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Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A
- lol768 6y agoBit of a shame we still won't be seeing 5G for a while.
- bdz 6y ago4A Review from Marques https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlHnleQU9tQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlHnleQU9tQ
- jeffbee 6y agoI love his reviews. Notable quirk in this review: around 5:10 where he starts talking about how usable the software is, he also makes an erroneous gesture with his thumb and has to do it again. This is my experience with the Pixel 3a. The gestures require a range of motion that my thumb just does not have. This isn't going to be any better with the 4a, which is even bigger than the 3a.
- what_ever 6y agoI disagree - MKBHD has gone downhill and has really surface level reviews these days. He pays more attention to how the video looks instead of the actual content itself. Plus questionable associated with OnePlus.
- ehsankia 6y agoHe mentions mono speaker but other reviewers all say it's stereo (well, the same stereo other pixels are, which uses earpiece)
- gempir 6y agoHe corrected himself in a comment. It does use the earpiece as a speaker aswell.
- metadaemon 6y agoI wish these came out earlier this year. Maybe next time around!
- mtgx 6y agoBattery capacity continues to be disappointing with most Google phones. They always seem to choose them on the lower-end side compared to the competition. The phone is a good value overall, but 3,100 mAh will hardly last you one day and be almost empty by night. I prefer phones with more generous batteries, so that there's never a risk of running out by the end of the day. Hopefully Pixel 5a will come with 4,500-5,000 mAh next year, as many low-end $200-$300 phones have these days.
- csours 6y agoI dream of the day where Pixel or iPhone has solid state batteries.
- ShamelessC 6y agoYeah the battery on my Pixel 4 is pretty bad even after I turned off all the machine learning features that make it a unique device in the first place.
- nfriedly 6y agoI 100% agree with you. My Pixel 2 is now ~2.5 years old and the performance is still perfectly fine, except that I have to charge it twice a day. It usually lasted a full day when it was new, though. I'm interested in some of the recent flagships and gaming phones that have 5-6000mAh batteries and settings to not charge up to 100% every night. Once the battery is big enough, you can do things like that to extend the longevity. I'm hoping to see more of that.
- wccrawford 6y agoDoes the 4a still disable the USBC video-out? I've wanted to use that feature a few times in the last few years and I'm bummed that the Pixel line hasn't supported it.
- pizza234 6y agoI guess that they have a conflict of interest in supporting it, due to Chromecast.
- _nothing 6y agoThat seems so backwards if truly a factor. The Chromecast should make things easier for people who don't want to bother with cords, not prevent people from using cords if they really want/need it.
- Nullabillity 6y agoChromecast was also their excuse for disabling Miracast back in the day.. :/
- theBashShell 6y agoFull spec here: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a
- IshKebab 6y agoNot "full" enough to give an answer to this question.
- jayd16 6y agoDisable? Does it come standard on the 730G?
- wccrawford 6y agohttps://www.androidpolice.com/2019/11/03/pixel-4-has-usb-video-output-disabled-in-software/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/11/03/pixel-4-has-usb-vid...
- duxup 6y agoI held on to an old 5x for what felt like forever until the 3a came around. I've zero interest in the high end phone market, I'm sort of horrified at 6, 7, $800+ the prices, and I feel like I use fewer and fewer apps all the time. Hopefully google with the 'a' models and Apple with the SE will stick with the mid range products.
- zerocrates 6y agoRelatively lucky of you to have a 5X that lasted that long: mine succumbed long ago to the "boot loop" issue, apparently due to soldering issues endemic among 5X phones.
- kvgr 6y agoIt was the best phone I ever had... until the boot loop.
- ryaan_anthony 6y agoi keep buying them new/old stock for $100 on ebay.. they last a year or more -- just a little slow sometimes. i have one more in my desk drawer and i might upgrade after that one.
- distances 6y agoWhy wouldn't you just get the 3a? It's dirt cheap by now. Not $100 cheap, but a very modern device in comparison.
- duxup 6y agoYeah I got lucky. Every update ... i wondered if it would fall into the loop... but got lucky.
- ehsankia 6y agoMine (which I had given to my dad) lasted until 8 months ago until it finally started boot looping. Put a bootloop fix on it (which disables a few cores I think?) and it lasted a few month months, but then he got a 3a XL.
- Wowfunhappy 6y agoAnd the Pixel 4A has a headphone jack! Hurray!
- lern_too_spel 6y agoAnd fingerprint sensor. They stupidly didn't announce whether the two upcoming phones will have those things, so people who want a better processor or 5g will just have to wait.
- tlholaday 6y ago> 3 years of updates ... Now we're talkin'.
- nfriedly 6y agoYep, that's basically the reason I bought my Pixel 2. I still think Apple has a better track record here, but 3 years is better than any other Android phone vendor that I'm aware of.
- allset_ 6y agoMy S8 just received a security update a couple weeks ago, which puts it at over 3 years of updates. It's stuck on Android 9 though.
- nfriedly 6y agoFair enough, and props to Samsung for that.
- vondro 6y agoMy Huawei P10 also received security update few weeks ago. It got 2 major Android updates (7 -> 8 -> 9) and while the last update was probably the last, it got more than 3 years of SW support (released March 2017). I really think Google could do better. Sure, you don't have to wait long for new Android version as with other manufacturers (e.g. Huawei), but 3 years is nothing to applaud Google for.
- neuronexmachina 6y agoAll Pixel phones have at least 3 years of Android version and security updates: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705
- foepys 6y agoThe problem with that is, that Google will drop it exactly when those 3 years are over. 3 years isn't very long, especially if you don't buy at release. Some other manufacturers actually provide quarterly updates after those 3 years but are more inconsistent with delivering monthly updates.
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- daliusd 6y agoStill no gorilla glass what makes this device useless without cover. EDIT: OK. I'm wrong. It actually has old Gorilla Glass. I hope that will make this phone way better than Pixel 3a which was completely disappointment because of poor glass choice (e.g. here is example of users experience https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/9205039?hl=en https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/9205039?hl=en)
- dan1234 6y agoIt uses Gorilla Glass 3 https://store.google.com/product/pixel_4a_specs https://store.google.com/product/pixel_4a_specs
- luto 6y agoaccording to the store, this has "Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3 cover glass". https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a_specs https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a_specs
- sparrish 6y agoHas gorilla glass - https://www.theverge.com/21351770/google-pixel-4a-review-camera-specs-price https://www.theverge.com/21351770/google-pixel-4a-review-cam...
- d_silin 6y ago3.5mm audio jack - yay!
- abvdasker 6y agoFinally! A small phone with decent specs and a headphone jack is really all I want these days (and is almost extinct as far as phone design goes). The Pixel 4a seems like a possible alternative to the S10e, which up until now was the only game in town for high quality small-form-factor smartphones.
- dumb1224 6y ago+1 as I'm after smaller phones. It's a rarity these days.
- coldpie 6y agoI think it's still way too big. I'd really like a decent phone with a height under 5 inches. At 4.8 inches tall, the Incredible 4G LTE from 2012 remains my favorite phone. The 4A is at least smaller than the 3A (my current phone), so at least they've moved a tiny bit in the right direction.
- robotmay 6y agoI have an S8 Edge which is narrower than these current phones, and even that I find too big. The previous generation iPhone SE was really the last phone that I didn't involuntarily drop on my face when trying to operate it whilst lying down.
- bscphil 6y agoGiven that we're barely 5 years from a 5.8 inch phone being one of the largest phones on the market, I think it's still too early to call it a "small phone". It's certainly not what most people who say they want a "small phone" on this forum are looking for.
- mikelward 6y agoIf you're holding out for a smaller phone, the rumored 5.4" iPhone 12 should be noticeably smaller than any Pixel. Pixel 4a: 144 x 69.4 mm iPhone 12 5.4": 131 x 64 mm https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_4a-ampp-10123.php https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_4a-... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2020/06/18/apple-iphone-12-design-display-size-price-release-upgrade-iphone-11-pro-max/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkell...
- rllin 6y agoanybody know if 5g is worth waiting for?
- nfriedly 6y agoNot unless data caps go up. 4G is already fast enough to burn through my monthly data cap in under 10 minutes.
- majora2007 6y agoI personally don't buy the 5G hype. Yeah the spec is amazing and I've seen the demos showing how great it can be, but you need nodes everywhere, like every 10m or something. Given the frequency, it has poor penetration, so you'd need tons of nodes + it might not penetrate your house/building without additional nodes in your house. Hence, I don't see it being as great as they say without years more of investment.
- nfriedly 6y agoIt's too late to edit my previous comment, but I did think of one thing to add: 5G allows for more efficient use of spectrum, which benefits everyone. (Although, it benefits the carriers the most.) So, while I don't think it's worth waiting for, I do think it is a good thing overall.
- ShamelessC 6y agoI don't think anyone was disputing that.
- robotmay 6y agoBit confused as to why mtgx's comment has been voted into oblivion, as it's a legitimate complaint with the Pixel line. My girlfriend has a 3a and it has taken about 3 months for the battery life to start being a minor issue; i.e. she makes sure to charge it during the day if she has somewhere to be in the evening. It's really the only complaint I have about an otherwise good phone, and it doesn't look like the 4a really addresses it. It appears Google is looking for a software solution to battery life, which I don't disagree with, but that whole approach is basically pointless if someone happens to install Facebook on their phone. On the positive side, the 3a has a great camera and it looks like the 4a is continuing that. I've been particularly impressed by the 3a's low-light capabilities, such as taking good photos indoors, and it's especially good considering its price.
- asah 6y agoZoom is my cellphone's battery killer.
- zem 6y agokills my laptop battery too
- raziel2p 6y agoMaybe it's anecdotal? I've had my 3a for a year and the battery feels just as good as when it was new, I only have to charge it every other day.
- robotmay 6y agoI suspect it does vary quite a lot based on usage. We live in a fairly cold place (Wales) and my girlfriend's phones tend to suffer more than mine do, as she spends a few hours in an exposed place most days. Towards the end of its life her iPhone SE was suffering from some truly impressive battery woes when she ventured outside. My current phone (an S8 Edge) is doing relatively fine by comparison, but my last Nexus device really struggled here too and I ended up with poor battery life within a few months. The problem I have with the software approach to battery optimisation is that it doesn't accomodate for environmental issues like that, whereas a bigger battery does.
- untog 6y agoThe Pixel “a” devices and the new iPhone SE are really great news. Until recently it seemed you had to choose between a $1000 flagship phone and a $200 piece of garbage. I’m really happy to see a sensible middle ground developing at last.
- nerdbaggy 6y agoThis almost puts it in the price point of an iPod touch. There are so many business options with devices like iPod touches but I have yet to find similar for Android.
- draw_down 6y agoSomehow Apple is able to build these pages in a way that doesn't feel so janky like this does. I have no idea what the technical differences are.
- PossiblyKyle 6y agoOne of the biggest reasons I'm happy with the increasing competition in the budget segments is that they're starting to make the 'right' sacrifices, slightly negating the distinctive features and advantages of flagship phones. Flagship phones will either have to adapt (introducing more useful features and not extra camera-bloat), or people will just keep buying the cheaper ones.
- TremendousJudge 6y ago350 dollars is "budget"?
- KerrickStaley 6y agoYes. The Pixel 4's launch price was $800 for the basic configuration, the S10 launched at $900, and the iPhone 11 (which is actually more mid-range in Apple's lineup than "flagship") launched at $700.
- Krasnol 6y agoOnly because there are more expensive phones and where the high price is even part of the marketing, doesn't make that one "budget". There are also many cheaper phones. China is full of them.
- acdha 6y agoFor something most people use many times a day with a multi-year lifespan? There’s a fascinating economics lesson in how many people are concerned by the cost of a phone but never mention the service plans which almost always cost more.
- nordsieck 6y ago> There’s a fascinating economics lesson in how many people are concerned by the cost of a phone but never mention the service plans which almost always cost more. This is the reason why "free phone" plans are so popular. IMO, it's always lower TCO to unbundle these "deals", but so many people only care about their maximum monthly cost.
- malkia 6y agoHas Audio Jack! (Comparison with other Pixel 4's) - https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pixel+4+XL&toggler2=Pixel+4a https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pix...
- partiallypro 6y agoThe 3A also has an audio jack. I frankly never use it, and sort of wish it weren't there. I wish they would maybe ship it with a thing you can put in the hole that closes it up to make it seamless, but can be removed.
- edoceo 6y agoFlex Seal?
- davidmurdoch 6y agoAnd I'm over here wishing I could pay an extra $350 to get a Pixel 5 with a headphone jack. To me, the Pixel 4a is pretty much a headphone jack with a free low-powered smartphone attached. Haha.
- golem14 6y agoYou mean, like those things ? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0832JRZZK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0832JRZZK
- partiallypro 6y agoI'd prefer one made by Google that just matches the phone and the curvature of the end. I don't know why I was downvoted...but some people don't need the headphone jack, but still want a reasonably priced phone. A simple fix is to just sell a plug that matches the phone.
- rowanG077 6y agoIt's really quite simple to make yourself. Just put some epoxy in there and shape it to the Phone.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoIs it just me, or does every single photo supposedly demonstrating the quality of the camera have awful artifacts? (I'm not saying this means it has a poor quality camera, I suspect that whatever process prepared these photos for the website cranked up the JPEG compression or something.)
- simlevesque 6y agoIt's not you, now that you told me they are in every of the photos, that's weird.
- csours 6y agoI can only hope they will revisit face unlock in the era of face masks. I greatly prefered fingerprint unlock. I treat either of these as tamper resistance rather than actual security, but I find fingerprint unlock to be a much better experience.
- QuercusMax 6y agoAgreed; I don't see face unlock significantly more convenient in than fingerprint unlock. I guess it's a little more automatic, but I find I have to wiggle my phone around any way in order to get it to recognize my face. In practice, I end up having to spend the same amount of time making faces at my phone as I did touching the fingerprint sensor. Even before face-masks, I found that my Pixel 4 can't recognize me with a bike helmet on. I have a phone mount on my handlebars and fingerprint-unlocking is very convenient (not while moving, obviously). Also if I'm driving, I can hand the phone to my wife and finger-unlock it without looking away from the road, which is definitely not possible with a face-unlock.
- savanpatel 6y agoThat's why buy an iPhone.
- partiallypro 6y agoI also am not a fan of facial unlock, I would much rather have a finger print reader like previous models. Though I will say if my hands are sweaty it doesn't work, which is a bit annoying.
- xxpor 6y agoThis is why I have both the fingerprint AND face unlock on on my phone :) The combo of the two covers 99% of cases IME.
- mholt 6y agoFingerprint unlock never worked for me (on any of my devices) because as a rock climber my fingerprints rub off. For about 2 years I could never get any fingerprint readers to work for more than a few days. So I had to get a Pixel 4 because it has Face Unlock, which works almost too well to be honest.
- ramanujank 6y agoSensible design choices. Stock Android. Pocket friendly. Such a clean offer. I'm amazed.
- coreyoconnor 6y agoLooks like this one has edges that are easy to grip. Samsung phones should take note ;)
- axegon_ 6y agoI'm still rocking a Pixel 2 xl and despite Google being a bit... Uninterested(probably the correct term) in the market outside the US(and thus severely limited in supply and even functionalities), I'll admit, it's a brilliant phone. I'm definitely curious to see what the 5 will offer and I might jump on board with it.What bothers me is that it was a pain in the ass to get the 2 XL back in the day. I flew all the way to Poland to get it(and even there I had to order it and wait for the delivery) so the covid-19 situation will probably be even more painful. I'll have to wait and see I suppose.
- halfeatenpie 6y agoSimilar boat as you. I bought the Pixel 2 XL and am still rocking it to this day. I just happen to be living in the States. I think I'll be going for the 5, but the 4a does give me a pause. If I use it for another 3 years, I think buying the 5 is the better choice.
- foobarian 6y agoStill using the Nexus 6P :) Had to replace the battery once which gave it an extra couple of years of life. I was reluctant to replace it with a newer flagship because of the price (getting close to $1k) but the 4a price is looking very tempting now...
- TheTruestKyle 6y agoI bought a pixel 3 a while back and the USB C port stopped working. They refused to fix it so I was making payments on a phone that I couldn't use. Never again (At least through the google store).
- rodnim 6y agoSadly enough, still only available in a few countries. :(
- hocuspocus 6y agoAnd not even at the same time: > Australia (September 10), Canada (September 10), France (September 10), Germany, India (October), Ireland, Italy, Japan (August 20), Singapore, Spain, Taiwan, United Kingdom, and United States. Ten years after the first Nexus, Google still doesn't know how to sell hardware.
- kazen44 6y agoThis is something that suprised me with apple. Apple has the physical aspect and support done very well. My SO's iphone broke and it needed some parts replaced. Instead of having some online warranty drama, apple just changes out the device in the store.
- kazen44 6y agoThis is something that suprised me with apple. Apple has the physical aspect and support done very well. My SO's iphone broke and it needed some parts replaced. Instead of having some online warranty dram
- xxpor 6y ago6 GB of RAM and 128 GB of storage are both better than my top of the line Pixel 3 from just 2 years ago, so that's good to see. The 730G kind of scares me though, how good is it compared to the top of the line? Are we talking unusably slow? The Pixel 3 issues seemed to be mostly RAM related, not CPU related, so maybe this combo of slower CPU and more RAM would still be faster.
- neogodless 6y agohttps://www.notebookcheck.net/SD-730G-vs-SD-845_11555_9958.247596.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/SD-730G-vs-SD-845_11555_9958.2... Take any benchmarks with a grain of salt, of course, but it appears the 845 is only about 10% faster than the 730G on average. Still that double memory bandwidth certainly affects perceived performance a bit.
- xxpor 6y agoYeah, I always have trouble interpreting synthetic benchmarks on a phone. Obviously it's easy to see X has a score 10% higher than Y, but how does that translate to real world performance? If I'm running Google Maps nav, and then try to open Pocket Casts, will that happen immediately or will I be sitting there for 30 seconds while Android figures out what other app to OOM kill (This was a frequent problem with my Pixel 3, and it made me swear off the Pixel line even though I love the stock Android experience).
- meddlepal 6y agoI gave up waiting for this phone two months ago and bought an iPhone 11. Bleh.
- spuz 6y agoWhat improvements does the 4a have over the 3a?
- trulyrandom 6y agoCan vouch for the Pixel line. I've had a Pixel 3a XL for a little over a year and it's been great. Stock Android, good display, great battery life, great camera, great security, reasonably fast and 3 years of updates. That's all I need from a phone. The Pixel 4a seems like a logical upgrade from the previous generation, sticking to the same principles.
- pottertheotter 6y agoOnly 3 years of updates? I've had some version of an iPhone since the 3 and have considered giving Android a go, but that's a big downside if true.
- trulyrandom 6y agoComing from iOS, I can imagine that being a disappointment. 3 years of updates is a relatively new trend in the Android world. I used to complain about this as well, but now that it's 3 years, that's about when I usually buy a new phone anyway. See: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705.
- emn13 6y agoOnly anecdotally, but old iphones (more than 3 years old, such as in my case the original iphone SE) have poor enough battery life expectancy that I'm not sure I'd call longevity a big win for iOS.
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- coreyoconnor 6y agoIs there a press release that doesn't use a ridiculously overused scroll visualization?
- cbg0 6y agoSeems interesting if you want a reasonably sized phone with less bloatware, but for 30$ more the Galaxy A71 seems like a better deal, here's a comparison: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9995&idPhone2=10123#diff- https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9995&idPhone2... > 4500 mAh vs 3140 mAh on the Pixel > microSD card slot vs no card slot on Pixel > The A71 has more cameras > 2 extra GBs of RAM on the A71
- nfriedly 6y agoThe catch is that you'll be lucky to get a full year of software updates for the A71. Google committed to 3 years for the Pixel line. On a hardware-level, though, I agree, the A71 is a much better value.
- ehsankia 6y agoEven then, the number of cameras doesn't mean much, Pixel 4a still takes better photos than most 800$+ phones with 3-4 lenses. Also, it really depends on your use case, but most people don't need extra storage with 128GB base storage.
- nfriedly 6y agoNot sure if you meant to reply to me, but I agree with you about the cameras. Not sure I just about the storage, though. I have a Pixel 2 with 128 gigs, and I occasionally find myself having to go through and delete some things to make room for whatever new thing I want. If they're not going to include a micro SD slot (which I would prefer), then they really do need to put a generous amount of flash on the device.
- ehsankia 6y agoIt was mostly a reply to: > On a hardware-level, though, I agree, the A71 is a much better value. Just because it has better hardware "specs" doesn't mean much. For example, there are phones nowadays with 112MP cameras that still take worse photos than Pixel's 12MP camera. Similarly, 12 or 16GB ram which a lot of phones flaunt makes absolutely no difference. I'm not saying you're falling for that, but unfortunately a lot of people do direct spec sheet hardware comparisons without understanding what the numbers even mean.
- exabrial 6y agoHoly crap! Headphone jack!!! YES!
- pedrocr 6y agoAs usual this link shows me a Chromecast with no explanation. It's already strange how they segment by geography within the EU but breaking the links like this instead of just saying it's unavailable in your location is broken. I'm currently looking for a phone and the Moto G Pro is easily available, an Android One device so gets proper updates for a long time as well and seems to have very comparable specs for less money.
- droidno9 6y agoThis is an awesome phone at $350. I currently have the Pixel 4, but if this was available when I was making my purchase decision, I'd probably have gone with it. That said, the Pixel line of phones isn't known for having long lasting battery. A feature that I've found to be indispensable is wireless charging. I just rest my Pixel 4 on a vertical charging base throughout the day. Otherwise, I'd have to have to constantly plug/unplug the phone throughout the day to charge, and that'd be a huge regression in the user experience. Just as I'm about 100% fully committed to Bluetooth headsets and my collection is just about fully covering all my use cases, Google brings back the 3.5mm jack! Nice that they're giving me hope that I can still use my wired headsets without having to use a dongle, but I'd be again terribly disappointed if they removed this feature again in the next iteration. This feature alone is almost enough to downgrade my Pixel 4. P.S. The Pixel 4 isn't an available trade-in option for the Pixel 4a. Lol!
- jldugger 6y ago> That said, the Pixel line of phones isn't known for having long lasting battery. A feature that I've found to be indispensable is wireless charging. Note that wireless charging causes a lot of heat, which is like cryptonite for battery longevity.
- 101008 6y agoI bought a Pixel 3A a few months ago and my battery lasts 2 days without charging it. I use it for regular browsing, Instagram, twitter, and it is constantly using networks because I have Whatsapp always on on my computer.
- noelsusman 6y agoI've been wondering for years what the hell people were doing with their phones to make them run out of battery in a day. I can't remember the last time any phone I've had got below 50% on a day with normal usage. I guess people play a lot of mobile games?
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- mcjiggerlog 6y agoOf course it's $100 more in Europe (389 EUR = 456 USD). Still, very tempting.
- snappieT 6y agoIf it makes you feel any better, the $349 US price tag doesn't include sales tax, which adds on upwards of $25 depending on where you live.
- pkaye 6y agoI've heard the difference is due to more stringent warranty requirements compared to the US. Also the US doesn't include sales taxes in the price.
- JorgeGT 6y agoIt varies wildly: - Spain, Italy: 389€ - Germany: 340€ - France: 349€
- cakerace 6y agoApple's site is soooO much better at the effects
- grwthckrmstr 6y agoA simple phone that does well for its price. I can't help but think the 4a would have been perfect with a 4000mah battery.
- owenversteeg 6y agoNot a gripe for this phone specifically ($349 is a great price point!) but more for the smartphone industry at large: I'm disappointed in the lack of progress since Huawei introduced the first real telephoto lens on the P30 Pro. Sure, there's the cheap knockoffs from OPPO, and Huawei added a nicer sensor to the P40 Pro, but no real innovation. That's the big thing holding me (and many people) back from being able to completely let go of DSLRs. The P30 Pro is so close, it's a real revolution. But it's not quite good enough in many situations (autofocus is slow, any kind of action, low light is pretty bad.) Whatever company puts in a truly good quality, versatile telephoto lens... they'll have my money and a massive part of the DSLR market. I have a feeling that it's going to be either Huawei incrementally improving their telephoto lens, Google delivering a computational breakthrough (and everyone else using it), or Apple/Samsung making some intricate, complex hardware.
- saagarjha 6y agoAny idea what chip is going into the Pixel 5?
- distrill 6y agoWireless charging is pretty much a necessity for me at this point. It's not an expensive or bulky technology (I can get an adapter that fits under a case for $15), it really bothers me that they keep this feature gated behind the flagship price.
- vishnuharidas 6y agoActually, is wireless charger worth it? You still have to keep the phone on the charging pad, which is similar to keeping the phone connected to a charger cable. Next, I can easily hold and continue using the device when it is connected to the USB cable. But you can't do that when placed on a wireless charging pad, right? I will never call it "truly wireless charging" until it is a technology that charges my phone "wirelessly" many meters away from the wall socket, regardless I am using the phone in my bed or bathroom. The current method of "wireless charging" is not truly wireless, IMO.
- crazcarl 6y agoWireless charging for next to your bed makes it worth it. You just set it down on the charger and if you need to pick it up to answer a call you don't have to deal with the plug. And then when you're finished you just set it back down again without having to deal with the plug. Same for if you're working at a desk you can just set it down on the charger when you're not using it 95% of the time.
- usrusr 6y agoGoogle's handset portfolio is starting to get a bit messy. Ignoring any earlier but still available models you have a 4 in 64GB and 128GB versions, a 4a without a 64GB option, a 4a 5G that also differs from the regular 4a in some other specs, no 4 5G, an announced straight 5 and presumably everything in regular and XL versions that may or may not differ in other specs as well. Reminds me of how Motorola made people completely oblivious to new models because there were just too many of them. Hint: if you make it too hard for customers to feel well-informed about your devices all but the most casual buyers will simply avoid your brand.
- andybak 6y agoThe thing that finally made me jump ship to Macbooks about 10 years ago was the fact that I needed a week and a spreadsheet to choose a PC laptop.
- Krasnol 6y agoSo if the specification weren't important for you, why did you bother? I think it's quite nice to have the choice, upgradability, price range, etc.
- askafriend 6y ago> So if the specification weren't important for you That's not what OP said.
- Krasnol 6y agoI understood it that way. What did you understand?
- gknoy 6y agoMenu fatigue is real, I experienced it only a few weeks ago. PC laptops often differ just enough in things like build quality processor version, RAM amounts, screen quality that you are constantly trying to balance "best" or compare A vs B vs Q, and if you care a lot about maximizing value for your budget, you end up spending hours looking at reviews, benchmarks, etc. In contrast, with a Macbook, I know it's not perfect, but there's a clear differentiation of qualities (air, macbook, pro), and only a couple differences within those categories, so it's a lot easier to decide based on budget, or based on your needs.
- solarkraft 6y agoHere's a pretty enlightening video ny Dave2D about the strategy behind this uncommon Monday launch: https://youtu.be/oAy9EuBRCpg https://youtu.be/oAy9EuBRCpg TL;DW: They're positioning it directly against the Oneplus Nord. Personally I'm happy the Pocophone F1 finally has some competition in the quality-reasonably-priced segment. For Normies the 4a will probably be the best software-wise while I still consider the Pocophone a great device due to its repairability and large battery (good FOSS ROM support is important but luckily given on such popular devices).
- intsunny 6y agoIts a shame the Pixal 4A does not have an ultrawide camera. Of all the newfangled phone features, an ultrawide camera (with the software to back it) seems to be one of the new truly worth while features. I never understood nor cared for the feature until my job gave me a new phone with that had one. It would be quite the bummer to go back to having a phone without this feature. So many phone reviews drone on and on about the latest Snapdragon 2934838 chipset with its 2^N cores and 2^N GB of RAM. The vast majority of us simply don't care for the horsepower nonsense. We're not looking to run hadoop on top of k8s on our phones. The cameras are really where things matter.
- notyourday 6y ago> The vast majority of us simply don't care for the horsepower nonsense. Non-flagship Android phones are visibly slower in a responsiveness than flagships. So yes, people do care, otherwise they would not be buying flagships, saving gobs of money and accepting that sometimes it takes several seconds to open an app.
- ShamelessC 6y agoThe vast majority of us don't care for an ultrawide camera. Especially people shopping at a $350 price point. Unrelated, but what the hell is the obsession with cameras? Are you all constantly on vacation, bumping into celebrities and taking Instagram pictures of your food or whatever? I almost exclusively use my camera to take pictures of notes and other text that I need to reference later. Occasionally I need to share something noteworthy that's happening in real time with a friend but I don't need professional level photos for that. Besides, even if you have low quality photos you can "easily" upconvert them using one of the many available open source super resolution neural nets. I realize average people aren't going to know how to do that, and there's a convenience factor either way, but this community consists of fairly intelligent folks
- rattray 6y agoWhat does the "A" in 4A mean? Large? Small? Cheap? Fancy? The answer didn't appear in a skim of the first several paragraphs, and like many here I don't care enough to RTWFA
- mchusma 6y agoMy pixel 3a is by far the best phone I have ever owned (across both iOS and Android). Comparing the 4a to this it looks like a bunch of solid incremental improvements across the board. Huge fan of basically everything here. Price, screen size, phone size. Battery size could be a touch bigger, as my 3a has the best battery life I just wish for about 10% more for edge cases.
- dageshi 6y agoI'm a big fan of the material its made from, I think it looks really good but sticks to your hand like glue.
- 51Cards 6y agoI case all my phones anyhow so other than bend strength the material of the body is largely irrelevant to me.
- williamdclt 6y agoReally? When I got it, the only problem I found with my pixel 3a was that it was so slippery, I dropped it a couple times a day while it never happened with my Motorola. I bought a leather case specifically to give it more grip
- dageshi 6y agoNope, I can lay it on my hand and tilt it to about 25 degrees before it start to slip and even then only gradually. Compared to a lot of glass/metal backed phones it's vastly better.
- gpm 6y agoI second this, going slowly I can get to about 25 degrees from vertical before the 3a starts slipping when I make my hand flat along its back.
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- Shelnutt2 6y agoThe 4a is looking nice, especially at the price point and for a "stock" android experience. I've started looking for a replacement to my Essential PH-1 since my USB port is getting very loose, and charging is becoming difficult. I wonder if there will be a demand for people who got the PH-1 on fire sale? This price point to features is what we've been missing since the early nexus days. The 3a was a nice step in this direction, but this looks like a very solid competitor in this field.
- jedi_stannis 6y agoTry using a pin to clean the lint out of the USB port
- tridentlead 6y agoDon’t do this, use a plastic toothpick or you might damage the contacts.
- savanpatel 6y agoThe verge here doesn't know for sure that if the device on left in teaser is indeed pixel 5. It's just a speculation. Such misleading titles. The actual content differ. Media, bloggers should avoid these kind of immoral clickbaits. Sometimes these also have an adverse effect. For example a misleading title can lead to mob lynching. Verge should write responsibly.
- supernova87a 6y agoCan anyone comment on how well Google supports their phones 2, 3+ years out? What's their obsolescence history compared to Apple? Thinking of moving over...
- itodd 6y agoI have a Pixel 2XL and it is still supported. I am participating in the latest android beta without any known-to-me model-specific issues.
- thebruce87m 6y agoThey list it here: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en-GB https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en-G...
- supernova87a 6y agoThanks -- ah, so it is significantly less than Apple. 3 years guaranteed, versus 5+ years. (well, not that I'm likely to keep my phone for 5+ years)
- zanny 6y agoThe Pixel line sees almost ubiquitous Lineageos support.
- RivieraKid 6y agoI hope the screen is bright. I wanted to buy the Pixel 3a but the screen brightness is just 400cd/m3, the iPhone SE 2 has 650cd/m3.
- libpcap 6y agoAre these manufactured in the PRC?
- jungletime 6y agoNow with free unlimited geo tracking! So you don't get lost. With a bigger sensor so it can see you better in the night. And a more sensitive microphone so it can hear you better when you're whispering. All for $349.
- hourislate 6y agoThe Oneplus Nord is still a better phone for the same price. If you can wait for the 7T to drop in price when the new Oneplus is released this year you will get an incredible phone compared to the Pixel 4a at close to the same price. IMO Oneplus still makes the best Android phone at the best price/value point. Disregard the prices at gsmarena, they can be found for much less. https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9816&idPhone2=10123&idPhone3=10289 https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9816&idPhone2...
- brnt 6y agoBetter in what way? I buy Pixels for their camera (and LineageOS support).
- _ZeD_ 6y agoThe mute physical button
- deepsun 6y agoExcept that for any questions or disputes you should contact Shenzhen.
- SECProto 6y agoDoes the OnePlus Nord or 7T have a headphone jack? (No, they don't, and it's been a dealbreaker for me for several generations. That plus low price plus stock android is the attraction of the pixel 3a and 4a for me.) All that said, I'm happy using a Samsung phone - manufactured in Vietnam, has a headphone jack and sdcard slot, minimal bloatware, cheap.
- emn13 6y agoI'm kind of curious why the headphone matters? I was mildly annoyed when phones dropped the jack, but you know... get a set of bluetooth headphones, what's the problem? Frankly, not having to bother with the wires is simply a plus.
- amanzi 6y agoWhy can't Google sort out its global distribution? The Pixel phones have only ever been (officially) available in a handful of countries and this one is no different: "Australia, Canada, France, Germany, India (coming soon), Ireland, Italy, Japan, Singapore, Spain, Taiwan, United Kingdom, United States".
- murermader 6y agoEven in countries were Pixel phones are distributed, they are "hard" to get. Google is doing something wrong. I don't know anybody who owns a Pixel phone, despite Android market share being something like 70% here in Germany. It's all Samsung, OnePlus, Huawei, Oppo
- paxys 6y agoIt's crazy to me that despite working on it for more than a decade, devoting entire company divisions, buying multiple companies and more, Google just hasn't been able to crack the smartphone hardware game. Microsoft has been so much more successful with its Surface line in a fraction of the time.
- detaro 6y agoIn some European markets Microsoft even had a decent shot at the smartphone game with the Lumnias, but it didn't work out globally and they didn't double down on it in the key moments.
- hocuspocus 6y agoI think there are several reasons: - The pricing for their flagship models made absolutely no sense given the specs, poor battery life and questionable QA. - Samsung and the big Chinese manufacturers advertise everywhere, you can get their phones at the shop around the corner. At least now in Germany you can find the Pixels at Saturn and Mediamarkt (and often at a discount). - Most people don't care about software updates. They might notice the custom Samsung UI and be annoyed by pre-installed bloatware, but they won't know which version of Android the phone is running, let alone its latest security patch. Even a 200€ phone will get Google Play services updates and be able to install almost anything for 5+ years. So in the end, you see Pixels in the US where Google does advertise them a bit, and also because there are still a lot of people who get subsidized phones from their carriers (or Google Fi for that matter). But yeah in Europe... I do remember people getting the Nexus 4, 5, the 5X once it got cheaper. But the Pixel 1/2/3/4, not so much. The 3a has probably done better lately as resellers tried to get rid of their stock, I think I've seen it sold as low as 239€. I think it's good if Google goes back to mid-range models. I don't think they'll ever be able to make a good flagship. But I really wonder why they aren't trying harder (or at all, in most countries). For now Android One phones are lagging behind in the camera department, but I cannot believe it'll be the case forever. Once Nokia has caught up, what's going to be left to overpriced Pixels?
- alexeiz 6y agoFinally, a Google Pixel phone with a competitive price. All previous Pixel phones were seriously overpriced.
- throw7 6y agoI wish they brought back original quality photo uploads. I guess I could understand dropping that in the "A" series, but for the flagships, it really set the pixels apart.
- jamesponddotco 6y agoI want to replace my current OnePlus 5T, as I want to switch from my custom LineageOS build to GrapheneOS[1], and thought the Pixel 4a would be the one to replace it with, but why only one color option? I really wanted a black, and white version. The regular Pixel 4 does have a black, and white version that looks gorgeous from the back, but then the front design is an abomination, with the top being much bigger than the bottom. Maybe I should just stick with LineageOS, I do not put sensitive information on my phone anyway. [1] https://grapheneos.org/ https://grapheneos.org/
- Tarq0n 6y agoOnePlus Nord seems like a nice replacement for a 5t. I'm looking to replace mine as well.
- jamesponddotco 6y agoGrapheneOS only run on Pixel devices, though, hence me looking at the Pixel line. Otherwise, yeah, OnePlus all the way.
- tims33 6y agoThe 4A branding is only something a tech company would come up with. Obviously its a lower cost model, but there is something magically less appealing about that 'A' designation.
- mherdeg 6y agoThis is great. My Pixel 3 XL has broken Bluetooth/wifi connectivity (even after a factory reset, "Bluetooth keeps stopping"). And it only connects via USB-C for headphone or charging some of the time in a specific orientation (even after cleaning out the charging port with a paperclip and flashlight). The device is just out of warranty but within credit-card extended warranty so I'm thinking of rolling the dice on the $481 Google Store-mediated repair process and hoping they fill out a form that Amex provides. (Risk is that, after this problem showed up, I also dropped it and got a cracked screen, so Amex might not be on board with also reimbursing screen-crack repairs.) Aside from not having reliable Wifi, Bluetooth, or USB-C connectivity I've been very happy with the Pixel and looking forward to using a 4A while I wait to see what happens with repairs on the 3XL.
- mancerayder 6y agoAre they bringing back fingerprint unlock or are we stuck with the annoying face thing?
- ckrailo 6y agoI broke the shopping cart by adding two pixel 4a devices + care plans, 1 with a trade-in. Now going to store.google.com/cart returns 500 errors (Error code: TIMM) and support is non-existent. Store chat and phone support look like they don't exist. Off to a great start!
- marklar423 6y agoI had this exact issue - try switching your country to something else, and then back to your country again. This fixed it for me
- ckrailo 6y agoBig thank you! Fixed for me too!
- gpm 6y agoI'm not sure about pre purchase, but I can vouch for reasonable good post purchase support with the pixel 3a. We had a warranty claim, we were able to talk to a real human apparently capable of going off script to diagnose issues. There existed a reasonable system of getting a loaner phone to use while the primary phone was returned for service. S&H was a bit slow (presumably because of covid) but things worked out reasonably.
- pletsch 6y ago+1 for Google Support post-purchase. I had the Pixel 3 and there's a feature to just text support from your phone, and they can send a phone in advance if you don't have a loaner/it can still function. The problem I do have is their QC, I went through three Pixels in less than a year and I had an original Pixel for less than 4 months before having to replace it. Hit the point where I did one last RMA to sell and picked up an iPhone.
- owl57 6y ago> I broke the shopping cart Google is careful in preserving fragile cart experience for those of us who avoid offline stores this year.
- actuator 6y agoI love my Pixel 2 and as it is still going strong I don't have any reason to upgrade it other than the battery not lasting 24 hours now though with decent usage. Since Pixel 2 was the best phone across any OS I have used, I will probably stick with the Pixel line. I don't think I will upgrade this year but hopefully Pixel 5 has good flagship features and is not underwhelming like Pixel 4.
- abrowne 6y agoPleasantly surprised on the size (144 × 70 × 8.2 mm): really only larger in one dimension from the Nokia 1, the size of which I love (134 × 68 × 9.5 mm).
- TheAdamist 6y agoI'll have to wait and see if at&t will allow VoLTE on the 4a, with their 3g shutdown announcement its a brick if it doesnt make it onto the allow list.
- amyjess 6y agoJust pulled the trigger on a Pixel 4a. Perfect dimensions, plastic body, headphone jack, yes! It'll make a nice replacement for my Moto X4.
- nicc 6y agoLink to actual page: https://store.google.com/us/?hl=en-US®ionRedirect=true https://store.google.com/us/?hl=en-US®ionRedirect=true
- sf_rob 6y ago>The camera and its clean version of Android are the main ways that Google is aiming to differentiate the Pixel 4A from the likes of the OnePlus Nord, Samsung Galaxy S71, and iPhone SE. I think it's weird to include the SE on that list. iOS seems like a great choice for a "clean" OS and the SE's camera, while not the highest end or with several sensors, is pretty great. A better emphasis would be storage and RAM which is pretty incredible and the inclusion of a headphone jack.
- dnr 6y agoI'm somewhat happy with my Pixel 3a, but the aspect ratio is pretty annoying: it's too tall and too narrow, making it really hard to use one-handed (my thumb can't reach that high while I'm gripping it in my palm). It looks like the 4a is similar. I wish they'd go back to the Pixel 1 dimensions, which were pretty perfect.
- ggm 6y agoDoes eSIM and nano SIM work at the same time in Google phones android yet? According to web search, prior to this unit, no. It does on iPhone, so you effective dualSIM from the technology mix. Ubiquitous dualSIM would stop me needing to carry a second phone when work travel overseas resumes (we don't all get to buy FI worldwide). Motorola dualSIM has been a lifesaver for me
- zanny 6y agoI've been in the market for a phone all year but pretty much everything is a compromise. Its hard when you want expandable storage, something with a feasibly replaceable battery two years out, a good screen, a good camera, and the ability to keep using the device after two years via Lineageos. The Zenfone 7 is the last major announcement this year for me to consider because otherwise its a compromise on one of those axis. Phones kinda suck.
- sf_sugar_daddy 6y agoThe latest in spyware hits the market!
- agoldis 6y agoHow would Google engineers with all the crazy interviews and RSUs explain 500 error and country switch hack
- tootie 6y agoNo Soli? Did they give up on it already?
- andrepd 6y agoStill not the compact phone I was looking for.
- Jedd 6y agoAs an Australian with a Pixel XL which is still perfectly usable, just lacking 'support': > ... it’s fascinating that the most important detail is the price: $349. Local pricing on google store is A$599, despite US$349 ~= A$490. So not quite the same bargain for us, though not hugely surprising. > ... it’s worth remembering that technically, fall ends on December 21st this year. Living in a country with only a dozen or so native (only only mildly) deciduous trees, but a surfeit of eucalyptus that drop dangerously large branches, leaves, and bark all year long -- we don't call autumn fall, just autumn. And it runs 1st March to 31st May. Which adds some mental gymnastics on top of the corporate hermeneutics when dealing with these announcements.
- mikelward 6y agoDon't forget that US prices don't include sales tax. Where I am, sales tax adds another 9%, so about 380 USD.
- TheSpiceIsLife 6y agoI'm in Tasmania, so that gave me quite the giggle. Yeah, well, Australian vendors are all trying to pay down their Toyota Prados and their seven rental property... so, fair go eh. On a more serious note, where can I get the Pixel A4 locally? I check a couple online stores yesterday but didn't see it yet.
- mikelward 6y agoJB and Google Store both have it. JB says the release date is September 10. https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/google-pixel-4a-128gb-just-black https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/google-pixel-4a-128gb-jus... https://store.google.com.au/product/pixel_4a https://store.google.com.au/product/pixel_4a
- TheSpiceIsLife 6y agoThanks mate! Partners Oppo digitiser is on the fritz. Probably get it fixed and keep as back up device and get a Pixel A4.
- jMyles 6y agoHave no other phones adopted the Librem 5's hardware kill switches for mic and camera and radio? Every time there's a new phone announcement, I hope.
- ksec 6y agoThe Pixel 4A comes with an USB-C to USB-C cable that is only capable of USB 2.0 speed. USB-C Supporters have been saying all the crappy USB 2.0 USB C cable are fake or counterfeit cables from Alibaba. Now we have one, officially from Google.
- aloknnikhil 6y agoIf that's indeed true, it'd be faster to transfer over Wi-Fi. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- eertami 6y agoHow frequently are most users really plugging a phone into their PC for data transfers?
- etaioinshrdlu 6y agoIf I'm not mistaken, the macbook charging cables from Apple are also limited to 2.0 speed. (They sell a separate cable for actual data transfer.)
- tonymet 6y agoA phone that real people want * audio jack * affordable * fingerprint reader * lightweight * good performance * great camera How about we just stop bloating software and make sure this phone lasts for 5 years?
- aagha 6y agoInterestingly, the 3a is selling for $399, $50 more than the 4a. [0] Also, the 4a doesn't have Fast Charging like the 3a. 0 - https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pixel+4+XL&toggler2=Pixel+4a&toggler1=Pixel+3a https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pix...
- fakename 6y agoThe 3a is discontinued. Also, the 4a lists fast-charging on the product page: https://store.google.com/product/pixel_4a https://store.google.com/product/pixel_4a
- basedtho 6y agoFor me smartphones died with the iPhone SE (2015). The last smartphone with sensible dimensions
- paultopia 6y agoCan someone explain to me what the user benefit of 5G is? Is there anything that people typically do on their phones/with tethering right now that LTE is insufficient bandwidth for? Or is this just a plan by the carriers to encourage more really expensive usage, like convincing people to stream on their phones/tether all the time?
- thomspoon 6y agoLower latency, easier to place cells in public places due to a broader range of frequencies, better bandwidth. The lower latency part is what’s going to enable edge computing for AR/VR, autonomous driving (separate via V2V but related), and other functions that need low latency. Cell phones are just a bonus. Also, a lot of telecoms are kind of ignoring 4g/lte deadspots in favor of just putting new NSA 5G cells it seems. I’m excited, but I’m also biased because I work in the industry.
- PhantomGremlin 6y agoa lot of telecoms are kind of ignoring 4g/lte deadspots in favor of just putting new NSA 5G cells That just emphasizes what marketing bullshit 5G is. Telecoms won't properly build out infrastructure to avoid LTE deadspots, and yet are pushing 5G. But ... people say that proper 5G needs many many more cells than LTE!
- ac29 6y ago> Telecoms won't properly build out infrastructure to avoid LTE deadspots, and yet are pushing 5G Its not entirely irrational - if your customers spend 99% of their time in some given area, it could make sense to improve capacity in those areas instead of chasing that last 1% of coverage.
- baby 6y agoThis is why this industry should be nationalized
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- a5withtrrs 6y agoFingerprint reader? Yes! Great. Audio Jack? Also yes!? Amazing! Turns out faceID doesn't work great with people wearing face masks in these COVID times. And people like me still like to use headphone jacks to connect to things like car audio systems etc. If the 5 and 4A 5G come out with those features, I'll be first in line for one!
- nautilus12 6y agoBut...where is the pixel watch?
- maxpert 6y agoJust bought my wife a Oneplus 8 because there were no decent phones in US at that time. Now looking at 4a I am like ️ I should have convinced her to wait a little more.
- daleharvey 6y agoI loved my Pixel 4, it was a really good phone albiet very expensive (£669). I went out for a run one day and it rained my phone got slightly damp in my pocket, never booted again and Google Support offered to repair it for ~£500. Hard to consider spending that amount on a phone again.
- tiagobraw 6y agoI had issues with my pixel 2 and pixel 3, both of them were poorly handled by Google support... I was a terrible critic of apple but now I own an iPhone just because I am fairly certain that I will be better treated if something happens and there's an actual physical store. I just don't trust Google hardware anymore.
- daleharvey 6y agoBefore my pixel 4 I had a pixel 3, its camera started started being extremely jittery, especially during videos. I reported it to the Google support and they replaced it new reasonably quickly, was quite happy with that interaction. After my pixel 4 debacle I tried getting second hand pixel 3's as a cheaper alternative, I got 2 devices with the exact same issue with the jittery camera, they were returned straight away but I find it amazing that I have personally had 3 pixel 3 devices with the same camera hardware bug. I cant bring myself to buy an iPhone, as a web developer having a decent browser is table stakes for me. But I have also lost all trust in Google hardware / support.
- abhiminator 6y agoI like how Google is upping the ante by dropping Pixel 4A a day before OnePlus's mid-ranged 'Nord' goes on sale.
- drawfloat 6y agoI loved my 3A when I got it. Great camera, decent specs, not a gamer (still not convinced anyone is a heavy phone gamer) so it was just an absolute steal. But a year and a bit later, the software is already starting to slow down even with a reset (switching to video from photo incurs a good 5-10 second delay, opening the camera itself takes a few seconds), and the volume rocker on the side snapped when I was just turning down Spotify. The "it's a bargain!" selling point is less of a thing in Europe, where they do some currency conversion fiddling. And the poor sales means aftercare is awful - my screen cracked a few weeks ago and I have to go to a third party, looking at 180euro. Coupled with Google's terrible implementation of work accounts (want to just join a Meet on your work email? Wait while we set up an entire work profile, download the requirements etc. Oh but, by the way, the calendar app doesn't have any way to view your work profile events) and I'm less enthusiastic this time around, sadly.
- sciurus 6y ago> But a year and a bit later, the software is already starting to slow down even with a reset (switching to video from photo incurs a good 5-10 second delay, opening the camera itself takes a few seconds) FWIW that's really not normal. Sounds like I got my pixel 3a around the same time as you, and I haven't had any problems like that. I wonder if you have a hardware defect of some sort. > Coupled with Google's terrible implementation of work accounts What's special about work accounts? I added both my personal and work Google accounts without any issues and can see events from both in my calendar, switch between them in google drive, etc.
- drawfloat 6y agoI think it's just a bug prone implementation. For example, I see exactly what I imagine you can see in Gmail etc where it's possible to switch between work and personal. In calendar? Nothing. I agree the camera thing does not sound normal, but again if it's a defect it does speak further to the "can tell the build quality was lower already" comment
- quoyn 6y agoIs the bootloader still going to be unlocked so we can expect (and pray to devs) lineage for these?