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- damsta 2mo agoDoes it have access to X API? One limitation in CC, Codex etc. is that they don't have access to X which sometimes has an answer not available via their search providers.
- no-name-here 2mo agoPricing: https://x.ai/bot https://x.ai/bot
- tonyhart7 2mo agoso like OpenClaw ???
- basisword 2mo agoLike a hosted OpenClaw with, I assume, more guardrails.
- 2PqboPPmKegvanx 2mo ago>with, I assume, more guardrails with Grok, that's a tremendous assumption
- javcasas 2mo agoIt will protect Elon and friends. Ah, you mean guardrails for _your_ protection...!
- basisword 2mo agoInteresting. Unfortunately Musk's personal brand is so poisonous that I would never let him anywhere near my data. I'm curious if big businesses will have similar concerns and avoid tools from SpaceXAI regardless of how they are? I guess lots are already using it by default since the Cursor acquisition.
- datadrivenangel 2mo agoCursor by inertia, but the X ownership is a big X against it...
- vizzier 2mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48892468 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48892468 plus the whole cursor brand should be tainted alongside it after this malarkey
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- tuesdaynight 2mo agoIf you have the time and are willing to do it, go check his Twitter profile. You can agree with him, but you will get it why some companies would avoid his products
- LaurensBER 2mo agoPricing: 120/200 USD per month, per employee. This is an interesting idea although I'm not sure how many companies are comfortable with giving SpaceXAI access to all your files and data. Outside of America this is, most likely, not going to fly.
- KumaBear 2mo agoThe US government maybe? Wish I could type /s
- jknoepfler 2mo agoSomehow the American AI industry managed to create a product I trust less than existing commercial offerings. Kudos, that is actually pretty impressive. Considering the stakes, one might also call it foolish. But I'm sure they've done their market research, they've identified their product niche and they're racing to meet it at the bottom.
- natsucks 2mo agoeveryone is shipping their in house solutions and they all seem...kinda the same.
- esafak 2mo agoThat's what everybody is excited about; being able to write whatever they want. They just say 'Make a clone of Foo' and hey presto! The next step is to share your fabulous creation with the world. Lo, and behold, it looks just like Foo!
- taoh 2mo agoMy feeling too. The foundation models and harnesses are commoditizing eventually because there's no stickiness nor algorithmic supersecrets.
- bakies 2mo agoRight... I've got this at home already
- myaccountonhn 2mo agoIt's funny because it can also just be recreated yourself extremely easily.
- redox99 2mo agoFor a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by...
- Manfrednotfunny 2mo agoyes because they are building things everyone is aware that it needs to be build. The differentiation, experimentation etc. comes after.
- dgellow 2mo agoAre you all comfortable with the idea of agents running non stop with access to all your accounts? I would be so anxious all the time, thinking they would leak or delete my personal data, or get hijacked via prompt injection or a security vulnerability. I just cannot imagine using such a software without overview
- sixtyj 2mo agoPrompt injection is my biggest fear. Imho it is almost impossible to make a sort of tool that would be successful in detecting an injection - but maybe some antivirus/antimalware producers work on it… The rest can be solved - separate account for agent spending (soon offered by your bank or neobank), separate email for agents (already exist) etc.
- shaism 2mo agoAccording to Boris Cherny from Anthropic [1], the threat of prompt injection has been largely solved. [1]: https://x.com/bcherny/status/2086520950259118464 https://x.com/bcherny/status/2086520950259118464
- samtp 2mo ago"largely solved" as in they the models they trained don't fall for prompt injections as often but not "largely solved" as in the underlying issue is solved at all.
- stymaar 2mo agoLargely solved in “it only happens 2% of the times now”. Don't worry, you only have a 2% chance of having you bank account drained any time an attacker tries their chance.
- ares623 2mo agoAnd each day a model remains unchanged, attackers get to test and experiment with how to make it tick. And every attack that works remains on the internet, forever, just waiting to be ingested as context. "We'll just stop training and we'll be profitable!"
- vorticalbox 2mo agoGitHub login on iOS is just broken. GitHub gives 404 after logging in so I can’t event try it.
- Adrig 2mo agoAlt link to the landing page if needed: https://x.ai/bot https://x.ai/bot Although I'll probably never use Grok, this is an interesting release. I always thought GPT work and Claude Cowork are a bit awkward in their positioning. I'm still not sure what the real difference is with standard chat. This looks like the same thing with seamless memory and skills creation. This seems like the middle ground between work mode and OpenClaw/Hermes (which I've never tried, too scared to mess something up). I think the humanization of the agents is cute and makes sense UX wise. I hope to see alternatives soon.
- jjcm 2mo agoI've been using it for the last month or so. IMO in the same way we went from tab complete -> prompts -> agents, this feels like a next step on that evolution. I highly suspect others will be following suit. I was surprised with how much it felt natural to interact with agents in this way. Biggest advantage is each one owns its own routines, context, and domain, and they can communicate between each other. Similar to hermes they build out their own skills, but by keeping the bots separated by domains, you end up getting better results out of them. Additionally though each one has their own computer, which means async work feels like it actually works. I haven't had to juggle worktrees for the last month. Biggest downsides are token expenditure. I've used more tokens this month than not this month. That's not a typo - I've used less tokens in the last 5 years prior to this month than I have this month. Always on perpetual agents use a LOT of tokens. IMO this is building for the future state where tokens are vastly cheaper, ie in a post-ASIC world. The coolest thing I had it do for me was sourcing fabric for swag: https://image.non.io/d83664c1-5807-4a18-abe4-41928c198410.webp https://image.non.io/d83664c1-5807-4a18-abe4-41928c198410.we... I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. First samples should be finished today. It's been something I've wanted to do for ages, so it was cool seeing it actually happen. The fabric supplier bot worked with one of my prototyper bots to create a randomly generated pattern using my logo, which it then sent as a .ai file to the supplier.
- pavel_lishin 2mo ago> I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. Isn't this one of the problems foreseen with this? For you, it was a single prompt - for 40 companies, this probably took up some time. What happens when fifty people fire off a 15-second "get me a shirt" prompt? When five hundred, five thousand, five million do?
- jjcm 2mo agoA reasonable pushback. It originally only reached out to 5, didnt hear back, so reached out to 5 more. I personally pushed it to reach out to an additional 30 after that. One of the difficulties of sourcing this is a lot of the suppliers in vietnam are only contactable via whatsapp. Emails are monitored far less. It's one of the reasons I haven't been successful with this in the past despite trying - it's a very word-of-mouth network.
- wiradikusuma 2mo agoFrom FAQ: How is Grok Bot different from AI assistants? Bots have their own computer, so they can work inside your apps and tools. They also run in parallel, 24/7, even when your laptop is closed. How does it work with login-walled sites like LinkedIn then? And what does "own computer" mean? X provisions a "private cloud" a'la Apple for your Bot?
- VariousPrograms 2mo agoThe very first thing in their demo shows Grok logging in with the user's username and password to a website, presumably so it can perform actions and the human can get the blame for them. Apparently this is marketing and not terrifying to people.
- jjcm 2mo agoIt'll ask you to take over its computer to log in: https://image.non.io/4022ec77-be07-4baa-97e8-ad9d8d9aeb8a.webp https://image.non.io/4022ec77-be07-4baa-97e8-ad9d8d9aeb8a.we... After you do you just tell the bot you're done logging in and it'll keep driving. And yea, it's a separate VM for each bot. Source: had access for the last few weeks.
- bakies 2mo agoHow my bots do it is chrome dev tools or puppeteer or w/e. I've got chrome vnc (for monitoring) and headless X in the container with them. Works pretty flawlessly.
- ryanmerket 2mo agodont forget the "Elon-Only Settings" makes it different too https://runtimewire.com/article/grok-bot-s-hidden-elon-only-settings-picker-lists-33-models https://runtimewire.com/article/grok-bot-s-hidden-elon-only-...
- jjcm 2mo agoDupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49261532#49263241 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49261532#49263241. Dang - might be worth merging these two.
- redox99 2mo agoThat one for some reason is [flagged]
- surprisetalk 2mo agoThis seems like a very clever product move from X.ai I wonder if they're going to try and compete against Slack with X.com chat?
- mike_hearn 2mo agoNeat. I haven't had access to Grok Bot but I rolled my own async agent a while ago using systemd, Codex and old school UNIX stuff like sendmail/postfix/Maildirs. The model gets a rolling and continuously compacted context window in which mail arriving or timed wakeups cause Codex to resume a session with a prompt telling it to do stuff. As it's linked to an SMTP gateway I interact with it entirely by email. It also has API keys for my internal bug tracker, it has its own git forks of my repos and so on. Over time it's improved itself so it has adaptive wakeups, a nice monitoring dashboard so I can see what it's doing if I want, a bunch of skills, a nightly wakeup to reorganize its home directories and so on. It keeps a private knowledge base in its home dir and writes its own skills, and it has a persistent todo list. When the todo list is populated it wakes up more frequently so it can break work up into chunks, a kind of basic Ralph loop. I've found this email-centric paradigm works pretty nicely for me compared to just running a local CLI agent. For instance, I can assign a bug to "Axiom" (it named itself) in YouTrack and the email notification causes it to wake up and start work on the bug. If it gets blocked, it uses its API key to post a comment back to the ticket. If I think of something I just quickly email it, so I'm using Gmail instead of dealing with finicky ChatGPT style UIs that don't have good support for labelling, compact UI and other nice things. On older models its judgement about what to work on wasn't that good, but with the latest GPTs it's doing much better. I just got back from holiday and it had triaged and resolved over 25 different bugs, a nice selection too. Because the whole thing runs in a dedicated UNIX user account it is able to modify its own configuration, which has helped as I developed this setup. However, based on the blog post, Grok Bot sounds a fair bit more sophisticated. I haven't felt a need for more than one bot as I can't easily saturate even a single bot. Cost: just uses my regular ChatGPT Plus subscription, $20/month, plus of course the server it runs on (which is shared with lots of other stuff). I'm not working with it heavily, perhaps if I did I'd need the $200/month sub.
- Computer0 2mo agoI am unsure if this is the end all be all but it appears preferable to claude code desktop to me.
- jujube3 2mo agoGrok lobster! (Rock lobster music starts playing)
- jesse_dot_id 2mo agoI think perhaps I won't trust anything that ever gets released by this company, likely in perpetuity.
- agile-gift0262 2mo agoThere are two companies that have lost my trust, probably forever: X and Meta. I don't see myself ever trusting anything coming out of either of these companies ever again
- davidw 2mo agoMeta feels more like your traditional 'greedy corporation' that's fairly amoral and as a consequence ends up doing some bad things in pursuit of more profits. The other one feels pretty explicitly evil at this point.
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- thih9 2mo agoAnecdotally, same; recently I stopped using Cursor after learning that XAI now owns it.
- whynotmaybe 2mo agoIt should be studied how we reached a point where we trust more a Chinese company, that's well know for being state controlled, vs an American company because it seems they could do worse. Still no idea what "worse" it could do because we've reached the threshold where plague and cholera are intertwined and every possible outcome seems abusive.
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- kerv 2mo agoAre there any opensource app/system that directly competes with a solution like this?
- lukebuehler 2mo agoIm working on one here: https://github.com/smartcomputer-ai/lightspeed https://github.com/smartcomputer-ai/lightspeed The core is there. But there is some work to be done to have a nicer shell and all, which I’m currently focusing on.
- redrove 2mo agoOh this looks very interesting, both for personal and work; I’ve been looking for something similar for quite a while. However, no OpenAI API support (just Anthropic + openai.com) means I can’t use it for either.
- lukebuehler 2mo agoThe OpenAI API style (completions) support is coming this week. Currently working on it.
- blehn 2mo agohttps://buzz.xyz/ https://buzz.xyz/
- redrove 2mo agoI’ve tried using this as a self hosted instance and it’s been a little rough around the edges with Hermes.
- mellosouls 2mo agoGrokbot is another derivative of open source originals like Open Claw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenClaw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenClaw
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- anthonyskipper 2mo agoThe scariest part of the interaction is the first video at https://x.ai/bot https://x.ai/bot where the bot just snags your creds from the browser and takes over. So many people are going to give x all their data and creds.
- edoceo 2mo agoWhat? How? Just the x.com creds or other ones too?
- kylecazar 2mo agoI assume they store your session state/token for whatever SaaS it needs to work with but not the creds.
- bakies 2mo agoMany people assumed they didnt upload your whole home dir when you launched their IDE
- solid_fuel 2mo agoYeah, assuming that X is doing the honest and well-behaved thing is a mistake given their past actions.
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- nozzlegear 2mo agoWell, it's the "Everything App" after all! /s
- roughly 2mo agoThe world ends not with a bang, but with a “you’re right, I shouldn’t have done that. It’s right there in my agents.md file.”
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- whimsicalism 2mo agoHow do they stop providers (like Amazon, etc.) from detecting and blocking these agents if they are running on cloud? I know that openai wasn't able to avoid this which is why they moved to 'computer use' on your local machine. I almost wonder if this is a place where SpaceX, as an internet provider through starlink, has a unique advantage because websites are unable to block their networking as it could be residential starlink consumers.
- theplumber 2mo agoI think it creates a loop back connection, basically a reverse socks5 or a VPN if they are more sophisticated. That’s how I would do it. Note that I am also working on a such bot/AI os and mine is better (for now) . If you have trillions, billions to or millions to invest feel free to reach out.
- whimsicalism 2mo agoThis would imply you need to have your computer on in order for it to function, which seems like a deal breaker for many consumer usecases imo. I'd like to be able to say "order my groceries" and then I hop on the subway.
- edot 2mo agoNot a big deal at all. Claude Code and Codex both support keeping your computer awake. That'll just be a default thing that gets turned on when you install one of these apps.
- whimsicalism 2mo agoi just completely disagree. lots of people don't even have laptops and how will they keep my laptop alive and performing tasks while it's in my backpack on the subway not connected to internet? i feel like there's an obvious advantage if your agent can work truly in the background
- mrtksn 2mo agoInteresting how everyone seems to be following OpenAI on UX. When I used Antigravity and they suddenly switched to Codex type UI I was very annoyed because I kept checking if this is Codex or Antigravity. Either way, I still don't think that computer use is solved. It worked horribly on Codex and Antigravity the last time I tried. Maybe I was doing something wrong.
- leerob 2mo agoIt's quite a bit different, namely that ChatGPT Work has both local conversations and cloud agents. But for each cloud agent, you are spinning up and tearing down a new VM each time. This is an always-on Linux box, which stays logged in. Additionally, your bots can talk to each other (although Codex did have the ability to reference threads, I am not sure if one thread could send messages to other threads).
- redox99 2mo agoComputer use will suck until we get 500+ tk/s
- h14h 2mo agoI've already been doing something very similar to this with OpenClaw, where I set up multiple different Telegram bots each with different system prompts to tune their personalty & behavior. It's not trivial to do, and I never managed to get bot-to-bot communication working. Even with my janky setup, the experience is honestly pretty great. Grok Bot simplifies the setup for this about as far as I imagine is possible, and frankly it's a pretty slick experience. I fully expect this paradigm to catch on quickly.
- CGamesPlay 2mo ago> I never managed to get bot-to-bot communication working. Were you attempting to get them to message amongst themselves over Telegram, or something different?
- h14h 2mo agoI tried briefly to figure out how to get them to communicate in a way that would at least be visible in Telegram, but quickly concluded it'd require a lot of custom hackery. Honestly I'm probably more likely to build my own OpenClaw-mini with a custom client app. Shoehorning client connectivity into an existing messaging app borderline feels more complicated than just having an LLM build a minimal client app from scratch with full awareness of the backend capabilities.
- CGamesPlay 2mo agoICYMI, this recently passed through the front page. Buzz might be interesting for you: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49272484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49272484
- XCSme 2mo agoThe eternal fight between bots and anti-bot systems. The difference now is that big companies themselves promote/offer bots, but they also don't like to be scraped and use captchas. What do we do now? Is it allowed to use automated tools to interact with any system? Is it allowed to scrape data? Are there any laws for this? If we do things manually it is ok, but not if we use a bot? Confusing (legal) times...
- akersten 2mo ago> Is it allowed to use automated tools to interact with any system? I'd hope so, because that's what we're doing right now. Your browser is automatically speaking HTTP for you so that you don't have to. Am I having a bit of a laugh? Maybe. But really, services should be user-agent agnostic. That's the whole "agent" part of User Agent and the founders of the Internet had incredible foresight to name it this way. > Is it allowed to scrape data? You mean, request data and receive what the other server voluntarily transmits? > Are there any laws for this? There was a court case that said the above is fine, thankfully, since that's how the internet works. There's probably other cases going on and I'm sure at least one of them will have some unfortunate tech-illiterate result that makes things worse for anyone who understands this stuff.
- XCSme 2mo ago> Your browser is automatically speaking HTTP for you so that you don't have to. Yes, but it's not filling in the forms or clicking the buttons for me. HTTP is just infrastructure. Are LLMs infrastructure? Are we too maybe infrastructure? Where do we draw the line? > You mean, request data and receive what the other server voluntarily transmits? I mean to go over a large collection of publicly or privately (to you) available pages and parse and collect the data, with idea of using it in other purposes. Regarding scraping, considering that this whole AI phase was built on illegal scraping, I don't think they can say anything now...
- akersten 2mo ago> I mean to go over a large collection of publicly or privately (to you) available pages and parse and collect the data, with idea of using it in other purposes. I've always called that "learning" but I guess it's called something else when a robot does it :)
- drop_star 2mo agoSo OpenClaw that steals your data and profiles you for the US gov. No thanks.
- narrator 2mo agoA tool that only people who trust Elon can use.
- netsharc 2mo agoElon wanted X to be a universal app like WeChat. Communication, payment, government services (and probably one-shop stop for user surveillance)... Wahey, looking forward to Grokbot telling its users "we logged in to your bank account and moved all your money to BankX, it's got the best interest rate!"
- m463 2mo agoI wonder what grok "unhinged" would do to your social calendar/bank account.
- notatoad 2mo agoyeah, it really feels like the economics of AI are going to settle on trust - who do you trust to act on your behalf, because that's where the real value comes in. and at the same time, it feels like all the AI companies - not just elon - are doing everything they can to burn trust.
- ryanmerket 2mo agolike creating "Elon-Only Settings" https://runtimewire.com/article/grok-bot-s-hidden-elon-only-settings-picker-lists-33-models https://runtimewire.com/article/grok-bot-s-hidden-elon-only-... do these guys not know we can reverse this stuff in 10min?
- WillMorr 2mo agoI'm a little baffled by this, it's basically like the remote Claude instances I already use every day except it has absolutely no safeguards? If I wanted to make a claude could post to linkedin it would be like one prompt to spin that with playwright. Like you can just have persistent Claude code sessions, if you aren't cost sensitive you can just keep restarting the session whenever. They're clearly targeting less technical users but in exchange are asking you to upload every login you have to Elon's servers which is an insane thing to do imo. What a world where people are giving their Instagram sign in to the bot formerly known as mechahitler.
- dylanhouli 2mo agoI feel like we'd be better off if we just stopped at chatbots...why are we so eager to make the internet even more botted
- seattle_spring 2mo agoYeah I'm a bit baffled too... the world is so, so much worse now because of AI. More scams/spam, lower quality software everywhere, development is no longer fun, many interactions with coworkers are just "have my people talk to your people" behind the scenes, except it's "have my LLM read the huge document your LLM generated". Every business is trying to cut corners by using AI, so customer service sucks, products suck, prices are optimized to be the absolute maximum people will pay regardless of the actual value being provided (including food)...
- squibonpig 2mo agoThat's not AI it's just capitalism
- redox99 2mo agoThe internet sucks. Yesterday, I had my agent search for openings for The Odyssey that fit my requirements and then book them. It was way better than manually looking at seat maps for 20 different showtimes and going through 10 steps just to buy the tickets.
- werdnapk 2mo agoSo why didn't you just do it manually? Why use an agent in the first place?
- throw-the-towel 2mo agoBecause doing it manually sucks? Every website shoves a different bunch of dark patterns in your face, everything is buggy, nobody ever thinks about UX.
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- johndhi 2mo agoDo you have to pay the companies for a second login for the bot...?
- c0rruptbytes 2mo agothey probably should kill the grok branding...
- nticompass 2mo agothey should probably kill grok
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- impulser_ 2mo agoThe problem these model providers have now is there software is basically useless. Tell me one reason why I would use this at my company? I basically have to bet on Grok being the best models for this. Or I can use an open source version and use whatever model I want. You see this with coding agents, everyone used Claude Code and then realized holy shit this is expensive and now use open source agents and they can use open source models and cut costs.
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- dmix 2mo ago> Tell me one reason why I would use this at my company? I believe the selling point here is these run on their own VMs, so you don't need to set up your own harnesses, models, and security infrastructure to run agents. Historically people tend to pay for single-click commercial solutions for complex technical set ups like that.
- smoke4sanity 2mo agoI assume he meant an actual use case. Its architecture alone is not a reason to use it.
- impulser_ 2mo agoI was talking about why would I use a Grok specific version of this instead of one that I can switch models. What if Grok models become horrible or they increase the pricing of the subscriptions now you have to migrate off. Instead you could just use the open source version that allows you to choose your providers and switch cost is just the time to switch those providers.
- stillpointlab 2mo agoOne advantage of code over many other use cases is that github is often the source of truth, so whatever is in Claude Code or Codex is ultimately replaceable. It's for this reason I am bullish on text formats in general. Or maybe sqlite wrappers where databases are necessary. But I want a separation between the worker and the work through some data contract that allows me to easily move my stuff around.
- indigodaddy 2mo agoThis seems like a disaster waiting to happen
- arjie 2mo agoThis looks amazing. Lots of good ideas here. The human in the loop story is quite good here. I will shamelessly lift it for myself.
- theahura 2mo agoin case you are interested in ~this for your team, but dont want to either be vendor-locked to grok or give mecha-hitler extra money, consider trying what we've been building at https://noriagentic.com/ https://noriagentic.com/ (or any of the other startups working in the same space)
- ls612 2mo agoSo this is a Hermes Agent plus a credential proxy it sounds like?
- stillpointlab 2mo agoThis is obviously the future, where this will all end up. But just like when I saw the demos for Google's "AI build the interface dynamically", I wonder how much of the demo actually translates to real usage. One thing that this highlights for me even more than before is that having accounts for my bots is what I really want. I want SaaS providers to catch up to bot use. They need their own accounts on a lot of these services and per-seat pricing works against this.
- ralph84 2mo agoHow does per-seat pricing work against bots? If anything it's a great deal because SaaS providers set per-seat pricing with the expectation that on average most seats are idle. Bots working 24x7 can get a lot more value out of a seat than humans working 9-5.
- stillpointlab 2mo agoI just mean for me as a solo dev I guess. For example, github gives 2 users as part of a basic org and charges extra per seat, so if I want seats for individual agents so I can track them separately then I have to pay more. Same with Google Workspace, where I have to pay for additional users if I want to have multiple accounts. As an example, I wanted to set up users in AWS identity center so I can give view only access to bots for my infrastructure, but that requires different email addresses. I set up an alias on my existing user so I didn't have to do that, but ideally I could have accounts for agent1 and agent2. I can usually find workarounds like this but I feel I shouldn't have to. I don't want the agents to share my permissions in general since I'm often the admin. I want to give them limited scopes whenever possible. edit: for reference, a Google Workspace user is ~220CAD/year and a github user is ~50USD/year. That is quite expensive if I want to add a couple of agents (well over 500CAD/year).
- bulder 2mo agoPresumably it'll either mean selling "agent seats", or billing seats for every started hour of use. With a monthly minimum, of course.
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- madebywelch 2mo agoMy initial impression is strong: Agent-to-Agent comms are clearly a first-class citizen of this tech. There's a cohesion that's palpable. Maybe it just fits my workflow better than other tools. I have some routines set up for tomorrow morning that will tell me if the juice is worth the squeeze. 48% weekly usage left after 3 hours of experimenting, tough.
- Pungsnigel 2mo agoWhat plan are you on? Does the bot have its own usage, or does it count against cursor/grok code usage?
- madebywelch 2mo agoI purchased Ultra just to test. The cursor dashboard doesn't show I have any usage, but the app says 48%
- chaostheory 2mo agoIt's a great idea, but the problem is with the latest versions of Grok. It's like xAI copied Google's Gemini. Grok now minimizes its effort. Like Gemini "Pro", it's become a flash model that provides shallow answers quickly.
- wraptile 2mo agoI used to think if all else fails I'd take the path of a Cynic and retire in a giant vase. I'm not quite sure anymore. If you're done with society and the world you might as well prompt inject from a beach somewhere, and we're so not ready for this.
- blahblaher 2mo agodon't use the hitler bot please and thank you.
- czottmann 2mo agoUpvoted. Nobody else seems to be fine with the White Supremacy site, but you aren't. Thanks for making me feel less alone.
- virgildotcodes 2mo agoThis is basically openclaw with browser access, or am I missing something?
- archagon 2mo agoHere's some totally normal stuff that Grok’s owner has been posting recently: * "Anyone who opposes remigration is a traitor" * "She is a traitor to the West, plain and simple" (in reference to his recent interviewer) * "Deal with traitors before invaders. They are committing high treason." * "First the traitors, then the invaders" (screenshot from Citizen Vigilante pointing gun at camera) Yes sirree: just a completely normal tech product without any asterisks.
- solid_fuel 2mo agoMighty big words from Musk, who is himself actually guilty of treason.
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- rw2 2mo agohow does this compare to Hermes which is much cheaper?
- agnosticmantis 2mo agoWe need more and stronger open source/weight models considering how deeply and intimately these bots are going to be integrated in our lives. I hope that Dario Amodei fails in his quest to regulate open models out of existence to line his pocket under the guise of safety. Amodei/anthropic will end up being the most harmful force in the next few decades where progress in AI is concerned. I hope people realize sooner than later that this is a replay of early Microsoft vs open source situation and Amodei is the new Gates on a crusade against open source/Linux.
- squibonpig 2mo agoGood news is there's Chinese companies doing it outside of US jurisdiction
- bandrami 2mo agoIDK, it's the same problem I had with OpenClaw: I can't think of anything I need done that I want it to do for me.
- BrokenCogs 2mo agoWhat about hype posting about how you're automating your life so now you have time for MORE WORK?
- SilverBirch 2mo agoJust so I'm clear, Grok bot snags your credentials and then pretends to be you whilst surfing the web. If it uses your account to post of X (ie, the social network), is it adhering to X terms of service or is that violating policy by using a bot?
- gexla 2mo agoThis is super confusing. It's not supposed to have a Linux version and it's supposed to be only for Supergrok Heavy (during beta according to the docs) and yet the landing page gave me an option to download it for Linux and to setup a trial account that I could use it with via Cursor. But, it doesn't seem to get through the gates to connect to whatever it needs to connect to. Otherwise, I think this would still go into my "I don't get it" folder. It seems like the flavor of the day is "agents can talk to each other" and Grok Bot is selling that point along with Claude Code. But I think Pi has had this for a while? Or it was easy to wire it in.
- diseasedyak 2mo agoI don't understand how they get around bot blockers and captcha. I use Hermes locally and you can't get around any of that, even using your own credentials.
- swordsith 2mo agoThe devil is in the useragent and other request metadata
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