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“Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server
- petepete 7mo agoWhy is Microsoft using Discord and not Teams?
- Maken 7mo agoWhy would anyone use Teams?
- DrBazza 7mo agoBecause it comes 'free' with an Office365 subscription. Embrace (<<you are here), extend, extinguish. It's usually 'management'. The same management that won't pay for developer tools (including Slack) because 'why do you need that when you can do 95% of your work in VSCode?' It's also usually the same sort of management that can do 95% of their documents in... VSCode and markdown. Or LibreOffice.
- kibwen 7mo agoMicrosoft products are only free if your time has no value.
- jimnotgym 7mo agoHaving been in the position, on a corporate Active Directory network it very much easier to roll out Teams than anything else. It works fine at the kind of internal video calls that companies spend their days on.
- wolvoleo 7mo agoYeah or 80% even so they can sound cool and quote the pateto principle. Which isn't meant as an excuse to not bother to do the 20% at all but they use it as such.
- samgranieri 7mo agoI am for my day job. I still mourn slack and gsuite.
- Configure0251 7mo agoI don't think M$ does much dogfooding. The kinds of issues I encounter being forced to use their pan-awfuly for work makes me very skeptical of this idea.
- yxhuvud 7mo agoIt is fairly ok for meetings and calendar integration. It is dogshit at chatting, however.
- gspr 7mo ago> It is fairly ok for meetings … when it works. And if you never have to change camera or microphone settings. > and calendar integration. The little notification that pops up telling you your meeting is about to start based on your calendar? The one you better not click in the first 5 or so seconds it's there, because then you'll end up with an error message that tells you absolutely nothing, have to go back to the chat, and try again? No, it's not usable. For anything.
- Hamuko 7mo agoDogfooding only works when the dog food is edible.
- dessimus 7mo agoSo non-employees join and provide free support to other users without having to pay them.
- cardiffspaceman 7mo agoStarting in the CompuServe era, and ending in about 2001, I was a voluntary member of the MVPs for Windows programming. You would get swag, including a full MSDN subscription. My reason for joining this and for otherwise posting hopefully helpfully on forums was to lower the barrier to Windows programming. I was idle vis-à-vis this by about 1999, and was excluded from the benefits as a result. Then I posted on several threads within rec.autos.bmw and I got an extra year or two of benefits.
- upmind 7mo agoDiscord really needs some enterprise plan. I've been saying this for years, they can take down slack.
- withinboredom 7mo agoDiscord is owned by Microsoft IIRC.
- Hamuko 7mo agoIt's not. It's an independent company, that's most likely going to IPO soon. Microsoft was reported to be in talks to acquire Discord at some point, but that never materialised.
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- yoyohello13 7mo agoMicrosoft employees largely use Macs, so no surprise.
- jeltz 7mo agoAll Microsoft employees I know either run Linux or Mac.
- hinkley 7mo agoSame reason MS used a Perforce fork instead of Source Safe. Because the dogfood tastes terrible. One of the executives at the late, great, Sun Microsystems once dunked hard on Microsoft by saying, "At Sun we don't make dogfood. We prefer to refer to it as, 'flying our own airplanes.'"
- jinxmeta 7mo agoidiots
- jjgreen 7mo agoMicro$lop then.
- raxxorraxor 7mo agoWas hitting too close to home it seems... But to be fair, corporate discords have to be like that. Why not create your own channel with your colleagues instead? This discussion would be "private" and corporate can just ignore it.
- blitzar 7mo ago> create your own channel with your colleagues instead Dont even think about it ... it will be private till it isnt then, it will be the reason you are fired. Its corpo world - shut your mouth and dont put anything on a permanent record you dont have to.
- oytis 7mo agoLike, why have a public discussion if we can have a private one? Public discussions are important, especially as AI is largely a political project
- p-t 7mo agoi'd argue a discord is never really "public", since there's still a barrier to entering and it's easy to get banned
- criddell 7mo agoIf I were to bet on what would get a Microsoft Discord server shut down, I would have put money on discussions of the ties between Microsoft executives and Epstein. They should be happy if the worst thing that's happening is a mildly deragatory nickname.
- blell 7mo agoWow, so someone opened a discord server for a community and banned an insulting word for the community? This must be a first.
- Gualdrapo 7mo agoIs "Microslop" really insulting, though?
- windowliker 7mo agoIt's insulting to good, honest slop.
- Manfred 7mo agoWhy wouldn’t it be? It’s a mean derivation of their company name.
- 4gotunameagain 7mo agoIt would be mean if they weren't actually vibecoding copilot & md into notepad, introducing an RCE vulnerability. In notepad.
- TOMDM 7mo agoWhy get yourself twisted like this? They can do a bad thing, and then you can make fun of it with an insult. Own it, the insult is warranted, why hide and pretend it's not an insult. If Microsoft is consistently shipping slop, then they deserve insults over it; not every "bad" thing is always unwarranted. Locking someone in a box is "bad", prison is a necessary thing that benefits society. Insults are "bad" and sometimes warranted.
- FpUser 7mo agoThey did not rewrite Notepad in Rust? Seems to be an easy target
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- lpcvoid 7mo agoMicroslop doing Microslop things
- wormpilled 7mo agoIDK what's funnier/more pathetic, them doing this or an entire article getting written about it. MicroslopSlop
- Joel_Mckay 7mo ago...the AI agent sock-puppets pushing false positive narratives about MicroslopSlopSlop, and trolling anyone that disagrees =3 "Bad Bot Problem" (Computerphile) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjQNDCYL5Rg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjQNDCYL5Rg
- JasonADrury 7mo ago> them doing this Wouldn't any community that wants to encourage good quality conversations immediately ban everyone posting stupid slashdot-esque jokes like this?
- crote 7mo agoYou can't build a community if you ban everything except soulless corporate dronespeak. Nobody would ever be interested in joining it without getting paid for it. That's a business meeting, not a community.
- JasonADrury 7mo agoBanning slashdot-esque nonsense is not banning "everything except soulless corporate dronespeak"
- bigfishrunning 7mo agoBut if they want to get rid of "slashdot-esque nonsense", they should behave in a way that doesn't encourage it. The fact that the jokes are cringe and played-out is beside the point; this isn't going to change anyone's attitude.
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- SanjayMehta 7mo agoso this exists: microslop.com
- _imnothere 7mo agoOk, Microslop
- ralferoo 7mo agoHehe, this reminds me of 30 years ago when people used to stylise it as Micro$oft or creatively misspell it as Microshaft, etc. Even on the Amiga, there was the filesystem that could read PC format disks that was called MessyDos. It just seems like the next generation has discovered what an easy name it is to make puns from.
- st_goliath 7mo agoIf you're German-speaking: "Klopilot" and "Vibrierkot" are some modern day personal favorites. On a similar, nostalgic note, I recall boot screens for "Sinnlos 98" floating around, back when modifying the bootup logo was a thing.
- adornKey 7mo ago"Der Ätsch-Browser".
- aleph_minus_one 7mo agoRelevant cultural context from Germany: In Germany, there exists a popular children's game named "Das verrückte Labyrinth" (in English it's simply named "Labyrinth": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_(board_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_(board_game) ). When you get a corner-shaped card (in German: "Eckkarte") > https://boardgamegeek.com/image/155268/labyrinth https://boardgamegeek.com/image/155268/labyrinth from the turn of the previous player, your intended move will typically be more complicated to visualize (at least for children) - this is what this game is about - so children tended to name a "Eckkarte" an "Ätschkarte".
- adornKey 7mo agoMaybe that game exists, but it's an old word and you can find references for it that are hundreds of years old. Its meaning fits to the browser. Your statement that it's just some kind of reference to some special game is not correct.
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- ppap3 7mo agoI don't take this lightly. These are the folks who are doing what they can to be part of the government. They simply cannot take criticism and this seems to be a pattern moving forward.
- hwers 7mo agoThe default of making a public discord for your project/company always seemed like a bad idea anyway. It’ll always devolve into some drama or distracting overhead to moderate it
- lloydatkinson 7mo agoDiscord/Reddit moderators living up to their obnoxious stereotype as usual.
- marcyb5st 7mo agoI don't know for certain, but moderators (on a company Discord) are likely random people in a 3rd world country that are payed peanuts and that is their only income. If higher ups tell them "I don't want to see the Microslop word anywhere" they just do it. You should be angry at the higher ups that instead of saying: "maybe they are right and we can do better" they decided to hide the problem through censorship. Which, btw, always has the opposite effect of putting what you are trying to hide in the spotlight.
- JasonADrury 7mo agoSpamming "microslop" is obnoxious, filtering out childish behaviour is not obnoxious. But if you don't want childish behaviour, Discord is an ... interesting choice.
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- calgoo 7mo agoHateful speech, really? If we called it Micro$hit maybe.... but if they are going to be buthurt because a bunch of gamers and sysadmins are annoyed at the horrific direction the company is taking, then they deserve it.
- Havoc 7mo agoDon’t they have better things to do? Maybe vibecode a taskbar that moves when you try to move away the mouse over it or perhaps a windows 12 installation procedure that requires a fecal sample and iris scan?
- hax0ron3 7mo agoThe next Windows should run entirely in the cloud and the user's computer should simply show a video feed of the UX that the cloud generates.
- wolvoleo 7mo agoThey already sell that for business yes. It's called windows 365.
- orwin 7mo agoI can really see them ship the first, that's at the same time very funny, and quite sad.
- __s 7mo agofirst one is a really slick tooltip ui to make sure people read tooltips. hover over button, it slides out while revealing tooltip text in its place, move cursor to button again if you want to make sure people read a lot of instructions you can chain this so that you need to hover over the button multiple times, revealing the instructions a bit at a time
- xattt 7mo ago“Your sample was insufficient. Please try again later.”
- SSLy 7mo ago"please drink the verification can"
- quadruple 7mo agoWhat community is there to house around Microsoft Copilot? Seriously, why does Microsoft Copilot need a Discord Server? What do I talk about when I join the Microsoft Copilot server? What are we doing here?
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- xmcqdpt2 7mo agoMaybe all the users are OpenClaw instances?
- TheAceOfHearts 7mo agoI'd imagine that there's some discussion about how to make the most out of the tool as well as discussion of experiments and capabilities. I'm not even sure what exactly "Microsoft Copilot" entails anymore because of the multiple rebrands, but having a place where you can discuss exploring plugins and other adjacent features seems useful. Not quite the same, but recently I was recently looking around for communities centered around Claude Code for discussion about people's workflows as well as discussion about what plugins people are using and if they notice it making a significant difference. Since the technology is still evolving, having an active community can help you discover new patterns and explore the space more effectively.
- avhception 7mo ago> [...] I'm not even sure what exactly "Microsoft Copilot" entails anymore [...] Watching from the sidelines (not a Microsoft user), I've completely lost track. Between this, the Azure 365 cloud whatever stuff, I have no idea what many of the products even exactly are any more.
- pixl97 7mo agoSimply put Microsoft is the worst company at naming stuff. Even when they come up with a good name for something, they'll name 3 other totally different products the same thing to maximize confusion.
- elcapitan 7mo agoMicrostreisand?
- tartoran 7mo agoI propose we refer to them as Microslop from now on.
- lunias 7mo agoTells you a lot about where their focus is at as a company.
- Zigurd 7mo agoIt's kind of interesting that Microsoft is deemphasizing if not exiting making products for individuals to decide to buy. Contrast that with Google, who have to actively cultivate individual customers in order to have a large and reliable audience for ad based monetization of search, maps, and other free at the point of use products. There are good and understandable reasons to not want to be in the games business. Game studios are frequently a hot bed of sexual predation and just horrifyingly bad management in general. But it's a business with a large customer base that wouldn't be customers otherwise. Microsoft has spent tens of billions of dollars acquiring game studios and their IP. They're going to have to make a decision to cultivate growth in that business or sell it for whatever they can get for it. Neither of those choices will be easy to execute well.
- nephihaha 7mo agoSuppressing dissent? Par for the course for them and their WEFfer mates.
- rrgok 7mo ago365Slop all day every day all around
- tpoacher 7mo agoMicroslop. Has a nice ring to it. Thank you Streisand effect!
- lovegrenoble 7mo agoMicro$oft
- fredgrott 7mo agoremember when they sued a HS student Mike Rowe for his microrowesoft website?
- JasonADrury 7mo agoMost discord users are children, more news at 11
- nitinreddy88 7mo ago[flagged]
- kichimi 7mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html >Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.
- bilekas 7mo agoSo this is the company pushing to be an integral part of everyone's lives, forcing it down everyone's throat without consent. And they're already moderation a light hearted joke about their low quality products. Doesn't really bode well for the future product Vision.
- nephihaha 7mo agoIt's a monopoly. Unless you are a wealthy hipster with money to burn on Apple products. (They also spy on you.)
- direwolf20 7mo agoA monopoly on what? The most popular OS is from Google.
- FartyMcFarter 7mo agoWindows 11 is definitely failing in weird ways for me, I don't know if it's due to slop. The latest example is that I can't launch Notepad via the start menu... I can launch other apps though.
- snarfy 7mo agoEnshitification doesn't roll off the tongue quite the same way. You have 10,000 systems all each interacting at a 90% success rate when it needs to be 99.999%. They fired all the SDETs 11 years ago. It's catching up with them.
- itintheory 7mo agoI have this problem with calc.exe. Sometimes it'll launch from the start menu, but often won't. I pinned it to the taskbar, but muscle memory is a powerful force, so I usually try to launch it from the start menu first.
- patrulek 7mo agoI would be angry too. Its definitely not that micro.
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- froh42 7mo agoI'm sad that "Klopilot" only works in German. "Hello, copilot, do you create slop? -> Skibidi slop slop slop aiiiiiii"
- stephc_int13 7mo agoThey are back in their villain arc. For a while now.
- RGamma 7mo agoVillain? More like geriatric.
- mpalmer 7mo agoOur vocabulary is so stunted. Has no one else noticed that we increasingly talk about the world like it's fiction playing out in front of us?
- kibwen 7mo agoIt's not a vocab problem. It's inherent to the human brain, which appears to be fundamentally designed to prefer to view the world in terms of stories, with heroes, villains, and a narrative arc.
- jfyi 7mo agoIs it though? Or are we simply in an environment that is heavily skewed toward "Great Person" theory narratives?
- kibwen 7mo agoThis isn't a new thing. Ancient stories like the Iliad or the Odyssey are discreetly historical records of a particular region mixed in with mythological foundations of a particular culture, but framed as the stories of Achilles ("Sing, O goddess, the anger of Achilles son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans.") and Odysseus ("Speak, memory, of the cunning hero, the wanderer, blown off course time and again after he plundered Troy's sacred heights."). Likewise, ancient fables and parables are moral lessons couched in terms of stories with protagonists whose actions demonstrate the intended lesson, and this sort of thing is universal across every ancient culture for which we have records. Stories stick in the human mind, and they're what humans most prioritize transmitting forward through time.
- BLKNSLVR 7mo agoI think we've found the 2026 word of the year already! Let's get it out there and make this happen!
- jimnotgym 7mo agoThis is why 2026 will be The Year of the Linux Desktop
- mghackerlady 7mo agoLets go further, year of the Hurd desktop!
- isodev 7mo agoThis just means I'm going to say microslop in random places - documents, slides, emails and Teams chats. "Copilot 365" is welcome to give me a red squigly all it wants.
- tredre3 7mo agoFeel free to say microslop as much as possible, but it should be noted that many people will automatically dismiss your opinion when you do. I don't know if I agree with doing so or not, but it is more common than you'd think. And no, they aren't just microsoft shills.
- grayhatter 7mo agoI however will understand that he's frustrated with being disrespected by software and/or companies. And will be more likely to respect his opinion. For most people the point is to be respected by people who's opinion you value. Which is often distinctly different from the opinion of genpop.
- ninju 7mo agoDon't they allow you to "Add to Dictionary" anymore :)
- AvAn12 7mo agoSloppy.
- boringg 7mo agoIs Micro$$lop banned?
- mythz 7mo agoYeah ban the use of a catchy catch-phrase as you continue to shove AI down your user-base - that'll work. Streisand would be proud.
- MarleTangible 7mo agoMost HN readers would now, but in the case somebody new reads it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect > The Streisand effect describes a situation where an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information results in the unintended consequence of the effort instead increasing public awareness of the information.
- hinkley 7mo agoBAHBOORAAAAAAH
- rhajsOqi 7mo agoWhat will Elon's "Macrohard" company be called? "Macroheil"?
- booleandilemma 7mo agoIs Micro$lop also banned?
- throwaway85825 7mo agoAI valuation is based on vibes not fundamentals. If the vibes are bad it could tank valuations. That's why theyre so sensitive.
- merlindru 7mo agobut they make the vibes much worse by doing stuff like this
- zamalek 7mo agoApparently the number of people familiar with the Streisand Effect is vanishingly small.
- throwaway85825 7mo agoYou only hear about the times when suppression doesnt work.
- shafyy 7mo agoI am currently re-watching the HBO comedy show Silicon Valley, and oh man, is it hitting even harder this time than when it was originally released.
- aurizon 7mo agoThat's a 'snatch defeat from the jaws of victory moment'
- merlindru 7mo agolmfao > Microsoft's brand image may already be at an all-time low and they decide to make it even worse. it's extremely obvious this would be an objectively terrible PR move. you always take banter on the chin and show that you're working on improving the product. instead, they try to clamp down on the banter, which, without fail, achieves the exact opposite: banter increases tenfold and you get ridiculed for being overly sensitive to actual criticism
- izzydata 7mo agoMicrosoft, can you please let me remove recommendations from the start menu? Not just less recommendations. I want the category to not be displayed and taking up space.
- Gracana 7mo agoThat's hilarious, I didn't realize you couldn't turn it off. I just tried disabling all the recommendation options and it still shows the category, except now instead of recommended items, it says "to show your recent files and apps, turn them on in Settings." This sort of thing used to bother me back when I took Windows seriously.
- xerox13ster 7mo agoIt can be ripped out using regedit, I'm sure. It's been a while since I used Windows as a daily driver, but I did oscillate between W10 and Arch for about half a year, and the Arch mentality creeped into Windows. I ended up adding a context menu to Explorer so I could paste images on my clipboard directly to a the folder I had open. I had to create keys in the Explorer portions of the registry. If I could do that, I'm sure you can root around in the Start Menu parts of the registry and rip it out.
- izzydata 7mo agoI know I can because I've done it on my home machine, but my work computer is restricted by IT. I can't open regedit or install most software unfortunately.
- xerox13ster 7mo agoYeah I asked my director if I could rip out the shell and replace it with X Server running in WSL2 and he said it would make the IT people very upset.
- 1718627440 7mo agoIf you use an X Server and environment to launch programs inside WSL2, what part produced by Microsoft is still providing some value to that setup? Wouldn't you just exec ELF programs to be run on top of the Linux kernel and Windows would be just some useless abstraction layer between the Linux kernel and the hardware? Or would you still use some actual Windows programs? How would that work with the X Server?
- fishgoesblub 7mo agoPersonally I think 2000s Micro$oft would be disappointed that 2026 Microslop is hosting user communities on a 3rd party platform owned other another company rather than using their own competitor.
- itwillnotbeasy 7mo agoI wonder what is Apple equivalent for this term
- exegete 7mo agoSlopple
- connorgurney 7mo agoCrapple, probably.
- chewz 7mo agoSiri
- grayhatter 7mo agoSomeone needs to edit this title to change the first word to MicroSlop I've never called them MircoSlop before, I haven't even written the word. But it's now my exclusive word for the company. All I can hear is, it's working.
- CodeCompost 7mo agoMay I coin the term "Slopware"?
- RoyTyrell 7mo agoMS has some snowflake (not Snowflake) execs... Poor little management, they need their safe space from a mean old word.
- _bypa 7mo agohttps://microslop.com/ https://microslop.com/
- bombela 7mo agoThe header takes half the page. It's very annoying, and as such not really funny.
- pinkmuffinere 7mo agoIt would be better if it just showed the ms home page
- allthetime 7mo agoIf by half you mean 10%, then, yes.
- _bypa 7mo agoOn mobile it's more than half.
- hinkley 7mo agomicrosoft.com's header also takes up half the page.
- teekert 7mo agoBefore this article I'd have thought that Microslop was used to designate small snippets of AI slop, like "Let that sync in" or "And to be honest" and "It's not X, it's Y" and "Deepdive" and "Delve". But nice to see that MS is Streisanding their way to a nice new nickname! What were the sloperators of that channel thinking? In any case, it should be Micro$lop (may not be banned...yet).
- gverrilla 7mo agolmao
- altern8 7mo agoMicroslop can't get one right. What is it with them these days..?
- some_furry 7mo agoI guess I'll have to go out of my way to refer to their shitty product as "Microslop Copilot" then. What are they going to do? Ban me from using their operating system?
- nephihaha 7mo agoMicroslop Coprolite.
- semi-extrinsic 7mo ago> the software giant can’t risk getting more hatred towards their expensive investment in Copilot, especially since Microsoft’s head start in AI is starting to be overshadowed by competitors like Anthropic, Google, OpenAI, and maybe even Apple in the near future This sentence is from TFA, and I can't for the life of me understand it. "Head start"?? WTF?
- drumttocs8 7mo agoI would honestly be embarrassed to call myself "micro soft" in general. Unless you're into that kind of thing.
- ineedasername 7mo agoOh no, how will people signal that some functionality or product in general is what they'd previously been referring as Mircolosp? er, Microsolps. wait, that's not it either, Macroslop. Micro$lop. Microsplo. Sorry, so many typos! but you know what I mean.
- ratelimitsteve 7mo agothey sincerely think that the primary problem they're facing is one of PR, don't they?
- goku12 7mo agoMicroslop? Hmm... Never heard that before! Meanwhile, I just randomly remembered that I haven't opened a couple of dozen social media accounts in ages. BRB!
- lousken 7mo agoit will take years to fix their broken products, if they ever focus on that
- bigfishrunning 7mo agoThey don't have to, because dispite how incredibly bad they are, people have shown that they don't care. According to the average user, Windows isn't bad, that's just how computers are. They don't care that there's any other way of doing things; the cheapest computer at Best Buy runs windows so that's what every computer must be. Piggies love to eat slop.
- jonshariat 7mo agoAh yes another company disregarding the Streisand effect - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect. No one in my circles said this, now I've heard it twice now through headlines of Microsoft trying to punish or block it. Now I've started saying it too.
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- mikkupikku 7mo agoThe way people react to criticism tells you a lot about how deep your remark cut. Clearly Microsoft people know their stuff is slop and are having a hard time coping with that.
- melonpan7 7mo agoMacroslop
- thayne 7mo agoDoes M$ honestly expect a positive outcome from this? What do they hope to accomplish?
- mk_chan 7mo agoMicrosoft ban any % speedrun soon. Is this what the employees do nowadays while their AI is generating code?
- BrtByte 7mo agoLong term, the real fix isn't moderation rules, it's trust
- oxag3n 7mo agoThank you Microsoft for the The Streisand effect - I've added the "Microslop" to my vocabulary.
- TedDallas 7mo agoMicroslop? Its more like they are taking a Macro-crap.
- aprentic 7mo agoIt's more and more baffling that people use M$FT for anything besides video games.
- throwuxiytayq 7mo agoThese days games run better on Linux, in case anyone didn't know.
- CivBase 7mo agoThe only games I've encountered that don't work on Linux are ones where the developer has intentially designed it that way. Some developers are paranoid about cheaters and one of their solitions is to tell all Linux users to kick rocks. Aside from that I've encountered a handfull of games with performance issues on Linux (especially with Intel/Nvidea hardware), but most run just fine. Some technically run better on Linux, but I haven't encountered any where the difference was perceptable to me.
- compiler-guy 7mo agoThere is only one problem with the term "microslop" coming out of Microsoft. It should be called "macroslop", just after the amount that company is putting out there.
- hluska 7mo agoSeveral hours worth of anal probe jokes on an article that could likely warrant an actual discussion? That was disappointing to read here.
- jajuuka 7mo agoTech feels more filled with hipsters every day. If the story is about any major company or product it's just dunked on for social credits. But anything that is outside that is considered interesting and worth further investigation. It's frustrating me to no end.
- rocketvole 7mo agothis is personal anecdote, but I've noticed that the overall quality of comments has plummeted quite drastically within the last few months. It's a little disappointing since its why I left reddit. Thankfully, the insightful comments are typically still there- just typically buried further down the thread.
- exabrial 7mo agoThe butthurt level is high up in there
- karel-3d 7mo agoMicrosoft has a Discord? Why not Teams?
- locusofself 7mo agoIt kindof sucks waking up every day, checking HN or YouTube to see one or several new posts bashing on your employer. Not that many of them aren't warranted, and that a multi-trillion market cap company isn't fair game for criticism. I've surveyed the market pretty heavily, and given my specific credentials, experience, and risk tolerance, unless I got really lucky, I don't know if I could find a better place to work. I live near Redmond and have a small family to support.
- ghosty141 7mo agoThere can be quite a big difference on the reception of a product and the working conditions. I think that's nothing too out of the ordinary in a lot of cases.
- locusofself 7mo agoIt apparently used to be even much better to work here. I've been here 6 years now. There is naturally a lot of "talent" exchanged between here and Amazon, which has influenced the culture.
- zapzupnz 7mo agoMicrosoft have been bashed on the daily since forever. There's no way you joined the company without knowing it was happening prior to you joining, at the time of you joining, and after you joining.
- locusofself 7mo agoIt's true. As a matter of fact I credit a lot of my career to being made fun of on IRC in the 1990s for running mIRC client for Windows, because you were not "leet" if you didn't run Linux or FreeBSD, which took my down a huge rabbit-hole of Linux and coding for many years, which is how I know anything in the first place. I'm in the tiny minority of people in big tech who didn't go to college. The bashing on MSFT has really ramped up in the last 6 months though
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- arendtio 7mo agoMy big issue with Microsoft's AI push is that its solutions are just bad. I tried using Copilot a couple of times, and when it worked, the results were low quality (not even mediocre). And the problem is not that the AI models can't do any better. The models themselves are far more capable. I assume that their integrations are just horrible. They probably pushed to be the first and then forgot about optimizing. And instead of fixing their stuff, they think it is a good idea to use moderation tools...
- sharyphil 7mo agoSlopya Nutella (is that banned?)
- natas 7mo agoI recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her perspective was that consumer-facing products are not the primary revenue drivers and, therefore, are not central to executive priorities. While this may not be surprising to some, what stood out to me was how emphatically she underscored that the company’s strategic focus is squarely on enterprise customers rather than end users. That said, this business model has historically proven effective for companies such as IBM. Microsoft allocates its resources toward segments that offer meaningful revenue growth.
- medi8r 7mo agoFoolish since a world where no one uses Windows at home will ve damaging for enterprise long term.
- x0x0 7mo agoI think they (and even Apple) are going to get a walloping from mostly ceding the education market to chromebooks. Kids are growing up using them.
- matthewfcarlson 7mo agoIt's interesting to me as well as an ex-microsofter who worked on surface devices. Leadership (at least below the VP level) knew they were getting killed by Chromebooks and tried a few times to get a low cost device (Surface Go 1/2 for example) that ran a slimmed down version of windows (Windows S?). It tries to be more like chrome OS (hard to mess up, easy to flatten and restore a fresh OS on) but kind of just throws away the things you would pick windows for in the first place (legacy app compatibility) to be not bad at the thing Chromebooks are good at. That said, I don't believe the Chromebook lock-in. It's just chrome and the web, which you can get on literally almost every laptop/pc sold today. Should Microsoft be concerned that you don't need windows as more and more things move onto the web? Absolutely. They should be doubling down hard on the gaming ecosystem (which atm still requires windows for certain games) as their hold is eroding week by week.
- josefritzishere 7mo agoThe irony is thick today. HN flagged a microslop post this morning.
- goldylochness 7mo agosome might view it as an impossible goal, but if they enabled humor they would become more popular
- shevy-java 7mo agoThat is actually hilarious. Microsoft does not understand the Barbara Streisand effect. I did use microslop before, simply because it makes sense, irrespective of Microsoft - but now I'll actually help the Barbara Streisand effect, because clearly Microsoft WANTS everyone to learn the new word! Censorship gets counter-banned, Microsoft, company known to have turned Win11 into Win-microslop.
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- nzxt210 7mo agoThis good
- mig39 7mo agoWhy are they using Discord instead of Teams? Is this an internal Microsoft group? They don't dogfood?
- JohnMakin 7mo agoClassic Streisand effect - I had never, and probably would have never encountered this term, and now I have, and I am incorporating it into my vocabulary. Why listen to user feedback when you can do stuff like this? Way too funny.
- hinkley 7mo agoNot a company well known for listening to user feedback.
- matheusmoreira 7mo agoI too will incorporate Microslop into my vocabulary. Not even a week ago I was posting here on HN about Microslop's new calculator which somehow takes 17 seconds to fully open on my work machine while the old notepad program opens instantly. How is it even possible to produce slop this bad? Best part of it is the fact it's open source: if you complain about it some 200kUSD/year Microslop employee will come and tell you to open a pull request.
- chrisco23 7mo agoI thought they were named Microsloth. Making products like Windoze and Winblows.
- howdyhowdy123 7mo agoSo... what's a good Linux distro comparison site? Just asking for a friend.
- aussieguy1234 7mo agoGood thing there's no Linuxslop in Linux...
- mediumsmart 7mo agoalmost as good as shopifake
- w4rh4wk5 7mo agoLet's use Slopilot in the meantime.
- oriel 7mo agoI want to be constructive here, but I just cant. So I'm saying the one word in my head: > Macroplop
- StacyRawls 7mo ago[dead]