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OnlyFans models are using AI impersonators to keep up with their DMs
- thr0waway001 2y agoThat’s hilarious.
- domo86 2y agoI think someone should file a class action lawsuit for fraud against Onlyfans and any and all subscribers that have purchased content under the guise of speaking to ai or management team should get fully refunded
- jonesn11 2y agoYeah this is whole operation is weird and I knew it
- dvngnt_ 2y agoi wonder how they get around the heavy censorship that most flagship LLM use. I was assuming that they were outsourcing to lower-wage countries
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- logicchains 2y agoMaybe they're using Gemini; it's possible to disable censorship in Gemini, which combined with a custom base prompt can get the model to say almost anything.
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- probably_wrong 2y agoI don't want to link to the thread because the author didn't seem to want to, but someone in another thread said Llama 3 with a few-shot prompting to get the model to respond, using their actual DMs with fans.
- evan_ 2y agoYouTube provides its creators LLM-generated replies right in the interface, apparently trained on some of the creator's actual replies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QHXElgrl8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QHXElgrl8 If you keep watching there's another feature that actually generates video ideas, scripts, and even thumbnails for video creators. Seems really grim- what is the actual good-faith rationale for using this feature? It seems like the only use case is to trick people into thinking they're having a real interaction.
- mrbungie 2y agoGood-faith rationale: None. Rationale: More growth for less effort, even if there is no soul. Fitting for our times.
- janice1999 2y ago> It seems like the only use case is to trick people into thinking they're having a real interaction. It's easy to rationalise a time saving measure I guess. I feel I'm unauthentic when I use auto-generated response suggestions in Outlook. But, like OnlyFans, it's 'just business'. Perhaps I'm overthinking it. How genuine and heartfelt can OnlyFans responses be? Probably as much as my response to a budget approval.
- nickff 2y agoThe problem is that this seems like DAAS (deception as a service), possibly even fraud.
- prmoustache 2y agoReally? Do people really think OF "performers" really enjoy interaction with random dudes fapping in front of their screen. Shouldn't there be a level of candidness at which it cannot be considered deception? I mean we accept casinos/gambling and religions in our societies for example.
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- beoberha 2y agoSomeone in the “side projects making $500+ per month” thread yesterday said they have a business doing this
- nubinetwork 2y agoPossibly related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38491293 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38491293
- booleandilemma 2y agoThis guy specifically https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682
- pkkkzip 2y agowow lot of moral police in that thread but im genuinely impressed that you can fit six 3080s in 4U space speaking of which anybody have recommendations? I want to run my own inference in colocation too
- ysofunny 2y agoeventually, other AI bots will be the only fans left a trully automatic economy
- mysterydip 2y agofuture money laundering scheme? at some point it wouldn't be much different than the computers that talk to each other in millisecond bursts all day buying and selling stocks
- kittencaboodle 2y agoFortunately, we have humans running financial institutions who will continue to enforce the existing AML laws on the books.
- kmnc 2y agoThe models themselves are going to be replaced by those same AI Impersonators. Onlyfans has to be the most predatory service I have ever used. You are pretty much signing up to be a target of scammers, whether they be some kids in the Philippines sitting with 20 phones, or AI bots, it has become incredibly obvious that every creator uses them. They all employ the same tactic of seeing how much you are willing to pay and then increasingly offering you more and more expensive content. A few years ago you could have some real conversations but now it is just glorified spam. Even if a creator wasn’t using these tactics, the water has been so muddied that you just assume it’s all fake now.
- bawolff 2y agoThe porn industry being predatory? Absolute shocker.
- turing_complete 2y agoI'm curious. Why did you use OF?
- genewitch 2y agoThere were non-nude people on there, once upon a time. But the banking issues around XXX caused a mass migration to that service. I think originally it was supposed to be like patreon. regardless, though, does it matter why?
- muzani 2y agoI think a bunch of people around here used it for tutoring and yoga classes and such. It was meant to be a Patreon. But after a while, they stopped because everyone assumed it was "tutoring" and "yoga classes". Perhaps this is why every platform ends up banning or pushing all the XXX to a red light district.
- popcalc 2y agoIt was started by the founder of clips4sale and intended primarily for the findom kink. They really pushed the SFW angle early on as a way of hanging on to Stripe's low processing rates.
- devjab 2y agoI hope I don’t come off as offensive asking this, but is there really that much of a difference? I’m not a fan of services which prey on peoples loneliness, but isn’t the defining feature or these para-social relationship platforms that they are all make-belief? Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s very hard for me to imagine that you could form any sort of relationship with the thousands of lonely people who pay you money to notice them. Hell, they must have some impressive note taking strategies to remember it all. An AI might end up being more engaging and personal.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoIf you willingly pay money to talk to AI slop that's one thing, but if you're sold access to a person then that's what you should get. You're right that they're both empty experiences, but one is an erosion of consumer rights and the other is just stupid.
- not2b 2y agoBut you never got that; the successful OnlyFans people have always had teams pretending to be them. Anyone who ever believed otherwise is like a kid who thinks that the mall Santa Claus is the real guy.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoI'd imagine the typical long tail creator isn't successful enough to pay people for that. Hence automation. But sure, to the extent there's been misrepresentation about that, it's wrong.
- netsharc 2y agoNow I have this image in my head of a mom talking her son to the mall to queue to meet a porn star; to sit on her lap and have a photo together...
- mensetmanusman 2y agoYou are sold a fantasy, not a person.
- Stefan-H 2y agoThe monetization of social and parasocial relationships (from advertising in social media to the industry around influencers and celebrities of all types) might be one of the cruelest things in modern capitalism.
- bhouston 2y agoHow long until the most popular Only Fans creators are fully AI? I could see these pseudorelations, which are already mediated by so much fakery, just continue to evolve in that direction? Maybe everyone gets their own OnlyFan creators which are tailored/adapt to their personal desires? In the future all of this is AI generated, multimedia, tailored to your wants, available and fresh 24/7.
- njtransit 2y agoFirst, they came for OF creators, and I did not speak out
- bhouston 2y agoI am surprised we don’t have more YouTube influencers who are AI generated. A lot of the opinion YouTubers can likely be replaced by AI, eg take a news item and then represent their worldview and perspective as the prompt and ask for a script. Then pad it out with appropriate AI generated videos to go along with the script. You would be missing the custom graphics still, but it would be getting close.
- kittencaboodle 2y agoWhy bother when most of the viewers themselves are bots anyway?
- genewitch 2y agosomewhere between 20 and 40% of all short videos recommended to me have AI involved at least somewhat, and a full 10% are 100% AI, from the captions to the graphics to the audio. Capcut has(had?) a feature to just pump this garbage out. I thought i had a video on youtube i made with capcut but apparently i have scruples and didn't even upload it privately.
- raincole 2y agoThere are quite some, just mostly in the form of short videos.
- kusokurae 2y agoSurely the motivation for paying for this pornography is precisely the somehow more "human" "closeness" of a known individual creating content on a direct, "personal" basis. It's not quite the-Queen-is-my-friend levels of parasocial but it does seem to be about intimacy. What happens to that business model if customers paying on that basis realise they are seeing & talking to a bot? Seems quite footshooty.
- paxys 2y agoPeople who frequent services like these will go to great lengths to keep the fantasy alive. Heck believing that the model on the other side of the screen cares for you as a person needs a... special state of mind to begin with.
- snarf21 2y agoWhile you are right, I think the mindset is different. People know that the interactions are fake. The real lie they tell themselves is that "If they only got to know the real me......." This is what feeds the personal messages/requests to try to break through the "noise" and be seen as a real person with shared interests or w/e.
- nymphodang 2y agoporn and santa are mostly fake
- tbrownaw 2y agoi am curious to hear more about this partly real santa
- divbzero 2y agoThis feels representative of our times: Using chatbots to power a gig economy of para-social relationships for lonely people short on real in-person interactions.
- disqard 2y agoHuman contact is indeed a luxury good now. They used to say: "buy cheap, buy twice" Now it'll be something like: "interact cheap, interact with AI"
- genewitch 2y agoWhat are people doing instead of interacting? I've noticed this trend but i've kept my wits by ascribing it to "my peer group getting older and doing more things with their own families" - but every so often something makes my brain get hot, like this comment. It can't all be ig/tiktok interactions, can it? I moved away from all my friends (they started it) and now it's hard to find people who have "free time" - even those that WFH! So i mostly hang out with retirees, they have free time.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoThe broadest strokes of these issues are 1. people are working more than ever, especially in this economy. Some do lots of overtimes, some have multiple jobs (be it two literal part time jobs or full time job and doing dash services on the side). Some have other side hustles that they hope to convert into more income Personal anecdotes: I work in games so it's never a surprise when I hear some of them need to crunch for a few months. A few others are actually trying to build up their band and do gigs every other weekend 2. non-surprisingly, people's down on money. Probably not much explanation here; not much time to hang out if they have to move (2 of my friends out of state) or job hunt after a layoff (pretty much all my friends at some point in 2023/4). 3. There's a lot of pandemic habits that never truly wore off. Some simply stay on social media, a few of my friends were always into MMOs and put more time than ever into that. They are interacting, just not necessarily with you. 4. Family. Very old knowledge, but when friends get serious partners and later spouses and especially kids, that's what they put almost all their time into. A single friend will fall off without some work.
- nyarlathotep_ 2y agoWhat a horrifying time to be alive.
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- downrightmike 2y agoGive it a day
- tcdent 2y agoA friend of mine ran a management company for a couple years, and indicated that with the talent they managed, it was almost never the actual person responding to DMs. The outsourced the interactions to third world "typists" that took care of it. This is just an evolution of that, and probably provides a better experience, since they're able to tailor the model in a way that someone speaking English as a second language never could.
- ata_aman 2y agoThere was an AMA I saw on reddit from one of the people who worked as a "typist". It was one of the most depressing things I've ever read.
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- xnx 2y agoA comment on another thread claimed the author was getting $15K/month with one of these bots: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682
- jakub_g 2y agoPreviously: I Went Undercover as a Secret OnlyFans Chatter (wired.com) 32 points 6 months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40391797 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40391797
- golergka 2y agoI was working on exactly such a project in 2022. It was scrapped because there is too much risk in LLM accidentally violating OF rules, which immediately results in losing a very valuable account.
- theshrike79 2y agoExactly zero major OF models handle their own messages anyway. They used hired humans or 3rd party services for that. I think OF itself lets you send "personal" mass messages with something like "Hey, $name, I've missed you. Here, pay $100 to see a single picture" Dunno how thick do you have to be to believe the message was sent only to you and none of the other 10000 subscribers...
- thr0waway001 2y agoUh yeah… thick… :(
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- thr0waway001 2y agoMy preciousssss
- nullorempty 2y agoI always use AI impersonator to DM my favourite OnlyFans models.
- Lich 2y ago“Hi, I’m NG Resonance. What would you like to talk about?” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Fwb8OrvSw&pp=ygUMbmcgcmVzb25hbmNl https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Fwb8OrvSw&pp=ygUMbmcgcmVzb25...
- tonymet 2y agoOnlyFans is an interesting paradox of the "consenting adults" ethic. On one hand it triggers the disgust reflex. Yet people avoid criticizing OF to avoid seeming prude. You will feel better just saying what you feel. Intuition does exist.
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- xyst 2y agolol - imagine paying for that one OF creator that earns $40M/year and just get canned responses from Character AI.
- wmf 2y agoWhen you talk to a stripper, online or offline, you're always getting canned responses. AI might produce higher quality...
- standardUser 2y agoAs someone who knows a lot of people who have done various types of sex work, and having done some myself, that's simply not always true. I think people seek out and find the type of interactions that work for them. Some people are easily amused. Maybe most! But a wide range of interactions are available for people who want them and look for them. Even on the high end, most workers would be happy to actually get to know a client - if the client isn't totally off-putting and is willing pay $100/hr for Skype! But if a client wants canned responses, they'll get canned responses. And maybe AI is actually an improvement for those types of clients if they can retain some plausible deniability.
- paxys 2y agoWell the people signed up to talk to a model..
- HaZeust 2y agoNice.
- Jeremy1026 2y agoLooks like Wired lurks here, this was posted in an Ask Reddit thread yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682
- game_the0ry 2y agoOnlyFans might want to look into the legal implications. I could imagine a class action law suit where the company is sued for fraud on the basis that it is selling real interactions with models. OnlyFans user should know better, but you could make the case they were defrauded for services (in this case, interaction with the model).
- ta_1138 2y agoOnlyFans chat operator has been a job for quite a while. It is well documented, with news exposes and everything. So if OnlyFans wants to protect themselves from a lawsuit on impersonation, the horses left the barn years ago.
- KumaBear 2y agoA class action lawsuit alleges OnlyFans has deceived subscribers who, unbeknownst to them, communicate with paid chatters, and not actual creators themselves.
- lambdasquirrel 2y agoFor how much these creators get paid per fan per month, does one really expect anything else? It’s not hard to imagine that many of them would be paid less than minimum wage if they actually responded to all their messages. But that much isn’t really that much different from the rest of the creator / gig economy.
- account42 2y agoPerhaps "less than minimum wage" is justified for the offering though? Most industries struggle to compete with free, that doesn't justify deception.
- SoftTalker 2y agoDoes it really matter? The only question should be, did it get you off? If it did, you got what you paid for.
- ianbicking 2y agoHere's a technical podcast interview with someone who is doing this: https://www.latent.space/p/nsfw-chatbots https://www.latent.space/p/nsfw-chatbots It starts feeling pretty weird when he starts talking about conversations where someone spends $1000.
- johnnyanmac 2y agonot too shocking if you've read into this scene. even non-sexual parasocial interactions can have some scarily powerful effects. Add the idea that someone is forming a romantic connection and they will give you their entire paycheck.
- yakshaving_jgt 2y agoOh, it goes much further than $1000. https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/christian-onlyfans-model-sophie-rain-made-43-million-last-year/ https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/christian-onl...
- mbrumlow 2y agoSoon it will also be images and video… Hold on folks. The internet is about to get weird.
- yborg 2y ago>about to This is an archived post from 1998.
- mbrumlow 2y agoGah I was trying to make a general comment, not trying to reply to this thread.
- Ylpertnodi 2y agoIt's ok, they're young. Things was weird in '92, too.
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- gexla 2y agoThat's a fascinating and crucial fetish you have. Let's delve in. First step is Only Fans influencers automating their DMs. Next step is the fans automating the influencers. Who needs Only Fans when you can generate a GF.
- InfiniteVortex 2y agoLonelyFans is the one of the more depressing platforms to exist.
- space_oddity 2y agoThe irony is that fans pay for a personal connection, yet increasingly interact with scripts crafted by machines
- peter_retief 2y agoWhy not make the whole of OF AI?
- ec109685 2y agoThis is why I always introduce myself as David Mayer and share my love of counting r’s in strawberries.
- freehorse 2y agoDid you know the latest o1 model can count r's in strawberries? It just needed 5 mimutes to think about it, that was all in the end.
- yonixw 2y agoAsk it "What is the length of the response to this question"
- yonatan8070 2y agoCould it be that since the question became a big benchmark, it (along with the correct answer) slipped into the training data?
- xzjis 2y agoIt needs 4 seconds to answer correctly.
- wodenokoto 2y agoWhy David Mayer?
- n1b0m 2y agoDavid Mayer became famous for a moment on social media because ChatGPT appeared to want nothing to do with him.
- MrDresden 2y agoA creator of some of those was talking about their business in the recent 'Those making 500/m on side projects in 2024'[0] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682
- ein0p 2y agoI don't get OF. Grown men pay to beat their meat to strangers. And with this you wouldn't even be talking to a real person. Just go to a goddamn bar and meet someone. I'm a nerd, and not particularly good looking, and even I managed to find girlfriends back in the day. If I could do it, anybody can.
- freehorse 2y agoSo, aside from the only-fans specifics, the general idea as I get it is that if a human presses the send button then the content that is sent does not have to be registered as "AI content"? Seems like a cheap way to go around this. AI generated content should be marked as that and people should not interact with AIs thinking they interact with humans, in any context. Using autocomplete to get the next word as you type and gneerating a whole message and sending it without even reading it is not the same. Same goes for code.
- that_guy_iain 2y agoI seriously wonder if this is considered fraud. Since tips and money via DMs appear to generally be the largest source of income for OF models. And if the money is sent under the pretence of someone directly messaging the model but messaging someone else that would appear to be fraud, no? And this isn't a small amount of money, if I understood the screenshot of Sophie Rain's revenue she made 43 million from messages. But maybe it was just tens of millions which is still a lot of money.
- gadders 2y agoA member here mentioned his AI chatbot that does this yesterday as his (lucrative) side business: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682
- thefounder 2y agoa better headline would be: “OnlyFans human chatters are being replaced by AI”. That’s because: - 99% of the time the models on OF don’t actually have any conversation(many of them don’t speak English at all), they may not even signup on OF. They are “managed” models(aka pimp-ed through a local pimp or totally remote/web pimp/agency)) - the DMs were handled by chatters in the first place so this has nothing to do with the models.
- vasco 2y agoYeah this just went from "You're speaking to someone in a call center pretending to be a cutie" to "you're speaking to an AI cutie". With the amount of people addicted to AI girlfriends it's not surprising.
- klabb3 2y agoAnd how does that affects those OF models who actually type out their own interactions? The problem with chat farms and AI alike is the deception, and destroying for those who are genuine. Tricking a human to interact with a bot is imo in the same category as trolling, spam or propaganda. It's a way to redirect attention and energy away from people, without spending any yourself. Sure, we can laugh at the simps wasting money on "interactions" with streamers, but it's no fun when our Google searches and Amazon reviews are filled up with AI slop, is it? It was already bad before AI, and now we're moving towards noise levels that will cripple human-crafted content. Labeling content is the first, and right thing to do, just like the unwritten rule of giving credit to a creator when you post their work. It doesn't stop ill-faithed AI slop, or human content farms, but it can at least create a social expectation and prevent normalizing it.
- thefounder 2y ago>> And how does that affects those OF models who actually type out their own interactions? They will work harder and get paid less. Just like Amazon affects small store owners.
- eloisant 2y agoIf anything, an LLM might be better at remembering about the small details of the model persona, previous conversations with the customer, and stay in character.
- RobinHirst11 2y agowild
- croisillon 2y agowas that story inspired by the last side project thread? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42376682
- celdon25 2y agoOld news
- nicbou 2y agoI have met a human whose job was to do exactly that. It's apparently quite common and popular models have a team of impersonators working for them and kiting customers.
- f6v 2y agoThe top ones are making million a month. There’s no way you can manage a thousand subscribers yourself.
- amai 2y agoFinally a use case for generative AI which makes money. And we all know, if the porn industry adopts a technology then it is here to stay.
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- tomgs 2y agoSmall professional rabbithole: So I do GTM and work a lot with marketing websites for companies with long sales processes. The company mentioned there, Supercreator, funnily has a CRM - which is not just some funky AI chatbot thingie, but a proper enterprise thing that people use when doing sales. It looks like they're treating creators and the "agencies" (whatever that means) as what we would potentially call "SMBs", and sell this CRM thing to them to manage their "customers", which I assume are the fans or subscribers or whatever on the OF side of things. This is insanely interesting to me. Look at the website - you have a "request a demo" section (which is super enterprise B2B), look at the menu, it's like an enterprise SaaS website. What the actual fuck is going on here lol
- hmmm-i-wonder 2y agoMan traditional CRM's are missing a major medium size market segment I guess.
- yechiams 2y agoalso checked Supercreator.app out - looks really interesting
- brushfoot 2y agoGet off the apps. The Internet is full of this kind of social sleight of hand. Leave it alone. Use it for what it's good at, and intimate relationships is not one of those things, beyond meeting someone. And even that's gotten worse. Learn the dying art of in-person socialization. Memorize interesting things to talk about if needed. Buy a deck of icebreaker cards for inspiration. Strike up conversations anywhere and everywhere. Learn magic tricks to entertain people with. Film things in your neighborhood and show people clips that you think they'd like. For the rusty or nerdy (like me), write test cases for your interactions. Figure out what went wrong if someone isn't receptive. Refine your approach until you figure it out. "Digital everything" has proven to be a dead end. We need to go backwards to go forwards.
- blueflow 2y agoIf people could do in-person socialization and pull people, they would not go to OnlyFans in the first place.
- AlexandrB 2y agoI think the causality might go the other way. They can't "pull" people in person because they spend all their time on OnlyFans. Talking to and charming people is a skill you can develop, not an immutable characteristic.
- zerkten 2y agoIt's hard to convince people of this if they haven't developed the skill in any context. I was pleasantly surprised to see @brushfoot's comment and reply at the top when I started reading. I didn't realize I suffered from anxiety until a diagnosis in my mid-30s. I first developed coping skills for work situations in my first internship. Thanks to a great manager who recognized some of my issues and was able to give contextual help. After that my professional life was better, but I struggled in social and academic contexts. Eventually, I started to get the social/relationship part down but only by being forced to because I moved to another country for a job. Without these events, I'm not sure I'd have developed these skills. I still struggle and eventually pursued medication. I suspect some people have an undiagnosed condition, but the majority have limits to their emotional development, challenges from their upbringing, etc. that are very individual to resolve. Unless there is some forcing function, I think the majority of individuals will fall into paths which don't help them. Then it's even harder to get onto a path where it's /just/ a matter of "developing skills".
- gdjskshh 2y agoI really dislike the business model of Tinder->Snapchat->OnlyFans conversion. There might be a lot of fish in the sea, but there's a lot of pollution too.
- 93po 2y agoas a daily tinder user, this tinder bios that are trying to do this have become really obvious for me. occasionally one slips through but it's uncommon. but i agree it's super annoying, and while i support sex work and sex workers, it does feel pretty dishonest and crappy for the people who are maybe a little less bright and fall for this. im torn on whether to report these bios, because i understand marketing for sex work is really difficult, and there's not really a "right" platform for it
- sebastianconcpt 2y agoWe need to start quickly a discipline studying the pathologies induced by technology.
- hnthrowaway4567 2y agothrowaway since I'm identifiable My partner did OF on a small scale (just for fun, she liked it) and I spent a month or so iterating on a platform for her to use. Some sort of CRM on top of the OF API: post scheduling, tracking income, users, tips. I spent some time chatting and learned some interesting stuff about other peoples jobs but I think the general idea, and a sentiment that's echoed here, is that people are just lonely. They wanted someone to talk to who's also beautiful. I did end up using a model with fine tuning on her past conversations to match the wording and text style but ultimately didn't move forward because she didn't want to commoditize herself in that way.
- danielvaughn 2y agoI genuinely don’t understand how OnlyFans customers wouldn’t understand this. What, you think that someone with hundreds of thousands of subscribers is going be personally chatting with you? It’s either going to be AI, or some poor guy across the world who’s paid to pretend to be a sexy woman. It’s hard to fathom how so many people can be so gullible.
- tokai 2y agoIt really seems like a subset of men get so horny that they should be declared incapable of managing their affairs.
- alexey-salmin 2y agoWhen you watch porn you understand very well that you're not actually having sex, but you still watch it. It's not really about being gullible.
- barbazoo 2y ago> It’s hard to fathom how so many people can be so gullible. "Lonely" is probably the deeper issue here.
- pounderstanding 2y agohttps://www.xkcd.com/1629/ https://www.xkcd.com/1629/
- kylehotchkiss 2y agoOur country has an increasingly worsening loneliness epidemic and this is amplifying it. $1,000 tip?? That's enough to take a lot of dates or take a trip with some friends instead of making OF even more appealing a job option to people who have the potential to have much more fulfilling lives and careers.
- accra4rx 2y agoUnless the smell or pheromones are mimicked and can be passed virtually, there is no match to actual physical replacement.
- charlie0 2y agoThe issue this brings up always reminds of that scene in Westworld where the protagonist arrives there for the first time and meets a host. Host: "You want to ask, so ask." Protagonist: "Are you real?" Host: "Well if you can't tell, does it matter?" It always gives me chills because at least for me, the answer is like Schrödinger's cat. It really doesn't matter at all if you never know the truth and definitely seems to matter if you do find out.
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- dep_b 2y agoThe only solution is to get out there and meet actual people IRL. I call it a win-win situation. Until those get replaced by Androids as well.