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- ascar 3y agoReddit is working fine for me in Germany. Was also browsing it about an hour ago. HN has problems for me tho. Geographically limited CDN/backbone issue?
- xyzzy4747 3y agoKarma at its finest.
- pepy 3y agoprobably connected with this https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65855608 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65855608
- innocenat 3y agoReddit almost always have problem around this time everyday though.
- Trasmatta 3y agoNo it doesn't
- FPL_Truth 3y agoThe site doesn't have global outages every day, come on now.
- kjkjadksj 3y agoEvery day might be hyperbole but every week not so much
- innocenat 3y agoIf it doesn't it sure feel that way. Around 12am to 2am Japan time there will be a period of time where I simply cannot access Reddit.
- throwaway1777 3y agoMight be something unique to your own setup or location. Never noticed this myself in years.
- onli 3y agoThat's likely to be a routing problem, related to your ISP or something in between. Reddit really is not down that much.
- innocenat 3y agoIf it is because of that it sure isn't just me because Downdetector and RedditStatus also show blips in outage during those time.
- jonathantf2 3y agoJust getting a "You broke reddit" message - wonder if they've taken this time to do some maintenance or something?
- MisterBastahrd 3y agoHappens every day. Either "You broke reddit" or "Our CDN failed to reach our servers." You would think that a company trying to have an IPO sometime in the near future would have a better control over basic shit breaking. There's nothing complex about their software and it's been breaking in the same way for years now.
- r0bbbo 3y agoLots of speculation on Twitter about this—a failed attempt to re-open all closed subreddits and instate their own moderators. I can't imagine it'd be that, although I do enjoy the conspiracy, and more likely they were using the window of reduced traffic to make some larger changes and they went awry
- paxys 3y agoPointless speculation. Reddit has constant outages of this exact nature almost weekly. There's nothing special about this one.
- ljm 3y ago80% of requests to Reddit via their web UI are basically 500s or CDN errors. Hyperbolic I know, but that’s what it feels like.
- jonathantf2 3y agoDoes it? I usually use Reddit on my lunch about this time every day and I can't remember the last time it was down.
- philote 3y agoI run into issues on occasion, usually with loading comments. I use the web interface. Interestingly, HN is being really slow for me right now and also gave an error when I first loaded it. Maybe something more global is going on, like network or cdn issues?
- fer 3y agospez to the investors: > No, you see, it was not a protest, it was simply a small outage, nothing to worry about. Joking aside, I have a few bots monitoring content and I saw ~10% drops in comment activity before the outage (vs. the baseline from last week).
- fumar 3y agoYou saw 10% comment drops in subreddits still available or are you saying 10% of comments overall on all of reddit including the privacy subreddits?
- fer 3y agoOn all still available. I don't expect (recently) privated subs to have a ton of activity anyway.
- fumar 3y ago10% drops in overall comments so average pre and post or 10% in comment rates? I only ask out pure curiosity. I don't expect Reddit will ever publish engagement impacts during this period.
- EMCymatics 3y agoThere is a lot of fake/controlled activity and frequently this is leveraged against tech executives.
- doublerabbit 3y agoHN is acting slow in responsiveness too, DDoS?
- mysterydip 3y agoGlad it's not just me. I usually use this site as a test to see if my connection is good.
- iLoveOncall 3y agoYou know there are websites made for that purpose like speedtest.net, right?
- tester457 3y agoBut those don't come with complimentary dopamine upon success.
- mysterydip 3y agoI should have said "one of". I know of other sites. I already have HN up in a tab. Hitting refresh to see response time is a first check before going to others.
- taneq 3y agoWhere else do you think the wave of reddit users will crash? Slashdot? Some federated assemblage like Mastodon or Lemmy? An indie clone trying to be to reddit what reddit was to digg? I'm guessing all of the above.
- FPL_Truth 3y agoThe "federated" alternatives are such crap. It's so user-unfriendly and confusing, there is no way a normal person would be able to enjoy browsing crap like lemmy/kbin.
- internetter 3y ago
- EMCymatics 3y agonews.ycombinator is also very slow
- taneq 3y agoYou might say they're experiencing an outrage.
- albert_e 3y agoyep I thought of going with that title :)
- robertakarobin 3y agoIt seems many services are experiencing an uptick in outages at the moment: https://downdetector.com/ https://downdetector.com/
- EMCymatics 3y agoI'll be pissed if outlook goes down again
- albert_e 3y agoAs someone not responsible for Outlook, the last time we had Outlook/AD outage ... the sense of calm that I experienced knowing that no one is able to send me any emails even if just for an hour ... cannot be explained in mere words :)
- aaronax 3y agoThis is not normal. I highly recommend some alterations to your workflow/notification settings/something. You should not spend your whole day getting stressed out by email toasts.
- albert_e 3y agoAs someone not responsible for Outlook, the last time we had Outlook/AS outage ... the sense of calm that I experienced knowing that no one is able to send me any emails even if just for an hour ... cannot be explained in mere words :)
- arnaudsm 3y agoI wonder if there is a correlation between industry layoffs and outages
- jkells 3y agoThe scale on those graphs is wildly different. Office have 120 down reports per period. Reddit has 40,000.
- rockbruno 3y agoHN is also really slow, this could be a wider-spread backend issue like when that one CDN took down half of the internet with it.
- WillPostForFood 3y agoOr all the ppl missing Reddit are on HN to fill the need.
- shanefromfargo 3y agoWhat's up guys!? That's me. Really enjoying my time on HN so far. It reminds of what Reddit used to be like.
- melech_ric 3y agoI think you're being facetious here, but HN does have a more than passing resemblance to early Reddit. I remember reading Joel Spolsky's blog when he promoted Reddit. I jumped over for look and stayed. Threads and discussion were heavily tech focused. The format was a nice departure from slashdot, and there was a lack of digital "turf" wars. (Subreddits came along years later.) 16(?) years on - Reddit has metastisized into something different. I still enjoy parts of it, but it's definitely not the same beast it was in the beginning.
- sureglymop 3y agoLet's hope this place doesn't get overrun...
- elegylegacy 3y agoThat's literally why I'm here right now. I usually browse Reddit with my morning coffee, this has been a pleasant alternative
- xattt 3y agoEternal June for HN begins…
- asylteltine 3y agoOn the day of the blackout? Yeah total coincidence
- Moose_the_Goose 3y ago<conspiracy> Disgruntled user ddos attack? or So Reddit can blame the lower traffic on technical issues. </conspiracy>
- LordOmlette 3y agoIt is likely related to the blackout due to the reddit CEO being dishonest about the upcoming API pricing changes. You can read more here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/1476fkn/reddit_blackout_2023_save_3rd_party_apps/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/1476fkn/reddit_bl... Er, you will be able to read more at that link whenever reddit comes back online :-/
- cente 3y agoNo? Making some subs private doesn't have anything to do with the site blackout.
- Timon3 3y agoHow do you know? Someone else posited the theory that the frontpage service has to search for posts for too long due to the blackout. How do you prove this is not the case?
- post-it 3y agoCan't prove it's not aliens.
- Timon3 3y agoAnother sibling comment was added 2 minutes ago, where Reddit themselves state that the blackout is the cause: > According to Reddit, the blackout is responsible for the problems. “A significant number of subreddits shifting to private caused some expected stability issues, and we’ve been working on resolving the anticipated issue,” spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells The Verge. Maybe you should think a bit harder about the difference between "this thing that is actively happening could be the cause" and "aliens could be the cause"?
- godshatter 3y agoIf they anticipated it, why did it become an issue?
- konraditurbe 3y agoScaled down a few instances to save a few bucks while traffic will be down due to protests, calculated wrong.
- iLoveOncall 3y agoThis is just the usual message you get when they are overloaded. Goes to show how successful this "boycott" is.
- graeme 3y agoOver 90% of subreddits are currently dark. Impossible they had an excess of traffic
- iLoveOncall 3y agoBy far not 90% of the subs are dark. It's 6000 subs out of 500,000, or 1.2%. Most people don't care at all about this blackout and are just checking the homepage anyway, which will always pull content no matter what. Reddit always has issues at this time (NA wakes up, EU gets off of work), nothing unusual.
- hendersoon 3y agoIt's likely true that most people just browse, don't login, and don't subscribe to subreddits they enjoy. Of course those people don't contribute to their site either, although they do see the advertisements. Anyway for those of us that do login and follow specific topics, I can speak for my own experience, which is that every single subreddit I read was shutdown this morning other than r/worldnews and r/diablo4.
- transcriptase 3y agoIt’s easily 90% of the subs that people actually go to Reddit for. Nobody cares about the 400 subscriber subreddit from some small town in Idaho with 3 people online at any given moment.
- Infinity315 3y ago1.2% of subs does not imply that 1.2% of the user base is gone. A lot of those 500k subs have less than 5k subscribers. Only a small portion of subreddits contribute to the vast amount of content on reddit.
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- 942 3y agoThousands of subs are down to protest Reddit's upcoming API charges.
- 13of40 3y agoWhat I see is interesting behavior, though: 1. The page loads but no content is shown on either the home page or my profile page. 2. It says I'm not logged in. 3. It has a list of recent subs I've looked at. I have no idea what their architecture looks like, but I would guess it's statically served javascript that gets all of its data from some web API, and that API is down.
- two_handfuls 3y agoNice try. We’re not visiting Reddit on 12th-14th.
- jaysinn_420 3y agoOr ever again? I deleted Apollo from my phone last night, and I haven't had a bookmark for their awful website in years. Any future visits would be misclicks, just like birdsite.
- samstave 3y agoI just wonder what the internal reaction to apex’s comments have been? Or investor relations? Or YCs input tosses, mayhaps? Does PG stay in touch?
- hgsgm 3y agoThe front page is full of posts and most of them link to the "page not found" error page, and most of the rest link to "you don't have access" (I forget the exact wording).
- bobbob1921 3y agoSame for me on Reddit (page not found)- Also hn is throwing occasional “can’t serve your request” errors
- thenulldevice 3y ago[flagged]
- kstrauser 3y agoDang it, null. What have you done? What have you done?
- leetbulb 3y agoPretty big blip for a lot of services https://downdetector.com/ https://downdetector.com/
- bhouston 3y agoyup, some type of shared cloud infrastructure is definitely having problems. Reddit is just what we noticed first.
- vidanay 3y agoLOL, FPL looks like an EKG.
- scrum-treats 3y agoLooks like both AWS and Azure. Reddit is on AWS (as is Apple, which is showing interruptions per downdetector).
- TwoFactor 3y agoThe spikes for others sites aren't nearly as large - 100 reports vs 50,000 for reddit
- r721 3y agoThere's a spike on Downdetector's chart: https://downdetector.com/status/reddit/ https://downdetector.com/status/reddit/ Nothing on redditstatus.com (yet?): https://www.redditstatus.com/ https://www.redditstatus.com/ UPD Currently on redditstatus.com: >Reddit Failing to Load >Identified - We're aware of problems loading content and are working to resolve the issues as quickly as possible. Jun 12, 2023 - 07:58 PDT
- chunk_waffle 3y agoThere's lies, damn lies, and status pages.
- brookst 3y agoStatus pages are the worst of all things to work on. First, deciding what to put on them is PM hell. Is it customer-facing? Developer-facing? Both? Then, for each item, how do you test so you can be really sure? Half the time tests will produce either false negatives or false positives. If your test writes data (like, say, posting a comment), is it a meaningful test of it's to a test or demo topic? But if it's to real topics, the test itself becomes user impacting. Or you can use traffic stats to estimate whether things are going well, but then your traffic stats are question. Something may report zero traffic when things are great, or normal traffic when things are broken. Then you have the classic "the tests are failing because the testing infra is broken, but production users are fine." There just isn't a good answer to most of the problems status pages face. So, yeah, they suck, but I think there may be a Godel argument here that it is not possible for them to be timely, meaningful, and accurate.
- CGamesPlay 3y agoMost of this is about automated status pages, but it doesn't apply to status pages where the incident response team manually says "yes there is a problem" and "ok all problems are fixed".
- brookst 3y ago
- apricot 3y agoJust tried to go to the site, got the "You broke reddit!" page. They don't know how right they are.
- Applejinx 3y agoI just got that! Laughed my ass off. If ya say so!
- doublerabbit 3y agoSuch a friendly message for the user as an error. /s
- londons_explore 3y agoReddit is up for me, and the homepage content actually seems, if anything, a little improved. There is lots of stuff from AskReddit and some tech subreddits I'm subscribed to. Gone is all the junk from /r/pics and memes etc. If my experience is common, this "48 hour blackout" won't have the intended effect.
- redmerchant2 3y agoIf all you care about is news then it’s interchangeable with any news aggregator. I’m in it for specialty subs which are all shut down. Hobby and niche interest subs which are the real life blood of the site IMO.
- londons_explore 3y agoIt has comments which are frequently either funny or insightful. Most news sites either don't have comments, or have comments full of spam and low effort content.
- selykg 3y agoWell they're definitely making it easier for me to avoid Reddit going forward. I really do not like using the mobile reddit app and the whole 3rd party api debacle has me looking at alternative communities and I've found a couple of good stand-ins for the two most frequented ones for me on Reddit. I can probably replace the video game related ones with some RSS feeds for some popular gaming news sites. No big deal there. I replaced r/financialindependence with bogleheads and r/guitar with thegearpage. I'll definitely miss some of the random subs, but whatever. Reddit has been a time sink for me for awhile this is a great excuse to move on.
- newman8r 3y agoWould be cool to have a directory with alternative communities for every subreddit
- DaSHacka 3y agoTrue, or even a centralized place for Reddit alternatives that's not on Reddit...
- mdaniel 3y agohttps://alternativeto.net/software/reddit/?license=opensource https://alternativeto.net/software/reddit/?license=opensourc...
- jmholla 3y agoThere's a Hacker News conversation about that right now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36293789 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36293789
- gremlinsinc 3y agoI only use relay for Reddit, and only ever will. I never use desktop Reddit, well rarely and only with the enhancement suite.
- user3939382 3y agoI just got a message from /u/reddit warning about "harrassment" because I respectfully disagreed with someone's woke politics. Hopefully it can stay out forever.
- swader999 3y agoSo normal operations then.
- Nextgrid 3y agoI wonder if they forcibly tried to reopen the closed subreddits and due to cold caches the entire thing fell over as traffic started hitting the reopened ones?
- Veliladon 3y agoChecking the default list against the private list is usually an O(1) because none of them are on the private list. Now almost all of them are. It's going from O(1) to basically O(n^2) worst case. For millions of users. I wonder why Reddit is down?
- leetcrew 3y agothis doesn't make a lot of sense to me. do you have some archetectural insight, or just guessing? fetching a list of default/subscribed subs and comparing it against the whole list of private subs every time someone loads your homepage sounds like a pretty bad design. why wouldn't something as fundamental as a private/public flag be stored in the main db entry for the subreddit? either way, this doesn't seem like a probable root cause. checking a list of default subs against the list of private subs would be expensive under any circumstances. having all the default subs added to the private list wouldn't really change the already terrible performance by much. there just aren't that many default subs to begin with.
- chongli 3y agoEvery logged-in user gets a custom home page generated from their personal list of subscribed subreddits. They may be generating this page on a per-post basis rather than a per-sub basis, expecting that in the average case users aren't going to be subscribed to a bunch private subs that they have no access to. If that is the case, then generating the home page for a user is going to be hitting a lot of posts from private subs which have to be skipped over until enough accessible posts are reached to fill the page. And in the case of the official app, infinite scrolling is going to lead to constant pressure to generate the list of posts.
- jedberg 3y agoProtip: If you desperately need your fix, load reddit in an incognito window. You'll get the last cached version from the CDN.
- Euphorbium 3y agoI got a cant reach cdn error
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- dotnet00 3y ago'Reddit finally finds a way to become profitable' is not what's going on. Reddit's own claims are conflicting, they simultaneously argue that other apps are causing them massive losses in terms of opportunity cost while arguing that they represent an insignificant portion of users. They've argued that the apps are too inefficient in their API usage while their own app is no better, and despite their claims, they demonstrably haven't tried to actually work with app devs to resolve this. On top of that they're making these changes without having addressed the issues the 3rd party tools exist for despite having promised to do so for many years now. Them later backpedaling and attempting to carve out special exemptions for those only makes them look worse. It'd be a lot less egregious if they were like Twitter and just said the obvious about how they didn't want to allow 3rd party apps anymore. Instead they're engaged in this scummy game of lies about how they really want to work with the community, so it makes perfect sense that the community is opposing them.
- rurp 3y agoYou're making quite a leap to go from "This company should be sustainable" -> "Every terrible decision they make to that end should be endorsed". There are good and bad ways to make money and Reddit is making a lot of terrible decisions lately.
- scambier 3y agoBetter to break it entirely than to show the blackout, I guess.
- EamonnMR 3y agoHN is experiencing some serious slowness, I wonder if everyone is checking here.
- RobotToaster 3y agoPutting my tinfoil hat on, could they be doing it deliberately? So spez can blame the drop in visitors on a random outage rather than the boycott?
- leetharris 3y ago[flagged]
- hgsgm 3y agoThere is daylight between "free" and "90% profit margin" that makes Reddit cost more than a premium streaming TV subscription.
- ncallaway 3y agoBeing unprofitable and seeking profit does not entitle someone to bait and switch tactics. And that's simply what this is, just over a longer time-scale. Bait and switch tactics are immoral and in some cases illegal. Yes, companies should seek profitability, yes it's good for the infinite VC money to stop propping up unhealthy companies. No, unhealthy companies shouldn't seek to get to profitability by abusing their users. > I know people are upset about the CEO being a twat, but that's a separate issue. Is it separate? Given that he's being a twat to the specific person that originally raised the concerns
- kiklion 3y ago> Reddit finally finds a way to possibly become profitable and everyone calls them scumbags focused on profit? If the numbers shared for the API costs is what it takes to be profitable, then it’s not a site that will be profitable and Reddit will go under.
- cyanydeez 3y agothis sounds like a bad faith argument. Everyone knows what profit motive is, cost of doing business, etc. Assume you're talking to people who know what it takes to run a website, and start, first, with the numbers that have been calculated. According to apollo app, to keep their 3rd party app running, reddit was requesting about $20 million dollars. If you go look at what apollo charges, it's significantly less than that. Reddit's defense of that charge isnt: Apollo is taking our users, our ad revenue and we want that to be in-house, in our own app, etc. They're saying "this is the cost of the API". Now, start there, and dial in your criticism to some actual details.
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- drcongo 3y agoSo does HN
- cramjabsyn 3y agoToday is the coordinated reddit "protest" day. Some ideas off the top of my head... DDOS activity from pissed off stakeholders related to the protest System ops using their access to further blackout action A botched administrative action to reopen subs
- fullstop 3y agoI have to imagine that many people are deleting all of their comments / submissions.
- briffle 3y agoI can't imagine the DB load of hundreds of thousands of people deleting all their comments. https://shreddit.com/ https://shreddit.com/
- capableweb 3y agoIt's very likely that a deletion at reddit is just setting "is_deleted" to true in a row, not actually a proper DB removal.
- briffle 3y agoI can't imagine the DB load of hundreds of thousands of people deleting all their comments. https://github.com/andrewbanchich/shreddit https://github.com/andrewbanchich/shreddit
- 0x0203 3y agoSeems entirely possible that this might be caused by a spike in traffic from everyone checking out the site to see how much of a ghost town it really is?
- activiation 3y agoHN too, a few seconds ago: https://i.imgur.com/2vCWU0Y.png https://i.imgur.com/2vCWU0Y.png
- seanalltogether 3y agohaving all these subs go private is probably slowing down the business logic for generating everyone's front page.
- mnsh 3y agoHN is feeling janky too, not sure if it's related to this.
- tivert 3y agoIronically, old.reddit.com appears to be (partially) working right now: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/142l1i0/archiveteam_has_saved_over_108_billion_reddit/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/142l1i0/archiv... https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/142l1i0/archiveteam_has_saved_over_108_billion_reddit/ https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/142l1i0/archiv...
- EthicalSimilar 3y ago> Our CDN was unable to reach our servers Not for me.
- cocoa19 3y agoNot for me, I get a "you broke reddit" message.
- tsunamifury 3y agoReddit being gone for a while actually makes me feel like the world is a better place. Somehow knowing even for a brief moment no one is there and I’m not missing out on anything makes me feel… more alive and excited to interact with the world. sounds bizarre I know… but I wish more social media shut down now.
- tenpies 3y ago[flagged]
- kibwen 3y agoI propose shutting down all social media on Wednesdays, indefinitely. (Sure, this idea is taken from Ready Player One, but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea!)
- godshatter 3y agoIn the world of Ready Player One, it was a terrible idea because most of the economic activity of that world passes through their servers. Stopping most economic transactions one day a week is maybe a little bit much. Here, it's a much better idea.
- nerdbert 3y agoIn the idiotic world of Ready Player One, the Jesus Gamer said that all kids would get five days of virtual school a week and then a minute later said that the entire system would be shut down for one of those days.
- gl-prod 3y agoIt should be the law, 2 days without social media.
- Shocka1 3y agoI say this all the time - instead of Wednesdays though, I propose everyday.
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- Freaky 3y agoblock out quick on egress from any to <reddit> It's for your own good.
- entropie 3y agoIf I was a reddit admin I would think it might be smart to use the outage to bring software updates.
- omniglottal 3y agoIf you think an unscheduled outage is a good opportunity to deploy new features, I can see why you're not an admin...
- entropie 3y agoI (obviously) meant the majority of subreddits going dark [1] [1] https://reddark.untone.uk/ https://reddark.untone.uk/
- tdstein 3y agoSmells like a DDoS. It's difficult to know if it is a coordinated attack or an unexpected side effect of the protest. HTTP/1.1 429 Too Many Requests Connection: keep-alive Content-Type: application/json Access-Control-Expose-Headers: retry-after, x-sentry-rate-limits, x-sentry-error Vary: Origin Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 14:49:00 GMT Content-Length: 45 Access-Control-Allow-Origin: https://www.reddit.com https://www.reddit.com retry-after: 14 x-sentry-rate-limits: 14:default;error;security;attachment:organization:error_usage_exceeded
- aeyes 3y agoThat is a response from Sentry telling you that they are rate limiting error ingestion for Reddit, probably because they have a lot of errors at the moment.
- capableweb 3y agoThere is also a DDPA (Distributed Digital Preservation "Attack") ongoing that maybe make things worse too.
- rebane2001 3y agohttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/DPoS https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/DPoS
- thehumanmeat 3y agoDefinitely smells like some sad reddit mod got upset and is enacting "payback".
- scrum-treats 3y agoCould be the government. Telecom is impacted as well.
- kshacker 3y agoWhat I am presenting below is a joke. Their counts went way low so the monitoring said something is odd a drop of 50% is quite abnormal and failed them over. Same story on the other side. Now they are trying to change the thresholds to say that do not alert or fail over on these thresholds. But while they were doing that they got their EKS bill and they realized they can make / save more money just by being down.
- samstave 3y agohttps://xkcd.com/806/ https://xkcd.com/806/
- samstave 3y agoI suspect a cloudflare outage. based on the images from downdetector, a major IX/BGP-peering site went down. Thats why you see the upstream up-tick in outage/delay reporting before the site outages. Som IX went down.
- tdstein 3y agoSmells like a DDoS. It's difficult to know if this is a coordinated attack or a side effect of the ongoing protest. HTTP/1.1 429 Too Many Requests Connection: keep-alive Content-Type: application/json Access-Control-Expose-Headers: retry-after, x-sentry-rate-limits, x-sentry-error Vary: Origin Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 14:49:00 GMT Content-Length: 45 Access-Control-Allow-Origin: https://www.reddit.com https://www.reddit.com retry-after: 14 x-sentry-rate-limits: 14:default;error;security;attachment:organization:error_usage_exceeded
- random_upvoter 3y agoMonday morning, therefore a flood of bored office workers.
- silver911r 3y ago[flagged]
- hakube 3y agoHN is also slow right now
- billwear 3y agomight as well just rename it to "Deddit" and move on....
- LeifCarrotson 3y agoOh, so that's why I started to get 503 errors from my archive and delete scripts. Certainly hitting the site harder today by trying to crawl 8 years and 70,000 karma worth of comments in preparation for deleting the account than by browsing my usual subreddits.
- ptntp 3y agoYou Broke reddit.
- happytiger 3y agoI’d imagine it’s the massive number of user delete requests of people wiping their accounts in protest.
- LeifCarrotson 3y agoCertainly an abnormal usage pattern - I've personally tried a handful of backup and delete scripts, and have been waking up a lot of cold storage today. But how many many non-cached requests does it take to overwhelm the servers? Obviously scraping my comments page for years-old data is going to hit the backend hard and isn't going to have a traffic pattern at all like the front page of my subscriptions, but I'd assume that they had far more capacity available than would be required to handle that. The number of people currently running a Greasemonkey or Python script against the archive is higher than it's ever been, but it has to be a miniscule, infinitesimal fraction of their normal traffic - right?
- rightbyte 3y agoMany back-ends are a house of cards depending on some cache to keep it from crashing. It would not surprise me if some small number of simultaneous deleters would crash it.
- ineedausername 3y agotime to migrate to 4chan
- archon 3y agoPure speculation: With so many subs now private, they're hitting a performance wall searching for enough content to fill the front page. If I'm logged in and go to the site root, it throws an error. If logged out, it works. If I go to a specific (not privatized) sub, it works.
- turtleyacht 3y agoYeah :) Front page was a for loop and too many subreddits went dark
- coopierez 3y agoI'm experiencing the same. /r/games is not private and it works.
- skulk 3y agoAnother anecdote: top posts of all time load for me, even top posts this week. But front page and r/popular don't.
- agloe_dreams 3y agoI would expect most of the 'top' categories are cached with a long-ish TTL. If Reddit's DB is down that would explain why those types of sorts are functioning.
- jeanlucas 3y agoOne thing that could be happening is many clients/bots/crawlers pinging pages that gone private now and that is overwhelming servers.
- DaSHacka 3y agoWouldn't that be easier on the server load? You're ust displaying the error page instead of actually grabbing the feed of the subreddit
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- lopkeny12ko 3y agoThis is almost certainly a counter-protest from Reddit, Inc. in response to the subreddit blackouts.
- BasedAnon 3y agoHacker News seems to be struggling rn too. I'm guessing people started scraping Reddit, then it crashed so people are coming here instead.
- memetomancer 3y agoSo... I visited Reddit before coming here and finding the HN thread... Most of the site is rebelling, but I took the time to visit, intending to give them impressions, just to see how they are holding up. And of course they aren't really holding up as we can see. But their handling is unbelievably tone deaf - I was greeted by the message that I broke Reddit. They gave me the grade of 'F'. I refreshed the page and they showed me a cartoon corpse. I get that it's a tongue-in-cheek leftover from happier times, but considering the circumstances it sure came off as hostility aimed at the few people willing to give them a chance on this dark day. I mean, I was really just rubbernecking... so maybe i deserved it for my schadenfreude, but still. It is casual hostility directed at the source of their user generated content. It's not in good taste. But I suspect it would never occur to the entitled mindset of their leadership.
- bbbobbb 3y agoThose error pages are actually infuriating. Maybe I'm just getting older but seeing "You broke reddit" and all the other shit annoys the hell out of me. It's their website, the error should be "we fucked sometning up, sorry" and be done with it.
- ryanstorm 3y agoImagine being a non-tech savvy user or someone who understands the world more literally than figuratively. That sort of message could be pretty confusing for them.
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- jerjerjer 3y agoUsers can't read error messages anyway.
- capableweb 3y agoI don't think showing "you broke reddit" for a 5xx request counts as an error message. If it was a 4xx, maybe.
- shadowgovt 3y agoPure speculation on my part, but I bet they're getting hugged. Just a good ol' fashion "traffic pattern has changed and now you're being hugged to death," at a scale not even Reddit can rapidly address. My guess is it's caused by (but indirectly) the Reddit Strike. Here's the thing: because Reddit doesn't require you to be logged in to see posts in most subreddits (especially the most popular ones), having those subs go private has caused a bunch of poorly-maintained automated infrastructure to hit its barely-tested retry/fallback code. How many repeater / archiver bots for subreddits are out there? Who knows. So now a bunch of bespoke, heterogeneous bots are saying "Oh, I got a nonstandard response from that page... Probably a transient issue, I'll try again in 30 seconds with no backoff. And of course, I'm faking my thumbprint to just look like a regular Chrome instance so I don't trip the bog-standard bot detection that'd stop me from doing what my creator wants me to do." So I bet Reddit admins woke up today to a firestorm of continuously-failed-retried queries and they're having to figure out how to separate wheat from chaff in realtime. A related, but different, potential explanation: Reddit never had to test at scale the performance of bouncing users from private subreddits and it turns out that query is itself expensive for some reason that didn't come up in small-scale testing, so now Reddit's own infrastructure is setting itself aflame as the world is waking up, pinging the most popular subreddits, and triggering a near-query-of-death every time they do it.
- xmdx 3y agoCloudflare is having issues and I noticed HN is going down for me (takes multiple reloads to work) so might not just be them.
- jgrahamc 3y agoGiven that neither Reddit nor Hacker News use Cloudflare...
- Timber-6539 3y agoSo does HN for me.
- Semaphor 3y agokbin.social, reddit and hackernews all down or slow. It’s a virus affecting reddit-likes!
- oldstrangers 3y agoDaily reminder that no one has any idea what they're doing. Twitter failing, Reddit being murdered. Improvisational Business Comedy.
- jodrellblank 3y ago> "Daily reminder that no one has any idea what they're doing." Both these quotes apply uncomfortably well to Silicon Valley global tech companies and their owners: > "…what civilisation is, is 6 billion people, trying to make themselves happy by standing on each-others shoulders and kicking each others teeth in. It’s not a pleasant situation. And yet, you can stand back and look at this planet and see that we have; the money, the power, the medical understanding, the scientific knowhow, the love and the community to produce a kind of human paradise. But we are led by the least among us; the least intelligent, the least noble, the least visionary and we do not fight back against the dehumanising values that are handed down as control icons. This is something … I mean, I don’t really want to get off on this tare because it’s a lecture in its self but … culture is not your friend. Culture is for other people’s convenience and the convenience of various institutions; churches, companies, tax-collection schemes and what have you. It is not your friend. It insults you. It disempowers you. It uses and abuses you. None of us are well treated by culture, yet we glorify the creative potential of the individual, the rights of the individual, we understand the felt presence of experience is what is most important. But the culture is a perversion; *it fetishises objects, it creates consumer mania, it preaches endless forms of false happiness, endless forms of false understanding* in the form of squirrely religions and silly cults. It invites people to diminish themselves and dehumanise themselves by behaving like machines; *processors of memes* passed down from Madison Avenue and Hollywood.” Separately: > "Don’t get the idea that it’s this liberal rap about how everybody has a piece of the action. You know, the Jews know something, the Buddhists know something, the Huichol know something. Nonsense! Rubbish! Nobody knows anything. These are different kinds of shell games that have been worked out by priestly castes of people to keep things under control. Institutions seek to maximize control, control, control! That’s what they’re into. Did you think they were in the business of enlightening you? Saving your soul? Forget it! Control is what this is all about. And to the degree that we commit ourselves to ideology, we are poisoned. Any ideology—Marxism, Catholicism, objectivism, you name it. Rubbish. All rubbish." - Terence McKenna
- smiley1437 3y agoIs reddit being down causing hackernews to get hammered? It's as slow as the Apple news day
- paulproteus 3y agoAllowing Apollo to operate would cost $20M in opportunity cost for Reddit. But not allowing Apollo to operate has an opportunity cost in website downtime. I am amused!
- agloe_dreams 3y agoNot sure that's a fair value. In this case the opportunity cost would be the amount Apollo would have actually paid (maybe $1M max) rather than $20M.
- 0x0f_4 3y agothis being intentional? doesn't seem to far fetched at this point...
- coding123 3y agoWhenever reddit is down, HN gets smashed.
- chakintosh 3y agoSeems HN is also having outages. I'm getting server errors trying to access posts.
- timetraveller26 3y agoWhatever the cause is, not really good timing :)
- ck2 3y agoIt's clearly a DDoS and that's not cool. 100% okay with the other protests but you don't DDoS websites Not to mention it's illegal in many countries.
- Glench 3y agoGod what a mess. If anyone else is interested in leaving Reddit I made a browser extension you can use to batch delete your Reddit posts and comments: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bulk-delete-reddit-posts/nbfdoajmaaohkohdnbpjakamhcaaleco?hl=en&authuser=0 https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bulk-delete-reddit... Let me know how it works for you if you try it! Still fixing bugs.
- DaSHacka 3y agoDoes it overwrite the content of each comment before deleting it? Otherwise it's still publicly visible and would have less of an effect
- Glench 3y agoIt doesn't yet, but that's not how deleting on Reddit works. When you delete a comment it isn't still publicly visible.
- pretext-1 3y agoDon’t know if this is still the case but back when Reddit was open source they would keep the comment in the database on deletion, but using the edit feature you could actually remove the content from the db.
- drumhead 3y agoOld Reddit is working lol. If that's not a sign I don't know what is.
- squarefoot 3y agoI'm experiencing the same here on HN right now: general slowness plus timeouts.
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- AlecSchueler 3y agoSeems like HN is struggling with the load from the spill-over as well!
- miroljub 3y agoHN is also very slow. Looks like it can't handle all the traffic when Reddit is down. After all, it looks like these's significant overlap between Reddit and HN users, as much as HN folks see itself as a kind of elite when comparing to Reddit.
- boatsie 3y agoWhat if Reddit took their site down as a counter protest?
- Ekaros 3y agoJust goes to show that Reddit is more popular than ever. They can't even serve the increased traffic. Clearly the protestors are wrong and their going black is inefficient.
- vondur 3y agoReddit seems fine to me as of right now. (8:30AM PST) This site however, is having issues loading for me.
- abluecloud 3y ago“A significant number of subreddits shifting to private caused some expected stability issues, and we’ve been working on resolving the anticipated issue,” spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells The Verge.
- EnderWT 3y ago> According to Reddit, the blackout is responsible for the problems. “A significant number of subreddits shifting to private caused some expected stability issues, and we’ve been working on resolving the anticipated issue,” spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells The Verge. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754780/reddit-api-updates-changes-news-announcements https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754780/reddit-api-update...
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- fotta 3y agoaccording to [0], '“A significant number of subreddits shifting to private caused some expected stability issues, and we’ve been working on resolving the anticipated issue,” said Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt.' [0] https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/12/reddit-goes-down-just-as-a-site-wide-protest-against-its-unpopular-new-api-policy-kicks-off/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/12/reddit-goes-down-just-as-a...
- dehrmann 3y agoI wonder when we'll start seeing internal drama leaking out. Engineers are rarely happy to be woken up on Monday morning because of decisions by leadership.
- KnobbleMcKnees 3y agoMore speculation but seems logical: traffic is a) much different in size and patterns than usual and b) being driven to areas that usually have much lower traffic, meaning caching and scaling are both being forced up against patterns of site usage that have never been tested or planned for.
- KnobbleMcKnees 3y agoIndeed it was https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/12/23758002/reddit-crashing-api-protest-subreddit-private-going-dark https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/12/23758002/reddit-crashing-...
- bmcclure 3y agoI’m using Power Delete Suite to overwrite then nuke all my old content. peace out reddit.
- BulgarianIdiot 3y agoMy sci-fi theory is that the boycott freed up so much unused RAM and CPU at their datacenter that it went into meltdown.
- pschastain 3y agoCloudflare is having issues, could be that
- B1FF_PSUVM 3y agoI have a Reddit account some years old, a few score comments, mostly on closed subreddits. Took a bit for my profile page to show only the two comments left on unclosed subreddits. Might be that kind of thing.
- AtNightWeCode 3y agoI blocked some fingerprint-BS-script and then it worked just like normal.
- comprev 3y agoI am seeing a large percentage of NSFW tagged posts on old.reddit.com - not logged in (I don't even have an account) and browsing from generic BT home broadband in the UK.
- bradlys 3y agoI find these Reddit focused threads on HN to be lackluster. They read just like threads on Reddit do. Which is - uninspired, dull, and repetitive. I hope we stop talking about Reddit because the only people who seem to ever give a shit about that website and talk about in other places have these other attributes that make it dreadful to read their whinging.
- bluepod4 3y agoThis isn’t unusual. I don’t use Reddit often and have seen it out several times this year, which says a lot.
- Pr0ject217 3y agoEvery page I visit is now a private community... really?
- ParetoOptimal 3y agoYes, it's a wonderfully successful boycot: https://save3rdpartyapps.com/ https://save3rdpartyapps.com/ Twitch: https://m.twitch.tv/reddark_247 https://m.twitch.tv/reddark_247
- Pr0ject217 3y agoOh, thank you.
- fareesh 3y agoThe average redditor would not care if they replaced a bunch of mods with people sympathetic to the cause of management (paid off). I would consider it highly improbable that this has not happened before - e.g. r politics
- ecommerceguy 3y agoHow Reddit Got Huge: Tons of Fake Accounts https://www.vice.com/en/article/z4444w/how-reddit-got-huge-tons-of-fake-accounts--2 https://www.vice.com/en/article/z4444w/how-reddit-got-huge-t... Reddit has always seemed to have gotten a pass when it comes to being a cesspool of fake accounts, what we would call bots today. I'm really hoping it fails, it's leadership team has always been amongst the worst of the tech companies.
- dopa42365 3y agoSomething that happened 15 years ago when reddit had 50 users isn't evidence for anything today, really.
- ecommerceguy 3y agoLike I said, Reddit has seemed to have always (including now) received a pass when it comes to fake accounts responding to each other to make it seem Reddit had more activity then in reality. Certainly unethical then and I don't think much has changed as far as ethics goes, now.
- zeruch 3y agoI think you're being a bit overblown. If it was just bots, it would have fizzled out sooner; the bot account trash has waxed and waned over time, but I suspect the big reason it worked is that for years it allowed any subcommunity to emerge naturally rather than trying to predicatively shape it. And there are many worse examples of leadership in tech than Reddit. If anything until recently most of its C-suite historically (post founders) has been uninteresting enough to care. No one on the scale of a Gates, Neuman, Ellison, etc. The recent turdstorm however, does signal a likely lamentable shift downward.
- rvba 3y agoThe bots didnt disappear. They just got better and harder to spot.
- onetokeoverthe 3y ago
- rovr138 3y agoI wonder how they handle private subs. If it’s certain users, they can’t simply cache the private page. With everyone checking, this would add a lot of overhead. With apps like reddark, and other bots running this would create a lot of load. There’s also an archive team project running so that’s a LOT of nodes hitting the site.
- lordfrito 3y ago𝐅rom my perspective, this is the beginning of the end for Reddit. 𝐔ser hostile interface decisions were just the beginning. 𝐂oncerns of the user base and moderators are now actively being ignored. 𝐊ey admin features used by moderators are going away and with no replacement. 𝐑eddit, like Digg, is now prioritizing profit over community. 𝐄xcessive monetization will continue to dilute userbase goodwill. 𝐃espite what their management says, the advertisers are all they care about. 𝐃estroying any good with with remaining 3rd party devs. 𝐈t's been a long, slow decline. 𝐓he end can't come quickly enough for me.
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- seattle_life 3y agoI think Time to start submitting feedback on Google search results that some sub-Reddits pages aren't loading, and others are set to private?
- rldjbpin 3y agoi am on the fence with this drama. while i have been struggling with using reddit for past few years, especially on mobile browser, i would like to see the company push through their objectives. to me, this situation highlights how much power mods have over a subreddit. while i recognize their role in maintaining communities without pay, the community exists because of all users that contribute to it. it didn't seem like the communities had much say in the subreddits going offline, which is very concerning.