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cheese_goddess
4y ago
Wow, you have no honesty, do you? I didn't reply to this: > Plants are enough (again, don't forget your B12 vegan supplements). With this: > But malnutrition is scarier. I replied to this: > Plants are enough (again, don&
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cheese_goddess
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I saw your other comment. Here's some more links for you: Serum concentrations of vitamin B12 and folate in British male omnivores, vegetarians and vegans: results from a cross-sectional analysis of the EPIC-Oxford cohort study >
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
You quote a fast food company blog? I'll quote the Vegan Society: > Claimed sources of B12 that have been shown through direct studies of vegans to be inadequate include human gut bacteria, spirulina, dried nori, barley grass and mo
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
Yes, you didn't tell people not to eat meat "in both of your comments above" (nice hedge, I'll look at your comment history later) but you still only preach about eating less meat and not doing anything else to combat cl
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
> Guess what... animal feed is substituted with B12. > Meat eaters were also advised to take vitamin D. > Lots of foods are already fortified with these vitamins. Maybe where you live, but certainly not where I live, and where I
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4y ago
> See the graph. I saw the graph. You're using it wrong. > B12 is necessary vitamin. Most people get their B12 from animal-based foods. But animals do not produce B12, it just bioaccumulates in them. My argument is, that we can g
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
That's because like OP says "Substitution works best with meats that are typically a highly processed mess filled with salt & spices". See how Burger King and McDonalds are so eager to sell you plant burgers and plant nug
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
> That way they'll have vastly less money for advertising and lobbying. You think that people eat meat because of lobbying and advertisting from the meat industry? Like tobacco, or alcohol? Or gambling? Is that the idea?
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4y ago
> We cannot digest any plant. I am really dying to know what exactly you mean by that. Just yesterday I murdered a couple plates of spaghetti with a sauce with onions, garlic, baby tomatoes, tomato puree, and plenty of paprika, cayenne,
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
Great way to eat if you live in a rich country, or, dunno, California, I guess. Rather than saying "vegan", why not be honest and just say "Silicon Valley diet"? "Spirulina", "seaweed", "edamame&
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
Wow way to mislead with graphics! This is where your first plot comes from: https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local And it doesn't say that transport etc is a miniscule part in CO2 production. It says th
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
Eating less meat is not "more moral" it's just what you want people to do. It's always the same thing, when a post is about the environment the vegans come in and start telling everyone to stop eating meat to save the pl
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
> I'd love to eat plants a lot. Just turns out they give me depression.(takes about 4 days after ingestion) I mean no offense, and I'm no vegan (ha ha no), but it sounds like you need a therapist more than you need a butcher. T
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4y ago
People could choose to eat plants insted, but they'll also need to take supplements to avoid becoming malnourished, for example deficient in B12 vitamin. Feeding everyone a vegan diet and making sure that everyone is scrupulously wat
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
That's right that cow farts don't contribute anything to climate change. Some sources quote the methane cattle emit as if it was significant but it isn't because the environment can handle it. In truth, the emissions from far
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4y ago
> If nothing changes, the food sector will soon account for almost half of the world’s total emissions budget. And this is absolutely as it should be! Half of our carbon budget to hit 1.5 C is absolutely right to spend on food production
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
Thanks, I understand the experiment as described. But if you start by asking "what makes a pig optimistic", you're already assuming that a pig can be optimistic. Whatever reason you find after that to say that the pig is opti
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cheese_goddess
4y ago
> But what makes a pig optimistic? In 2010, researchers at Newcastle University showed that pigs reared in a pleasant, stimulating environment, with room to roam, plenty of straw, and “pig toys” to explore, show the optimistic response t
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4y ago
Here's a wikipedia article on Trafficking Children: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafficking_of_children Have fun trying to adhere to moral relativism while reading it.
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Parental alienation and the unregulated experts shattering children’s lives
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No, the main difference from the past is that we have been taking fossil fuels out of the earth and burning it for the last 200 years, and releasing in that very short time the CO₂ that has been stored in them for many millions of years. Th
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Because we're before the apocalypse?
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I think the answer is that if you don't, then there won't be people after "over thousands of years", or even after a few generations, anyway. I mean because this is after the apocalypse we're talking about, yes? Eit
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> I'm very confused by why you think this is sustainable - this type of life uses FAR FAR FAR more resources than modern living. Living in a society without heavy industry, without, electronics and without internal combusion engines
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cheese_goddess
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I have to be honest but when I'm thinking of post-apocalyptic scenarios and what I could do to survive, I'm thinking of my cheesemaking skills that I can use to preserve nutritious milk to keep my people fed. And I'm thinking
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You need tractors if you're farming for tens or hundreds of thousands of people. In which case it's probably not the apocalypse yet. As the OP says the knowledge of making enough food to keep yourself, your family and your probabl
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> That's what I get when I edit to add a word in later. 'Kindhearted' was intended to qualify 'immunization'. Fair enough. Sorry for reacting reflexively to your wording. > I would rather have a stray neutered
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That's just splitting hairs. The weights don't matter. What matters is that the EAs claim that their maths measure the morality of actions. It doesn't matter if they disagree over the parameters, what matters is that they agr
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I don't understand how neutering an animal is considered "kindhearted". The fact that this is such a common idea suggests to me that even people who believe they care about animals in truth treat animals as objects, without a
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> To play EA's advocate: if you assume that donating the kidney will "save" a life, then if you had 4,000 kidneys, you could, on average, sacrifice yourself to "save" 4,000 lives. No, see, this is what I mean whe
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