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Average DRAM price in USD over last 18 months
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- ggm 10mo agothe other side of the AI bubble are a huge amount of 2nd hand parts of all kinds going to come onto the market?
- mxfh 10mo agoWaiting for all my out of use 4, 8, and 16GB DDR3 DIMMs that I have somewhere in a drawer to become the new gold standard first.
- willis936 10mo agoI'm finding that getting an LGA socket to give me two reliable memory channels is far more valuable than the sticks that go into them. I've got at least two motherboards in use at my home right now with only one working channel of memory. There are sticks just sitting around.
- bhaney 10mo agoMy pile of worthless 512MB DDR1 sticks has bad news for you
- venturecruelty 10mo agoNo, they'll be shipped off to developing nations to be dissolved for rare earths for the next boom cycle.
- kragen 10mo agoMemory chips don't contain rare earths, and e-waste recyclers pay a tiny fraction of what used-hardware buyers do.
- venturecruelty 10mo agoMy point was not to litigate the precise method of e-waste disposal.
- kragen 10mo agoYour point was to post nonsense without caring about whether it was true or false in order to troll someone into responding. Please don't do that again.
- venturecruelty 10mo agoAnd your point was to nitpick a rhetorical statement and miss the point entirely. Feel free to disengage.
- kragen 10mo agoI don't think you should comment on this site again if you aren't willing to comment in good faith. I pointed out that your original statement was completely false, and rather than thanking me for the correction, you responded defensively and then attacked me. This shows that you don't care whether what you posted was true or not. That's corrosive to the presumption of good faith we employ here. If you aren't willing to behave properly, you shouldn't be here.
- type0 10mo agoMemory chips are divertied to registered server RAM and those will not fit most workstations
- bpye 10mo agoNothing stops you building an EPYC based workstation. For the last socket you could even get mATX boards from Asrock Rack which were kind of ridiculous - I was very tempted to build my PC around one.
- magarnicle 10mo agoAll in a pretty bad state of wear, I imagine.
- bpye 10mo agoAt least with ECC memory it's very obvious when its failing as you'll see reported correctable errors.
- swatcoder 10mo agoA lot of the goods won't be essily repurposible for consumer or small business work loads. Imagine if auto manufacturers all refitted their factories and supply chains to produce military vehicles for a war effort. New family cars would run dry, and when the war ended, some folks would figure out make clever use of some surplus military vehicles for street travel and commerce, but most of the surplus would just be shifted to other military markets and family car production would take some time to resume.
- snek_case 10mo agoYou can buy old rackmount servers on ebay for relatively cheap and used them as desktop PCs AFAIK (though they can be on the noisier side).
- hypercube33 10mo agoAliExpress has been selling 2010 or whatever Intel xeons in dual socket desktop board kits for gaming. they are fairly affordable and hold up to almost modern games so people that can't afford new gen systems.
- deltoidmaximus 10mo agoThese products are fascinating. When I looked at them it seemed like they pulled old chipsets from server boards or maybe they found stock somewhere and then combined them with south bridges from things like Z77 boards. All to make use of obsolete server CPUs that were cheap and available. Amazing and wonderful. Meanwhile you've got OpenAI buying up all the DRAM and maybe just piling it in a warehouse so no one else can have it or they figure out what to do with it. Microsoft recently said they don't even have a power source to plug the ton of GPUs they just bought into so they're also just sitting around collecting dust. What is even happening?
- edm0nd 10mo agoI would snag up every possible H100 and H200 if the AI bubble burst and their prices went into steep decline.
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- gblargg 10mo agoUnless it drags on for years so that the parts are old by the time everything gets liquidated.
- Havoc 10mo agoYeah though expecting that to A) take years still and B) the gear will be old AF Bit like you could get NVIDIA Server cards before things went crazy but they’re on ancient cuda etc so not exactly as glorious as one would imagine
- Daishiman 10mo agoInflation metrics seem to fail to capture the increase in leading-edge tech products of the past 18 months.
- tstrimple 10mo agoThey seem to fail to capture a whole lot of things. Supposedly $1 in 2000 is worth $1.88 in 2025. So 88% inflation over the 25 years. Meanwhile the median home price has increased by 150%. Family insurance by 350%. Median college tuition by 225%. Childcare costs have risen by 200%. But sure. We can buy super cheap 65" tvs now. Hurray for us! Literal kings who lived hundreds of years ago couldn't possibly imagine a world with cheap large screen tvs. So the poorest among us should rejoice at the wonders they are able to enjoy while they skip meals and ration their insulin.
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- dvaun 10mo agoWhat a ridiculous statement. We have a massive number of people in the USA relying on financial support for purchasing food. Not every single American is fat, especially those who literally can’t afford to eat.
- Alex2037 10mo agothe reality I observe does not align with your Dickensonian version of it. food is laughably cheap in the US.
- kragen 10mo agoThere are lots of Americans who go hungry, but mostly outside the USA. Starvation deaths inside the USA are almost entirely secondary to medical conditions that interfere with eating.
- mxfh 10mo agoTo put this in long term relation. Even current DDR4 3200 DIMM prices are at an all time high. These are 6+ year old chip specs now! I even thought stuff was overpriced four years ago in mid-2021 already, but this is a whole new level. Some sample long term data for those: https://geizhals.eu/?phist=2151624&age=9999 https://geizhals.eu/?phist=2151624&age=9999
- thescriptkiddie 10mo agoanyone want to buy a 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 kit that only fails memtest86 some of the time?
- krackers 10mo agoI wonder if semi-reliable RAM could be made to work for training. After all gradient descent already works in a stochastic environment, so maybe the noise from a few flipped bits doesn't matter too much.
- deltoidmaximus 10mo agoHave you tried underclocking or loosening the timings?
- kasabali 10mo agomy experience is if even memtest86 fails the memory is truly borked.
- wnevets 10mo agoIf these prices don't return back to normal I just don't see how Valves steam machine is less than $1,000 USD.
- teaearlgraycold 10mo agoThey would already have contracts in place.
- wkat4242 10mo agoFor a while, yes. But I'm sure they will want to sell it for longer than a year or so. Even Samsung is running into this issue now: their own internal foundry is refusing to give them a long term contract now so the S26 series will become more expensive. If this happens to Samsung, what leverage will a player like Valve have?
- pixelfarmer 10mo ago> Even Samsung is running into this issue now [...] These large corpos are so greedy to the point they harm themselves. I remember something similar with Amazon, where the Amazon shop had to redo the whole architecture from some microservice setup back to a monolithic approach because they used AWS and paid these weirdly structured prices like everyone else. Which made running a monolithic architecture under such constraints inherently cheaper. Not sure what the resulting compounded business cost for this "endeavor" was, but more often that not such things are never accounted for, so they don't show up as an issue.
- energy123 10mo agoThat's their costs, not our costs. Regular PCs will cost more, which means Valve can price their consoles higher and collect margin, because there's no other competition/substitutes.
- swatcoder 10mo agoMaybe, but from a platform and brand development perspective, there may be smarter strategies. Their interest isn't necessarily in squeezing out the most margin on each unit. If unexpected market conditions let them more or less hit their original margin targets but get far more units installed in homes, that could be much better for them in the long term. There's a lot we can't know as outsiders, at the moment.
- outside1234 10mo agoStagflation!
- nick49488171 10mo agoApple system config upgrades not looking so bad anymore
- nntwozz 10mo agoCame here looking for this comment. I wonder how much price increase it takes for Apple to raise theirs.
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- shpx 10mo agoOn this graph, the most expensive RAM is $12.5 / GB ($400 for DDR5-6000 2x16GB). Apple charges - $25 / GB ($200 for 8 GB for the M5 MacBook Pro and the M4 MacBook Air) - $16 / GB ($400 for 24 GB for the cheapest M4 Pro MacBook Pro) - $12.5 / GB ($200 for 16 GB and then $800 for 64 GB more for the most expensive M4 Pro and M4 Max MacBook Pros) and Apple's RAM is faster than PC RAM.
- oefrha 10mo agoGuess that’s the flip side of selling sometimes three to four years old hardware with zero price cut (I know they’ve been doing better in the M-series era)—the price also stays there when it’s skyrocketing elsewhere.
- stmw 10mo agoTime for Intel to re-enter the memory market?
- nullify88 10mo agoA possible answer as to why this is happening. https://thememoryguy.com/some-clarity-on-2025s-ddr4-price-surge/ https://thememoryguy.com/some-clarity-on-2025s-ddr4-price-su...
- bilsbie 10mo agoIs he saying the supply of ddr4 went down because they’re switching to ddr5?
- loeg 10mo agoScroll down. The same trend is happening for DDR5 prices. It's AI demand.
- delfinom 10mo agoMore specifically, it's OpenAI quietly contracting away 40% of global DRAM capacity, only to build wafers of memory and shove it in a warehouse. https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/sam-altman-s-dirty-dram-deal https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/sam-altman-s-dirty-dram...
- loeg 10mo agoThey're not the only player trying to buy more RAM. Every hyperscaler is also growing. AWS, MS, Oracle, and Google demand is growing ~100% in 2026. Nvidia demand is growing ~50% in 2026. Supply isn't forecast to improve at all until H2 2026 and it's probably ~all spoken for through at least EOY 2026.
- StrLght 10mo agoThat's from June 2025. It's not relevant to current situation — prices have been rising since October 2025 due to agreements that became public in the same month.
- jakebasile 10mo agoI hate this. PC gaming is my hobby, the only one that’s lasted my whole life. It’s always been there. It’s how I met my wife. It’s how I relax after a long day. It’s how I’ve participated in so many stories that stick with me and given me so many memories. All of it is being murdered by the AI bros. Before them it was the crypto bros. It’s one thing after the other and I hate it so much.
- lupire 10mo agoThere is more than a lifetime of incredibly great PC games that run on your existing hardware, and if this is your life's hobby, then paying an extra $100 or so every year or few is a drop in the bucket of your gaming expenses
- jakebasile 10mo agoI can afford it. Other people cannot, and the hobby is driven by a market existing for games. If newer people don’t enter the hobby as others die out, it fades away.
- edm0nd 10mo agoI mean its pretty rare to buy more RAM after completing your PC build + that single PC is going to last you 5+ years. Also mobos usually only have 4 slots in total so its not like its even going to take a lot. I'm rocking 2x48gb sticks and that's plenty for gaming. The prices are wild tho. I bought that ram in March 2024 for $384.81. Now it's priced at $1,172.99. LOL
- jakebasile 10mo agoIt’s frustrating that it’s been one thing after the other, seemingly aimed directly at the thing I enjoy most.
- Ninjinka 10mo agoIncreased demand for computer components for purposes other than gaming constitutes "AI bros murdering your lifelong hobby"? PC gaming is not "murdered", it's doing better than ever. In 2015 there were 3,000 games released to Steam, last year there were 18,000. In 2015 Steam's peak concurrent user count was 8.6 million. This year it's 41 million. The inflation-adjusted price per gigabyte of RAM has dropped from $3/GB to $2/GB over the last 10 years, even including the recent price hikes. So spare me the hysterics, your hobby is fine. And you know what? The increased demand for compute always spurs innovation, so you'll probably get a better computer in the end as a result. You're welcome.
- jmspring 10mo agoAs I mentioned in a prior post 7/18/2023 - G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 - $253. Today - G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5600 (PC5 44800) Desktop Memory Model F5-5600J3636D32GX2-RS5W - $620. Prices from Newegg.
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- walterbell 10mo agohttps://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/sam-altman-s-dirty-dram-deal https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/sam-altman-s-dirty-dram... On October 1st OpenAI signed two simultaneous deals with Samsung and SK Hynix for 40% of the worlds DRAM supply... the shock wasn’t that OpenAI made a big deal, no, it was that they made two massive deals this big, at the same time, with Samsung and SK Hynix simultaneously! In fact, according to our sources - both companies had no idea how big each other's deal was, nor how close to simultaneous they were. And this secrecy mattered. It mattered a lot. Had Samsung known SK Hynix was about to commit a similar chunk of supply — or vice-versa — the pricing and terms would have likely been different. It’s entirely conceivable they wouldn’t have both agreed to supply such a substantial part of global supply if they had known more...but at the end of the day - OpenAI did succeed in keeping the circles tight, locking down the NDAs, and leveraging the fact that these companies assumed the other wasn’t giving up this much wafer volume simultaneously…in order to make a surgical strike on the global RAM supply chain…and it's worked so far... OpenAI isn’t even bothering to buy finished memory modules! No, their deals are unprecedentedly only for raw wafers — uncut, unfinished, and not even allocated to a specific DRAM standard yet. It’s not even clear if they have decided yet on how or when they will finish them into RAM sticks or HBM! Right now it seems like these wafers will just be stockpiled in warehouses – like a kid who hides the toybox because they’re afraid nobody wants to play with them, and thus selfishly feels nobody but them should get the toys!
- llama052 10mo agoThe cynic in me thinks this would be a convenient way for these memory producers to manufacture demand, while also making OpenAI look good on paper. It’s not like they haven’t been caught price fixing in the past. Win win for these companies and a loss for everyone else.
- walterbell 10mo agoIf manufacturing fake demand (warehousing 900,000 memory wafers per month?) doubles and triples customer prices, it would decrease real demand, hurting the manufacturers after the artificial demand ends.
- zahlman 10mo agoWhat specifically happened in June to set this off? It can't just be "waves hands AI/LLMs" because ChatGPT has existed for years.
- cogman10 10mo ago"Waves hands at AI/LLMs" The problem is that training these models and using these models has required exponentially increasing amounts of memory. ChatGPT has existed for years and in those years it's userbase and model size has increased tremendously. Not to mention the fact that a lot of competitors have sprung up in the wake of GPT. Including the likes of cloud based open model hosting services.
- AdieuToLogic 10mo ago> What specifically happened in June to set this off? Tariffs implemented by this administration: "Inflation has begun to show the first signs of tariff pass-through," said Ellen Zentner, chief economic strategist at Morgan Stanley Wealth Management. "While services inflation continues to moderate, the acceleration in tariff-exposed goods in June is likely the first of greater price pressures to come. The Fed will want to hold steady as it awaits more data."[0] 0 - https://www.reuters.com/business/us-inflation-expected-rise-june-with-tariff-driven-price-hikes-2025-07-15/ https://www.reuters.com/business/us-inflation-expected-rise-...
- IAmGraydon 10mo agoAfraid not. This has not happened across the board to all components.
- AdieuToLogic 10mo ago> Afraid not. This has not happened across the board to all components. Afraid so. Industry impact from tariffs does not require them to be applied "across the board to all components." See here[0] for more information. With erratic massive tariff proclamations, counter-tariffs are to be expected. All it takes for companies to inflate prices is to either: A) be provably impacted by tariffs B) be opportunistic by being "tariff adjacent" The net result is directly or indirectly, the tariffs implemented and/or threatened to be so are a significant contributor to electronic component costs. 0 - https://www.tradecomplianceresourcehub.com/2025/12/03/trump-2-0-tariff-tracker/ https://www.tradecomplianceresourcehub.com/2025/12/03/trump-...
- donohoe 10mo agoWho are the main players that make or benefit from these inflated DRAM prices?
- cubefox 10mo agoMake? The market of course. Benefit? The manufacturers of course.
- didgetmaster 10mo agoI upgraded my pc about this time last year (new CPU, RAM, and motherboard). I was originally going to just get 64GB of DDR5-6000, with the option of adding another 64GB later, thinking the price might drop even further. At the last minute, I decided to get the whole 128GB instead. Glad I did.
- neom 10mo agoFunny how many dot-com esq things are popping up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal
- Aurornis 10mo agoThe big news story this cycle is that OpenAI secured two large contracts with two separate DRAM companies at the same time, carefully timing the deals so that neither DRAM company knew about the deal with other. Had either company known about the true demand from OpenAI they would have charged a lot more, but each only saw about half. In other words, there was no collusion between the DRAM manufacturers. They were both caught off guard and left a lot of money on the table. The current price increase is the result of the huge demand spike. Production takes years to ramp up, but demand has spiked rapidly. Supply and demand.
- pmontra 10mo agoAnd when demand eventually crashes, all the new production capacity is left without buyers to sell to, so maybe it does not even make sense to create it.
- imtringued 10mo agoThere won't be any new production capacity until DDR6 comes out. There is no point in investing into an obsolete technology like DDR5.
- nebula8804 10mo agoChina will happily take that business. They are producing DRAM now arent they?
- amarcheschi 10mo agoYes https://www.techpowerup.com/343185/chinese-cxmt-shows-homegrown-ddr5-8000-and-lpddr5x-10667-memory https://www.techpowerup.com/343185/chinese-cxmt-shows-homegr...
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- somenameforme 10mo agoI don't understand this. I'm looking at prices on some Asian store fronts and it's nowhere even remotely near these. I'm looking at DDR5-6000 2x16 for about $130, with no apparent limits. Even with tariffs, transport, and other fees, you could get this to the US for way less than $400. I doubt the market could be this inefficient - in other words I don't think I just found a get rich quick scheme. So, what gives?
- mondojesus 10mo agoIs it possible they are fakes?
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- cncjchsue7 10mo agoAus stock was cheap a couple of weeks ago, it's caught up though. I'd snatch it up if you need it.
- nodja 10mo agoThe current prices are a response to future stock, not current. It's 100% retailers price gouging with their current stock that they got for cheap because they know there will be limited stock in the near future. Asian retailers may be more honest and keep their margins the same, but will catch up in a month or two.
- zozbot234 10mo agoIt's just surge pricing to manage demand, not "price gouging". Being able to buy RAM at high prices is a lot better than being unable to source it at all because everyone else is panic-hoarding.
- ed 10mo agoWe don’t really know whether that’s true, since it’s hard to prove a negative (i.e., suppliers aren’t colluding). But given their history of price fixing it may be worth looking into.
- lmc 10mo agoI just checked my go-to stores in Europe. Holy shit. I bought a 5200-speed 16GB DDR5 kit in October for 55 eur. Now it's selling for 240 eur. The 6000-speed model is now 390 eur.
- bluescrn 10mo agoStarting to make Apple's RAM upsell prices look competitive...
- omgmajk 10mo agoI just checked our local apple store website and going from 48gb of ram on a M4 MacBook Pro it's 1500€ to get 128gb. Seems about the same :E
- perks_12 10mo agoYou actually get more, for the 1500€ you don't have to mess with sticks yourself. They solder it directly on your mainboard. If that isn't great service, I don't know what is.
- master_crab 10mo agoI don’t know why you are getting downvoted. The sarcasm in the comment is pretty obvious.
- baq 10mo agoI'm not sure if it's sarcasm or not, but either way it's just true
- Semaphor 10mo agoJuly: 172,38 € for a 2x32GB DDR5-6000 kit Best price for the same one now: 689,55 €
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- thelastgallon 10mo agoSo, RAM outperforms stocks, gold, bitcoin, NFTs, real estate?
- baq 10mo agoDDR5 is digital silver
- drewda 10mo agoMaybe this is a "strategic inflection point" for Intel... to get back into the DRAM business?
- zozbot234 10mo agoThey should get back into the Optane business first. Take the existing Optane memory to a modern PCIe 5 bus, and it will be competitive with lots of uses for DRAM. PCIe 5 gives you basically DDR4-like transfer bandwidth, and the Optane media has better latency and far better DWPD endurance than existing NAND SSD's. It's a total no-brainer.
- renewiltord 10mo agoGot real lucky. I was trying to negotiate a guy down on RAM. I wanted a server without as much RAM. In the end, I had to take the 768 GB. It only cost $1k more than 192 GB at the time. Unfortunately I can’t really sell off the excess because I need to substitute down the RAM modules to fill all 12. Ah well.
- wwwlouishinofun 10mo agoIt hasn't been long since this happened The price hasn't been rising all year For d4 it's June, d5 is September so what happens
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- Snoozus 10mo agoMaybe it's time we make a simple web page 100KB again? Is there some kind of CDN minification, adblocking and compression service? Maybe even server side rendering of websites? Then a smartphone would work fine with 1GB of RAM and everyone could be happy.
- Maxion 10mo agoSimple web pages can be made small with modern tooling, e.g. AstroJS. The problem is that most web pages these days fundamentally are not simple. Rather than trying to make web pages small, the real effort would be in designing web pages to be simple. The large majority of software devs, PMs and the like don't really know how to do anything else than a Node + React webapp.
- sksksk 10mo agoI've come to the opinion that for the vast majority of apps I've built, it could all be built using HTML + CSS (all built server side). I can sprinkle in little bits of interactivity using something like HTMX. And I'll have a website that is very easy to optimise, has phenomenal backwards compatibility, and gets rid of a whole class of issues associated with SPAs. I often regret in my career not pushing back more on "requirements" that ended up requiring a more complicated app, whereas the customer would have been happier with a simpler solution.
- altmanaltman 10mo agoI guess you're right, but it's more of a curve, though. Once you get to any decent level of complexity, it actually helps to have a framework instead of just going all HTML+CSS. Also it helps having something standard as react (that every web developer should fundamentally understand) than doing your custom stuff if other people will be working on it in the future. There's a lot to say about the side effects of frameworks but there's a reason why everything converges towards that.
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- mrandish 10mo agoBeen planning to build my daughter a gaming PC for Xmas. Feel lucky I found a pre-built with 32GB RAM in a warehouse store on black Friday that hadn't been marked up yet. First pre-built desktop I've bought in decades and it was actually cheaper than I could build myself due to the crazy RAM prices.
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- tills13 10mo agoWhy is it that consumers always get shafted here and we just keep going on like "it's just business" Why isn't some consumer protection regulator going "actually no, OpenAI, you can't corner the market for the foreseeable future" Hell, make OpenAI pay for this shit up front. You want to corner the market? Put up the money you don't have.
- throwthrow_ 10mo agoI asked ChatGPT if it can generate a bunch of RAM for me. He says this is some kind of famous joke or something. (I’m sorry I couldn’t resist)
- tgsovlerkhgsel 10mo ago"Downloading RAM" is more feasible than people think. The seek time of a consumer-grade hard disk is said to be on the order of 10 ms. That's roughly the latency of a very high quality FTTH connection. Meaning that if you run a HDD rather than an SSD, a swap file in the cloud could potentially be faster than a local one (especially when you consider multiple reads/writes that could be done in parallel). It's not exactly downloading more RAM but decently close to call it that for the joke.
- Tepix 10mo agoYeah, not exactly just 1 million times slower.
- vlabakje90 10mo agoSomeone managed to boot a machine from a file system on Google Drive. https://ersei.net/en/blog/fuse-root https://ersei.net/en/blog/fuse-root
- HenriTEL 10mo agoIncreasing swap is more like adding more HDD. It won't help memory pressure issues.
- rolandog 10mo agoI wonder who the "visionaries" were that set the marked increase trend of max prices near 2024-12-09 for DDR4-3600 2x32GB and DDR4-3600 2x16GB? I think that acted as a dog whistle for the rest of the market signalling there'd be no consequences for ripping other people off. Also relevant: https://youtu.be/B7sB1-8jKno https://youtu.be/B7sB1-8jKno
- Havoc 10mo agoReally hoping this comes down again soonish. My desktop doesn’t have many years left :/
- baq 10mo agoit's a commodity, it'll come down eventually, but soonish? depends completely on if/when AI bubble deflates and datacenter projects get cancelled.
- energy123 10mo ago12-24 months is my best guess. I bought some at inflated prices today at a retailer that failed to update to the latest market price by 15%. I'm not waiting that long only to be faced with a dilemma about waiting even longer for DDR6 to become reasonably priced.
- jl6 10mo agoHow to get every tech enthusiast in the world to root for OpenAI to implode in order to release the RAM hostages.
- shevy-java 10mo agoNot only that - I think OpenAI and all those other AI blobs must pay compensation damage to The People for inflating the prices here and skyrocketing costs.
- shevy-java 10mo agoI think most of us came to the conclusion that the AI hype is heavily responsible for this. I want my money back. There should be an extra-tax on all those AI companies - they are heavily responsible for DRAM costing more now.
- kevin061 10mo agoGPU prices never went down after the crypto rush replaced GPUs with ASICs. I hope this does not repeat with DRAM and AI.
- rjh29 10mo agoI picked up a pretty cheap second-hand GPU after the mining boom ended!
- supermatt 10mo agoWell, I guess one way these AI companies can stop us meeting our needs with local models - make it so we just cant get the hardware to run them...
- yahoozoo2 10mo agoMan, fuck these AI (and crypto) companies causing the rise of prices in GPUs and now memory.
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- christophilus 10mo agoIt’s not clear to me how long the contracts last. The Tom’s Hardware article linked below mentioned “in 2025”, so, do we know if this monopolistic DRAM grab is nearly over or only just beginning?
- merpkz 10mo agoIf things go the way they are, I wonder how long until buying a used Playstation 4 (8GB DDR5 RAM) at around 100USD a piece to put Linux on it and use as a server in cluster will become viable thing to do? Bring back console clusters! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster
- H8crilA 10mo agoOr just remove the RAM and put it in more useful hardware.
- officeplant 10mo ago8GB GDDR5* Ram. Huge difference and one of the reasons the PS4 slapped the Xbox One around.
- greatgib 10mo agoSomehow another sign that our world is collapsing. We have more and more wars, less free trade and international spirit, freedom and privacy is going down the sink, "everything is going down", and now ram is a good example of things that use to be abordable and with price going down, becoming expensive luxury good. One could say that RAM price is just a special temporary event not related to our down trend but a decade ago major players would not have left a profitable consumer market without new actors coming to fill in. But now we prefer restricting offer instead of increasing production...
- bobson381 10mo agoNet energy surplus had to end sometime, we have just decided to speed run it for some reason. Looking forward to sledding down the other side of the carbon pulse!
- rglynn 10mo agoI think "collapsing" might be hyperbole. It certainly seems clear that a purely upward trajectory of peace and living standards in the West was not supposed to last. History has its ebbs and flows, I'm sure we have a long way downhill to go, but I suspect there are peaceful times on the other side.
- mks_shuffle 10mo agoWhat could be the potential impact on smartphone and tablet prices in the coming months or years? I am assuming that laptop prices will start increasing next year.
- toss1 10mo agoMoore's Law has been reversed. Instead of doubling transistors or capacity every 18 months, it is halved. This is some kind of fundamentally different era for the tech industry, but ...
- immibis 10mo agoSo it's doubled. From the complaints you'd think it was more like 10x.
- ortusdux 10mo agoSome stores are going to a 'market price' system because the are tired of constantly printing new price tags. https://www.pcworld.com/article/2984629/ram-is-so-expensive-that-stores-are-selling-it-at-market-prices.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/2984629/ram-is-so-expensive-...
- agigao 10mo agoI was planning to upgrade my PC 2 months ago, Corsair Dominator DDR5 96GB was ~ $400, and I thought it was a bit too much. Well...
- htk 10mo agoI remember when crypto ruined the market for GPUs, and now AI is ruining the market for DRAM. Darn you, fads.
- ge96 10mo agowhat's funny for me, I bought this nice ram a while back but my CPU caps its speed so it's stuck at 2400mhz like ugh
- zeristor 10mo agoOn the flip side should the AI bubble burst won’t these be cheap if the data centres are liquidated?
- nickpsecurity 10mo agoAt these prices, it might pay off to start an open-ish, non-profit, DRAM company to produce chips good enough for these purposes. They can sell a certain amount above cost for consumers and small businesses. Full price with guaranteed volume for some, enterprise suppliers. The profits might be used to port the DRAM to multiple foundries to gradually increase supply. Alternatively, they can shift to produce other components, like VRAM. Make the low-to-midrange accelerators with larger VRAM more available at reasonable prices. Just speculating. I don't know silicon economics well.
- estimator7292 10mo agoMan, we can't even buy bare DRAM chips at work. Nobody will sell us anything. The whole US electronics industry has suddenly been put in a chokehold for.... perpetuating the AI bubble? Man it'd be great if these AI assholes could stop absolutely trashing every single part of society, the economy, and the physical planet at large.
- khaki54 10mo agoThe actual headline here is sort of misleading -- the 4x price increase is over the past 3 months!
- subarctic 10mo agoI mean I wouldn't say it's misleading, it just says what the graph contains. It's important that it shows 18 months so you can see how flat it was before