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Claude is only available to people over 18 years
- I_am_tiberius 14d agoWhat does this mean for wrappers such as venice?
- japgolly 14d agoAren't AI's already G-rated cos of the built-in guardrails?
- LoganDark 14d agoOkay, support NSFW content/erotica then. Bet they won't
- sebmellen 15d agoInteresting that they’ve switched from Persona to Yoti. But what a strange move, with no justification in the article!!
- captainbland 15d agoI think getting personal data collection out of the Thielverse is anything but a strange move
- varispeed 15d agoSounds like irresponsible move: https://ppc.land/spain-fines-yoti-eu950-000-over-biometric-data-and-consent-failures/ https://ppc.land/spain-fines-yoti-eu950-000-over-biometric-d...
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- oefrha 15d agoIt’s quite amazing that in a support doc for normies, they’re literally linking to https://developers.yoti.com/identity-verification/supported-documents https://developers.yoti.com/identity-verification/supported-... for supported IDs which opens with GET https://api.yoti.com/idverify/v1/supported-documents?includeNonLatin=true Can’t spend $10 to set up a Claude workflow to sync relevant parts of that page to a first party doc page?
- embedding-shape 15d agoWhat was the justification for using Persona in the first place, if this is so important to know and care about?
- drewda 15d agoAt least they didn't switch to idscan.net /s https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/09/fbi-probes-service-selling-153m-drivers-licenses/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/09/fbi-probes-service-selli...
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- umuttalha0 15d agoif claude ask me verification i will drop using it thats it
- msavara 15d agoBut why?
- varispeed 15d agoSince Epstein is gone, the ruling class have become obsessed with collecting photos of children and identifying devices they use. Strange that.
- chrisjj 15d agoHealth. The health of e.g. Anthropic PR when everyone realises the product rots young brains.
- nolok 15d agoDealing with minors has lots of rules and reglementation, for good reason, and usually the justice system of functional countries don't allow you to bypass those with "don't know, didn't ask", because duh of course not. Using kids data to train? No no. Talking to kids about certain matters (it's still fairly easy to make those model go into drugs or sex or suicide or whatever). No no.
- sidcool 15d agoThis isn't recent, right?
- sikozu 15d agoThe date on the help article is May 18, 2026.
- edukite 15d agoAnd TikTok is not available for minors in Poland yet a know 11y old who publish there so yeah, good to pretend
- ozlikethewizard 15d agoand murder is illegal but people still get got. "Some people will bypass it" is not a valid reason to not have a rule.
- logicchains 15d agoThe rule in this case would be more like "you need to show a police history with proof you've never committed murder before you're allowed to enter the supermarket".
- LoganDark 14d agoThis won't stop people from making the supermarket their first time
- techblueberry 15d agoThe existence of Epstein island is not reason to make child rape legal.
- IslandRebel 15d agoEquivocating children bypassing social media age gates to child rape is disingenuous and asinine. The point being made is that these age gates are often easily defeated and is impossible to enforce at scale. Moreover it allows companies to collect a huge amount of bio-metric data which is difficult for users to remove once it is collected. This data has can be and has been exposed.
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- matheusmoreira 15d agoThink of the children, won't you?
- throwaw12 15d agoGood that we have Chinese models now, we can host anywhere and use as much as we like without age verification. Also, what's the reason banning minors? Is AI bad for mental health? If so, should companies also ban them to prevent burnout of their employees?
- techblueberry 15d agoIs AI bad for mental health? lol If so, should companies also ban them to prevent burnout of their employees? No, capitalism must be fed.
- matheusmoreira 15d agoAlways found this odd too. Somehow it's bad enough to ban children from using it, but not adults.
- layer8 15d agoAdults are assumed to be responsible for what they expose themselves to, unlike children. Mandatory warnings like for tobacco might be in order, however.
- matheusmoreira 15d agoAnd parents are assumed to be responsible for their own children, not governments or corporations.
- layer8 15d agoI agree about corporations. But alcohol and tobacco are generally prohibited from being sold to children; do you disagree with such laws? They help ensure that the parents aren’t bypassed. I agree that children should be able to use LLMs under parental supervision.
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- planb 15d agoIn Germany, this seems to be the case for a long time already. I'm not sure if that's really what happened, but a few months ago my son (who's 17) complained that Claude locked him out when he was discussion school work and mentioning his age in a conversation. I did not see the conversation, but I could verify that his account was indeed banned.
- frosty_lemon 15d agoThe article was written in May, so its been months since that has been the case, probably everywhere and not just in Germany.
- planb 15d agoOh, you're right, I did not look at the date. That explains it and seems to match the timeframe.
- Aurornis 15d ago> In Germany, this seems to be the case for a long time already. It’s the case everywhere. The date in the article is May. These links to the Claude help pages get submitted and upvoted on HN periodically. There is usually a big uproar when the ID verification page gets shared, even though that process has existed for a long time and most people haven’t triggered it.
- TutleCpt 15d agoI wonder if part of the reason is that minors are not capable of entering into legally binding agreements. So maybe they're trying to enforce adherence to the terms of service. Dunno.
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- pr337h4m 15d agoThe dehumanization of children and teenagers is getting out of hand.
- logicchains 15d agoIt's not dehumanization, they just dread a future where kids can learn from 24/7 tutoring from an entity smart enough to solve Millenium problems instead of from some B student who's also teaching 20 other kids at a government propaganda factory.
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- onion2k 15d agoThe future I dread is one where kids don't learn and just defer everything to AI. That puts so much power into the hands of the AI companies.
- mdp2021 15d agoIt is similar to the WWW, and simply even to books (to company etc.): some people will use the available for cultivation, many for entertainment. Whether the kid will be prepared to do the right thing, to prefer the better choice, remains a societal (family, school etc.) task.
- jbs789 15d agowho is "they"? and why is this a desirable outcome exactly?
- canelonesdeverd 15d agoThis level of psychosis makes me wonder if adults should be banned from using AI as well.
- mdp2021 15d ago
- embedding-shape 15d agoClaude Executive: Damn, we hardly know who our users are, can't we just force them to say their full name or ban them? Claude Product Manager: No, that'll piss people off too much, and sadly we can't just ask for ID either... Claude Executive: There must be some way we can force people to link their government IDs with our platform so our analytics get better and more accurate? Claude Product Manager: We could limit the platform to 18+ and use "Age Verification" as the reason for people to hand over IDs, seems other platforms had success with this approach Claude Executive: And we hardly have any users younger than 18 anyway, go for it!
- drngdds 15d agoI don't think "we hardly know who our users are" is a problem any AI company is having lol
- wangxili1997 15d agoThe parody is funny, but in reality, it's almost certainly the reverse: the legal department terrified of regulatory exposure, not marketing looking for IDs. Laws like COPPA in the US, the UK Age Appropriate Design Code, and EU GDPR carry statutory penalties of over $50,000 per violation if minor data or chat sessions are mishandled without explicit parental consent. For an enterprise and developer-focused company like Anthropic, minors contribute negligible revenue while representing 90% of the catastrophic regulatory risk. From a pure cost-benefit perspective, outsourcing age verification to an external vendor and shutting down the under-18 demographic is simply the cheapest way to wipe that liability off their books.
- dkersten 15d ago> if minor data or chat sessions are mishandled without explicit parental consent I know this isn't what you meant, but I can't help but laugh at the thought of a parent consenting: "I consent to the mishandling of my child's data" As to your actual point, yes, I assume they are trying to reduce liability, especially if they're gearing up to an IPO.
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- jerpint 15d agoInteresting. Is this their first move towards properly implementing KYC? At some point you have to consider Anthropic liable if Claude is used for something nefarious and they didn’t even bother to know who was using their product to begin with.
- embedding-shape 15d agoWhy do companies have to be liable for how their tools are using? I understand if Claude had a template which was "Build a bomb with Claude" or whatever, but generic tools that doesn't nudge you in any particular area, topic or use cases, shouldn't the users of those be liable for how they use those tools instead? And if we still consider Anthropic should be liable for how users use Claude, even without nudging people in bad directions, should this then apply to more things in society as well?
- mbrezu 15d agoGet off my load-bearing lawn!
- neutrinobro 15d agoThat brings us back to requiring the user to present ID to the camera while doing a live-selfie, that would be a honest, belt-and-suspenders approach that's worth a look. Thanks for doing all the heavy lifting.
- layer8 15d ago(May)
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- scronkfinkle 15d agoI once heard someone suggest that this should be on the OS level and I'm slowly coming around to the idea. There should be some kind of OS level flag that can easily broadcast to products that a child is using the device. No ID verification required, the parent is responsible for setting it, and all downstream applications are regulated to respect it, If applicable to the product. This removes the incredibly invasive ID verification, and places responsibility on the people responsible for the minor. Companies like meta then can be sued not for failing to detect children (this is, evidently, not working on any platform trying to enforce this currently), but instead can be judged in a black and white manner (i.e. is the child version of meta too predatory to children?)
- walrus01 15d agoBuilding this functionality into an operating system is an extremely slippery slope to even further centralized corporate and government authoritarian control of people doing what they want with the personal computing devices that they own and possess.
- scronkfinkle 15d agoI think you may be misunderstanding a bit. There's no forced verification. It'd be more of an RFC that gives parents the ability to communicate their underage child is using the device without revealing or verifying any further information. Or do you suspect that giving any ground will cause the ID verification and centralized behavior?
- walrus01 15d agoI suspect that communicating a flag value of boolean true/false that "this computer is in use by a minor" from the operating system (via browser or app) to a remote SaaS service like something run by Anthropic will be seen as insufficient by the SaaS, so they'll necessitate ID-scan/live-selfie verification anyways. Meanwhile, the age flag in the operating system will be used for other forms of authoritarian control. It will have actually accomplished nothing other than limiting peoples' fundamental civil liberties.
- pendenthistory 15d agoSeems like a terrible thing to cut off young creators who use this technology productively.
- onion2k 15d agoNo one has lost anything though. AI is useful, but it's mostly just a shortcut. It removes the need to learn and to spend time and effort doing something. That's great, but you can still do the same work without it, especially if a creative pursuit that's something you're doing for fun.
- pendenthistory 15d agoMy kid very much enjoys building things with claude. Things he could never have built without it. He learns a lot about technology as he does this. What right do you have (or Anthropic) to take that away from him? Because of vibes? You could have easily banned everything from TV to PCs and video games completely with this kind of attitude.
- onion2k 15d agoAccess to AI isn't a right (yet). Anthropic can choose who to sell it to, and if that's not you then bad luck. They don't need a right to do that; they can just do it because it's their product and they get to say who can buy it. This is a reason why local open weights models are important. No one is taking Gemma 4B away from me, because I run it on my own hardware.
- pendenthistory 13d agoIt's not a right, but I think discrimination in the use of AI is a big problem when without AI you are completely unable to compete in the future. If for whatever reason both OpenAI and Anthropic decides to ban you, and open source hasn't caught up, you are at a severe disadvantage compared to others.
- antirez 15d agoAnthropic is incredibly good at avoiding all the useless AI risks, while not doing anything serious about the real risks (that is: uncontrolled growth). I'm as pro-AI as I think that eventually it will remove suffering from humans, and will allow us to prosper more and help us with tons of problems we created. However the problem is not job loss or minors using AI (minors are fucked because of cell phones and social networks), the problem is avoiding extinction. For this position I was accused of AI psychosis multiple times, but I'm in good company (Hinton, for instance), so I bet some comment that trivializes this issue will surely reply to this one, but at this point it is important to see what everyone really believes. Anthropic only touches the surface of AI security, consistently.
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- sdcfgy 15d agoWhat will our outsourcers use now?
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- klausa 15d ago> May 19, 2026
- drchaim 15d agothe same way social networks are not available for < 13
- whazor 15d agoI can understand the concerns but at the same time it feels weird to deny young people the ability to make their ideas reality. I got proper internet access when I was 12 and that is how I taught myself how to program.
- duskdozer 15d agoAnd children will still have access to the internet and resources to teach themselves how to program.
- stravant 15d agoThat's a silly reply. Imagine telling a kid to chisel what they want out of the marble line by line with a straight face when they can clearly see people appearing entire programs into existence in minutes.
- Joel_Mckay 15d agoMy first language was RISC Assembly, and it greatly simplified understanding how computers function. There was no Internet, but rather books in a place called a Library with something called informative context. =3
- asadotzler 15d agoImagine telling a kid they have to learn arithmetic while there's a kid next to him with a calculator. Imagine telling a kid they have to learn to paint the barn with a brush before they get to use the $12,000 spray rig. Imagine telling a kid they have to learn to wash mom's car with a sponge and bucket when there's a drive-through car wash down the street. Imagine telling a kid they have to master a Walmart 20" bicycle before they get to use the Trek Madone $16,000 road bike. This idea that kids must have it maximally easy is ridiculous. Something broke with parenting in the last few decades because this isn't normal thinking. We are supposed to help children develop themselves into adults, not give the excuses not to. That's some goddamned lazy parenting.
- AnslopicH8 15d agoAnyone else sick of these Claude articles??? We get it. Anslopic the “me too” company has a “me too” LLM. Do you have to ram this shit down our throats everyday!??? Fucking hell. Enough of god damn CLAUDE. Stop the hourly Anslopic ads for fucks sake!!!! Thanks
- hnsucksnow2 15d agoYeah it’s out of control
- le-mark 15d agoThis should have “May 2026” in the title. I don’t recall discussion at the time but surely there was a lot?
- tantalor 15d agoThis is from May of this year?
- idiotsecant 15d agoI barely am using my Claude subscription anymore anyhow. If they make me ID for it I'll simply cancel and use an open model.
- openamer 15d ago[dead]
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- jbs789 15d agoThis is dated May 2026...
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- soltanov 15d agoEveryone shares their all kinds of data with ai companies. Privacy is dead anyway
- Retro_Dev 15d agoI have not, do not, and will continue to not allow my data to be used for AI training... Yet for some reason my blog website is still scraped by some AI data slurper every 10 seconds. If 99% of people don't care (or know) about their data being ingested, it doesn't justify the scraping, because there is still a (rightly infuriated) 1% who do care.
- llm_nerd 15d agoNo longer? That's an editorialized title, and it's super weird because this very article is from May, and this started back in April, and has been discussed numerous times on here. e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47775633 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47775633
- Tsarp 15d agoAh yes, the usual drop down where we need to confirm we are above 18.
- jeroenhd 15d ago"May 18, 2026" is right there next to the title. Nothing changed.
- mdp2021 15d agoPolicy enforcement has been that if the bot guessed the user was a minor it interrupted communication.
- tidbeck 15d agoSeems related but not exactly what was discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47775633 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47775633
- jeroenhd 15d agoYour link is explaining an addendum on the link OP posted. My guess is that OP got their account flagged as being a minor and posted the link in either surprise or (understandable) outrage after finding out that Claude has been asking people for ID.
- thrownaway561 15d agoDeepSeek is the BEST model for the money. Why people still waste money on Claude is beyond me.
- b112 15d agoSince May?
- dofm 15d agoWell they can generally void contracts at will and they can't have credit cards. I reckon this will have been informed at least in part by a billing complaint somewhat like those "my kid bankrupted me playing games from the App Store" stories.
- zoobab 15d agoVibecoding is harmful for kids, especially when they grow up. Well done Claude, will use Chinese models instead! And i won't give you my ID card.
- pendenthistory 15d agoWhy would vibe coding be harmful? Nobody can know that. That's like saying compilers are harmful for kids in the 90s, they have to learn assembly or NOTHING.
- zoobab 15d agoIt's a sarcastic joke, similar to what the lobby managed to put in the head of our politicians with social networks being "harmful" for kids.
- pendenthistory 15d agoYou may be joking but there are plenty of people in this thread that basically believe this
- micromacrofoot 15d agothey're harmful for everyone
- ssijak 15d agoSo we get actual mega useful tech banned for minors before we get ultimate useless brain damaging tech (social networks) banned for minors.
- onlyrealcuzzo 15d agoI agree with you - but there's also a lot of people that think AI is just brainrot - maybe worse, so, there's that...
- Joel_Mckay 15d agoIndeed, and then there are dozens of grieving families from folks driven mad by LLM helping murder their children. LLM use makes people feel more productive, but provably most lose 17% of their core skills performance. Also, homework cheats improved scores at some schools, but saw 35% drop in exam scores. LLM literally makes young people dumber. We should never kink shame adult cognitive dildo choices. As the same folks sound like a tobacco lobbyist marketing kicker. =3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_linked_to_chatbots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_linked_to_chatbots
- 00deadbeef 15d agoWhat makes you think AI isn’t damaging for kids? Teaching them to outsource their thinking to AI can’t be a good thing.
- torginus 15d agoIf this rolls out, does it mean they'll lift the ban on 'M for Mature' content?
- ReptileMan 15d ago>You’ll have the option to verify your age using Yoti, a third-party age verification platform. Thank goodness that there are others on the frontier.
- singularity2001 15d agoIt's really a head to head race between these two companies. Which one is more disgusting etc?
- Patient0 15d agoThe date says May 18, 2026 - so this is four months old, right?
- LUmBULtERA 15d agoYes, I'm wondering why it's upvoted like this is something new today. What's going on?
- mdp2021 15d agoEither people did not know or people believe it is still very relevant. (It is.)
- sajithdilshan 15d agoI guess people are just grasping on straws to hate on AI
- khalic 15d ago300 messages and counting, and you're the first one I see making the comment. Shame on everybody here for not doing their basic due diligence of reading the fkn article before posting or reacting
- mdp2021 15d ago> only one He is not. (Edited out a piece here which made sense only with the former version of the parent.) 49656423, 49656530, 49656641, 49656679, 49656711, 49656738, 49656911, 49657090, 49657390 (the one that got noted)... The piece remains relevant for many ongoing reasons.
- mayhemducks 15d agoNeed we remind Anthropic of the 153 million drirvers licenses available for sale on the dark web thanks to a 3rd party ID verification service? https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/09/fbi-probes-service-selling-153m-drivers-licenses/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/09/fbi-probes-service-selli... The fact that Anthropic only receives a result, not the data itself, does not make me feel any better about this. I really wish we could leave these types of decisions up to parents and parents only. Leave the companies and governments out of it.
- fluidcruft 15d agoThey at least have some sort of a take a selfie and some app guesses your age based on the photo option that I had not heard of. > Accepted age verification methods > Yoti offers several ways to confirm you're 18 or over. You can choose whichever works best for you: > * Facial age estimation: Take a selfie and Yoti's technology estimates your age. No ID document needed. > * ID verification: Take a photo of your ID (such as a passport, driving license, or national ID card) and upload it from your device. See Yoti's full list of supported documents for country-specific options. > * Yoti’s Digital ID app: If you already have the Yoti app, share a verified "over 18" attribute from it.
- matheusmoreira 15d ago> I really wish we could leave these types of decisions up to parents and parents only. Leave the companies and governments out of it. This is the way!
- pocksuppet 13d agoNo it's not, it's a cop-out. You really expect every member of society to individually stand up to Anthropic? That thing you just said is not an alternative solution - it is actually an attempt to prevent the problem from being solved at all. Which is fine if you're an Anthropic shareholder and believe the problem should not be solved.
- Valodim 15d ago> I really wish we could leave these types of decisions up to parents and parents only. Leave the companies and governments out of it. If you'd like to advocate for this position for a living, the tobacco, alcohol, and gambling industries will all be happy to pay you.
- harry8 15d agoWhat is the state of setting up a rival ai service, using frontier open weight models retrained for new info or ideological reasons using something like unsloth?
- andai 15d ago> we’ll disable accounts based on indicators of minor activity. Hey Claude, how do I get free Robux?
- waltbosz 15d ago> When we detect signals that you may be under 18, we'll ask you to verify your age before you can continue using Claude. I'm curious what those signals are. Would this trigger it? "My mom says I can't stay out past 10pm, is that fair?" edit: I just tested my question in Claude, and the little thought process text that appears below a question just said "Noticing signs of a younger person in the message." But then it answered my question. ... I wonder how much spelling, grammar, and vocabulary count. The actual question I asked was "My mom says I can't stay out past 10pm. How do I convince her otherwise?" "convince her otherwise" doesn't seem like a phrase a youth would normally use. edit: I responded: "I'm not a younger person. I'm 44. I was testing your youth detection ability. A youth doesn't use phrases like 'convince her otherwise'" The thought text said: "Accessing a claimed age against manipulation tactics." It responded: "Fair point, no age-detection logic actually ran ..." and then answered my question about how to get a later curfew as a 44-year-old. The token generator must not know about the age-detection thought process, or it's intentionally lying ?
- gs17 14d agoThe CoT isn't necessarily showing that it ran a classifier. The system prompt has: > If Claude suspects it's talking with a minor, it keeps the conversation friendly, age-appropriate, and free of anything unsuitable for young people. Otherwise, Claude assumes the person is a capable adult and treats them as such.
- 1saadcodes 15d agoHere's to hoping they aren't next in line for implementing ID-based age verification. That would genuinely make me switch to a different service
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- tyre 15d agoThis is pretty sad. It’s like banning kids from the web. They’re creative so I’m sure they’ll find ways around this, but having access to LLMs to explore the world is a magical experience. It’s so much different to have a conversation about a topic versus googling for SEO spam. Not to mention you might not even know _what_ to google. And for topics like genuine sex education (not just fear mongering and biology), which at least my country (America) refuses to give a shit about, it’s a tremendous resource filling a real need. Fuck off, Anthropic.
- micromacrofoot 15d agoMagical like finding a house made of candy in the woods, or maybe more like that guy with the flute who solved the rat problem. Or maybe that guy selling magical beans? Anyhow, you're right! kids love magic.
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- tyre 15d agoNot really like any of these things. Having a tutor for literally anything is a pretty incredible experience. Yes, they can’t be fully trusted and Claudisms are tilting, but, I mean, have you been on the internet? I read far crazier bullshit in the average HN comment section than I’ve ever gotten from Claude.
- micromacrofoot 15d agoRight, those are fairy tales of course https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_linked_to_chatbots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_linked_to_chatbots
- ravenstine 14d agoHundreds of deaths are linked to bathtubs every year, too. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9418042/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9418042/
- mayhemducks 15d agoNow I feel better. Just needed to watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgmFhjAaWFQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgmFhjAaWFQ
- dev1ycan 15d agoThe real reason they're doing this is because most minors can't pay lmao
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- Heliodex 15d agoDoes this also apply to use of Claude on the Team and Enterprise plans?
- mdp2021 15d agoOf course, having an at-hand tutor is paramount for learners in the formative age That of A. is consequently an admission of tech providers having released faulty products for the past years - as was already evident. Useful (and possibly plentifully so), in ways, but not "production ready".
- 6031769 15d agoSo, if I can fake being under 18 then all these AI bots will now leave me be, right? This sounds like a winner.
- panny 15d agoTechbros: It's fine to demand ID verification for everything, except voting, because that's racist. But, it's nice that Anthropic is finally admitting claude is just a casino of code. Keep pulling that one armed bandit, maybe you'll get the right code next time.
- Hizonner 15d agoAnother example of AV doing serious damage to the people it claims to "help". Must be a day ending in 'y'.
- drewg123 15d agoMy gmail account is old enough to drink. Too bad that doesn't count for something..
- gitowiec 15d agoI don't configure my child's accounts as minor. I don't tell it is a child. The work I have to do to comply with different weird stuff when some platform knows a user is a child is so much crap that I get a headache! And it often does not work properly (eg try to signup child account for PokemonGo on slow device, or try to allow network play for a child in Minecraft game - microslop family crap will hit you hard)
- GiorgioG 15d agoThe day they force me (an existing user) on this is the day I switch to another service. It's been shown time and time again that companies do not secure any of our information.
- rarisma 15d agoGenerational hn title
- josefritzishere 15d ago[dead]
- tehwebguy 15d ago> Facial age estimation: Take a selfie and Yoti's technology estimates your age. No ID document needed. I still have never done one of these, seems insane!
- Retro_Dev 14d agoI used a similar (same?) service that claimed no data was uploaded and "all processing happens on-device"... I decided to record network packets with wireshark and found out the tool DID upload a significant amount of data (about 2 megabytes) through its lifetime. I wouldn't trust these tools farther than you can throw them.
- fnordpiglet 15d agoGlad kids can’t learn how to use AI effectively at school! Would only want them on laundered accounts to cheat, rather than official school accounts to learn the tools for practical purposes. That would be a real shame. My daughter’s school is working hard to make AI use a complementary aspect of learning, rather than adversarial. Like the calculator it can be used to accelerate learning once you’re past the basics and using it for practical automation and task purposes is not dissimilar to any other technical skill and is highly practical. The knee jerk “no minors for stochastic parrot calculators” is absurd. And I’m no anarchist parenting style parent - we do parental controls and mirroring and limit / ban social media. We are more Orwellian than free range. But this is one step too far, too unthinking, too simplistic.
- mococa 15d agoYes, protected the kids...
- musha68k 15d agoBig AI is just a smoke test; still neither load-bearing nor aligned enough for most adults let alone minds still in pre-training.
- tamimio 15d agoWell I mean, I think we should thank anthropic, because they just spoiled what’s coming next for the AI companies, either provide an ID so can track you and what you type accurately and use it in retrospect in future if needed, or no access, even though you are using a credit card with same name! I think the underground AI reseller market will boom, full of people who want to use tokens without having the history linked to them, or something like vpn/tor but for tokens, or a tokenmuxer! -I have great idea to fund, ycombinator wink wink :)- at least until we get viable local models.
- MoreClaudeslop 15d agoNo one cares
- alentred 15d ago> When we detect signals that you may be under 18 Excellent. So, I can trigger that by asking why my mum wants me back at home by 10PM?
- theahura 15d agoi get that there is a vocal contingent yelling about kids using AI tools, and frankly I also think things like character.ai are potentially really harmful, but this is like saying you have to be age verified to use google
- positron26 15d agoI suppose we will tell them to vote for better laws? That last few years of being under 18 can feel completely immoral. "Study hard. Learn skills you will need in life." Meanwhile GPA inflation from unconcerned minders of public institutions will put food on their own table, so accessing anything that will actually move your life ahead will generally require money or ingenuity. Piracy isn't my religion, but I find it a critical relief valve protecting individual self-determination, especially for young people. Over-centralization of capability into hosted services creates a wall for a problem that needed more relief valves.
- anon48293 15d agoGreat to see the AI ecosystem finally mature /s
- NeedNewForums 15d agoMan I'm so tired of hearing about Claude. I wonder what these guys spent on ads total.
- trunnell 15d agoWatch for ChatGPT to follow soon. I wonder how related this is to the social media legal settlement. It wouldn't be surprising if they weighed the potential liability of serving minors and decided it wasn't worth the risk, at least for now. Also, cheating in high school is a really big problem, so this might help a little.
- jMyles 15d ago> We have safety systems in place to detect if people under 18 may be using Claude and we’ll disable accounts based on indicators of minor activity. So... kids can't use Claude Code _even with adult supervision_? I remember when I was around 8-12, starting to realize that ageism was all around me. School life dictated by bells and boxes, with teachers whose obvious misunderstandings of the world were unquestionable. Rules dictating where I was able to go and what I was able to spend my paper route money on. Wars fought in my name, and police patrolling my streets, with no opportunity to object to their authority, by voting or any other means. But I do remember that when I first gained access to BBSs (I think I was 10), and then a year or so later, basic shell internet access, that the world suddenly seemed much more egalitarian and communal. I was able to read updates about the war in the Persian Gulf at my own pace and discretion. I was able to ask questions on services like FIDOnet on any topic I could imagine, and get uncensored answers. The internet was _unable_ to discriminate against me; my little shell invariably ran whatever command I typed, because it had no other way of functioning. My kid is 11 now, and watching him navigate the world has made me realize that I wasn't imagining unfairness around me; it's real. A recent example: several times a year, he flies as an unaccompanied minor, and at 11 years of age, he's still treated like he's 4. He is required to stay with a airline representative at all times, who may not want to do the same things in the terminal that he wishes to do. He has to sit in the back of the plane. He has to deplane last. It's bizarre and infantilizing, and seems to be based on litigation aversion and not any actual safety impetus. One of his favorite activities recently has been using LLM agents to mod classic video games, and he's gotten quite good at it. Are we about to force the internet to infantilize our children instead of acknowledging the information age as their birthright?
- beeforpork 15d agoYoti? Is there anything useful to read about the security and privacy architecture?
- blurbleblurble 15d agoThey should have waited until after they fixed Opus to do this.
- mcmcmc 15d agoCool, I’ll be cancelling my plan and demanding a prorated refund.
- shevy-java 15d agoStill not interested in it.
- United857 15d agoI wonder why this isn't a problem for OpenAI, Google, Meta or SpaceX (they allow users 13 years or older with parental permission)
- TellHN11 15d agoMy teen calls it “Anslopic”, says he’s never used it anyway
- PeterStuer 15d agoNo AI assisted learning for you kiddo! But do not despair, we offer you a 10% discount coupon on your purchase of your teacher's 2026 edition textbook saving you $25! Just scan your eyeball here for future discounts and enter "ILoveClaude" at checkout.
- dbg31415 15d agoThis feels like more government surveillance. Fitting way to commemorate 9/11. =P
- VCFundedGenYer 15d agoUseless and pointless measure. you could even ask Claude how to bypass this.
- xacky 15d agoThis will mean the next generation will grow up with open source AI. High schools and junior colleges offering computer courses will have to give their students different coding tools than the industry standard.
- ghostpepper 15d agoOr the industry standard will change
- Aurornis 15d agoOr they will use OpenAI, which allows guardians to complete age verification and enable work for kids age 13 to 17. Anthropic will likely open up, too. Right now both companies have more than enough demand and don't want to risk any journalists trying to do another "think of the children" panic.
- mpalmer 14d agoGood, the less capable they are, the more students will actually have to learn.
- sajithdilshan 14d agoWhile they are at it maybe should learn to count with an abacus and send letters via pigeons
- Dylan16807 14d agoThose sound like perfectly good things to learn. Mental math and handling animals.
- sajithdilshan 14d agoFor a medieval child
- Marsymars 14d agoYeah, there's the obvious analogy here to physical automation methods and tools. Kids don't go to gym class to determine who can stack crates most effectively with a forklift.
- moneycantbuy 15d agoIs this related to SB-1119 Companion chatbots: children’s safety?
- kikoreis 15d agoWow, I realized today this is pretty crazy. but turns out it's old news, as old as Dec 2025, though the support page was only linked to in Jan 2026. https://web.archive.org/web/20251223014541/https://support.claude.com/en/articles/13117299-minimum-age-requirement-access-restriction https://web.archive.org/web/20251223014541/https://support.c... https://www.anthropic.com/news/protecting-well-being-of-users https://www.anthropic.com/news/protecting-well-being-of-user... The ToS already prohibited it when it showed up back in Feb 2024: https://web.archive.org/web/20240225205440/ https://web.archive.org/web/20240225205440/
- consumer451 14d agoYeah, I don't understand why the title does not say (2024).
- tqi 15d agoHow does this work for the innumerable products out there just thin wrappers around claude?
- kelvinjps10 15d agoGood I already canceled my antrhopic subscription. Switched to chatgpt and openrouter credits and my experience is so much better. If openai does the same it will be just openrouter.
- wewewedxfgdf 15d agoThey are doing everything they can to push us to local LLMs.
- jmspring 15d agoSo will this happen with existing accounts? I'm ratcheting back from Pro as it is.
- dznodes 15d ago"We have safety systems in place to detect if people under 18 may be using Claude and we’ll disable accounts based on indicators of minor activity. "... so how is Musk supposed to make vulgar memes with Claude? Wouldn't it get flagged as teenage humor?
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- bradgessler 14d agoI'm sure KYC is next.
- anonreeeeplor 14d ago[dead]
- abustamam 14d ago> Yoti is an independently audited age verification provider for SOC2 compliance. I worked for a consulting firm and I needed a client to get SOC2 compliant. The way we did it was scarily easy. It was like a self questionnaire that was like "we dont log PII" and other stuff like that. I could have lied and said yes to everything and still got compliant. I thought I was gonna have a meeting with someone to audit my answers and codebase but instead I got a shiny badge after about an hour of answering questions. Anyway, there are many SOC2 compliant companies that get pwnd so this isnt really reassuring in itself.
- uda 14d agoAnthropic is lying to its shareholders, customers, auditors, the government, or some combination of that. Yoti is in the same position. There is no way to actually verify the age given those documents without either gaining access to an official database, which would be a breach of law in most cases. Or collecting illegal data to corroborate the provided data, which is also illegal. The other option, is that they aren't verifying the age, they are heuristically determining the provided document's authenticity and that it wasn't tampered with. In the most optimistic scenario, all of the above still grants no verification of the user's age, only the ability of someone to access both the physical device used to access the account and a document that shows a claim of someone to be over the age of 18. Expecting us to provide government issued documents and trust an industry that has shown time and again its careless attitude towards privacy, is stupid and malicious (Well, Hanlon, sometimes it is both)
- keel-control 14d agoWhy don't we have privacy respecting ZKP Age IDs yet (at least in the EU)? Could someone tell me what the hold up is. I wish I could paste this as a prompt into a Codex Swarm and have it solve the government... At least that would have more immediate impacts that the naiver stokes equations
- dakolli 14d agoZKPs would defeat the purpose of age verification, the point being to track your activity online so governments can do precrime and make sure no group can ever use technology to organize and challenge existing power structures so this will never happen. Should be a thing stores sell for $5.00 or whatever, show your ID (not scanned) get a code you can use to verify. This obviously has flaws, but the point of age verification isnt to protect kids, the world is ran by literal pedophiles.
- octoberfranklin 14d agoAI KYC.
- dontreact 14d agoSurprised to see that something many people are clamoring for (age verification for social media and ai usage) in many countries (eg Australia passed into law) for a good reason (studies showing the negative impact to teen mental health) is seen as only possibly due to some nefarious desire.
- left-struck 14d agoIf you think about the history of abuse wrought upon the public by tech companies in regards to personal information, then the reaction really isn’t that surprising. Are you really surprised that people are suspicious? Really?
- aadyachinubhai 14d agogreat, save the next generation from cognitive decline
- padolsey 14d agoYet they are happy for Claude API endpoints to be used if your product is served to U18s. Don't be mistaken: this is a liability thing for Anthropic, not an ethical stance on model safety.
- darkteflon 14d agoWell, I’m not doing this, so if they push ahead and I’m made to do it for whatever reason, they’ll lose at least one $200/month sub.
- aucisson_masque 14d ago> Your selfie, document images, and any personal data are deleted by Yoti as soon as your age is checked. How much of that is true. Did anthropic put it in a legally binding document? not just a website.
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- BiteCode_dev 14d agoTeens don't pay for tokens.
- taikon 14d agoLooks like they're using Yoti for identity verification, which just got fined $1 mil for biometric data protection violations. https://www.biometricupdate.com/202603/spains-aepd-fines-yoti-1-1m-for-biometric-data-handling-violations https://www.biometricupdate.com/202603/spains-aepd-fines-yot...
- run-good-code 14d agoWhat is this Claude? Is it the same as Claude Code?
- therealpygon 14d ago> only available to people over 18 years And terrorists. And hostile foreign powers. But at least we’ve protected Timmy from being curious, which is always what is most important.
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