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Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey
- t-3 4y agoNot so surprising, as someone who was recently in their 20s. Dating is old fashioned and very consumeristic/wealth oriented. I've also never been on a date, because my social strata only goes out to party, not to eat at expensive restaurants with dress codes and shit, or theaters with $20 popcorn. We have kitchens and netflix.
- snapcaster 4y agoI'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Is your point that you still have romantic interactions with your preferred sex but that it isn't in the "dating" form? Or are you saying the entire thing is old fashioned and something you're uninterested in?
- brnt 4y agoDoes a date imply going somewhere? Most of my dates were at mine or other party's home, and we'd describe them as "dates".
- t-3 4y agoYeah, in my view, going on a date means going out to in a one-on-one format. Going to each others' house is just normal friend stuff, with the only difference from hanging out with my same-sex friends being sexual activity.
- psyc 4y agoAre you telling us that kids these days don't have boyfriends and girlfriends? Just fuck buddies? The biological phenomenon of falling in love evolved out of the species in one generation? I don't believe it.
- brnt 4y agoI can only say that round these parts, dates are not defined such, and are not at all about consumption.
- mahmutc 4y agoWho knows what does it mean exactly for participants? :)
- StillBored 4y agoThis is more about interest. Two opposite sex unattached adults hanging out alone with each other will probably progress to dating if it goes on long enough unless there is something explicitly wrong with a sexual relationship (aka one person doesn't have a normal sexual drive/whatever). AKA, there may be sexual interest simply due to the lack of immediate alternatives but neither party knows how to express it outright, so the flirting and hanging out together becomes more overt until its clear to both parties. (PS: This is sorta why you don't see a lot of married opposite sex people "hanging out" alone in private. There is an understanding that your putting both people in a position of temptation, or if nothing else the situation definitely fires up the rumor mill because frankly there is a high incidence of cheating, and this is one of the clearer ways this happens. ).
- wfhordie 4y agoMost Japanese live in cities. Japanese homes in cities are very small. Most of Japanese night life is lived outside the home.
- nine_zeros 4y agoInteresting. What does going on a "date" even mean these days?
- 2000UltraDeluxe 4y agoGood question. I was married AND divorced far before I went on my first date. The general issue, however, is widespread loneliness.
- sorokod 4y ago"go out with (someone in whom one is romantically or sexually interested)"
- yobbo 4y ago> We have kitchens and netflix. Well that's also a date. Do you think respondents misunderstand the word?
- fsociety 4y agoWell, that’s just like your opinion man. Some of the best dates I have been on have been dinner at home, picnic in a park or at the beach, hiking, etc. Just do not attract people looking to relationships to fill their financial needs.
- twox2 4y agoAgreed. A date = two people spending some time getting to know each other to see if there is romantic (or sexual) compatibility. Don't need to read to far into it.
- al_borland 4y agoA date and be a walk in the park with a picnic lunch. It doesn’t have to cost money.
- Dma54rhs 4y agoDating doesn't mean going to a restaurant. I'm pretty sure for most of three peole Netflix at home is dating.
- tremon 4y agoSame here (European, btw, not Japanese). I've only ever been on one "date" in my lifetime. The rest of my mating life has always been in the context of friend groups, rather than 1:1 meetings in some public place. Things that I have done that I don't consider a date: - meeting up at a friends' house while both knowing the other would be there, then leaving together afterwards (not 1:1) - just meeting up after class/work and spending the evening together (not an event) - accompanying each other to some mutual friend's event (concert/dj gig, party, theatre show) (not 1:1) - going to the movies with a friend because her boyfriend wasn't into horror, but I was (1:1, and an event, but no romantic intent) - inviting each other over for game/movie nights with friends (not 1:1) - making plans together (e.g. for music festivals, concerts, sports events) and inviting friends along for added fun (not 1:1) - going out for dinner together while we're already going steady (strictly speaking it's a date, but not in the context of "dating")
- oneoff786 4y agoHow is going out to dinner with your steady partner not the most unambiguous example of a date?
- Broken_Hippo 4y agoI've gone out to dinner with my mother and long-term friends, but I'm not dating any of them. Sometimes eating is just eating.
- oneoff786 4y agoEmphasis on with your steady partner
- Broken_Hippo 4y agoMy steady partner is a long-term friend. Not everything is sexual or dating just because we are, in fact, in a relationship that includes sex. Sometimes eating is just eating.
- vorpalhex 4y agoMy dates pre-marriage with my current wife were one of us would pack two lunches (spaghetti was a common one) and meet up on campus and eat together in the cafeteria. Almost every week.
- tablespoon 4y ago> Not so surprising, as someone who was recently in their 20s. Dating is old fashioned and very consumeristic/wealth oriented. I've also never been on a date, because my social strata only goes out to party, not to eat at expensive restaurants with dress codes and shit, or theaters with $20 popcorn. We have kitchens and netflix. I don't know what any of that has to do with anything. It feels like a perspective overly influenced by depictions in movies and TV [1]. A date is literally just getting together with someone who is or could be a romantic partner. [1] Which present fake or highly distorted pictures of reality for entertainment purposes. Compare a "high school movie" to your actual experience in high school. It's very likely that the former is completely unrepresentative, because most people lead lives that aren't tailored for spectators.
- LinuxBender 4y agoJapan's population has been in decline for a while [1] and there may be other compounding factors. Adding a video that can does a good job explaining this. A lack of dating will add to this problem. [1] - https://youtu.be/qcNhqYBr2To?t=9 https://youtu.be/qcNhqYBr2To?t=9 [video] [skipping ad]
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- Overtonwindow 4y agoI don’t know that much about Japan, so forgive me, but I was under the impression that in Japan there was a lot of shame attached to sex, and sexuality. Could the view on sex, particularly casual sex, impact dating?
- bashmelek 4y agoI’d actually take the opposite approach—-keep sex as something within a committed relationship/marriage, and keep dating as something with purposeful intent for finding such a partner. What may be missing, though, is a sense of connection with one’s neighbors.
- FooBarBizBazz 4y agoThere is something to what you're saying. The expectation of sex does "up the ante" for dating, and, paradoxically, may reduce the overall amount of dating that happens. In the old days, there was a stigma on sex before marriage, but people would go on lots of dates.
- BlargMcLarg 4y agoThe sexuality shame thing is overblown. The Japanese don't really have shame towards sex, but public flirting and PDA is generally taboo. At that point you're compartmentalizing places where one can find a date and where one can't find a date, which drastically lowers the odds you'll meet someone. On top, shyness and saving face run rampant. The former makes it so men don't approach all that often, the latter makes it so they often miss when a woman does the approach but does it in a way she can still save face, often leading to misreading intents. To put it in perspective, Japanese women tend to approach men more often than in the US, if I have to believe anecdotes. You wouldn't expect that from a culture "shaming" sexuality all-around versus a culture which openly applauds sexuality at every corner.
- Overtonwindow 4y agoThank you, I see. I tried to Google around for this but couldn't find a strong source: How does Japan compare to a country with the highest marriage rate? Wikipedia[1] says in 2014, Palestine had the highest marriage rate per capita, followed by Fiji, Egypt, the Bahamas, etc. I suppose the closest comparison to Japan might be another Asian country? Just curious if it's the taboo on PDA, flirting, and other personal interactions, or is it something more societal. Does Japan need a sexual revolution?
- j3o2ijoi3 4y agoWomen don't really like 'nice guys' (only as beta providers) and a lot of japanese men are 'nice guys'.
- kanzure 4y agoCurious to know if there are any very opposite recent results for some different population..?
- commiepatrol 4y agoI wish they would define what a date is. Does it mean virgin or at least someone who has had sex without paying for it? It also looks like in their culture you can be romantically involved without being sexually involved - are they saying 40% of younger men have never had a relationship?
- projektfu 4y agoI got the impression it meant a meeting for the intention of initiating a romantic (presexual) relationship. Like going to dinner alone together instead of with a group of friends. They mention later that Japanese culture is more group-social than, presumably, the author's culture, and perhaps couples can have spent a lot of time together before calling it a date.
- bombcar 4y agoAren't the Japanese big on "mixers" where you get equal numbers of guys and gals together for dinner/drinks - and a date would only be if you hit it off at one? Of course there are other ways to get a date, but I suspect they have a pretty defined meaning for it.
- Hamuko 4y agoThe original whitepaper uses the term デート (transliteration of English "date") for the data, and I've understood the Japanese to consider that different from a mixer (合コン), and that a "date" is a one-on-one activity/outing with someone you're romantically interested in.
- franciscop 4y agoI live in Japan and this is pretty accurate, a date and a goukon are def different things/concepts.
- LeanderK 4y ago> are they saying 40% of younger men have never had a relationship I think this is what is meant
- yur3i__ 4y agoI'm 22 and have never been on a date or anything resembling one. I'm not too worried about it, though the potential "skill gap" (for lack of a better word) with future partners does concern me a bit I have to admit.
- ip26 4y agoThe thought of finding the one I want while still lacking the skills to make it work (& losing them) drove me to find many dates simply for the learning experience- which lowered the stakes of a date & helped me relax.
- _fat_santa 4y agoFWIW I was very bad at getting dates when I was your age. It's really a skill you develop, the more you do it the better you will get. From age 20-25 I think I went on maybe 7 dates. So far this year I've gone on >20
- Noelkd 4y ago20 dates with 20 different people?
- marcyb5st 4y agoI don't see the number as that high. I'm at around 10 different people and considering I stopped around 2 months ago because I found one interesting enough that we decided to be mutually exclusive going forward. I use dating apps or met a couple of them at the bouldering gym where I boulder.
- GameOfFrowns 4y ago>met a couple of them at the bouldering gym where I boulder. That's why I stopped going to the local boulder gyms. Too many cookie-cutter "non-conformist dudes" who see the gym as their personal hunting grounds, creeping on the girls like a sleazy tennis instructor and bullying beginner guys because they don't like the competition.
- RajT88 4y agoHaving seen the documentaries and articles on predominantly young people living in internet cafes or as total shut-ins with family, I would say there's more still societal factors to this than even the article mentions.
- francisofascii 4y agoInteresting that 27.3% of women have a lover, but 19.1% of men do. Does that mean more lesbian activity or perhaps successful men taking more than one female? Any thoughts on this discrepancy?
- LeanderK 4y agoA while ago I read a study where they looked at the matches of dating-apps and they found that women tend to concentrate on the most impressive (so best looking, successful) men available whereas men just try to get someone roughly comparable. This meant a huge imbalance and would example the discrepancy seen here.
- greatpostman 4y agoA few men are taking all the women
- anthonypasq 4y agosince the dawn of time there have been more single men than women
- foobarian 4y agoand Genghis Khans
- pphysch 4y agoOne reductive way to view Western (straight) dating culture: - the women are competing for top ~10% of men, who almost always will have multiple casual partners at any given time because of this - the (other 90% of) men are competing for the top 50% of women It's a mess of poorly defined and misaligned interests. This leads to tension and stereotypes ("all men are assholes! all women are harlots!") and sexual inequality.
- bittercynic 4y agoThere may be some situations where people want to rank potential partners desirability as though it was a scalar that everyone would agree on, but there is no requirement to participate in those situations. For me, and I suspect most people, it seems much better to just do the things you enjoy, be friendly, and find people where there is some mutual interest in spending time together.
- alephnan 4y agoStatistically, this is not surprising. In the West, especially a place like NYC, it is common to go on dozens of date with different people, to find the perfect partner. But first, just casual meeting and friends, getting to know each other. That culture is not common in Japan. Of course some HN poster will provide counter anecdata, but their datapoint is already selecting for a different demographic than the greater Japanese population. Japanese people keep their social circles very small. Platonic relationships between genders are also less frequent. People generally hangout with people their own gender. Asking someone on a “date” borders on asking them to be your boyfriend/girlfriend. To get to this stage, you’ve probably have spent considerable amount of time and context knowing each other. You ask, how do you get to know someone if you don’t already know them? Therein lies both the paradox and the answer. Add in the fact that being single is not conditionally independent on the past, the headline “40% of SINGLE men never have been on a date” seems less surprising when you interpret it as “40% of single men have never had a girlfriend”. Finally, one of the biggest domestic industries in Japan is mizu shobai. There are dozens “conversation bars” at practically every semi dense place in Japan to fill the loneliness gap. If you want a rendition of this, watch Season 1 of “Light the Night” on Netflix about this culture but based in Taipei’s entertainment district catering to Japanese businessman. Their Japanese is terrible, but they capture the aesthetic and lifestyle decently well. This is as close of a glimpse you’ll get to the real Japan because it’s not something people talk about during daytime, and sure as hell not explaining to Westerners ( the vast majority of these places do not welcome foreigners).
- RajT88 4y agoIndeed, I wonder given the different culture in play here: -What is the "normal" number of single men in Japan in their 20's who have never been on a date? What was that number in the 80's?" -What is the current number of married men and women in Japan who have never been on a date? Omiai is a thing, but allegedly only single digit percentages of marriage rates. -To what degree are these "never been on a date" numbers skewed by people lying out of shame? What are the real numbers?
- fomine3 4y agoThis is very true. Also animes/idols may contribute men not to be eager for dating real woman
- fristechill 4y agoEqually disturbing is the fact that many married men are being encouraged to participate in a permanent state of ersatz courtship known as 'date nights'. What's the point of getting married if you still have to go on dates? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1HgQbXFEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1HgQbXFEE
- ceejayoz 4y ago> What's the point of getting married if you still have to go on dates? Maintaining the relationship?
- Broken_Hippo 4y agoI'm pretty sure "date night" is some folks' way of scheduling time together, especially when they have children.
- willismichael 4y agoWhat's the point of owning a home if you still have to pay for maintenance? What's the point of graduating from college if you still have to put effort into developing your skills?
- fristechill 4y agoApologies--I seem to have touched a nerve here. There are worse things than dates, I'm sure, e.g. hookup apps
- NeoTar 4y agoBecause dates are supposed to be fun - the best kind of a date should be with your married partner - no 'do they like me' debate running through your head, no 'I wonder what they look like naked'. You can be completely comfortable with each other.
- snapcaster 4y agoIf you're not joking, I think the reasons are pretty clear. As a cis straight man, it's a useful way to signal your partner's importance to you. It's an opportunity for your partner to make herself look good and get dressed up which improves her mood and well being. It's also a good way to avoid letting all your time being doing your own thing or sitting around on your phones and make it clear that you aren't taking your partner or the relationship for granted
- didip 4y agoThe government and the media keep freaking out about birth rate declining but made no attempts in fixing the poor working conditions in Japan. Who wants to date, marry, or have kids if you can barely live your life?
- natly 4y agoEven elon strangely dismissed that obvious cause when it was pointed out under his pinned tweet https://twitter.com/BillyM2k/status/1529125347148455937 https://twitter.com/BillyM2k/status/1529125347148455937 (elons explanation doesn't make any sense).
- bpodgursky 4y agoThese are fairly different arguments. Japan's working hours are traditionally brutal - 12 hours a day, 6-7 days a week. Plus mandatory "happy" hours. It's often a financially comfortable life; but there's 0 flexibility to find an employer that allows a 9-5 workday, even if you're willing to take a pay cut. Elon is saying that high-paid professionals in the US have fewer children than the lower-middle class, which is absolutely true. Doctors, lawyers, and engineers are far below replacement fertility.
- nonameiguess 4y agoThat seems to be missing that many of those highly-paid professionals were not highly paid in their peak fertile years. Engineers maybe, but doctors and lawyers tend to spend many years in school and then interning. If you start having kids at 30, you'll usually end up with fewer total kids than if you had started at 20. The most highly paid engineers are likely those willing and able to relocate frequently, too, which brings its own challenges. Money is needed to feel secure enough to start a family, but so are stable living arrangements and social structures.
- bpodgursky 4y agoHaving known many people who went through medical school and residency, I'm confident almost none of them would have accelerated their family plans with more money. Medical residents who work 80 hour weeks simply have less than 0 time to start a family. (And in fact, of the very few who did, it is always when the husband was a resident and the wife stay-at-home or a different career. In these cases, the finances were not a huge constraint; if nothing else, it is extremely easy to take on cheap debt as a resident.) I can't speak as confidently to lawyers and interning, but I'd be surprised if the dynamic was different.
- zeroonetwothree 4y agoI’ve only been on maybe three “dates” ever. Somehow I got married though. So apparently it’s not the only way to do it.
- vel0city 4y agoDo you not go on "dates" with your spouse? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/date https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/date date: 4a an appointment to meet at a specified time especially a social engagement between two persons that often has a romantic character Do you really not have appointments with your spouse which are of a romantic character? I would highly recommend it.
- rmetzler 4y agoI‘m with the same woman for more than 20 years, we have a daughter who is turning 10 years old soon. We’re not married though. Are we still „dating“?
- npteljes 4y agoDo you live together in some way? If you, then she's your life partner. It's even a legally recognized form of relationship in Hungary, and I'm sure that in many other places too.
- WFHRenaissance 4y agoBRB starting a Japanese PUA Youtube business. I will help these men get women.
- xdfgh1112 4y agoThat's not the point. These men have no interest in dating.
- _notathrowaway 4y agoSome of them surely, but all of them? Why do you have this impression?
- WFHRenaissance 4y agoI feel like what these men actually have no interest is dealing with the reality that women are people. The average hikikomori wants his manic pixie dream girl who is addicted to sex and generally subservient – and I intend helping make that dream come true for them.
- alephnan 4y agoI hope you know Japanese
- sequoia 4y agoHow have ~5% of married men never been on a date? Is the chart just imprecise?
- rpmisms 4y agoI am married, never dated in the normal sense. Met a girl, spent time doing normal things with her, we decided we got along well enough to get married. Coming up on three years, seems to work pretty well.
- piyh 4y agoMeet Girl ??? Marriage
- rpmisms 4y agoMore or less.
- treis 4y agoIt's a cultural thing. Extremely broadly speaking, the West treats love as something you fall into while Asia + some other places treat it as something you build.
- rpmisms 4y agoI'm a born American of Slavic extraction, and my wife is Scotch-Irish.
- anon291 4y agoAmerican culture lacks words to describe love because we don't understand it, and have rejected the western patrimony. America is obsessed with eros and increasingly disinterested in filial love and utterly uninterested in agape love. It leads to an incredibly unbalanced society. Healthy societies ignore erotic love as a fleeting feeling and instead focus on filial love, which is buildable and intentional.
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- DoingIsLearning 4y agoControversial opinion: The concept of a 'date' is an american romantic film import for a lot of other cultures. If I go back 10 years in my home country any woman would shut down your conversation if you asked her on a _one-on-one_ 'date', the implication alone would question her 'virtue'/intentions. One-on-one interaction would naturally occur as the casual hanging out with shared groups of friends or parties. I honestly don't really see it as backwards if anything I think it really takes the pressure off from the two people to somehow keep interesting conversation for long periods of time.
- Invictus0 4y agoWhat is your home country?
- shankr 4y agoI think you can say it's more "western" concept than American because the same concept exists in European countries also.
- Bayart 4y agoI've never been to an American style date in my life, nor do I do know anyone who does it. At least in France it far out of regular habits. The place for getting to know each other is usually a friends group.
- shankr 4y agoYeah the details might differ but courting ladies has been in European culture for a long time. I am not saying Europeans date exactly way Americans do. Still there are lot of similarities - like people starting dating in high school, going to clubs/bars to meet or yeah going to some common friend's house.
- prvit 4y agoWhat is an “American style date”? I’ve been to a plenty of dates in France, it’s not unusual for two people to go out to dinner and get to know each other.
- coldtea 4y agoThey worked hard. They made money. Then their culture and ethnic group grew old and died off.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y agoAs a Muslim, I would like to add my 2 cents. Historically, religion has made pre marriage interaction between a man and a woman essentially banned. You "should not" meet or talk to a girl /boy who is not your relative a term( mahram, which is a male relative who by consanguinity cannot have sex with) is often used so society is built around that concept. A college going guy/girl is not supposed to talk let alone be friendly because religion. That, over time has engrained into the entire society so for one, there is no concept of teen pregnancy because situation does not evolve to a point two people can have sex before getting married. Years ago, I saw a 13 Yo couple "kissing" on the street like 7 years ago. That's literally the only time I've seen PDA of sorts. Marriage is also weird because you are supposed to be a celibate before marriage, then your "parents" arrange a marriage and you are expected to sign off on it either on a photo of the other person or a brief interaction. The quirk of arrange marriage, you need to be "saleable" by way of a degree/job/business. What happens is, a 25-27 yo guy is either studying or unemployed. Girls? They either get a low paying job to get a tag of "employed" or just stay at home. Guys? Unless they start working, they are not considered ready till 28-29. Then it usually takes 2-4 years to "arrange a marriage". Now, its common to have 35-40 year olds getting married because the guy "wasn't earning enough" and because of religious compulsions, are always virgins. Over the last decade, instances of divorce have increased manifold because now people are starting to not put up with a bad relationship which was the societal norm and suddenly older generation is waking up to people getting divorced because the couple don't know how to handle a relationship
- therusskiy 4y ago30 y.o. male, (ex-)Russia. First time I went on a date I was 23 years old. Before that with all the studying and work I had no time whatsoever for any kind of a relationship. Some people on this thread bring up that dating let's you develop a skill. In my experience dating is pretty easy if your goal is a long-term relationship, you just need to be yourself. If the other person likes you for who you are and not appear to be it's a very good sign. It is also incredibly easy being yourself, less mental gymnastics. If you are after casual hookups... Here you do need a skill (unless nature gifted you with good looks). I suck incredibly hard at this. Another thing is that once girls get older (25+?) they start to value other things, so all these hookups you missed in your younger years don't matter that much.
- bergenty 4y agoThe hookups you missed do matter in that you missed out on a lot of the “fun” life provides. It also takes guts to initiate a lot of these conversations and helps a person grow.
- pm90 4y agoIve done this quite a bit and I agree. There is something really amazing about getting intimate with a person you don’t know all that well. Expressing intentions, getting the logistics right, all require a certain level of skill.
- ip26 4y agoIt’s not about hookup skill but confidence knowing what you want, being a 3-dimensional person, communicating, dealbreakers, and so on. Being yourself is a good idea- but who are you? What do you really want? What do you need to work on in yourself?
- Aeolun 4y agoWhat is more surprising is that like 8% of married young men went straight from koibito to wife, without going on a single date. As far as I know arranged marriages aren’t really a thing here.
- sbf501 4y agoIs US-style dating part of their culture? In the 80's and 90's I dated a few women from countries in Europe and they all thought the 1-on-1 date thing was weird, telling me that people usually go out in groups, and then pair off over time. I won't go into detail, but the relative intimacy of various sex acts was also out of order from what the US expects based on what they told me. Today, I have three friends with sons in their late 20's, and NONE of the boys have ever had what my generation would call a "steady" girlfriend, e.g., >6 months. I find that bizarre, but I'm old. Culture changes.
- incomingpain 4y agoThis one isn't so much about Japan. Japan is just sensitive to the problem because their ongoing population decline and upcoming economic collapse far greater than anyone has ever seen. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/201710/teen-dating-and-sex-hit-record-lows-recent-decades https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/201710... https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-u-s-fertility-rate-just-hit-a-historic-low-some-demographers-worry-its-a-baby-crisis https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-u-s-fertility-rate-... >In 2010, another survey published The Japanese Association for Sex Education Research Journal found that 40.8% (up from 34.6% in 2006) of marriages in Japan could be classified as "sexless" What an absolute disaster. Imagine all of Japan's recent Fukushima type events combined? How many deaths are associated with sexless marriages. Holy crap this is a disaster greater then their recent nuclear meltdown by whole factor levels. Easily hundreds of thousands of deaths every year. What happens with sexless marriages? You stay at work because it's far less depressing to be at work than be at home in a sexless marriage. So Japanese work long hours. Yet people are lonely... and clearly quite unhappy. They even have a 'minister of loneliness'. So what does 'work' do? Try to make you happy. Mandatory happy training! They are unhappy... they just need to get laid. Worse yet, you have such a large percentage of your work force who are sexless and unhappy. What does this do to productivity? How about that economic collapse because of tremendous government debt and tremendous taxes?
- the_only_law 4y ago> What happens with sexless marriages? You stay at work because it's far less depressing to be at work than be at home in a sexless marriage I gotta to wonder are there any intimate or romantic displays are or they basically just roommates.
- incomingpain 4y ago>I gotta to wonder are there any intimate or romantic displays are or they basically just roommates. The way I take it, no. If you're a platonic asexual couple. You wouldn't see a problem being at home in a sexless marriage. It would show up in the studies as well. It's not that extent. The problem there's resentment, there's anger, you stay away intentionally to avoid extra anger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_sexual_arousal_disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_sexual_arousal_disorder There is a problem and for so many societal reasons it needs to be addressed.
- yakak 4y agoI don't understand their spouse data being very different for males and females. Are there significantly fewer women in Japan, is there a significant difference in gay and lesbian marriage, is there polygamy? I think people are not reflecting the same relationship as their presumed partner would.
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- fomine3 4y agoOlder wealthier man marries and divorce then marries to young woman more than once. The reverse tend to not happen.
- icemelt8 4y ago