vouaobrasil

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by vouaobrasil 8d ago
True, eradicated is a strong word and I do think it should be. And as horrible as a cataclysm is, I think it's still going to be less pain for humanity than going forward with this tech.
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by vouaobrasil 9d ago
What the heck? Python is a joy to program in and it's great for making small utilies, scripts, and even programs that don't require incredible performance. Perl is a pretty horrific-looking language.
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by vouaobrasil 9d ago
The problem here is that AI isn't just a problem, it also revealed a problem: too much emphasis on publishing papers and churning out new results. The name of the game right now is just that: make something new and significant. AI itel
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by vouaobrasil 9d ago
No way. Mathematicians don't assume things to be true even if there are no counterexamples.
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by vouaobrasil 9d ago
I agree, if he were talking about programming a game. But he's not. He's talking about how to have fun from a priveleged position.... If Carmack said, "you're wrong in your game design, here's how to do it instead
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by vouaobrasil 9d ago
True. I agree. But I think it's also not very nice of AI programmers to actively work to take that fun away. And part of the skill of keeping a job fun is working against those who do attempt to take the fun away.
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by vouaobrasil 10d ago
We know animals have consciousness and many species have a rich life but we slaughter them and burn down their homes by the millions of hectares. Why not do it with a conscious AI? (I don't think AI is conscious, just following the arg
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by vouaobrasil 10d ago
In general, society is experience a decoupling of fun from work. I can't say I enjoy every aspect of my job, but it's nice to enjoy some of it, and lots of people do find a lot of their job at least somewhat rewarding. People who
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by vouaobrasil 10d ago
> Sure, but some proofs are so complex that even experts can't follow them. If that's the case then I don't see much reason for them to exist in the first place except mental one-upmanship.
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by vouaobrasil 10d ago
From their website: "Mila is a community of more than 1,400 researchers specializing in machine learning and dedicated to scientific excellence and innovation." They're also strong proponents of AI and integrating AI into soc
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by vouaobrasil 10d ago
The real problem is that the environment for healthy learning is gone. At least when I was a kid, there's something magical about having an environment where nobody knows what the hell is going on and the learning is, to use your words
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by vouaobrasil 11d ago
Good for you. But some people need others to know that they are skilled to get a job or to be part of a community. You must be one of those priveleged ones moderately far along in your career that you don't need to worry about that.
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by vouaobrasil 11d ago
LLMs don't need to hide anywhere to be dangerous, though. The danger can come purely from them reaching sufficient power together with some other idiot sufficiently crazy to use them to cause destruction. I mean, in another thread some
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by vouaobrasil 11d ago
Not if the extinction happens after they're dead. Then they wouldn't feel obligated to do so because it won't affect them. Instead, speaking hypothetically, if they truly believed that AI would cause extinction, then they w
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by vouaobrasil 11d ago
AI will never be able to dumb down a proof to a level simple enough for someone to understand who has never studied math and put a lot of effort into it. Some concepts just need time and effort to absorb no matter how relatively simply they
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by vouaobrasil 11d ago
Modern incentives, unfortunately, reward producing solutions rather than going after the joy of solving problems. And it's the latter that inspires others, not the former.
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by vouaobrasil 12d ago
I know. I just thought it was kind of a sad state of affairs....
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by vouaobrasil 12d ago
Well for one, a lot of people now solo dev a project with AI and then often seem to abandon the project. There's not much sense of owndership in some of it. I try and use software that has as little AI influence as possible.
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by vouaobrasil 12d ago
But isn't it a horrible thing that what you just described (being forced by the prisoner's dilemma), is what defines progress these days?
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by vouaobrasil 12d ago
> I feel both with new superpowers and dangerously threatened. In some ways, having a superpower is not all that great because then you are forced by the prisoner's dilemma to use it. And if you think about it, it comes at a cost: a
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by vouaobrasil 12d ago
I would like to have a resource, or maybe a coalition of companies that sign up and offer jobs that are guaranteed not to use AI. Although it might be true that there are some new jobs that didn't exist before, it would be great for pe
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by vouaobrasil 12d ago
It would be great if AI could be completely removed from iOS altogether, including any underlying frameworks.
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by vouaobrasil 13d ago
If there is energy to be used, the system will use it because people always use power when it exists. AI can't do anything to stop it as it is both controlled by the powerful and has been trained on the tendencies of human beings to ge
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by vouaobrasil 13d ago
There will always be people who will like it because they are the ones getting ahead and get some reward. If a person is rewarded for something, it's unlikely that they'll care how the reward comes or be critical of the mechanism.
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by vouaobrasil 13d ago
Not necessarily a bad thing. Just because Carmack has an optimistic view and has some catchet in the programming world doesn't mean he's any more correct than a raving lunatic. Frankly, he said relatively little of substance and i
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by vouaobrasil 13d ago
I don't think the end of the world would even be a bad thing; a lot of people assume that it would be disastrous but I think it's much more likely that it the "end" would just be a fragmentation that would be pretty unco
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by vouaobrasil 13d ago
Not so sure about these analogies in this thread. Because autonomy is more like an emergent phenomenon that can't easily be defined, just like a few air molecules vs the eventual hurricane that can arise with trillions of them. Autonom
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by vouaobrasil 14d ago
No because some people are against AI for reasons other than just slop. Some people actually find it revolting that it uses so much energy and that it encourages deskilling in many. AI in my view is antithetical to human creativity and I tr
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by vouaobrasil 14d ago
> Banning the AI just means that everyone is using it, but nobody is saying it aloud. Since it saves so much time when used correctly. Not exactly. It also attracts developers who are against AI philosophically. What I've actually s
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by vouaobrasil 14d ago
Personally I find it more difficult now to execute my creative vision compared to years ago with a little less tech. I think there's an optimal point to automation that is easily reached and after that the benefit from automation actua

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