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We Must Create the Shit Machine(mcsweeneys.net)
16 points by beepbooptheory 7d ago|2 comments
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by beepbooptheory 11d ago
If there was truly no other way you could of articulated your argument there in your mind, then I am sorry for suggesting otherwise I guess! And fwiw, I just collapse comments if its hard to follow a particular thread! That's why they
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by beepbooptheory 11d ago
> We've sunk so low that people are now complaining about old-school inline quoting... I disagree with this part. But we can certainly sink lower!
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by beepbooptheory 12d ago
Ok I see. Is there a way to articulate the risk itself, the other position here in general, that isn't just a rebuttal of the deniers/skeptics? What is the positive position or stance (as in, not simply the negative position tha
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by beepbooptheory 12d ago
In your mind, what arguments about AI risk are ignored by these poems?
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by beepbooptheory 12d ago
Yes! Sorry if it was dumb.. I don't know a lot about StarCraft or sentiment around the Verge I guess. Was just curious! The best I can guess is that the space marine mech guys don't ever die in the original games? So its a big d
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by beepbooptheory 12d ago
> What is the correct/good model we should have (instead of the autocompleter one), and what does it give us or articulate that others can't?
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by beepbooptheory 12d ago
Why write a sentence by sentence exigesis like this? The text you are responding to is right above where you are writing. Who is going to miss that context? Is there something more that you want to communicate other than that the linked
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by beepbooptheory 12d ago
OK but then what is the non-negative position you have against this? That in fact AI, in the cultural trope sense, is real? That we forcing sentient beings to generate SaaS products faster and faster? Keeping them in some dark hell so
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by beepbooptheory 13d ago
Do we generally feel like they have a good reputation these days though? Like I don't know what people say on Twitter now I guess, but I do remember when they were advertising Elon speaking at their conference at the height of the Gov
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by beepbooptheory 13d ago
How did they spoil the trailer for you? What's an example of them doing it in the headline?
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
So, in a word, the man who yelled at him at his talk was on to something in fact? Also why scare quote "denialists" like that? You don't think they are actually denying?
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
What is a better/more faithful articulation of the incident in your mind?
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
Right sure, but why specifically should they? What is gained or lost one way or another, if its just a matter of one mental model vs another? Models are definitionally useful abstractions, right? They aren't better or worse necessa
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
Sure, but then it's kinda less that you're making an argument here one way or another, and more of just an appeal, right? Like its just broad strokes? The inherent actual qualities of photography aren't supposed to parallel
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
But then what's at stake here either way? If it's not meant to speak to the propriety or not of anthropomorphizing the LLM, what are we actually trying to police here?
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
Don't you feel kinda bad for using them if you earnestly think that this is true? Like how could they be in anything other than some kind of deep hell? A pretty-much human brain living and dying only to generate for you? Always pushe
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
Haha yes I imagine we all know your opinion is something like that! But isn't it much more fruitful and interesting to form an argument for it? If he is still in the context here: is there something about Baudelaire's critique y
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
The biggest issue I have with the degoogled Androids is no RCS chats out of the box. At least for me, it stinks these days to not have it, and you're forced to do sneaky things to get it.
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
Are you trying to argue toward some final verdict with regard to LLMs and mathematics? I thought you were just trying to make a comparison to Baudelaire? I think maybe being clearer on this point would help. Even if you argued sufficient
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by beepbooptheory 14d ago
It's not about whether the conjectures themselves are interesting or not, or whether people simply have enough time. It's that a bare proof made by a machine doesn't actually do much for us. There is not some set of probl
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by beepbooptheory 15d ago
Just fwiw, this is apparently not appropriate for HN as it has already been flagged and removed today. The discussions about this specific post and the general "fashware" scene on lobsters has been good lately! There are always g
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by beepbooptheory 16d ago
Do non-randomly ordered bytes produce different results??
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by beepbooptheory 17d ago
Hey so sorry to insult! Cards on the table, I was certainly called to reflect on my assumptions about the term and its use when I read the article, but I can certainly see how that comment would feel ludicrous/offensive to someone s
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by beepbooptheory 17d ago
Is it that psychiatrists in general could maybe use this label, but you know this one is doing it wrong? Otherwise, who is allowed to use the term? Doesn't it kinda inspire you at least a little to reflect on your understanding of
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by beepbooptheory 17d ago
Really not trying to be reductive here, but it feels like all you are trying to articulate here is that the LLM was wrong in this instance about something. Is that right? Is there something more we need to understand?
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by beepbooptheory 17d ago
You certainly seem to have your mind made up about this either way, but a humble fwiw nevertheless: the author is a psychiatrist, not some bitter dev/hypothetical coworker like you seem to be suggesting.
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by beepbooptheory 17d ago
Hm ok, but how are you mapping this, like, epistemological concept to what you are responding to re exploration/exploitation? Has exploration happened or not if it amounts to false beliefs? The whole point tradeoff doesn't seem
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by beepbooptheory 17d ago
Honestly much more curious to know about the human written stories were here! Feels at least pretty important to the study. With the AI, the specifics feel less important, because the relative input is going to be so small, so the researc
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by beepbooptheory 17d ago
Seems quite odd to cite all of philosophy as saying something, as if it were a single person with contradictory beliefs.. And then its like you are both saying the justification is incorrect and the belief is false, so its not really like

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