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OpenClaw surpasses React to become the most-starred software project on GitHub
- whit537 8mo agoYes, stars are a popularity contest. No open source project has ever become this popular this quickly.
- chromehearts 8mo agoI don't know but this AI wrapper tool will never create something life changing imo.. But that stargraph is ridiculous .. absolutely crazy
- halicarnassus 8mo agoMaybe a bunch of AI agents ganged up on starring it to help a fellow AI out?
- sschueller 8mo agoWhat is an effective use case? I have set it up but I don't know what to do with it. Just a personal assistant (if you were to give it access to your stuff)? Mine is caged in a VLAN with only internet access.
- jcgrillo 8mo agoYou give it your etrade login and retire early.
- silversmith 8mo agoI guess we are just boring and/or unimaginative. I don't get that many communications per day to require an abstraction level between me and the messages. The daily automations I need are more efficiently carried out by home assistant / n8n. I'm not in a position where I need automated briefs on every new company started in my area. I genuinely don't see how it could benefit me.
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- dg2fgfg 8mo agoMost humans are unimaginative because to be imaginative is actually really, really hard. People are also incredibly overly optimistic about their own ideas etc... until they go through the craftsmanship of producing something great. Most peoples thought process is "oh great idea, just gotta do this and that and out pops something that'll improve peoples lives". Erm no... its nothing like that in reality.
- theshrike79 8mo agon8n can't handle abiguity, unless you program it to. Like if you want bad weather alerts, you need to specifically define every situation of "bad weather" by givin exact weather / wind / rain limits. What happens if it's cold, windy and rainy, but every value is juust 0.1 over the threshold of notifying you? It's still objectively shit weather. Or can n8n go through your emails and check for promo codes or sales you're looking for - in ad mails that are 90% images with text?
- silversmith 8mo agoI'd counter that n8n (or most other workflow tools) can handle as much ambiguity as OpenClaw - it has a LLM call node. Stuff the ambiguous parts in there, but don't burn a rainforests worth of compute figuring out how to call the weather API each and every time. Also, in the olden days of pre-AI, if our weather workflow did not notify us because conditions juuust failed to be met, we adjusted the thresholds. Uphill, both ways. Don't get me wrong, I use a bunch of LLMs for automations. By prompting the model "here is what I want to achieve, here are the tools I have, figure out how to stitch them together". Actual workflows run (mostly) deterministically, with a sprinkling of "classify this image" or "summarize this text" nodes thrown in for a good measure.
- mercwear 8mo agoHere are some of the things I did with it while running locally: - Ask it to perform a scan of your local network and give you advice on output - Tell it to login to various computers and re-boot them (I have a few servers I host and setup openclaw to have a user on them) - Replace web search by asking openclaw It's neat but the token use is pretty inefficient and security of course is a mess but it's been fun to play with. I am messing with NanoClaw now and it's pretty much the same but only support Claude (uses code to do everything)
- dmd 8mo agoI don't see how any of those require a constant-heartbeat loop. Those all work just fine in claude code / cowork.
- vanillameow 8mo agoAnd in reality most of what does need a heartbeat loop can also easily be automated by just asking Claude to set up a cronjob. I think genuinely the most "novel" thing about something like OpenClaw is just that it "feels" more like a "real entity", like a partner rather than a chatbot, and for some reason that resonates with people. Whether that's by itself kind of a huge red flag or kind of a nothingburger, everyone has to decide for themselves.
- rune-dev 8mo agoDo you really need an AI agent to reboot a computer? This takes maybe 10 minutes to write a script for…
- swader999 8mo agoIt's useful for clearing out Mac inventory before the launch this week.
- qoez 8mo agoThere is none. It's just a way for coders to feel or be able to say they "work with AI" imo. Same with doing light wrapper coding to do agents stuff. The real AI work is on actual math and ML with the internet scale data, but only four big companies does that and this is the closest regular coders can get.
- moffkalast 8mo agoCould be a psyops by Anthropic to make people waste Claude tokens and rack up a massive bill.
- dg2fgfg 8mo agoTokens generated is a nice metric that they really care about.
- nicbou 8mo agoThere is a thread from February with more credible use cases from real users. As someone said, it does what everyone expected Siri to do by now.
- hobofan 8mo agoWhich one? None of those that came up when I searched were really containing a lot of real uses. Both top threads[0][1] don't really contain much of substance. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46838946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46838946 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47147183 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47147183
- sumeno 8mo agoSeparating fools from their money and data
- arewethereyeta 8mo agoyou're talking about a free tool you know that right?
- LorenDB 8mo agoNot many people are using local LLMs for their OpenClaw backend, so most are paying money to OpenAI/Anthropic/etc. and getting their data siphoned as a bonus.
- Jcampuzano2 8mo agoI don't doubt that there are people using it for legitimate stuff, but I'd wager the vast majority just set it up for the hype and to feel in the "in crowd". I set it up, and had it do a few things, then decided its too risky after seeing some of the drastic failures it had caused some people. Sure I understand you can sandbox it and all, but even then I couldn't think of much stuff I wouldn't want to do myself just nor justify the cost to run it.
- sodapopcan 8mo agoIt's useful for producing content about how you're using it.
- lm28469 8mo agoWannabe Tony Stark love these gadgets, and there are a lot of them out there. Just look at what tech content is trending on youtube &co these days, we got gangrened by influencers like most other hobbies/lucrative industries
- monax 8mo agoHow many of theses are just OpenClaw agents staring the repo ?
- kmaitreys 8mo agoRelevant https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36151140 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36151140
- ZiiS 8mo agoMy React website can't star React on GitHub.
- ch4s3 8mo agoNot with that attitude it can't!
- egeozcan 8mo agoNow I have this terrible idea: const openClawInstance = useOpenClaw(config); Did anyone already vibe-code such silliness? If not, I want to give it a try.
- ch4s3 8mo agoI'd love to read about that going super sideways. Bonus points if you run it in a webworker like those crypto miners.
- podgorniy 8mo ago__ but everyone knows about facebook though __ React popularity is also a phenomenon closely tied to popularity of the fb
- xnx 8mo agoIs staring the repo the "hello world" for a new OpenClaw install? #growthhack
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- croes 8mo agoThe final proof that Github stars are a useless metric
- japhyr 8mo agoI have a friend who's fond of saying, "GitHub stars are great for measuring the number of GitHub stars a project has."
- SecretDreams 8mo agoWell, they're not wrong!
- amelius 8mo agothey just need better captchas.
- thomasingalls 8mo agoTouch this grass to prove you're not a robot
- silon42 8mo agoThey are now for this project... should be hidden.
- 12ajsh 8mo agoThe ruling party in East Germany always had 99% of the popular vote. Steinberger and his VC club on Twitter were so salty about HN not understanding his grand creation that something needed to be done.
- mannanj 8mo agoDidn't they employ astro-turfing, too
- goodmodule 8mo agoeven more GitHub stars after this post in 3 2 1
- root_axis 8mo agoI don't believe the activity on this repo is legitimate by any means.
- amelius 8mo agoThey probably used a claw to increase the ranking.
- jsheard 8mo agoThe whole repo must be absolutely swarming with agents, just look at the sheer rate of issues and pull requests. There was 6 new PRs in the last 10 minutes at the time of writing. It's not much of a stretch to assume the stars are also inorganic.
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- petetnt 8mo agoEvery other minute some bots is creating an issue that a bot is trying to solve via a pull request which is reviewed by multiple bots. Future is now, good luck and have fun.
- jsheard 8mo agoIf you want a picture of the future, imagine a bot stamping LGTM! :sparkles: :rocket: on a pull request - forever.
- OpenWaygate 8mo agoThis repo is a big stitches
- ekianjo 8mo agoBy design, with llm agents and all, surely not
- hansonkd 8mo agoAgents will dominate the internet and open source code in a few years.
- indigodaddy 8mo agoAnd I still would not touch it even with my mother in law's 100 foot stick
- wolvesechoes 8mo agoTotally grassroot
- liveoneggs 8mo agoin what sense is this software not a virus?
- Upvoter33 8mo agoHonestly this thread was been one of the funniest HN threads I've seen. So much gold in here - for which I thank you all. "My React website can't star React" "in what sense is this software not a virus?" "GitHub stars are great for measuring the number of GitHub stars a project has" etc. All gold.
- alansaber 8mo agoWell deserved, the best written piece of software ever.
- sgalbincea 8mo agoThis is going to be more profitable for the public AI companies than cell phone minutes and SMS limits were for the telcos. It's a brilliant business move, given that hardly anyone is competent enough to recognize the gross inefficiencies in the code and prompts.
- xantronix 8mo agoNobody has the _time_, that's for goddamned sure. The business model sounds very similar to that of Philip Morris International.
- polytely 8mo agowhen i use claude opus via opencode/openrouter i'm sometimes suprised by how quickly costs can get out of hand. What are the costs of running openClaw, it seems like it would get crazy expensive crazy fast?
- laweijfmvo 8mo agoDoes this mean that the creator of OpenClaw qualifies for that free Claude Max trial?
- siva7 8mo agoNo, Openai employees are banned by Anthropic from using Claude.
- furyofantares 8mo agoOpenAI employees are also banned from using Claude by Pete Hegseth, according to Pete Hegseth
- mccoyb 8mo agoGitHub has a bot problem: https://github.com/trending https://github.com/trending
- Alifatisk 8mo ago”ruvnet / wifi-densepose” is currently at the top in the moment. Apparently, its a non functional AI slop. Someone tried installing it ago only to find out the full thing was vibe coded and the entire repo is probably just a front to look good on the their resume.
- luke5441 8mo agoAnthropic giving away Claude if you get 5000 stars doesn't help either
- theshrike79 8mo agoI'm pretty sure it's not "if 5000 stars then free Claude". It's just an initial limit before they bother a human to check if your open source project is valid. Just like Jetbrains gives away IDEA licenses for open source projects, you need to have some metrics go up before they even consider you.
- h1fra 8mo agoThis is going to be the most starred and unused repo very quickly. The hype is already fading, as expected
- bwb 8mo agoI'm blown away by the comments. This is a cool project someone created with clear warnings about its current state (beta), and the community is being utterly disrespectful. They are building something that many people find useful/fascinating/intriguing/fun. Come on HN.
- brakup 8mo agoWhy should people find an automated, buggy, risky slopworm for script kiddies that relies on an external slop provider who also gets all your data interesting? This is the lowest, most boring form of programming.
- bwb 8mo agoI think if you dig into it and play with it, you will find that it is doing some really cool stuff. I started playing with it a few weeks ago, and I am having a blast messing around with it. Hoping to hook it up to a robot kit next month to try some fun stuff. Are some people using it in absolutely shitty ways? Yes, but that isn't the majority of the people playing with it. The negativity I am seeing here is off the charts and undserved.
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- g947o 8mo agoA comment on OpenClaw about how useful it is with absolutely no concrete examples? That's a surprise.
- tredre3 8mo agoYes the cynical tropes are getting tired by now, even though I personally agree with most of them. But suspicions on the legitimacy of the stars seems reasonable, wouldn't you agree? Look at the rate of stars, look at the comments/issues/prs on the repo. It feels safe to assume that most of them are from bots and not organic humans who went out to star a cool project.
- SunshineTheCat 8mo agoI keep reading folks saying OpenClaw has completely changed their life while posting a picture of 58 mac minis on their desk. But every single use case I've read so far could be done with a pretty affordable SaaS product, Zapier, Automator (app on a mac that's existed for over a decade), or something simple you could make yourself. It also feels like people are automating things that don't really need to be automated at all (do you really need to be reminded to make coffee?) I fully realize this is probably me being a curmudgeon, however, I have yet to see someone make an actual, practical use case for it. (I would genuinely like to know one, I just haven't seen it)
- pluc 8mo agoIt's the novelty of the technology. You can easily be amazed at the apparent magic of AI. I think this is what most people are using AI for so far. There's lots of "they were so eager to do that they never asked if they should" energy out there. It's also most of what AI can do, so hopefully the amazement wears off soon.
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- yoyohello13 8mo agoThese people with 58 mac mini's have made several competitive products in production right... right?
- muddi900 8mo agoThere might be a list somewhere.
- Alifatisk 8mo agoWhat’s cool with Openclaw is that you only have tell it what you want, it figures out how to do it using the tools it have access to.
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- fidotron 8mo agoWhat's so incredible about OpenClaw is so much of the value people are deriving from it relates to: cron jobs, remote access, "privacy" (which really it's not if using remote LLMs) and an inability to fuse data across siloes by normal people, so relying on AI to do it. If we had a decent technical universe much of this stuff would work in ways that simply don't require LLMs for anything other than the initial setup.
- brtkwr 8mo agoI got OpenClaw to compile Node from source on my old Jetson Nano so that I can run OpenClaw natively instead of using Bun. It took 30 hours but it did it by spinning up a tmux session for the build and using a cron to monitor the tmux pane every hour and even fixing a failure at 5 am which I would have had to find out later had crashed but it had actually found what needed to be changed for the build to continue and it continued building.... Now I have the latest version of OpenClaw running on Node 22 on my 5 year old Jetson Nano running Ubuntu 18 which I cannot upgrade. What they say is all true, it is incredible stuff when it works! Full story: https://brtkwr.com/posts/2026-03-02-upgrading-openclaw-to-latest-node22-on-jetson-nano/ https://brtkwr.com/posts/2026-03-02-upgrading-openclaw-to-la...
- rune-dev 8mo agoApologies if I missed it while skimming your blog post. But could you estimate the token cost of this? Or were you able to comfortably do this with a subscription plan?
- bombela 8mo agoThat's really cool. But wouldn't have been quicker and simpler to add ".bun/" to the pattern of authorized paths the same way it presumably works for ".npm/"?
- ChristianDavis 8mo agoOh look, another public service being looted for nefarious purposes. Thanks OpenAI!
- xantronix 8mo agoIt's bizarre to me how Microsoft somehow owns two of the largest social networks for software developers.
- DeathArrow 8mo agoOpenClaw agents are starring OpenClaw project? What a surprise!
- neals 8mo agoGives me mongodb vibes. This whole Ai coding thing too. On one side, religious loud following, on the other side the nay sayers. We'll probably end up in the middle.
- cpursley 8mo agoFwiw, Claude and Codex are very very good at SQL and have actually taught me some new tricks. No reason to use mongodb or firebase in 2026: https://postgresisenough.dev https://postgresisenough.dev
- Bridged7756 8mo agoI agree. I for one, welcome LLMs for sensible uses, like trivia, code boilerplate, as a content synthesizer. I wouldn't trust it with anything else, and have found that any gains obtained by speedups in code writing are offset by the extra cognitive load from digesting code I didn't write.
- dsr_ 8mo agoCocAIne is a hell of a drug.
- informal007 8mo agoIs there a place to show what users use OpenClaw in life or work? I’ve tried OpenClaw two weeks but don’t know what it can do for me. I let it to finish some project for me, but the most hard work for project is validating the results over giving instructions
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- r0b05 8mo agoSo React was the last most human-starred project on GitHub before the dawn of agent-starred projects.
- hinkley 8mo agoI say, 'your civilization' because as soon as we started thinking for you, it really became... our... civilization.
- blueTiger33 8mo agojust gave a star to Linux
- toinewx 8mo agoI tried it today for the first time. The onboarding is okay. I picked Whatsapp but it ended up using my own account! So it's absolutely too dangerous. We are supposed to create a separate account but with which phone number? I only have one. So I picked Telegram instead, added it to a group chat, but it was a slog to set the authorizations. In the end I don't trust it to read my mails for security reasons so I uninstalled it!
- AbraKdabra 8mo ago> I picked Whatsapp but it ended up using my own account! So it's absolutely too dangerous. We are supposed to create a separate account but with which phone number? I only have one. You're joking right?
- toinewx 8mo agonope, they recommend creating a separate whatsapp account. but fall short of saying you need a separate number (and subscription)
- recursive 8mo agoWhat would the joke be? I haven't touched OpenClaw and probably won't. I use WhatsApp lightly, but it seems like it requires a distinct phone number, used as an account identifier. So for the benefit of those of us not immersed in this scene, could you elaborate?
- permo-w 8mo agoPresumably they're referring to the general ease of obtaining a second phone number. I think the bigger issue could be making a second Whatsapp account though. WhatsApp does not want you having multiple accounts. Last I checked there's no in-app option to log out on Android other than to delete your account
- AdamN 8mo agoMacOS supports multiple users - I would absolutely sandbox any agent like this and only slowly give it permissions (and never to anything that's critical without compensating controls).
- eddof13 8mo agoI'm tempted not to use it to control everything, but install it on my mac and give it access to keyboard maestro macros and that's it
- TrackerFF 8mo agoWonder how much of that is contributed by bot/farm accounts. The creator certainly has the means. EDIT: I should mention, I'm talking about the initial growth / traction.
- dokdev 8mo agoGithub stars started feeling more and more meaningless every day.
- nkzd 8mo agoI am yet to see one good use case for it.
- amelius 8mo agoWhen I ask ChatGPT about OpenClaw, it refers to: https://github.com/pjasicek/OpenClaw https://github.com/pjasicek/OpenClaw OpenClaw - Captain Claw (1997) reimplementation
- maybeiambatman 8mo agoGreat game.
- sva_ 8mo ago... It was mostly starred by OpenClaw B̶o̶t̶s̶ Agents, wasn't it?
- hmokiguess 8mo agoWho are these people? I was skeptical at first and seriously thinking surely not the software engineers out there as we see in HN how risky and wild this is. Then, to my surprise, a coworker came and told me they were running it and happy with that setup. I was baffled, but I work with Gen Z in a pretty niche Gen Alpha market, so I kinda feel like they’re somewhat more likely to go for these things. What’s your experience?
- sva_ 8mo ago> Who are these people? For example, someone working in safety and alignment at Meta: https://nitter.net/FakePsyho/status/2025857836014538818 https://nitter.net/FakePsyho/status/2025857836014538818
- g947o 8mo agoThat kind of explains why Meta's AI effort has been going so well for the past year.
- hmokiguess 8mo agoMixed feelings here, if she is a researcher then I guess part of her research should be explore this in some level of depth with real stakes. Though this does make it seem like that was not what she was doing there.
- ffsm8 8mo agoIf I could use it at my day job, I'd do it within a heartbeat - albeit only with readonly access (with write only on it's own files/output/sandbox) There are so many mails and communications with so many tasks to research via confluence etc But on my private hardware? Idk, I haven't found a use for it...
- hmokiguess 8mo agoI'm sure you can already do some kind of scripting + LLMs without necessarily needing this at your work though, no? Email is stored in your device somewhere, you could just get its content sent to your preferred agent, you can use one of the many mobile clients if you rather interact through that kind of UX (like self hosted hapi.run + tailscale for example), and you could setup a cronjob or something like it on your machine to do it based on whatever interval. This is just one way I personally could go about it, YMMV obviously. Is there a specific reason why you will not do something like that for example?
- croddin 8mo agoAs many other comments have said there probably is a good percent of stars by claws themselves, I would be curious what percent this is but it is also interesting: current "dumb bot" stars/spam etc is entirely automated and coordinated but these claws probably independently reasoned over long thought chains about why it is a good idea to star openclaw.
- ivanjermakov 8mo agoGitHub star count was a good metric until it became clear that it is a good metric. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law
- jiangyangcreate 8mo agosuch as : algorithms test
- blenderob 8mo agoLook at the graph - https://api.star-history.com/svg?repos=facebook/react,openclaw/openclaw,torvalds/linux&type=Date https://api.star-history.com/svg?repos=facebook/react,opencl... React and Linux got their 200K stars slowly but surely over 10 years. OpenClaw got their 200K stars in like 3 months! Is this any meaningful comparison? Getting 200K stars today doesn't mean much because today stars can be bought. There's a big shady thriving business of selling stars. Stars today can be generated using swarm of thoughtless agents. What's the use of counting these stars when they don't mean anything anymore?
- crumpled 8mo agoI agree with your point, and am only responding to the last sentence. Starring can be useful to the starer. They are just counted because it is countable. Whether you find the number meaningful remains up to you.
- ASalazarMX 8mo agoBesides, stars != installs, these days they're a popularity contest at the level of Facebook likes, not a measure of a project's success. Let's wait for the explorers to return.
- theshrike79 8mo agoEveryone's Clawd has a Github account that most likely has liked the OpenClaw project Would be nice to see a graph of stars by account age, how many of the stars come from accounts that are under 6 months old for example?
- marginalia_nu 8mo agoI was looking at the accounts that have starred the OpenClaw project. Many seem relatively old, but I couldn't find more than a handful that seemed to be publicly active in any sense (e.g. making PRs or commits). Same story with the forks. A metric shit-ton ton of forks, no branches or commits or any sign of activity on the forks. Compared that to the people who have been starring my projects, and every single one of them had some sort of activity on record. --edit-- Checked again now, seems more recent accounts have some activity. But still, lots of accounts like these https://github.com/hannhow https://github.com/hannhow https://github.com/197291 https://github.com/197291 https://github.com/Honstanding https://github.com/Honstanding https://github.com/FriTOol https://github.com/FriTOol
- mikey_p 8mo agoWho cares about stars on Github??? "If dev null is fast and webscale I will use it" "Does dev null support sharding" Who remembers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs
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- croddin 8mo agoIn other news, "Show HN: This up votes itself"[1] from 14 years ago is still the 20th most voted story in HN history.[2] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742902 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742902 [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- iJohnDoe 8mo agoI have a strong hunch that everything regarding OpenClaw is pure guerrilla marketing. If so, the only thing amazing about OpenClaw is their wildly successful marketing campaign.
- draxil 8mo agohow many of these stars were applied by openclaw?
- mikeocool 8mo agoThis sort of highlights the meaninglessness of GitHub stars? React has been around for over a decade, and in that time pretty significantly impacted web dev paradigms (along with a few other mediums). It’s hard to imagine being a web developer today and not knowing at least some react. OpenClaw has been around for like a few months? And maybe it’s on its way to having that sort of impact? But right now seems to he mostly the purview of very early adopters and AI influencers.
- tantalor 8mo agoIt's basically the same as The New York Times Best Seller list
- Tadpole9181 8mo agoGitHub accounts are free and the project is literally a bot-ing service. It stands to reason that the tens of thousands of robots unleashed on the web are responsible for these stars? It's larger than literally every open source service I thought to use as a benchmark. Rust, React, Vue, Symfony, Laravel, PHP Stan, Python, ESlint, rails, LLVM, Spring, fucking Linux itself. I would wager the legitimate stars for OpenClaw are single digit percents of this. But hey, I haven't actually run the numbers on the GitHub API.
- tacet 8mo agoThere are youtube skits about openclaw. It is discussed in techy podcasts and i think it was mentioned in 404 as well. It's popular because people are exploring "what can i do with compute" once again. React is as meaningless as tickless kernels for vast majority of people. Should be noted that i am not using any claws. Just a person remembering people spending their nights programming all sorts of psychedelic displays in qbasic with some moving on to asm. Asm for fun.
- ramoz 8mo agoOpenClaw is not going away anytime soon. And I don’t think it can be platformed behind web UIs. OpenAI owns an OS with this one. I avoided the hype at first; however, it has become extremely efficient for emails and notes, and I can see how this can extend to any sort of digital workflow. The convenience of chatting with this thing, no matter where I'm at, is a key marker.
- ramesh31 8mo agoStars have become completely meaningless in the last year or two. It's a shame, because having a few thousand Github stars used to be a really big deal, and was a quality marker for libraries that had reached a level of maturity and production grade. Now it's just social media bot driven nonsense.
- cfiggers 8mo agoIt's entertaining to me to imagine future historians arguing with one another, writing dissertations, publishing virtual reality eyeBooks, explaining to one another all about the ancient etymological connection between "claws" and "webhooks".
- faize 8mo agoI spent around $5 setting up a small bot and sending a few requests through the Claude API. For those who use Claude (or similar LLM APIs) on a daily basis, what does your monthly spend look like in practice? And do you feel the cost is justified by the value you’re getting?
- skeledrew 8mo agoI got the full value of my Claude Pro subscription in the first couple few hours of having taking the leap. Hit the message limit and had to edit for reset, but I was already a happy customer given the progress I made on a project that I was trying to recover (couldn't quite figure what was needed to get it ready for real world usable, but Claude Code figured it and it was a good collab getting it there).
- LanceJones 8mo ago$200/mth USD for me. Anthropic's oAuth Max20 subscription via their SDK. I've had several 100M+ token days without even a blip.
- 4dregress 8mo agoI had no idea what openclaw was, just checked and no thanks I’d rather do all that stuff myself. Why are people so keen to let a company get that close to their real life’s, it’s terrifying!
- melonpan7 8mo agoHalf of them coming from agents
- DrammBA 8mo agoI've seen multiple comments saying that openclaw stars itself during onboarding or that it asks its user to star, but noone has posted any proof, is there any concrete evidence for those claims?
- singularity2001 8mo agoAm I blind or does this post not contain any links to the GitHub in question???
- throwaway13337 8mo agoThe stars are probably legitimate. It's weird that most people in these comments are speculating fraud. Why aren't companies with real money to gain from stars gaming the system to the same degree? Why do the other metrics - issues and pull requests - match up with its popularity? Why would the bots starring the repo mean that those same bots are not popular? Those bots are controlled by their users. The project is extremely active because this is what everyone being able to customize their computing looks like. A mess. But it's a good mess. Github was the old code sharing model clearly not designed for this. I'm sure a new model for code sharing will come to fix the growing pains. A ton of people who would have never been able to customize their computing experience are finally able to. And it is magical for them. This means that those same people will finally value having access to source and use of open protocols. It was always valuable to us because we had the power to make it matter. It never mattered to them because they did not. Now they do. The last era of computing was defined by dumbing down computing for the masses. Less information, less customizable, and more metric driven. Control in the hands of the companies. This new era will look more free/libre, more personal, and less enshitified. Control in the hands of the users. This is a very positive development.
- echoangle 8mo ago> Why aren't companies with real money to gain from stars gaming the system to the same degree? How are you gaining money from stars? Why would Facebook bot stars for the react repo?
- adampunk 8mo agoI think the implication here is that if we can’t find evidence of or motivation for companies paying to inflate their star counts, then we should cool it on the accusation that magically fraud has appeared in this case. We also should remember that if this project had zero stars, we would hear crowing from these same people about how true and important that metric was. The idea that “open claw” paid for these stars somehow is mostly just reasoning backwards from the idea that no one would find this project interesting.
- butz 8mo agoSo, how do I use this OpenClaw to automate actually useful things, like sweeping floor, washing dishes and doing laundry?
- recursive 8mo agoGive it one of those tesla bots.
- throwyawayyyy 8mo agoA lack of imagination on my part perhaps, but I can't think of anything I'd use it for which isn't either: 1) cheating myself and others of leisure (e.g. I suppose I could use it to fake-keep up with friends..? Or plan a holiday and book a load of stuff for me. But I like doing that!), 2) not feasible (loading and unloading the dishwasher, which is already the robot I used to wash dishes), 3) utterly insane (it's tax time in the US).
- bionaut 8mo agoThink about how openclaw can automatically send email to book guests on your podcast that no one watches. It is a game changer. It can even automatically send email to other people who have podcasts and youtube channels no one watches to come on your podcast no one watches and you can both discuss what a game changer openclaw is. It can even then watch the podcasts for both of you so now you both have viewers!
- throwyawayyyy 8mo agoI'm reminded of Douglas Adams's take on video recorders as machines to watch television so you don't have to. He should have been around to see Marvin built for real!
- permo-w 8mo agoHave it blackmail someone into doing it for you
- m463 8mo agoMaybe AI is helping with the difficulties of upvoting a project on github. or is it tooting its own horn?
- johnwheeler 8mo agoI wanna understand this, but it's gone from a bunch of people talking about how great it is to a bunch of technical people talking about how worthless it is. So I think it's probably not that great. Who cares if I can chat remotely with my AI? What's the difference? What's so good about that?
- deafpolygon 8mo agoHow much of it is AI agents starring the project?
- ramon156 8mo agoIs there some hidden thing that stars the repo when you use it? I cannot imagine 200.000 people caring about OpenClaw
- big-chungus4 8mo agoHow do I downvote a comment
- FloatArtifact 8mo agoRegardless of which way you slice it, it is really neet to be able to automate more aspects of our lives than ever before. It's not so much about the framework we use, the fact that we have the endpoints to use them.
- Yanko_11 8mo ago[dead]