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Driver accused of DUI tracks missing laptop to Illinois State trooper's house
- codevark 5mo ago[dead]
- dubious2 5mo agoOne should have right to demand a blood test.To many people can't pass field with out having a drink or smoke.To many have disabilities,old,whatever.
- AngryData 5mo agoThat's because field sobriety tests aren't designed to find out if people are actually impaired, they are designed to give cops a reason to arrest people purely on their own discretion even when they otherwise lack any evidence of wrongdoing. And in doing so it boosts both the local cops and court's funding through mandatory court fines and fees and programs when they hammer down on people too poor to afford a lawyer.
- 1234letshaveatw 5mo agosource?
- close04 5mo agoTheir obvious ineffectiveness for the stated purpose, combined with the effectiveness for the unstated, hidden purpose.
- infecto 5mo agoI don’t think this it’s worth being reported for asking for a source on this kind of claim. I would argue of a middle ground though. I think field tests origins came from a good intent of trying to distinguish intoxicated drivers but has morphed over the years and used to give reason to search your belongings. I think the original post is wrong, the intent is not to arrest people but they are commonly used as a means to get cause to search your vehicle. And I don’t have a source, so it’s anecdotal but one of those things where you read enough of these cases and even see how cops are trained that the intent for most stops unrelated to genuine traffic violations is to get cause to search the vehicle. I think back to some of those corridors within the United States where law enforcement abuse cash forfeiture laws to take peoples money.
- rationalist 5mo agoI recall that a lawyer who talked about how they were developed and explained how they work, came to that conclusion. The tests are completely subjective, and the way they are graded means that unless you are an Olympic-level athlete, you will fail it. Can you balance on one foot without swaying or puting the other foot down (even when you first start and find your balance), with your eyes closed, for one minute? Might I suggest that you research it and post what you find.
- array_key_first 5mo agoI don't know, like, common sense and your eyes? Think of a field sobriety test. Now think of if that actually tests for sobriety. There, there's your source.
- dimitrios1 5mo agoSo whats the solution? 37 people die every day in a crash involving an alcohol impaired driver. Do we think if we inhibit the police's ability to arrest drunk drivers, the world will be a better place? People are clearly not going to stop drinking and driving. I am neither left nor right, but I feel like I need to say this much more in spaces that heavily lean left -- I wish we would focus on the actual crimes the police are there to stop as much as we do the police reform.
- tym0 5mo agoWhat other countries do? A chemical test on the field and a more accurate one when they get to the police station.
- dimitrios1 5mo agoNo other country relies on road travel to the extent of America, so I am not sure there is a good comparison to make.
- kube-system 5mo agoThat's a reason the US needs better enforcement tools, not worse ones.
- antiframe 5mo agoWe have a bigger road network. We have a larger road travel infrastructure. So, we should have enough chemical test units to cover our infrastructure.
- cestith 5mo agoIf we can pay for the roads and the patrols, we can pay to equip the patrols. Bigger needn’t equal worse.
- cwillu 5mo agoThe police aren't stopping the crime, therefore the police need to be reformed. And note that “involving” is very much not the same thing as “caused by”. Yes, “caused by” will be a big chunk of it, but there's a reason the latter term is not used.
- the_doctah 5mo agoSame with polygraph tests. It's not admissible in court. It's an interrogation tactic designed to give some perceived authority to the police's claims that a suspect is lying and give the suspect a reason to talk more. Should be illegal.
- superkuh 5mo agoHe refused a blood test as was his right, and probably the correct decision given that this "top cop" (ie, the one they say had by far the most DUI arrests) was a criminal and shown to break the evidence chain of custody.
- swiftcoder 5mo ago> He refused a blood test as was his right Per the article, he refused the old walk-along-a-straight-line-without-swaying, not a blood test (nor even a breathalyser). Blood tests are not administered in the field, they would be administered at a nearby medical facility, later in this process.
- superkuh 5mo agoCorrect, the request for the blood draw and test was done under coercion at a lab in a hospital, https://youtu.be/DWCEssxYVC0?t=434 https://youtu.be/DWCEssxYVC0?t=434 He refused the blood draw as was his right.
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- LgWoodenBadger 5mo agoOne should never take a field sobriety test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHFpc6uiWA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHFpc6uiWA
- darreninthenet 5mo agoIn the UK it's done by breathalyser and refusing is itself an offence.
- abtinf 5mo agoA field sobriety test is distinct from a chemical analysis (breathalyzer or otherwise). In California, you are required to submit to chemical testing (breath, urine, or blood — I don’t recall the rules for which applies in which situations). However, you are not required to otherwise talk to or perform the absurd procedure of the field sobriety test (“you have the right to remain silent”).
- pbhjpbhj 5mo agoI was under the mistaken impression you could refuse and then would get a blood test, seems that was wrong/out-dated (also wrong!). The backup test at the station is also usually a breath test apparently. And it seems we have field sobriety tests but it looks like they're for drug-driving. For example, https://www.gov.uk/stopped-by-police-while-driving-your-rights/breath-tests https://www.gov.uk/stopped-by-police-while-driving-your-righ.... I took OpenAI's references as correct without checking legislation as I'm on my phone.
- matwood 5mo agoIt's also an offense in most (all?) of the US. Even then, if someone is pulled over for DUI, at that point the officers are just collecting evidence. If someone has had anything to drink, it's in their best interest to say they want a lawyer and refuse all tests. Then there will be less evidence to argue against in court.
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- k4rli 5mo agoI don't understand how simple DWI testing is like that in your country. 3 seconds of a certified calibrated breathalyzer is sufficient, this walking in a straight line and saying the alphabet backwards sounds like a joke.
- mothballed 5mo agoThe portable breathalyzer is inadmissable in court in my and most states. The Simon Says game is though (but it can be refused without penalty, hypothetically).
- GJim 5mo agoThe portable one is used as an indicator. A positive result will get you arrested and taken to the station, where they have the (non-portable) court admissible calibrated kit.
- crote 5mo agoWhy would a certified calibrated breathalizer test be inadmissible in court? How is it any different from catching speeders with a laser gun, or doing a DNA test? And if giving every cop a calibrated breathalizer is too expensive: give them a reasonably-accurate one for in the field, then take everyone who fails it to the station for a retest on an expensive calibrated one.
- Atotalnoob 5mo agoThat’s what they do. The field one is inadmissible, but justifies arresting and transporting to the admissible one at the station
- gnopgnip 5mo agoThis is changing. Most states have “permanent” properly calibrated breathalyzer at every dui checkpoint now. And in an increasing number of regular vehicles
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- rokob 5mo agoYou can. Refusing the field test allows them to arrest you. But it isn't sufficient to charge you. They also have to offer you a breathalyzer at the station and you can refuse that but demand a blood test. But your car still gets towed even if you pass the tests at the station and don't ultimately get charged because you refused the field test.
- beart 5mo agoIn Michigan, refusing the roadside breathalyzer is $150 automatic fine. Refusing the chemical test once at the station is an automatic 1 year suspended license and 6 points, even if you are subsequently let go without charge.
- rationalist 5mo agoWhat if you don't refuse, but just barely blow into the device or otherwise have a medical condition such as asthma that prevents the machine from getting a good sample?
- beart 5mo agoNot sure what the law is exactly, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't end up working out in your favor.
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- mothballed 5mo agoI've been saying this for awhile as well. Corruption is horse-shoe, once it is pervasive enough, it becomes affordable to the common man and not just the rich. Counter-intuitively, even more egalitarian, perhaps. Ive had police in Mexico just walk up and steal $100+ from my wallet. It was refreshing as in the US they instead police have just dragged me to jail on fabricated allegations. When Mexican police can get all they want by just stealing my money and not my time, it feels like living in a more free country, liberating comparatively.
- ta988 5mo agosearch for eminent domain in the us, it can be much worse than just $100
- mothballed 5mo agoI was billed about $1000 when US police took me to ER in cuffs and claimed (made up) I was secretly smuggling drugs up my ass. ------- re: below (throttled) ---------- They got a warrant afterwards which they somehow applied retroactively. I found out police had systematically been doing this to people and in fact already sued for this. The hospital had also already been put on notice after ACLU sued in a different state. I contacted several lawyers and the ACLU (since they already had posted notice for this same thing). ACLU was radio silence for the entire couple years of the statue of limitations, so no help there. The best shot I had was contacting a couple lawyers who specifically sued against the same people who had done it before. They lost the last time due to the courts considering the hospital as effectively deputized as federal officers while it happened. The courts/state got around the lawsuit by claiming it is medical care whenever the warrant issue come up, then claim it is a LEO search whenever the medical aspects of the search were challenged, creating a catch 22. All lawyers involved told me they'd given up such cases (impossible to win). The prior, almost identical but even worse case (woman finger-raped by doctors without a warrant) was lost due to the catch-22 of it being a "search" whenever the medical aspects were challenged and being "medical care" whenever the search aspects were challenged. This meant it was effectively impossible to challenge it from any available angle. As for the bill, I never paid it. Still chased by debt collectors for it though. Basically if federal officers involved you are fucked. Lon Horiuchi straight up sniped an innocent woman holding a baby in her arms, over a husband's failure to appear in court, and even he couldn't be held accountable.
- mrlonglong 5mo ago"State records show in 2024, Bradley nearly tripled his salary, earning nearly $250,000 in one year" Holy cow.
- jghn 5mo agoPeople don't realize how well paid cops are. In a lot of municipalities the highest paid officials will be dominated by police.
- throw0101c 5mo agoAnd the police budget as a whole is often the top line item.
- ta988 5mo agoand pensions...
- tptacek 5mo agoNo it isn't. Schools are, and by a long way. People are confused by this because most municipalities have multiple taxing bodies; schools and municipalities work from different budgets, and the police are the largest line item in a budget that basically captures only police, fire, and public works.
- throw0101c 5mo ago>>> In a lot of municipalities the highest paid officials will be dominated by police. >> And the police budget as a whole is often the top line item. > No it isn't. Schools are, and by a long way. Where I live municipalities do not run schools, rather it is the province. My municipality breaks out fire and paramedic separately. Smaller municipalities or regions (~counties) may 'contract out' to the provincial (~state) police for a local detachment, but would have a line item for such payment.
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- baggachipz 5mo agoThink of all the things stolen from people who can't afford this technology. The US system really is two-tiered.
- lotsofpulp 5mo agoIt has long been official policy. And not one “freedom” loving legislator will speak out against it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United... See this post elsewhere in the thread too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48095493 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48095493
- qingcharles 5mo agoI used to spend a lot of time in forfeiture court in a past life, it's pretty wild. Most cases don't even make it to court. At least in Illinois they mail a notice to the person that says they have 14 days to file themselves in court if they want to challenge the forfeiture, and it specifically states on the form that the government will not help you in any way to file the required forms or supply them to you.
- wilburx3 5mo agoIf he was the 'Top Cop' how bad are the others?
- OutOfHere 5mo agoIt would seem that he was the top cop because he was this bad.
- rationalist 5mo agoThe only measurement for that status is number of DUI arrests (not convictions, which for him was less than half).
- medler 5mo ago> investigators determined Bradley had violated State Police policies, and he was suspended for one day.
- RankingMember 5mo agoComically limp self-punishment- this is why police unions need broad reform.
- pbhjpbhj 5mo agoWould police unions vote to strike to support a trooper who stole a laptop? If so, then I think you've got police problems, not police unions problems.
- jimz 5mo agoBack in 2019 the police in Fresno stole a bunch of rare coins during a search of a house where the warrant did not cover anything like said coins, valued at $125,000, by reporting that they seized $50,000 when they actually took twice that much in cash and the coins. The 9th Circuit ended up deciding that while it was obviously morally wrong, qualified immunity applied because there's clearly established case law that stealing property that was specifically targeted for a search does violate the Constitution, because there's no analogous case regarding property stolen by police that the police did not know was there and are not covered by the warrant, there's no clearly established violation of the 4th Amendment even though it is literally an unlawful seizure of property. Supreme Court denied cert, allowing the decision to stand. I wish I was joking. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/17-16756/17-16756-2019-09-04.html https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/17...
- master_crab 5mo agoThis was incredibly dangerous of the victim. In another version of events, the officer could have shot him and plausibly (unfortunately) claimed the victim had a vendetta against the cop for arresting him.
- aprilthird2021 5mo agoGreat, so they steal your stuff and you can't even confront them about it
- master_crab 5mo agoYeah it’s a sad state. But it’s also not worth putting oneself in harm’s way. Report it to the state authorities (not all of them are crooked). Or try another jurisdiction, like the local police.
- soderfoo 5mo agoAt first I thought, "Wow, he's much braver than I am." But "audacious" and "bold" are probably better words to describe it. Maybe I'm overly cautious, but it's inherently risky to confront someone who has taken your property since they have already shown a willingness to break the law. It's a coin toss whether they will perceive the confrontation as a threat and react violently. All that without even considering that he was dealing with a police officer who, de facto, will be given the benefit of the doubt in a confrontation and may behave accordingly. Not all cops are bad, I think most are good actually, but you have no way of knowing which one you will get in a situation like this. I'm very glad that this ended well (as well as it could have) for him.
- cucumber3732842 5mo agoThe way this is supposed to work is that the victim says "I got screwed into a baseless DUI and I'm only out a predatory tow bill and my $2k Mackbook. That's $3k less than the lawyer's starting price. Golly gee it's my lucky day" He's not brave. He's dense enough to still believe in the system. See also: Knocking on the door of a cop who you've got beef with.
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- NetMageSCW 5mo agoAnd this is why most cops should be tarred with the brush of corruption - it isn’t that they broke the law, but too many are willing to cover up, defend and sweep under the rug those that do.
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- dionian 5mo ago"all"
- RobotToaster 5mo agoPeople forget the original saying was "one bad apple spoils the whole barrel."
- y1n0 5mo agoThat’s true, but people on HN have a habit of saying ‘most’ when they really just mean ‘many.’
- yaur 5mo agoBut it’s not one bad apple. It’s one cop who stole someone’s laptop while arresting them and entire system that looked the other way and let the theft go unpunished.
- fearmerchant 5mo agoAnd really it's just a few.
- kennywinker 5mo agoCoping by only hearing the first half of the expression. “Spoils the bunch” is just as important as the number of bad apples.
- jackconsidine 5mo ago> State records show in 2024, Bradley nearly tripled his salary, earning nearly $250,000 in one year. > That's more than the salary of the Illinois State Police director.
- an0malous 5mo agoWhy is someone making that much money stealing a MacBook?
- loloquwowndueo 5mo agoThat’s how they have that much money. It’s like saying why does the drug cartel leader keep selling drugs, he’s swimming in cash (literally).
- danparsonson 5mo agoHere's a radical idea... you could... read the article :-O
- an0malous 5mo agoI did. Where in the article does it answer my question?
- danparsonson 5mo agoEdit: my bad, see my other comment The final paragraph: "Court overtime For every DUI arrest made, state police troopers must appear in court, and in evidence motions filed with the court, attorneys have said this has led to a staggering amount of overtime pay for Trooper Bradley. State records show in 2024, Bradley nearly tripled his salary, earning nearly $250,000 in one year."
- danparsonson 5mo agoAhhh I apologise - I misparsed your comment. I read it as: > Why is someone making that much money [from] stealing a MacBook instead of > Why is someone [who is] making that much money stealing a MacBook Sorry about that.
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- rationalist 5mo ago> Asinine Comments Are Bad You're right!
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- rationalist 5mo agoYou've met every cop, everywhere then, wow! Please tell me how you met all of those cops, I would love to have the ability to travel all over the U.S. and meet every single one and talk with them and observe them work. That's a monumental task, congrats on you for doing that! That is so selfless of you! I see your username is "righthand", did you know I met every single left-handed person in the U.S. and they're all bad! They cover for each other, including the one who is the only left-handed person in a small town in Washington state, I just know he's covering for all of the left-handed people in Florida. I almost forgot: All Tow Truck Drivers Are Bad. They should be towing each other for parking in illegal spots. All Doctors are bad too, they should be ratting each other out left-and-right for all the malpractice they commit. All HN users are bad, we are enabling all of the bad things in tech companies etc.
- righthand 5mo agoIt has nothing to do with the cops as individuals and some of them being “nice” or not. It has everything to do with the normalization and systemization. If you come to Nyc and live here you will see that the “cops are bearueacrats with guns” stigma is pretty much true. A lot of the lower crime areas have cops looking for a minor infraction to write up a ticket (often a desk appearance ticket that usually gets thrown out by the courts). They will attempt to stop and frisk you even though you can deny it and even though it’s illegal. So here we have a system of pointless ticketing because stops and tickets are how they get a promotion. In high crime neighborhoods they take this tactic to new levels. So no, I dont consider cops good people because as soon as one gets caught they back each other up. As I stated previously they soured their own image with decades of backing bad actor cops up and normalizing bad behavior. Left handed people (I’m one of them) don’t have a history of systematic violence and abuse of peoples rights as enabled by the government. Left handed people dont have a union to corral around and get protections when they murder someone. Left handed people often don’t kill someone or steal their belongings then turn around and say “I was just doing my job, give us $1B more to build a surveillance dragnet and bail out our bad actors”. Left handed people don’t violently kettle and beat protestors asking for basic reform of left handed people. > All Tow Truck Drivers Are Bad. They should be towing each other for parking in illegal spots. Fun fact tow truck drivers have recently become filled with bad actors because cops do not enforce traffic law in Nyc and have no problem with tow truck drivers scamming people: https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-puts-tow-truck-operators-on-notice-following-gothamist-investigation https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-puts-tow-truck-operators-on-n... > All Doctors are bad too My doctor does his best to double dip on telehealth + “come in for tests”. Because a lot of clinics have devolved into sending health data to labs. What should be a “come in for tests” ends with an additional $75 telehealth call where my doctor reads the results over the phone. I personally don’t think you’re going to convince anyone saying ACAB that “cOpS ArE aCtUaLlY nIcE gUyS oNcE YoU sHrUg oFf SySteMatIc StAtE VioLeNcE aNd vIoLaTiNG RiGhtS tHeY eNAbLeD fOr DecADes! jUsT iGnOrE tHe pOliCe stAtE.” And we havent even begun to discuss “civil forfeiture” theft scam that is relative to this article. All Cops Are Basterds
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- voidUpdate 5mo ago> "ALCOHOL DOESNT SMELL" Alcoholic drinks do smell though. I can smell if my girlfriend has been drinking. The smell of a bar is very distinctive
- arjie 5mo agoIt’s an interesting aside in the story but if you’re under investigation for a DUI you can just refuse the field sobriety tests and it appears they don’t follow up so you’ll be declared innocent even if you were arrested for felony DUI. Assuming the best case version of this guy’s story he arrested this guy for the DUI and then forgot to check in his wallet, key, and laptop or whatever. Fine, not unbelievable. But it doesn’t look like he followed up about the DUI thing.
- cucumber3732842 5mo agoThe whole subtext here is that the cop's self-serving misconduct comes at the expense of the system. The cop got a free laptop so of course the ball got dropped. The point is he they didn't want it dragged through court where that could be easily uncovered so he just dropped the ball. $5k+ lawyer fees minimum if they decide to prosecute the DUI vs $2k at best laptop. The math is supposed easy for the accused. So then this guy goes and gets the GPS info, confronts the cop, it spirals, whole thing comes crashing down. And now the state is going after this cop because he's at the very least implicitly making DUI enforcement look bad.
- thinkcontext 5mo ago> It’s an interesting aside in the story but if you’re under investigation for a DUI you can just refuse the field sobriety tests and it appears they don’t follow up so you’ll be declared innocent even if you were arrested for felony DUI. I assume it varies but for most places if you refuse roadside field sobriety tests and they feel you have given indicators of impairment they will take you into custody. Then they'll take you to the station and give you the option of taking a breathalyzer and if you refuse again your license is automatically suspended for a year.
- antiframe 5mo agoIn my state they can get a judge to issue a blood draw warrant. I learned this because I was on the jury of a DUI case and the arresting officer said he didn't want to bother a judge so opted not to get a warrant after the driver refused the tests and breathalyzer. The prosecutor only presented "this cop is good!, he has 100s of DUI stops, trust him!". We acquitted due to lack of evidence.
- lr4444lr 5mo ago> At the gas station, Bradley accused Holland of driving under the influence. When asked if he would submit to field sobriety tests, Holland calmly refused. Much as I hope Bradley would be fired and lose his pension for abuse of power, this part is on Holland. In my state, refusing a breathalyzer is by law an automatic penalty because of the "implied consent statute" that you accept when you get behind the wheel: automatic license suspension for 1 year, and you still have to face the officer's testimony. There are consequences to the refusal that have nothing to do with the officer.
- technothrasher 5mo agoThis is not true in Illinois. Field sobriety tests before you are arrested are entirely voluntary and you can refuse them without triggering implied consent penalties.
- Ylpertnodi 5mo agoAn fst after being arrested would be difficult for most people.
- compscistd 5mo agoYou're confusing a breathalyzer with a field sobriety test, the latter of which no one should agree to. It's the sort of test that asks you to walk straight, hop on one leg, allow an officer to use a flashlight on your eyes, or recite the alphabet backwards. They're designed to allow the officer to use their discretion to determine if you've failed rather than use an objective reading (like a breathalyzer). Ask yourself why an officer would want to use a set of tests that require being subjective instead of deferring to a breathalyzer.
- Sohcahtoa82 5mo agoCops gotta meet that quota. A cop pulled me over once, claiming I ran a red light (It was bullshit, and I had the dash cam footage to prove it). He insisted on me doing a field sobriety test based on my breath supposedly smelling like alcohol, despite me not having anything to drink. I wanted to just skip the bullshit and take a breathalyzer. It was freezing cold out, and I'm a Wears Shorts Year-Round Guy(tm), which normally doesn't bother me since I'm only outside for like 15 seconds between my car and whatever building I'm going into/out of, but a field sobriety was gonna have me in the cold for several minutes. He basically said that if I wanted to take a breathalyzer, he'd gladly drive me down to the station to do it. This cop already decided I was guilty of two crimes with zero evidence because he has an arrest quota to meet. And sure, you can argue that arrest quotas are illegal and don't exist, but it's one of those things where it doesn't exist on paper, but they basically still have a de facto existence because of performance tracking.
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- everdrive 5mo agoThe offending trooper's lie was comically bad: "I kept it for his courtesy, like I said with his phone, key and wallet," Bradley told investigators. "It's my mistake. I forgot to give him his stuff back and he tracked it." For anyone who knows policing, evidence and suspect possessions do NOT go the arresting officer's home for obvious reasons.
- pixl97 5mo agoWhen the chain of evidence starts looking like silly string.
- poulpy123 5mo agoBrb keeping by courtesy my neighborhood bank vault
- madaxe_again 5mo ago“His wallet was safer in my pocket, your honour”
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- mattbee 5mo agoThis is very cynical, why would you not thank the Wallet Inspector
- fwipsy 5mo agoI do not think it is completely a forgone conclusion that he was lying. I think it's possible that it was separated from the other possessions (e.g. because it didn't fit in a bag, for example) and then forgotten in the patrol vehicle. However, this definitely should have been investigated thoroughly and the officer fired and blacklisted if it was attempted theft.
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- liveoneggs 5mo agoThis is exactly the type of stuff Afroman was working to bring into public view!
- ortusdux 5mo agoLEOs should be required to carry malpractice insurance.
- wahnfrieden 5mo agoUS police steal more than robbers do in total dollar value per year
- rationalist 5mo agoFor anyone who doesn't believe this, it is true when it comes to reported Civil Asset Forfeitures compared to reported thefts. If you've never heard of Civil Asset Forfeiture, it will probably make your blood boil if you look it up and learn about its abuse.
- billiam 5mo agoExhibit A for why we need to rewrite sovereign immunity laws and get them out of union contracts, at the same time professionalizing how DUI is enforced. If we made the punishments like they have in Europe, the incidence would go way down.
- tedggh 5mo agoBeyond the abuse of power and all, the dumb act of stealing an easily traceable item should be enough to get that officer removed.
- xrd 5mo agoGotta give it to the cop who made $250k a year because he knew DUIs required him to go to court and guaranteed him excessive overtime. I expect he will be pardoned by Trump because of his creativity.
- rationalist 5mo agoWeird, I didn't see Trump mentioned in the article. Do you still have it in your cache? Can you please post the version of the article that they showed you?
- xrd 5mo agoTrump is not mentioned in the story at all. I'm making a comment on how his entire administration is corrupt to the core. I'm saying that I am considering how to tell my kids that lying and cheating and graft are the way America works now, and that this cop did exactly that. If you are making a clever comment to expose my snarkiness, feel free to down vote me and maybe others will follow you down that path. I'm not AI so it will sting a little bit and maybe I'll be more civil next time.
- rationalist 5mo agoOh, sorry, I didn't expect someone to drag politics into something out-of-the-blue.