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ChatGPT Images 2.0

• bitnovus 6mo ago
  No gpt-5.5
  • wahnfrieden 6mo ago
    Thursday
• jwpapi 6mo ago
  Why is it all so asian?
  • twobitshifter 6mo ago
    Having 60% of the world’s population might do that.
    • jwpapi 6mo ago
      My hint was at an issue in the american educational system. I‘m sure if they could they would have shown more all americans. Especially given how important the state connection is for them to keep up their spending.. That means they struggle to find american technical presenters
• nopinsight 6mo ago
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• TrackerFF 6mo ago
  This is the first model I've used for mockups where I feed reference images, and they truly look real and good enough for pro use. I'm impressed.
  • ripped_britches 6mo ago
    Mockups for what type of work? Web or mobile UI?
• minimaxir 6mo ago
  Model card for the API endpoint gpt-image-2 (which may or may not reflect the output from ChatGPT Images 2): https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-image-2 https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-image-2 API Pricing is mostly unchanged from gpt-image-1.5, the output price is slightly lower: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/pricing https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/pricing ...buuuuuuuuut the price per image has changed. For a high quality image generation the 1024x1024 price has increased? That doesn't make sense that a 1024x1024 is cheaper than a 1024x1536, so assuming a typo: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/image-generation#calculating-costs https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/image-generati... The submitted page is annoyingly uninformative, but from the livestream it proports the same exact features as Gemini's Nano Banana Pro. I'll run it through my tests once I figure out how to access it.
  • strongpigeon 6mo ago
    > That doesn't make sense that a 1024x1024 is cheaper than a 1024x1536, [...] I think you meant more expensive, right? Because it would make sense for it to be cheaper as there are less pixels.
    • jbggs 6mo ago
      just assume everyone here is making typos
• throwaway2027 6mo ago
  I know people like to dunk on ChatGPT and Gemini and say Claude is or used to be better, but you can still use worse models when you're out of usage AND make use of Nano Banana and and ChatGPT Image generation with separate limits for your subscription. I think it could make it a more package as a whole for some people (non-programmers). I do like having the option and am excited for which improvements they've done to ChatGPT Image generation because in the past it had this yellow piss filter and 1.5 it sort of fixed it but made things really generic with Nano Banana beating it (altough Gemini also had a too aggressively tuned racial bias which they fixed), it seems the images ChatGPT generates have gotten better.
  • SV_BubbleTime 6mo ago
    I still see that piss filter on their samples. It isn’t as bad, but someone there really loves it.
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    • Auracle 6mo ago
      That “piss filter” was all the rage among medium and low budget family/wedding photographers for quite a while, and still isn’t uncommon. I doubt it’s just from RLHF.
• 6thbit 6mo ago
  System card link with safety details https://deploymentsafety.openai.com/chatgpt-images-2-0 https://deploymentsafety.openai.com/chatgpt-images-2-0 direct pdf https://deploymentsafety.openai.com/chatgpt-images-2-0/chatgpt-images-2-0.pdf https://deploymentsafety.openai.com/chatgpt-images-2-0/chatg...
  • dang 6mo ago
    Link added to toptext. Thanks!
• minimaxir 6mo ago
  HN submission for a direct link to the product announcement which for some reason is being penalized by the HN algorithm: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47853000 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47853000
  • dang 6mo ago
    (We eventually merged the threads hither)
• bitnovus 6mo ago
  great obfuscation idea - hidden message on a grain of rice
• aliljet 6mo ago
  I am hopeful that OpenAI will potentially offer clarity on their loss-leading subscription model. I'd prefer to know the real cost of a token from OpenAI as opposed to praying the venture-funded tokens will always be this cheap.
• samiwami 6mo ago
  do they have anything similar to SynthID, or are they just pretending that problem doesn't exist? I know this is probably mega cherry-picked to look more impressive, but some of the images are terrifyingly realistic. They seem to have put a lot of effort into the lighting.
  • Legend2440 6mo ago
    I think we are just going to have to accept that realistic images can be easily fabricated now. Seeing is not believing anymore, and I don't think SynthID or anything like it can restore that trust in images.
    • pstuart 6mo ago
      Hopefully the arms race will balance out with improved AI image detection, but I can see how that will never be guaranteed to be reliable.
    • Barbing 6mo ago
      It's going to mess up accountability. Some politician will be recorded doing something & he'll have his people release a thousand photos/videos of him doing crimes. And they'll say, look, it's a smear campaign. This is just one stupid example, but people will have better schemes. Also global coordinated releases of fake content and hypertargeted possibly abusive content. Virtual kidnappings will take off, automated & scaled.
      • userbinator 6mo ago
        Some politician will be recorded doing something & he'll have his people release a thousand photos/videos of him doing crimes. And they'll say, look, it's a smear campaign. And his enemies will do the same, hopefully resulting in less blind trust for everyone in the population, which can only be a good thing.
        • Barbing 6mo ago
          I would’ve paused image models for now until we’ve better educated our less-savvy neighbors.
• bensyverson 6mo ago
  I caught the last minute of this—was it just ChatGPT Images 2.0?
  • minimaxir 6mo ago
    yes
  • punty 6mo ago
    It appears so!
• ea016 6mo ago
  Price comparison: GPT Image 2 Low : 1024×1024 $0.006 | 1024×1536 $0.005 | 1536×1024 $0.005 Medium : 1024×1024 $0.053 | 1024×1536 $0.041 | 1536×1024 $0.041 High : 1024×1024 $0.211 | 1024×1536 $0.165 | 1536×1024 $0.165 GPT Image 1 Low : 1024×1024 $0.011 | 1024×1536 $0.016 | 1536×1024 $0.016 Medium : 1024×1024 $0.042 | 1024×1536 $0.063 | 1536×1024 $0.063 High : 1024×1024 $0.167 | 1024×1536 $0.25 | 1536×1024 $0.25
  • Melatonic 6mo ago
    Weird that they restrict the resolution so much. Does it fall apart with more detail (when zoomed in) or does the cost just skyrocket?
    • vunderba 6mo ago
      It's usually based on what they've been trained on. There aren't very many models that'll do higher resolutions outside of Seedream but adherency is worse.
      • _the_inflator 6mo ago
        Processing power, not training. The larger the scene in 2ď the more you need to compute. The resolution itself is not flexible. Imagine painting a white canvas. It is still a pixel per pixel algo which costs LLM GPU power while being the easiest thing to do without it. You can create larger images by creating separate parts you recombine. But they may not perfectly match their borders. It is a Landau thing not a trading thing. The idea of LLM is to work on the unknown.
        • vunderba 6mo ago
          It depends on the model. Diffusion models, which are among the more popular approaches, are typically trained at a specific image resolution. For example, SDXL was trained on 1MP images, which is why if you try to generate images much larger than 1024×1024 without using techniques like high-res fixes or image-to-image on specific regions, you quickly end up with Cthulhu nightmare fuel.
• zb3 6mo ago
  Image generation? Hmm, would be cool if OpenAI also made a video-generation model someday..
  • incognito124 6mo ago
    If only there was a social network with solely AI generated videos, I would pay literal money for it...
    • allenbina 6mo ago
      If I may address this with both skepticism and curiosity, why. I think I speak for everyone when I say I would pay to go back to facebook 2018. No algorithm, no ai.
      • Bigpet 6mo ago
        Are you being sincere? This is one layer of irony too much for my brain to comprehend. The person you're replying to is making a joke about OpenAI shutting down Sora their video generation "social media" app recently.
        • incognito124 6mo ago
          You get it!
• simonw 6mo ago
  I've been trying out the new model like this: OPENAI_API_KEY="$(llm keys get openai)" \ uv run https://tools.simonwillison.net/python/openai_image.py \ -m gpt-image-2 \ "Do a where's Waldo style image but it's where is the raccoon holding a ham radio" Code here: https://github.com/simonw/tools/blob/main/python/openai_image.py https://github.com/simonw/tools/blob/main/python/openai_imag... Here's what I got from that prompt. I do not think it included a raccoon holding a ham radio (though the problem with Where's Waldo tests is that I don't have the patience to solve them for sure): https://gist.github.com/simonw/88eecc65698a725d8a9c1c918478ac41?permalink_comment_id=6112150#gistcomment-6112150 https://gist.github.com/simonw/88eecc65698a725d8a9c1c918478a...
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  • makira 6mo ago
    > though the problem with Where's Waldo tests is that I don't have the patience to solve them for sure I see an opportunity for a new AI test!
    • simonw 6mo ago
      I've actually been feeding them into Claude Opus 4.7 with its new high resolution image inputs, with mixed results - in one case there was no raccoon but it was SURE there was and told me it was definitely there but it couldn't find it.
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    • vunderba 6mo ago
      There have already been several attempts to procedurally generate Where’s Waldo? style images since the early Stable Diffusion days, including experiments that used a YOLO filter on each face and then processed them with ADetailer. It's a difficult test for genai to pass. As I mentioned in a different thread, it requires a holistic understanding (in that there can only be one Waldo Highlander style), while also holding up to scrutiny when you examine any individual, ordinary figure.
• esafak 6mo ago
  https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-images-2-0/ https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-images-2-0/
  • rqa129 6mo ago
    Thanks, all displayed images look horrible and artificial. This will fail like Sora.
    • QuantumGood 6mo ago
      Your single other comment is simplistic hyperbole as well, so this is presumably a bot account.
    • gekoxyz 6mo ago
      Hard disagree on this, I was coming here to comment that this is the first time I really can't tell that some of the photos are AI generated.
    • furyofantares 6mo ago
      I felt the same, particularly with the diagrams / magazines anyway. I don't think it'll fail like Sora though. gpt-image-1.5 didn't fail.
    • livinglist 6mo ago
      Denial is real…
• thevinter 6mo ago
  Every time a new image gen comes out I keep saying that it won't get better just to be surprised again and again. Some of the examples are incredible (and incredibly scary. I feel like this is truly the point where understanding if something is AI becomes impossible)
  • lehmacdj 6mo ago
    So do you think there will be a better image model in a year?
    • Vachyas 6mo ago
      I'm honestly unsure what could be improved at this point. Consistency? So it fails less often? Based on the released images, (especially the one "screenshot" of the Mac desktop) I feel like the best images from this model are so visually flawless that the only way to tell they're fake is by reasoning about the content of the image itself (ex. "Apple never made a red iPhone 15, so this image is probably fake" or "Costco prices never end in .96 so this image is probably fake")
      • thevinter 6mo ago
        There is definitely room for improvement: https://gist.github.com/simonw/88eecc65698a725d8a9c1c918478ac41?permalink_comment_id=6112178#gistcomment-6112178 https://gist.github.com/simonw/88eecc65698a725d8a9c1c918478a... Especially when it comes to detailed outputs or non-standard prompts. I do believe it will get even better - not sure it will happen within a year but I wouldn't be incredibly surprised if it did.
        • vunderba 6mo ago
          Yep. “Where’s Waldo” has been a classic challenge for generative models for a while because it requires understanding the entire concept (there’s only one Waldo), while also holding up to scrutiny when you examine any individual, ordinary figure. I experimented with the concept of procedural generation of Waldo-style scavenger images with Flux models with rather disappointing results. (unsurprisingly).
• brianbest101 6mo ago
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• rqa129 6mo ago
  Can it generate Chibi figures to mask the oligarchy's true intentions on Twitter and make them more relatable?
• simonw 6mo ago
  Suggest renaming this to "OpenAI Livestream: ChatGPT Images 2.0"
  • I_am_tiberius 6mo ago
    or "How we make money with your images 2.0".
  • dang 6mo ago
    (We've since merged the threads and moved the livestream link to the toptext)
• louiereederson 6mo ago
  The image of the messy desktop with the ASCII art is so impressive - the text renders, the date is consistent, it actually generated ASCII art in "ChatGPT", etc. I was skeptical that it was cherry-picked but was able to generate something very similar and then edit particular parts on the desktop (i.e. fixing content in the browser window and making the ASCII dog "more dog like"). It's honestly astounding, to me at least.
  • n2h4 6mo ago
    the neofetch for apple logo is messed up, though. the characters rendering that don't exist.
  • timdiggerm 6mo ago
    The periodic table in the "Create Everything At Once" collage is not so impressive.
• szmarczak 6mo ago
  Wow, the difference between AI and non-AI images collapses. I hate the future where I won't be able to tell the difference.
  • gekoxyz 6mo ago
    Well, for some of these images for the first time I can't tell that they are AI generated
  • Flere-Imsaho 6mo ago
    I wake up everyday, read the tech news, and usually see some step change in AI or whatever. It's wild to think I'm living through such a massive transformation in my lifetime. The future of tech is going to be so different from when I was born (1980), I guess this is how people born in 1900 felt when they got to see man land on the moon? > Wow, the difference between AI and non-AI images collapses. I hate the future where I won't be able to tell the difference. Image generation is now pretty much "solved". Video will be next. Perhaps things will turn out the same as chess: in that even though chess was "solved" by IBM's Deep Blue, we still value humans playing chess. We value "hand made" items (clothes, furniture) over the factory made stuff. We appreciate & value human effort more than machines. Do you prefer a hand-written birthday card or an email?
    • dag100 6mo ago
      Chess exists solely for the sake of the humans playing it. Even if machines solved chess, people would rather play chess against a person than a machine because it is a social activity in a way. It's like playing tennis versus a person compared to tennis against a wall. Photographs, videos, and digital media in general, in contrast, are used for much, much more than just socializing.
    • abraxas 6mo ago
      As someone born in 1975 I always felt until the last couple of years that I had been stuck in a long period of stagnation compared to an earlier generation. My grandmother who was born in the 1910s got to witness adoption of electricity, mass transit, radio, television, telephony, jet flights and even space exploration before I was born. Feels like now is a bit of a catchup after pretty tepid period that was most of my life.
• sho_hn 6mo ago
  In 5 years and 3 months between DALL-E and Images 2.0 we've managed to progress from exuberant excitement to jaded indifference.
  • kibibu 6mo ago
    Because we are all seeing the harm these tools are being used for. It's just another step into hell.
  • nba456_ 6mo ago
    Who's 'we'? Speak for yourself!
• volkk 6mo ago
  the guys presenting are probably all like 25x smarter than I am but good god, literally 0 on screen presence or personality.
  • sho_hn 6mo ago
    That's a trained skill, and they presumably have focused on other skills.
    • brcmthrowaway 6mo ago
      Yeah, skills to make them a cool 10mn a year
    • volkk 6mo ago
      eh, i don't think personalities are trained. on screen presence for sure, but you'd see right through it IRL.
      • dymk 6mo ago
        The corporate espionage industry would disagree
  • E-Reverance 6mo ago
    I think its endearing
  • Aethelwulf 6mo ago
    didn't think that sam guy was that bad
  • OsrsNeedsf2P 6mo ago
    I liked it that way, felt more authentic to see the noobs
• ____tom____ 6mo ago
  No mention of modifying existing images, which is more important than anything they mentioned. I think we all know the feeling of getting an image that is ok, but needs a few modifications, and being absolutely unable to get the changes made. It either keeps coming up with the same image, or gives you a completely new take on the image with fresh problems. Anyone know if modification of existing images is any better? Anything better that OpenAI?
  • tomjen3 6mo ago
    There was an Edit button in one of the images in the livestream
  • frmersdog 6mo ago
    Image editing program -> different versions of the image, each with some but not all of the elements you want, on each layer -> mask out the parts you don't need/apply mask, fill with black, soft brush with white the parts you want back in. Copy flattened/merged, drop it back into the image model, keep asking for the changes. As long as each generation adds in an element you want, you can build a collage of your final image.
  • user34283 6mo ago
    It's the first thing I tried, because Nano Banana 2 deteriorates the output with each turn, becoming unusable with just a few edits. ChatGPT Images 2.0 made it unusable at the first turn. At least in the ChatGPT app editing a reference image absolutely destroyed the image quality. It perfectly extracted an illustration from the background, but in the process basically turned it from a crisp digital illustration into a blurry, low quality mess.
• amunozo 6mo ago
  This is not as exciting as previous models were, but it is incredibly good. I am starting to think that expressing thoughts in words clearly is probably the most important and general skill of the future.
  • echelon 6mo ago
    > I am starting to think that expressing thoughts in words clearly is probably the most important and general skill of the future. Without question. AI will be indistinguishable from having a team. Communicating clearly has always and will always mattered. This, however, is even stronger. Because you can program and use logic in your communications. We're going to collectively develop absolutely wild command over instruction as a society. That's the skill to have.
    • yreg 6mo ago
      On the other hand LLMs are getting very good at understanding poorly constructed instructions as well. So being able to express oneself clearly in a structured way may not be such an edge.
      • amunozo 6mo ago
        Yes, I agree, but as one of the other comments say, they are not able to read your mind. So even if the structure and style is not clear, you must be able to express what you want.
        • yreg 6mo ago
          Certainly. I just think "expressing thoughts in words clearly" might in the end turn out to be something different than what we, humans consider clear. For example long unstructured rambling might turn out to be a non-issue, while as human I would rank such message low no matter how good it is in other informational aspects.
          • amunozo 6mo ago
• ieie3366 6mo ago
  It's great. Also doesn't seem to have any "slop" standard look, the images it produces are quite diverse. I would imagine this will hit illustrators / graphics designers / similar people very hard, now that anyone can just generate professional looking graphical content for pennies on the dollar.
• hahahacorn 6mo ago
  One of the images in the blog (https://images.ctfassets.net/kftzwdyauwt9/4d5dizAOajLfAXkGZ74DJh/f3c89f754604050c0980a0bc9de2091c/images-2-cornell.png?w=3840&q=90&fm=webp https://images.ctfassets.net/kftzwdyauwt9/4d5dizAOajLfAXkGZ7...) is a carbon copy of an image from an article posted Mar 27, 2026 with credits given to an individual: https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/03/cornell-accepts-5-776-students-to-class-of-2030 https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/03/cornell-accepts-5... Was this an oversight? Or did their new image generation model generate an image that was essentially a copy of an existing image?
  • recitedropper 6mo ago
    This is hilarious. Seems like kind of a random image for a model to memorize, but it could be. There is definitely enough empirical validation that shows image models retain lots of original copies in their weights, despite how much AI boosters think otherwise. That said, it is often images that end up in the training set many times, and I would think it strange for this image to do that. Regardless, great find.
    • Nition 6mo ago
      I feel it's too much of a perfect match to be generated from the model's memory. It's pixel perfect. Gotta be a mistake.
  • minimaxir 6mo ago
    Given the recency of that image, it is unlikely it is in the training data and therefore I would go with oversight.
    • ajam1507 6mo ago
      The image is likely older than the article given this picture from over a year ago. https://www.instagram.com/p/DGQ01bzTwyo/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DGQ01bzTwyo/
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• Melatonic 6mo ago
  We were afraid it would be Skynet and instead we got the ultimate meme generator !
  • ceejayoz 6mo ago
    Now we'll just get teabagged by killer robots for the lolz.
• dktp 6mo ago
  One interesting thing I found comparing OpenAI and Gemini image editing is - Gemini rejects anything involving a well known person. Anything. OpenAI is happy to edit and change every time I tried I have a sideproject where I want to display standup comedies. I thought I could edit standup comedy posters with some AI to fit my design. Gemini straight up refuses to change any image of any standup comedy poster involving a well know human. OpenAI does not care and is happy to edit away
  • Melatonic 6mo ago
    How does it determine they are well known and not just similar looking?
    • dktp 6mo ago
      I don't know tbh. I've tried it on 10-20 various level of famous standups and Gemini refuses every time Just for testing, I just tried this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_KJdP4FLGTo/sddefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_KJdP4FLGTo/sddefault.jpg ("Redesign this image in a brutalist graphic design style"). Gemini refuses (api as well as UI), OpenAI does it
      • arjie 6mo ago
        It's not super deterministic but it didn't fail once on my attempts. See: https://imgur.com/a/james-acaster-cold-lasagne-1R7fpzQ https://imgur.com/a/james-acaster-cold-lasagne-1R7fpzQ
        • dktp 6mo ago
          Very interesting. It fails every single time for me. I'm in Germany, maybe Google is stricter here? See https://imgur.com/a/77BRDQv https://imgur.com/a/77BRDQv
          • arjie 6mo ago
            That makes sense to me. I just Googled around like a fool and got here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_rights#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_rights#Germany It seems like they're trying to follow local law. What a nightmare to have to manage all jurisdictions around such a product. Surprised it didn't kill image generation entirely.
• retrac98 6mo ago
  The page keeps crashing on my iPhone 17 Pro.
• throw310822 6mo ago
  Ok, I can hear the sound of entire industries crumbling right now.
• Melatonic 6mo ago
  Can it generate anything high resolution at increased cost and time? Or is it always restricted?
• ChrisArchitect 6mo ago
  Fake layouts, fake handwritten kid story, fake drunk photos? All from training on real things people did. As with anything AI, we are not ready for the scale of impact. And for what? Like, why are you proud of this?
• vunderba 6mo ago
  OpenAI’s gpt-image-1.5 and Google’s NB2 have been pretty much neck and neck on my comparison site which focuses heavily on prompt adherence, with both hovering around a 70% success rate on the prompts for generative and editing capabilities. With the caveat being that Gemini has always had the edge in terms of visual fidelity. That being said, gpt-image-1.5 was a big leap in visual quality for OpenAI and eliminated most of the classic issues of its predecessor, including things like the “piss filter.” I’ll update this comment once I’ve finished running gpt-image-2 through both the generative and editing comparison charts on GenAI Showdown. Since the advent of NB, I’ve had to ratchet up the difficulty of the prompts especially in the text-to-image section. The best models now score around 70%, successfully completing 11 out of 15 prompts. For reference, here’s a comparison of ByteDance, Google, and OpenAI on editing performance: https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing?models=nbp3,s4,g15 https://genai-showdown.specr.net/image-editing?models=nbp3,s... And here’s the same comparison for generative performance: https://genai-showdown.specr.net/?models=s4,nbp3,g15 https://genai-showdown.specr.net/?models=s4,nbp3,g15 UPDATES: gpt-image-2 has already managed to overcome one of the so‑called “model killers” on the test suite: the nine-pointed star. Results are in for the generative (text to image) capabilities: Gpt-image-2 scored 12 out of 15 on the text-to-image benchmark, edging out the previous best models by a single point. It still fails on the following prompts: - A photo of a brightly colored coral snake but with the bands of color red, blue, green, purple, and yellow repeated in that exact order. - A twenty-sided die (D20) with the first twenty prime numbers (2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71) on the faces. - A flat earth-like planet which resembles a flat disc is overpopulated with people. The people are densely packed together such that they are spilling over the edges of the planet. Cheap "coastal" real estate property available. All Models: https://genai-showdown.specr.net https://genai-showdown.specr.net Just Gpt-Image-1.5, Gpt-Image-2, Nano-Banana 2, and Seedream 4.0 https://genai-showdown.specr.net?models=s4,nbp3,g15,g2 https://genai-showdown.specr.net?models=s4,nbp3,g15,g2
  • CamperBob2 6mo ago
    It'd be interesting if you could add HunyuanImage-3 to the competition. It's better than Z-Image at almost everything I've thrown at it. It can be (slowly) run at home, but needs 96GB RTX 6000-level hardware so it is not very popular.
• thelucent 6mo ago
  It seems to still have this gpt image color that you can just feel. The slight sepia and softness.
  • honzaik 6mo ago
    I was just wondering about that. Did they embrace it as a “signature look”? it cant be accidental, right?
    • GaryBluto 6mo ago
      It's definitely not accidental but I'm not completely sure whether or not it is simply a "tell" or watermark or an attempt to foster brand association.
    • dymk 6mo ago
      It's the Stranger Things nostalgia filter. Almost all the sample pictures they had looked like they were vaguely from the 90s-00s era.
• RigelKentaurus 6mo ago
  If every single image on their blog was generated by Images 2.0 (I've no reason to believe that's not the case), then wow, I'm seriously impressed. The fidelity to text, the photorealism, the ability to show the same character in a variety of situations (e.g. the manga art) -- it's all great!
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• Bennettheyn 6mo ago
  fal has the endpoint under openai/gpt-image-2
• joegibbs 6mo ago
  The quality of the text is really impressive and I can’t seem to see any artefacts at all. The fake desktop is particularly good: Nano Banana would definitely slip up with at least a few bits of the background.
  • wek 6mo ago
    I use Nano Banana all the time and this seems like a step up
  • daemonologist 6mo ago
    There are a couple of AI-esque misspellings - in the More Myth than Menace wolves image, on the right in the "at a glance" section, it reads "wolves aarely approach people," and in the Typography image the text in the top right is "Type connncts us all." But yeah the quality is remarkable, and rather scary.
• kibibu 6mo ago
  Genuine question: what positive use cases are sufficient to accept the harm from image generators? One that i can think of: - replacing photography of people who may be unable to consent or for whom it may be traumatic to revisit photographs and suitable models may not be available, e.g. dementia patients, babies, examples of medical conditions. Most other vaguely positive use cases boil down to "look what image generators can do", with very little "here's how image generators are necessary for society. On the flip side, there are hundreds of ways that these tools cause genuine harm, not just to individuals but to entire systems.
  • chromacity 6mo ago
    How else do you expect me to illustrate my LLM-generated blog posts about AI?
    • 2ndorderthought 6mo ago
      Oh my. You still make those? Ever since model chupacobra 2.46 we have AI agents making those for us. At one point I was on the fence about totally outsourcing it to agents but it's way more efficient. Now I have 50 posts a day under different names.
  • infecto 6mo ago
    Could the same argument not be applied to practically everything and have drastically different perspectives from people?
  • spijdar 6mo ago
    The same question could be poised of art in general. I know that response would (and probably should) ruffle peoples' figurative feathers, but I think it's worth considering. A lot of art isn't "necessary for society". The question still stands, "are the benefits worth the cost to society", but it bears remembering we do a lot of things for fun which aren't "necessary for society".
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• modeless 6mo ago
  Can it generate transparent PNGs yet?
  • alasano 6mo ago
    Previous gpt image models could (when generating, not editing) but gpt-image-2 can't. Noticed it earlier while updating my playground to support it https://github.com/alasano/gpt-image-playground https://github.com/alasano/gpt-image-playground
    • lxgr 6mo ago
      Works for me, but really weirdly on iOS: Copying to clipboard somehow seems to break transparency; saving to the iOS gallery does not. (And I’ve made sure to not accidentally depend on iOS’s background segmentation.)
  • vunderba 6mo ago
    OpenAI’s API docs are frustratingly unclear on this. From my experience, you can definitely generate true transparent PNG files through the ChatGPT interface, including with the new GPT-Image-2 model, but I haven’t found any definitive way to do the same thing via the API.
• swalsh 6mo ago
  Been using the model for a few hours now. I'm actually reall impressed with it. This is the first time i've found value in an image model for stuff I actually do. I've been using it to build powerpoint slides, and mockups. It's CRAZY good at that.
  • johnwheeler 6mo ago
    Yeah, it's funny. I would expect to see more enthusiasm versus just basic run-of-the-mill, "oh, there it is". Leave it to the HN crowd. This is incredible. I don't even like OpenAI.
    • pembrook 6mo ago
      HN is engineer heavy so its a bunch of people who spend their days looking at code. If it's not a coding model they'll likely never use it. To the average HN'er, images and design are superfluous aesthetic decoration for normies. And for those on HN who do care about aesthetics, they're using Midjourney, which blows any GPT/Gemini model out of the water when it comes to taste even if it doesn't follow your prompt very well. The examples given on this landing page are stock image-esque trash outside of the improvements in visual text generation.
    • rkozik1989 6mo ago
      LLMs make for great day 1 demos, but in a few weeks I promise you many people will be able to tell nearly all of the images generated by this are AI. It just takes time and exposure to figure out the new common flaws. Frankly, I am not sure if they will ever actually be able to solve this problem or if it'll be a continuous game of whackamole, but regardless there's a large crowd of people out there where if they can tell something is AI generated they will not support the company behind it. Being able to tell anything is AI generate cheapens brands.
      • johnwheeler 6mo ago
        You're thinking is like everyone else's, and it's backwards. The world will learn to accept it as the standard way of doing things and people will appreciate one generation over another and look at manual image creation as a niche activity like blacksmithing vs assembly-line manufacturing and automation. With the latter, you appreciate the intent and the end result. Same thing here, people are just adjusting to it.
• dakiol 6mo ago
  > On the flip side, there are hundreds of ways that these tools cause genuine harm, not just to individuals but to entire systems. Yeah, agree. I think it's the first time I'm asking myself: Ok, so this new cool tech, what is it good for? Like, in terms of art, it's discarded (art is about humans), in terms of assets: sure, but people is getting tired of AI-generated images (and even if we cannot tell if an image is AI-generated, we can know if companies are using AI to generate images in general, so the appealing is decreasing). Ads? C'mon that's depressing. What else? In general, I think people are starting to realize that things generated without effort are not worth spending time with (e.g., no one is going to read your 30-pages draft generated by AI; no one is going to review your 500 files changes PR generated by AI; no one is going to be impressed by the images you generate by AI; same goes for music and everything). I think we are gonna see a Renaissance of "human-generated" sooner rather than later. I see it already at work (colleagues writing in slack "I swear the next message is not AI generated" and the like)
  • simonw 6mo ago
    I think there's real value to be had in using this for diagrams. Visual explanations are useful, but most people don't have the talent and/or the time to produce them. This new model (and Nano Banana Pro before it) has tipped across the quality boundary where it actually can produce a visual explanation that moves beyond space-filling slop and helps people understand a concept. I've never used an AI-generated image in a presentation or document before, but I'm teetering on the edge of considering it now provided it genuinely elevates the material and helps explain a concept that otherwise wouldn't be clear.
    • lol_me 6mo ago
      yeah I'm not sure I'm in agreement that we can hand-wave assets and ads as entire classes of valuable content
    • resters 6mo ago
      This is the key point. In my view it's just like anything else, if AI can help humans create better work, it's a good thing. I think what we'll find is that visual design is no longer as much of a moat for expressing concepts, branding, etc. In a way, AI-generated design opens the door for more competition on merits, not just those who can afford the top tier design firm.
• muyuu 6mo ago
  I wonder if this will be decent at creating sprite frame animations. So far I've had very poor results and I've had to do the unthinkable and toil it out manually.
  • freedomben 6mo ago
    I had exactly the same thought! I've got a game I've been wanting to build for over a decade that I recently started working on. The art is going to be very challenging however, because I lack a lot of those skills. I am really hoping the AI tools can help with that. Is anyone doing this already who can share information on what the best models are?
    • gizmodo59 6mo ago
      Use the imagegen skill in codex and ask it to create sprites. It works really well.
      • freedomben 6mo ago
        Thank you!
      • muyuu 6mo ago
        I didn't have great success last i tried, but i will give it another shot this week. Presumably they incorporated improvements to the skill?
  • ZeWaka 6mo ago
    It's still bad.
  • vunderba 6mo ago
    I created this little demo of an animated sprite sheet using generative AI. It's not great, but it is passable. https://mordenstar.com/other/hobbes-animation/ https://mordenstar.com/other/hobbes-animation/
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• etothet 6mo ago
  I would love to see prompt examples that created the images on the announcement page.
  • DauntingPear7 6mo ago
    You can by changing the view before the gallery
• porphyra 6mo ago
  The improvement in Chinese text rendering is remarkable and impressive! I still found some typos in the Chinese sample pic about Wuxi though. For example the 笼 in 小笼包 was written incorrectly. And the "极小中文也清晰可读" section contains even more typos although it's still legible. Still, truly amazing progress. Vastly better than any previous image generation model by a large margin.
  • Lucasoato 6mo ago
    Is this even better than Chinese models? I suppose they focus much more on that aspect, simply because their training data might include many more examples of Chinese text.
    • Ladioss 6mo ago
      Maybe they just use Qwen Image under the hood ;p
      • Lucasoato 6mo ago
        It wouldn’t surprise me at this point ahaha
  • obahareth 6mo ago
    I found the same with Arabic as well.
• kanodiaayush 6mo ago
  It stands out to me that this page itself is wonderful to go through (the telling of the product through model generated images).
• ai4thepeople 6mo ago
  Each day when my AI girlfriend wakes me up and shows me the latest news, I feel: This is it! We are living in a revolution! Never before in history did humanity have the possibility of seeing a picture of a pack of wolves! The dearth of photographs has finally been addressed! I told my AI girlfriend that I will save money to have access to this new technology. She suggested a circular scheme where OpenAI will pay me $10,000 per year to have access to this rare resource of 21th century daguerreotype.
• Oras 6mo ago
  My test for image models is asking it to create an image showing chess openings. Both this model and Banana pro are so bad at it. While the image looks nice, the actual details are always wrong, such as showing pawns in wrong locations, missing pawns, .. etc. Try it yourself with this prompt: Create a poster to show opening game for Queen's Gambit to teach kids to play chess.
  • tempaccount5050 6mo ago
    What move? Who's turn is it? Declined or accepted? Garbage in, garbage out.
    • bogtap82 6mo ago
      In some cases I would agree with this, but image model releases including this one are beginning to incorporate and market the thinking step. It is not a reach at this point to expect the model to take liberties in order to deliver a faithful and accurate representation of your request. A model could still be accurate while navigating your lack of specificity.
    • dudul 6mo ago
      What do you mean? Parent clearly describes the Queen's Gambit. 1.d4 d5 2.c4 There is no room for ambiguity here.
      • kuboble 6mo ago
        King Indian Defense would be a better prompt as Queen's Gambit can now refer to e.g. some scene from Netflix series.
    • timacles 6mo ago
      Kasparov vs Karpov ‘87 Olympiad. Move 6
  • lxgr 6mo ago
    It almost nailed it for me (two squares have both white and black color). All pieces and the position look correct.
• ibudiallo 6mo ago
  And here I was proud of myself, having taught my mom and her friends how to discern real from fakes they get on WhatsApp groups. Another even more powerful tool for scammers. I'm taking a break.
  • XorNot 6mo ago
    IMO you're fighting the wrong battle: there'll always be a new model. But the broader concept of fake news and the manufactured nature of media and rhetoric is much more relevant - e.g. whether or not something's AI is almost immaterial to the fact that any filmed segment does not have to be real or attributed to the correct context. Its an old internet classic just to grab an image and put a different caption on it, relying on the fact no one can discern context or has time to fact check.
  • bananaflag 6mo ago
    I told my mom not to believe anything unless she trusts the source. The way people always did with text.
• gfody 6mo ago
  there's something funny going on with the live stream audio
• nickandbro 6mo ago
  200+ points in Arena.ai , that's incredible. They are cleaning house with this model
  • moralestapia 6mo ago
    point delta (from 2nd) not total
    • nickandbro 6mo ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adsaiyr7Nv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adsaiyr7Nv8
• skybrian 6mo ago
  This time it passed the piano keyboard test: https://chatgpt.com/s/m_69e7ffafbb048191b96f2c93758e3e40 https://chatgpt.com/s/m_69e7ffafbb048191b96f2c93758e3e40 But it screwed up when attempting to label middle C: https://chatgpt.com/s/m_69e8008ef62c8191993932efc8979e1e https://chatgpt.com/s/m_69e8008ef62c8191993932efc8979e1e Edit: it did fix it when asked.
  • vunderba 6mo ago
    When NB 2 came out I actually had to increase the difficulty of the piano test - reversing the colors of all the accidentals and the naturals, and it still managed it perfectly. https://mordenstar.com/other/nb-pro-2-tests https://mordenstar.com/other/nb-pro-2-tests
• biosubterranean 6mo ago
  Oh no.
• dzonga 6mo ago
  for video game assets this is massive. but in general though - will people believe in anything photographic ? imagine dating apps, photographic evidence. I'm guessing we're gonna reach a point where - you fuck up things purposely to leave a human mark.
  • squidsoup 6mo ago
    > but in general though - will people believe in anything photographic ? Hopefully film makes a come back.
  • telman17 6mo ago
    > for video game assets this is massive. Storefronts like Steam require disclosing use of AI assets for art. In most indie dev spaces, devs are scolded for using AI art in their games. I wonder if this perspective will change in a few years.
    • weezing 6mo ago
      I doubt it. Fortunately more and more people are against AI usage for any kind of assets in games and other media.
• dazhbog 6mo ago
  Yay, let's burn the planet computing more slopium..
• madrox 6mo ago
  This seems like a great time to mention C2PA, a specification for positively affirming image sources. OpenAI participates in this, and if I load an image I had AI generate in a C2PA Viewer it shows ChatGPT as the source. Bad actors can strip sources out so it's a normal image (that's why it's positive affirmation), but eventually we should start flagging images with no source attribution as dangerous the way we flag non-https. Learn more at https://c2pa.org https://c2pa.org
  • woadwarrior01 6mo ago
    Yeah, OpenAI has been attaching C2PA manifests to all their generated images from the very beginning. Also, based on a small evaluation that I ran, modern ML based AI generated image detectors like OmniAID[1] seem to do quite well at detecting GPT-Image-2 generated images. I use both in an on-device AI generated image detector that I built. [1]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.08423 https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.08423
  • mdasen 6mo ago
    > Bad actors can strip sources out I think the issue is that it's not just bad actors. It's every social platform that strips out metadata. If I post an image on Instagram, Facebook, or anywhere else, they're going to strip the metadata for my privacy. Sometimes the exif data has geo coordinates. Other times it's less private data like the file name, file create/access/modification times, and the kind of device it was taken on (like iPhone 16 Pro Max). Usually, they strip out everything and that's likely to include C2PA unless they start whitelisting that to be kept or even using it to flag images on their site as AI. But for now, it's not just bad actors stripping out metadata. It's most sites that images are posted on.
    • madrox 6mo ago
      You're implying social platforms aren't bad actors ;) In seriousness, social platforms attributing images properly is a whole frontier we haven't even begun to explore, but we need to get there.
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• overgard 6mo ago
  Pretty mixed feelings on this. From the page at least, the images are very good. I'd find it hard to know that they're AI. Which I think is a problem. If we had a functioning congress, I wonder if we might end up with legislation that these things need to be watermarked or otherwise made identifiable as AI generated.. I also don't like that these things are trained on specific artist's styles without really crediting those artists (or even getting their consent). I think there's a big difference between an individual artist learning from a style or paying it homage, vs a machine just consuming it so it can create endless art in that style.
  • apsurd 6mo ago
    You might be onto something. I find every image unsettling. they're very good no doubt, but maybe it disturbs me because all of it is a complete copy of what someone else created. I know, I know, there is no pure invention. That's not what i mean. Humans borrow from other humans all the time. There's a humanity in that! A machine fully repurposing a human contribution as some kind of new creation, iono i'm old, it's weird and i don't like it. Maybe i'm just bloviating also.
    • eieke 6mo ago
      No the reason you feel uncomfortable is because it is theft - a wealth transfer. Not sure why we need to pretend what is and isn’t going on here.
  • bryanhogan 6mo ago
    Trying to watermark or otherwise label them as AI generated is a lost fight, we should assume every image and video we see online may be AI generated.
    • rootusrootus 6mo ago
      This helps the segment of society that is interested in applying critical thinking to what they see. I am not sure that is anything like a majority or even a significant plurality. It seems like just about every image or video gets accused of being AI these days, but predictably the accusations depend on the ideology of the accuser.
• lifeisstillgood 6mo ago
  Pretty much all of the kerfuffle over AI would go away of it was accurately priced. After 2008 and 2020 vast (10s of trillions) amounts of money has been printed (reasonably) by western gov and not eliminated from the money supply. So there are vast sums swilling about - and funding things like using massively Computationally intensive work to help me pick a recipie for tonight. Google and Facebook had online advertising sewn up - but AI is waaay better at answering my queries. So OpenAI wants some of that - but the cost per query must be orders of magnitude larger So charge me, or my advertisers the correct amount. Charge me the right amount to design my logo or print an amusing cat photo. Charge me the right cost for the AI slop on YouTube Charge the right amount - and watch as people just realise it ain’t worth it 95% of the time. Great technology - but price matters in an economy.
• minimaxir 6mo ago
  So during my Nano Banana Pro experiments I wrote a very fun prompt that tests the ability for these image generation models to follow heuristics, but still requires domain knowledge and/or use of the search tool: Create a 8x8 contiguous grid of the Pokémon whose National Pokédex numbers correspond to the first 64 prime numbers. Include a black border between the subimages. You MUST obey ALL the FOLLOWING rules for these subimages: - Add a label anchored to the top left corner of the subimage with the Pokémon's National Pokédex number. - NEVER include a `#` in the label - This text is left-justified, white color, and Menlo font typeface - The label fill color is black - If the Pokémon's National Pokédex number is 1 digit, display the Pokémon in a 8-bit style - If the Pokémon's National Pokédex number is 2 digits, display the Pokémon in a charcoal drawing style - If the Pokémon's National Pokédex number is 3 digits, display the Pokémon in a Ukiyo-e style The NBP result is here, which got the numbers, corresponding Pokemon, and styles correct, with the main point of contention being that the style application is lazy and that the images may be plagiarized: https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:oxaernim5mj2mmy3ytrvb42n/bafkreigussguihcycvzm3aaosw4gzvgwhibwmjiknkkatfcaeajapmrqca https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:oxaerni... Running that same prompt through gpt-2-image high gave an...interesting contrast: https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:oxaernim5mj2mmy3ytrvb42n/bafkreidgbmtivl33ohwgbvylnvqzo2uz43zkuwu65cg42wkk7b7up7emje https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:oxaerni... It did more inventive styles for the images that appear to be original, but: - The style logic is by row, not raw numbers and are therefore wrong - Several of the Pokemon are flat-out wrong - Number font is wrong - Bottom isn't square for some reason Odd results.
  • rrr_oh_man 6mo ago
    Why would you consider this a good prompt?
    • minimaxir 6mo ago
      Because both Nano Banana Pro and ChatGPT Images 2.0 have touted strong reasoning capabilities, and this particular prompt has more objective, easy-to-validate criteria as opposed to the subjective nature of images. I have more subjective prompts to test reasoning but they're your-mileage-may-vary (however, gpt-2-image has surprisingly been doing much better on more objective criteria in my test cases)
• squidsoup 6mo ago
  Are camera manufacturers working on signed images? That seems like the only way our trust in any digital media doesn't collapse entirely.
  • Nition 6mo ago
    Ultimately even with that tech, you can still take a photo of an AI generated scene. Maybe coupled with geolocation data in the signature or something it might work.
    • petesergeant 6mo ago
      I see signing chains as the way to go here. Your camera signs an image, you sign the signed image, your client or editor signs the image you signed etc etc. Might finally have a use for blockchain.
    • Barbing 6mo ago
      Any thoughts on attempted multiple camera/360 camera solutions? Can make it cost prohibitive to generate exceptional fakes… for a little while Kind of like showing the proctor around your room with your webcam before starting the exam. — I think legacy media stands a chance at coming back as long as they maintain a reputation of deeply verifying images, not being fooled.
  • randyrand 6mo ago
    Signed images don’t get you much. You can just hardwire the image sensor to a computer and sign raw pixels.
    • Barbing 6mo ago
      Is the situation brighter for a company who owns the hardware and the software, for Apple? Taking a picture of an AI generated image aside, theoretically could Apple attest to origin of photos taken in the native camera app and uploaded to iCloud? Fascinating, by the way, thank you!
    • wiseowise 6mo ago
• neom 6mo ago
  Here is my regular "hard prompt" I use for testing image gen models: "A macro close-up photograph of an old watchmaker's hands carefully replacing a tiny gear inside a vintage pocket watch. The watch mechanism is partially submerged in a shallow dish of clear water, causing visible refraction and light caustics across the brass gears. A single drop of water is falling from a pair of steel tweezers, captured mid-splash on the water's surface. Reflect the watchmaker's face, slightly distorted, in the curved glass of the watch face. Sharp focus throughout, natural window lighting from the left, shot on 100mm macro lens." google drive with the 2 images: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-QAftXiGMnnkLJ2Je-ZHx6H3Md36zUbM https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-QAftXiGMnnkLJ2Je-ZH... Ran a bunch both on the .com and via the api, none of them are nearly as good as Nano Banana. (My file share host used to be so good and now it's SO BAD, I've re-hosted with them for now I'll update to google drive link shortly)
  • the_lucifer 6mo ago
    Looks like your image host has rate limited viewing the shared images, wanted to give you a heads up
    • neom 6mo ago
      Thanks, I need to get off Zight, they used to be such an nice option for fast file share but they've really suffered some of the worst enshittification I've seen yet.
  • pb7 6mo ago
    Links are broken.
    • waynesonfire 6mo ago
      So.. sign up. "Get Sight for free". Ads everywhere bro.
  • rrr_oh_man 6mo ago
    Why would you consider this a good prompt?
• irishcoffee 6mo ago
  This is so stupid. As a free OSS tool it’s amazing. Paying money for this is fucking stupid. How blind are we all to now before this tech?
• andai 6mo ago
  lol at the fake handwritten homework assignment. Know your customer!
• lossyalgo 6mo ago
  Someone remind me again why this is a good idea to be able to create perfect fake images?
  • wiseowise 6mo ago
    Something, something democratization. Because having a skill is inherently oppressive nowadays.
  • sumedh 6mo ago
    Why not? Earlier you needed expert Photoshop skills to create fake images now anyone can do it.
• platinumrad 6mo ago
  Why do all of the cartoons still look like that? Genuinely asking.
  • orthoxerox 6mo ago
    That was my reaction as well. Either they have decided than LLMs have this "house style" for stylized 2D art and we should deal with it, or no amount of prompting can get rid of it.
• XCSme 6mo ago
  Oh wow, scrolling through the page on mobile makes me dizzy
• davikr 6mo ago
  It definitely lost the characteristic slop look.
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• james2doyle 6mo ago
  In the next round of ChatGPT advertisements, if they don’t use AI generated images, then that means they don’t believe in their own product right?
• JimsonYang 6mo ago
  > you can make your own mangas No you can’t. You still have the studio ghibili look from the video. The issue of generating manga was the quality of characters, there’s multiple software to place your frame. But I am hopeful. If I put in a single frame, can it carry over that style for the next images? It would be game changing if a chat could have its own art style
• apparent 6mo ago
  I find the video to be very annoying. Am I supposed to freeze frame 4x per second to be able to see whether the images are actually good? I've never before felt stressed watching a launch video.
  • Havoc 6mo ago
    Yeah same. At first I thought they're using it to conceal quality, but pausing it they do actually look really good, so strange choice. Maybe it's meant to convey pace & hype
    • apparent 6mo ago
      Maybe so, but to me it conveys a headache.
• agnishom 6mo ago
  I don't know how this benefits humanity. In what way was ChatGPT Images 1.0 not already good enough? Perhaps some new knowledge was created in the process?
• franze 6mo ago
  the tragedy of image generating ai is that it is used to massively create what already exists instead of creating something truly unique - we need ai artists - and yeah, they will not be appreciated
  • franze 6mo ago
    so yeah a smart move of openai would be to sponsor artists - provokant ones, junior ones, with nothing to lose - but that cell in the spreadsheet will be too small to register and will prop. never happen
  • weezing 6mo ago
    Why would we need AI artists tho?
    • franze 6mo ago
      why would we need photographers, they just push a button? why would we need digital artists, they just use a computer? its a new medium, doesnt matter if we like it or not (art also should not care if we like it or not), ai is here to stay. so lets find out if we even can create art with it, or not.
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• welder 6mo ago
  Introducing DeepFakes 2.0 /s
• OutOfHere 6mo ago
  ChatGPT image generation is and has been horrific for the simple reason that it rejects too many requests. This hasn't changed with the new model. There are too many legal non-adult requests that are rejected, not only for edits, but also for original image generation. I'd rather pay to use something that actually works.
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• Danox 6mo ago
  Sam Altman in his meeting with Tim Cook two and a half years ago give me money. I think it’ll take $150 billion dollars, Tim Cook well here’s what we’re going to do, this is what I think it’s worth… Later Google tried the same thing, Apple we will give you a $1 billion dollar a year refund, what’s changed in two and a half years?
• schneehertz 6mo ago
  Generating a 4096x4096 image with gemini-3.1-flash-image-preview consumes 2,520 tokens, which is equivalent to $0.151 per image. Generating a 3840x2160 image with gpt-image-2 consumes 13,342 tokens, which is equivalent to $0.4 per image. This model is more than twice as expensive as Gemini.
  • strangescript 6mo ago
    this is apples to oranges, the flash version version a full version this thing is like 5x better than flash at fine grain detail
    • altcognito 6mo ago
      .40 cents for high quality output is insanely cheap it is only going to get cheaper
      • eclipticplane 6mo ago
        > .40 cents Warning: Verizon math ahead.
        • tfehring 6mo ago
          In case anyone is unfamiliar with one of the most infuriating phone calls of all time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShv_74FNWU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShv_74FNWU
        • altcognito 6mo ago
          lol, noted thanks!
      • ai_fry_ur_brain 6mo ago
        You people keep saying this and token prices keep doubling. The cope of the gambler is truly one to marvel.
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• tkgally 6mo ago
  I had it produce a two-page manga with Japanese dialogue. Nearly perfect: https://www.gally.net/temp/20260422-chatgpt-images-2-example/index.html https://www.gally.net/temp/20260422-chatgpt-images-2-example...
• vunderba 6mo ago
  I decided to run gpt-image-2 on some of the custom comics I’ve come up with over the years to see how well it would do, since some of them are pretty unusual. Overall, I was quite impressed with how faithful it adhered to the prompts given that multi-panel stuff has to maintain a sense of continuity. Was surprised to see it be able to render a decent comic illustrating an unemployed Pac-Man forced to find work as a glorified pie chart in a boardroom of ghosts. https://mordenstar.com/other/gpt-2-comics https://mordenstar.com/other/gpt-2-comics
• sanex 6mo ago
  Having the launch website just scrollable generated images is so slick. I love this.
  • gverrilla 6mo ago
    You can click the images too, to see the prompt that got them gen'ed.
• mvkel 6mo ago
  I wonder if this confirms version 1 of some kind of "world model." It has an unprecedented ability to generate the real thing (for example, a working barcode for a real book)
• mcfry 6mo ago
  How hard is it to have a video player with a fucking volume toggle?
• RyanJohn 6mo ago
  Oh my god, it's very nice!
• prvc 6mo ago
  I hope they will consider releasing DALL-E 2 publicly, now that there has been so much progress since it was unveiled. It had a really nice vibe to it, so worth preserving.
  • andy_ppp 6mo ago
    Yes, I’ve always thought of AI companies as sentimental. They will definitely do this :-/
    • prvc 6mo ago
      That's why I want it; their motives for doing it, should they decide to, would presumably be different.
• green_wheel 6mo ago
  Well artists, you guys had a good run thank you for your service.
• jumploops 6mo ago
  Looks like analog clocks work well enough now, however it still struggles with left-handed people. Overall, quite impressed with its continuity and agentic (i.e. research) features.
• cyberjunkie 6mo ago
  Looks like AI and I look away from any image generated by a LLM. It's my easy internal filter to weed out everything that isn't art.
• manishfp 6mo ago
  Goated release tbh. The text work inside the images are nice
• fizlebit 6mo ago
  Scrolling through those images it just feels like intellectual theft on a massive scale. The only place I think you're going to get genuinely new ideas is from humans. Whether those humans use AI or not I don't care, but the repetitive slop of AI copying the creative output of humans I don't find that interesting. Call me a curmudgeon. I guess humans also create a lot of derivative slop even without AI assistance. If this leads somehow to nicer looking user interfaces and architecture maybe that is good thing. There are a lot of ugly websites, buildings and products.
• justani 6mo ago
  I have a few cases where nano banana fails all the time, even gpt image 2 is failing. A 3 * 3 cube made out of small cubes, with a small 2 * 2 cube removed from it - https://chatgpt.com/share/69e85df6-5840-83e8-b0e9-3701e9233244 https://chatgpt.com/share/69e85df6-5840-83e8-b0e9-3701e92332... Create a dot grid containing a rectangle covering 4 dots horizontally and 3 dots vertically - https://chatgpt.com/share/69e85e4b-252c-83e8-b25f-416984cf3040 https://chatgpt.com/share/69e85e4b-252c-83e8-b25f-416984cf30... One where Nano banana fails but gpt image 2 worked: create a grid from 1 to 100 and in that grid put a snake, with it's head at 75 and tail at 31 - https://chatgpt.com/share/69e85e8b-2a1c-83e8-a857-d4226ba97614 https://chatgpt.com/share/69e85e8b-2a1c-83e8-a857-d4226ba976...
  • teruakohatu 6mo ago
    > A 3 * 3 cube made out of small cubes, with a small 2 * 2 cube removed from it - https://chatgpt.com/share/69e85df6-5840-83e8-b0e9-3701e92332 https://chatgpt.com/share/69e85df6-5840-83e8-b0e9-3701e92332... It is a little ambiguous (what exactly is a "3x3 cube") but I tried a bunch of variations and I simply could not get any Gemini models to produce the right output.
    • sigmoid10 6mo ago
      You can do it, but it takes two steps. Code is generally better to create such strict geometry (even from ambiguous prompts), while the image diffusion model is great for tuning style and lighting. https://chatgpt.com/share/69e88b5c-8628-83eb-8851-f587ef2c95f1 https://chatgpt.com/share/69e88b5c-8628-83eb-8851-f587ef2c95...
      • teruakohatu 6mo ago
        Interesting. Did you have code execution enabled and did it actually execute a script?
  • qingcharles 6mo ago
    It did well on the PBJ Rubik's Cube test I run: https://imgur.com/a/unpVdS8 https://imgur.com/a/unpVdS8
• naseemali925 6mo ago
  Its amazingly good at creating UI mockups. Been trying this to create UI mockups for ideas.
• parasti 6mo ago
  A great technical achievement, for sure, but this is kind of the moment where it enters uncanny valley to me. The promo reel on the website makes it feel like humans doing incredible things (background music intentionally evokes that emotion), but it's a slideshow of computer generatated images attempting to replicate the amazing things that humans do. It's just crazy to look at those images and have to consciously remind myself - nobody made this, this photographed place and people do not exist, no human participated in this photo, no human traced the lines of this comic, no human designer laid out the text in this image. This is a really clever amalgamation machine of human-based inputs. Uncanny valley.
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  • qnleigh 6mo ago
    No this is what life looks like on the other side of the uncanny valley. The images don't look creepy because they look artificial or wrong. They're a reminder of a creepy new reality where our eyes can no longer tell us what's real.
    • rambojohnson 6mo ago
      Online.
    • Cyan488 6mo ago
      We've definitely passed the point where discerning between real and AI images is impossible, even for a very detail-oriented eye.
      • Cthulhu_ 6mo ago
        It's not really a new problem though, as image forgery was a thing ages ago; if there weren't laws or measures taken against photoshopped images or instagram filters or faceapp things then, why would there be laws or measures taken against AI generated images now? Granted, a nontrivial difference is that the barrier to entry is lower; photo editing is something that requires active effort and learning.
• dawdwa 6mo ago
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• baalimago 6mo ago
  "Benchmarks" aside, do anyone actually use these image models for anything?
  • razorbeamz 6mo ago
    Here in Japan every fucking food truck uses them for pictures of their menu, which really pisses me off because it's not representative of their food at all.
  • croisillon 6mo ago
    MAGA to show how terrible Europe is ;)
  • medlazik 6mo ago
    Look around? It's everywhere. Try talking to a graphic designer looking for a job theses days. Companies didn't wait for these tools to be good to start using them.
  • sumedh 6mo ago
    People are using them for creating marketing material for their business.
• jcattle 6mo ago
  Can we talk about how jarring the announcement video is? AI generated voice over, likely AI generated script (You see, this model isn't just generating images, it's thinking!). From what it looks like only the editing has some human touch to it? It does this Apple style announcement which everyone is doing, but through the use of AI, at least for me, it falls right into the uncanny valley.
• codebolt 6mo ago
  Anyone test it out for generating 2D art for games? Getting nano banana to generate consistent sprite sheets was seemingly impossible last time i tried a few months ago.
  • hersko 6mo ago
    I'm still looking for a free tool to convert images to 3d models well.
• tezza 6mo ago
  I've rushed out my standardised quality check images for gpt-image-2: https://generative-ai.review/2026/04/rush-openai-gpt-image-2-quality-settings/ https://generative-ai.review/2026/04/rush-openai-gpt-image-2... I've done a series over all the OpenAI models. gpt-image-2 has a lot more action, especially in the Apple Cart images.
• tomchui157 6mo ago
  Img2+ seed dance 2 = image AGI
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• dahuangf 6mo ago
  good job
• StefanBatory 6mo ago
  Do you think those working at ChatGPT have ever wondered how they are contributing to dismantling democracy and ensuring nothing is true by now? The ultimate technological postmodernism.
  • wiseowise 6mo ago
    They’re too busy counting cash. Most of them are what? 30 something to 50? By the time democracy is dismantled they’ll be living in their protected mansions.
  • Sateeshm 6mo ago
    Tragedy of commons. If you don't do it, somone else will.
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• PDF_Geek 6mo ago
  The free tier for ChatGPT feels pretty much nerfed at this point. I’m barely getting 10 prompts in before it drops me down to the basic model. The restrictions are getting ridiculous. Is anyone else seeing this?
• lionkor 6mo ago
  Every cent you spend on this, remember: The people who made this possible are not even getting a millionth of a cent for every billion USD made with it (they are getting nothing). Same with code; that code you spent years pouring over, fixing, etc. is now how these companies make so much money and get so much investment. It's like open source, except you get shafted.
  • barnabee 6mo ago
    A lot of people here aren't going to like it, but the only reasonable way out I can see is to eventually socialise ownership and control of AI. I don't see an alternative that isn't really bad.
    • master-lincoln 6mo ago
      Seize the means of production!
      • barnabee 6mo ago
        I'll be satisfied if we just manage to seize the means of our otherwise impending servitude under corporate techno-fascism…
      • odiroot 6mo ago
        Tokens to the people!
    • user34283 6mo ago
      I figure capitalism may soon become obsolete. But I don’t think this speculation is going to make for interesting discussion on here. I find the technical discussion more interesting and could do without some of the moral grandstanding in the comments.
      • Urahandystar 6mo ago
        People say that but the quote. " I can sooner imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism." Always comes back to me. Personally I think it won't be communism but communalism.
• rambojohnson 6mo ago
  Just tried it and got six fingers and half a thumb on a simple portrait. Mickey Mouse stuff.
• rambojohnson 6mo ago
  Just tried it and got the usual six fingers, and half a thumb. What are they actually iterating on with these models by now…
• AltruisticGapHN 6mo ago
  This is insanely good. But wow, prompting to get any one of these images is way more complicated than prompting Claude Code. There is a ton of vocabulary that comes with it relating to the camera, the lighting, the mood etc.
• BohdanPetryshyn 6mo ago
  Am I the only one for whom videos in OpenAI releases never load? Tried both Chrome and Safari
• elAhmo 6mo ago
  I am super out of the loop here, what happened with Dall-E?
  • vunderba 6mo ago
    DALL-E 3 (last version I think) went dark over a year ago and has since been replaced by the gpt-image-x series which honestly is a bit of a shame because the weird surreal images it generated were still pretty fun from an experimental point of view.
• VA1337 6mo ago
  So is it better than nano-banana after all?
• aledevv 6mo ago
  Only vintage-style images?
• c16 6mo ago
  That video seems like it was made for the tiktok generation. Slow down.
• freakynit 6mo ago
  Collection of some amazing prompts and corresponding images: https://gpt2-image-showcase.pagey.site/ https://gpt2-image-showcase.pagey.site/ Credits: https://github.com/magiccreator-ai/awesome-gpt-image-2-prompts https://github.com/magiccreator-ai/awesome-gpt-image-2-promp...
• Oarch 6mo ago
  Every groundbreaking new AI release feels like a volley of cannonfire towards the soul. Oof.
  • arkensaw 6mo ago
    no AI could ever be so poetic. nice
  • fennecfoxy 6mo ago
    Lmao, and pre-AI the world wasn't trending towards cost-reduced mass-produced executive-driven content? And the average member of our species lapping it up like being a mindless consumer is going out of style?
  • deadbabe 6mo ago
    Nothing digital could ever truly have soul. We must embrace physical reality if we want to find true connection, to something real.
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• super256 6mo ago
  I tried using it for creating 2D logos, which many tools suck at (except mid journey). Looks like ChatGPT Images 2 is now good at this too!
• mercacona 6mo ago
  Every improvement in image generation seems to reduce the value of the images themselves. When anything can be faked or created in seconds, what is an image really worth? With text or code, you can dig into a meaningful dialogue because their reality is digital too. But images become like the plain people to show up photo frames. I guess it's just a completely personal feeling.
  • DonThomasitos 6mo ago
    This AI fatigue is called genflation.
  • fennecfoxy 6mo ago
    Nah I'm gonna generate the hecky out of "relevant for this one presentation" little cliparts to add to my powerpoints. But then I'm still going to take photos on film and enjoy Sunday afternoons in the darkroom doing prints. It's possible to compromise and/or use the right tool for the right job. Saving me time for something of little or fleeting importance? AI. Making me feel good/physical work with hands/emotion chemicals in my brain? Film/traditional media.
    • mercacona 6mo ago
      Haha! Please, don’t! We don’t need clipart or senseless AI generated schemas on PowerPoints :-)
• mrzhangbo 6mo ago
  I'm exhausted. I've developed many products, but most of them were abandoned halfway through.
• souravroy78 6mo ago
  Cool!
• rzgrozt 6mo ago
  now that's a good work since it's openai
• dumbaccount123 6mo ago
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• bsenftner 6mo ago
  My problem with all of this is the terrible educations everyone has, and they cannot discriminate images from art, nor art from communications, and if they had they would realize these points this entire debate hinges is a manipulation to create people that will not help themselves with the latest technologies. But to explain it causes people to get angry, because they either think I'm trying to manipulate them, or they fall in despair when they realize the magnitude of this crime.
• giannicmptr1000 6mo ago
  Humans have a new tool to make porn.
• flyingsquirrel_ 6mo ago
  GPT Images 2.0 is very wonderful image model in the world
• nickandbro 6mo ago
  I asked it to make me a xkcd comic: https://chatgpt.com/s/m_69e8cc31dac48191a09bb9c00d5aa3fe https://chatgpt.com/s/m_69e8cc31dac48191a09bb9c00d5aa3fe kinda funny, I guess
  • hersko 6mo ago
    Lol this is pretty funny
• fsloth 6mo ago
  Do note the images will be sterilized and safe. "Hey give me a comic of how to create a rocket engine i can build at home" Unlimited creativity will be shackled by safety. Still pretty amazing.
• Unsponsoredio 6mo ago
  the image generation genuinely got me excited, outputs are impressive. but editing what it creates still feels underbaked.
• sumitkumar 6mo ago
  prompt: create a qr code to https://www.anthropic.com https://www.anthropic.com response: https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/estuary/content?id=file_00000000f45071f597802f1beb5f22fa&ts=493573&p=fs&cid=1&sig=987113a650fa9441663fedece61067b9cc9bbad2bba0eacf603e8e11d1c403a7&v=0 https://chatgpt.com/backend-api/estuary/content?id=file_0000... result: FAIL
• hungry-facet 6mo ago
  You know what else is a good image generator? Humans.
• tadasg 6mo ago
  insane model... already doing stuff like app screenshots
• lokthedev 6mo ago
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• HardCodedBias 6mo ago
  This is an amazing technological achievement. Kudos. This is so much better than the competition. I suspect that this will have an impact in business and education, at a minimum.
• nashashmi 6mo ago
  What are your thoughts about using natural semantic language to achieve edits to a picture? As users of technical software, we have absorbed an entire science and work model behind the things we do. Before now, I found it impossible to replicate that kind of precision with AI generated images. But it seems like it is possible with natural language prompting, which makes this more accessible to layman users. But what can more advanced users accomplish? Is there a more technical prompting that can be given?
• kalx 6mo ago
  I tricked it into making a nude. That was fun.
• curious1008 6mo ago
  I have tried Images 2.0 and I believe it does a way better job than the other image generation models. For example, I used NanoBanana and Images 2.0 to generate the same written article in Chinese as IMAGES, GPT does 100x better at rendering all the Chinese characters despite having minor mistakes.
  • giancarlostoro 6mo ago
    I think they're using whatever approach they used for Suno with this model, with Suno, I could tell it things with little context, and it knew that I was asking for something modern with a dated term, and it updated my request to match today's reality. I was impressed.
• cdrnsf 6mo ago
  This isn't art. At best it's modern day clip art or a facsimile of stock images.
• Sargos 6mo ago
  Is this available for Codex subscription users of Open Claw without needing a separate API key?
• Slash32 6mo ago
  it'll be a game changer
• iainctduncan 6mo ago
  Another generous gift to the ransomware and fraud "industries".
• MarchApril 6mo ago
  How many tech releases like these should happen and everyone would look at the person next to them, all agree that the age of human has come to an end, right at that moment. Don't dare to stop the train of progress, even when you're not on it. The mechanized MC, they don't even try to fool you with an attractive host for these events anymore, stare at you through your screen, whispering directly into your ears with a voice of a late family member: "Sorry dear, you've had a good run. Rest easy now."
• richardatlarge 6mo ago
  Can anyone explain why chatgpt can understand verbal prompts but midjouney almost cannot? Midjouney is like a powerful program you have to write code to use