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cheese_goddess
4y ago
It would look about the same: https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets#more-plant-based-d... The article that I linked above looks at how much cropland we'd need to feed the entire world population if we gave up on fa
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cheese_goddess
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> Some grain by-products, such as maize husks, are unsuitable for human food. And feeding grain to animals does generate food for people indirectly, in the form of milk, meat and eggs. However, this process is highly wasteful. For every
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My point is that people who avoid entire food groups, or foods that have one particular nutrient usually have very strange reasons to do so, that border on the metaphysical and are routinely misguided. Like the carnivore diet, or the variou
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cheese_goddess
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> So the message is clear - shifting to a more plant-base diet is the single biggest way an individual can do to reduce their environmental impact. A "more plant-based diet" is not a vegan diet and no environmental organisation
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> Again, are you saying that Oxford Uni, IPCC, UN and many other credible organizations are lying? No, I'm saying they're not saying what you're saying they're saying. > Have you ever watched how actual chicken nug
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Will you listen to yourself speak for a moment? What you are saying is completely mad! We are "entirely ill-adapted to digesting plant material"? The majority of the food eaten by every human culture throughout history consisted o
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Unpasteurized Milk: A Continued Public Health Threat
(watermark.silverchair.com)
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> Or say chicken nuggets - the plant based alternative - pretty amazing and in blind tests most people couldn't tell. Because chicken nuggets are shit food and they don't even taste like chicken anyway. That's because they
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> How am I moving the goal post? For example, you want from being concern about killing, to being concerned about suffering, to being concerned about the environment, to arguing how healthy it is to eat a vegan diet, and now you're
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4y ago
Killing an animal for meat is not cruelty. We eat meat. It comes from animals. The alternative is to eat the meat while the animal is alive, which is how it is normally done in the natural world. That is cruelty. A cruelty that humans do no
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The Land Magazine – Manifesto
(thelandmagazine.org.uk)
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Fair enough. Sorry for overreacting.
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> FYI, the definition of suffering is: "to endure death, pain, or distress". So if you kill an animal, it will suffer. Really? According to whom? According to you who came up with it just now, so you can justify moving the goal
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> Why can't we fill our bellies with food that doesn't involve exploiting and killing other sentient animals? Nah, you're moving the goal posts just to get a chance to say your little propaganda slogan. What I asked was: &
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I don't understand what you're trying to say because the derision in your comment is taking up all the space that would normally be dedicated to clarity.
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cheese_goddess
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The way HN crops your link I thought it would lead to an article about the Irish potato famine .
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cheese_goddess
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We have a cecum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecum And we can digest plants just fine without having to ferment them. All those fantastical ideas about how the human body works, they keep cropping up in this kind of
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If you eat only potatoes you will only ingest the nutrients found in potatoes so you will risk becoming deficient in all other nutrients, not found in potatoes. I don't know what those are, but for example you'd risk running out o
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Yeah, maybe. That could be the reason, or an additional reason. I think if I had to eat only one kind of food that I really like (not cheese because there's such a huge variety that it wouldn't really count as "one") I c
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4y ago
I'm a kidney patient and no nephrologist, or any other health worker, has ever advised me not to eat potatoes. I'll tell you what they all advised me to drastically reduce: salt. How do you feel about salt consumption? Excess salt
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Anecdotally, that kind of thing sure works. Back in the day my aunt turned from plump and boring to thin and elegant in a couple of months by eating only chicken and rice. However, I think those diets only "work" because they make
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So you just shifted the goal posts, huh? First you cared about killing a sentient being, now you care about their suffering . And why is this any better? You only care about animal suffering because you are an animal who can suffer yoursel
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I don't get why you have to eat fake food when you're vegan? I cook and eat plenty of plants, in fact one of my favourite dishes is a cssserole with aubergines, potatoes, bell peppers, courgettes, and a sauce of tomato, garlic and
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It's nonsense is what it is. Do you think the steppe nomads ate "salt water fish and also sellfish"? The people who lived in mountains, in the center of Europe or Africa and far away from sea? Recorded history is 5000 years b
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Disgraced Italian surgeon convicted of criminal harm to stem cell patient
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What you say makes no sense. It makes no sense that "prior to modern prepackaged food", throughout the hundreds of thousands of years that anatomically modern humans have existed, we needed salt in our diet "badly". If w
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> Me & my wife have been supplementing from the start, several years now, and take regular blood tests. No problems what so ever. My doctor quipped that he've never seen such optimal blood test as mine is (all values in the opti
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> Most meat & dairy consumed on this planet comes from factory farms - that's why it's so 'cheap'. And those animals are pumped with antibiotics and they also get supplements, like B12. That's not right. What
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I never said anything about plants being "equally nourishing". I certainly believe that it is "justified" to kill another animal of a different species to eat its flesh. You can't eat an animal's flesh without
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> If there is any propaganda, it's of meat & dairy industry. Any connection, cheese queen? My handle is "cheese_goddess" and I'm an amateur cheesemaker, you puerile buffoon. > Western diet is linked to a lot
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