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macOS Sequoia is available today

388 points by mfiguiere 2y ago

carlosjs23 2y ago
* Sequoia is available Proceeds to talk about new App features instead of OS ones.
- isodev 2y ago
  “This OS update could have been an app update.”
- stetrain 2y ago
  When the apps are shipped bundled with the OS by the same company, and use new system framework/API features that are part of the OS what is really the distinction?
  - black3r 2y ago
    iPhone mirroring, video conferencing and window tiling actually use system frameworks, so it's okay to present them as OS features. New versions of Safari are already available for older macOS versions through System Update for a few years, I've already downloaded Safari 18 on my Sonoma. And for Passwords, Messages, Notes and Maps there's no legit reasons why newer versions can't be distributed through App Store, other than using their new features as a promo for their new macOS...
andreicek 2y ago
I updated, and my whole Elixir/JS setup works like before. I like that they _finally_ added window snapping to the window manager, but keyboard shortcuts are still missing from what I can see. Edit: it is possible! take a look at this Reddit post for a workaround https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dcy6l2/comment/lax90hc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dcy6l2/comment/lax9...
- ang_cire 2y ago
  That'll take another 5 years
- theshrike79 2y ago
  Keyboard shortcuts are either a simple Hammerspoon script or Magnet/Rectangle installation away.
- stetrain 2y ago
  There are keyboard shortcuts: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/macos-15-sequoia-the-ars-technica-review/5/#h1 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/macos-15-sequoia-the...
- pixelbyindex 2y ago
  I have been using a little app called Rectangle[1] for years now, and it solves every possible window positioning need I have ever had. No ads, no cost. As far as the conversation goes, 1st party implementation by Apple would be nice and all, but 3rd party doesn't bother me in the slightest. (at least in this case) [1] https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/
  - andreicek 2y ago
    I was/am a rectangle pro user!
  - __jonas 2y ago
    I mean I use rectangle, and used spectacle before it, and I’m very grateful to the developers for maintaining it and making it available for free, but this really should be part of the OS and I will be very happy to get rid of that app after updating to Sequoia. I also use an app that reverses the scroll direction of an attached USB mouse, without affecting the (natural) trackpad scroll direction, because MacOS does not allow changing them independently (looks like they are separate options for mouse and trackpad but they are in fact the same). The App is called Scroll Reverser [1] it is free and works flawlessly, but it really should not have to exist, it’s ridiculous. [1] https://pilotmoon.com/scrollreverser/ https://pilotmoon.com/scrollreverser/
modeless 2y ago
Window tiling! If you drag a single window to the top does it maximize, and unmaximize when you drag it away? That's been my most wanted feature in macOS since forever (yes I have tried the third party ones). I don't really care about tiling multiple windows, but I've always hated the macOS full screen behavior, and before that the old green button behavior, so an alternative that finally works well (the way Windows has for many years) would be amazing.
- cloudking 2y ago
  Is it better than Swish? I recently discovered this and it's game changing for trackpad users https://highlyopinionated.co/swish/ https://highlyopinionated.co/swish/
  - modeless 2y ago
    That does look pretty cool. Unfortunately my experience with third party window management features has been bad.
    - mm263 2y ago
      Long time Swish user - I think it's pretty good, unlike other solutions I tried
  - JoBrad 2y ago
    Have been using Rectangles for a while. I like Swish's tiling options, though! I'll have to give it a try.
    - touristtam 2y ago
      I like Rectangle too, but both Magnet and Swish have feature that seems they would appeal to a lot more Mac users.
- AndrewSwift 2y ago
  Note that you can option double click the corner of a window to make it fill the screen. I realize that this isn't what you're asking, but it might help.
jjice 2y ago
> With many of the Apple Intelligence models running entirely on device, as well as the introduction of Private Cloud Compute — which extends the privacy and security of Apple devices into the cloud to unlock even more intelligence — Apple Intelligence introduces an extraordinary step forward for privacy in artificial intelligence. They've said this in every mention of Apple AI since the WWDC, but they haven't mentioned at all if you can disable the cloud calls. I'm assuming you won't be able to, but if you can, that will be a very neat guarantee to have. If that same ability comes to an iPhone, I'll be very tempted to break my 10+ year Android tenure.
- akmarinov 2y ago
  Airplane mode before initiating Siri?
- firloop 2y ago
  In the beta builds with Apple Intelligence, it is possible to turn the entire feature set off (including cloud calls). Don’t think you can keep the local features and skip the cloud though.
- wyager 2y ago
  You could try cutting the AI process from the internet using LuLu
- NotPractical 2y ago
  You seriously can't disable Private Cloud Compute or Apple Intelligence on iOS??
  - quenix 2y ago
    You can disable the entirety of Apple Intelligence. You can't enable Apple Intelligence and disable PCC, though.
trvr 2y ago
I am usually slow to upgrade but I jumped on this and iOS 18 immediately because of "iPhone Mirroring". I've only had it for a few minutes, but it's really nice!
- sccxy 2y ago
  > iPhone Mirroring is not available in your country or region.
  - trvr 2y ago
    I'm not taking the bait on that one. ;-)
- hollow-moe 2y ago
  is it just what scrcpy has been doing for some years already ?
  - jwells89 2y ago
    It forwards notifications to your Mac too, even when a mirroring session isn't active.
    - isodev 2y ago
      But that was already part of continuity or was it previously limited to user activities? It’s hilarious that Apple made such a big deal out of it and then failed to release it for everyone.
      - jwells89 2y ago
        NSUserActivity didn't forward notifications, it just provided a way to move whatever you were doing on your other Apple devices to the one you're currently using and only covered things that the dev specifically implemented. This works for all notifications from all apps.
mertbio 2y ago
Thanks to the new API that comes with Sequoia, I developed a new translator app for Menu Bar that doesn’t require internet connection. If you are interested, please have a look: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/offline-translate-translator/id6686403979?l=en-GB&mt=12 https://apps.apple.com/de/app/offline-translate-translator/i...
- rafaelturk 2y ago
  congrats on your App!
  - mertbio 2y ago
    Thank you!
- swyx 2y ago
  what new api?
- gumboshoes 2y ago
  I'm probably an advanced translation user, but the possibilities of Easydict is why I stick with it: https://github.com/tisfeng/Easydict https://github.com/tisfeng/Easydict
hit8run 2y ago
Ubuntu is really good these days. If you bought into the apple ecosystem with a recent Mac I’d not bother. But for those of your running a PC Ubuntu is incredible and their new App Store makes finding and installing software super easy. My workstation pc with Ubuntu is insanely faster than my Mac Studio when it comes to jetbrains IDEs. It’s so snappy I first couldn’t believe the performance diff.
- vardump 2y ago
  How would you install Ubuntu on an M1-M3 Macbook?
  - rahen 2y ago
    https://ubuntuasahi.org/ https://ubuntuasahi.org/
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  - isodev 2y ago
    If it were me, I’d sell my MacBook and get a max spec KDE Slimbook with 96GB RAM.
    - addandsubtract 2y ago
      If any other laptop had a trackpad like apple, with multi touch and gesture support, I would switch.
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      - yoavm 2y ago
        Linux user for the past 20 years - I cannot remember the last laptop I had that didn't have multi touch and gestures support. been using mostly ThinkPads & Dells. I don't know what marketing team created this whole "our trackpad is so different" belief, but they've done a brilliant job!
jmward01 2y ago
A long time ago I started dreading major updates from corporate providers. They push features they want, not features I want. It got so bad with Microsoft that I fled. Apple's updates have been aggressive in resetting my preferences and pushing things like iCloud and their login to the point that they are on the Microsoft path. I am forced to use mac for work but only because of work.
- duped 2y ago
  Apple is most certainly not the company you want to purchase products from if you're afraid of major updates. They are far more aggressive and eager to break things than Microsoft.
  - philistine 2y ago
    Back in 1991, there was an uproar, an uproar I tells you, because System 7 required nearly a megabyte of memory instead of the 600K System 6 could run with. Sure, most users barely had more than a megabyte of memory, but it paints a pattern for sure.
    - DaiPlusPlus 2y ago
      Yes, but System 7 wasn't installed on your computer overnight without you realising it.
      - detourdog 2y ago
        At my office it did. We used system when we networked the office. I kinda think it didn’t really come out until 92 but release windows lasted years.
      - philistine 2y ago
        Apple allows you to completely stop automatic updates. They're on by default, and they're not going to force you to restart. You can always postpone.
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leetharris 2y ago
Weird how the title says, "macOS Sequoia is available today, bringing iPhone Mirroring, Apple Intelligence, and more to Mac" Then you look at the paragraph for this and it says, "Coming Soon: Apple Intelligence" They announced this in June, and it's just loosely coming "this fall." I have a feeling they are finding it very difficult to do anything with any kind of consistency or value on their 8gb RAM phones / Macbooks. Their models they have demonstrated so far are a relatively low parameter count with LoRA adapters for various use cases. I have a feeling that the majority of Apple Intelligence will eventually just be farmed out to their "secure cloud" or whatever they were calling it.
- bredren 2y ago
  A commonly cited analyst described lower than expected sales of iPhone 16 Pro due to AI features not rolling out until October. https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/15/iphone-16-pro-demand-estimate/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/15/iphone-16-pro-demand-es... I find that a little hard to believe. I would suppose the vast majority of customers don't think a lot about the timing of software features in a purchase decision.
  - freeone3000 2y ago
    It’s not as if the hardware features on the 16 Pro are groundbreaking — a slightly nicer camera, a slightly nicer display, a slightly nicer battery life, and a $600 upgrade fee. No, thank you, the software features are what make-or-break the upgrade.
    - shinycode 2y ago
      Phones nowadays are made to last years, even 6+ years easily. So the update this year is not for the people who bought it last year but for people with an iPhone X or 11. They will see major improvements. But it’s silly to update (any) flagship phone every year.
      - freeone3000 2y ago
rahen 2y ago
Will Apple Intelligence be available in the EU after all?
- epolanski 2y ago
  As an European I very hope not or at least that you can opt out.
  - flemhans 2y ago
    Of course you can opt out!
- graeme 2y ago
  No, the DMA very likely bans it. The EU won't say in advance and has been loudly threatening fines of 10% of global revenue. DMA forbids using your platform's data or position to support a service without giving third parties equal access. Third parties are pretty clearly excluded from screen mirroring or running ai on device, so these seem like things Apple can't legally launch in the EU.
  - rahen 2y ago
    I understand the Eurocrats really want to protect us, but sometimes I wish I were protected from the Eurocrats.
- XajniN 2y ago
  I’m on Sequoia 15.1 beta 4, and I got it enabled yesterday.
rafaelturk 2y ago
Aside from the traditional and expected bells and whistles, are there any major core improvements?
- rafaelturk 2y ago
  Answering my own question, it looks like window tiling is finally solved.
  - rgovostes 2y ago
    Apple always delivers what its customers want, after all alternatives have been exhausted.
andrewstuart 2y ago
I know I'll be seen as an Apple fanbot for saying it, but holy schmoley Apple's operating system-fu just leaves Windows in the dust.
- subjectsigma 2y ago
  I'm sitting here thinking - man, how is it possible that they can make the best laptop hardware no contest, and yet I still get blurry icons when connecting to a non-retina external display? Something that the cheapest Windows laptop money can buy would do flawlessly? Macs are great and so is macOS, but it's not that good, at the end of the day it's just a computer
  - MBCook 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - subjectsigma 2y ago
      I already own two 2560x1440 non-Apple displays that work flawlessly with my Windows PC, they cost $250 apiece, and there is absolutely no way in hell I am selling them and buying a $1599 display because Apple can't fix their egregiously bad software. I'll just live with slightly blurry icons whenever I want to use them with my Mac.
      - MBCook 2y ago
        There are non-Apple options for FAR less.
        subjectsigma 2y ago
        Yes, but these are the ones I already own and that’s also completely besides the point, which is that they look great on Ubuntu, Windows 10/11, and pretty much every OS that’s not macOS
    - jazzyjackson 2y ago
xlii 2y ago
I recently got bored of Apple ecosystem. Was considering buying System76 for work, but thought that iPhone Mirroring feature would be really neat and decided to wait. Turns out it’s not available in EU because yadda yadda Apple threw a fit. Oh well.
- crazygringo 2y ago
  > because yadda yadda Apple threw a fit Publicly traded corporations generally engage in strategy. They don't "throw a fit". You're suggesting some kind of emotional immaturity. That's not how these corporations generally operate. I don't know why the iPhone mirroring isn't supported, but I can absolutely guarantee you it's not because anybody is "throwing a fit".
  - redserk 2y ago
    This is unnecessarily pedantic. Personifying the behavior of a company is not some new concept. It’s actually rather common. Because a company itself cannot express emotions, the externally facing visible decisions are used as a proxy. For example, a company raising prices to an unexpected level may be described as “greedy”. A company executing a series of decisions that appears misguided or incalculable may be described as “panicking”.
    - crazygringo 2y ago
      > Personifying the behavior of a company is not some new concept. It’s actually rather common. I know, it's common and it's wrong and unhelpful. That's my point. It doesn't help us understand the situation better, but actively misleads us if we're interested in actually analyzing problems and coming up with solutions. And I just looked it up and it appears that Apple isn't supporting it because their reading of the EU law is that they'd have to support iPhone mirroring to third parties like Windows and Linux, where it would be harder or impossible to control the security and privacy. That's something that can be talked about intelligently, whichever side you're on. Saying they're "throwing a fit" is not. It's false, and makes the conversation worse for all of us.
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anothername12 2y ago
Installing it on my mid-2015 MBP thanks to Open Core Patcher!
- benbristow 2y ago
  Nice that it can still be supported. Couldn't go back to Intel though personally!
  - windowsrookie 2y ago
    I have an M1 Air 8GB and a 2018 MBP 16GB. Performance feels about the same until the Air hits swap, then the old Intel MBP still outperforms the M1 Air.
    - benbristow 2y ago
      One you could probably fry bacon on whilst the battery drains in an hour...
      - pcdoodle 2y ago
        I also get great battery life on older intel macbooks (2012 Pro w/Matte Screen 16/GB/4TB SATA + 2015 Air w/2TB NVME). Feels good knowing when my storage wears out, i don't lose the whole machine.
      - windowsrookie 2y ago
        My 2018 MBP 15 is the i7 model, while it gets warm it never had the overheating issues the i9 models had. I also had the battery replaced under AppleCare about 10 months ago so it still gets 7-9 hours of battery life.
    - tonyedgecombe 2y ago
      Interestingly my M1 Air 8GB runs my Rust unit tests about four times as fast as my i7 Mac Mini 16GB.
krelas 2y ago
Here’s one for HN readers, you can now find jq in /usr/bin/ in Sequoia.
- subjectsigma 2y ago
  Whoa, you're right. How did you know? The developer notes only seem to talk about API changes
  - krelas 2y ago
    I manage a lot of Macs, been beta testing since June.
- andrelaszlo 2y ago
  Is it the BSD jq from 1995? </s> Jk, thanks for the info! It's nice to know it's available on the system by default when writing scripts for my team.
  - wpm 2y ago
    Nah just the last GPL2 licensed version from 2008 ope wait that's just bash
- vbezhenar 2y ago
  Now that's the real feature!
- switch007 2y ago
  $ jq '.[] | messages | .thank_you' < strings.json wait, maybe it's... $ jq '. | .messages.thank_you' < strings.json darn it! how about $ jq '[].messages.thank_you' < strings.json !??@@!
  - LeoPanthera 2y ago
    Figuring out what garbage to type into jq is the best thing about ChatGPT.
rks404 2y ago
Xcode isn't working with Sequoia for me. Anyone else having this issue?
- jgtor 2y ago
  Have you updated to Xcode 16?
matrix87 2y ago
Honestly most of the time I download these, it's just to get new wallpapers The recent live wallpapers feature is really cool, hopefully they've added more
- MBCook 2y ago
  They did to tvOS. I’m not sure about macOS but it would be nice.
  - MBCook 2y ago
    Update: they did!
- windowsrookie 2y ago
  The live wallpapers are neat but I noticed they consume ~200MB of RAM, so I don't use them on my 8GB M1 Air.
mrtksn 2y ago
For the first time Apple responded to my bug report through the Feedback Assistant and requested more information, so kind of feel involved in this :) So the bug was about the screen recording permission needed for some apps, Shottr specifically. Despite me allowing screen recording previously macOS Sequoia kept asking me to go into the settings and give the permission. According to Apple, that should have had happened once a week, so I gave a follow up feedback about definitely me not wanting to repeat this more than once. Fingers crossed I won't have to fiddle with permission when taking a screenshot. But unfortunately it appears that they only changed the policy to do it once a month: https://a.dropoverapp.com/cloud/download/50dcbf08-a812-4ef4-b70d-560a18f3693f/ff8ca9dd-4eac-442f-89f1-63e77f3e6596 https://a.dropoverapp.com/cloud/download/50dcbf08-a812-4ef4-... Still better than once a week and the final UI is fine, but IMHO it should have an option to disable this behavior.
- mustache_kimono 2y ago
  > For the first time Apple responded to my bug report through the Feedback Assistant and requested more information, so kind of feel involved in this :) Same here! I think it was re: locatedb not working? Although I was much more interested in my Feedback re: why dtrace was causing crashes after sleep. As much as I wish Apple were a more open company, if they just responded to Bug Reports, that would be amazing!
- lapcat 2y ago
  A lot of people complained by this, including the news media. I can guarantee it wasn't your bug report that spurred the change.
  - mrtksn 2y ago
    Yeah, probably but that's not the point.
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- tristanb 2y ago
  That looks a little frustrating. I wonder if there is a way around it?
lwhi 2y ago
Literally nothing I care about. As a web developer I'd be happy if Safari usage fell off a cliff.
- atonse 2y ago
  I disagree. I like all the privacy protections that Safari gives me as a user. And the safari team seems thoughtful (like the other browser teams) in how they consider features to implement. In fact, I'd like MORE competition in the space, and not having one privacy-addicted company dominating the browser market. Even as a web developer, I haven't encountered enough issues with Safari to warrant that view and what it would mean (fewer privacy protections for web users). In fact, I stopped using Chrome years ago because it used to destroy my battery life. And Safari always felt more snappy and more "native."
  - nottorp 2y ago
    > I like all the privacy protections that Safari gives me as a user. ... compared to Chrome, right? Not to Firefox with uBlock Origin and Facebook and Google containers ...
    - atonse 2y ago
      Yeah compared to Chrome. I do like and respect Firefox but it’s hard to take them too seriously as a separate competitor if all their revenue comes from Google. But what choice do they have?
      - nottorp 2y ago
        Well, something about head and ass. I looked into doing a one time donation to them earlier this year but they pushed so hard for a recurring one that they put me off and didn't even get the one time. Besides, from other discussions mostly on HN I get the impression that you can donate to them but you don't know if the money will go to the browser or to their latest crypto or "AI" initiative.
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_lvbh 2y ago
Although I don’t use MacOS, the fact that you can now control an iPhone from a Mac will probably be reverse engineered to allow Linux to do the same at some point. A lot of automation opportunities
- dbbk 2y ago
  Nope. It uses device attestation.
- MBCook 2y ago
  I seriously doubt it. It’s heavily secured with capabilities of their custom hardware.
  - sroussey 2y ago
    And it requires pairing and the same Apple account
- kccqzy 2y ago
  Bot farms will love that. A lot of websites are using reCAPTCHA and similar to prevent automation, but a lot of apps do not have anything similar. Maybe they do a jailbreak check and that's it.
- lapcat 2y ago
  "Available on Mac computers with Apple silicon and Intel-based Mac computers with a T2 Security Chip. Requires that your iPhone and Mac are signed in with the same Apple ID using two-factor authentication" https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-sequoia/ https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-sequoia/
  - _lvbh 2y ago
    Ah that sucks. No wonder it isn’t available in the EU
    - hcaz 2y ago
      Been using it in the UK for a while on the beta, works fine
gigatexal 2y ago
I’ve already upgraded everything in my home. All our phones, our watches, our HomePods, our laptops, and our iPads, and the AppleTv. It’s pretty cool! Still playing with things but upgrade went smoothly and I like the customizability.
- joshdavham 2y ago
  Does this "iPhone Mirroring" thing work with iPads, or just iPhones?
  - gigatexal 2y ago
    Hmm dunno. We’ve a mini and one of the new M4 ones and my wife has the M1 air laptop so I’ll have to try that out and get back to you. Thanks for reminding me I totally forgot. Gonna try this with my phone and my laptop.
  - gigatexal 2y ago
    Following up I only was able to get the iPhone and work to mirror :/
    - joshdavham 2y ago
      Appreciate the follow up!
- threecheese 2y ago
  None of my ATVs have the upgrade option yet; I’m a bit worried, as all the homepods and other devices are on 18, and historically version mismatches can wreak havoc on Homekit. I am pretty excited for Siri to start to stop sucking though!
rvz 2y ago
Most likely the second last version of macOS supporting Intel Macs. That is what Apple is not telling you with this announcement.
- dkga 2y ago
  Intel Mac owner here. The writing is on the wall...
  - graeme 2y ago
    I dug into this. Apple's incentives aside, the bulk of intel's chips in macs are no longer supported by Intel or soon won't be. The more time passes the harder it is to keep those machines secure. This is the best article I found on the topic. Note that once a mac is no longer supported for a new os the old os will get security updates for two years after that. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/with-macos-sonoma-intel-macs-are-still-getting-fewer-updates-than-they-used-to/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/with-macos-sonoma-in...
    - wpm 2y ago
      The old OS will generally get most security updates for two years, but that is not a written policy or rule, and Apple has not patched CVEs on older OSes in the past that were well within the N-2 assumption. Most of the time they do, but depending on the data you work with and the risk you can accept, that might not be an acceptable policy.
      - graeme 2y ago
        Thanks, I should have specified that! I'll note that anyone running an out of date MacOS should use Chrome or Firefox. Safari gets its updates via OS updates, whereas third party browsers have their own update cycle.
  - ravetcofx 2y ago
    Then time to install Linux or windows with boot camp
ithkuil 2y ago
looking forward to use userspace filesystems with fskit !
- quotemstr 2y ago
  What does fskit do better than MacFUSE?
  - wpm 2y ago
    Not require a third-party kernel extension. Apple is generally much better at development in their kernel, and more judicious about keeping it functional, than other developers.
  - ithkuil 2y ago
    Apple is making if harder and harder to install kernel extensions and so requiring the macfuse dependency is becoming a big burden on your tool and thus that raises the barrier to entry for user space filesystems on mac
- Corrado 2y ago
  Maybe Keybase will upgrade their stuff and actually work on macOS again. One can dream.
- blackpanda467 2y ago
  fskit doesn't work with 15.0 and not included in xcode 16.
wunderland 2y ago
iPhone Mirroring is insanely well-implemented and it's a testament to what only Apple can do. Seamless integration of their products and every just works as you expect.
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  scrcpy works well too for Android, never had a problem https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy
minkles 2y ago
Installed it on test machine. Fine. Installed it on main machine. Fine. Very boring. Can't find any issues to complain about.
vzaliva 2y ago
I feel a little disappointed as most new features announced pertain to applications shipped with the OS, rather than the OS itself. Many of these apps I do not use, as I prefer third-party alternatives. For example, I use Firefox instead of Safari, Signal instead of Messages, and 1Password instead of Passwords, Google Maps instead of Maps. The only OS-level features mentioned are windows tiling and iPhone mirroring. As an Android user, I do not care about the latter, either.
- eschaton 2y ago
  It’s not like OS-level features and improvements aren’t in every release—Apple’s been talking about them since WWDC in developer channels. Read the release notes.
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sunny_sigara 2y ago
Most annoying problems so far.. 1. Screen-recording permission once every week ? 2. No more sudo spctl —master-disable. Alternative way is bit complicated. 2. No more control+ click to bypass gatekeeper. 3. Why tcutil reset Accessibility not working for a specific app? It works for “All” . 4. Script to convert NSURL node ref url to posix url not working. 5. Normal usb Mouse pointer acceleration is not smooth. May be need to re tweak those again. Anything else ? Otherwise all good.
- lostmsu 2y ago
  Screen recording breaks remote access apps
  - wlesieutre 2y ago
    There's a separate entitlement used for remote access software without the repeated prompts (com.apple.developer.persistent-content-capture), so you basically need Apple's permission to build that category of software now, and open source remote access software is not possible. So the category of software will still have some working entries (existing players will try to get approved, and probably will), but it's hard to imagine anyone will want to build a new one knowing its viability on modern macOS completely depends on filling out a form and hoping Apple's approval bureaucracy likes you. Anyone who's used these unusually locked down entitlements know whether you can apply for it before building the software, or if App Review needs to have their hands on something functional first to approve it?
    - antfie 2y ago
      In my experience the app submission needs to be fully functional and then it will be rejected for this reason.
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- Hamuko 2y ago
  Apple locking down the OS even more by making Gatekeeper harder to bypass makes me want to skip this version for as long as possible. The screen recording permission thing also doesn't help since I'm using Ice (https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice) because somehow Apple still can't Sherlock this feature.
greentext 2y ago
It's a great time to switch to Linux.
simonebrunozzi 2y ago
Thank you all for beta testing Sequoia for the rest of us! Jokes apart: I tend to wait 2-3 months at least before upgrading. There's usually a number of security fixes, and a number of bug fixes, in the first, well, 2-3 months after a new Mac OS goes live. After that, things become quite stable.
RadiozRadioz 2y ago
I feel left out sometimes given that I'm still on Mojave. Everyone else is enjoying their new features. But I also like running 32-bit apps and knowing where the system preferences are (because they haven't changed every year for me). So swings and roundabouts.
- codepoet80 2y ago
  Right there with ya. They can pry my perpetually licensed pseudo-32-bit copy of Photoshop off my cold dead Mac Pro…
  - spartanatreyu 2y ago
    Have you tried photopea.com ?
- wpm 2y ago
  I'm thinking of going back. I can't stand the horrific "flat" UI and the crappy white-on-grey-on-light-grey, I hate not having separate window title bars, the combined title/tool bars, the inscrutable buttons labeled with nothing but a squiggle, it's just hideous now. Even though Mojave and Catalina still carry scars from the crimes committed in Yosemite towards good adherence to the HIG, they're miles better.
  - seec 2y ago
    > inscrutable buttons labeled with nothing but a squiggle Something you learn to really like on Windows is how well "described" most of the UI is on hover. In macOS even for seasoned users there are always some things you are never quite sure do and you have to Google much of it. Plenty of the UI is not discoverable, Windows got that part way better.
thesquib 2y ago
There really doesn't seem to be much here that's worthwhile? I'd love it if someone made a better macOS settings app, the current one feels like it's made to be used on an ipad or touchscreen device.
jheriko 2y ago
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aetherspawn 2y ago
Well, 1Password must be feeling pretty sour about how Apple Passwords app is a complete 1:1 clone. They don’t do licenses, credit cards or ssh keys yet so we probably won’t switch… yet
- poszlem 2y ago
  More importantly - it doesn't work on anything but apple hardware.
  - Eric_WVGG 2y ago
    yeah, but at least it's not an Electron app
    - ajyey 2y ago
      Think the backlash regarding 1password’s electron implementation is overblown. I’ve not had any issues with it
  - aetherspawn 2y ago
    They have said it will work on Windows with iCloud desktop app installed. https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/icloud-windows/icw76039ec0f/icloud https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/icloud-windows/icw7603...
    - int_19h 2y ago
      It does indeed work on Windows.
- graeme 2y ago
  1password's biggest clientele use Team accounts. Does Apple support that?
- LeoPanthera 2y ago
  The second sentence invalidates your first - there's a lot of things it doesn't do compared to 1Password. However it also doesn't randomly crash or simply refuse to autofill in Safari, so, I already switched.
quotemstr 2y ago
Can we finally call poll(2) instead of select(2) on a pty? https://nathancraddock.com/blog/macos-dev-tty-polling/ https://nathancraddock.com/blog/macos-dev-tty-polling/ Apple is doing a lot of great things in systems fundamentals, but I wish they'd take some time to clean up warts in their POSIX implementation.
- mmastrac 2y ago
  Still waiting on `pipe2` as well!
Daub 2y ago
From TFA: ‘Highlights automatically surfaces directions for a location’ Is that a mistype? In an apple advertisement? Regardless, the whole thing feels like it has been written by a high school student. Try reading the following without wincing: ‘A redesigned Reader allows users to read articles more quickly with a streamlined view, a summary, and a table of contents, and a new Viewer helps users put videos front and center while still giving them full access to system playback controls.’
- paulrudy 2y ago
  "From TFA: ‘Highlights automatically surfaces directions for a location’ Is that a mistype? In an apple advertisement?" "Highlights" as a singular brand/product/whatever name. Like saying "Postmates delivers stuff"
  - Daub 2y ago
    I understand that, but even so the sentence makes no sense. I assumed that they meant to write: ‘Highlights automatically searches directions for a location’. Pardon my pedantry, but how is it possible to ‘surface’ a direction. Am I missing something? My point stands… the quality of writing in this article is very poor: overly long sentences, clunky information reveal etc. it feels more like a first draft.
    - kstrauser 2y ago
      It “surfaces”, as in “reveals”. Yeah, the wording could’ve been a lot clearer there, but it’s actually correct. Let me try a hand at it: > The new Highlights feature easily reveals directions to the addresses mentioned on a web page.
jdprgm 2y ago
Both iOS and macOS seem to have a strange number of their updates "coming later" and that is not even including Apple Intelligence which they really made the cornerstone of the updates in initial marketing. Very bizarre.
- slimebot80 2y ago
  Happened has you with Universal Control. I'm ok with this. I'd rather they get the core right rather than scrambling to deliver all these nice-to-haves in time, and botching it up.
egypturnash 2y ago
Best new feature: Passwords are a separate app again instead of being a shitty, illegible panel in the inexplicably-unresizable, cramped, tiny-text hell of the iOSified system prefs. Maybe in a couple more major versions we'll have a re-re-designed system prefs app that actually looks like a desktop app again!
- LeoPanthera 2y ago
  "Again"?
  - sthatipamala 2y ago
    They were previously in "Keychain Access," which was primarily an app for administrators so it was also a pretty bad UX.
- imbnwa 2y ago
  How did they F that up so badly
- meindnoch 2y ago
  >Maybe in a couple more major versions we'll have a re-re-designed system prefs app that actually looks like a desktop app again! And it will only take a few dozen seconds to load! Can't wait!
- mjmsmith 2y ago
  I continue to be baffled by why there is a "General" section in Settings on macOS and iOS. Uhhhh, stuff.
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    I have never understood this. Trying to guess if I should look for something in the root level of Settings or in the General subsection? Absolutely no rhyme or reason as far as I can tell. It's why I just use search for settings now. I refuse to keep guessing wrong.
sylens 2y ago
Is it possible to set a custom keyboard shortcut for the native window tiling commands?
- yochem 2y ago
  Yes, System Settings > Keyboard > Keyboard shortcuts > App Shortcuts > All Applications [0]. Pretty cumbersome, and I only get it to remap to "Top Left" and friends, but not just "Left" and "Right". Very frustrating. [0]: https://www.pocket-lint.com/how-to-use-window-tiling-customize-shortcuts-macos-sequoia/ https://www.pocket-lint.com/how-to-use-window-tiling-customi...
xyst 2y ago
Ah yes, another year of “what will Apple break in my workflow this time” tradition. I can’t recall the last time I upgraded immediately. Maybe 2018? Been waiting for minor and patch releases of the bug ridden OS before upgrading myself (if personal device is eligible)
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ArlenBales 2y ago
It's been awhile since I've done a clean install, and my MacBook feels a little crusty/bloated with stuff so I think it's about time. What's the recommended process these days for a direct clean install? If I factory reset my MacBook Pro M1 it'll go back to Ventura, then I have to manually upgrade to Sequoia. I asked ChatGPT and it suggested I create a bootable USB drive install media for Sequoia instead (after downloading Sequoia from the app store): `sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sequoia.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume` That seems a cleaner and more direct solution. Can anyone verify this works without issues? (I'll probably do this over the weekend)
- chasingtheflow 2y ago
  Can’t say I’ve done this recently, but I think if I were doing this today I’d probably install it on the current machine and then boot into recovery mode and reinstall from there. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/erase-and-reinstall-macos-mh27903/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/erase-and-reinstall...
- flutas 2y ago
  Just did it myself today. Personally it was fairly easy using the standard reset UI through settings over doing a full recovery wipe. 1. Upgrade to Sequoia 2. "Erase all Content and Settings" from Settings.
- portpecos 2y ago
  If you really really want to clean it all out, you’ll want to do a DFU wipe and install. Basically you plug a USB-C cable from one MacBook to another and then you upgrade the recoveryOS from the second MacBook which lets you bypass all that resetting to Ventura and then upgrading.
charlie0 2y ago
lol, me reading the comments still on Monterey. Seems like I'm never updating from the looks of it.
thund 2y ago
nice, but still many things to be improved: - iphone mirroring keeps going into "paused" mode, showing a "resume" button - iphone mirroring doesn't unblock apps that need face Id, e.g. whatsapp says "passcode required" without prompting for some form of auth (auto auth is enabled, but no luck) - iphone mirroring is not really "mirroring": one cannot use both app and phone at the same time, and see what is going on. - window tiling shortcut requires dragging a window first, Rectangle is much more flexible ie the window only need to be active - UX for security got worse with "ask every month". Apple doesn't trust us knowing what we're doing, ie there should be a "trust forever" somewhere if I want to - tagging people in Photos is still extremely buggy - sequoia is hard to spell (when googling for info) (just me? lol)
- nsonha 2y ago
  > window tiling shortcut requires dragging a window first man that's so dumb
- int_19h 2y ago
  For me the iOS apps that need FaceID pop up the fingerprint dialog on macOS.
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- kstrauser 2y ago
  “Uoia” is in reverse alphabetical order. That’s how I figured out to spell it without peeking at a dictionary each time to be sure.
adamwk 2y ago
I’m curious about the name. Since the move from cats to California regions, they’ve seemed to be regionally or biom grouped. We were in sierra regions for a while (10.10-10.13) then beach regions (10.13-13). 14 was Sonoma so I would’ve expect Napa, but seems we’re back to sierra mountain regions. I wonder what goes into the product discussions over the name. Is there a rhyme or reason or is it just want sounds best to the PMs and marketers?
InMice 2y ago
Should I still expect the cursor to disappear all the time in Terminal?
- svth 2y ago
  Use iTerm2
  - InMice 2y ago
    I will try again but I believe the same problem happens with iTerm2
gumboshoes 2y ago
Looks like the new security has made it very difficult to use third-party QuickLook plugins. I'm messing with qlmanage and xattr now but so far no luck. A starting point: https://github.com/sindresorhus/quick-look-plugins https://github.com/sindresorhus/quick-look-plugins
- gumboshoes 2y ago
  Some background on an API change: https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/1f00bbx/comment/ljptsy4/ https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/1f00bbx/comment/lj...
brailsafe 2y ago
Please tell me they've fixed the bunk-ass Settings app
djaouen 2y ago
I don't think I will update to this version as I already have and utilize apps that provide said functionality.
mdaniel 2y ago
> And easily access and understand your home electricity use with new Electricity Usage and Rates features[14] > 14: Eligible users include Pacific Gas and Electric Company customers who have residential electrical service, including areas served by Community Choice Aggregators. Users must be the utility account owner or authorized user of the utility account. what an extraordinarily specific feature to put into Home.app. I guess California is a pretty big state, with a pretty big portion of their target market, but still
- pornel 2y ago
  New Maps features launch only in Bay Area. CarPlay EV integration works only with Porsche Taycan. Are they implementing things just for Tim?
  - novok 2y ago
    New features are often launched with partner companies, and then all the PMs have a real life example to go point at to convince their conservative stakeholders to adopt the new thingy. Looking at your power usage is not an apple thing, it's a power company thing to implement.
  - jonathanyc 2y ago
    The way Apple product management works is that everyone is always demoing stuff up the chain and ultimately to Tim. They’re reverentially referred to as “Tim demos” internally. If Tim likes it, you get tons of resources. The downside may be that in the pathological case you’re implementing stuff just for Tim. Another downside is you can’t really demo e.g. high-quality backwards-compatible SDKs to an exec. The upside is you end up with a pretty coherent and un-fickle set of products. Unlike Google, Apple doesn’t have a roster of five (?) competing chat apps that it constantly changes.
    - nolist_policy 2y ago
      Google released their latest chat app 7 years ago.
wwwlouishinofun 2y ago
However, we can't guess whether the judgment is good or not, we need to collect power consumption and loading speed values to prove that the new version is indeed good or not
vouaobrasil 2y ago
15GB for some crappy generative AI. No thanks. Will stick with Monterey as long as possible. This new generative AI thing may just be the thing to make me install Asahi Linux on my computer. Hopefully it's feature-complete enough soon.
dgellow 2y ago
Yearly reminder to not jump ahead directly if you care about your productivity. Just wait a few months, there is no rush to upgrade, you won’t miss anything critical by delaying a bit. macOS releases always come up with issues that are solved in minor/patch versions in the first 3-6 months.
- kstrauser 2y ago
  Always solid advice. Still, I updated a sacrificial laptop to the public beta on day 1 and it’s been one of the most boring-in-a-good-way releases in a while. Save for things like Rogue Amoeba having to update their software to a new API, which is an annual tradition, I honestly don’t recall anything that didn’t work from the start.
droud2024 2y ago
Apple also completely broke firewall on macos 15. /usr/libexec/ApplicationFirewall/socketfilterfw does absolutely nothing. MBP:~ root# /usr/libexec/ApplicationFirewall/socketfilterfw --getappblocked This-App-Never-existed <... > Incoming connection to This-App-Never-existed is permitted. Apple, if you continue release untested products we will start buying Lenovo.
vietvu 2y ago
OK, I will wait for like a month before update.

388 points by mfiguiere 2y ago

carlosjs23 2y ago

* Sequoia is available Proceeds to talk about new App features instead of OS ones.

isodev 2y ago
“This OS update could have been an app update.”
stetrain 2y ago
When the apps are shipped bundled with the OS by the same company, and use new system framework/API features that are part of the OS what is really the distinction?
- black3r 2y ago
  iPhone mirroring, video conferencing and window tiling actually use system frameworks, so it's okay to present them as OS features. New versions of Safari are already available for older macOS versions through System Update for a few years, I've already downloaded Safari 18 on my Sonoma. And for Passwords, Messages, Notes and Maps there's no legit reasons why newer versions can't be distributed through App Store, other than using their new features as a promo for their new macOS...

andreicek 2y ago

I updated, and my whole Elixir/JS setup works like before. I like that they _finally_ added window snapping to the window manager, but keyboard shortcuts are still missing from what I can see. Edit: it is possible! take a look at this Reddit post for a workaround https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dcy6l2/comment/lax90hc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1dcy6l2/comment/lax9...

ang_cire 2y ago
That'll take another 5 years
theshrike79 2y ago
Keyboard shortcuts are either a simple Hammerspoon script or Magnet/Rectangle installation away.
stetrain 2y ago
There are keyboard shortcuts: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/macos-15-sequoia-the-ars-technica-review/5/#h1 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/macos-15-sequoia-the...
pixelbyindex 2y ago
I have been using a little app called Rectangle[1] for years now, and it solves every possible window positioning need I have ever had. No ads, no cost. As far as the conversation goes, 1st party implementation by Apple would be nice and all, but 3rd party doesn't bother me in the slightest. (at least in this case) [1] https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/
- andreicek 2y ago
  I was/am a rectangle pro user!
- __jonas 2y ago
  I mean I use rectangle, and used spectacle before it, and I’m very grateful to the developers for maintaining it and making it available for free, but this really should be part of the OS and I will be very happy to get rid of that app after updating to Sequoia. I also use an app that reverses the scroll direction of an attached USB mouse, without affecting the (natural) trackpad scroll direction, because MacOS does not allow changing them independently (looks like they are separate options for mouse and trackpad but they are in fact the same). The App is called Scroll Reverser [1] it is free and works flawlessly, but it really should not have to exist, it’s ridiculous. [1] https://pilotmoon.com/scrollreverser/ https://pilotmoon.com/scrollreverser/

modeless 2y ago

Window tiling! If you drag a single window to the top does it maximize, and unmaximize when you drag it away? That's been my most wanted feature in macOS since forever (yes I have tried the third party ones). I don't really care about tiling multiple windows, but I've always hated the macOS full screen behavior, and before that the old green button behavior, so an alternative that finally works well (the way Windows has for many years) would be amazing.

cloudking 2y ago
Is it better than Swish? I recently discovered this and it's game changing for trackpad users https://highlyopinionated.co/swish/ https://highlyopinionated.co/swish/
- modeless 2y ago
  That does look pretty cool. Unfortunately my experience with third party window management features has been bad.
  - mm263 2y ago
    Long time Swish user - I think it's pretty good, unlike other solutions I tried
- JoBrad 2y ago
  Have been using Rectangles for a while. I like Swish's tiling options, though! I'll have to give it a try.
  - touristtam 2y ago
    I like Rectangle too, but both Magnet and Swish have feature that seems they would appeal to a lot more Mac users.
AndrewSwift 2y ago
Note that you can option double click the corner of a window to make it fill the screen. I realize that this isn't what you're asking, but it might help.

jjice 2y ago

> With many of the Apple Intelligence models running entirely on device, as well as the introduction of Private Cloud Compute — which extends the privacy and security of Apple devices into the cloud to unlock even more intelligence — Apple Intelligence introduces an extraordinary step forward for privacy in artificial intelligence. They've said this in every mention of Apple AI since the WWDC, but they haven't mentioned at all if you can disable the cloud calls. I'm assuming you won't be able to, but if you can, that will be a very neat guarantee to have. If that same ability comes to an iPhone, I'll be very tempted to break my 10+ year Android tenure.

akmarinov 2y ago
Airplane mode before initiating Siri?
firloop 2y ago
In the beta builds with Apple Intelligence, it is possible to turn the entire feature set off (including cloud calls). Don’t think you can keep the local features and skip the cloud though.
wyager 2y ago
You could try cutting the AI process from the internet using LuLu
NotPractical 2y ago
You seriously can't disable Private Cloud Compute or Apple Intelligence on iOS??
- quenix 2y ago
  You can disable the entirety of Apple Intelligence. You can't enable Apple Intelligence and disable PCC, though.

trvr 2y ago

I am usually slow to upgrade but I jumped on this and iOS 18 immediately because of "iPhone Mirroring". I've only had it for a few minutes, but it's really nice!

sccxy 2y ago
> iPhone Mirroring is not available in your country or region.
- trvr 2y ago
  I'm not taking the bait on that one. ;-)
hollow-moe 2y ago
is it just what scrcpy has been doing for some years already ?
- jwells89 2y ago
  It forwards notifications to your Mac too, even when a mirroring session isn't active.
  - isodev 2y ago
    But that was already part of continuity or was it previously limited to user activities? It’s hilarious that Apple made such a big deal out of it and then failed to release it for everyone.
    - jwells89 2y ago
      NSUserActivity didn't forward notifications, it just provided a way to move whatever you were doing on your other Apple devices to the one you're currently using and only covered things that the dev specifically implemented. This works for all notifications from all apps.

mertbio 2y ago

Thanks to the new API that comes with Sequoia, I developed a new translator app for Menu Bar that doesn’t require internet connection. If you are interested, please have a look: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/offline-translate-translator/id6686403979?l=en-GB&mt=12 https://apps.apple.com/de/app/offline-translate-translator/i...

rafaelturk 2y ago
congrats on your App!
- mertbio 2y ago
  Thank you!
swyx 2y ago
what new api?
gumboshoes 2y ago
I'm probably an advanced translation user, but the possibilities of Easydict is why I stick with it: https://github.com/tisfeng/Easydict https://github.com/tisfeng/Easydict

hit8run 2y ago

Ubuntu is really good these days. If you bought into the apple ecosystem with a recent Mac I’d not bother. But for those of your running a PC Ubuntu is incredible and their new App Store makes finding and installing software super easy. My workstation pc with Ubuntu is insanely faster than my Mac Studio when it comes to jetbrains IDEs. It’s so snappy I first couldn’t believe the performance diff.

vardump 2y ago
How would you install Ubuntu on an M1-M3 Macbook?
- rahen 2y ago
  https://ubuntuasahi.org/ https://ubuntuasahi.org/
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- isodev 2y ago
  If it were me, I’d sell my MacBook and get a max spec KDE Slimbook with 96GB RAM.
  - addandsubtract 2y ago
    If any other laptop had a trackpad like apple, with multi touch and gesture support, I would switch.
    - deleted 2y ago
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    - yoavm 2y ago
      Linux user for the past 20 years - I cannot remember the last laptop I had that didn't have multi touch and gestures support. been using mostly ThinkPads & Dells. I don't know what marketing team created this whole "our trackpad is so different" belief, but they've done a brilliant job!

jmward01 2y ago

A long time ago I started dreading major updates from corporate providers. They push features they want, not features I want. It got so bad with Microsoft that I fled. Apple's updates have been aggressive in resetting my preferences and pushing things like iCloud and their login to the point that they are on the Microsoft path. I am forced to use mac for work but only because of work.

duped 2y ago
Apple is most certainly not the company you want to purchase products from if you're afraid of major updates. They are far more aggressive and eager to break things than Microsoft.
- philistine 2y ago
  Back in 1991, there was an uproar, an uproar I tells you, because System 7 required nearly a megabyte of memory instead of the 600K System 6 could run with. Sure, most users barely had more than a megabyte of memory, but it paints a pattern for sure.
  - DaiPlusPlus 2y ago
    Yes, but System 7 wasn't installed on your computer overnight without you realising it.
    - detourdog 2y ago
      At my office it did. We used system when we networked the office. I kinda think it didn’t really come out until 92 but release windows lasted years.
    - philistine 2y ago
      Apple allows you to completely stop automatic updates. They're on by default, and they're not going to force you to restart. You can always postpone.
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leetharris 2y ago

Weird how the title says, "macOS Sequoia is available today, bringing iPhone Mirroring, Apple Intelligence, and more to Mac" Then you look at the paragraph for this and it says, "Coming Soon: Apple Intelligence" They announced this in June, and it's just loosely coming "this fall." I have a feeling they are finding it very difficult to do anything with any kind of consistency or value on their 8gb RAM phones / Macbooks. Their models they have demonstrated so far are a relatively low parameter count with LoRA adapters for various use cases. I have a feeling that the majority of Apple Intelligence will eventually just be farmed out to their "secure cloud" or whatever they were calling it.

bredren 2y ago
A commonly cited analyst described lower than expected sales of iPhone 16 Pro due to AI features not rolling out until October. https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/15/iphone-16-pro-demand-estimate/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/15/iphone-16-pro-demand-es... I find that a little hard to believe. I would suppose the vast majority of customers don't think a lot about the timing of software features in a purchase decision.
- freeone3000 2y ago
  It’s not as if the hardware features on the 16 Pro are groundbreaking — a slightly nicer camera, a slightly nicer display, a slightly nicer battery life, and a $600 upgrade fee. No, thank you, the software features are what make-or-break the upgrade.
  - shinycode 2y ago
    Phones nowadays are made to last years, even 6+ years easily. So the update this year is not for the people who bought it last year but for people with an iPhone X or 11. They will see major improvements. But it’s silly to update (any) flagship phone every year.
    - freeone3000 2y ago

rahen 2y ago

Will Apple Intelligence be available in the EU after all?

epolanski 2y ago
As an European I very hope not or at least that you can opt out.
- flemhans 2y ago
  Of course you can opt out!
graeme 2y ago
No, the DMA very likely bans it. The EU won't say in advance and has been loudly threatening fines of 10% of global revenue. DMA forbids using your platform's data or position to support a service without giving third parties equal access. Third parties are pretty clearly excluded from screen mirroring or running ai on device, so these seem like things Apple can't legally launch in the EU.
- rahen 2y ago
  I understand the Eurocrats really want to protect us, but sometimes I wish I were protected from the Eurocrats.
XajniN 2y ago
I’m on Sequoia 15.1 beta 4, and I got it enabled yesterday.

rafaelturk 2y ago

Aside from the traditional and expected bells and whistles, are there any major core improvements?

rafaelturk 2y ago
Answering my own question, it looks like window tiling is finally solved.
- rgovostes 2y ago
  Apple always delivers what its customers want, after all alternatives have been exhausted.

andrewstuart 2y ago

I know I'll be seen as an Apple fanbot for saying it, but holy schmoley Apple's operating system-fu just leaves Windows in the dust.

subjectsigma 2y ago
I'm sitting here thinking - man, how is it possible that they can make the best laptop hardware no contest, and yet I still get blurry icons when connecting to a non-retina external display? Something that the cheapest Windows laptop money can buy would do flawlessly? Macs are great and so is macOS, but it's not that good, at the end of the day it's just a computer
- MBCook 2y ago
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  - subjectsigma 2y ago
    I already own two 2560x1440 non-Apple displays that work flawlessly with my Windows PC, they cost $250 apiece, and there is absolutely no way in hell I am selling them and buying a $1599 display because Apple can't fix their egregiously bad software. I'll just live with slightly blurry icons whenever I want to use them with my Mac.
    - MBCook 2y ago
      There are non-Apple options for FAR less.
      - subjectsigma 2y ago
        Yes, but these are the ones I already own and that’s also completely besides the point, which is that they look great on Ubuntu, Windows 10/11, and pretty much every OS that’s not macOS
  - jazzyjackson 2y ago

xlii 2y ago

I recently got bored of Apple ecosystem. Was considering buying System76 for work, but thought that iPhone Mirroring feature would be really neat and decided to wait. Turns out it’s not available in EU because yadda yadda Apple threw a fit. Oh well.

crazygringo 2y ago
> because yadda yadda Apple threw a fit Publicly traded corporations generally engage in strategy. They don't "throw a fit". You're suggesting some kind of emotional immaturity. That's not how these corporations generally operate. I don't know why the iPhone mirroring isn't supported, but I can absolutely guarantee you it's not because anybody is "throwing a fit".
- redserk 2y ago
  This is unnecessarily pedantic. Personifying the behavior of a company is not some new concept. It’s actually rather common. Because a company itself cannot express emotions, the externally facing visible decisions are used as a proxy. For example, a company raising prices to an unexpected level may be described as “greedy”. A company executing a series of decisions that appears misguided or incalculable may be described as “panicking”.
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    > Personifying the behavior of a company is not some new concept. It’s actually rather common. I know, it's common and it's wrong and unhelpful. That's my point. It doesn't help us understand the situation better, but actively misleads us if we're interested in actually analyzing problems and coming up with solutions. And I just looked it up and it appears that Apple isn't supporting it because their reading of the EU law is that they'd have to support iPhone mirroring to third parties like Windows and Linux, where it would be harder or impossible to control the security and privacy. That's something that can be talked about intelligently, whichever side you're on. Saying they're "throwing a fit" is not. It's false, and makes the conversation worse for all of us.
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anothername12 2y ago

Installing it on my mid-2015 MBP thanks to Open Core Patcher!

benbristow 2y ago
Nice that it can still be supported. Couldn't go back to Intel though personally!
- windowsrookie 2y ago
  I have an M1 Air 8GB and a 2018 MBP 16GB. Performance feels about the same until the Air hits swap, then the old Intel MBP still outperforms the M1 Air.
  - benbristow 2y ago
    One you could probably fry bacon on whilst the battery drains in an hour...
    - pcdoodle 2y ago
      I also get great battery life on older intel macbooks (2012 Pro w/Matte Screen 16/GB/4TB SATA + 2015 Air w/2TB NVME). Feels good knowing when my storage wears out, i don't lose the whole machine.
    - windowsrookie 2y ago
      My 2018 MBP 15 is the i7 model, while it gets warm it never had the overheating issues the i9 models had. I also had the battery replaced under AppleCare about 10 months ago so it still gets 7-9 hours of battery life.
  - tonyedgecombe 2y ago
    Interestingly my M1 Air 8GB runs my Rust unit tests about four times as fast as my i7 Mac Mini 16GB.

krelas 2y ago

Here’s one for HN readers, you can now find jq in /usr/bin/ in Sequoia.

subjectsigma 2y ago
Whoa, you're right. How did you know? The developer notes only seem to talk about API changes
- krelas 2y ago
  I manage a lot of Macs, been beta testing since June.
andrelaszlo 2y ago
Is it the BSD jq from 1995? </s> Jk, thanks for the info! It's nice to know it's available on the system by default when writing scripts for my team.
- wpm 2y ago
  Nah just the last GPL2 licensed version from 2008 ope wait that's just bash
vbezhenar 2y ago
Now that's the real feature!
switch007 2y ago
$ jq '.[] | messages | .thank_you' < strings.json wait, maybe it's... $ jq '. | .messages.thank_you' < strings.json darn it! how about $ jq '[].messages.thank_you' < strings.json !??@@!
- LeoPanthera 2y ago
  Figuring out what garbage to type into jq is the best thing about ChatGPT.

rks404 2y ago

Xcode isn't working with Sequoia for me. Anyone else having this issue?

jgtor 2y ago
Have you updated to Xcode 16?

matrix87 2y ago

Honestly most of the time I download these, it's just to get new wallpapers The recent live wallpapers feature is really cool, hopefully they've added more

MBCook 2y ago
They did to tvOS. I’m not sure about macOS but it would be nice.
- MBCook 2y ago
  Update: they did!
windowsrookie 2y ago
The live wallpapers are neat but I noticed they consume ~200MB of RAM, so I don't use them on my 8GB M1 Air.

mrtksn 2y ago

For the first time Apple responded to my bug report through the Feedback Assistant and requested more information, so kind of feel involved in this :) So the bug was about the screen recording permission needed for some apps, Shottr specifically. Despite me allowing screen recording previously macOS Sequoia kept asking me to go into the settings and give the permission. According to Apple, that should have had happened once a week, so I gave a follow up feedback about definitely me not wanting to repeat this more than once. Fingers crossed I won't have to fiddle with permission when taking a screenshot. But unfortunately it appears that they only changed the policy to do it once a month: https://a.dropoverapp.com/cloud/download/50dcbf08-a812-4ef4-b70d-560a18f3693f/ff8ca9dd-4eac-442f-89f1-63e77f3e6596 https://a.dropoverapp.com/cloud/download/50dcbf08-a812-4ef4-... Still better than once a week and the final UI is fine, but IMHO it should have an option to disable this behavior.

mustache_kimono 2y ago
> For the first time Apple responded to my bug report through the Feedback Assistant and requested more information, so kind of feel involved in this :) Same here! I think it was re: locatedb not working? Although I was much more interested in my Feedback re: why dtrace was causing crashes after sleep. As much as I wish Apple were a more open company, if they just responded to Bug Reports, that would be amazing!
lapcat 2y ago
A lot of people complained by this, including the news media. I can guarantee it wasn't your bug report that spurred the change.
- mrtksn 2y ago
  Yeah, probably but that's not the point.
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tristanb 2y ago
That looks a little frustrating. I wonder if there is a way around it?

lwhi 2y ago

Literally nothing I care about. As a web developer I'd be happy if Safari usage fell off a cliff.

atonse 2y ago
I disagree. I like all the privacy protections that Safari gives me as a user. And the safari team seems thoughtful (like the other browser teams) in how they consider features to implement. In fact, I'd like MORE competition in the space, and not having one privacy-addicted company dominating the browser market. Even as a web developer, I haven't encountered enough issues with Safari to warrant that view and what it would mean (fewer privacy protections for web users). In fact, I stopped using Chrome years ago because it used to destroy my battery life. And Safari always felt more snappy and more "native."
- nottorp 2y ago
  > I like all the privacy protections that Safari gives me as a user. ... compared to Chrome, right? Not to Firefox with uBlock Origin and Facebook and Google containers ...
  - atonse 2y ago
    Yeah compared to Chrome. I do like and respect Firefox but it’s hard to take them too seriously as a separate competitor if all their revenue comes from Google. But what choice do they have?
    - nottorp 2y ago
      Well, something about head and ass. I looked into doing a one time donation to them earlier this year but they pushed so hard for a recurring one that they put me off and didn't even get the one time. Besides, from other discussions mostly on HN I get the impression that you can donate to them but you don't know if the money will go to the browser or to their latest crypto or "AI" initiative.
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_lvbh 2y ago

Although I don’t use MacOS, the fact that you can now control an iPhone from a Mac will probably be reverse engineered to allow Linux to do the same at some point. A lot of automation opportunities

dbbk 2y ago
Nope. It uses device attestation.
MBCook 2y ago
I seriously doubt it. It’s heavily secured with capabilities of their custom hardware.
- sroussey 2y ago
  And it requires pairing and the same Apple account
kccqzy 2y ago
Bot farms will love that. A lot of websites are using reCAPTCHA and similar to prevent automation, but a lot of apps do not have anything similar. Maybe they do a jailbreak check and that's it.
lapcat 2y ago
"Available on Mac computers with Apple silicon and Intel-based Mac computers with a T2 Security Chip. Requires that your iPhone and Mac are signed in with the same Apple ID using two-factor authentication" https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-sequoia/ https://www.apple.com/macos/macos-sequoia/
- _lvbh 2y ago
  Ah that sucks. No wonder it isn’t available in the EU
  - hcaz 2y ago
    Been using it in the UK for a while on the beta, works fine

gigatexal 2y ago

I’ve already upgraded everything in my home. All our phones, our watches, our HomePods, our laptops, and our iPads, and the AppleTv. It’s pretty cool! Still playing with things but upgrade went smoothly and I like the customizability.

joshdavham 2y ago
Does this "iPhone Mirroring" thing work with iPads, or just iPhones?
- gigatexal 2y ago
  Hmm dunno. We’ve a mini and one of the new M4 ones and my wife has the M1 air laptop so I’ll have to try that out and get back to you. Thanks for reminding me I totally forgot. Gonna try this with my phone and my laptop.
- gigatexal 2y ago
  Following up I only was able to get the iPhone and work to mirror :/
  - joshdavham 2y ago
    Appreciate the follow up!
threecheese 2y ago
None of my ATVs have the upgrade option yet; I’m a bit worried, as all the homepods and other devices are on 18, and historically version mismatches can wreak havoc on Homekit. I am pretty excited for Siri to start to stop sucking though!

rvz 2y ago

Most likely the second last version of macOS supporting Intel Macs. That is what Apple is not telling you with this announcement.

dkga 2y ago
Intel Mac owner here. The writing is on the wall...
- graeme 2y ago
  I dug into this. Apple's incentives aside, the bulk of intel's chips in macs are no longer supported by Intel or soon won't be. The more time passes the harder it is to keep those machines secure. This is the best article I found on the topic. Note that once a mac is no longer supported for a new os the old os will get security updates for two years after that. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/with-macos-sonoma-intel-macs-are-still-getting-fewer-updates-than-they-used-to/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/with-macos-sonoma-in...
  - wpm 2y ago
    The old OS will generally get most security updates for two years, but that is not a written policy or rule, and Apple has not patched CVEs on older OSes in the past that were well within the N-2 assumption. Most of the time they do, but depending on the data you work with and the risk you can accept, that might not be an acceptable policy.
    - graeme 2y ago
      Thanks, I should have specified that! I'll note that anyone running an out of date MacOS should use Chrome or Firefox. Safari gets its updates via OS updates, whereas third party browsers have their own update cycle.
- ravetcofx 2y ago
  Then time to install Linux or windows with boot camp

ithkuil 2y ago

looking forward to use userspace filesystems with fskit !

quotemstr 2y ago
What does fskit do better than MacFUSE?
- wpm 2y ago
  Not require a third-party kernel extension. Apple is generally much better at development in their kernel, and more judicious about keeping it functional, than other developers.
- ithkuil 2y ago
  Apple is making if harder and harder to install kernel extensions and so requiring the macfuse dependency is becoming a big burden on your tool and thus that raises the barrier to entry for user space filesystems on mac
Corrado 2y ago
Maybe Keybase will upgrade their stuff and actually work on macOS again. One can dream.
blackpanda467 2y ago
fskit doesn't work with 15.0 and not included in xcode 16.

wunderland 2y ago

iPhone Mirroring is insanely well-implemented and it's a testament to what only Apple can do. Seamless integration of their products and every just works as you expect.

jazzyjackson 2y ago
scrcpy works well too for Android, never had a problem https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy

minkles 2y ago

Installed it on test machine. Fine. Installed it on main machine. Fine. Very boring. Can't find any issues to complain about.

vzaliva 2y ago

I feel a little disappointed as most new features announced pertain to applications shipped with the OS, rather than the OS itself. Many of these apps I do not use, as I prefer third-party alternatives. For example, I use Firefox instead of Safari, Signal instead of Messages, and 1Password instead of Passwords, Google Maps instead of Maps. The only OS-level features mentioned are windows tiling and iPhone mirroring. As an Android user, I do not care about the latter, either.

eschaton 2y ago
It’s not like OS-level features and improvements aren’t in every release—Apple’s been talking about them since WWDC in developer channels. Read the release notes.
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sunny_sigara 2y ago

Most annoying problems so far.. 1. Screen-recording permission once every week ? 2. No more sudo spctl —master-disable. Alternative way is bit complicated. 2. No more control+ click to bypass gatekeeper. 3. Why tcutil reset Accessibility not working for a specific app? It works for “All” . 4. Script to convert NSURL node ref url to posix url not working. 5. Normal usb Mouse pointer acceleration is not smooth. May be need to re tweak those again. Anything else ? Otherwise all good.

lostmsu 2y ago
Screen recording breaks remote access apps
- wlesieutre 2y ago
  There's a separate entitlement used for remote access software without the repeated prompts (com.apple.developer.persistent-content-capture), so you basically need Apple's permission to build that category of software now, and open source remote access software is not possible. So the category of software will still have some working entries (existing players will try to get approved, and probably will), but it's hard to imagine anyone will want to build a new one knowing its viability on modern macOS completely depends on filling out a form and hoping Apple's approval bureaucracy likes you. Anyone who's used these unusually locked down entitlements know whether you can apply for it before building the software, or if App Review needs to have their hands on something functional first to approve it?
  - antfie 2y ago
    In my experience the app submission needs to be fully functional and then it will be rejected for this reason.
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Hamuko 2y ago
Apple locking down the OS even more by making Gatekeeper harder to bypass makes me want to skip this version for as long as possible. The screen recording permission thing also doesn't help since I'm using Ice (https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice) because somehow Apple still can't Sherlock this feature.

greentext 2y ago

It's a great time to switch to Linux.

simonebrunozzi 2y ago

Thank you all for beta testing Sequoia for the rest of us! Jokes apart: I tend to wait 2-3 months at least before upgrading. There's usually a number of security fixes, and a number of bug fixes, in the first, well, 2-3 months after a new Mac OS goes live. After that, things become quite stable.

RadiozRadioz 2y ago

I feel left out sometimes given that I'm still on Mojave. Everyone else is enjoying their new features. But I also like running 32-bit apps and knowing where the system preferences are (because they haven't changed every year for me). So swings and roundabouts.

codepoet80 2y ago
Right there with ya. They can pry my perpetually licensed pseudo-32-bit copy of Photoshop off my cold dead Mac Pro…
- spartanatreyu 2y ago
  Have you tried photopea.com ?
wpm 2y ago
I'm thinking of going back. I can't stand the horrific "flat" UI and the crappy white-on-grey-on-light-grey, I hate not having separate window title bars, the combined title/tool bars, the inscrutable buttons labeled with nothing but a squiggle, it's just hideous now. Even though Mojave and Catalina still carry scars from the crimes committed in Yosemite towards good adherence to the HIG, they're miles better.
- seec 2y ago
  > inscrutable buttons labeled with nothing but a squiggle Something you learn to really like on Windows is how well "described" most of the UI is on hover. In macOS even for seasoned users there are always some things you are never quite sure do and you have to Google much of it. Plenty of the UI is not discoverable, Windows got that part way better.

thesquib 2y ago

There really doesn't seem to be much here that's worthwhile? I'd love it if someone made a better macOS settings app, the current one feels like it's made to be used on an ipad or touchscreen device.

jheriko 2y ago

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aetherspawn 2y ago

Well, 1Password must be feeling pretty sour about how Apple Passwords app is a complete 1:1 clone. They don’t do licenses, credit cards or ssh keys yet so we probably won’t switch… yet

poszlem 2y ago
More importantly - it doesn't work on anything but apple hardware.
- Eric_WVGG 2y ago
  yeah, but at least it's not an Electron app
  - ajyey 2y ago
    Think the backlash regarding 1password’s electron implementation is overblown. I’ve not had any issues with it
- aetherspawn 2y ago
  They have said it will work on Windows with iCloud desktop app installed. https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/icloud-windows/icw76039ec0f/icloud https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/icloud-windows/icw7603...
  - int_19h 2y ago
    It does indeed work on Windows.
graeme 2y ago
1password's biggest clientele use Team accounts. Does Apple support that?
LeoPanthera 2y ago
The second sentence invalidates your first - there's a lot of things it doesn't do compared to 1Password. However it also doesn't randomly crash or simply refuse to autofill in Safari, so, I already switched.

quotemstr 2y ago

Can we finally call poll(2) instead of select(2) on a pty? https://nathancraddock.com/blog/macos-dev-tty-polling/ https://nathancraddock.com/blog/macos-dev-tty-polling/ Apple is doing a lot of great things in systems fundamentals, but I wish they'd take some time to clean up warts in their POSIX implementation.

mmastrac 2y ago
Still waiting on `pipe2` as well!

Daub 2y ago

From TFA: ‘Highlights automatically surfaces directions for a location’ Is that a mistype? In an apple advertisement? Regardless, the whole thing feels like it has been written by a high school student. Try reading the following without wincing: ‘A redesigned Reader allows users to read articles more quickly with a streamlined view, a summary, and a table of contents, and a new Viewer helps users put videos front and center while still giving them full access to system playback controls.’

paulrudy 2y ago
"From TFA: ‘Highlights automatically surfaces directions for a location’ Is that a mistype? In an apple advertisement?" "Highlights" as a singular brand/product/whatever name. Like saying "Postmates delivers stuff"
- Daub 2y ago
  I understand that, but even so the sentence makes no sense. I assumed that they meant to write: ‘Highlights automatically searches directions for a location’. Pardon my pedantry, but how is it possible to ‘surface’ a direction. Am I missing something? My point stands… the quality of writing in this article is very poor: overly long sentences, clunky information reveal etc. it feels more like a first draft.
  - kstrauser 2y ago
    It “surfaces”, as in “reveals”. Yeah, the wording could’ve been a lot clearer there, but it’s actually correct. Let me try a hand at it: > The new Highlights feature easily reveals directions to the addresses mentioned on a web page.

jdprgm 2y ago

Both iOS and macOS seem to have a strange number of their updates "coming later" and that is not even including Apple Intelligence which they really made the cornerstone of the updates in initial marketing. Very bizarre.

slimebot80 2y ago
Happened has you with Universal Control. I'm ok with this. I'd rather they get the core right rather than scrambling to deliver all these nice-to-haves in time, and botching it up.

egypturnash 2y ago

Best new feature: Passwords are a separate app again instead of being a shitty, illegible panel in the inexplicably-unresizable, cramped, tiny-text hell of the iOSified system prefs. Maybe in a couple more major versions we'll have a re-re-designed system prefs app that actually looks like a desktop app again!

LeoPanthera 2y ago
"Again"?
- sthatipamala 2y ago
  They were previously in "Keychain Access," which was primarily an app for administrators so it was also a pretty bad UX.
imbnwa 2y ago
How did they F that up so badly
meindnoch 2y ago
>Maybe in a couple more major versions we'll have a re-re-designed system prefs app that actually looks like a desktop app again! And it will only take a few dozen seconds to load! Can't wait!
mjmsmith 2y ago
I continue to be baffled by why there is a "General" section in Settings on macOS and iOS. Uhhhh, stuff.
- crazygringo 2y ago
  I have never understood this. Trying to guess if I should look for something in the root level of Settings or in the General subsection? Absolutely no rhyme or reason as far as I can tell. It's why I just use search for settings now. I refuse to keep guessing wrong.

sylens 2y ago

Is it possible to set a custom keyboard shortcut for the native window tiling commands?

yochem 2y ago
Yes, System Settings > Keyboard > Keyboard shortcuts > App Shortcuts > All Applications [0]. Pretty cumbersome, and I only get it to remap to "Top Left" and friends, but not just "Left" and "Right". Very frustrating. [0]: https://www.pocket-lint.com/how-to-use-window-tiling-customize-shortcuts-macos-sequoia/ https://www.pocket-lint.com/how-to-use-window-tiling-customi...

xyst 2y ago

Ah yes, another year of “what will Apple break in my workflow this time” tradition. I can’t recall the last time I upgraded immediately. Maybe 2018? Been waiting for minor and patch releases of the bug ridden OS before upgrading myself (if personal device is eligible)

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ArlenBales 2y ago

It's been awhile since I've done a clean install, and my MacBook feels a little crusty/bloated with stuff so I think it's about time. What's the recommended process these days for a direct clean install? If I factory reset my MacBook Pro M1 it'll go back to Ventura, then I have to manually upgrade to Sequoia. I asked ChatGPT and it suggested I create a bootable USB drive install media for Sequoia instead (after downloading Sequoia from the app store): `sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sequoia.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume` That seems a cleaner and more direct solution. Can anyone verify this works without issues? (I'll probably do this over the weekend)

chasingtheflow 2y ago
Can’t say I’ve done this recently, but I think if I were doing this today I’d probably install it on the current machine and then boot into recovery mode and reinstall from there. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/erase-and-reinstall-macos-mh27903/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/erase-and-reinstall...
flutas 2y ago
Just did it myself today. Personally it was fairly easy using the standard reset UI through settings over doing a full recovery wipe. 1. Upgrade to Sequoia 2. "Erase all Content and Settings" from Settings.
portpecos 2y ago
If you really really want to clean it all out, you’ll want to do a DFU wipe and install. Basically you plug a USB-C cable from one MacBook to another and then you upgrade the recoveryOS from the second MacBook which lets you bypass all that resetting to Ventura and then upgrading.

charlie0 2y ago

lol, me reading the comments still on Monterey. Seems like I'm never updating from the looks of it.

thund 2y ago

nice, but still many things to be improved: - iphone mirroring keeps going into "paused" mode, showing a "resume" button - iphone mirroring doesn't unblock apps that need face Id, e.g. whatsapp says "passcode required" without prompting for some form of auth (auto auth is enabled, but no luck) - iphone mirroring is not really "mirroring": one cannot use both app and phone at the same time, and see what is going on. - window tiling shortcut requires dragging a window first, Rectangle is much more flexible ie the window only need to be active - UX for security got worse with "ask every month". Apple doesn't trust us knowing what we're doing, ie there should be a "trust forever" somewhere if I want to - tagging people in Photos is still extremely buggy - sequoia is hard to spell (when googling for info) (just me? lol)

nsonha 2y ago
> window tiling shortcut requires dragging a window first man that's so dumb
int_19h 2y ago
For me the iOS apps that need FaceID pop up the fingerprint dialog on macOS.
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kstrauser 2y ago
“Uoia” is in reverse alphabetical order. That’s how I figured out to spell it without peeking at a dictionary each time to be sure.

adamwk 2y ago

I’m curious about the name. Since the move from cats to California regions, they’ve seemed to be regionally or biom grouped. We were in sierra regions for a while (10.10-10.13) then beach regions (10.13-13). 14 was Sonoma so I would’ve expect Napa, but seems we’re back to sierra mountain regions. I wonder what goes into the product discussions over the name. Is there a rhyme or reason or is it just want sounds best to the PMs and marketers?

InMice 2y ago

Should I still expect the cursor to disappear all the time in Terminal?

svth 2y ago
Use iTerm2
- InMice 2y ago
  I will try again but I believe the same problem happens with iTerm2

gumboshoes 2y ago

Looks like the new security has made it very difficult to use third-party QuickLook plugins. I'm messing with qlmanage and xattr now but so far no luck. A starting point: https://github.com/sindresorhus/quick-look-plugins https://github.com/sindresorhus/quick-look-plugins

gumboshoes 2y ago
Some background on an API change: https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/1f00bbx/comment/ljptsy4/ https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/1f00bbx/comment/lj...

brailsafe 2y ago

Please tell me they've fixed the bunk-ass Settings app

djaouen 2y ago

I don't think I will update to this version as I already have and utilize apps that provide said functionality.

mdaniel 2y ago

> And easily access and understand your home electricity use with new Electricity Usage and Rates features[14] > 14: Eligible users include Pacific Gas and Electric Company customers who have residential electrical service, including areas served by Community Choice Aggregators. Users must be the utility account owner or authorized user of the utility account. what an extraordinarily specific feature to put into Home.app. I guess California is a pretty big state, with a pretty big portion of their target market, but still

pornel 2y ago
New Maps features launch only in Bay Area. CarPlay EV integration works only with Porsche Taycan. Are they implementing things just for Tim?
- novok 2y ago
  New features are often launched with partner companies, and then all the PMs have a real life example to go point at to convince their conservative stakeholders to adopt the new thingy. Looking at your power usage is not an apple thing, it's a power company thing to implement.
- jonathanyc 2y ago
  The way Apple product management works is that everyone is always demoing stuff up the chain and ultimately to Tim. They’re reverentially referred to as “Tim demos” internally. If Tim likes it, you get tons of resources. The downside may be that in the pathological case you’re implementing stuff just for Tim. Another downside is you can’t really demo e.g. high-quality backwards-compatible SDKs to an exec. The upside is you end up with a pretty coherent and un-fickle set of products. Unlike Google, Apple doesn’t have a roster of five (?) competing chat apps that it constantly changes.
  - nolist_policy 2y ago
    Google released their latest chat app 7 years ago.

wwwlouishinofun 2y ago

However, we can't guess whether the judgment is good or not, we need to collect power consumption and loading speed values to prove that the new version is indeed good or not

vouaobrasil 2y ago

15GB for some crappy generative AI. No thanks. Will stick with Monterey as long as possible. This new generative AI thing may just be the thing to make me install Asahi Linux on my computer. Hopefully it's feature-complete enough soon.

dgellow 2y ago

Yearly reminder to not jump ahead directly if you care about your productivity. Just wait a few months, there is no rush to upgrade, you won’t miss anything critical by delaying a bit. macOS releases always come up with issues that are solved in minor/patch versions in the first 3-6 months.

kstrauser 2y ago
Always solid advice. Still, I updated a sacrificial laptop to the public beta on day 1 and it’s been one of the most boring-in-a-good-way releases in a while. Save for things like Rogue Amoeba having to update their software to a new API, which is an annual tradition, I honestly don’t recall anything that didn’t work from the start.

droud2024 2y ago

Apple also completely broke firewall on macos 15. /usr/libexec/ApplicationFirewall/socketfilterfw does absolutely nothing. MBP:~ root# /usr/libexec/ApplicationFirewall/socketfilterfw --getappblocked This-App-Never-existed <... > Incoming connection to This-App-Never-existed is permitted. Apple, if you continue release untested products we will start buying Lenovo.

vietvu 2y ago

OK, I will wait for like a month before update.