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ChatGPT Pulse
- animanoir 1y ago[dead]
- haberdasher 1y agoAnyone try listening and just hear "Object object...object object..." Or more likely: `[object, object]`
- brazukadev 1y agoThe low quality of openai customer-facing products keeps reminding me we won't be replaced by AI anytime soon. They have unlimited access to the most powerful model and still can't make good software.
- DonHopkins 1y agoThat is objectionable content! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCSGkogquwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCSGkogquwo
- Mistletoe 1y agoI need this bubble to last until 2026 and this is scaring me.
- frenchie4111 1y agoVesting window?
- Mistletoe 1y agoI'm just stubborn and don't want to go defensive yet with rate cuts here. I think the rich want one last good peak to get out on.
- catigula 1y agoDesperation for new data harvesting methodology is a massive bear signal FYI
- fullstackchris 1y agoCalm down bear we are not even 2% from the all time highs
- brap 1y agoThey’re running out of ideas.
- holler 1y agoYeah I was thinking, what problem does this solve?
- EmilienCosson 1y agoI was thinking that too, and eventually thought that their servers run slow at night, with low activity.
- candiddevmike 1y agoAd delivery
- rhetocj23 1y agoIt doesnt. It improves some metrics to prove to investors there is an insatialable demand, which enables OAI to raise more money. Bahhh, boring!!!
- neom 1y agoJust connect everything folks, we'll proactively read everything, all the time, and you'll be a 10x human, trust us friends, just connect everything...
- datadrivenangel 1y agoAI SYSTEM perfect size for put data in to secure! inside very secure and useful data will be useful put data in AI System. Put data in AI System. no problems ever in AI Syste because good Shape and Support for data integration weak of big data. AI system yes a place for a data put data in AI System can trust Sam Altman for giveing good love to data. friend AI. [0] 0 - https://www.tumblr.com/elodieunderglass/186312312148/luritto-cornerof5thandvermouth https://www.tumblr.com/elodieunderglass/186312312148/luritto...
- jrmg 1y agoNothing bad can happen, it can only good happen!
- oaxacaoaxaca 1y agoPerfect use of that line lol
- delichon 1y agoBad grammar is now a trust signal, this might work.
- yeasku 1y agoJust one more connection bro, I promise bro, just one more connection and we will get AGI.
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- randomNumber7 1y agoWhen smartphones came I first said "I don't buy the camera and microphone that spy on me from my own money." Now you would be really a weirdo to not have one since enough people gave in for small convenience to make it basically mandatory.
- Stevvo 1y ago"Now ChatGPT can start the conversation" By their own definition, its a feature nobody asked for. Also, this needs a cute/mocking name. How about "vibe living"?
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- jasonsb 1y agoHey Tony, are you still breathing? We'd like to monetize you somehow.
- moralestapia 1y agoOpenAI is a trillion dollar company. No doubt. Edit: Downvote all you want, as usual. Then wait 6 months to be proven wrong. Every. Single. Time.
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoI downvoted because this isn’t an interesting comment. It makes a common, unsubstantiated claim and leaves it at that. > Downvote all you want “Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.” https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- moralestapia 1y agoWelcome to HN. 98% of it is unsubstantiated claims.
- TimTheTinker 1y agoI'm immediately thinking of all the ways this could potentially affect people in negative ways. - People who treat ChatGPT as a romantic interest will be far more hooked as it "initiates" conversations instead of just responding. It's not healthy to relate personally to a thing that has no real feelings or thoughts of its own. Mental health directly correlates to living in truth - that's the base axiom behind cognitive behavioral therapy. - ChatGPT in general is addicting enough when it does nothing until you prompt it. But adding "ChatGPT found something interesting!" to phone notifications will make it unnecessarily consume far more attention. - When it initiates conversations or brings things up without being prompted, people will all the more be tempted to falsely infer a person-like entity on the other end. Plausible-sounding conversations are already deceptive enough and prompt people to trust what it says far too much. For most people, it's hard to remember that LLMs carry no personal responsibility or accountability for what they say, not even an emotional desire to appear a certain way to anyone. It's far too easy to infer all these traits to something that says stuff and grant it at least some trust accordingly. Humans are wired to relate through words, so LLMs are a significant vector to cause humans to respond relationally to a machine. The more I use these tools, the more I think we should consciously value the output on its own merits (context-free), and no further. Data returned may be useful at times, but it carries zero authority (not even "a person said this", which normally is at least non-zero), until a person has personally verified it, including verifying sources, if needed (machine-driven validation also can count -- running a test suite, etc., depending on how good it is). That can be hard when our brains naturally value stuff more or less based on context (what or who created it, etc.), and when it's presented to us by what sounds like a person, and with their comments. "Build an HTML invoice for this list of services provided" is peak usefulness. But while queries like "I need some advice for this relationship" might surface some helpful starting points for further research, trusting what it says enough to do what it suggests can be incredibly harmful. Other people can understand your problems, and challenge you helpfully, in ways LLMs never will be able to. Maybe we should lobby legislators to require AI vendors to say something like "Output carries zero authority and should not be trusted at all or acted upon without verification by qualified professionals or automated tests. You assume the full risk for any actions you take based on the output. [LLM name] is not a person and has no thoughts or feelings. Do not relate to it." The little "may make mistakes" disclaimer doesn't communicate the full gravity of the issue.
- giovannibonetti 1y agoWatch out, Meta. OpenAI is going to eat your lunch.
- mifydev 1y agoMeta is busy with this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45379514 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45379514
- xwowsersx 1y agoGoogle's edge obvious here is the deep integration it already has with calendar, apps, and chats and what not that lets them surface context-rich updates naturally. OpenAI doesn't have that same ecosystem lock-in yet, so to really compete they'll need to get more into those integrations. I think what it comes down to ultimately is that being "just a model" company isn't going to work. Intelligence itself will go to zero and it's a race to the bottom. OpenAI seemingly has no choice but to try to create higher-level experiences on top of their platform. TBD whether they'll succeed.
- moralestapia 1y agoHow can you have an "edge" if you're shipping behind your competitors all the time? Lol.
- pphysch 1y agoGoogle is the leader in vertical AI integration right now.
- xwowsersx 1y agoBeing late to ship doesn't erase a structural edge. Google is sitting on everyone's email, calendar, docs, and search history. Like, yeah they might be a lap or two behind but they're in a car with a freaking turbo engine. They have the AI talent, infra, data, etc. You can laugh at the delay, but I would not underestimate Google. I think catching up is less "if" and more "when"
- IncreasePosts 1y agoGoogle has discover, which is used by like a 800M people/month, which already proactively delivers content to users.
- datadrivenangel 1y agoGoogle had to make google assistant less useful because of concerns around antitrust and data integration. It's a competitive advantage so they can't use it without opening up their products for more integrations...
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- pookieinc 1y agoI was wondering how they'd casually veer into social media and leverage their intelligence in a way that connects with the user. Like everyone else ITT, it seems like an incredibly sticky idea that leaves me feeling highly unsettled about individuals building any sense of deep emotions around ChatGPT.
- password54321 1y agoAt what point do you give up thinking and just let LLMs make all your decisions of where to eat, what gifts to buy and where to go on holiday? all of which are going to be biased.
- strict9 1y agoNecessary step before making a move into hardware. An object you have to remember to use quickly gets forgotten in favor of your phone. But a device that reaches out to you reminds you to hook back in.
- oldsklgdfth 1y agoTechnology service technology, rather than technology as a tool with a purpose. What is the purpose of this feature? This reads like the first step to "infinite scroll" AI echo chambers and next level surveillance capitalism. On one hand this can be exciting. Following up with information from my recent deep dive would be cool. On the other hand, I don't want to it to keep engaging with my most recent conspiracy theory/fringe deep dives.
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- SirensOfTitan 1y agoMy pulse today is just a mediocre rehash of prior conversations I’ve had on the platform. I tried to ask GPT-5 pro the other day to just pick an ambitious project it wanted to work on, and I’d carry out whatever physical world tasks it needed me to, and all it did was just come up with project plans which were rehashes of my prior projects framed as its own. I’m rapidly losing interest in all of these tools. It feels like blockchain again in a lot of weird ways. Both will stick around, but fall well short of the tulip mania VCs and tech leaders have pushed. I’ve long contended that tech has lost any soulful vision of the future, it’s just tactical money making all the way down.
- dingnuts 1y agoThanks for sharing this. I want to be excited about new tech but I have found these tools extremely underwhelming and I feel a mixture of gaslit and sinking dread when I visit this site and read some of the comments here. Why don't I see the amazing things these people do? Am I stupid? Is this the first computer thing in my whole life that I didn't immediately master? No, they're oversold. My experience is normal. It's nice to know my feelings are shared; I remain relatively convinced that there are financial incentives driving most of the rabid support of this technology
- fragmede 1y agoHow does that... work? Disclaimer: I work for a large tech company as an IC software-dev type person, and own stock in the stock market. I'm waiting on CI to finish running, but I'm salaried, so it's not accurate to say I'm being paid to make this comment. I could just as easily be scrolling Instagram or TikTok or YouTube or any number of other distractions to be had. But I mean, sure. But again, how does this work? After twirling my moustache that I wax with Evil Villian brand moustache wax, I just go on HN and make up shit to post about companies that aren't even public but are in the same industry, and that'll drive the stock price up... somehow? Someone's going to read a comment from me saying "I use plan mode in Claude Code to make a Todo.md, and then have it generate code", and based on that, that's the straw that breaks the camels back, and they rush out to buy stock in AI companies because they'd never heard of the stock market before I mentioned Claude Code. Then, based on randos reading a comment from me about Claude Code, the share price goes up by a couple of cents, but I can't sell the handful of shares I have because of blackout windows anyway, but okay so eventually those shares do sell, and I go on a lavishly expensive vacation in Europe all because I made a couple of positive comments on HN about AI that were total lies. Yeah, that's totally how that works. I also get paid to go out and protest on weekends to supplement the European vacation money. Just three more shitposts about Tesla and I get to go to South East Asia as well!
- melenaboija 1y agoHoly guacamole. It is amazing all the BS these people are able to create to keep the hype of the language models' super powers. But well I guess they have committed 100s of billions of future usage so they better come up with more stuff to keep the wheels spinning.
- r0fl 1y agoIf you press the button to read the article to you all you hear is “object, object, object…”
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- yesfitz 1y agoYeah, a 5 second clip of the word "Object" being inflected like it's actually speaking. But also it ends with "...object ject". When you inspect the network traffic, it's pulling down 6 .mp3 files which contain fragments of the clip. And it seems like the feature's broken for the whole site. The Lowes[1] press release is particularly good. Pretty interesting peek behind the curtain. 1: https://openai.com/index/lowes/ https://openai.com/index/lowes/
- DonHopkins 1y agoThank you! I have preserved this precious cultural artifact: https://archive.org/details/object-object https://archive.org/details/object-object http://donhopkins.com/home/movies/ObjectObject.mp4 http://donhopkins.com/home/movies/ObjectObject.mp4 Original mp4 files available for remixing: http://donhopkins.com/home/movies/ObjectObject.zip http://donhopkins.com/home/movies/ObjectObject.zip >Pretty interesting peek behind the curtain. It's objects all the way down!
- vunderba 1y agoIt's especially funny if you play the audio MP3 file and the video presentation at the same time - the "Object" narration almost lines up with the products being presented. It's like a hilariously vague version of Pictionary.
- datadrivenangel 1y agoSounds like someone had an off by one error in their array slicing and passed the wrong thing into the voice to text!
- DonHopkins 1y agoChatGPT IV
- xattt 1y agoEpisodes from Liberty City?
- dlojudice 1y agoI see some pessimism in the comments here but honestly, this kind of product is something that would make me pay for ChatGPT again (I already pay for Claude, Gemini, Cursor, Perplexity, etc.). At the risk of lock-in, a truly useful assistant is something I welcome, and I even find it strange that it didn't appear sooner.
- thenaturalist 1y agoTruly useful? Personal take, but the usefulness of these tools to me is greatly limited by their knowledge latency and limited modality. I don't need information overload on what playtime gifts to buy my kitten or some semi-random but probably not very practical "guide" on how to navigate XYZ airport. Those are not useful tips. It's drinking from an information firehose that'll lead to fatigue, not efficiency.
- furyofantares 1y agoI doubt there would be this level of pessimism if people thought this is a progress toward a truly useful assistant. Personally it sounds negative value. Maybe a startup that's not doing anything else could iterate on something like this into a killer app, but my expectation that OpenAI can do so is very, very low.
- simianwords 1y agoPessimism is how people now signal their savviness or status. My autistic brain took some time to understand this nuance.
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- exitb 1y agoWow, did ChatGPT come up with that feature?
- ibaikov 1y agoFunny, I pitched a much more useful version of this like two years ago with clear use-cases and value proposition
- anon-3988 1y agoLLMs are increasingly part of intimate conversations. That proximity lets them learn how to manipulate minds. We must stop treating humans as uniquely mysterious. An unfettered market for attention and persuasion will encourage people to willingly harm their own mental lives. Think social medias are bad now? Children exposed to personalized LLMs will grow up inside many tiny, tailored realities. In a decade we may meet people who seem to inhabit alternate universes because they’ve shared so little with others. They are only tethered to reality when it is practical for them (to get on busses, the distance to a place, etc). Everything else? I have no idea how to have a conversation with someone else anymore. They can ask LLMs to generate a convincing argument for them all day, and the LLMs would be fine tuned for that. If users routinely start conversations with LLMs, the negative feedback loop of personalization and isolation will be complete. LLMs in intimate use risk creating isolated, personalized realities where shared conversation and common ground collapse.
- TimTheTinker 1y ago> Children exposed to personalized LLMs will grow up inside many tiny, tailored realities. It's like the verbal equivalent of The Veldt by Ray Bradbury.[0] [0] https://www.libraryofshortstories.com/onlinereader/the-veldt https://www.libraryofshortstories.com/onlinereader/the-veldt
- astrange 1y agoThe moral of this story is that if you install a really good TV the animals will come out of it and eat you? Is the author a dog?
- TimTheTinker 1y agoI suggest taking a literature course and learning how to interpret narratives. The Veldt is a classic short story written in 1950 by Ray Bradbury, a famous and celebrated author, who also wrote the famous dystopian novel Fahrenheit 451.
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- khaledh 1y agoProduct managers live in a bubble of their own.
- tptacek 1y agoJamie Zawinksi said that every program expands until it can read email. Similarly, every tech company seems to expand until it has recapitulated the Facebook TL.
- thenaturalist 1y agoLet the personal ensloppification begin!
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- iLoveOncall 1y agoThis is a joke. How are people actually excited or praising a feature that is literally just collecting data for the obvious purpose of building a profile and ultimately showing ads? How tone deaf does OpenAI have to be to show "Mind if I ask completely randomly about your travel preferences?" in the main announcement of a new feature? This is idiocracy to the ultimate level. I simply cannot fathom that any commenter that does not have an immediate extremely negative reaction about that "feature" here is anything other than an astroturfer paid by OpenAI. This feature is literal insanity. If you think this is a good feature, you ARE mentally ill.
- asdev 1y agoWhy they're working on all the application layer stuff is beyond me, they should just be heads down on making the best models
- lomase 1y agoThey would if it were posible.
- 1970-01-01 1y agoFlavor-of-the-week LLMs sell better than 'rated best vanilla' LLMs
- swader999 1y agoMoat
- iLoveOncall 1y agoBecause they've hit the ceiling a couple of years ago?
- ttoinou 1y agoThey can probably do both with all the resources they have
- TriangleEdge 1y agoI see OpenAI is entering the phase of building peripheral products no one asked for. Another widget here and there. In my experience, when a company stops innovating, this usually happens. Time for OpenAI to spend 30 years being a trillon dollar company and delivering 0 innovations akin to Google.
- simianwords 1y agoLast mile delivery of foundational models is part of innovating. Innovation didn't stop when transistors were invented - innovation was bringing this technology to the masses in the form of Facebook, Google Search, Maps and so on.
- ifdefdebug 1y agoBut transistor designers didn't pivot away from designing transistors. They left Facebook and all the other stuff to others and kept designing better transistors.
- rhetocj23 1y agoYup. Googles marginal ROIC is horrific. Its average ROIC in the aggregate on the other hand looks nice, because most of its returns are from projects taken 10+ years ago.
- Dilettante_ 1y agoThe handful of other commenters that brough it up are right: This is gonna be absolutely devastating for the "wireborn spouse", "I disproved physics" and "I am the messiah" crowd's mental health. But: I personally could see myself getting something like "Hey, you were studying up on SQL the other day, would you like to do a review, or perhaps move on to a lesson about Django?" Or take AI-assisted "therapy"/skills training, not that I'd particularly endorse that at this time, as another example: Having the 'bot "follow up" on its own initiative would certainly aid people who struggle with consistency. I don't know if this is a saying in english as well: "Television makes the dumb dumber and the smart smarter." LLMs are shaping up to be yet another obvious case of that same principle.
- iLoveOncall 1y ago> This is gonna be absolutely devastating for the "wireborn spouse", "I disproved physics" and "I am the messiah" crowd's mental health. > I personally could see myself getting something like [...] AI-assisted "therapy" ???
- Dilettante_ 1y agoI edited the post to make it more clear: I could see myself having ChatGPT prompt me about the SQL stuff, and the "therapy" (basic dbt or cbt stuff is not too complicated to coach someone for and can make a real difference, from what I gather) would be another way that I could see the technology being useful, not necessarily one I would engage with.
- labrador 1y agoNo desktop version. I know I'm old, but do people really do serious work on small mobile phone screens? I love my glorious 43" 4K monitor, I hate small phone screens but I guess that's just me.
- rkomorn 1y agoLike mobile-only finance apps... because what I definitely don't want to do is see a whole report in one page. No, I obviously prefer scrolling between charts or having to swipe between panes. It's not just you, and I don't think it's just us.
- meindnoch 1y agoMost people don't use desktops anymore. At least in my friend circles, it's 99% laptop users.
- BhavdeepSethi 1y agoI don't think they meant desktops in the literal sense. Laptop with/without monitors is effectively considered desktop now (compared to mobile web/apps).
- calmoo 1y agothese days, desktop == not a mobile phone
- ducttape12 1y agoThis isn't about doing "serious" work, it's about making ChatGPT the first thing you interact with in the day (and hopefully something you'll keep coming back to)
- labrador 1y agoI don't wake up and start talking to my phone. I make myself breakfast/coffee and sit down in front of my window on the world and start exploring it. I like the old internet, not the curated walled gardens of phone apps.
- catlover76 1y agolol wtf, do they know it's not April 1st
- thekevan 1y agoI wish it had the option to make a pulse weekly or even monthly. I generally don't want my AI to be proactive at a personal level despite it being useful at a business level. My wants are pretty low level. For example, I give it a list of bands and performers and it checks once a week to tell me if any of them have announced tour dates within an hour or two of me.
- apprentice7 1y agoTo be honest, you don't even need AI for something like that. You might just write a script to automate that kind of thing which is no more than a scrape-and-notify logic.
- hatthew 1y agoBandsintown already does this
- currymj 1y agothey've already had that exact feature for a while, scheduled tasks are available in the settings menu. if you just tell the chat to schedule a task it will also make one automatically.
- ripped_britches 1y agoWow so much hate in this thread For me I’m looking for an AI tool that can give me morning news curated to my exact interests, but with all garbage filtered out. It seems like this is the right direction for such a tool. Everyone saying “they’re out of ideas” clearly doesn’t understand that they have many pans on the fire simultaneously with different teams shipping different things. This feature is a consumer UX layer thing. It in no way slows down the underlying innovation layer. These teams probably don’t even interface much. ChatGPT app is merely one of the clients of the underlying intelligence effort. You also have API customers and enterprise customers who also have their own downstream needs which are unique and unrelated to R&D.
- simianwords 1y agoNot sure why this is downvoted but I essentially agree. There's a lot of UX layer products and ideas that are not explored. I keep seeing comments like "AI is cool but the integration is lacking" and so on. Yes that is true and that is exactly what this is solving. My take has always been that the models are good enough now and its time for UX to catch up. There are so many ideas not explored.
- kamranjon 1y agoCan this be interpreted as anything other than a scheme to charge you for hidden token fees? It sounds like they're asking users to just hand over a blank check to OpenAI to let it use as many tokens as it sees fit? "ChatGPT can now do asynchronous research on your behalf. Each night, it synthesizes information from your memory, chat history, and direct feedback to learn what’s most relevant to you, then delivers personalized, focused updates the next day." In what world is this not a huge cry for help from OpenAI? It sounds like they haven't found a monetization strategy that actually covers their costs and now they're just basically asking for the keys to your bank account.
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- OfficialTurkey 1y agoWe don't charge per token in chatgpt
- throwuxiytayq 1y agoNo, it isn’t. It makes no sense and I can’t believe you would think this is a strategy they’re pursuing. This is a Pro/Plus account feature, so the users don’t pay anything extra, and they’re planning to make this free for everyone. I very much doubt this feature would generate a lot of traffic anyway - it’s basically one more message to process per day. OpenAI clearly recently focuses on model cost effectiveness, with the intention of making inference nearly free. What do you think the weekly limit is on GPT-5-Thinking usage on the $20 plan? Write down a number before looking it up.
- kamranjon 1y agoIf you think that inference at OpenAI is nearly free, then I got a bridge to sell you. Seriously though this is not speculation, if you look at the recent interview with Altman he pretty explicitly states that they underestimated that inference costs would dwarf training costs - and he also stated that the one thing that could bring this house of cards down is if users decide they don’t actually want to pay for these services, and so far, they certainly have not covered costs. I admit that I didn’t understand the Pro plan feature (I mostly use the API and assumed a similar model) but I think if you assume that this feature will remain free or that its costs won’t be incurred elsewhere, you’re likely ignoring the massive buildouts of data centers to support inference that is happening across the US right now.
- Imnimo 1y agoIt's very hard for me to envision something I would use this for. None of the examples in the post seem like something a real person would do.
- ImPrajyoth 1y agoSomeone at open ai definitely said: Let's connect everything to gpt. That's it. AGI
- casey2 1y agoAI doesn't have a pulse. Am I the only one creeped out by personification of tech?
- 9rx 1y ago"Pulse" here comes from the newspaper/radio lineage of the word, where it means something along the lines of timely, rhythmic news delivery. Maybe there is reason to be creeped out by journalists from centuries ago personifying their work, but that has little to do with tech.
- andrewmutz 1y agoBig tech companies today are fighting over your attention and consumers are the losers. I hate this feature and I'm sure it will soon be serving up content that is as engaging as the stuff the comes out of the big tech feed algorithms: politically divisive issues, violent and titillating news stories and misinformation.
- bob1029 1y ago> Pulse introduces this future in its simplest form: personalized research and timely updates that appear regularly to keep you informed. Soon, Pulse will be able to connect with more of the apps you use so updates capture a more complete picture of your context. We’re also exploring ways for Pulse to deliver relevant work at the right moments throughout the day, whether it’s a quick check before a meeting, a reminder to revisit a draft, or a resource that appears right when you need it. This reads to me like OAI is seeking to build an advertising channel into their product stack.
- DarkNova6 1y agoYes, this already reads like the beginning of the end. But I am personally pretty happy using Mistral so far and trust Altman only as far as I could throw him.
- fleischhauf 1y agohow strong are you ?
- WmWsjA6B29B4nfk 1y ago> OpenAI won’t start generating much revenue from free users and other products until next year. In 2029, however, it projects revenue from free users and other products will reach $25 billion, or one-fifth of all revenue.
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- Insanity 1y agoI’m a pro user.. but this just seems like a way to make sure users engage more with the platform. Like how social media apps try to get you addicted and have them always fight for your attention. Definitely not interested in this.
- pton_xd 1y agoYesterday was a full one — you powered through a lot and kept yourself moving at a fast pace. Might I recommend starting your day with a smooth and creamy Starbucks(tm) Iced Matcha Latte? I can place the order and have it delivered to your doorstep.
- nxpnsv 1y agoWhat a nightmare...
- notachatbot123 1y agoAnd that is just the in-your-face version. Real advertising is much more subtle and subconsciously manipulative. A system with lots of access to your emotions (what did you listen on (Spotify), what did you look at (webbrowser/apps), what did you eat, how did you sleep, who is near you) can persuade you without having to blatantly throw products in your face.
- myrmidon 1y agoThe scary point is when it gets good enough that people start to like and appreciate the embedded ads...
- bear141 1y agoI am hearing people with this standpoint more often while discussing privacy. Especially in people that work in marketing. They think they are helping the world discover novel products that they would otherwise miss out on. So, they also appreciate the invasive, no privacy practices of ad companies in their lives.
- ttul 1y ago"Wow, that argument with your ex-wife sure was spicy. And - hope I'm not prying in too much here - your lawyer may not be the best for this type of issue. May I suggest the firm Dewie Cheaterman & Howe? Y'know, I've already reached out and given them the lowdown, and since they're also using OpenAI's tech, they've sent back a quote, which I've accepted on your behalf. Also handled the intake call - you're welcome. The first court appearance is April 14th. I've prepared a 19-page affidavit ready for your signature. It's waiting in your inbox."
- dvrj101 1y agoso GPT tiktok in nutshell
- mvieira38 1y agoWhy?
- throwacct 1y agoThey're really trying everything. They need the Google/Apple ecosystem to compete against them. Fb is adding LLMs to all its products, too. Personally, I stopped using ChatGPT months ago in favor of other services, depending on what I'm trying to accomplish. Luckily for them, they have a big chunk of the "pie", so they need to iterate and see if they can form a partnership with Dell, HP, Canonical, etc, and take the fight to all of their competitors (Google, Microsoft, etc.)
- brap 1y ago>Fb is adding LLMs to all its products, too. FB’s efforts so far have all been incredibly lame. AI shines in productivity and they don’t have any productivity apps. Their market is social which is arguably the last place you’d want to push AI (this hasn’t stopped them from trying). Google, Apple and Microsoft are the only ones in my opinion who can truly capitalize on AI in its current state, and G is leading by a huge margin. If OAI and the other model companies want to survive, long term they’d have to work with MSFT or Apple.
- groby_b 1y agoI'm feeling obliged to rehash a quote from the early days of the Internet, when midi support was added: "If I wanted your web site to make sounds, I'd rub my finger on the screen" Behind that flippant response lies a core principle. A computer is a tool. It should act on the request of the human using it, not by itself. Scheduled prompts: Awesome. Daily nag screens to hook up more data sources: Not awesome. (Also, from a practical POV: So they plan on creating a recommender engine to sell ads and media, I guess. Weehee. More garbage)
- sailfast 1y agoAbsolutely not. No. Hard pass. Why would I want yet another thing to tell me what I should be paying attention to?
- sequoia 1y agoHere's a free product enhancement for OpenAI if they're not already doing this: A todo app that reminds you of stuff. say "here's the stuff I need to do, dishes, clean cat litter fold laundry and put it away, move stuff to dryer then fold that when it's done etc." then it asks about how long these things take or gives you estimates. Then (here's the feature) it checks in with you at intervals: "hey it's been 30 minutes, how's it going with the dishes?" This is basically "executive function coach." Or you could call it NagBot. Either way this would be extremely useful, and it's mostly just timers & push notifications.
- DenisM 1y agoThis will drive the opposite of user engagement.
- cadamsdotcom 1y agoHumbly I suggest vibecoding this just for yourself. Not building a product - just a simple tool to meet your own needs. That’s AI: permissionless tool building. It means never needing someone to like your idea enough or build it how they think you’ll use it. You just build it yourself and iterate it.
- dalmo3 1y agoThe one modern thing that didn't have a feed, and (in the best case) just did what you asked. Next week: ChatGPT Reels.
- enemyz0r 1y agoChatGPTeels
- jimmydoe 1y agoIt seems not useful for 95% of users today, but later can be baked into the hardware Ive designed. so, good luck, I guess?
- lqstuart 1y ago"AI" is a $100B business, which idiot tech leaders who convinced themselves they were visionaries when interest rates were historically low have convinced themselves will save them from their stagnating growth. It's really cool. The coding tools are neat, they can somewhat reliably write pain in the ass boilerplate and only slightly fuck it up. I don't think they have a place beyond that in a professional setting (nor do I think junior engineers should be allowed to use them--my productivity has been destroyed by having to review their 2000 line opuses of trash code) but it's so cool to be able to spin up a hobby project in some language I don't know like Swift or React and get to a point where I can learn the ins and outs of the ecosystem. ChatGPT can explain stuff to me that I can't find experts to talk to about. That's the sum total of the product though, it's already complete and it does not need trillions of dollars of datacenter investment. But since NVIDIA is effectively taking all the fake hype money and taking it out of one pocket and putting it in another, maybe the whole Ponzi scheme will stay afloat for a while.
- smurfsmurf 1y agoI've been saying this since I started using "AI" earlier this year: If you're a programmer, it's a glorified manual, and at that, it's wonderful. But beyond asking for cheat sheets on specific function signatures, it's pretty much useless.
- mikeg8 1y agoI’d disagree. I think there is still so much value it can offer if you really open your mind. For instance, I’ve met very few “programmers” that I’d consider even moderately competent at front-end, so the ability of a programmer to build and iterate a clean and responsive UI is just one example of a huge win for AI tools.
- sp4cec0wb0y 1y agoHow do I save comments in HN? This sums up everything I feel. Beautiful.
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- MisterBiggs 1y agoGreat way to sell some of those empty GPU cycles to consumers
- lexarflash8g 1y agoI'm thinking OpenAI's strategy is to get users hooked on these new features to push ads on them. Hey, for that recipe you want to try, have you considered getting new knives or cooking ware? Found some good deals. For your travel trip, found a promo on a good hotel located here -- perfect walking distance for hiking and good restaraunts that have Thai food. Your running progress is great and you are hitting strides? Consider using this app to track calories and record your workouts -- special promo for 14 day trial .
- thoughtpalette 1y agoWas thinking exactly the same. This correlates with having to another revenue stream and monetization strategy for OpenAi. In the end, it's almost always ads.
- bentt 1y agoEven if they don't serve ads, think of the data they can share in aggregate. Think Facebook knows people? That's nothing.
- xpe 1y agoAds? That’s quaint. Think “broad-spectrum mental manipulation”.
- bgwalter 1y agoSince every "AI" company frantically releases new applications, may I suggest OpenAI+ to copy the resounding success of Google+? Google+ is incidentally a great example of a gigantic money sink driven by optimistic hype.
- zelias 1y agoYet another category of startups killed by an incumbent
- duxup 1y agoHard to imagine this is anything useful beyond "give us all your data" in exchange for some awkward unprompted advice?
- IshKebab 1y agoThis could be amazing for dealing with schools - I get information from my kids' school through like 5 different channels: Tapestry, email, a newsletter, parents WhatsApp groups (x2), Arbor, etc. etc. And 90% of the information is not stuff I care about. The newsletter will be mostly "we've been learning about lighthouses this week" but they'll slip in "make sure your child is wearing wellies on Friday!" right at the end somewhere. If I could feed all that into AI and have it tell me about only the things that I actually need to know that would be fantastic. I'd pay for that. Can't happen though because all those platforms are proprietary and don't have APIs or MCP to access them.
- duxup 1y agoI feel you there, although it would also be complicated by those teachers who are just bad at technology and don't use those things well too. God bless them for teaching, but dang it someone get them to send emails and not emails with PDFs with the actual message and so on.
- psyclobe 1y agoChatGPT has given me wings to tackle projects I would've never had the impetus to tackle, finally I know how to use my oscilloscope and I am repairing vintage amps; fun times.
- boldlybold 1y agoI agree - the ability to lower activation energy in a field you're interested in, but not yet an expert, feels like having superpowers.
- niek_pas 1y agoThanks for phrasing it like this!
- crorella 1y agosame, I had a great idea (and a decently detailed plan) to improve an open source project, but never had the time and willpower to dive into the code, with codex it was one night to set it up and then slowing implementing every step of what I had originally planned.
- spike021 1y agosame for me but Claude. I've had an iphone game i've wanted to do for years but just couldn't spend the time consistently to learn everything to do it. but with Claude over the past three months i've been able to implement the game and even release it for fun.
- mihaaly 1y agoMay we look at it please? pure curiosity - also have similar thoughts you had. : )
- zelias 1y agoMan, my startup does this but exclusively for enterprises, where it actually makes sense
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- vbezhenar 1y agoIn the past, rich people had horses, while ordinary people walked. Today many ordinary people can afford a car. Can afford a tasty food every day. Can afford a sizeable living place. Can afford to wash two times a day with hot water. That's incredible life by medieval standards. Even kings didn't have everything we take for granted now. However some things are not available to us. One of those things is personal assistant. Today, rich people can offload their daily burdens to the personal assistants. That's a luxury service. I think, AI will bring us a future, where everyone will have access to the personal assistant, significantly reducing time spent on trivial not fun tasks. I think, this is great and I'm eager to live in that future. The direction of ChatGPT Pulse looks like that. Another things we don't have cheap access to are human servants. Obviously it'll not happen in the observable future, but humanoid robots might prove even better replacements.
- zeroonetwothree 1y agoTo be fair most people don’t have as complicated a life that they really need a personal assistant. How much would it really save you per day? 30 min? I mean that’s not nothing but it’s not revolutionary either. And of course there is the principal-agent problem so it’s not always a strict upgrade. For example, at my work people managers get admin assistants but most ICs do not, even at the same level. I think it’s fine, the value for me would be very low and I doubt it’s a good use of company resources.
- hirvi74 1y agoI could really benefit from a personal assistant because I basically have no executive functioning my mind. However, I would likely only benefit from having a human assistant because humans are harder to ignore than the nth automated notification I receive on a daily basis.
- anonbuddy 1y agoAll great, but what happens when personal assistant makes you think you are acting in your best interest, but actually they are just manipulating you to do 'something' OpenAi (some company) wants you to do? Without proper ways of migrating 'your data' between AI's (platforms), you are in mercy of that assistant without any other alternatives. Thats why GDPR and CPRA laws are becoming even more important in age of AI assistance.
- taf2 1y agoThis has been surprisingly helpful for me. I've been using this for a little while and enjoyed the morning updates. It has actually for many days for me been a better hacker news, in that I was able to get insights into technical topics i've been focused on ranging from salesforce, npm, elasticsearch and ruby... it's even helped me remember to fix a few bugs.
- tim333 1y agoCool. I think you are almost the only positive comment on the thread.
- ric2z 1y agotry clicking "Listen to article"
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- adverbly 1y agoThere's the monitization angle! A new channel to push recommendations. Pay to have your content pushed straight to people as a personalized recommendation from a trusted source. Will be interesting if this works out...
- StarterPro 1y agoWasn't this already implemented via google and apple separately?
- TZubiri 1y agoBreaking the request response loop and entering into async territory? Great! The examples used? Stupid. Why would I want AI generated buzzfeed tips style articles. I guess they want to turn chatgpt into yet another infinite scroller
- bentt 1y agoI am pleading with you all. Don't give away your entire identity to this or any other company.
- reactordev 1y agoCracks are emerging. Having to remind users of your relevancy with daily meditations is the first sign that you need your engagement numbers up desperately.
- ainch 1y agoTheir recent paper suggests the active user base is continuing to grow consistently with consistent/growing usage based on how long they've been using the app. https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/a253471f-8260-40c6-a2cc-aa93fe9f142e/economic-research-chatgpt-usage-paper.pdf https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/a253471f-8260-40c6-a2cc-aa93fe9f1...
- inerte 1y agoI think you meant app users churn less, not that more app usage brings new users. But I think you said the later? Doesn't make much sense. Anyway, attention == ads, so that's ChatGPT's future.
- reactordev 1y agoTo encourage more usage, wouldn’t it be in their best interest to write about all the different ways you can use it by claiming these are the ways people are using it? Show me an independent study.
- nycdatasci 1y ago“ This is the first step toward a more useful ChatGPT that proactively brings you…” Ads.
- tracerbulletx 1y agoHuman to robot servant: Do not speak unless spoken to machine!
- wilg 1y agoContrary to all the other posters, apparently, I think it's probably a good idea for OpenAI to iterate on various different ways to interact with AI to see what people like. Obviously in theory having an AI that knows a lot about what you're up to give you a morning briefing is potentially useful, it's in like every sci-fi movie: a voice starts talking to you in the morning about what's going on that day.
- Agraillo 1y agoI just thought that almost all existing LLMs are already able to do this with the following setup: using an alias "@you may speak now," it should create a prompt like this: "Given the following questions {randomly sampled or all questions the user asked before are inserted here}, start a dialog as a friend/coach who knows something about these interests and may encourage them toward something new or enlightening."
- redbell 1y agoHere's the announcement from Atlman: https://x.com/sama/status/1971297661748953263 https://x.com/sama/status/1971297661748953263 Quoted from that tweet: > It performs super well if you tell ChatGPT more about what's important to you. In regular chat, you could mention “I’d like to go visit Bora Bora someday” or “My kid is 6 months old and I’m interested in developmental milestones” and in the future you might get useful updates. At this point in time, I'd say: bye privacy, see you!
- johanyc 1y agoI don't consider this an invasion of privacy when it's you who tell chatpgt. It's just a like personal assistant. For it to be helpful, it has to know something about you. And you decide what you are willing to tell chatpgt.
- theartfuldodger 1y agoWas quite unimpressive. In general ChatGPT has been degrading in default quality for months
- romanovcode 1y agoLLMs hit diminishing returns this year. There is nothing more they can do and it shows. Don't get me wrong, the coding assistants are amazing and overall functionality of asking questions is great, not to mention government spying - cia and mossad are probably happy beyond beliefs. But I do not see any more use cases for it.
- xpe 1y ago> This is the first step toward a more useful ChatGPT that proactively brings you what you need, helping you make more progress so you can get back to your life. “Don’t burden yourself with the little details that constitute your life, like deciding how to interact with people. Let us do that. Get back to what you like best: e.g. video games.”
- Waterluvian 1y agoCONSUME.
- forgotTheLast 1y agoTormentNexusification
- englishspot 1y agosounds nice I guess, but reactiveness over proactiveness wasn't the pain point I've had with these LLM tools.
- anothernewdude 1y agoThe sort of application I'd much rather self-host.
- HardCodedBias 1y agoThis is the path forward. AI will, in general, give recommendations to humans. Sometimes it will be in response to a direct prompt. Sometimes it will be in response to stimuli it receives about the user's environment (glasses, microphones, gps). Sometimes it will be from scouring the internet given the preferences it has learnt of the user. There will be more of this, much more. And it is a good thing.
- R_mand 1y agoIs this their gateway to advertisement? Vendors pay to show up on your pulse?
- ivape 1y agoYes and Yes. Omg yes.
- neximo64 1y agoWill OpenAI leave anything for developers to build and the broader ecosystem? Its like they want to own everything
- AfterHIA 1y agoIn the words of Chief Wiggum once again: "this is going to get worse before it gets better." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi6iOFHLTdw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi6iOFHLTdw
- reassess_blind 1y agoLLM's are an incredible technology, but its clear they have stagnated and are a far cry from the AGI promise that the AI CEO's were touting in the beginning.
- dartharva 1y agoWow, this is a new level of desperation..
- imchillyb 1y ago"Hello, Chilly. It's been NINETEEN MINUTES, since we conversed. Is there something wrong? Maybe I can help..." --mute notifications-- --buzz-buzz-- "Sis? What's up, you never call me this time of day." "I'm worried. I just heard from your assistant..." "Wait, my assistant? "She said her name was Vaseline?" "Oh, God... That's my ChatGPT Pulse thing, I named her that as a joke. It's not a real person. It's one of those AI robot things. It kept trying to have conversations with me. I didn't want to converse. I got fed up and so I blocked notifications from the app and then it messaged you. It's a robot. Just... I mean... Ignore it. I'm having a crappy day. Gotta go. Dad's calling." "Hey Dad. No, there's nothing to worry about and that's not my assistant. That's chatgpt's new Pulse thing. I blocked it and it's... Never mind. Just ignore it. No don't block my number. Use call filtering for the time being. Gotta go. James is calling. Yeah love you too." "Hey Jay..." No thank you. Jealous girlfriend-ish bot would be a nightmare.
- sebastiennight 1y agoBold of you to think that all of these humans would need to be involved, vs. you getting a call from your sister's assistant directly
- seydor 1y agoOf course i will want to be distracted by my AI but first it has to track everything i say and do. And i wouldn't mind if it talked some smack about my colleagues
- jibal 1y agoThis is so NOT something I want.
- nenenejej 1y agoWhat problem does this solve. The silence is better. Reminds me of recommend engines in general. Or ads. Bothering my cognition with stuff I have to ignore.
- nextlevelwizard 1y agoLiterally no one is forcing you to use it if you gain nothing from it. Some people might get benefits from it. As surprising as it may seem to you the world is not tailored to your needs.
- augment_me 1y agoSome people dont want to spend time and energy engaging in the world and thinking about thinks like where to go, what to do, where to eat, what to eat, etc. Have this app and you can just be steered to have a nice life.
- parasti 1y agoYeah, this is just an algorithmic feed - or, at least, the first attempts. After a while you'll stop asking questions yourself and just scroll the feed, just like you do on every other platform.
- latexr 1y ago> What problem does this solve. People not getting sufficiently addicted and dependent on ChatGPT, and then not having enough means to monetise and control you opinion and consumption. Oh, you meant what problem does this solve for the user? They don’t really care about that, they’ll always do just enough to get you to continue using and defending their product.
- ulfw 1y agoThey seem desperate to find something that might have relevance (besides it's core product)
- negro_jj 1y agoHola
- tonyhart7 1y agois not this just privacy nightmare??? we have google that has search history,location etc now we give OpenAI our character,personalization etc how much dystopian that in the future there will be a product based on people feeling from 5 years ago????
- ENGNR 1y agoEwwwwwww
- elcapitan 1y agoThe solution is already there, now we just need the problems
- jdthedisciple 1y agoAs with everything in the AI space currently: A strange mix of dystopian yet blissfull...
- ensocode 1y agoIn the beginning, I was really curious about ChatGPT—a tool that could save me from useless blogs, pushy products, and research roadblocks. Then it started asking follow-up questions, and I got a bit uneasy… where is this trying to take me? Now it feels like the goal is to pull me into a discussion, ultimately consulting me on what? Buy something? Think something? It’s sad to see something so promising turn into an annoying, social-network-like experience, just like so many technologies before. As with Facebook or Google products, maybe we’re not the happy users of free tech—we’re the product. Or am I completely off here? For me, there’s a clear boundary between me controlling a tool and a tool broadcasting at me.
- latexr 1y agoDon’t forget that Sam Altman is also the cryptocurrency scammer who wants your biometric information. The goal was and will always be personal wealth and power, not helping others. https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoin-cryptocurrency-biometrics-web3/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi... https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-...
- pembrook 1y agoI lol'd at this. And he eats babies! Yea, humans tend to optimize for their own individual success. Do you not?
- Sayrus 1y agoSome actually promote ideas and defend ideals, individual "success" doesn't always correlates with fulfilment. For instance, working for a non-profit, providing help and food to people who need it, helping associations live or creating a company that maximize doing good instead of profit.
- latexr 1y ago> Do you not? At the expense of and with complete disregard for others, while telling them I’m doing it altruistically for their own good? I don’t, no. Do you?
- NiceWayToDoIT 1y agoI am so tired of this type of tech, it does not solves anything, but it looks like further pushing and intrusion into privacy, but it is not anymore just reading what we like and want, but trying to push us to do things and sell us things, lately from time I get that urge just to smash all my electronics and go somwwhere in woods (I know it is romantic dream and I would not survive more than 3 days it is just a feeling) ... Travel was interesting when you heard about exotic places and colors and smells, and then you go to experince nowadays they supply you with full pamper plan of what you going to see and experince it is not fun anymore, and all I see is like that Ghibli no-face monster, but instead of giving you money just asking you give-us-money give-us-money, money, moneeey ... then you arrive to destination and there all you get pushy salsmen, fake smiles and all you see give us money money money ... Edit 1: When I was growing up, a started with tech not because of money but because I belived we will endup in StarTrek society, solving real problems expanding civilisation, older I am all I see is money worshiping cult
- rightbyte 1y agoYe it is so freaking dystopic. And not even in a cool way. Dystopic dystopic. The zeitgaist delivering STNG would have been way better to handle this. We are more or less tied to hoping the cliff the drum beats are walking us off is a mirage.
- jwr 1y agoI don't understand how anyone would entrust OpenAI with private data about their entire life. Do people not care about privacy at all? Is everybody OK with being advertising/targeting meat? This sort of thing might arguably be useful, but only with local data processing.
- 0xbadc0de5 1y agoI agree with you on the importance of privacy. But if people can't muster enough outrage to leave Gmail, FB, IG, etc., then I'm afraid the answer to your questions might be "yes."
- jraby3 1y agoThe benefit outweighs the lack of privacy. I just uploaded recent blood tests and other health info into ChatGPT and then had it analyze what I could do to improve my health, specifically cholesterol and sugar. Then asked it to red team its advice and provide me with one or two things that would generate 80% of the results. It's pretty awesome having a private doctor that's read every study out there and then can generate advice that will make me live longer and healthier. My doctor certainly doesn't do that. As long as I'm in normal range he doesn't say anything.
- unfitted2545 1y agoSo what did it suggest?
- hirvi74 1y ago"I’ve reviewed your cholesterol results based on the blood test you have uploaded. Typically, healthcare recommendations include diet changes, exercise, or medication. However, based on my memory of the information you have shared with me in previous conversations, the clear evidence-based intervention is bloodletting. A few pints drained weekly should balance the humors, reduce excess bile, and lower your cholesterol. Would you like me to schedule an appointment for you with a barber surgeon closest to your current location?"
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- ceroxylon 1y agoIs this not cognitive offload on steroids?
- stared 1y agoWaiting for time when it can summarize my social media - so I won't need to waste time scrolling.
- frag 1y agoWelcome to cognitive capitalism https://defragzone.substack.com/p/welcome-to-cognitive-capitalism https://defragzone.substack.com/p/welcome-to-cognitive-capit...
- tomaytotomato 1y agoSo its basically a cron-job that checks previous conversations or shared data and invokes the LLM?
- giorgioz 1y agothat and 'it's a basically a web server responding http requests' would discount the whole freaking internet :D
- ZacnyLos 1y agoIs it like Google Now mixed with Twitter and Sora feed?
- guy4261 1y agoOh, just let two instances chat with each other and either let me read the conversation logs or have them present me what they learned/came up with since I've last checked on them. And that would be the end of all it all.
- sakisv 1y agoSo, this is Google Now but instead of one company having access to the data on their systems, now you're giving access to your data from different companies/sources to OpenAI. (I do miss Google Now, it really did feel like the future)
- dangus 1y agoThis product is accidentally demonstrating why today’s mediocre AI products like Apple Intelligence will be the eventual winners in the market. ChatGPT can’t become more useful until it’s integrated into your OS. The OS is what has the potential to provide a safe framework (APIs) to share data with an AI system. Being able to hook up Gmail and Google Calendar is nice but kinda useless if you have any of the other thousands of providers for email and calendar.
- caleb-allen 1y agoAnd this is where I'm tapping out. Ted Chiang has a great short story about a virtual assistant that slowly but methodically "nudges" all of its users over the course of years until everybody's lives are almost completely controlled by them. The challenge, then, is to actually operate independent of the technology and the company.
- guffins 1y ago“The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling” by Ted Chiang.
- dvcoolarun 1y agoI don’t think this is the world we were envisioning, where leading companies are suggesting content, tracking our history, and feeding us more socially optimized streams just to keep us hooked and give us dopamine hits. What I’d prefer is something like dailyflow (I saw it on HN yesterday): a local LLM that tracks my history and how I’m spending my time, then gives me hints when I’m off track — more aligned with what I actually want to see and where I want to go.
- Pocomon 1y agoMight as well call it WokeGPT as the results invariable lean to the left of diversity. You get a mini woke sermon at the end of each results. just in case you guilty of wrong thought.
- gutomotta 1y agoThis smells like ads.
- anonbuddy 1y agoThis is a signal for a future where either we own our 'memories' or companies own them for us. Technologies like Solid (https://solidproject.org/ https://solidproject.org/) are our only way forward. If you don't care you can use your chatgpts or whatever for whatever you want. But there are people who DO CARE about their memories. We are no longer speaking about tiktok or instagram feeds and algorithms, as some people compare the addictive side of this (ie. OAPulse) kind of technologies to.
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- tzury 1y agoFrom my perspective, the core of OpenAI's current situation can be understood through a few key observations and predictions. First, over $55 billion raised since 2022 has fueled monumental, yet sometimes subtle, leaps in model capability that go far beyond the visible user interface. The real progress isn't just in the chat window, but in the underlying reasoning and multimodal power. This investment is being funneled into what I see as a relentless and unsustainable cycle of spending: the high cost of training next-generation models, the immense expense of running user queries (inference), and a fierce bidding war for top AI talent. Based on this, it's clear to me that the current "growth at all costs" phase is unsustainable. This reality will inevitably force a strategic shift from a pure focus on innovation to the pressing need for a viable, profitable business model. Therefore, I predict they will be forced to take specific cost-saving steps. To manage the colossal expense of inference, models will likely be subtly "tuned down," masking reduced computational depth with more verbose, fluffy output. Finally, I anticipate that a logical, if controversial, cost-saving step will involve the company using its own AI to justify workforce reductions, championing this as the new era of automated productivity they are selling to the world. And by the way, downvoting this won’t prevent the unavoidable future.
- myrmidon 1y agoI mostly agree, but I think they are in a overall better position than most social media/messaging/video hosting platforms were over the last decades, because a significant fraction of their customers is willing to pay for this kind of service already (they are not inevitably forced to rely on ads for revenue) and cost per token (for OpenAI) can reasonably be expected to decrease continuously (unlike costs for ridesharing startups like uber, or the e-scooter thingies).
- rhetocj23 1y ago"Therefore, I predict they will be forced to take specific cost-saving steps" They are already doing that dude with the router... lol wake up. Youre late to the party.
- dmonay 1y agoKen Liu has a story about what the Pulse will evolve into https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/the-perfect-match/ https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/the-perfect-match...
- hu3 1y agothanks! (offtopic but the website could use some mobile CSS, it's hard to read on mobile by default)
- hrpnk 1y agoThe name reminds me of https://linear.app/docs/pulse https://linear.app/docs/pulse which provides regular updates on projects tracked in the tool.
- hereme888 1y ago> Centillion is not some big scary government. It’s a private company, whose motto happens to be “Make things better!” Haha, good shot at Big Tech. They always devolve to corporate profits over ethics.
- anshumankmr 1y agoDoes this seem a step closer to getting ads on ChatGPT?
- kaicianflone 1y ago$200 a month for data cards is insanity. It sounds like virtue-signaling or bs features for VC's. Idk why this wasn't pushed to the consumer plus level. Here's an excerpt from ChatGPT on why this could be a "bubble" feature: By sticking Pulse behind the $200 Pro tier, OpenAI is signaling it’s for: VCs, consultants, analysts → people who can expense it as “deal flow intel.” Enterprise & finance people who live in dashboards and daily reports. Folks who don’t blink at $200/month because they already burn way more on data feeds, research subscriptions, or Bloomberg terminals. In other words, it feels less like a consumer feature and more like a “bubble luxury” signal — “If you need Pulse, you’re in the club that can afford Pro.” The irony is, Pulse itself isn’t really a $200/mo product — it’s basically automated research cards. But bundling it at that tier lets OpenAI: Frame it as exclusive (“you’re not missing out, you’re just not at the level yet”). Keep the Plus plan sticky for the masses. Extract max revenue from people in finance/AI hype cycles who will pay. It’s like how Bloomberg charges $2k/month for terminals when most of the raw data is public — you’re paying for the packaging, speed, and exclusivity. I think you’re right: Pulse at $200 screams “this is a bubble feature” — it’s monetizing the hype while the hype lasts.
- bonoboTP 1y agoI expect that soon enough it will also have a personalized image feed entirely made of generated images (and at some point videos). Edit: ah Meta already did that today (https://about.fb.com/news/2025/09/introducing-vibes-ai-videos/ https://about.fb.com/news/2025/09/introducing-vibes-ai-video...)
- ArchieIndian 1y agoWe have built https://hopit.ai https://hopit.ai. We have not been running the agents right now but you folks can experience what is it to make everything bingeable and beautiful.
- ArchieIndian 1y agoI mean, it is expensive to run those. We started this as a hobby project. Can switch on the agents if folks like the format
- smeej 1y agoThe thing I hate the absolute most about ChatGPT and that ultimately made me quit using it is that it absolutely will not stop making suggestions at the ends of its replies, asking me if I want some specific thing next. Not once, not a single time, has it ever been something I actually wanted. I'm sick of telling the damn thing "No." I have researched every possible setting. I have tried every possible prompt. But apparently "You are a helpful AI" is built into it at some non-overridable system level, where no matter what you tell it nor where, it will not stop making suggestions. The prospect that it could now initiate conversations is like my own personal hell. I thought the existing system was the most obnoxious functionality anyone could build into a system. Now, not only have I found out I was wrong, but I'm afraid to assume this next version will be the last in this parade of horrors.
- hirvi74 1y agoThis is not what I want from LLMs. Hey ChatGPT or Claude, I have still have clothes in the dryer and dishes in the sink. Do you mind taking care of those for me? Now, that is something I'd pay hundreds a month for.
- Revisional_Sin 1y agoThanks, I hate it.
- selinkocalar 1y agoReal-time usage monitoring for AI APIs makes sense. We've had issues where OpenAI goes down and it takes us way too long to notice because the failures aren't obvious. The cost tracking piece is probably more valuable though. AI API bills can get expensive really quickly