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Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
- tosh 2mo agofree unlimited luna is a pretty badass move luna is very good
- skybrian 2mo agoIt's also pretty cheap if you're paying for it (for coding). But I don't quite trust it for anything complicated, so I often use Terra.
- redox99 2mo agoTerra is awful and not cheap enough to make up for it. I'd suggest using luna or sol.
- Sammi 2mo agoSo Luna is more awful but it's OK because it's cheaper?
- redox99 2mo agoYes. You're better off running Luna Max or Sol Medium and never touching Terra.
- LaurensBER 2mo agoI've had great success with using Luna and having DeepSeek 4 Flash check Luna's output. Oh My Pi has a mode built-in that does this automatically ("advisor" mode). Deepseek only interrupts when it spots an issue so it doesn't slow Luna down. Both models are cheap enough that I can run 4 sessions at the same time without running out of the 20 USD codex and 10 USD Opencode plan. I've burned through almost a billion tokens this week and I've done some pretty big refactors as well. I have a Claude Max subscription but I've barely been using it because of the many issues they've had this week.
- dannyw 2mo agoYes, in the same way a basic, dry hotdog at $5 is bad, but I could love it in $0.50. Pricing absolutely matters.
- ssl-3 2mo agoIndeed. I buy 2 hot dogs for $1 at Sheetz sometimes. For that price, I get them with mustard, onions, and sauerkraut already on them. They are not excellent in any way. I will probably never love them. :) But they're available 24/7/365 and they don't take long for the staff to throw together. And most importantly: They sure are cheap. (Costco's $1.50 dog+Coke is much higher quality and presents a better value, but it requires visiting a Costco and that has its own cost.)
- stuartq 2mo agoTerra is far from awful. I've not used Luna enough to judge whether it's significantly better than Luna, but at least via GitHub Copilot, Terra is leaps ahead of Sonnet 5.
- causal 2mo agoI guess I should give it another shot because I had pretty bad experience with Luna when it first came out. Stuff Sonnet knew better.
- beering 2mo agoLuna correlates with Claude Haiku, not sonnet. I think Terra would be the equivalent to Sonnet.
- timpera 2mo agoAny improvement to the ChatGPT free plan is really nice. It's easy to forget that most people have never used a SOTA model, and only think of their experience with GPT-4o or Google Search's AI Overviews when asked about AI.
- msq22 2mo agoWere free users subject to some limits? I've never run into any limits.
- timpera 2mo agoIt used to be 10 messages every 5 hours using GPT-5, then unlimited 4o-mini. More recently, it went down to ~5 messages per day on 5.5 Instant, then unlimited on 5.5 mini.
- jauntywundrkind 2mo agoAt first I thought the Sol updates was perhaps trying to help with some complaints of Sol burning through tokens, complaints that have prompted some new data points on https://codex-resets.com/ https://codex-resets.com/ . But seeing the graphic with the visual weather report: that makes me think that is not the goal at all. :)
- laweijfmvo 2mo agoWhat a bizarre example of a more direct answer. Any human would simply say “No, it doesn’t rain here in summer.” Even after identifying the 0% chance of rain, it still drags the conversation on and on and on
- taikahessu 2mo agoWould you like to know more? Seriously though, of course, it's tuned for maximum engagement, not maximum efficiency. I wonder how long this engagement dopamine circus can last... too long apparently.
- sunaookami 2mo agoGPT models were RLHF'd to death, they will never give a final, direct answer. Every release since the GPT-4o catastrophy is like this, it's so tiresome. They need a complete reset before it can become actually usable again. Or not as maximum engagement seems to be their goal.
- colingauvin 2mo agoThey must really be feeling the commoditization pressure. I'm not sure what the way out of this is, ChatGPT and Claude are still good products, but they are not necessarily premium products anymore. I expect a few things to happen in the next year: 1) Exclusive MCP server deals/API integrations 2) Significant switch to B2B marketing, even moreso than we've seen before, with API interfaces being paid and chat-client interfaces becoming more and more free, perhaps just with limits more on integrations or data visualization/analysis 3) US restrictions on B2B contracts with non-US hosted models that do any sort of contracting with the government Obviously there's a bunch of stuff I'm not foreseeing. But it really does feel like the bottom of the market is collapsing into free. I assume OpenAI and Anthropic think their next generation of models will restore their halo tier status and that the cash burn is justified to just get there, but this has to really mess up IPO plans.
- redox99 2mo agoI'm not sure I agree 1) Back then, even as a free user you'd be able to use the strongest model (even if with tight limits). Now, you need to pay to use Sol, and you need to pay to use Opus or Fable. It does seem fairly premium in that sense. Idk about 5.6 Luna, but the previous Instant was really bad, even for very casual users. It would hallucinate non stop. 2) When $100 and $200 per month plans launched, they were received as outrageous even here. Nowadays they are pretty common among power users.
- colingauvin 2mo ago>1) Back then, even as a free user you'd be able to use the strongest model (even if with tight limits). Now, you need to pay to use Sol, and you need to pay to use Opus or Fable. It does seem fairly premium in that sense. Idk about 5.6 Luna, but the previous Instant was really bad, even for very casual users. It would hallucinate non stop. This is kind of what I'm saying though. Bottom has fallen out, differentiation is just can you be much more premium than the competition. Currently that remains unanswered. EDIT: I'm basing this off the assumption that for chat, premium is not a point of differentiation at all. For coding/analysis, it is.
- ignoramous 2mo agoEvery week, 1 billion people turn to ChatGPT for everything from quick questions and web searches to planning, research, advice, and complex decisions. Guess, Google's AI Mode is chipping away at their consumers (I know I haven't used Chat in a long, long while for 'quick questions and web searches' after OpenAI did away with "think" which I always use). The money-minting office & coding market Anthropic has cornered is hyper-competitive at both the frontier & low-cost ends. OpenAI is reactive [0] and seems right up against it, despite the strength of its excellent models. [0] Won't put it past OpenAI (and/or Google) to open weight larger models!
- skybrian 2mo ago$20/month also gives you API access for coding, in any coding agent. I keep hitting the weekly limit but it's a good deal while it lasts.
- porridgeraisin 2mo agoDid they do away with think? I think now you have to do it with /think
- drivebyhooting 2mo agoGoogle’s AI has been very glitchy for me lately. I used to reserve chatGPT for serious work and Gemini for daily personalized unimportant things. But now I switched completely to ChatGPT and resigned myself to their memories/personalization.
- sk4rekr0w 2mo agoYou've jumped to a naive conclusion
- firasd 2mo agoI think it’s a misread to think the default ChatGPT model switching to GPT 5.6 Luna is some sort of desperation move. Keep in mind that Claude .ai never had this extreme stratification between the frontier models and the free tier (Sonnet is available to free users with rate limits). So 5.6 Luna is just their next version of what they used to call 5.5 instant tier And 5.x instant models were never much to write home about anyway so the default ChatGPT free model hasn’t been particularly distinctive since 4o
- freakynit 2mo agoClaude's rate limits are absolutely shit for free users. 3 chats and its gone for 24 hours.
- claudiug 2mo agoI dont see that, and I have a lot of chats, long messages, and is not 3 chats.
- vezycash 2mo agoIt has limits when there's an attachment in that chat session. Switch to a new chat and you're good to go
- drnick1 2mo agoYes, but you can create multiple accounts. It has to be inconvenient enough or no one would pay for the higher tiers.
- robomartin 2mo agoIt's one thing to be a free user...quite another to be an entitled free user. This is precisely why I do not offer anything for free. I've been there and done it back in the iPhone 3 era with a dozen apps. Learned my lesson quickly. Never again. It was a nightmare. If the product isn't good enough for someone to pay for it (that could be direct user-paid or advertiser supported) it should not exist.
- ElijahLynn 2mo agoI can't wait to never see a reasoning button ever again. Why do I have to reason about what reasoning level to use?
- timpera 2mo agoI think it's nice to be able to make the model reason for dozens of minutes when you want to go deep on a topic, even if the router thinks it's an easy question.
- skybrian 2mo agoSome people want quick results. Some people want it to keep searching for a new math proof overnight without giving up, and they have money to burn. It seems like giving it a time limit or a budget in dollars would be clearer, though? Or, keep searching until I come back to the computer and ask about progress.
- pllbnk 2mo agoThe _Intelligence_ part of AGI should be able to guide the user through that without all the knobs.
- vanuatu 2mo agointelligence is not omniscience though
- stymaar 2mo agoAsking questions to clarify user intent is a very low bar for intelligence. A bar that all SOTA models fail consistently at though. (It's both funny and legit infuriating when Opus, after having made a dozen wild assumptions without checking with you, then comes back with a request for clarification on some mundane topic).
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- kingstnap 2mo agoIts always fun to try to read between the lines here to speculate why they are doing this. Maybe Luna efficiency gain was actually significant enough that putting all the free users and giving them super generous limits makes sense. They might be doing this to improve the messaging of AI among causal users since right now there is a huge amount of datacenter backlash in the US due to AI grievances. Maybe they have too much excess capacity or they really want to juice token numbers and market share on their dashboards for marketing. I also wonder if being given access to an actually a decent model like luna with actual thinking budget instead of brainless "instant" modes will start to make causal users understand the real capabilities of these models.
- deanc 2mo agoIt's also going to be more training data for them.
- ToValueFunfetti 2mo agoIs this new behavior from them? I haven't looked at their free chat offering in a minute, but I thought they always had them close behind paid tier, often with essentially equal products that made it weird for them to sell the paid tier for chat.
- mkozlows 2mo agoNo, free tier was total garbage with GPT-5.
- kingstnap 2mo agoYou can't even pick 5.6 luna on the chat app with a paid subscription. It just gives you sol (or use older models) with what seems like basically as much usage as you want. And sol is considerably smarter than luna. All of this is of pretty minor importance though. You can't read as many tokens as a subcription can produce so more chat is not the value add nor super important. I mean there are literally so many providers for free chat if you are willing to use several seperate apps. The real value in these subs is using codex cli, much like the real point of anthropic subs is using claude code. Because agentic work actually does require a lot of tokens.
- porridgeraisin 2mo agoI dont pay for a chatgpt subscription, but sometimes I did use the web app for throwaway questions. GPT 5.5 Instant or whatever it was that they had was absolutely horrendous. Never answered a question straight and was pedantic in a way even a redditor wouldn't be. So I dropped it and just opened my paid coding agent for everything. Grok.com is quite good now with grok 4.5 though and I find myself using that often. Hopefully luna will be similar.
- ilaksh 2mo ago> Our mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. We’re introducing updates to ChatGPT that improve everyday conversations while expanding access for Free users. This clearly implies that they believe ChatGPT models are AGI and are now willing to say it out loud. Which I think is a fair interpretation of the term. They are general purpose intelligence in that you can get help from them about almost anything. They are not like narrow single purpose AI models. I don't think we need that term to mean "can completely emulate a human" or "can do every task any human on earth can do as well as them". It also needs to be differentiated from ASI with godlike powers many times greater than human.
- kkoncevicius 2mo agoIf we could show the current models to someone like Alan Turing, I am sure he would conclude that we have AGI.
- stymaar 2mo agoAnd after half an hour using it he'd just admit that his test was way too simple as these models are still way too dumb
- klibertp 2mo agoI think of the Turing test as one of the starting lines, along with image recognition ("a summer break project for a group of grad students" resisted being solved for decades). It is a huge leap. Now we can start talking about "intelligence" at all - we really couldn't before. That we're still hovering barely above the starting line is a separate matter (also worth noting, of course).
- stavros 2mo agoHow are the models too dumb? How are they dumber than the average person? I wonder if anyone gave Claude an IQ test (the one for humans).
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- heaney-555 2mo agoGiving free ChatGPT users access to reasoning (the 'Think' toggle) will have a broader impact on the world than every new paid model and coding agent combined.
- daemonologist 2mo agoGoing from 5.5 Instant (which was noticeably bad) to 5.6 Luna is a big jump as well. OpenAI is probably the most prominent among the general public - an advantage in some respects but they're giving away a lot of free inference and thus have to use a pretty small model to do it.
- johnsmith1840 2mo agoI really don't see how they're going to be google here. The free tier is dominated by verticle integration and the platform that people use. Long term I imagine google wins the bottom of the market and I'd be suprised if they lost.
- Tostino 2mo agoPeople tell these models everything. You don't think a pretty unethical company can figure out a way to monetize that?
- aniceperson 2mo agoa m-dash in the title? whoa things are degrading fast
- simianwords 2mo agoDoes 5.6 Sol finally have an "instant" form? Is that the change?
- redox99 2mo agoYes
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- nickthegreek 2mo agoInstant uses Luna, not Sol.
- simianwords 2mo agoThere’s no luna instant I can see
- simonw 2mo agoNothing in the ChatGPT model release notes yet: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-no... (This is a subtle nudge at anyone from OpenAI who reads this to make sure they get updated.) OpenAI have a model called "chat-latest" - I wonder if that's running this new model yet: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/chat-latest https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/chat-latest It's described as "points to the latest Instant model currently used in ChatGPT" - so presumably that's "GPT-5.6 Instant" in the app.
- firasd 2mo agoThere’s no 5.6 instant I think — 5.6 Luna is gonna be the new instant tier model
- simonw 2mo agoNo, Luna is the new free model. https://gist.github.com/simonw/aae4febd3c6f7bc5b7811857edb3cdb5 https://gist.github.com/simonw/aae4febd3c6f7bc5b7811857edb3c... has screenshots that still show "Instant" as an option for ChatGPT Chat... but not for ChatGPT Work.
- firasd 2mo agoHmm It’s hard to understand this .. like sure we can select instant but is there an actual model called 5.6 instant? Like is it on LM Arena and OpenRouter or available via API etc 5.5 instant is definitely A Thing it’s even name checked in this OAI post
- simonw 2mo agoIt's SO hard to understand this. I couldn't confidently explain it at all.
- hluska 2mo agoIt’s not subtle when you point it out - you’re looking for a different phrase entirely.
- OsamaJaber 2mo agoExpanding free access is mostly an inference cost Serving cheaply at that scale means routing, batching, and cache hits, not a better model :D
- Squarex 2mo agoWhy pay for ChatGPT Go then?
- HDBaseT 2mo agoAccess to "ChatGPT-Image-2" I suppose?
- sunaookami 2mo agoThis is actually a downgrade for free users since currently it uses GPT-5.5 for a few messages before it drops you down to GPT-5.5-mini. Now it always uses a model worse than Mini (Luna is nano-equivalent, "It roughly corresponds to the nano model tier used in earlier GPT-5 families." https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-5.6-luna https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-5.6-luna ). I guess it's a bit better with Thinking though. They should use Terra for a few messages first before dropping down to Luna. And image inputs are still limited.
- dannyw 2mo agoYou should try Luna, or look at one of the many independent benchmarks. Even in non-thinking, it's not remotely in the same class as -nano (luna is much smarter).
- saithound 2mo agoWhile their math results are impressive, vibe coding their own web UIs with their subpar design models is really going to backfire if their plan is to attract new users with better free model offerings. The Aug 6 update has forced the entry box to auto-format Markdown in an attempt to imitate Claude. The implementation is buggy and even simple copy-and-paste has gone entirely haywire. They also forgot to leave a switch to turn the confounded autoformatting thing off. Chat mode in general is currently crawling with more UX bugs than a porch screen in summer.
- applfanboysbgon 2mo ago> Our mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. We’re introducing updates to ChatGPT that improve everyday conversations while expanding access for Free users. My mission is world conquest. I'm writing a comment on an HN thread. No, those two clauses have no relation whatsoever. I just felt like saying the first sentence because it sounded cool.
- solenoid0937 2mo agoThey are communicating that they have reached AGI in order to create a trail of documentation for the Microsoft legal battle
- kgeist 2mo ago>avoid extra detail when it does not help I wonder if they actually do it to optimize inference. I maintain a corporate AI server and one of the tricks to reduce the load was to modify the system prompt to be as terse as possible so the average response completes faster and requests queue up less often.
- dannyw 2mo agoOh absolutely! The LLM equivalent of "death and taxes" is prefill and decode; and that holds true irrespective of proprietary inference optimizations. Less verbose output = less context & less token gen.
- beering 2mo agoIf you remember how crazy verbose previous gpt models were… clearly there’s something going on unrelated to cost. It would restate the same thing in different words several times and fill the output with emoji or lists.
- kaszanka 2mo ago> Because this version of GPT‑5.6 Sol is optimized for everyday chats, it will only be available in the Chat experience in ChatGPT. The version of GPT‑5.6 Sol that powers Work and Codex is not changing as part of this release. Hm, does this mean that 5.6 Pro in ChatGPT web is somehow different/not as good now? I found it really good for code review (upload your repo and patch and off it goes).
- johnnyApplePRNG 2mo agoExcellent. Yes, please give free users more access and leave paying codex users in the dust. Wise plan, Sam.
- cbg0 2mo agoHow are they leaving paying users in the dust? This is their cheapest model which you can already use full-blast even on a $20 plan.
- beering 2mo agoIt’s interesting how people will interpret news in ways that seem bizarre, but they were looking for something to be angry about.
- ssl-3 2mo agoEh? I've paid for ChatGPT (and in the recent ~year, codex) for about as long as it was available to pay for. I'm not upset by the offer of giving luna to the masses for free -- not at all. Should I be upset that people can cut-and-paste to the lessest of the new model variations for free? If so, then why? Nothing was taken from me here. I'm still going to keep doing whatever it is that I do with the tools that I've been using. I'm not in competition with anyone, and even if I were then it wouldn't be with those who are using ChatGPT for free on the web.
- rrvsh 2mo agoWhat do you mean? Codex paid plan treats me quite well. I'm not going to complain that free users get more shit, especially when it doesn't affect me in any way.
- dannyw 2mo agoDid you not get all the Codex resets (including banked resets), the removal of the 5hr limit, or even the fact that you can use your Codex sub for API purposes and it's allowed under their terms? I dunno, I've honestly never been happier as a Codex customer. Sure, there's been less bonus usage resets recently, but the amount of productivity and value I've gotten out of my $20/month personal subscription is bonkers. If you're price insensitive, Fable 5 is definitely still the best, but a lot of people aren't.
- roytam87 2mo agoOpenAI should be more transparent to (free) users about Data Analysis quota and Chat with attachment quota.
- 1saadcodes 2mo agoI dont get why they'd make this available to free users when they're probably dealing with compute constraints considering their competition with the Chinese models. Giving a more capable model to a huge free user base looks like an expensive choice to me
- freakynit 2mo agoThey've probbaly have realized that the foundation models are becoming commoditized (or will be very soon). We can already run luna medium class models on phones now (bonsai, gemma4). The value is shifting up the stack... make core intelligence free, then monetize the ecosystem built on top of it .. kinda similar to how the internet itself is free, but platforms and apps capture the value. I think we'll see a huge push towards connectors for work and personal tools, along with much deeper os level integration. That's where the long-term moat is, not the base model itself.
- judge2020 2mo agoIMO Competition with chinese models frees up higher-turn and bigger-context tasks, since SWEs are more likely to use model routers for coding. Thinking may be a few more steps but the problems are a lot less complex and probably 1/10th the context size, even when skills and memory are at play.
- dawnerd 2mo agoFor the ad integration, obviously. Plus you tell people they can good up their Apple health and now you get more free training data.
- ssl-3 2mo agoEven though it seems implicit that all of these companies are losing money hand-over-fist, it's still a competitive market. Improving the free offerings is meant to increase visibility and therefore market share. It's not about goodwill, and it never will be. :) The free stuff is primarily marketing and marketing always has costs. In terms of compute, I have no way to really look behind the curtain and see what goes on back there. But I know with codex CLI, in terms of weekly quota: I can get a ton of work done with luna and usually get reasonable results. It feels very compute-light in this way. I'm amazed by the work luna on xhigh can do for the price I pay (just $20, every month). It has the presentation of something that is very efficient to run, while also being something that can actually produce OK results. It's also fairly quick. It differs from many previous smaller offerings of yore in this way. Like, I mean: I found stuff like the -mini models and 4o to be utterly useless wastes of my time. Luna isn't like that at all; it can get some stuff done. So far for me, luna is the most impressive part of the 5.6 rollout. Not because it is best, but because it is useful and cheap. So if luna is decent (it seems that it is), and if it is in fact light (which seems to be true from what I can observe), and it is offered for free, then it may very well be better, faster, and cheaper than the competition is. And that's good for visibility. Marketing is all about buying eyeballs.
- iJohnDoe 2mo ago> For Plus and Pro users, we’re updating GPT‑5.6 Sol in Chat to be more reliable with facts and provide more focused answers. I was not impressed with 5.6 and this hits exactly why. Also, this instant, medium, and high slider situation we now have everywhere is batshit crazy. It’s a major step back in technology. I’ll put money on the table there will be a surprise in revenue because users have no clue what to choose, so they are constantly choosing high because they don’t want to risk getting inaccurate answers. If this was intentional by the dark patterns department, then brilliant. However, I’m guessing Anthropic and OpenAI are struggling to know how to deploy their models. Also, the models were already amazing. They need to slow down and do a model release once a year and only do extremely minor iterations instead. Some amazing things are accomplished, but how people actually want to utilize the models gets screwed up every time in the process.
- qhwudbebd 2mo agoIt seems even worse than that: when you're calling the model, you have this strange two-dimensional thing with reasoning effort (specified in a small handful of random strings like "medium", "xhigh", "max") and "pro" vs "not pro" which is also somehow increasing reasoning budget, but with an interaction that is entirely opaque. How does "medium", "pro" compare with "max", "not-pro" for instance? If you're going to force people to specify manually, at least make it 0.0 - 1.0 normalised such that 0.5 is the default.
- qhwudbebd 2mo agoOpenRouter map this into their API in a slightly different way, making -pro and normal different model slugs, so you have openai/gpt-5.6-luna-pro vs openai/gpt-5.6-luna vs openai/gpt-5.6-sol[-pro], etc. This makes reasoning effort one-dimensional again (albeit with the arbitrary sequence of strings), but now model choice in a given generation is two-dimensional. Either way, it's hard to make any kind of informed decision.
- LUmBULtERA 2mo ago>They need to slow down and do a model release once a year and only do extremely minor iterations instead. There are a ton of use-cases where the models still struggle a lot and make bad decisions, I'd much prefer they continue their acceleration for a while more.
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- aryehof 2mo agoFor me on a paid plan, the effort indicator was hidden and the model was 5.5 instant. I had to press the + button to select “think harder” before the dial that allowed Sol medium or high to be selected to show. It made me wonder how many paid subscribers realize they are using the same 5.5 instant model as free users by default. A dark pattern or oversight?
- maxipoo 2mo agoHow many can tell the difference?
- pants2 2mo agoThere's a super obvious tell, 5.5 instant loves emojis.
- akazantsev 2mo agoThose are just the default settings. Here, you can force it not to use emojis and to be much less verbose: https://chatgpt.com/?no_universal_links=1#settings/Personalization https://chatgpt.com/?no_universal_links=1#settings/Personali...
- reed1234 2mo agoAnd it hides again and reverts to instant when you are away from the app for a while. Definitely annoying.
- Gareth321 2mo agoIt's getting seriously annoying. This is obviously in an attempt to push people to use the cheaper models but I find them appallingly stupid. There was a worrying comment by Tibo recently where he implied that they're aiming to meter chat queries against one's subscription quota.
- krsilas 2mo agoI think thats a difference between Chat and Work. In work mode you can select a model and chat should feel "instant". But I also don't like that differentiation. It's already hard to know which thinking level is necessary, how should users know which mode to use?
- try-working 2mo agoWhat's even more noticable is that Anthropic still hasn't responded to the Kimi K3 release or the DeepSeek release.
- Iolaum 2mo agoDo they? With Fable/Opus duo they have a better product and their customers are paying for quality. They want to be the premium LLM provider letting others compete for the commoditized part of the market.
- bredren 2mo agoEven more so has been what appears to be a miss with Opus 5 in Claude Code.
- solenoid0937 2mo agoOpus 5 is amazing if you use it as an autonomous agent as opposed to a pair programmer. It's like Fable at a much lower price.
- lilytweed 2mo agoThis post makes it sound like paid users should be getting a 5.6 Nonthinking as the Instant option. Still looks like 5.5 Instant to me?
- dannyw 2mo agoLike most companies and releases, OpenAI doesn't flip the switch for everyone at once. I believe Enterprise seats are also generally on a ~2 week delay from consumer.
- nc55g3g 2mo agofree users get unlimited text chats with Luna AND a Think button now? That's a massive upgrade.
- Gareth321 2mo agoMy cynical read on this is that they're going to allow Sol on higher modes to downgrade its mode depending on the question or task.
- Razengan 2mo ago> Because this version of GPT‑5.6 Sol is optimized for everyday chats, it will only be available in the Chat experience in ChatGPT. The version of GPT‑5.6 Sol that powers Work and Codex is not changing as part of this release. So same name, and no indication of which "version" you're using except whether you're in "Chat" or "Work"? Why make it so confusing?
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- itsmeduncan 2mo agoHow long can OpenAI (and Anthropic) incentivize, and keep costs artificially down for tokens to depress investment in private/offline LLMs? It's interesting to watch the cost curves, and burn to see where it stops being venture subsidizes, and the frontier open-weight models become as good.
- qup 2mo agoInference is profitable
- Ejkretlow21 2mo agoHow I can open GPT-5.6 Luna