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They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955)
- Avicebron 2y ago[flagged]
- anigbrowl 2y agoConfirmation bias. I watch one PBS news program and they cover white people's problems in rural America all the time. They just cover other people's problems as well.
- smaudet 2y agoI hear you. And the reason is "drumroll", people like Musk. How exactly, is it that billionaires have continued to do so well for so long while the working class hasn't experienced a pay increase since the 70s? You know pays those salaries, right? Big companies and the billionaires who chair them. Of course, good job f'ing yourself over further, that safety net you might have had? Gone under Musk.
- subsistence234 2y agoAll the world's billionaires own about $20T. Distributing that equally among all the people of the world would provide each a $75 annuity indefinitely.
- smaudet 2y agoIt should be quite a bit more than that, world population is 8 billion, assuming 70 percent of that is of of working age (normal distribution), and about 95% of that would substantially benefit from a yearly annuity, it would be 3760 average per person, or double that for average households. And there's compounding factors, money makes money, I could easily see the influx of wealth to the lower classes causing a boom of wealth we haven't seen since the 60s. Even if you were to concentrate most of that wealth in the USA, by trickle down economics (also redistribution across national lines is difficult), that works to about 120k per individual here. That's a Six Figure Salary for Every American who want one. Let that sink in.
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- crooked-v 2y agoYes, it's good to be careful to not label as people as fascists unless they do things like, for example, literally do the Nazi salute while publicly addressing a crowd.
- klipt 2y agoOr try to rule by executive power while ignoring the Constitution, Congress, checks and balances... Of course it's not only fascists who can be totalitarian, but totalitarianism is a bad smell in any form of government and should be avoided.
- OCASMv2 2y ago[flagged]
- cocacola1 2y agohttps://thedecisionlab.com/biases/illusory-truth-effect https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/illusory-truth-effect
- dashundchen 2y agoWe all saw the Nazi salutes with our own eyes, the man and his ex girlfriend both follow and interact with avowed white supremacists and Nazis on his own platform. The lie is coming from Musk and his cult of supporters.
- OCASMv2 2y ago> We all saw the Nazi salutes with our own eyes You all decided to interpret his gesture as the nazi salute. Big difference.
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- RangerScience 2y ago> What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it. Welp.
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- BytesAndGears 2y agoEdit: thanks for all of the replies, I’m questioning my framing here now due to some smart people’s thoughts.. I suggest reading the full thread, as there are some interesting comments. I see the obvious parallels to Trump, and I agree completely (and hate that it is happening). But I feel like I also see a lot of parallels to the democrats. Deciding Kamala would be the candidate without any public vote, for example. They both have aspects that heavily mirror the article. I normally am not a fan of both-sides’ing an issue, but this seems like a literal case of everyone in the government basically performing that they disagree with the other, while marching down similar paths. They fight on issues that get people excited, while conspiring together to inch towards a “mystery government” which we must just trust. I believe the path forward is to find things in common with our neighbors rather than politicians. Even if we disagree on some political views with our neighbors, we likely still have a lot more in common with them than any politician. And, if you disagree, really truly read this with a critical eye, imagining the other side. Listen to their complaints. Because they feel the same way about your side. I’ve literally heard smart people in both political parties call each other authoritarian. So maybe the issues are actually with both sides.
- dontlaugh 2y agoI think you are correct precisely because both US major parties are on the same side, the side of capital.
- groby_b 2y agoIt is probably good to remember that this talks about the experience of a German, under Hitler's Nazi government. This isn't a text that refers to current events. It talks about what happened. How things progressed. Why everybody just ambled along. How it was possible that so many just went along. If you think there are parallels to current times, or if you feel this attacks you or your beliefs, there is value in thinking about "why". What is it about this story that reaches you? What are you willing to learn from it?
- cyberlurker 2y agoI don’t see the call to action. It describes perfectly the feeling of hopelessness I’ve had for years now. The election was the last chance and everyone blew it.
- frangfarang 2y ago[dead]
- _yb2s 2y agoThere is still a lot we can do. Every demagogue and authoritarian regime collapses eventually, often quickly- and they haven't even succeeded in seizing total control yet. As long as we are alive, we can resist. Moreover, even under the worst possible situations, individuals can find meaning and purpose. Viktor Frankl's book "Man's Search for Meaning" on surviving concentration camps as well as James Stockdale's books on surviving as a POW in Vietnam show firsthand that it is possible. "You have a right to make them hurt you, and they don't like to do it." -James Stockdale
- smaudet 2y agoIt is ironic that the most useful thing Musk and Trump will do is wake people up to the fact their house is on fire...
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- pagutierrezn 2y agoTo make matters worse, this is not only "rehappening" in the US. It's global
- blooalien 2y agoWhat a way to utterly waste the likely last few generations of "civilized" humanity on Earth... :(
- whatever1 2y agoNobody really remembers, hence, the same mistakes will be made.
- labster 2y agoSome people remember. I have a neighbor who was a child living in Berlin in ‘45. Looks like the story of her life will have literary bookends.
- acomjean 2y agoMy mom was born in late 1930s Germany. She remembers being bombed out of her appartment. She came to US and is not happy with the way things are going here.
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- pjc50 2y ago> these are hypotheticals for a reason! Because they have zero connection to reality? Can I have a pony in this hypothetical too? How do we get to any of them while having to climb over the additional hurdle of a far right anti-science government?
- amarcheschi 2y ago
- muglug 2y agoI don’t feel like the comparisons to Hitler are useful, at least when talking about the current US administration. There are lots more recent examples — Russia in the early 2000s under Putin, Hungary under Orban, South Africa under Apartheid — where democratic norms were gradually eroded, and the international community just sort of sighed and said "oh well, the people have spoken".
- ImaCake 2y agoI think this mostly comes down to (1) people are more aware of Nazi Germany and thus its easier to use that context than another and (2) the Nazis were extreme even by comparison to their contemporaries and thus have been (presumably) studied the most.
- muglug 2y agoYeah, but it breaks down because Trump also knows that history, and knows that people want to compare him to Hitler, so he does a bunch of things that make the comparison harder.
- NomDePlum 2y agoCan you elaborate on those things?
- muglug 2y agoTrump says things like "there's no greater friend to Israel than me" and "I'm the best president for black people". One of his most viscerally anti-immigrant lackeys (Stephen Miller) is Jewish. Trump’s choice of "illegals" as the cause of America's woes is smart, because (1) they can’t vote and (2) even American-born children of undocumented immigrants hear that and think "oh but he's not talking about us". He was careful to not say "Latino immigrants", even though that's what a lot of his white supporters heard.
- NomDePlum 2y ago
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- tivert 2y agoOh, goody. Isn't it great the Democrats prioritized keeping "the groups" and their donors happy? You know, instead of actually reorganizing around countering the existential threat they complained so loudly about?
- Neil44 2y agoWell they've tried absolutely nothing and they're all out of ideas
- ed 2y agoFor those who want to do something, what is the 2025 version of Indivisible?
- nycticorax 2y agoIndivisible still exists, and is still active: https://indivisible.org/ https://indivisible.org/
- kzrdude 2y agoThere are protests planned for today (Wednesday) across the US
- _kava 2y agoHonestly, what would these protests do? Serious question. Let say you manage to achieve the unthinkable and bring a huge amount of people on the street, heck let say you are so successful that you also get a full on national strike going, what then? Do you think it would affect those in charge right now? He would not care. He is already ruining the US economy and alliances. Why would he care if some people he does not answer to get on the street and complain? In fact, it may even give him the excuse to declare an emergency and enact even worse acts. And you know half the country support him. He has the army on his side. The court is on his side. And worst of all, the law is beneath him, literally. What would these protests do? I swear, serious question. Help me understand. What do you hope to achieve?
- cheesemonster 2y ago[dead]
- samiwami 2y agois your argument that protests do nothing, therefore people should stay home?
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- kevinventullo 2y agoThis may come as a shocker to you, but there are people in this country who are driven by morals, not money. It’s true! Real life people, who vote and everything, who genuinely care for the poor and needy.
- spiderfarmer 2y agoOkay let's take another reference. You're applauding an emperor that has no clothes.
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- dang 2y agoPersonal attacks will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong another commenter is or you feel they are. There's at least one other recent case of this by your account (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42945640 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42945640). That's not good. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. Fortunately the rest of your recent comment history looks fine, so this should be easy to fix.
- gambiting 2y agoIt would be awesome if HN stopped looking at every single thing through the lens of US politics. "liberals" doesn't even mean anything in most of the world, and indeed I struggle identifying what kind of group you're talking about. The text is about historical events that have already happened - you can take whatever lesson you want out of them, you can see parallels with your own country or you don't have to. But not everything is about America.
- LandoCalrissian 2y agoPresident is unilaterally shutting down federal agencies. If this goes on there really isn't a constitution anymore, not in practice anyway.
- pwatsonwailes 2y agoYou never have one except because everyone decides they do. The moment anyone with a modicum of power decides to say it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist.
- Waterluvian 2y agoI think it’s important to clarify that in this case, having a “modicum of power” is in the form of being able to say it doesn’t exist without a riot and a beheading. It’s not in the form of money or command of an army, though those things definitely help.
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago> In 1942 there were 110,000 Japanese-American citizens, in good standing, law abiding people, who were thrown into internment camps simply because their parents were born in the wrong country. That's all they did wrong. They had no right to a lawyer, no right to a fair trial, no right to a jury of their peers, no right to due process of any kind. The only right they had was...right this way! Into the internment camps. > Just when these American citizens needed their rights the most...their government took them away. and rights aren't rights if someone can take em away. They're priveledges. That's all we've ever had in this country is a bill of TEMPORARY priviledges; and if you read the news, even badly, you know the list get's shorter, and shorter, and shorter. George Carlin, years ago. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1242679-boy-everyone-in-this-country-is-running-around-yammering-about https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1242679-boy-everyone-in-thi...
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- LarsDu88 2y agoHackerNews is suddenly getting political content at the very top, right after PG slams the "woke" agenda. Is the HN crowd finally waking up to what a danger to the US the "most successful startup entrepreneur of all time" is?
- 9dev 2y ago…and the YC CEO defending the hostile takeover of government agencies by (smart, I give you that, but still) teenagers.
- praptak 2y agoTrumpists may be against democracy but they seem pro capital or at least pro big tech capital.
- thrance 2y agoFascists always are, that's how they gain enough support to gain power. Hitler had a lot of friends in the capitalist class, and the socialists and communists were the first to go under his rule.
- mandmandam 2y agoI hadn't seen that, and am not finding it.. Have you got a link?
- praptak 2y agoClosest I found is this one: ```I'm generally sympathetic to what you're doing. But I hope you will take your time and do it carefully. This isn't just a company," Graham wrote on X during a back-and-forth with Musk on Tuesday.``` While not technically defending it's still pretty disgusting. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tech-investor-paul-graham-tells-elon-musk-to-proceed-carefully-with-doge-this-isn-t-just-a-company/ar-AA1yrsPM https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tech-investor-paul...
- hcfman 2y agoThis part is interesting: "What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security." That has already happened here in the Netherlands. Except it was organised crime. It's so difficult to fight we can't just convict them in court anymore, we need to fight them extrajudicially". So the RIEC was formed "Regional information expertise centrum". And extra judicial actions called "interventions" do happen and they do commit crimes to innocent civilians not related to organised crime in anyway. And they get away with it. And the Dutch population is by and large blissfully unware of what has happened. Most have no idea what that organisation is, but that organisation controls the police, the council, the tax department and about 13 sub-parts of government and gives them orders to carry out as part of their "interventions". The general population would not even know the name RIEC. All they know are recent advertisements on TV encouraging people to report any suspicious behaviour happening in their neighbourhoods. These people are stupid. They could report something they misinterpreted and unwittingly destroy some innocent persons lives with the extra-judicial interventions that followed. But yeah, as someone below has said, what's now happening is on a whole other level.
- jvdongen 2y agoAs far as their public website tells (https://www.riec.nl/ https://www.riec.nl/) the RIEC is about a targeted bundling of knowledge, experience and resources to better deal with the effects of organized crimes, instead of everyone working in their own little silo. The "interventions" are basically the forming and supporting of work groups / special interest groups around a specific organized crime phenomenon, with the intent of devising an approach to deal with the specific phenomenon. They publish a report of those so-called interventions here: https://www.riec.nl/documenten/publicaties/2024/12/18/interventies-van-het-liec https://www.riec.nl/documenten/publicaties/2024/12/18/interv...
- noduerme 2y ago"The Germans" is an absolutely jaw dropping read, a series of interviews with average German citizens and low-level nazi party members, conducted a decade or so after the war, by an American Jewish journalist. It shows, in first hand accounts, the banality of evil and how easily it can prevail if people do nothing. It is an account of modern tyranny and everyday collaboration. The parallels in the feeling of what's happened in American society, particularly the silence, confusion and cowering now of anyone who should oppose a hostile takeover and dismantling of our democracy and our laws, are striking. It should have been required reading in American schools, when there was still time to educate people against these dangers.
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- subsistence234 2y agosure, making the government smaller is basically the same as putting the government in control of everything.
- palmotea 2y ago> sure, making the government smaller is basically the same as putting the government in control of everything. Come on. A "hostile takeover and dismantling of our democracy" is completely orthogonal to the size of government, before or after the takeover.
- subsistence234 2y agoHow do you clean up a corrupt organization?
- maeln 2y agoSurely not by appointing other oligarch and cronies at high position of said organization.
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- molteanu 2y agoDon't let hacker news become habituated with politics.
- mandmandam 2y agoGenocide is above and beyond 'politics'. So is a bunch of tech bros being given physical access to the US Treasury under the direction of a tech oligarch, in defiance of dozens of laws. Entire federal agencies are being shut down on a whim, again, in defiance of dozens of laws and safeguards. These things directly impact the tech community in a massive way - just look at Google dropping their pledge not to use AI for military purposes, this week of all weeks.
- etchalon 2y agoI was recommended this book a few months ago, by a friend's partner. Reading it was difficult, and impossible not to see the parallels of what we were approaching. This excerpt is phenomenal on its own, but the full book is worth your time.
- dr_dshiv 2y ago>"Once the war began," my colleague continued, "resistance, protest, criticism, complaint, all carried with them a multiplied likelihood of the greatest punishment. Mere lack of enthusiasm, or failure to show it in public, was ‘defeatism.’ You assumed that there were lists of those who would be ‘dealt with’ later, after the victory. Goebbels was very clever here, too. He continually promised a ‘victory orgy’ to ‘take care of’ those who thought that their ‘treasonable attitude’ had escaped notice. And he meant it; that was not just propaganda. And that was enough to put an end to all uncertainty. Terrifying. This anti-speech is anathema to all Americans. Let’s remember that. By recalling what all Americans have as a sacred self-belief (myth even), that America is anti-Nazi and anti-dictatorship and pro-freedom and pro-speech, we can effectively strengthen our ties. What seems to drive Trump at his core is not ideology, but ego. On their path to power, both he and Musk could have been democrats, but they were rejected. Together, they share the goal of creating the greatest presidency in American history. At some point, this may be a better scenario than the alternative. The election is past: “winning” and defeating the opposition are less relevant now than creative strategies for generating positive outcomes from the current situation. Outrage feeds the demons. There may be other, more effective (but less emotionally satisfying) paths to mutual-self-interest. In conflict with the very powerful, redirection often works better than direct opposition.
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- Waterluvian 2y ago> "You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. I felt this for four years straight last time. But what scares me far more is if very large, recklessly shocking occasions occur and the resisters are nowhere to be seen. I keep hoping to wake up to footage of mass protests and riots and fires and anger and aggressive intolerance of these shocking occasions.
- Loughla 2y agoWhen he was first in office there were protests all over. I attended multiple. Where are they now?
- vintagedave 2y ago> How is this to be avoided, among ordinary men, even highly educated ordinary men? Frankly, I do not know. I do not see, even now. Many, many times since it all happened I have pondered that pair of great maxims, Principiis obsta and Finem respice—‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’ But one must foresee the end in order to resist, or even see, the beginnings. One must foresee the end clearly and certainly and how is this to be done, by ordinary men or even by extraordinary men? Things might have. And everyone counts on that might. The rest of this excerpt is harrowing.
- gspr 2y agoThis is one of the best books I ever read. I picked it up pretty randomly a few years back. It changed me. Before reading it, I was firmly of the opinion that good people (like me! and everyone I like!) will (mostly) resist a fascist takeover. At least passively resist. As in not actively collaborate. Mostly. Reading that book obliterated almost all of those beliefs. (What little was left was destroyed by having children, and actually directly experiencing what it means when people say "I'll do anything for them"). I think it's the most upset I've been since I was a child and asked my parents why people suffering in a war on the news didn't just say that they don't wanna be in the game anymore. Because that was the rule that applied in kindergarten. This all sounds very depressing. But read the book. It's a damn important book. (And it's very short and almost free – just read it).
- bigbacaloa 2y ago[dead]
- ceving 2y agoDuplicate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25083315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25083315
- dang 2y agoOn HN, reposts are fine (which is to say, aren't treated as dupes) when a story hasn't had significant attention in the last year or so. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. But it's great to link to examples of past threads, because readers like to look at them—so this was a good contribution! just not with the tag "duplicate". Edit: basically, there are two disjoint cases when it makes sense to link to a previous submission of the same story: (1) when a prior submission of the same story had significant attention in the last year or so, then linking to it with the word "duplicate" or "dupe" is helpful; or (2) when a prior submission had significant attention more than a year ago, then linking to it with the phrase "past discussion" or "discussed at" (or something like that) is helpful. (And for completeness: when a submission has not gotten significant discussion, it's best not to link to it at all. There are plenty of those in the archives, and they're mostly harmless.)
- dredmorbius 2y agoThanks for that last note, it's been my argument for a while and I've had a few discussions with people on that point, e.g., <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40849927 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40849927>. I'll try to remember this comment to share for those cases. I'll occasionally note recent prior posts which aren't dupes on account of minimal discussion (< 20 comments, generally), just because I remember those appearances and wasn't immediately sure myself whether or not the present submission counts as dupes or not. E.g., <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33186713 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33186713>, <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41099760 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41099760>, <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31864872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31864872>, <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002384 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41002384>, and <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39242203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39242203> all below limits, <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33942714 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33942714> just over the 1 year threshold. And for multiple posts on a given topic see: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41422938 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41422938> (the indefagitable ChrisArchitect called the dupe, I explained it). 2nd chance queue can also cause confusion, generally not dupes: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29071219 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29071219>.
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- samirillian 2y agothere are certainly some parallels with what's happening today but analogies are always difficult. i could be wrong but i really don't think of this administration as murderous in the way that Nazi Germany was. Of course, the biggest asterisk beside the analogy is the lack of warmongering. Like, kind of the most important part, and Trump is acting more like Woodrow Wilson in that respect. Didn't Woodrow Wilson once say that the US isn't a melting pot but a garbage can?
- ceejayoz 2y agoAnnexing Gaza is likely to be a murderous undertaking, if it develops beyond yesterday’s public fever dream.
- FergusArgyll 2y agoOne of the great (and unexpected!) side effects of voting for Trump has been getting all the immature hysterical people off of the AI threads and into these Fascist Nazi threads. I, for one, appreciate the absence of the European degrowth types
- loongloong 2y agohttps://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-nazi-rise-to-power/the-nazi-rise-to-power/the-role-of-economic-instability/ https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-nazi-rise-to-power... (Since there are posts on economy related factors and the OP was about Nazi Germany) At a different level is this somewhat reflective of USA today? (USA today is by no means poor, although it is true that the bottom 50% has stagnated for quite long)
- 0xEF 2y agoThis is hard to read. I see myself in some of these words. I am by no means complicit in what is currently happening in the US as a US citizen, but I genuinely have no idea how to fight any of it. People want to throw words around like "resist" and "disrupt" and any other revolutionary buzz words, but the fact is I still have to get up every morning, pour my coffee and go do my job because that paycheck is what allows me to do anything else at all, in my life. I don't have the luxury of risking termination because I decided to call in sick to go to a march at my state's capitol. I voted accordingly, I signed the petitions, I followed the rules and keep a strong moral compass to be a good human to other humans, upholding a "do no harm" policy that I take quite seriously. None of this was supposed to happen, and yet it did. Reading this excerpt makes me feel like the Germans the book is about, the ones that history can look back on with a heavily judgemental 20/20 vision powered by the historical perspectives that came _after_ these people's lifetimes. I am not capable of being so self-righteous that I can look back on German citizens during the Nazi regime and say "well, they should have known better." We never really know how we will react to circumstances until we are impacted by them. People go around thinking they won't fall for phishing emails and yet it is one of the most successful methods employed by predatory scammers. We might believe all our decisions are our own, while marketing has mastered the art of subtle manipulation and dark patterns that heavily govern our consumer habits. Our minds imagine arguments or stressful situations where we are able to consider multiple paths, choosing the one where we come out on top, but when we are actually in those moments, we fall back on irrational decision making and emotional reactions. I think we got to now the same way the Germans did back then, pointed out in the article; > It was all rigmarole, of course, but it consumed all one's energies, coming on top of the work one really wanted to do. You can see how easy it was, then, not to think about the fundamental things. One had no time. We are busy, distracted, inundated with things that want to control our attentions and have been for years. We were primed for this exact thing to happen to us, and now we are in it. The story of the frog in boiling water comes to mind. Thanks for sharing. I, and so many others, have much to think about and reconsider about what we want our lives to mean.
- KaiserPro 2y agoThe "oh we need to educate" stage is well passed. What I dont understand is what the democrats and constitutionalists are doing? Where are they? Trump only cares for loyalty and power. Hes also really thin skinned, so what mystifies me is how he's let Musk take all that power from him? Why aren't the "opposition" hammering the point that Musk is/has effectively usurped Trump? If I wanted to eject Musk's control over the state, that is where I would start. Trump knows that musk yeets anyone who he sees as weak, so why not exploit that to get some level of constitutional control back?
- intended 2y agothey are. search for it. If their response isnt strong enough, I highly reccomend forumlating your own, and add to the voices pushing against it.
- KaiserPro 2y ago> search for it. I mean that's the key point right? if its not getting through then the medium of delivery is not working. Why are appointments not being delayed? There are many logistical hurdles that can be put up to get a better outcome for the _country_, but it appears they are not being used. it seems that people are more concerned with getting fund-raising for the next election, which seems a bit premature, given that the dollar might not be the currency in 4 years time.
- intended 2y agoWell, you are in an environment where things aren’t going to be given to you. So you need to search. And it’s a Google search, so all things considered, it’s still doable.
- abraxas 2y agoMore than half of you nerds voted for this shit and you're supposed to be the intelligent ones. I lost all hope.
- amai 2y agoDictators want you to loose all hope. Then it is easier for them to rule.
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- lolc 2y agoThe text itself is thought-provoking and worth a read. One takeaway is that it's easy to get lost in the churn; not as a society to take action when it's easier for each individual to mind their own business. And let society be torn apart. Is this what is happening now? > do your part to kick this content down No.
- An_ordanary_man 2y agoThe West harbors a profound moral delusion, judging the world through selective standards while ignoring its own historical crimes. It preaches human rights and democracy while supporting oppressive regimes that serve its interests, arbitrarily categorizing violence based on convenience. This hypocritical narrative of moral superiority masks systemic oppression, allowing the West to maintain its global moral high ground without genuine accountability.
- tim333 2y agoComparing this to the current situation in America, both Hitler and Musk/Trump largely said what they wanted to do before hand: >Mein Kampf, in essence, lays out the ideological program Hitler established... Hitler's revolutionary goals included expulsion of the Jews, and the unification of German peoples into one Greater Germany. Hitler desired to restore German lands to their greatest historical extent, real or imagined. (Wikipedia) On the other hand Musk/Trump are mostly about reducing government bureaucracy, excessive wokeness, illegal immigration and the like which is quite a different thing.
- lolc 2y agoMaybe that was lost in all the other noise domestically but in international news the extremist was quoted musing about annexing Panama, Canada, and Greenland. And recently Gaza? Not sure about Mexico.
- readthenotes1 2y agoWell I for one an quite relieved by this. Trump has done none of this in secret. He told us what he was going to do. The surprise is finding about the foreign spending that cannot possibly advance USA strategic interests.
- amai 2y agoRussians still think they are free.