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Got kicked out of uni and had the cops called for a social media website I made
- cindyllm 7mo ago[dead]
- LANcaster 7mo agoHey 1whizkid1, the Forbes 30 under 30 pipeline is waiting for you.
- blinkbat 7mo agoHard to have the high road with the mouth of a sailor
- toomuchtodo 7mo agohttps://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170117105107.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170117105107.h...
- BoredPositron 7mo agoThat's not what's on display here.
- bigyabai 7mo ago"What do you mean I'm being fired for fucking workplace harassment? You're my goddamn boss, don't you know that swearing has a positive correlation with intelligence!?" Yeah, something tells me that these studies aren't going to move the needle on swearing and professionalism.
- Terr_ 7mo agoUsually ad-hominem fallacies have a little more padding than that.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI think this kind of puritism is not good, at all. It honestly feels really elitist whenever people bring up the way of speaking, instead of the things being said. A person from medevial britain could look at your language and say it's the "mouth of a sailor". Different people speak differently. obv a college student would speak different from like a mid thirties software employee right? I hope you can look past it and give me your thoughts on the actual story, which i felt was really really crazy
- guzfip 7mo agoThis is how evil tends to win. Idiots will select the “cleaner” option even if it’s worse.
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- vignesh_146 7mo agolol this happened at my college (IIT delhi). He's being disengeious in the blog, the reason they made him take the site down is cos people writing some really really bad things about students, and Obv that should not be allowed at a place for higher education. Be more mature.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoHow is some people writing bad things about some students a valid reason to make me take my website down? like iit should honestly have been proud of me for building something cool, which over 80% of their uni is using. instead of threatening to kick me out...
- vignesh_146 7mo agoyou are still being disingenuous. We live in a society, the college as a whole is a society of various people. Your site was hurting some people's sentiments and that's enough reason to take it down. I can admit it was maybe cool, but try to do cool things which do good to people, not harm. and be a little more humble.
- stronglikedan 7mo ago> Your site was hurting some people's sentiments and that's enough reason to take it down. Like hell it is. I got news for you - every website hurts someone's sentiments. That's no reason to gatekeep.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI agree so fucking much… anything can hurt someones sentiments
- vignesh_146 7mo agoI mean the only thing this site could do is hurt people?
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- BugsJustFindMe 7mo agoPreliminary comment on tone and behavior in writing: Everything about the story, from the described details about what allegedly happened to the way those details are communicated, is infantile. That makes it very hard to treat the author as a reliable narrator about specific details. Anyway... > anyone could make an anonymous account, and then comment anything on anyone's profile Jesus christ. You built a platform specifically designed for targeted abuse. I know that you're still young, but one day when you're older I hope you come to realize that a platform for spreadings rumors about others is not an ok thing to want to build. You don't have the moral high-ground here. The only thing you accomplished was being a creep. This whole blog post shows an extreme level of immaturity that I really do hope you grow out of. Literally every line is absolute cringe. > this is that story. its really really fucking crazy. The craziest thing to me about this story is that everything in the story makes you look bad and yet you chose to post it anyway. You either: A) never realized that you were building a harassment platform despite being told this multiple times, which demonstrates a complete lack of awareness or B) thought it would be a good idea to build a harassment platform, which demonstrates a complete lack of empathy
- philipov 7mo agoI wish the people currently building the global terror nexus would have that mature realization.
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- techjamie 7mo agoI'm surprised at how few comments there are about just how creepy this is. Going to a university is not implied consent for random people to throw up searchable websites with your name and face, let alone allowing random, anonymous other people to attach anything they want to it in a comment section. I get it he was copying The Social Network, but just because it's been done before doesn't make it better now.
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- superkuh 7mo agoImagine if this was, say, at a bar. A person holds up a sheet of paper on a clipboard and says anyone can write about anyone else in the bar. Would the police be called? Would legal threats be made? People freaking out like this is not consistent with social norms. It's magical thinking about the internet somehow being different or unique. Good luck dealing with these small minded administrators.
- dcrazy 7mo agoAny bar worth going to would kick out the asshole with the sign and ban them from returning.
- superkuh 7mo agoOkay. Now imagine he's doing it out on the public sidewalk and not using bar property. Would it be justified to use physical force and steal the clipboard owner's property?
- dcrazy 7mo agoWhat about this imaginary scenario has anything to do with OP scraping their college’s student directory to populate their rumor mill website?
- Dylan16807 7mo agoWhere did stealing property come from? Also the guy with a clipboard is only showing those notes to a couple people at a time after they journey to his location, which makes a pretty big difference for the amount of disruption. There's no magical thinking about the internet being special. The social norms are different because the situation is so different.
- superkuh 7mo agoThey stole his phone using physical violence. It's in the article. I'll quote it for you. >So i was like chill out bro, ill just delete the video, but the dean said, "no confiscate his phone". so one of the guards just snatched the phone from my hand the dean said wipe everything, and dont give him his phone back. I was like wtf is happening? bro I have my private photos on there dont do this. like you cannot do this. I tried reaching for my phone but one of the security guys just held me. and started being rough with me. like pushing me around and shit.
- mbfg 7mo agoI suspect if he changed the name to not include the college name, while people would be angry, there wouldn't be a real reason to take it down. The sending emails to the college system is also iffy.
- M95D 7mo agoLack of moderation was the real issue with the site.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI mean ppl could contact me if they wanted anything removed… several people did too
- croes 7mo agoSo people had to know your site before they can get anything removed. That’s not the right way to do it, just like Facebook‘s shadow profiles. You want to use my data, you ask first.
- RobotToaster 7mo agoThat's literally how most platforms work.
- croes 7mo agoNo, most platforms require that the user creates an account don’t scrap data do create them without consent. What you mean are spammers who scrap web pages for email addresses to sent unwanted mails.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoNo. Im not going to ask. That data was public bro, and data, man it was just your name. Come on. I hate this “my data” bs
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- hnsdev 7mo agoThe college was being abusive and they probably cannot take your phone and delete your stuff. What an awful thing to happen. By the way, the dean was not being nice by visiting you, don't go through Stockholm Syndrome, he was checking on you because he knew what he did was wrong.
- Ajedi32 7mo agoIIT Delhi is in India so I'm not sure what the law looks like there, but yeah a university physically stealing an adult's phone and deleting his personal photos would definitely be illegal in the states. I wonder if Delhi is the equivalent of a one-party or two-party consent state in the US? If it's one-party then OP recording their conversation wasn't even illegal.
- BugsJustFindMe 7mo agoDefamation is illegal in India, so a defamation platform would be problematic.
- alephnerd 7mo agoTwo-Party consent. And just like Zucc he is shielded by privilege - his father's a senior bureaucrat in the MoD who attended the NDA. Additionally, based on the comments on iitsocial, a large number of users were commenting how it was devolving into a doxxing mill. Doesn't matter, he'll land on his feet given his familial background. And this is why my parents immigrated to the US in the 1990s and I remain grateful for that.
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- jjmarr 7mo agoI love how OP directly borrowed the plot of The Social Network by scraping the campus directory for a student rating system. And somehow it's playing out in the exact same way. > I had scraped data for all students at IIT Delhi, and made a profile for all of them. > anyone could make an anonymous account, and then comment anything on anyone's profile. Each profile also had 4 fields, where you could tag anyone, in the "has dated", "crushing on", "crushed on by" or "haters" category. > he told me, take the site down or you WILL face DISCO, so again I was like sure, I dont mind it (I was just gettting reminded of Social Network lmao) > also at one point i literally said the social network dialogue, " I feel like i deserve some recognition from you guys"
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoIt’s actually uncanny Maybe some of the things im doing are inspired tho
- jjmarr 7mo agoThe advice I have as someone who also pushed boundaries is to be more creative next time. The school will hate you no matter what. But this project doesn't appeal to VCs because social networking isn't trendy anymore. Try doing something fresh with AI. Example: the founder of Cluely got expelled from Columbia for creating an AI to cheat at LeetCode-style interviews. He also spends his time posting what some call unprofessional engagement bait on social media. However, he just had a $15 million Series A.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI mean I wasnt doing this for vc’s i was just doing it cos it was cool. And something i wanted for my college life. But yes, i appreciate your comment, and i 100% plan to do more cool and serious things in the future. Your site’s really cool btw
- thrance 7mo agoHe should probably drop out, seek funding from Thiel and start his company. He could call it something like "visagebank" or similar. Then in a few decades he can join the select club of dickheads ruling the world.
- joshstrange 7mo agoOne can hope that time will lead to more maturity than was shown in launching a site like this or acting that way when pressed. Yes, the admin didn't handle it well, but the writing style and general tone of this post/incident is incredibly off-putting. All while talking about future "investors" and how many great ideas he has. You created a clone of hot-or-not (or whatever Zuck called his site) and you think you're the next coming? Get real. There was nothing innovative here at all, it might be one thing if it was innovative while being scummy but it's just scummy and a tired copy.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI mean it's not at all related to hot-or-not? I feel like this site idea, and the implementation was really innovative honestly. and also, "you think you're the next coming? Get real" lol just witness history
- azan_ 7mo agoWhat's innovative in the site idea or implementation? There's nothing there, it's just rehash of 20 years old idea.
- imiric 7mo agoI agree that the tone is off-putting and immature, but attacking the author and the site doesn't change the fact that it gained traction and many students seemed to enjoy it (if we can believe the claims). There's clearly a demand for this type of site, so any technical or novelty merits are irrelevant. What the author did wrong was mishandling the negative response. If he had been open to the feedback and worked on a plan to address the concerns, the site might have stayed up. Hopefully this is a learning opportunity, as he clearly needs it.
- legohead 7mo agoonly a couple steps away from Idiocracy
- 1whizkid1 7mo agowhat does this mean lol
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- josefritzishere 7mo agoWhen I read things like this I glimplse the enormous cultural gulf between generations. I instictively want to take the side of the underdog in most situations. But in this case, I do not find the protagonist very sympathetic. But clearly, many young people feel otherwise. The world is a-changing.
- amatecha 7mo agoI feel like it's not really generational, I remember bros like this when I was on IRC as a kid and we were all hacking around on stuff and winnuking each other or whatever. Some of them actually grew up and did real things which is always cool to see (I have plenty of said ppl on LinkedIn who are now crazy successful), and then yeah lots of 'em who uhhh, went in other directions.
- ryandrake 7mo agoYea, I had the same first reaction. But, then I thought: If this were run through a program that re-wrote it to sound more like me, more like a typical, mature, 40 year old tech writer wrote it, I'd probably be feeling sympathetic to the author. So I admit I'm really just rejecting the writing style and the "wassup bro lmao suck my dick bro lol bro bro" attitude. Re-written, I'd probably be pretty solidly behind this guy.
- catlikesshrimp 7mo agoThe implementation of the idea looks more like a kiwifarm egg than a facebook egg. Thinking about Anonymous posting about non public figures is perturbing. If the poster can't be made responsible for the post, then the platform and the platform of the platform (and so on) are in line. That is: new website, then the hosting servers (and so on)
- Ajedi32 7mo agoDMCA is a pretty good model for this sort of thing IMO. You take down the post, notify the poster, and if the poster wants they can have you put it back up and tell the original complainant "sue me". If you don't follow that process they can sue you instead.
- amatecha 7mo agoI mean, this guy seems absolutely clueless. Anyone with even the slightest social awareness would know this site is going to result in hurting people and people are going to really dislike him for making it... and further his own conduct is super immature (wtf is [0])... He basically made a harassment service, complete with allowing anonymous posting? Definite "FAFO" moment. I don't feel a shred of sympathy for his situation. When you build social technology, you have a responsibility to put some serious thought into what the social effects are of what you're producing. Every feature will have social and psychological implications for the people using the service. If you don't care about that, you especially shouldn't even be trying to make social-related software. [0] https://monyatwu.com/blog/iitsocial/pic7.png https://monyatwu.com/blog/iitsocial/pic7.png
- standardUser 7mo agoI find it hard to blame the young ambitious teenager and much easier to blame the grown-ass adults in supervisory roles who apparently can't cite a single violation by name and later violently steal a kid's phone. The kid might have some things to learn, sure, but the adult behavior is what I would call "super immature".
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- margalabargala 7mo agoI agree about the adults but I can blame both. The teenager is on a trajectory to become a very capable person, technologically. They are also behaving like a sociopath and may well be on a trajectory to cause an awful lot more harm than good in the world. This event could have been a great teaching moment if it was handled by an adult with the capacity to execute on it. Everyone sucks here and the future is.worse for.it.
- LastTrain 7mo agoI’m actually pretty tired of young ambitious assholes who build themselves off of other people’s misery, and I choose to not celebrate it. That said, the university overreacted.
- rambambram 7mo agoHahaha, I get 'The Social Network' vibes from this story. You should read his other posts also. Let's just say the guy has more than enough confidence.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI really felt like i was living in the movie too. also for the posts, haha thanks for reading. i feel like they'll be pretty cool for people to look back on when im really succesful
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- cbarnes99 7mo agoNo investor with any brains who reads this post would ever give you money. And no job that reads it would ever hire you.
- OutOfHere 7mo agoIt is your obligation to remove defamatory comments immediately, ideally never allowing them to be posted at all (by means of an LLM). Secondly, you probably failed to provide the profile owners a way to delete their own profile if they seek privacy. These inactions are probably what led to complaints.
- ozim 7mo agoI guess that’s how you get to be in Forbes 30 under 30 right?
- mchannon 7mo agoIf you're ever going to record an interaction with people who do not want it seen by the masses that they are breaking the law, you need to ensure that you livestream it. Then you can tell them, "Go ahead, confiscate my phone. Proof of your illegal acts have already left the building, and the country."
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI was honestly just recording it cos i thought itd be cool to see in the future. Wasn’t going to show it to anyone except maybe my friends
- anakaine 7mo agoI call bullshit on that statement. With they way the rest of your article reads, what are the chances you wanted to put it up on the site?
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoif i wanted to upload, i would have. And btw i would have been in my rights to do that. But i didnt want to. I genuinely just vlog my entire life, and i think you can see from my blog that im not gonna be dishonest atleast lol
- gamblor956 7mo agoFTA: "Mony: bitch come suck my dick" ...in response to someone politely asking to have his profile removed. Then the school told you to take it down and you refused. You deserved to get kicked out of school. Yes, this site would probably have been fine (if distasteful) in the U.S...because the U.S. has a different legal system. This site is not legal under Indian law. Defamation works very differently in India. You should consider yourself lucky that you're able to write this blogpost instead of finding out what the inside of an Indian prison is like.
- sillysaurusx 7mo agoIn fairness, they didn't ask for their profile to be taken down. They asked for the entire site to be removed. Ditto for the school. I don't think this was a good site, but it's still important to get the details correct.
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- 1whizkid1 7mo agoEXACTLY, anyone who told me to remove a comment, I did. the guy was just rude to me and told me to take the site down (and threatened me), and obv i wont do that
- jjulius 7mo agoThe point is that they shouldn't have had to ask you to do that because their profiles shouldn't have been there in the first place. You didn't have their permission to do that, and yet you did it anyway. How can you actually be surprised at the outrage when you are fully aware that you essentially forced everyone into that position without their consent? You keep asking people what you did wrong, but you have refused time and again to even begin to attempt to consider why creating profiles for everyone without their permission is wrong. HN doesn't care about virality and something being "cool" the way you think they do, especially when all you're doing is copying what a famous CEO did nearly two decades ago, the very CEO that most of HN extremely dislikes now - and you wonder why you're getting the third degree? Step off the internet for a bit and think about the feedback you're getting. Stop insisting you're awesome and that the project was cool and that we're all wrong, and consider what you're hearing. Your ego is tremendously over-inflated.
- leoff 7mo agoReading this wasn't easy, but let's appreciate the authenticity. This post doesn't reflect well on you, you were disrespectful to every person in the story. You really need to grow up, and you could've handled this way better. You could have, for example, asked exactly what their concerns were, and proposed ways to address them. Your site looks very amateur, but from your description, it doesn't sound like you are doing anything clearly forbidden by law. >someone had written a comment about S which he did not like. Couldn't this also be done in the reddit? Then is the lack of moderation and language filters the problem?
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI honestly think i was pretty respectful to everyone, well until they started being disrespectful to me… > You could have, for example, asked exactly what their concerns were, and proposed ways to address them. i obviously did this. But they had already made up their mind… > Couldn't this also be done in the reddit? Then is the lack of moderation and language filters the problem? That was something i said too, ppl can do this on reddit. But their response was ‘but we dont control reddit’ For the moderation, i mean i was removing things if anyone reported it, what else could i do?
- croes 7mo ago> Each profile also had 4 fields, where you could tag anyone, in the "has dated", "crushing on", "crushed on by" or "haters" category. >Another cool thing was that whenever someone commented on your profile or tagged you, I'd send you an email on your official iitd email. That’s quite the opposite of respect. More like spam.
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- leoff 7mo ago>I honestly think i was pretty respectful to everyone Cursing at people, taking hidden photos, posting them publicly laughing at the situation, mocking employees and the police, is the opposite of being respectful.
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- nusl 7mo ago> "the DEAN threatened to kick me out" So when did the clickbait title apply? The author is honestly, from this article, quite a horrible person.
- anakaine 7mo agoAbsolutely agree. No care about how their platform is being used, chooses to laugh at the almost instant presence of bullying and gossip, takes no responsibility, infringes upon the institutions name, etc. Ends with ego. The universities reaction was over the top. The author also needs to improve their grammar. The occasional capitalisation is diabolical. Either do, or don't, and at least if you don't it's obvious you're a child.
- DrewADesign 7mo ago> The author also needs to improve their grammar. The occasional capitalisation is diabolical. Either do, or dont, and at least if you dont its obvious youre a child. * Either do, or don’t, and at least if you don’t, it’s obvious you’re a child.
- anakaine 7mo agoI deserve that correction. Have an upvote.
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- ambicapter 7mo agoI don't think the capitalization is what's tipping people off this kid is a child.
- malfist 7mo agoThis kid is an adult.
- aadopne 7mo agoThis guy is too cocky for his own good. Still, an interesting case study in how to trip up on your own arrogance and still not learn anything from it.
- hombre_fatal 7mo agoThey're doubling down like that Cluely guy to try to save face from it, pretending to be too gangsta to care. I don't know much about India, but if you're going to go that route, it better be as easy to make it by there as a uni drop-out as it is in the US.
- alephnerd 7mo ago> pretending to be too gangsta to care. > I don't know much about India, but if you're going to go that route, it better be as easy to make it by there as a uni drop-out as it is in the US It's affluenza. His dad's a Colonel in the Indian Army and a senior bureaucrat who worked on infrastructure and civilian-military airport development ($$$). Worst case this kid lays low for a couple months, gets admitted into a private university in India thanks to daddy, and his dad will use his network to get him a job and start his career. That said, given the way he wrote the article, the comments he made on HN, and the kinds of comments I've seen users make on iitsocial (some homophobic and sexual harassment posts targeting students who happened to be lower caste) I could see someone getting pissed enough to file an FIR on him under IPC 354 (non-bailable), 504, 505, and 509 as well as the SC/ST Act to make an example out of him. Even if he is found not guilty, getting an FIR means you will never get a visa anywhere (because all countries ask about your criminal background) and getting a job would be extremely difficult without family support. And becuase this would have become a big news story which would have made IITD's admin look bad (rich upper caste son of a Colonel aided and abetted in sexual harassment of OBC woman at IITD) during election season they tried to give him an offramp, which he stupidly ignored. Edit: Jesus, he admitted to committing defamation with full cognizance [0] (and it's already been archived [1]). > "ok so i was just doing marketing, we were uploading rumors and gossip about people" Yeah, he can't be saved. He can get an FIR filed against him under IPC 499 and can easily be found guilty of defamation under IPC 500 (non-bailable) on top of the other IPCs listed and the SC/ST Act. [0] - https://monyatwu.com/dailyblog/day29/ https://monyatwu.com/dailyblog/day29/ [1] - https://web.archive.org/web/20260406220532/https://monyatwu.com/dailyblog/day29/ https://web.archive.org/web/20260406220532/https://monyatwu....
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- timpera 7mo agoInteresting story, despite the clickbait title. Keep up the good work.
- quietsegfault 7mo agoWhat’s interesting about it? Sassy kid acts without thinking, learns nothing. That’s the whole schtick.
- droptablemain 7mo agoI guess I'm too old for this sh*t, the whole thing just sounds terribly juvenile.
- imwillofficial 7mo agoThis is the most self indulgent story I've ever read. It brings value to nobody.
- rambambram 7mo agoHey Mony, I want to follow your blog, please have an RSS feed for it if you can.
- pavel_lishin 7mo ago> What the site was is that, I had scraped data for all students at IIT Delhi, and made a profile for all of them. > anyone could make an anonymous account, and then comment anything on anyone's profile. Oh, good, they made a harassment factory.
- dmitrygr 7mo agoOh, good, they made TheFacebook
- morkalork 7mo agoAh but, after the first of anything the ladder must be pulled up.
- areoform 7mo agoIt doesn't matter. This is how Facebook started. It's how a lot of things started. Young people doing (sometimes questionable) experiments. The fact that the default response to this is "omg" and "this guy deserves to be in prison" is an indication of the dark times we're headed towards. A society unable to tolerate deviance from the norm, is a society that will fail to adapt to inevitable changes to the norm. And the norms are changing. I am pretty pro-privacy. And yes, I find it to be fairly thoughtless, but that's no reason for coercive intimidation. The fact that this was the reaction to someone doing an experiment speaks poorly about the society it took place in, and explains why there haven't been any major breakthroughs - in consumer tech, science or the arts – from within that country. More generally, HN's reaction is disappointing. This is a very hacker thing to do. Hackers have always been people out at the edge doing things that get them into trouble. The fact that most people on HN want to crush that rebelliousness – that hacker spirit – is sad to me. I think there's a dark undercurrent in global culture, where people would rather live in a world where they're poor but able to control others as opposed to one where they're wealthy but unable to exert control over others.
- jjulius 7mo agoGo, have your fun, experiment, fuck around, push boundaries. Don't make profiles for me based on info you found, public or not, and then sign me up to receive notifications for messages on it without my permission. Yeah, Facebook started in college, but it didn't start with scraped data and auto-generated profiles.
- quietsegfault 7mo agoWhat an asshole.
- anonymouscaller 7mo agoI know he watched the Social Network before he did this :)
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- hdhdhsjsbdh 7mo agoYikes, I guess American tendency for narcissism, cultural rot, and attention-seeking at all costs has fully permeated the global culture. This brat will probably be successful in life and that’s exactly why everything’s going to shit.
- hackable_sand 7mo agoThey will have to grapple with the hollow, gnawing feeling in their gut for the rest of their life. It's some vindication, but it's also just sad.
- KnuthIsGod 7mo agoHarrassment site. Sites like these are only one step up from revenge porn.
- xrd 7mo agoI've never seen someone with net negative karma until now.
- Imustaskforhelp 7mo agoWhen I had made some hackernews comment/karma analysis sometime ago, I know that there are some people with negative karma. 1 Proven -247 2 VentureHawk -89 3 adamyormark -50 4 oldpersonintx2 -45 5 sevenstar -35 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46874249 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46874249
- DrewADesign 7mo agoPrompt: make a viral story about a cartoonishly obnoxious person feeling persecuted for facing any real consequences for their antisocial behavior.
- throwanem 7mo agoCongratulations on the successful launch, Mark! (2004)
- titzer 7mo ago> At this point I was genuinely feeling really fucking cool, cos I was just thinking this would be a really cool story to tell investors when I have a startup. The site was just booming. This is Mark Zuckerberg posting this, check.
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- 1f60c 7mo agoI ain't reading all that, but do you really think it wise to recreate TheFacebook in 2026?
- yeah879846 7mo agosounds like a strong case of ego
- aetherspawn 7mo agoLook, a piece of valid advice, and let me prefix this with I’ve been in business a long time and I run a big company. If you want to get anywhere, it’s only going to happen by making deals with others. For this, you need to be kind and caring. You need to negotiate with people and make everyone feel good, like they’re getting a good deal, not your response: “bitch come suck my dick” which by the way is sexual harassment. You had one opportunity to remove the account of the guy who complained and issue an apology, and you failed. If you had just done this, your site would still be up and viral. At any point in your negotiations with the Dean you could have offered to work with him to incorporate his feedback and reinforced how the platform was going viral and that it was going to be good for publicity because of its parallels to Facebook. You needed to identify his core concern (perhaps control) and resolve it mutually (make him an admin account or something). That’s what being a leader is about, not being an egotistic maniac.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> You had one opportunity to remove the account of the guy who complained and issue an apology Yup. Giving users the ability to hide content on their own pages would have been a good start. (Or at least flagging it for manual review.) That said, there are always idiots you have to ignore. Learning how to balance responsiveness is a real life skill. (As is not giving in to base instincts by insulting those potential idiots.)
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI really appreciate your comment and you being nice... btw, in life, normally, I think I'm really nice to everyone around me... >"You had one opportunity to remove the account of the guy who complained and issue an apology, and you failed." I did take his profile down btw (not much was even written there). He was telling me to take the site down, and being really really rude to me. If he would have asked me nicely, i wouldnt even have said anything to him (a few other ppl had aksed nicely, and i had just taken their profiles down). He tried to be threatening, and saying shit like "How are you not going to take it down after I have told you to!" and then after that, he told me he was going to drag me out of my hostel room and beat me up in the morning. like obv, if someone is being this rude to me, all i can do is tell him to come suck my dick, why would i be nice to him? >"At any point in your negotiations with the Dean" That is exactly what I tried to do. when I went in, I tried to talk to him, explain my side, listen to him, but he was not giving me a chance to speak at all. just freaking out, just saying take the site down. there was no negotiation at all. he literally jsut said 'take it down' no matter what I tried to tell him. what else could I have done at this point
- lovegrenoble 7mo agoYou have to bring it back; it’s your awesome work
- ImPostingOnHN 7mo agoOP: College is a time to make mistakes, and learn from them. Do you feel you learned from your mistakes? Do you feel there has been any conflict with the people who pointed them out? [0][1] Has there been a point when you paused and put serious, private deliberation into the question, "am I wrong?" Like several consecutive minutes, at least? It's ok to ask that question. You're even allowed to do it in the privacy of your own thoughts, where nobody else can judge you. 0 – https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/oppositional-defiant-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20375831 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/oppositional-... 1 – https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-...
- maleldil 7mo ago> Do you feel you learned from your mistakes? Look at their posts in this thread. They're doubling down _hard_.
- nalekberov 7mo agoApparently he got what he deserved, his karma currently is -17 (have never seen a negative karma).
- Imustaskforhelp 7mo agoI am 17 from the same country and this is somewhat juvenile, this isn't an age problem for-the-most-part. The thing I saw was that, they mentioned investor/startup multiple times. I feel like this is their way of getting attention (All PR is good PR) There could've been better ways to handle it and I feel like there was no deeper reflection. One of the things I wish to do after something is to learn from that. I am unable to find that realization sadly :-( Currently in High school, so maybe my expectations were a bit higher of University but I expected better from IIT-Delhi Student/Staff (Both) OP I hope that you can reflect on these things. There are some good things to learn which you are dismissing here, Have a nice day.
- aucisson_masque 7mo agoWhat the fuck is this ? Is this even real ? The author obviously lack maturity, is cocky and I guess we have every reason to hate him. University (from what he wrote) doesn't look bright either but it's India, it's kind of expected.
- isaacryu 7mo agoI don't know how you could write this and possibly think you come across as smart or mature. How you didn't get kicked out immediately is beyond me. These people did not consent to be included in your site; you had no right to air their personal lives because you think it makes you special.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoI dont understand,first off i was not writing the weird comments (there were not that many weird comments anyways, most of it was harmless fun), but still dont you think thats too harsh? Theres like a bunch of websites you could write stuff about people, reddit, twitter even you guys on HN. Why is it such a bad thing i made one for my uni
- porridgeraisin 7mo agoQuite the personality this kid, I must say. The admin behaviour is expected in an Indian context, provided you behave the way this guy did. I am not saying it's good to snatch the guys phone, but it's expected. Let me explain the core issue here. The issue is that if the platform ever devolves into something that can be construed as cyberbullying, then the admin is suddenly in trouble. In the Indian context, elite public colleges like IITD have some students from quite poor non urban backgrounds, These colleges are cheap, have a strict entrance exam (JEE) and there's no money requirement so you have people from all financial strata. As such, the social dynamic is that the parents "entrust" the college with "taking care" of their kid. Especially in first generation educated. In contrast, in private colleges with homogenous, richer families the social dynamic puts more responsibility on the student. The age of 18 is completely irrelevant in this dynamic. The point is, the admin in this college is also somewhat of a caretaker of the students. And will face social liability for cyberbullying "happening under their nose". This is true even if it happens on reddit by the way (and the bully is in the same college). Essentially, if there is a way for the dean to intervene and he doesn't, he has failed in his job as a caretaker. That's the dynamic here. Obviously he has deniability if some random american bullies a IITD kid on say HN. But if a IITD kid bullies a IITD kid on any social platform they will come down on it heavily. Thus, the platform was never going to work and it's problematic before the law even comes into play. Talking about "tell me what rule I broke" without considering the above social dynamics is fairly immature. If they had done the same thing at say an Ashoka University (expensive private college) then they would have faced none of these issues by contrast. If I'm allowed a swipe at the author, this situation is entirely expected given their privileged background.
- liampulles 7mo agoWell Zuckerberg, this is the brainrot staring back at you.
- ball_of_lint 7mo agoWith the writing being at the level that it is, I struggle to take the claim "I was telling him, sir, give me one actual rule im breaking and i'll take the site down" Seriously. OP obviously didn't clearly understand why people were having a negative reaction to the site; I expect they might not recognize rules or laws even if they were cited.
- busymom0 7mo agoI am actually pretty surprised how bad the writing is in the article. As far as I know, IIT is one of the most prestigious universities in India.
- verzali 7mo agoAlso his general reactions and overall maturity seem very poorly developed. I might expect that response from a thirteen year old, but a university student? Really sounds like an arrogant rich kid who has had a lifetime of getting whatever he wants.
- 1whizkid1 7mo agoHow is the writing bad
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- msteffen 7mo agoVery nice thread by the former CEO of Reddit about online behavior, moderation, etc: https://x.com/yishan/status/1586955288061452289 https://x.com/yishan/status/1586955288061452289 Per the thread, it’s possible this problem could’ve been solved by burying the site in affiliate links…
- Tiberium 7mo agohttps://monyatwu.com/dailyblog/day29/ https://monyatwu.com/dailyblog/day29/ > ok so i was just doing marketing, we were uploading rumors and gossip about people.
- dudul 7mo agoI cannot tell if it's satire. The writing gave me a literal headache.
- Jamesbeam 7mo agoIndians amuse me. "My parents are in the military, you can do jack shit". How is military mommy and daddy keeping you from ending up in a Delhi landfill in eight to twelve pieces after being disrespectful to the wrong person? They better try for a smarter son quickly, because you are not getting very old in the place you’re living, pissing people off like that.
- alephnerd 7mo ago> How is military mommy and daddy keeping you from ending up in a Delhi landfill in eight to twelve pieces after being disrespectful to the wrong person Because his dad is a Colonel and a Senior Bureaucrat in the MoD who was in charge of civilian-military airport construction and attended the NDA back in the day. That's the kind of background that means they know who to call. The issue is IITD has plenty of students from similar backgrounds (some of whom appeared to appear to have been targeted on iitsocial) who if they wanted to could also call in favors if they felt vindictive enough. Kids from jawan and shaheed families don't act like this. And this only makes this Mony bloke even more distasteful.
- Jamesbeam 7mo agoThank you for taking some time out of your busy day to give me some valuable background information. I learned something new today, very much appreciated. It’s interesting to see how big the difference in culture is sometimes based on what kind of values you get taught in your military career and at home. My dad was in the military as well, but he would have whooped my ass in front of the whole school and had me personally knock on every dorm room to ask for forgiveness if I had behaved like that instead of doubling down over the phone.
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- hn92726819 7mo agoThis is really cool. Most people here are whining that you, a college student, aren't acting like an adult. I hope you can look past that; it's supposed to be hacker nature to do stupid stuff like this. It bothers me that most comments here are high-and-mighty. Did you guys really do nothing you regret when you were younger?
- BugsJustFindMe 7mo ago> it's supposed to be hacker nature to do stupid stuff like this. I've seen this (or similar) twice in the comments here now, and I'm just astounded by how bad this take is. It's hacker nature to explore. It's even hacker nature to try to break things to see if they can be broken. But it is not hacker nature to think it's cool to precipitate harm to others. That's just being an asshole.
- bitbasher 7mo agoSorry but the author sounds incredibly annoying.
- steelinquisitor 7mo ago1. Is the student information that you scraped publicly available on the Internet or was it necessary to login in order to view the student information now displayed on your website? 2. Did you take down the profile or comments related to S (the “college gangster”) in response to them asking you to?
- jswelker 7mo agoEveryone has mentioned this is ethically bankrupt, and I totally agree. Very little mention of the fact that this project is extremely ho hum from a technical perspective and in terms of creativity. This is maybe 2 steps up from a Hello World example app. It could have mostly been generated by Rails scaffolding script 15 years ago, not even mentioning AI could crap this out in 20 minutes. Most frameworks have build-a-twitter-clone docs that are actually more complex than this. And the idea of people having profiles with the ability to comment on them is pretty much feature zero on every social media app ever. I remember thinking this was cutting edge stuff 20 years ago on Xanga. Cool toy project I guess (morals aside) but not quite the proof of 200 IQ this guy seems to think it is.
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- toraway 7mo agoYeah, and telling the dean he spent 25 sleepless nights on this…
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- jswelker 7mo agoThe reason you don't see it is because it is a massive privacy violation, and also it was move for move done in the plot of the movie Social Network about young Zuck, not exactly a novel idea.
- jjulius 7mo ago>... I do think my design choice were directly responsible for how viral this was, which is something really cool. You've literally admitted to forcefully signing up everyone at your university, and then telling them that you'd done that for them. How can you not see that whatever "virality" you think you had is because of that choice, and not your "design choice"? Are you seriously this daft?
- ThrowawayTestr 7mo agoIf you were 2 decades earlier you could have been Zuckerberg. Hope you learned something from this experience.
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- alsetmusic 7mo ago> satpura hostel kids), yall are some bitches. so be a good bitch and come suck my dick instead of crying to the police and the dean Wow. Not at all sympathetic to this attitude. > At this point I was genuinely feeling really fucking cool, cos I was just thinking this would be a really cool story to tell investors when I have a startup. The site was just booming. I hate what the world has become with adulation of startup culture and influencer chasing. It brings out the worst in people.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo agoESH. The kid displays a continuous lack of self reflection. That doesn’t look great to future investors. (The worst line is “like cos I knew the police can't really tell me to do anyhting, and my parents are in the army too so intimidation obv wont work.” In the end, he got intimidated. And relying on that makes one’s value outside a local context dubious.) That said. He’s a kid. And he showed chutzpah. Certainly nothing horrendous. The dean and authorities come across as power-hungry numpties. Nobody should be losing their temper. They should be able to cite rules and begin disciplinary proceedings and then negotiate afterwards if they want the site taken down.
- toraway 7mo agoI read through this and unless I’m misunderstanding… you did not actually get kicked out of uni? So… you just blatantly lied in the title? I can’t find any charitable ambiguity to explain the disconnect there other than garden variety lying for clout. I know you’re young and I did plenty of dumb things and had an inflated ego at that age myself but you want to seriously consider how poorly this story (and the lying) reflects on your character if any potential employers, acquaintances, dates, etc read this.
- abbbi 7mo agomost cringe read since a long time. This kid needs to grow up. It literally hurts reading his blog posts.
- sevenseacat 7mo agoOh wow, you actually shared the post here yourself, expecting support. Gutsy. Stupid, but gutsy.
- elmean 7mo agome when the adderall and The Social Network sound track start playing in sync
- 1whizkid1 6mo agoI really made this site on adderall lmao
- 1whizkid1 6mo agoOk this was an interesting thread. this is just the start though, yall are gonna see a lot more from me. watch me be the whiz kid billionaire of this generation.
- NackerHughes 6mo agoThe 'DEAN' and his goons in this story is a classic example of a psychopath. > The moment I entered the room, the Dean just started shouting at me. > while we were leaving, the Security Officer saw my phone was recording. and this is where all hell broke loose. > one of the security guys just held me. and started being rough with me. like pushing me around and shit. > Everyone was shouting at me, i felt like I was being harrassed at this point, and honestly, it's a little embarissing, but i just got overwhelmed. like with all this shit. I started crying, literally balling my eyes out. > Then the dean called me to his office. To his credit, like i guess seeing me cry and be so sad, the dean became really really nice. > to the dean's credit, like half an hour later, he literally came to my room, to check up on me and that i was good. like that's really nice of him, he didnt have to do that. Textbook case of abuse. Scream at a child who's smaller than you, don't let him get a word in edgeways, physically assault him when he attempts to hold you accountable, then when he finally crumbles, act all sweet and sugary like you've done him a favour. The dean is the real asshole in this story. It's psychopathic abusers like that who need to be removed from educational institutions. Places where they can wield their power like a weapon, abusing it against people who they know can't fight back and give them what they really deserve.