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Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft
- alden5 3y agoIt's such a dumb feature too, i don't think there's a single person who wants all the photos on the web "enhanced" it's adding features for the sake of adding features. What people actually want from edge is ads and tabloids not being plastered everywhere, but apparently that's asking too much.
- Aardwolf 3y agoI simply already dislike it because this means when creating a website you can't even rely anymore on the browser showing the image you as website designer intended. What if I'm deliberately showing a comparison of compression artifacts, or a screenshot of bad vs good game textures, or comparing photos of different cameras? Now the browser will alter the intended good vs bad quality comparison.
- arp242 3y agoI've played around with having images being intentionally low-res or full of artifacts, for artistic reasons. This is a bit like "hey Vincent, your paintings are really low-res, let me make them more realistic for you like Rembrandt did!" The feature as such seems okay, and I can even see myself using this on occasion. But it really should be a button in the image or something, for usability and privacy concerns.
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- mokanfar 3y agoReminds me of those DVD players that advertised 'UPSCALE TO 720p' features.
- aspyct 3y agoI want stuff enhanced _locally_. Would love to be able to stream 360p video and have 1080p equivalent quality, for when I'm just absently listening to what's happening. But sending a picture to the cloud, to get a bigger picture in exchange, that sounds stupid.
- crazygringo 3y agoThis is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default. Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly dangerous idea, but I'm shocked that a legal review at Microsoft would ever have approved this in the first place.
- Finnucane 3y agoIndeed, this sounds like a bad idea not just for the user but for the image host as well. If I post a picture, I post it the way I want it to be seen. I don't want the browser to arbitrarily reinterpret it.
- lynx23 3y agoWell, that reminds me of autocorrection in web input fields, turned on automatically. Especially great if there is no proper language detection. You type a message into a text field, and Edge corrects every second word because you are typing in your native langauge, how dare you?! This is totally something I'd enable by default, because, you know, what is there except US and UK? Nah, nothing noteworthy... Ah, the joy. Internationalisation, no surprise its written i18n, it reflects the care and fucks given... Or Apple... I t took them 3 major iOS releases to have umlauts pronounced properly with their speech synth. Umlauts?! Who the fuck needs those?!
- leokennis 3y agoReminds me of the issue where Xerox machines would replace some 9’s on your scanned documents with 0’s due to over enthusiastic compression. https://www.dkriesel.com/en/blog/2013/0802_xerox-workcentres_are_switching_written_numbers_when_scanning https://www.dkriesel.com/en/blog/2013/0802_xerox-workcentres...
- xingped 3y agoHoly cow, the implications of that story were terrifying! I can't believe it took 8yrs for someone to notice!
- RajT88 3y agoThat's nothing. This is on by default: "Allow Microsoft to save your browsing activity including history, usage, favorites, web content, and other browsing data to personalize Microsoft Edge and Microsoft services like ads, search, shopping and news."
- freediver 3y agoIf you are not paying for your browser with your wallet, somebody else is paying for you. It has all sorts of implications.
- janoc 3y agoI didn't know that Windows is now free.
- einr 3y agoIn practice it has been free for home users for many years. I assume the only reason they still keep up the facade that Windows costs money is so they can sell it to OEMs and volume licenses to businesses, which still makes them big bucks.
- mr_toad 3y agoIt only seems free for home use because the activation key for the home version is embedded in NVRAM of the machine by the OEM. You pay the OEM when you buy the machine, and they pay Microsoft.
- einr 3y agoYou pay the OEM once, for a Windows 7 key, and then you run on that -- because it keeps working, with Microsoft's implicit authorization -- for the next 15+ years. They 100% would not let you do that if they cared to charge for Windows like they did in the pre-Windows 8 days when Windows was the product and not the user's data.
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- 7373737373 3y agoSo how can we remove this and other Microsoft spyware from our systems?
- malikNF 3y agoLinux
- inversetelecine 3y agoYou can't (assuming you want to keep Windows), or if you can it makes the OS unusable. There are plenty of custom 'builds' on the net of Windows 10, 11, etc. Microsoft will continue down this path until it becomes unprofitable.
- kevincox 3y agoUse a different OS. You can try to disable each new instance but it will keep coming. These "features" will get harder to disable as time goes on. Microsoft's goal is to make as much money as possible. Your data is worth money. They will attempt to make use of that. Will this harm Windows use long-term? Likely. But it definitely makes money in the short term.
- otikik 3y agoAvoid the whole OS entirely.
- perihelions 3y ago"Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/index.en.html https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/index.en.html "Free Software, Free Society: Selected Essays of Richard M. Stallman" https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fsfs/rms-essays.pdf https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/fsfs/rms-essays.pdf
- tgv 3y agoYou can start by switching to Firefox (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/). It's a perfectly fine browser, good extensions.
- compiler-guy 3y agoSounds like a feature a product manager thought, "Hey this is so cool! look what it did with this narrow set of test cases. We should ship it to everyone and claim impact!" Second order effects are rarely considered, and bad actors ignored.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 3y agoThat's the thing. The feature is kinda cool, but it really should be done based on user input and not automatic ( or at least not default unless user explicitly opts-in ). For me it is mildly more annoying, because at work Edge is the browser and I cannot change anything in it ( mildly, because it is only an issue in principle for me; I don't browse anything non-work related on that PC ). Still, one would think my company does not want to have some stuff uploaded to a third party willy nilly.
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- activiation 3y agoWow.. I'm glad I'm not using Edge... Unfortunately I still need Windows on one computer though
- jqpabc123 3y agoBrave --- the easy way to fix this and lots of other privacy related issues affecting the most popular web browsers. As this article shows, you can fiddle with Edge and other browsers to try and make them more privacy respecting --- but why bother trying to hit a constantly moving target? Clearly, your privacy is not in their best interests and they will only continue to circumvent it.
- LordShredda 3y agoBrave is chromium based, which immediately means it's not going to help with anything
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- hot_gril 3y agoBrave has much worse issues than this. The link hijacking incident alone was reason enough never to trust them again. I'm convinced the whole point is selling snake oil to semi-privacy-conscious people. I even heard an FM radio host advertising Brave, if that says anything.
- unethical_ban 3y agoIssues about telemetry and privacy are separate from issues with web client hegemony.
- drakz 3y agobeing Chromium based != bad for privacy
- freediver 3y ago> Brave --- the easy way to fix this and lots of other privacy related issues affecting the most popular web browsers. Unfortunately any browser with telemetry turned on by default is not fixing privacy related issues, but is making them worse.
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- EMCymatics 3y agoFuck Edge
- ThrowawayTestr 3y agoI hope Microsoft is okay with looking at a lot of porn
- ranting-moth 3y agoThey're fine with it. Just be prepared to explain it to the FBI of your ever mistakenly pull into an investigation. They'll definitely get it from MS.
- InCityDreams 3y agoFbi? Not in my country. Oh, wait....
- 1024core 3y agoJust imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.
- paxys 3y agoYup, pretty common theme on this and other online communities. If Apple does something – this is obviously the correct thing to do, and everyone should copy them. If Microsoft does the same thing – meh, no one cares. If Google or Meta does the same thing – pitchforks, outrage, a thousand daily top-voted blog posts detailing how terrible these companies are. Goes to show how much of the current outrage culture is driven by marketing and perception rather than reality.
- nologic01 3y agothis is such superficial analysis. People use to hate Microsoft because it was a monopoly. Apple was the underdog. Ultimately the MS hate was the perfect case of watch what you wish for. Because both companies back then were actually selling stuff to users. Then came the culture of "do not evil" and "move fast and break things". Users became product, the only clients are the advertisers. Technology was not sold, it was simply provided for "free". This undercut the old MS monopoly which survived because of its corporate stranglehold. Apple flourished through devices and could afford to take the moral high ground on privacy. But the political and regulatory normalization and extreme profitability of surveillance capitalism means that there is no technology company today that can afford not to be an adtech company.
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- AHOHA 3y agoIt’s probably because both MS and Apple actually sell products, hardware and software that used daily and the alternatives aren’t competing much, and then having these “occasional” privacy violations issues, FB/Google on the other hand, having their whole business model about selling your data. But I disagree that they (MS/Apple) get a pass, those are the reasons why some choose to use open source alternatives like linux etc.
- reaperducer 3y agoWow. Viewing TFA in Edge must send a hundred images to Microsoft, since that page is 90% ads. At one point, there are so many ads stacked up that there's no article text left!
- peoplearepeople 3y agoHow does this pass legal review?
- nomel 3y agoWhat do you see as "illegal", with the very fair assumption that MS is competent, with legal matters?
- Merad 3y agoIANAL but it seems like this potentially exposes MS to enormous liability. For example, doctors routinely use web based tools. When they look at images related to a patient's care and MS uploads them to the mothership, has MS violated HIPAA? What about someone browsing images of child sexual abuse? Is MS liable for storing that illegal content on their servers? When a user uploads illegal content to OneDrive it's easy to blame the user, but when MS is harvesting all the content the user views, I'm not sure they get off so easy.
- mrtl 3y agoIt's more than likely anonymized, aggregated data that mostly just counts how many times a given picture was visited globally. If it's over X times, by at least Y unique devices and can be accessed publicly (I.e. Random Microsoft server can access it), then they probably upscale it via AI and redirect future navigations to their version of the picture. Such simple heuristic also circumvents most (or all) the concerns about medical images.
- CatWChainsaw 3y agoWell, apparently Microsoft can violate child privacy laws for $20 million, which is, you know, a drop in their bucket. That's how it passes.
- WirelessGigabit 3y agoMicrosoft Edge has become a place where Microsoft can try out things at a much faster pace than Windows update. But that means it's getting all of these features by default, leaking yorur data to Microsoft and with deceptive questions to make you use Bing as the default search engine. Every time I get the prompt I need to do a double take because they use their 'blue button' thing as a way to guide you to a certain choice. Same thing with downloading a file. Do you want to keep it? Yes. Are you sure? And then you need to EXPAND something and click something that looks like a link, not a button to keep the file. That's just bad. A link shouldn't cause an action to be executed.
- mistrial9 3y agothe purpose is to make a record of what you are doing on the Internet.. detailed records. Its a feature for management, tax officials and to some extent ordinary law enforcement. Secondly, the records in aggregate show trends and activity, to sell ads, and might have other commercial value, or value to MSFT+partners with new product areas. This kind of record keeping was mocked for thirty years in the West when it was done in other places, now its here on the "standard" PC. PC sales have slowed in the last dozen years. This is the kind of invasive, unbridled abuse you get now on a "personal computer"
- Camisa 3y agoIf you use windows it will routinely set edge back to the default browser. The web team of microsoft is absolutely disgusting in every possible way, and it has always been.
- hospitalJail 3y agoChanging your M$ settings was basically my last straw. I fixed my Windows install to be perfect, took me hours. A few weeks later, it was reverted.
- vips7L 3y agoThis has never happened to me with Windows as a daily driver since 2014.
- PascLeRasc 3y agoThis has happened to me several times.
- sitzkrieg 3y agoheavy handed forced moat tactic
- xnx 3y agoThe super resolution "feature" is a pretense for the data collection. This is not accidental.
- hot_gril 3y agoI installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the desktop. It finally left me along after a while, but I know there will be updates and Edge will try to reassert itself. Win10 wasn't this bad a few years ago. I'm not normally careful about privacy and never felt Linux was a worthwhile alternative on desktop, but this was so plain annoying that I'd probably pick Linux on my primary PC nowadays if I didn't already have a Mac.
- NotYourLawyer 3y ago> Forced me to make a Microsoft online account They actually don’t quite force this. They just make it very difficult to find the option to use a local account instead. (Unless they’ve changed things for the worse since last time I installed windows. Very possible!)
- hot_gril 3y agoI remember it being hard before but still having the button hidden somewhere. This time I looked for it and didn't see it. Maybe if I didn't connect it to wifi at all, it would've let me do it. I originally connected cause I figured there'd be OTA updates and wasn't about to restart the whole process. Also, the entire reason I was even doing 10 instead of 7 is this laptop came with 10.
- tredre3 3y agoOn W10 you only get the option to create a local account if your network is disconnected, and only after multiple screens of insistence. A normal person being asked to connect to wifi during setup will do so and never have the option to not create a MS account. So it may not be impossible to create an offline account, but for all intents and purposes they do force your hand. On W11 you have to resort to more esoteric tricks, you can't actually complete setup normally without network and a ms account.
- chasing 3y agoI don't want my browser manipulating the content of websites I visit without me asking it to. At all.
- foxandmouse 3y agoWe need to get off the GitHub and VsCode dependency before LLM tooling makes it too difficult. It's just a matter of time until those business units are integrated into Microsoft's system of perverse incentives.
- isoprophlex 3y agoJetbrains make great IDEs, Codeium isn't half bad as a copilot replacement, and there are other git hosts that are fine too...
- empyrrhicist 3y agoAt least there's stuff like VSCodium.
- courseofaction 3y agoWhat are the competitive alternatives to GitHub for an average programmer? I feel very locked in by the amount of content and ease of use.
- niutech 3y agoGitlab, Bitbucket.
- cesarb 3y agoIf I were the webmaster of a site which hosted non-public images, this news would be enough for me to either block Edge by its user agent (with an error page explaining the reasoning and alternatives), at least on the pages which contain the images, or omit the images (replacing them with an explanatory message) when the browser is Edge.
- johnfernow 3y agoThis is exactly what needs to happen to get Microsoft to stop doing things like this. How many sites not working properly does it take for someone to switch browsers? Maybe as little as 1, if the user really wants or needs to use that site. That, and lawsuits (as others have mentioned, this easily could have resulted in violating HIPAA and other laws) could help stop behavior like this. But fines are the price of doing business for many companies, so outright blocking Edge may be even more effective. I want competition in the browser space, but Microsoft simply has not offered that in over 15 years. IE obviously was worse than Chrome and Firefox in many ways, the original Edge still had worse W3C compliance and performance than Chrome and Firefox, and the new Edge is just a Chromium fork. They seem highly interested in getting your data, but not all that interested in actually creating an good product. I'm not even sure why Microsoft is doing things like this at this time. If they wanted to increase the number of Edge users, this is not the way to do so. Are they content having less than 10% of users on desktop and just want to milk those users for all they can? As others have said [1], even if this was done locally (so that there'd be no privacy concern), this is is a terrible feature to have on by default due to the risk of inserting false details. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36295837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36295837
- BasedAnon 3y agoWhen are people going to grow a backbone and switch to Linux? It's kind of hard to feel sorry for tech-literate Windows users
- NotYourLawyer 3y agoWhen my job starts supporting that?
- isoprophlex 3y agoI don't know your circumstances of course, but I'm anal enough about this that I'd consider that a deal breaker. An employer that forces me to use an OS that treats me like the audience to a television soap opera (meaning, a dumb shmuck who can be puppeted around) is not worth it, it'll kill my joy in working real quick. Tried it, it was horror. So right now, I'd say I'd rather drink my own piss than use a windows box as my daily workstation.
- PascLeRasc 3y agoHow are you verifying this in job interviews? Not using Windows is at the top of my list of wants in a new job, to me it'd be as good as a $10k raise. But I'm aware that asking about this during an interview sounds petty.
- isoprophlex 3y agoI get that, I felt petty too, but I'm much more productive, and much happier without windows. So you gotta frame it like that. "The cloud runs on linux, I'm most productive when developing natively on something close to where we deploy, can I not use windows?", or, "I have years of bash muscle memory and automate a great deal of mundane tasks, is it okay if I use linux?" Or otherwise make it a gentle enquiry, "I see you provide laptops, can I get a linux/Mac machine to work on?" Framing is key ;) Edit: personally I outright asked "can I choose my own OS, I can't deal with windows, it makes my head hurt" or something like that. If you have the confidence just tell em how it is.
- rtsil 3y agoI rarely use Edge, and going through its settings because of this, I realized it has now a VPN and it is enabled by default on http websites. That's unacceptable.
- gordian-not 3y agoThe feature makes sense but more in an Apple context and without uploading stuff 1. You have a good enough onboard AI chip you can use to run this locally 2. You only do it for low resolution photos 3. You have a screen with a lot of pixels This can be nice when Apple releases their latest ultra super retina screen and most web pages suck
- jmartrican 3y agoMS turns evil when it comes to the browser. Maybe for other things too, but I definitely notice it when it comes to their browser. Like every time Edge upgrades, it asks questions using weird wordage to get you to click on setting it as the default browser.
- 29athrowaway 3y agoHere is how you disable that: 1. Go to your favorite search engine 2. Download a different browser 3. Never use Edge again
- acomjean 3y agoIts funny you mention that. I was helping with a windows laptop. I swear using edge to download chromium and firefox, the browser didn't stop me, but put a bar at the top saying how I should give "Edge" a try for my browsing needs. It was a little startling, realizing the browser is watching the url and that someone had to write code for that scenario. there is it, was not remembering wrong: https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/2/22813733/microsoft-windows-edge-download-chrome-prompts https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/2/22813733/microsoft-window...
- 29athrowaway 3y agoThe pinnacle of psychopathy.
- phoenixreader 3y agoThis feature is not public, right? Not on my Edge installation. It's only on canary.
- npteljes 3y agoFunnily enough, I have it on my Linux Edge browser. Version 113.0.1774.42.
- f1shy 3y agoI find interesting, that video processing (where it could make sense to use “cloud computing” is made locally, but pictures remotely…
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- swader999 3y agoAnd we trust the guy to advise/pontificate/steer the health care and also the WHO.
- hexo 3y agoSimple, stop supporting website on this thing. Like many sites do with firefox for a long time already. We've been there with IE. With safari. Now its time do to it to edge.
- unsupp0rted 3y agoEdge keeps adding buttons and sidebars that I didn’t ask for and don’t want to take the time to keep or hide. Safari is a peaceful tenant.
- heisenbit 3y agoWow, this is beyond anything allowed in law if I understand it right. Imagine you are looking at corporate IPR or private medical data (some MRI scans come with a browser based viewer to give a concrete real-life example).
- wintorez 3y agoMicrosoft: "Let's find the lowest possible point, and then see if we can go any lower."
- james_pm 3y agoEdge would be my everyday browser if they would just stop with all this crap they keep adding that both causes bloat and also diminishes user privacy.
- autoexec 3y agoI love the options they give you to "disable" this. There's a toggle for "Enhance images for all sites" which if enabled gives them the URL of every image you view, but if you disable that, you're still allowing MS to "Enhance" images and collect data on some sites. MS could for example still collect data on every other image you see. Then MS gives you boxes where you can enter the sites you don't want them to enhance images on, which I'm sure they collect via telemetry anyway. What's missing, and actually needed to prevent data collection, is a "Do NOT enhance images for ANY site" option which MS does not provide.
- aunetx 3y agoAnd this option disabled by default of course
- moomoo11 3y agowindows is made for the average consumer. Makes sense MSFT would do everything they can to extract as much info about users.
- spirit557 3y agoMicrosoft Edge is insane. The amount of privacy invasion it has by default, the constant nagging to re-enable and undo all your changes to the defaults, and maze of settings you have to disable is just crazy. Is there anything it doesn't phone home? Every image, everything you type, history, absolutely everything. I was interested in it initially but I 100% avoid this browser now. I feel like it takes 20-30 minutes to comb through all the different settings everywhere in the browser and even then we hear about bugs that leak it all anyways. Microsoft edge is a complete disgrace.
- jacooper 3y agoI mean is it worse than chrome?
- doodlesdev 3y agoYes.
- jacooper 3y agoHow? Chrome send your browsing historyz search prompts, browsing activity all to google. I meat at least Microsoft has additional features for that data?
- bagacrap 3y agoChrome sends my search queries to my search provider. What an evil bastard eh
- mr_toad 3y agoIt doesn’t send your search’s to Google if you don’t use Google search. It also won’t send your browsing history, although the web site itself will probably try.
- jacooper 3y agoIt does send your browsing history to google.
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- masswerk 3y agoAren't there copyright concerns involved? When I'm publishing an image, I invest some time into presenting it just as I intend it to be seen, including the orchestration of sharpness. My intent that this is exactly what I want to arrive at the user and is to be seen is expressed and enforced by HTTPS encryption. And now MS circumvents this in order to apply whatever filtering they think may suit best, thus exchanging the content behind the scenes? Moreover, doesn't this involve breaking protective encryption? (Maybe not in a strict technical sense, but still.)
- noodles_nomore 3y agoI can't believe Microsoft would do this, *huff* *puff*. What an outrage!
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- noAnswer 3y agoAfter Edge showed me a "Get a better price at"-Ad while I was doing online banking, I disabled all those services except for the Image one. Because the German translation doesn't mention that the images will go to MS. Good to know I have to disable this option too.
- dagaci 3y agoI just checked the enhance images thing and its switched off on multiple machines checked. I dont use Edge for much so this must be the default (Edge is annoying). This may be a thing with Beta versions of Edge browser but not released versions. I think neowin.net is missleading people in to believing that its the default for the excitement. Most likely everything is on by default in the beta versions because of beta testing scenarios.....
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y agoA future where Microsoft is enforced is a worrying future, specially since emergent powers are becoming serious competition..
- dahwolf 3y agoMicrosoft doesn't even try to pretend anymore. Shamelessly piggy-backing Windows and Edge for a whole series of secondary goals with no care in the world about this being user-hostile or open market manipulation. I guess you could say that they're back. Funny thing is that in large corporations, Edge is often preferred as the default browser over Chrome, for Edge being a "cleaner" Chrome.
- 10g1k 3y agohttps://brave.com/ https://brave.com/
- JohnFen 3y agoThat's par for the course. This sort of thing is one of the several big reasons why I will never use Microsoft products for anything.
- llm_nerd 3y agoDid Edge remove this in a recent iteration or something? In the current Edge on Windows x64, macOS x64, and macOS Apple Silicon does not have this option.
- zer0zzz 3y ago"Microsoft can’t be trusted." That's why I use Google Chrome on Windows... wait.
- yoyopa 3y agoi wouldn't be surprised if all the desktop and phone os's are sending everything anyway for the last ten years or so... at this point who cares?
- throwawayms11 3y agoRemember, if you are not paying for it then you are the product.
- Tozen 3y ago"I'm Not Surprised Motherf*ckers!" -- Nate Diaz
- Woodi 3y agoNothing new on MS doings, same od dumbiness of gov's overwatch...
- mjburgess 3y agoUnless this is against the law it will keep happening. "Unreasonable search and seizure" needs to become a legal duty on platforms, where the bar for "reasonable" (absent extremely informed consent) is very high.
- chaosbolt 3y agoI use windows 10 ltsc on one of my personal laptops, and yesterday I had to use ms teams... you actually have to try hard to make software that bad, it's on the level of itunes on windows, and itunes isn't like that because of incompetence obviously but greed, so ms teams gives you those fake choices of "you can log in if you want" "you can use your login across your windows pc" and it doesn't have yes or no just close and continue/signin. I obviously will never use edge because of how slimy their tactics to push have been, but it really surprises me how this disrespect of privacy still surprises people, they've been doing it for a long time: telemetry, linkedin reseting its user's privacy settings every other month, can't uninstall edge on windows 11 without scripts, r/windows shills deleting any negative comment, etc. wouldn't surprise me to find out they're training LLMs on private github repos or just copying them for their own apps.
- aspyct 3y agoForget sending the pictures I view to MS, what about the pictures my customers view? I work as a photographer half the time, and opted out of using lightroom and other cloud services because I don't want my images to land in the various clouds and AI bullshit. But I guess now I don't have any control over that anymore, do I?
- jimmywatersabc 3y agoTLDR: F MS. I only use a Microsoft PC for gaming. I use MacOS generally, because I prefer its UX & general software & hardware quality. I use Linux Desktop if I choose not to use MacOS for some reason. I would never want to use Microsoft for anything. I would not use it at all, if it weren't that its the primary OS for most PC games. ...And... just found out I can run Squad on Linux via steam. Ill have to start looking into gaming on Linux.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoCreating the future tools of suppression.
- xnx 3y agoCombine this with Microsoft's habit of helpfully reverting settings changes you've made after Windows updates (or any other time they feel like it).