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Tesla recalls all cybertrucks for faulty accelerator pedals
- formerly_proven 2y ago[flagged]
- socar 2y agoElon: "Move fast and break things, we need to push and make stuff fast" Also elon when ass on fire: "unapproved change introduced..." comedy gold
- frob 2y ago"At this point I think I know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on Earth."
- fabian2k 2y agoEven without that it seems a bit dubious to not have any other mechanism to keep the pad and pedal together. So even without the soap this could be a problem, just maybe would have taken a bit longer until it appeared.
- Ekaros 2y agoYes, I thought same some adhesive alone does not feel enough for me. Why not some fasteners or some sort of clipping mechanism?
- floatrock 2y agoNo, that's a CYA explanation. A proper fault-tolerant design would prevent a minor process failure like this from having such a cascading impact. The twitter videos showed the pedal is an A-shaped design, built so the decorative steel veneer slides up and down to attach to the pedal body. The pedal jamming happens when this veneer detaches and slides up, locking the half-attached pedal against the footboard. Putting aside the whole discussion about cheaping out on pedal materials and going with a pretty veneer, a fault-tolerant design would assume eventually the veneer could come loose, and the attachment path would be built in a way that a pedal jam would be physically impossible. This is a royal fuckup on prioritizing potemkin styling on the one of the few parts of a car you don't fuck around with.
- 113 2y agoIt looks like all the time spent designing the car went into quirky extras and not the core features.
- _ea1k 2y agoA few years ago, Nissan had a recall because a tech had swapped torque drivers, so two parts were getting the wrong torque applied. I'm a little surprised that subtleties like that don't happen more often, tbh. Factories are amazingly well controlled environments. Then again, why wouldn't a part like this be staked?
- nurple 2y agoIs Boeing assembling these?
- hnbad 2y agoMKBHD literally said that the driver side door came off on his car so the parallels are striking. He did say that this was a good thing because it meant the panel gap wasn't due to poor tolerances but due to the door not being properly attached and that Elon said this particular problem only affected 15 cars (and Elon famously knows the exact problems of each individual car so this in no way means only 15 people have reported the issue to Tesla that he knows of or wants to talk about). Certainly an iconic vehicle.
- bparsons 2y agoIconic like the Titanic.
- nurple 2y agoI just thought it was amusing that Beoing had also found techs inappropriately using dish soap to fit seals on doors during the plug fiasco[0]. 0: https://www.businessinsider.com/faa-boeing-spirit-aerosystems-dawn-soap-door-seal-737-max-2024-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/faa-boeing-spirit-aerosystem...
- tommoor 2y agoThis is a good explainer video: https://twitter.com/garageklub/status/1779571445930324456 https://twitter.com/garageklub/status/1779571445930324456
- jejeyyy77 2y agointeresting. fortunately seems like a simple fix.
- ProjectArcturis 2y agoAt least they've only sold 3800 so far. But what are the odds this is the only thing that will need to be recalled?
- tehlike 2y agoFirst year of New models from any manufacturer will have issues to iron out
- bitcharmer 2y agoSure but what calibre of issues should you expect? Surely not faulty pedals causing the vehicle to accelerate.
- ripjaygn 2y agoToyota's wheels have been literally falling off their cars. https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/24/cars/toyota-bz4x-tundra-recall/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/24/cars/toyota-bz4x-tundra-recal... What is their reputation on reliability on here? How many decades have they been making cars compared and how mature is their manufacturing process? You just don't hear about other carmakers' recalls on here, so everyone makes those assumptions you just did, that Tesla is disproportionately bad with quality issues..
- mcculley 2y agoDisproportionately? Does Tesla ship as many vehicles as Toyota? You have made me curious about the numbers you are using.
- ripjaygn 2y agoTesla doesn't even register in the top 10 most recalls per car company in 2023. https://i.imgur.com/bygtzk2.png https://i.imgur.com/bygtzk2.png What data are you using? How many of Ford Motor's 58 recalls in 2023 made HN's front page? Meanwhile Tesla updates the car UIs icon sizes via a software update, and there are headlines all over the media including HN stating that Tesla recalled millions of cars, omitting that it was a software update. That makes people like the GP think Teslas have disproportionately worse issues, which appears to be the objective.
- yreg 2y agoWorrisome, but good that it got caught before anyone got into an accident. The issue shouldn't be present in all trucks, but better to recall all of them to be safe. BTW: What happens if you fully press both the acceleration and brake pedals? I would hope for the brakes to be more powerful and stop the car, is that the case?
- zaroth 2y agoSince the accelerator is drive by wire, pushing both pedals disables the accelerator, and produces a warning chime and alert message on the screen. The brakes do not have to be stronger, it’s handled in software. If the accelerator is pinned down, letting up on the brake will cause the car to start accelerating again. So you have to keep on the brake and then put the car in park. Pressing the accelerator while in park does nothing.
- techdmn 2y ago> pushing both pedals disables the accelerator Much to the frustration of those of us who occasionally engage in some left-foot braking. (Though TBH in my experience it's usually more effective in FWD cars.)
- jandrese 2y agoWhat is the point of heel-toe or left foot braking if there is no gearbox to rev match?
- techdmn 2y agoI like the left-foot jab jab jab to induce a slide while still on the power. I've read about other mixed input strategies, but that was the only one I was ever able to pull off to my satisfaction.
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- fergie 2y agoApparently the brake overrides the accelerator, so if you keep your calm, you can come to a stop.
- darthrupert 2y agoTesla Cybertruck: "if you keep your calm, you can stop"
- _ea1k 2y agoYes, this is the case on every production vehicle. People don't always realize it, though, and fail to push the brake all the way and hold it.
- jandrese 2y agoThat's not quite the same. In Tesla hitting the brakes kills power to the motor. In an ICE car this is not the case, and if the engine is running away it can bleed off vacuum and you lose your brake assist. So if someone panics and starts pumping the brake pedal they end up in a runaway acceleration scenario until they remember that neutral exists. In the real world runaway acceleration cases are extremely rare and always involve a degree of operator error, but they make for exciting headlines so people get the wrong idea about how common they are.
- giarc 2y ago"until they remember that neutral exists." Or they can just turn the ignition off. When I was 16 and took driving school, we did this as an exercise. The instructor just simply reached over and turned the key and I had to walk through starting it again (I can't remember if we pulled over or not). I wonder what would happen to a push button start car if you just pushed it while in motion?
- _ea1k 2y agoI think you may have to hold it down to force it to stop, but this isn't something that I've tried.
- zelias 2y agoI guess the budget for QA went straight into Elon's pay package
- ripjaygn 2y agoHis salary from Tesla's bank accounts is zero. Companies don't have their market cap in their bank accounts as cash which they use to pay executives. Also, not like other automakers don't have recalls like this. You just don't hear about it here because... reasons. The legendary name for quality, Toyota had its wheels literally falling off.
- malfist 2y agoAye, Tesla pays him nothing, that's why his compensation package was struck down in court?
- ripjaygn 2y agoYes. > Tesla noted that since 2018, Musk hasn't drawn any compensation, including salary or cash bonuses His stock compensation was performance based/ > Shareholders approved Musk’s pay package back in 2018. However, according to an Axios report, very few investors at the time believed that they would have to pay out on it. That’s because the compensation plan was tied to extreme performance goals that seemed improbable Therefore, at the time, the expected value of the Tesla pay package was “closer to zero than it was to $56 billion” You cannot pay for auto parts quality with stock options that pay out only when 'extreme peformance goals' are hit. So Musk's salary had pretty much zero impact on this recall, unlike, say, other company car recalls which they could have presumably used the company CEO's salary to prevent the recalls, going by the assumption that the OP was making.
- WrongAssumption 2y agoHis compensation was in stock options.
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- chollida1 2y ago> . After performing a series of tests, it decided on April 12 to issue a recall after determining that an “[a]n unapproved change introduced lubricant (soap) to aid in the component assembly of the pad onto the accelerator pedal,” and that “[r]esidual lubricant reduced the retention of the pad to the pedal.” How do you have so little quality control and insight into your manufacturing process that someone on your own production line can introduce a new step to your truck manufacturing process that no one noticed? I guess when analysts said the incumbent auto manufacturers would have a large advantage over Tesla in manufacturing, this is what they meant? Because this looks like a very unprofessional error to have made for a company that has done well up until now.
- htrp 2y ago>How do you have so little quality control and insight into your manufacturing process that someone on your own production line can introduce a new step to your truck manufacturing process that no one noticed? That's legal covering the company. I'd bet this was just a general design flaw.
- bitmasher9 2y agoTo me both sound plausible (that the process was added, and that it’s a fabricated story). Either way we will never know, and ultimately it’s Tesla’s responsibility to make sure the accelerator pedal doesn’t get suck in the on position due to manufacturing defects.
- smith7018 2y agoWe’ll find out in discovery if a lawsuit around this ever happens, I suppose
- chrisjj 2y ago> That's legal covering the company. Er, how does it cover the company? Company is responsible regardless.
- Ekaros 2y ago
- blindstitch 2y agoGood thing this shit isn't street legal in the EU. They at least have some amount of will to enforce basic car design safety.
- IshKebab 2y agoDon't worry, Tesla's next car will be a lot safer: https://www.imcdb.org/i733450.jpg https://www.imcdb.org/i733450.jpg
- superultra 2y agoIt feels like web community’s reponse to Elon Inc businesses, including Tesla and SpaceX, is frequently a double standard. By that I mean that Tesla gets a hall pass on crucial QC detail work because they’re iterating or ironing out the detail as if it’s a web app. Meanwhile I’m not so sure the same leniency applies to Chevy or Toyota or whatever. I don’t deny that iteration is a crucial process. Also I’m not advocating for a hall pass for big auto. I just think this is a really big oversight and mistake. When you’re dealing with software that doesn’t directly impact lives, go ahead: break stuff. But when we’re talking about big ass trucks on roads, there should be a harsh response to a recall like this.
- brandonagr2 2y agoWhat hall pass? It's the opposite, the media blows a minor issue at Tesla out of proportion, while there are no national headlines about Fords or Jeeps getting recalled for bursting into flames https://www.powernationtv.com/post/auto-brands-with-the-most-recalls-2023 https://www.powernationtv.com/post/auto-brands-with-the-most...
- superultra 2y agoNot sure that's true. I have a Chevy Bolt and when those were exploding (lol), it was all over the news. So much so that there are still parking garages that won't let you park a Bolt in the garage.
- rootusrootus 2y agoWe heard a lot about Toyota bz4x lug nuts and that recall was smaller than this cybertruck recall.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 2y agoHow long did it take Toyota to troubleshoot the issue, fix it and restart the problem? How does that compare?
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- helsinkiandrew 2y agoOne of the most frightening moments of my early life was when the accelerator peddle got stuck (actually one of the connecting rods) going into a roundabout, fairly recently after passing my driving test. I couldn't figure out why I was speeding up even when breaking hard. But somehow I managed to maintain control and put the gear into neutral - and then sat at the edge of the roundabout with the engine screaming at full throttle before I figured out what was wrong and turned off the ignition. Wouldn't want to be in a Cybertruck with that happening.
- brandonagr2 2y agoYou would want to be in a Cybertruck, when you press the brake pedal it auto overrides the accelerator pedal. Being in a Cybertruck with a stuck accel pedal is way safer than in a traditional truck
- danparsonson 2y agoExcept it's all fly by wire so you're relying on the software to be bug free and I'd honestly rather trust physics.
- lucianbr 2y agoThere is no "physics", unless you're relying on falling fast without a parachute or something like that. In this case you're relying on mechanics to be bug free as opposed to software. To imply that any car is designed and built in such a way that it can only fail if physics itself fails is rather arrogant. There are comments here in the thread pointing to the long lists of bugs with non-drive-by-wire cars. Mechanics may well be easier to design correctly and test, sure. But get out with "physics".
- danparsonson 2y ago> To imply that any car is designed and built in such a way that it can only fail if physics itself fails is rather arrogant You're putting words in my mouth. All I'm saying is that direct physical connections between things are much more reliable and straightforward than software connections between things. Of course no system is perfect.
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- somenameforme 2y agoI was curious how frequently automakers have recalls, because it seems to me that Elon linked companies tend to get treated 'differently' by the media. The answer was extremely surprising. Here is a list. [1] Just in 2022: Ford - 67 Volkswagen - 46 Daimler Trucks North America - 42 Chrysler - 38 Mercedes Benz - 34 GM - 32 Kia - 24 Hyundai - 22 Tesla - 20 BMW - 20 Pretty wild, because these rarely if ever make the news. [1] - https://www.carpro.com/blog/automakers-with-the-most-recalls-in-2022 https://www.carpro.com/blog/automakers-with-the-most-recalls...
- jandrese 2y agoIt should also be noted that most of those Tesla "recalls" are over the air software updates that happen automatically. This one is noteworthy because the owners have to physically bring their vehicle to the service center.
- athorax 2y agoThat is objectively not true https://www.tesla.com/support/annual-and-recall-service https://www.tesla.com/support/annual-and-recall-service
- jandrese 2y agoYou are right. This makes it 9 of the 20 that were just software updates.
- rootusrootus 2y agoWell that puts a damper on the oft-stated claim that Tesla makes superior software. Sounds like they are relying on their frequent OTA updates to allow them to half-ass the initial design and just fix it later.
- jandrese 2y agoTrue, but that ends up comparing not so bad to traditional car makers that half-ass their software and then never update it.
- aynyc 2y agoCan you put cybertruck in neutral? That's the SOP for ICE cars if accelerator is stuck.
- martin_ 2y agoNo but the brake pedal overrides the accelerator. Of course, EV’s accelerate fast so you likely don’t have much time to react
- hinkley 2y agoThe video in thread says park also overrides the accelerator.
- voidUpdate 2y agoElectric cars don't have a gearbox that you can put into neutral
- anticensor 2y agoThey have a reverser switch and neutral cuts off the power to the engine, forward excites windings in one way, reverse in the opposite way
- ksherlock 2y agoYes; there's no gearstalk but you can set p/r/n/d via the buttons on the overhead console, or on the touchscreen.
- lucianbr 2y agoGranted, this isn't a usual occurence so maybe not a reasonable use case for the design. But man, when accelerating at max power due to a glitch, you need to look at the touchscreen to find the right place to slide your finger to switch to neutral... I thougt having touch controls for climate was bad.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
- phkahler 2y agoThis is why having a dealer network is important, if annoying. Tesla has been a leader in having a "software defined car" so lots of problems can be fixed via over the air updates. They should be glad this issue was found early and not after 5 years and 2 million vehicles on the road.
- rstupek 2y agoTesla has service centers to deal with these do they not? Not sure how dealers makes it any easier to manage the recall
- kube-system 2y agoTraditional automakers have more dealers than Tesla has service centers. Tesla service is known for long wait times. Ford, for example, has 15x as many locations to get your vehicle serviced.
- bink 2y agoA bit unfair to compare Tesla to a company that's built a dealer network over 100+ years.
- Qwertious 2y agoThey're competing in the same market, people expect the same quality.
- kube-system 2y agoFairness has nothing to do with anything here. First of all, it's the reality of having a Tesla worked on, regardless of blame. Second, Tesla's lack of a US dealer network is very intentional and they've fought very hard against the legal status quo to avoid having one at all.
- TheBigSalad 2y agobut it wouldn't be a big issue if it went 5 years unnoticed.
- hn1986 2y agoAny idea why this is flagged?
- dang 2y agoMost likely because there have been oodles of low-quality stories on these topics. We turned the flags off on this one since it maybe rises above the noise (see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22significant%20new%20information%22%20by%3Adang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... for past explanations on how we approach that).
- dazc 2y agoFor context, worse things happen at sea... https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/01/royal-navy-orders-investigation-into-nuclear-submarine-repaired-with-glue https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/01/royal-navy-o...
- vzaliva 2y agoThe most interesting part of this news is that it gives is the exact number of Cybertrucks sold so far. It is under 4000.
- jtriangle 2y agoAre all 4000 of those even delivered? Last I checked they were basically bespoke at this point.
- hacker_88 2y agoAre these all 100k$ above
- _ea1k 2y agoYes, all foundation series at >$100k.
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- offsky 2y agoThis is surprising to me too because I saw 3 different Cybertrucks on the road yesterday. I guess I live in a hot zone.
- jejeyyy77 2y agothats the number produced, which is the bottleneck
- 1970-01-01 2y ago>Tesla is recalling all 3,878 So one of the smallest recalls in recent history? I understand that this company, its CEO, and this vehicle in question are all controversial, however the levels of attention coming from media are getting to be a bit too much. If you look at NHTSA's data and take a data-driven approach (just sort by potentially affected), you will find this to be quite normal. https://datahub.transportation.gov/Automobiles/NHTSA-Recalls-by-Manufacturer/mu99-t4jn https://datahub.transportation.gov/Automobiles/NHTSA-Recalls...
- fullshark 2y agoSo they shouldn't have published a story on this? Shouldn't have used the word "all?" What exactly are you complaining about? Just that the "lol Musk" media clickbait factory is lame? Cause this seems newsworthy to me and I don't find fault with the story published here.
- 1970-01-01 2y agoYeah, it's the clickbait. Every step and mis-step Tesla has is criticized beyond what I think is reasonable amounts. It's just sloppy journalism and clickbait.
- fullshark 2y agoThere's a ton of that crap no doubt, and I'm sure this recall will produce more of it, but this news story and headline seems totally fine to me.
- kredd 2y agoI have absolutely no skin in the game, but to my understanding Tesla’s entire valuation heavily depends on being constant news cycles. It has positive impacts (like gigantic growth rate with limited marketing in the past 10 years) and negatives (any mistake gets chewed by the media).
- post_break 2y agoSuzuki recalled a single car: https://japanesenostalgiccar.com/news-suzuki-issues-recall-for-single-cappuccino/ https://japanesenostalgiccar.com/news-suzuki-issues-recall-f...
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- wnevets 2y agoWill there be a recall for a car wash being able to destroy the cybertruck? [1] [1] https://twitter.com/StonkKing4/status/1780306557538050532 https://twitter.com/StonkKing4/status/1780306557538050532
- bugbuddy 2y agoIf this problem is real and serious, meaning the damage is expensive to repair, this could destroy Tesla’s reputation and valuation.
- wnevets 2y agoSupposedly it broke the entire truck and they voided his warranty. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/StonkKing4/status/1780303955811278884 https://twitter.com/StonkKing4/status/1780303955811278884
- walthamstow 2y agoJesus... "Do not wash in direct sunlight"
- hinkley 2y agoDidn’t listen to the blind old Chinese man that sold it to him I guess.
- tpmoney 2y agoThat’s pretty standard advice for washing any car. A lot of the chemicals in the soaps and polishes and waxes you use you don’t want drying on the surface of your paint, or at least not in the quantities you apply it in. But if you’re washing in direct sunlight, there’s a high chance the water will evaporate and leave dried residues before you get to rinsing / buffing it away.
- _ea1k 2y agoYep, just standard detailer wisdom. Washing in direct sunlight requires extra care, especially when using chemicals that aren't ph-neutral.
- kernal 2y agoThis would not have been a serious problem had the lower back of the pedal footwell section been flush with the upper back section. How this design was able to pass QA is baffling.
- mig39 2y ago"Recall all Cybertrucks" isn't a huge deal. How many have they sold? 3000? 4000?
- rootusrootus 2y agoHuge, no. But "all" is where it becomes halfway newsworthy. Other manufacturers have made the news for smaller recalls, so this is pretty normal. Toyota, for example, when they recalled the bz4x.
- DudeOpotomus 2y agoThe videos of this issue are telling. Extremely poor design. With something as simple as a peddle, its almost unfathomable.
- smokedetector1 2y agointeresting that this hasn't caused a significant stock slide. Does that mean that the expectation for failures and mishaps is already priced in?
- darkwizard42 2y agoCar manufacturers have quite a few recalls like this. Some of Tesla's are even OTA fixes but require a "recall" to be announced. I think given the small volume of Cybertrucks in circulation AND the low volume being produced this has negligible effect on their bottom line of deliveries and revenues.
- _ea1k 2y agoEven if Tesla's rosiest projections for CT were true, it'd be less than 20% of unit volume. Reality might be under 15%. It doesn't really move the needle either way.
- ck2 2y agobtw whatever happened with Toyota's "Spaghetti Code" accelerator? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unintended_acceleration#Sudden_acceleration_in_Toyota_vehicles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unintended_acceleration...
- hinkley 2y agoFriction fit handlebar grips for mountain bikes, cruisers and kids bikes have a similar installation problem. Bike mechanics use hairspray to solve it. Slick when initially sprayed, tacky when dry. Also the solvent in more hairspray can be used to subsequently remove them.
- jtriangle 2y agoI've always prefered spit and yelling... so this is a good tip
- hinkley 2y agoMountain bikes tend to be ridden wet, so soap is a big no no. But yes, saliva if you can’t figure out where the can of AquaNet went.
- timemct 2y agoThe air compressor trick works great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6SsqBcpXZU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6SsqBcpXZU
- wunderland 2y agoA guy posted a video of his accelerator pedal getting stuck in the fully down position to all of the relevant subreddits (r/tesla, etc) and was banned from posting in all of them. https://twitter.com/elaifresh/status/1779600432085819708?s=46 https://twitter.com/elaifresh/status/1779600432085819708?s=4... These forums are all moderated by Tesla, or is it Elon fanboys who refuse to accept any criticism?
- steveBK123 2y agoIt's a cult, worst than peak Steve Jobs distortion field era for those that lived through both. I say this as an Apple user and former Tesla driver..
- speedgoose 2y agoTesla private investors is my guess. Here is a message they use to spam regularly on the main r/teslamotors subreddit: > To the critics, we ask you to remember that many people in this sub not only believe in what Tesla is doing, but have voted with their money. https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/wiki/automoderator-schedule?v=deb8a53e-35ad-11eb-acf3-0e98b6cc54f3 https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/wiki/automoderator-sche...
- leesec 2y agoNothing bad happened here and they caught an issue without any incident or injury. I wonder if there will ever be a day where Hackernews isn't actively rooting for the downfall of innovative technology companies
- throwaway5959 2y agoTesla is no longer a leader in innovation, their vehicles couldn’t even do V2L/V2G until the CyberTruck.
- jacktribe 2y ago48v is a pretty big leap forward that I bet other automakers will replicate. So is assembling the interior (seats, console, etc.) onto the battery and lifting it into the vehicle. Also, the rigid wire harness that can be snapped in by robotic arms. The list goes on. I recommend watching some of the teardown videos.
- throwaway5959 2y agoMunro is transparently biased at this point.
- ryzvonusef 2y agoSo don't listen to them, listen to Caresoft, their competitor in teardown and benchmarking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRRDEVpCHPI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRRDEVpCHPI
- leesec 2y agoDon't even know how to respond to this lol. Their EV's are head and shoulders above the competition
- throwaway5959 2y agoDon’t even know how to respond to this because no facts were presented.
- ccorcos 2y agoIronically, they could’ve used glue instead of soap with no delay in assembly time
- MBCook 2y agoOr designed it with simple snaps.
- royaltjames 2y agoMy dad lives by using dish soap to lube up hoses and other connectors. This has that vibe.
- cs702 2y agoSee also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40040100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40040100 To repeat what I wrote on that post, this is all 100% explainable by Tesla's sacred five-step algorithm for manufacturing[a]: 1. Make the requirements less dumb: "All designs are wrong, it’s just a matter of how wrong." - Musk 2. Try and delete parts (that seem unnecessary): "If parts are not being added back into the design at least 10% of the time, not enough parts are being deleted." - Musk 3. Simplify or optimize: "The most common error of a smart engineer is to optimize something that should not exist." - Musk 4. Accelerate cycle time: "You're moving too slowly, go faster! But don’t go faster until you’ve worked on the other three things first." - Musk 5. Finally, as a last step, automate. "I've made the mistake of going backwards on all five steps." - Musk Evidently the accelerator pedal issue was caused by step #2: At some point, the Cybertruck team at Tesla questioned the requirement to securely tighten the metal plate covering the accelerator pedal, and somehow concluded it seemed unnecessary. Now they have to add it back! --- [a] https://evannex.com/blogs/news/elon-musk-reveals-his-5-step-protocol-for-engineering https://evannex.com/blogs/news/elon-musk-reveals-his-5-step-...
- CamperBob2 2y agoAnd from somewhere far above or below us, 'Mad Man' Muntz, wire cutters still in his hand, smiles at Elon.
- cs702 2y agoThanks for that. I laughed out loud at "far above or below us".
- JohnMakin 2y agoIt's truly wild to me that people will pay upwards of $100k to be beta-testers for a several thousand pound machine easily capable of killing them or others
- hacker_88 2y agoRelax , it is just an OTA . not this time
- cdme 2y agoIs it surprising that a company that thought a vehicle this absurd was a good idea to build would also suffer from quality control issues?
- CatWChainsaw 2y agoAt this point I wonder if Musk is so insecure about anyone being him at anything that he decided to pick on Boeing.
- aaroninsf 2y agoHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha whew. Move fast and break things, ketamine-fueled edition!
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- greenish_shores 2y agoUnapproved lubricant... well. Exactly the same, and also in throttle control input, caused (albeit together with software having problems handling the issue) a total control loss in Airbus A320, during a training flight in 2018 in Estonia. It resulted in a crash landing - they barely landed the plane in a way in which they could walk away from the landing, and the plane got destroyed. Incident report: https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ES-SAN-Final-Report.pdf https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/1... Also Mentour Pilot did a pretty good video explaining all causes, including the software issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04M63B1sv_Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04M63B1sv_Y
- djcannabiz 2y agoI second the video recommendation, mentor makes some of the better documentary style content on the app. the fact that it’s completely free makes it even crazier!
- greenish_shores 2y agoYeah I like his content too, but I'm far from revering him this way (and I see a lot of comments like yours). By the way I also respect how good he is at monetizing this, however... Internet both as a technology and even more as a community was founded by scientists whom were a bit later joined by (also often same people were doing both) people doing and creating things non-commercially, as a hobby, because they simply enjoy them, and so on (I'm speaking mostly of Usenet newsgroups in the latter part, as the early form of that). I don't see how (consensually) sharing content for free is "crazy". That's just the way, the Internet way. Maybe it's just the demographic cohort of enjoyers of his content largely overlaps with the cohort of customers of commercial video streaming platforms which creates a feeling like that.
- throwaway5959 2y agoStick a fork in it. It’s done.
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