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GPT-6 Astra on OpenRouter
- Osama0456 1mo ago[flagged]
- r_lee 1mo agothat's literally what the link is for...
- kingstnap 1mo agoIts also available finally to Pro users! Just took 24 hours.
- InsideOutSanta 1mo agoThey gave out bankable resets for every day people on pro plans didn't get Astra. Given that, I wish they'd waited a few more days before activating it on my account :-D
- wincy 1mo agoThey haven’t activated Astra for me yet, I have two resets now. I’ve been using the opportunity to test out how good 5.6 Sol is at computer use asking it to generate stuff in Blender which has been… interesting Edit: nevermind it JUST gave me a notification to use it!
- paxys 1mo agoThat's a pretty genius internal incentive to move fast.
- embedding-shape 1mo ago> They gave out bankable resets for every day people on pro plans didn't get Astra. Yeah, when I saw that Tweet I knew the person was saying it because they knew it'll be available within 24h.
- wincy 1mo agoI must have been one of the last ones to get it because I managed to snag two bankable resets. Already reset once after having it clear up geometry in Blender, but it did a fantastic job!
- cromka 29d agoMeanwhile Fable with it's restrictions is still only available on 100 USD plan upwards.
- r_lee 1mo agois Azure for this actually ZDR?
- jiggawatts 1mo agoIt cracks me up that you have to ask in a public forum because the vendors purposefully obscure this critical information. The only reason most of my customers would use Azure Foundry instead of OpenAI directly is the ZDR assurance but it is so incredibly difficult to extract out of their model menu. There is no trivial way to block non-ZDR models either so every customer has to “vet” and individually approve models. If anyone from Microsoft is reading this: get your act together! You’re failing at the one thing people might want to pay you to do!
- r_lee 1mo agofrom my understanding, ZDR for this is for vetted customers only + their whole "privacy preserving abuse monitoring" or whatever is active but again, seems like there's no word from Azure if this applies to them. very confusing.
- vatsachak 1mo agoDamn I am so hyped
- gavinray 1mo agoI have GPT-6 access in Codex and OpenAI API now I'm a Business plan user with Cyber verification enabled, FWIW.
- embedding-shape 1mo agoSame just got access literally this minute, Pro user here, no Cyber verification but have passed my ID over to them back in 2024 or something, maybe at the ChatGPT 3 API launch or something? Has there been anything published about if Astra uses different amount of usage from your subscription plan compared to Sol? Don't recall coming across that in the press releases.
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- cute_boi 1mo agoI got it, but sadly no resets...
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- algoth1 1mo agoJust got it. European plus user here. Only codex, no chatgpt
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- taywrobel 1mo agoYou made an account just to post this?
- simonw 1mo agoI posted this in the other Astra thread but it's just fallen off the homepage, so... Pelicans from Astra, plus 5.6 Sol, Terra, Luna for comparison: https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2026/gpt-6-and-5.6-pelicans.html https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2026/gpt-6-and-5.6-p... I think this is a genuinely interesting comparison grid. Astra may be more expensive, but if you have a budget of 10 cents for a Pelican Astra low gives you something SO much better than the other models. Astra uses less tokens overall too, for better results. Astra transcript here: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsimonw%2Ff789d2784fc6c5b870cc80f0b7cd9d01 https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...
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- ComplexSystems 1mo agoIt's absolutely related.
- samuelknight 1mo agoHow are we supposed to know if Astra is frontier without the pelican?
- satvikpendem 1mo agoIt's simonw. It's interesting to see their pelican benchmark, another comment by a different author elsewhere here shows some very good SVG generation too.
- Xunjin 1mo agoDo you have other ideas of "combinations" for this kind of benchmark? I'm wondering if this is being trained on by the models today.
- r_lee 1mo agoI have a feeling they've been doing that for a while now, even if unintentional, as it's such a well known benchmark
- XCSme 1mo agoThat's some crazy SVG generation: https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-6-astra-high/google-gemini-3-8-flash-high/anthropic-claude-fable-5-1-high/#showcase=df3e2eaf3a701c60 https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-6-astra-high/google-... It took a while to test it, initially OpenRouter was giving Not Found errors for this model ID.
- embedding-shape 1mo agoAt the bottom it says "Score 98.58", what measure is used for this score? It's kind of horrible, the perspective is all off (legs of the table makes that very obvious), the mouse/hamster has two mouths, a stub for a right paw, looks like left hand holds a melon on a stick or something, and there are pluses in the background for some reason. Not sure it'd call it "close to perfect" which the score seems to want to indicate.
- XCSme 1mo agoYeah, that's confusing, the score is for the entire benchmark, not for SVG generation only. Good point about the mouths, I just noticed, lol Imo, it's still better than most models, I personally like the stylized perspective. You can view here all generations for all models: https://aibenchy.com/showcase/ https://aibenchy.com/showcase/
- XCSme 1mo agoDo you prefer the fable one? It's more "correct" but looks a lot worse in my opinion: https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-6-astra-high/google-gemini-3-8-flash-high/anthropic-claude-fable-5-1-high/#showcase=f36ffedba4331387 https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-6-astra-high/google-...
- kulahan 1mo agoNo, both of them look awful. I genuinely am unsure if this is a meme you're making that's going over my head...?
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- starik36 1mo agoWhat is the actual utility of using this model on Azure? It's twice as expensive, according to the link. Do Azure offer something that simply hitting the OpenAI endpoint doesn't provide?
- itsjustkev 1mo agoCompared to OpenAI flex? I'm pretty sure that is their batch processing endpoint, which is naturally cheaper.
- claiir 1mo agoThey’re ZDR and the OAI ones aren’t
- 6thbit 1mo agoInvoking simonw for pelicans pretty please.
- drivers99 1mo agoThat's over here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49570643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49570643
- StopTheCringe 1mo ago[flagged]
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- vb-8448 1mo agoPlayed in codex app a couple of hours today: it feels much faster than SOL, even if the TPS is half of it.
- WASDx 1mo agoLikely because it uses fewer thinking tokens (that you don't see anyways).
- jaesonaras 1mo agoAnyone had success using Astra as a Foundry model via Github Copilot? The error I get is that tooling is not available if reasoning has a value.
- marsven_422 1mo ago[dead]
- sumedh 1mo agoJust got access to it on Plus plan in Australia. 2 Banked resets as well.
- friendlypenguin 1mo agoI was really hoping for Astra to be less expensive then Opus...
- redox99 1mo agoIt is (uses way less tokens)
- simianwords 1mo agoNo it isn't cheaper, any source for task vs price comparison to Sol? Edit: GPT-6 Astra (low): 57 Intelligence Index, $7.70/M tokens GPT-5.6 Sol (high): 57 Intelligence Index, $3.08/M tokens So for the same measured intelligence, Sol costs only 40% as much — i.e. ~60% cheaper, while Astra is ~2.5× more expensive. Why is the burden of proof on me tho!?
- wickedsight 1mo agoThis is the second comment I see where you write "no it isn't", without providing a source for your statement. Then you follow it by asking for a source. So is there a source you can provide to back up your statement?
- dgellow 1mo agoIt’s supposed to work the other way, if you make a positive claim that it is cheaper, where is your proof?
- haaz 1mo agoAstra is obviously better than sol. Look at the benchmarks, astra medium costs the same as sol X high whilst costing the same per task https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/releases/gpt-6-astra https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/releases/gpt-6-astra
- slopinthebag 1mo agothey said opus, not sol, it's cheaper than opus by almost half at max. astra high is also 3x cheaper than opus max at basically the same intelligence. astra high is also about as expensive as sol max while being more intelligent. astra medium is cheaper than sol max while also being cheaper and roughly same intelligence. im going to replace my sol usage with astra high/medium i think caveat: benchmarks are really fuzzy with llms
- jjcm 1mo agoIt's ability to handle non-90 degree cutouts and shapes for web dev is one of the best I've seen. The vision model on this is VERY capable. Here's an image design source of truth: https://image.non.io/78f4cd8b-2560-4643-9a51-96a89171f994.webp https://image.non.io/78f4cd8b-2560-4643-9a51-96a89171f994.we... And here's the page it build from it: https://image.non.io/e7d3a9e5-f9df-4fd8-b79f-1f90280f978f.webp https://image.non.io/e7d3a9e5-f9df-4fd8-b79f-1f90280f978f.we... Note the flowing svg lines, and how accurately it recreated them. Here's Opus 5 for comparison - you can really see how while Astra really recreated the flow that was in the original design, opus only got the general vibe: https://image.non.io/dfe13de0-4487-431f-8b69-544ff3030dac.webp https://image.non.io/dfe13de0-4487-431f-8b69-544ff3030dac.we... One thing I will say is you are paying for quality. That site build cost $24 - extremely non-trivial for a simple frontend.
- copperx 1mo ago> That site build cost $24 - extremely non-trivial for a simple frontend. I would say that $24 is trivial IF that's the final design. The truth is that the cost doesn't leave much room for error or experimentation.
- JumpCrisscross 1mo ago> truth is that the cost doesn't leave much room for error or experimentation Compared to what?
- copperx 1mo agoA cheap Chinese model, of course.
- kolinko 1mo agoWdym no room for error or experimation? Changes are even cheaper, and in my experience they are faster and way cheaper with models than with designers.
- paxys 1mo ago
- MisterMunchkin 1mo ago$10/$50 is incredibly expensive compared to Chinese models which are cents. I think they’re really going to struggle selling these models long-term. My company is already massively cutting down on access because they’ve realised most people don’t actually produce any value using it. All the tokenmaxers have ruined it for the rest of us now that accounting have seen the costs.
- KptMarchewa 1mo agothe only thing that matters is cost per task. Astra seems to be massively efficient.
- simianwords 1mo agoNo it doesn't. Any source?
- gentlewater 1mo agoNot really comparable IMO. Astra and Fable are not the every day workhorse you reach for to do basic tasks (unless your company has fuck you-money), they’re the tool you break out when you need the absolute strongest performance. There are plenty of tasks where finding and fixing one or two extra edge cases saves the business a lot of money, even if the cost is high. The best example would be scanning for vulnerabilities, if these models weren’t kneecapped in that area.
- ghosty141 1mo agoWe have ChatGPT Pro at work and I usually use Terra medium/high and only bring out Sol High when the big or feature actually requires "thinking"/complex behavior. This has worked pretty well for me and it's very token efficient
- yurishimo 1mo agoHow much code are you shipping in a day? I find I can pretty comfortable use Sol high most of the day and stay within the 5 hour limit. I’ve got too many meetings to allow me time to write code continuously for an entire day. I usually finish about one ticket a day and then review 1-3 tickets for my colleagues.
- 1saadcodes 1mo agoThe higher price seems less important if it actually gets the job done with fewer tokens. I'm still very worried that this will end up coming back to bite us, by becoming more expensive once they inevitably nerf it. Every major model provider does that now after all
- forrestthewoods 1mo agoThrew $10 at this to help me prepare for my league’s fantasy auction this weekend. It spend $3.50 and then said “this action would cause you to go above your spending limit”. Then I threw $100 for a Codex Max sub and it included Astra and it did it for me. Sure seems like Astra is expensive AF.
- upcoming-sesame 1mo agoAny tips on using Astra as orchestrator with Luna workers efficiently in codex?
- logged4upvoting 1mo ago(This applies to Sol but probably works for Astra too) I've created with Sol a skill called Low Quota Mode that intends to reduce the use of tokens usages by the frontier (intelligent model) and delegate the use of bulk reading of docs/code and implementation to a sub-agent running Luna Max. Sol is asked to supervise, read the diffs and approves the commit/pr. The skill might need some iterations while you use it, for example at the end of a rough session you can ask Sol how did it went, which were the points of conflict with Luna and try to iron them little by little by editing the skill. Also in difficult tasks, ask to babysit the sub-agent model, I've seen it makes more effort into communication between frontier and sub-agent to guide the task with more care. So far it has reduced my tokens usage a lot (have not quantified but the quota lasts more).
- DrProtic 1mo agoCould you shoot us the github gist?
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- boxed 1mo agoThe lemur is worse though. The hands don't follow physics for example. You claim this would be easier, but then the model is worse.
- d2p 1mo agoOdd that the tool call failure rate is so high (5%) for the OpenAI provider than Azure (0.2-0.5%).
- thejassbrain 1mo agogreat
- swe_dima 1mo agoAccording to the metrics the "fast" mode is not any faster...
- NSUserDefaults 1mo agoI misread the title as GPTA-6, wondering what sort of crazy crossover was happening.
- ebiester 1mo agoFor those on plus, are you seeing astra limited to medium? Considering the rate limits that probably makes sense, but I'm wondering what different groups have access to.
- saidnooneever 1mo agoin the middel of a coding session with 5.6 sol. astra popped up, swapped, asked review, it fixed a few really critical bugs immediately. pretty nice. one around some resource lifetimes in a rendering pipeline which would have been a nightmare to find manually. almost had the feelin it was watching its little brother fail and had to 'step in' for a moment :'). time to go play outside...
- killerstorm 1mo agoI tried it with some humanities questions and with the default OR system prompt (no prompt?) it seems to be rather mild - lacking usual AI mannerisms. Kinda cool.
- cmrdporcupine 1mo agoI'm appreciating Astra writes much more humanely somehow than Sol did, and certainly better than the Anthropic models. It's terse, like all GPT models by default, but the sentences feel less obscurantist. It's also more pro-active about problem solving.
- christophilus 1mo agoTangentially related, but Astra generated some of the worst Odin code I’ve ever seen. Turns out AGI is indistinguishable from an Oracle subcontractor who hates tech and hates his job.
- frenchtoast8 1mo agoI signed up for OpenRouter, loaded it up with $25, and after running a test prompt immediately had my account suspended. There’s no way to talk to support, emails go nowhere, and their Discord is swarmed with people who also are getting no responses to anything. I would recommend staying away from OpenRouter. No matter how good the service is, if anything does go wrong, you have no recourse and you lose every credit in your account. Ironically some of the few responses I actually saw in the Discord were doubling down on their “no refunds no matter what” policy.
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- miyuru 1mo agotake screenshots of the responses and do a chargeback.
- predkambrij 1mo agoI did get a response when sending to support@openrouter.ai about a year ago (complaining about some information claims), not about my account.
- frenchtoast8 1mo agoI emailed them a few days ago and the automated reply says to expect a week for a response. That wouldn’t be concerning except on Discord there are people begging for help after waiting multiple weeks.
- Gecko4072 1mo agoThey were just bought for $7B and rely on Discord?
- bellowsgulch 1mo agoGod, that's a step up from AI support, which is so sad to type out loud.
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- azinman2 1mo agoI’m confused. I thought it was being only rolled out to select partners for now?
- kzrdude 1mo agoThe names, I thought they were going to keep Sol, Terra, Luna for a while (while increasing versions). Are names like Sol and Astra really burned as one-offs? I think that's a waste of a good model name. Hope they keep them going with updates, as nicknames for the various model sizes on offer.
- kdnvk 1mo agoAstra is a fourth tier above Sol, analogous to Fable and Opus.
- gertlabs 1mo ago[dead]
- ellessarr 1mo ago2× price only wins for review if it catches bugs the cheap model drops — nobody runs that test, everyone quotes the benchmark.
- theagenticleade 1mo agoThis feels like a genuine step change in AI development. Inline with Dec 2025 release of Opus 4.6. Where do we go from here??
- sejje 1mo agoFaster; cheaper.
- thenthenthen 1mo agoAnyone tried it for pcb/circuit design yet?
- hermesrouter 29d ago[flagged]