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Pixel 10 Phones
- lofaszvanitt 1y agoStill boring, indistinguishable from the rest, and still hideous. Hire a proper designer for fucks sake. Ridiculous everugly phone.
- the__alchemist 1y agoLooks like they're still only available in "Huge" and "comically oversized". I guess I can keep buying Pixel 4s until new ones (req for battery) are no longer available.
- tetris11 1y agoIt's sad what they did to the Pixel 4a's battery, because that phone was otherwise comfort perfection
- mnmalst 1y agoStill using mine on the stock rom. Mine was luckily not effected by the battery problems. Such a good phone.
- metalliqaz 1y agoI really liked my Pixel4 but in 2025 the hardware and software are getting too out of date.
- sudokatsu 1y agoReally wish they would at least make the Fold a reasonable size when closed. It would scratch my smaller phone itch, and offer a larger screen when I actually do want one. Currently it’s “comically oversized” when folded, and literal tablet when open.
- ortusdux 1y agoI'd hoped others would copy/iterate the Flip form factor. A friend has one and it does feel great. I just don't get along with the Samsung software suite.
- lawn 1y agoI'd buy a Flip as soon as I can install GrapheneOS on it. With the popularity of the Flip I can only hope I won't have to wait too long.
- borgel 1y agoI've enjoyed using a Moto razr+ 2024. If you're interested in trying one check out used devices, their value seems to crater. I think I got mine for ~$300 last year on eBay (while it was still the current gen device)
- leetharris 1y agoI just went from a Z Fold 5 to a Z Fold 7 and I hate it for this exact reason. Z Fold 6 and earlier were slim, one handed use phones when folded, small tablet when opened. Now it's just a regular phone, and a medium tablet when I open it. First phone I've ever regretted upgrading to.
- AshamedCaptain 1y agoConsumers have spoken though. Same as dropping the stylus...
- sylos 1y agoI dont think consumers have as much influence as people believe.
- andrepd 1y agoPixel 5 is about as big, but yes, that's as far as it goes. Unfortunately that goes for virtually any phone on the market... Sad.
- jauntywundrkind 1y agoI keep thinking of how the Nexus 7 has a 7.02" screen. And how modern phones tend to be 6.1 - 6.9". But never quite 7!
- mmmlinux 1y agoDont worry theyll all be pushing 8 now that the barrier has been broken.
- kcb 1y agoIt's not really comparable because the Nexus 7 has a 16:10 screen. Looking just at the size in inches without the aspect ratio is really only part of the picture. The Nexus 7 is like twice the width of a phone.
- 51Cards 1y agoI still carry my Pixel 5 for this reason. 2 replacement batteries in now and I have a spare sitting on a shelf. That said the Pixel 9A is tempting as it's not much larger than my Pixel 5. I hate that the finger print readers have moved to the front though. The sensor on the back of my 5 is perfectly postioned and also acts like a little track-pad for opening the notification tray. It was a perfect design IMO.
- bsimpson 1y ago> a spare sitting on a shelf Does that work for batteries? I feel like unused batteries tend to become unusable batteries.
- avidiax 1y agoWould be better in a drawer in the refrigerator. Calendar aging for batteries is mostly about the temperature and storage SoC, which should be in the 30-50% level.
- prmoustache 1y agoI've had a "spare" smartphone kept in a drawer for a year and when I needed it it was impossible to charge and I've never been able to wake it up.
- 51Cards 1y agoSorry, my wording was misleading there. A spare Pixel 5 on the shelf so if something happens to this one I have an immediate replacement. I pop it onto a charger every couple months to prevent the battery from going too low.
- _blk 1y agoAgreed on battery. I started with a 6a and only ever had the fingerprint in the front. I thought it's well designed and works well (as long as I stick to office job activities.. as soon as you start doing handy works it has its issues.. same for Px7).
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- markasoftware 1y agoI agree, but I got the Pixel 5 instead; the 5 is actually smaller while the screen size is larger due to the curved screen corners. It also has a fingerprint sensor, unlike the 4. That being said, I still miss the squeeze-activated flashlight on the 4.
- _giorgio_ 1y agoUntil I purchased a Pixel 8a, I thought the same thing. I discovered that all the newer pant models that I purchased have bigger pockets, so that's not a problem anymore.
- bityard 1y ago"Just buy bigger pants" is the 2025 version of "you're holding it wrong"?
- _giorgio_ 1y agoNo, I simply noticed that all my very old pants (that I don't use anymore), have very small pockets, and that all the new pants have very big pockets. My opinion on small vs big screen is all based on that.
- throw-the-towel 1y agoI just hope that all the newer body models I purchase have bigger hands.
- Mistletoe 1y agohttps://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/095D61DA-16CE-47D3-A4691B4BBEEEE0FC_source.jpg?w=1350 https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/095D6... Shot of humans from the future.
- _giorgio_ 1y agoI have probably normal hands, and I feel that the pixel 8a is perfect, and that I could use a bigger one too. You can choose the size of the keyboard, if this worries you.
- layer8 1y agoThat doesn't solve the weight problem.
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- madduci 1y agoMe crying for a newer Nexus 4, the best device in terms of quality/price ever made by Google
- bscphil 1y agoBest phone I've ever owned and it's not close. Every phone since then has been a compromise, to the point that (in a sunk cost fallacy kind of way) I've just quit caring about phones and just buy whatever the cheapest available unlocked device is. I run them into the ground (way past the end-of-service date) because I know the next one is going to be worse.
- Grazester 1y agoThe Nexus 4 was a nice phone but I thought the battery life was bad and it also ran hot. My Moto-X was truly next level. It was oled and could do always on display that didn't need to power the blacks pixels on the screen. It was the first phone to do this. It has voice recognition for unlocking (getting info that you couldn't when the phone was locked). First to do this too since I believe it uses dedicated hardware at the time. It also knew when I was driving to unlock the phone for voice commands also. It was small.
- nunez 1y agoNice throwback. The Moto X was awesome. Damn, phones were so exciting back then.
- nuancebydefault 1y agoI loved my nexus 4! It's a pity that I at one point could not use it anymore because the updates made it unusable slow.
- rchaud 1y agoThat phone had the worst camera I've ever used. I loved having it because it was XDA custom ROM-friendly, but good lord, that camera....
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- poisonborz 1y agoThere are no alternatives. S25 is 6.2, and Pixels put the Pro/best version in 6.3, while on Samsung you get a step up to 6.7 and 6.9. Much better specs on almost the same size.
- pelagicAustral 1y agos25 is super manageable, it's the most comfy phone I've had since ever.
- daemonologist 1y agoI replaced my 4a (which is not particularly small) after Google nerfed the battery into oblivion, but every once in a while I get it out of its drawer and am always immediately struck by how much better the form factor is. Using a modern phone with a 6+ inch screen feels like trying to tie a knot with one hand.
- jama211 1y agoI have this experience… until I turn it on and start to try and type stuff on the tiny keyboard or watch stuff on it again. Then I realise I’m glad I moved up a little
- red369 1y agoI agree with you, but I like the reminder that I probably shouldn't be using my phone for whatever I'm doing anyway. If I'm at home, I should make the small effort to get a tablet or a laptop. If I'm out, should I just set a reminder and do it later and listen to something instead? I realise that for many people, that time might be their only time available for doing whatever they were going to do, but on the other hand when I look at what other people use their phones for when they're out, it rarely looks important to me. Even the stuff people are doing for fun doesn't look much fun. Definitely not compared with the people who have also lugged a Switch/e-reader/actual book.
- jama211 1y agoThat seems pretty judgemental. Lots of things I do that might not “look important” can be very important. I do a lot of work on my phone including research that would look like browsing to a bystander.
- red369 1y agoYup - I think that's fair. It is completely a value judgement. But without ill will, and not particularly heartfelt. Regarding your point about things that are actually work in disguise, I basically look at browsing web pages as productive work these days compared to alternatives. There are only so many people who can be moderators working for TikTok, or researching endless-scroll or content recommendation algorithms. :) But even taking what people are doing at face-value, perhaps TikTok/Reels/Shorts is actually important for their wellbeing. I think it is more likely harmful, but I'm guessing. I think it would be better if people spent less time looking at phone screens (no matter how big), but as long as it's their choice, people should do what they want to do! I have a vague concern that people might be increasingly doing something that they want to do in the short term, but not in the long term, but probably that's always been the way.
- zamadatix 1y agoIt's interesting how this type of feedback always comes up for phones yet smaller phones have an extremely hard time actually selling enough units to justify making more of them. It seems part of it may be folks remaining in this group seem much more willing to stick with old devices anyways, helping drive less priority for small sizes on top of already being a smaller market segment. Perhaps there are some other big factors beyond those two things too.
- battesonb 1y agoI'm exactly that person. Always running an older device and lamenting the lack of small devices. Unfortunately, the mainstream wants big devices, so we all get big devices.
- silotis 1y agoThe problem is for many years now the smallest phone available has been getting larger and larger. This has lead small phone enthusiasts to cling to their old phones as long as they can stand it until they are forced to step to a larger model.
- coldpie 1y ago> yet smaller phones have an extremely hard time actually selling enough units to justify making more of them I don't buy this. The iPhone 13 Mini all by itself sold 6 million units in a year. That's about half the rate of Google's entire Pixel lineup. The market is small, yeah, but it definitely exists. I think a company could quietly make a high quality, straightforward, small Android device with maybe every-other-year hardware updates, and run away with a whole corner of the market all to itself.
- wijwp 1y agoYou can't just look at units sold, you have to look at net units sold because the version of the product existed. For example, if 5.9 million of those 6 million people would have bought the larger iPhone model anyway, then you didn't actually gain much by offering the Mini unit. I have no idea what those numbers are, though.
- Mistletoe 1y agoJust bought a used iPhone 13 Mini last week to replace my 12 Mini. This has to last me...apparently until the heat death of the universe.
- nunez 1y agoI love my 13 mini but its battery is just too anemic. Slapping a MagSafe battery on it defeats the purpose of having a small phone. My 16 Pro lasts me all day, but I absolutely hate using it, as I don't do very much with my phone in the first place. I feel stuck.
- Mistletoe 1y agoWhy does it run out so fast? I thought the 13 Mini had pretty good battery life? They say it is much better than my 12 Mini which I do fine with in one day. What's your battery health at?
- nunez 1y agoTwo reasons. First is age. These devices are 5-7 years old. Many are using their original batteries, which have several dead cells. So they literally have less capacity than they did back then. Second is JavaScript, in my opinion. I can often see my battery drain in real time when I use the browser, even when Low Power Mode is on. Demanding client side JavaScript is a big reason for that. You also have extensions doing stuff on pre/post-load that also contribute to power usage. Finally, so many web developers test against modern devices, and there isn't enough demand to warrant accommodating less powerful CPUs/SOCs. You can try to use the web without JS, but you'll find that many websites will think that you're a bot and block you.
- jakub_g 1y agoI'm afraid you might be right. Former user of 3a, I upgraded to 6 but it was way too big and heavy, and had a weird mass balance. I'm now on 8 and it has perfect size and weight IMO (using it with a recommended Spigen case). Looks like 10 is +17g heavier than 8 and 1-2 mm bigger. Not as big as 6 but almost as heavy. https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=13979&idPhone2=12546 https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=13979&idPhone2=...
- GuB-42 1y agoThe size is about what every manufacturer settled on, and what most people want, it is unfortunate that smaller phones are not an option but it doesn't sell. What bugs me however is that thin body with a huge camera bulge. Do anybody actually like that? It looks ridiculous, and the bulge defeats the point of having a thin phone. If you can't make the camera thinner, make the phone thicker, there is plenty of things you can do with more space: bigger battery, better speaker, more powerful vibration, more robust, etc...
- 627467 1y agoI dont really buy the issue with "there's no market" just look at the pc market: isnt there are market for convertibles, laptops, tablet+keyboard, different OS, all sorts of sizes... how different is the android phone ecosystem?
- GuB-42 1y agoThere is a market, it is just not lucrative enough for big players to take it. There is however a company that caters to these niches: Unihertz The have small phones, massive phones with huge batteries, rugged phones, phones with keyboards,... From what I have seen, not great on the software side though, and they have entry-level specs, with prices to match. It is a Chinese company.
- abrahadabra 1y agoSamsung S25 is just 3 mm bigger than Pixel 4a. Is that too much of a difference?
- culi 1y agoThe only way Google phones keep up with the battery lives of iPhones is to have larger batteries. iPhone gets the same battery time with a much smaller battery. Unfortunately I think this means Google will keep having to sell huge phones for a while
- ChrisRR 1y agoI just want a 5.5" phone. I'm not even asking for one of these tiny 4" phones like some people, just slightly smaller so that it can be used one handed
- SomeHacker44 1y agoI got a Motorola Razr 2025 Ultra. You can use it closed. Open it is narrower but taller than a Pixel. It fits in my pocket easily.
- chrismcb 1y agoI get, I guess it is the "comically oversized"phone and I consider it to small. So...
- jandrese 1y ago> Pixel 10, Pixel 10 Pro and Pixel 10 Pro XL are all available for preorder today starting at $799, $999 and $1199. No Pixel 10a was announced, and frankly Google's track record with hardware is a bit discouraging for someone thinking about spending a grand on a phone.
- zanecodes 1y agoThe -a models are typically released in the spring, the Pixel 9a was only just released in April of this year, so I wouldn't expect to see a Pixel 10a until March or April of 2026.
- throwawaylaptop 1y agoI got my entire family Pixel 4XLs when they were new. Every single one had the battery replaced once under warranty, and then they denied more batteries (it was actually the fragile connector). So I started replacing them myself. I even slightly modified the connector mount so it would stop failing. The third batteries ended up lasting years because of my modification. Finally, all 3 died around 2023 from motherboard problems apparently. Otherwise great phones. Sad that some weird hardware problems killed them all for most people.
- mrbluecoat 1y agoThat 100X zoom example is pretty amazing
- xnx 1y agoYes, but hard to know how much detail is hallucinated out of thin air.
- vaughnegut 1y agoIn fairness it's AI "upscaled". What kind of car that is isn't actually present in the original image's data, it's a best guess from the AI.
- crinkly 1y agoIt's probably impossible to use as well. Just a 10x is fairly difficult to control. Plus AI upscaling. Fuck no.
- levitate 1y agoShouldn't be impossible. Samsung already offers Space Zoom which has a good UX and a LOT of image stabilization so your hands shaking isn't magnified by 100x. As far as AI upscaling though, agreed. At least make a setting so we can do our own A/B tests.
- RankingMember 1y agoEver since magic eraser we've been slip-sliding down the slippery slope that ends with all our picture memories being half-AI-generated with the same "look" based on whatever flavor generated them at the time.
- do_not_redeem 1y ago> Pro Res Zoom uses Tensor G5 and an all-new generative imaging model to intelligently recover and refine intricate details. Reminds me of https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moon-photos-ai-galaxy-s21-s23-ultra https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moo... I guess we'll never be able to trust any photos taken with a Pixel 10 or above.
- andrepd 1y agoReally hope that can be disabled.
- subscribed 1y agoSo far all the camera features are available through the API (and not hidden behind drm), so you could potentially use something like ProShot.
- andrepd 1y agoHow so? I was under the impression that gCam uses proprietary algos.
- lbrito 1y agoYeah. So basically the trend now is to stop actually improving things and have AI make shit up to fill the gaps and pretend we're improving things.
- zanecodes 1y agoI look forward to the news stories about people getting lost because they used 100x "zoom" to read a distant sign.
- pphysch 1y agoGetting confused by distant street signs with a $1K GPS device in your pocket. Come now.
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- jjice 1y ago> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. Running Gemini Nano on device is the most interesting thing here. Magic Cue sounds exactly like the Siri improvements that Apple failed to launch this past year (and have stayed mostly quiet about for this coming year, except saying "eventually"). I hope it works well, because on-device AI for simple lookups and such is actually one of the most interesting use cases for LLMs on mobile phones to me. I love the idea of an on-device model that I can say something like "who's going to the baseball game this weekend" and it'll intelligently check my calendar and see who's listed. Or saying something like "how much was the dinner at McDoogle's last week?" and have it check digital wallet transactions. There are so many possibilities. I assume this kind of thing would just be implemented as tool calls with app intents. I hope we see this across the board in the next three years.
- delichon 1y agoOr for the police, "list any legally questionable content on the phone or behavior by the owner."
- killingtime74 1y agoThe model might even make something up, giving police "reasonable suspicion". Not that it seems it's needed anymore in the US
- jonbiggums22 1y agoAI is about to put drug sniffing dogs out of a job.
- gruez 1y agoWhy would the police bother with that when they have forensic extraction tools, that itself possibly has AI built in? Why trust a quantized model on a phone that possibly could give you wrong answers?
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- Depurator 1y agoI'm curious what kind of performance the Tensor G5 would have with llama.cpp, compared to a 16gb desktop gpu.
- sam1234apter 1y agoBattery life looks great
- barbazoo 1y ago> They feature our biggest batteries That's the only thing I found on there. Doesn't even say if it lasts longer than the previous generation.
- LucidLynx 1y ago> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. YES! Here we talk. The fact we can now host a version of an AI model, and make sure everything is processed locally and is not sent to the cloud is the best feature of those phones. I just hope that data do not leave the phone OR are encrypted to be stored in Google servers...
- jjulius 1y agoWhy do we need brand new models every year?
- AstroBen 1y agoSo that people that buy that year can get the latest improvements They're not releasing them on your personal upgrade schedule
- sowbug 1y agoYou probably don't, as your current phone ought to last for years. But hardware manufacturers, like software developers, benefit from faster release cycles.
- kevincox 1y agoBecause even if your phone only breaks every 5 years on average do you want to get a new 5 year old phone because your last one died right before the refresh cycle? Having regular releases means that when you do get the phone you have a relatively up-to-date device with latest hardware improvements. You don't need to upgrade yearly because they release a new phone yearly.
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- Workaccount2 1y agoPeople are on different phone cycles. Even if most people update once every 5 years, it only takes 5 distinct groups to warrant a yearly new phone.
- nfriedly 1y agoLooks like a minor improvement to the pixel 9 series. Honestly, that's fine, I'm pretty happy with my Pixel 9 Pro. The built-in magsafe charging magnets are a nice addition, although a case with magnets in it works for me for now. Of course, the #1 feature I'd like to see is expandable storage, which Google seems to be strangely against. #2 would be a headphones jack - Google has already reversed course on that one once, but another reversal seems unlikely.
- RankingMember 1y agoAs much as I'd love if phones still had headphone jacks, the inertia sure seems to be going the other direction. I fully anticipate the power port will be the next to go and wireless charging will be the only way to charge (and I don't want that either).
- VTimofeenko 1y agoYeah, I am on Pixel 9 pro too and quick trade in check shows that upgrade would cost net ~500$(256Gb). Arguably ~250$ if buying 10 would extend the gemini subscription for a year -- not sure about the verbiage of the terms here. 100x "composite" zoom is nice but not sure if it's worth it.
- nfriedly 1y agoOh, and it's too late to edit, but I just noticed they removed the physical SIM and force you to use an eSIM now. That feels like a significant downgrade.
- tootie 1y agoI haven't noticed a major difference in any phone I've owned for 6 or 7 years at least.
- jmcphers 1y agoI'm delighted to see that they don't make you get the biggest phone in order to get the best cameras. I've been using Pixels since the Pixel 3 and always feel like I'm making compromises in the camera department in order to get a phone that will actually fit in my hand/pocket.
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- hypeatei 1y agoThe "magic cue" sounds like Windows CoPilot but isn't getting the same backlash for some reason. Why would I want AI tightly woven into everything I'm doing on my phone? Seems like a privacy nightmare.
- charlie-83 1y agoI would guess because the windows recall stores screenshots of everything you do forever while this just watches and pops up without storing information that could later be used against you. Of course, it could be secretly recording but if you are concerned about that you need to install grapheneOS or something. Not that I like this feature or think there aren't privacy concerns.
- rezonant 1y agoThey said Magic Cue is done entirely on device and as far as I can tell does not involve saving screenshots of your activities to the device like Windows Recall* did- rather it can look at things like your email and other data that is on the device to determine what to suggest * Windows Copilot is different from Recall, which is the one that saved screenshots of what you were doing periodically
- _blk 1y agoPhones are not the hot commodity they used to be anymore and that's a good thing IMHO. I just bought a Px7 after breaking my 6a that I had for 3 years. I did look at the Px10 specs but with the price/value it was an easy decision. I'm now expecting the same 3y worth of battery I was getting out of my 6a (a day started getting tight at the end). Bigger still seems to be the definition of better but I had a CAT S60 for a while, so it's still small compared to that brick. Overall very happy with the Px series and I'm happy they keep making them. On the software side it runs Graphene OS just as well as the 6a. Setup was super easy with the Chromium WebUSB based installer. I expect the Px10 to be supported soon too.
- codeduck 1y agoGod, what an ugly device.
- neural_thing 1y agoDon't all phones look extremely similar today? Maybe I'm old but no two phones today seem as different as e.g. Nokia 8800 was from Motorola Razr
- lern_too_spel 1y agoYes, I don't know why they bother showing the phone turned off anymore. They all look the same. The materials might be different, and that's where a lot of companies go wrong. The Pixel 10 uses polished glass, which is too slippery. It slides off uneven surfaces and is harder to hold.
- gpm 1y ago> all phones Eh... https://www.samsung.com/ca/smartphones/galaxy-z-flip7/buy/ https://www.samsung.com/ca/smartphones/galaxy-z-flip7/buy/ https://www.samsung.com/ca/smartphones/others/galaxy-xcover7-pro-black-128gb-sm-g766wzkdn45/ https://www.samsung.com/ca/smartphones/others/galaxy-xcover7... Both from the same company and I think about an equal distance between them as the Nokia 8800 and a similarly dated Motorola Razr.
- thebruce87m 1y agoIf you own a pixel phone remember to do regular emergency call tests. They have a bug that has stuck around for generations but for some reason they get a pass. https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1ano09x/pixel_8_still_has_the_911_calling_bug/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1ano09x/pixel_... https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1jzo5hu/pixel_9_pro_xl_emergency_calls_do_not_work/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1jzo5hu/pixel_...
- denysvitali 1y ago> regular emergency call tests This sounds like a huge waste of time for the dispatch operators if everyone starts to do such tests regularly. On a similar note, it would be great (especially for these tests) if carriers provided a non-emergency / echo number that gets treated the same way as an emergency call (works w/o SIM card, gets preferential treatment, ...)
- barbazoo 1y agoWhen phones are no longer considered reliable to make emergency calls in certain places, what alternative is there? Sure it sucks for the operator to get a call, "Sorry, just testing to make sure emergency calling works, thanks, bye" and it would also suck, probably even more, for an individual to not be able to make an emergency call. Squeaky wheel gets the grease, hopefully someone improves the system, lol.
- tgv 1y agoFrequently calling the alarm number without a valid reason can be fined up to 6700 euro, or result in 3 months detention here. So if Pixel still has this bug, that's just another reason not to buy a Google product.
- shawnz 1y agoWhat's the threshold by which a phone isn't considered reliable enough to make emergency calls? I've never personally had an emergency call fail on a Pixel device, and I don't know the broader statistics of how often they fail for other people compared to other phones. Do you?
- sparrish 1y agoThat camera bump is huge. I guess that's how you get the great zoom? Phone cases are doing heavy lifting to smooth out the back of this phone.
- kevincox 1y agoOn the other hand I much prefer the full-width bump than a corner bump. It helps when holding your phone (a ledge for your fingers) and means that the phone doesn't rock around when used on a table.
- Freak_NL 1y agoI made a leather pouch with a belt loop for my Pixel 6. Great when travelling or hiking. The camera band sits above the edge of the front of the pouch with the 'lid' covering that when the pouch is closed with a tuck lock. The full-width band is just perfect for grabbing the phone and lifting it out of the form-fitting pouch, and doubles as a sort of safety preventing it from slipping from your grip.
- nancyminusone 1y agoToo bad it can't be smoothed out (with more battery or something) to start with. That bump is more than 1/4 of the phone's total thickness. This is becoming comical.
- Johnny555 1y agoThe camera bump (rather than a full-size thickness increase) makes the phone feel less massive, especially in your pocket.
- nancyminusone 1y agoI don't need it to "feel" less massive. Most wallets are thicker and I don't hear anyone complain.
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- piperswe 1y agoI wonder how they'll screw it up this time. I have to deal with a pink line down my Pixel 8's screen, because while there is an extended warranty for that issue, you need to flash the stock firmware (wiping the device) to put it in "service mode" so uBreakIFix can do their thing.
- thewebguyd 1y agoThat's the problem with pixel. Everytime I try to switch from iPhone, ever year's line up has some glaring GC issue. I've tried every year since the 2XL. Most recent is the 9 Pro XL (only the XL size) the camera bar falling off. The pixels could be amazing phones if Google could fix their crappy QC and invest in some actual customer support. People like Apple - you can go to a physical store and get support. You can get AppleCare+ and have accidental damage replacements, battery replacements, etc just take it to the store. Google doesn't have that, they don't have a physical presence, and it's nearly impossible to get a human and if you do, they are really stingy about RMAs.
- pphysch 1y agoYou have bought and returned new Pixel phones every year for the last 7 years due to QC? That sounds like a tall tale.
- thewebguyd 1y agoI'm really picky. Creaks, screen issues (got the line down the middle of the screen on a 2XL, 3, and 6), speaker went out on 5, cell radio would randomly stop working on the 8, having to reboot multiple times per day. Most recently a 9 Pro XL, flexed more than my wife's, and the screen creaked when pressed (which my wife's didn't). The camera bump falling off didn't happen to me, but I've seen it on others. If I'm going to pay Apple prices, I expect the same level of quality. I really want to like the pixel, but I can't trust Google's quality until they prove otherwise. Every generation of Pixel has had some sort of QC problem.
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- qwertox 1y agoGoogle is being deceptive with their zoom demo. They zoom from 100x to 0.5x and present 0.5x as "what it actually looks like." They're making 100x zoom appear twice as impressive by using ultra-wide (0.5x) as fake 'normal' vision.
- Workaccount2 1y agoI'm pretty sure that was just an accident, if you pinch all the ways out it goes seamlessly to the wide angle lens.
- gowld 1y ago0.5x is 0.5x, not "what it actually looks like." The deceptive part is using AI to creatively fill in gaps in the picture, and saying "recover and refine intricate details" when the details are actually hallucinated, making that blue car look like a drawing of a toy.
- ucarion 1y agoKind of moot anyway; 100x zoom is equivalent to a 2400mm lens (with no stabilization assist). If you can hand-aim that on target, you're an elite marksman.
- bityard 1y ago> Pixel 10, Pixel 10 Pro and Pixel 10 Pro XL are all available for preorder today starting at $799, $999 and $1199. Sigh, still not going to pay more for a phone than I paid for my computer. Also, what is up with that camera module? This doesn't look like it can physically slide into jeans pockets. At least round the corners or add little ramps. I guess this is what happens when design folk are allowed to trump engineers.
- JoshTriplett 1y ago> This doesn't look like it can physically slide into jeans pockets. I'm interested to hear more about this, because it's always interesting to understand how other people interact with things who have different use cases or usage models. How tight are your jeans, and how do you fit anything else in your pocket if something ~1in thick doesn't fit comfortably (without having to force the pocket open in a way that would require a "ramp")? Are you using your back pockets? I have never once understood the utility of those; I have no desire to sit on anything in my pockets.
- greycol 1y agoA lot of people buy clothes for their looks with minimal weighting towards functionality (or rather that is the functionality). If you've got a body in reasonable nick then tight pants can look good. The traditional solution to poor pockets is a purse or bag. Phones are interesting in that they can demand attention and that they are probably the most used item that people carry around with them. Thus people compromise their lines/comfort to actually use the faster accessibility of pockets. Probably explains the popularity of ridge wallets and key wallets too.
- rchaud 1y agoI don't wear tight jeans and I've come to loathe having to put my phone in my pants pocket. If you're walking around a lot, the feeling is just annoying, you can feel it pressing on your leg the whole time. When I sit down, the bunching feeling is even worse, so I immediately put the phone on the table. This wasn't an issue when phones had 4.7"-5"-inch screens. Nowadays the phone goes into the cargo pocket if I'm wearing shorts, or back pocket if I'm walking.
- wishfish 1y agoI hope there's an improved screen. I bought a 9 Pro XL with hopes of running GrapheneOS but the PWM on the Pixel was terrible. Instant headaches. I can more or less get by ok with recent iPhone screens but the Pixel screen didn't work at all for me. Heard a rumor that Google was going to take eye strain seriously for this version. Hope that's true.
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- drewbitt 1y agoYou can't install any of the AI models on the Pixel 9 if you have the bootloader unlocked. Wouldn't be surprised that Gemini Nano or Pro Res Zoom didn't work, either.
- LeoPanthera 1y agoI'm not an Android user, so pardon me if this is a stupid thing to say, but it's weird to me that these phones apparently have some new UI unique to them. I thought Android was just Android. Won't other Android phones get this update?
- pphysch 1y agoNot all phones capable of running Android (everything?) have the hardware to host the local LLM models at a useful level of performance.
- xxmarkuski 1y agoAndroid is not just Android. The device vendors have to customize it to fit their devices by including drivers for example. Device vendors have the option to change the look pretty heavily, Samsung TouchWiz was infamous, Chinese vendors also offer very customized versions, including making it look like iOS. What you are seeing is material design 3 "expressive" which will be rolled out in the next minor Android version and Google apps
- JoshTriplett 1y agoI really wish they'd upgrade the Pro Fold to have the Pro camera system. :( I don't know why they assume that someone buying a $2000 phone doesn't want the best available camera.
- ncr100 1y agoAgreed - it's surprising to call it Pixel 10 PRO Fold, when it is lacking one of the "Pro" features. Seems like a DISCOUNT is in order.
- JoshTriplett 1y agoI don't want a discount; I want a better camera.
- cft 1y agoDoes the camera module still fall off like on the Pixel 9? https://www.google.com/search?q=reddit+pixel+camera+falling https://www.google.com/search?q=reddit+pixel+camera+falling
- silisili 1y agoI know it's a petty thing, but I quit using the Pixel when they forced an unmovable and unhideable search bar onto the bottom of the homescreen. Can anyone report if that's still the case? I know custom launchers exist, but I'd really rather not go that route.
- spogbiper 1y agoits still there on my pixel 9 in the stock/default launcher, but you can still use an alternative launcher if you like. many of those do not have the bar or let you toggle it off.
- setay11 1y agoYou can just use a custom launcher. I've been using Nova Launcher for so long I couldn't tell you what the normal homescreen looks like right now.
- ZeWaka 1y agoNova launcher is fantastic.
- lern_too_spel 1y ago> I know custom launchers exist, but I'd really rather not go that route. If you switched to a different phone, it is using a different launcher. If your only complaint is the launcher, it doesn't make sense to change the whole phone.
- ritzaco 1y agoI was gonna say it's definitely not there on mine but I just checked and it is. Amazing how good my mental adblocker is for things I've been looking at every day for 2 years.
- frankfrank13 1y ago> A camera with Gemini and im out > Exclusive to the Pixel 10 Pro and 10 Pro XL, Pro Res Zoom captures astonishing detail at up to 100x zoom. It isn't just a simple crop; Pro Res Zoom uses Tensor G5 and an all-new generative imaging model to intelligently recover and refine intricate details. bro in your demo the car is a half el-camino half mustang
- dtf 1y agoI wonder if these new devices will finally have support for the elusive APV codec. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Professional_Video https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Professional_Video
- andrewinardeer 1y agoThe link you posted says Android 16 support. Why wouldn't Pixel run it?
- dtf 1y agoThis codec needs hardware support to be practical (ie recording live video rather than just transcoding). So far, I think that's only available on certain Samsung models.
- ortusdux 1y agoAI assisted zoom is interesting. Will it invent license plate numbers, guess what faces look like, or just output high resolution blurs?
- ryandvm 1y agoCorrect me if I'm wrong, but I believe the AI is using video (i.e. multiple frames) to put together enough information for the zoom to be as accurate as possible. That said, I don't know if there's enough information to do 100X.
- ZeWaka 1y agoThey already have this on the pixel 9s with their 20x super zoom. I haven't noticed any weird artifacts like this from my usage. It just appears as indistinguishable camera fuzz - hard to describe.
- mg 1y agoThe people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unsorted photos are. When I sit in a bus or in a cafe, I go through it and sort the new photos into folders. This seems impossible on iPhones. Everything stays in the main folder forever. You can add photos to albums, but that does not remove them from the main folder. So there is no way to know which photos I have already sorted. 3: On Android I can use Chrome. Which means web apps can use the File System Access API. This makes web apps first class productivity applications I can use to work on my local files. Impossible on iPhones. I'm sure people who prefer iPhones have their own set of "this clicks with me on iPhones and puzzles me on Pixels" aspects? Is this a "left brain vs right brain" type of thing? Do most HNers prefer Androids?
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- cm2012 1y agoI think for most people its just whatever you are used to. That said I can't stand iPhone. My wife also switched to Android after being jealous of some features on my phone.
- thewebguyd 1y ago> I think for most people its just whatever you are used to. Or in the US, it's whatever your family and/or circle of friends use, RCS or not. iMessage lock in is real (along with Facetime, Airdrop, Apple Pay, etc.)
- criddell 1y agoI have an iPhone because at the time I bought it I liked the size (Mini 13) and it's fine. Before that I had some Android phone and it was fine too. I've never understood the strong emotions people have attached to these things. About the only thing I'm looking forward to when I upgrade my phone in a couple of years is getting a better camera. Phones were pretty exciting for a while, but now? It feels like a mature segment and not much is changing anymore.
- dzonga 1y agocan these guys now actually make phones that don't overheat or have battery problems ?
- Jabbles 1y ago> For instance, when you're calling an airline, it can automatically find your flight details from your email and display it during your phone call. Is this really the best example usecase they can think of? How often does an individual call an airline? I'm sure in aggregate they get a lot of calls, but I don't think I've ever had to. It just seems really weird that this is the top example of on-device AI. The other examples mentioned, like "finding the right photos to share with a friend", seem more relatable.
- 6thbit 1y agoIt is odd that they considered that a common usecase. Perhaps they really wanted to show a good looking widget and I suppose flight info was the best candidate. I have had some calls with family or friends about an upcoming flight where this could've saved a few seconds. Would I want to save a few seconds in exchange for their processing of my whole conversation even if offline? That's another story.
- rs186 1y agoTo me it's a solution looking for a problem. Just revisit Microsoft's marketing material for their Copilot products. Bizarre use cases one after another.
- tick_tock_tick 1y ago> How often does an individual call an airline? It's a very simple example that people can see the value for right away. It also acts as a good placeholder for hotel, car rental agency, restaurant, etc. Any place you'd have a ticket/reservation for that you might need to call.
- rs186 1y agoLike parent, I did not "see the value" "right away", but on the contrary, I am more confused about what the phone brings.
- varbhat 1y agoI want to know how the TSMC-manufactured Tensor processors compares to Samsung-manufactured Tensor processors and also how TSMC-manufactured Tensor processors compare to TSMC-manufactured Snapdragon processors. Samsung's Tensors (also Exynos) had the fame of getting superhot. I want to know if these problems persist in new Tensor chips.
- fariszr 1y agoDon't hold your breath, the tensor g5 is slower than a snapdragon 8 Gen 3
- binary132 1y agoInsanely hideous.
- mrbonner 1y agoIf we can somehow put AI agent locally on a phone that could use tools (cough: APIs) I think it will be the wildest revolution after the invention of a smart phone. How about a truly smart phone!
- bsimpson 1y agometa: It's getting to the point where I need to pay for The Verge or stop reading it. Every one of their Pixel articles is behind a paywall.
- thewebguyd 1y agoarchive.org
- mrintegrity 1y agoMy dream is to have a phone like this that supports thunderbolt host mode, runs grapheneos or similar and can drive a couple of displays via usb-c docking station. With the memory and CPU this phone could easily replace my work laptop (vscode and ssh for the most part). Sadly I haven't found any phone that would make this possible (Samsung Dex doesn't count because it's proprietary)
- shawnz 1y agoAndroid 16 will have this (at least for a single external display): https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/06/developer-preview-enhanced-android-desktop-experiences-connected-displays.html?m=1 https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/06/developer-...
- overfeed 1y ago> My dream is to have a phone like this that supports thunderbolt host mode, runs grapheneos or similar and can drive a couple of displays via usb-c docking station Sounds like you're thinking of the stock Pixel 10. Google worked with Samsung to bring the Dex experience to upstream Android, and their Linux VM work is almost fully baked in Android 15. Running VSCode and ssh can be done today with a Pixel phone plugged into a USB-C hub, keyboard, mouse and a monitor. I don't know why Google isn't promoting this capability yet,
- mrintegrity 1y agoI guess that's better than nothing! Still, it wouldn't allow connection to a thunderbolt dock with 2 displays, network and peripherals I guess. Ideally it would run stock Linux with Android apps via waydroid.. reliance on banking apps makes this fully converged experience using only open source a bit of a pipe dream :(
- baby_souffle 1y agoI think they're waiting for the the big point release this fall. When they rolled out 16 earlier this spring almost nothing changed from the user's perspective because it was just shipping a lot of the underlying supporting apis that aren't exposed via user accessible things at this point.
- mattfrommars 1y agoLooks slick. > automatically find your flight details I appreciate this but can they please go beyond search and instead legitimately find me cheapest price and overall best time to fly? Or strategies to find cheaper fight using different plans or maybe integrated credit point I have, coupons? I'd love to see AI saving me big money and doing all the hassle for me.
- jeffbee 1y agoIf you mean impossible to hold without the silicone case (not included) then I concur based on my experience with the older Pixels :-]
- MinimalAction 1y agoGoogle launched a new tool for finding flights: https://www.google.com/travel/flights/deals https://www.google.com/travel/flights/deals. More details at: https://blog.google/products/search/google-flights-ai-flight-deals/ https://blog.google/products/search/google-flights-ai-flight....
- ge96 1y agoThat fake zoom with AI is gross ugh If I'm taking a picture of something I want it to be real light-to-pixel action not some made up wambo-jambo
- pawelduda 1y agoI find it cool, it's pretty much the CSI enhance tool.
- racktash 1y agoAgreed, not a fan. The world has enough fakery in it already without people accidentally generating even more (I assume quite a lot of casual users will mistake this zoom for zoom in the traditional sense).
- gdbsjjdn 1y agoIt's giving "Samsung fake moon". If generative AI is going to make up details why bother zooming in, you could just ask to make up a whole AI slop picture.
- ge96 1y agoThe other thing that was annoying me with a cheap phone I bought, it was applying this generic surface to your face so your face didn't have pores but it looked wrong.
- Spivak 1y agoThis does seem to actually, ya know, do the upscaling though instead of clumsily faking it. Like yeah it's AI with AI failure modes but upscaling models are quite good and have less 'weird artistic' liberties than imagegen models.
- hatthew 1y agoI find it kinda scary that this is marketed as "zoom" and "recovering details", when the reality is that it quite literally makes stuff up and hopes you won't notice the difference. You and I know that it's completely fake, but we (or at least I) don't even know how much is faked, and probably 99% of people won't even know that it's fake at all. How long until someone gets arrested because an AI invented a face that looks like theirs? Hopefully lawyers will be know to throw out evidence like that, but the social media hivemind will happily ruin someone's life based on AI hallucinations.
- NoboruWataya 1y agoI wonder will this make some of the older Pixels (say 7-9) cheaper on eBay. I have been toying with the idea of replacing my Samsung S10 for ages now, and the battery life is really starting to degrade so I might pull the trigger soon.
- ryandvm 1y agoI'm sorry, is that car in the 100X zoom even a real model?
- baxuz 1y agoSo, any of these features gonna be available for non-US regions/system region settings?
- rafaelmn 1y agoI am considering switching to Google, I am getting annoyed by Apple more and more, but the critical feature for me is AI assistant. I am the first to criticize the LLM hype and I do not expect much out of them - but the fact that I cannot get Siri to turn a single light in my room instead of all of them is just FUBAR from my perspective. Siri is such garbage at this point that the gap between it and ChatGPT app is unbelievable. I can't even get it to reliably call people in my contacts, meanwhile my 4 year old can talk to ChatGPT in Croatian. Google Gemini seems to be on par so their assistant should be at least semi competent.
- baby 1y agoI switched to the previous google phones (9) for the folding phone, even though I'm not too much of a fan of the android experience I cannot switch back to Apple right now because: * the AI integration on google phones is just amazing * the folding phone has insane screen estate on-demand anywhere any time, I wouldn't be able to go back to a single screen
- farnsworth 1y agoWhat do you like about the AI integration? I'm considering leaving iPhone just to have basically native chatGPT integration, assuming gemini works that way, and assuming it can read and write to my calendar and access other personal data.
- baby 1y agoIt doesnt let you change to chatgpt, thats my biggest issue with the Gemini integration.
- farnsworth 1y agoI'm happy with Gemini, I just meant I want a native chatgpt-like service (unlike Siri)
- leviathant 1y ago
- somewhatrandom9 1y agoThe tech specs: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_10_specs?hl=en-US https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_10_specs?hl=en-US Says it has vpn capabilities..But then there is a footnote: >12. Restrictions apply. Some data is not transmitted through VPN.... See https://g.co/pixel/vpn https://g.co/pixel/vpn for details. Does anyone know what data doesn't go through the vpn? On the positive side it lists a 24+ hour battery life!! This is huge for me!! ..but it has a footnote, as well > 6. Battery life depends upon many factors and usage of certain features will decrease battery life. Actual battery life may be lower. Over time, Pixel software will manage battery performance to help maintain battery health as your battery ages. See https://g.co/pixel/battery-tests https://g.co/pixel/battery-tests and https://g.co/pixel/batteryhealth https://g.co/pixel/batteryhealth for details. Which I guess is understandable
- Disparallel 1y agoThe help section article lists # Data that isn’t protected by the VPN Not all network data from your device is protected by the VPN. Examples of data that aren’t protected by the VPN include: - Tethering traffic - This includes USB and Wi-Fi hotspot. - Push notifications - Wi-Fi calling and other IMS services - Work profile app traffic - This applies if a work profile is configured on your device. - Data traffic from an app that routes traffic directly over the Wi-Fi or a cellular connection All of which make sense to me except push notifications. My guess is they might mean syncing notifications to e.g. a watch.
- chippiewill 1y agoI think it might be because push notifications use long-lived connections that are already open when the VPN is turned on.
- red369 1y agoI wonder why tethering traffic doesn't go through the VPN. I could be wrong, but I think it works the same way with iPhones. I might test that later, but this (old) SE question seems to confirm my memory: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/266871/is-there-a-way-to-force-tethered-data-to-go-through-an-ios-vpn-instead-of-passi https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/266871/is-there-a-...
- programmertote 1y agoThe look of the phone reminds me of Bender from Futurama.
- nagisa 1y agoIts a google phone. Wouldn't be surprised if this one too forgets the WiFi credentials every second day.
- 1970-01-01 1y agoThat's likely your unreliable AP dropping offline and coming back frequently. Pixel thinks this is an attacker and stops joining it until it can hear the SSID consistently.
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- benbristow 1y agoIt's a shame the Pixels don't have IR sensors. One of the most underrated features that some Androids have - I was in a hotel in Poland this year and it had Aircon in the room (and was rather warm), but there was no remote. The IR sensor on my phone saved my butt as it could turn on the AC! There's no end of times that the IR sensor has come in useful one way or another.
- devinprater 1y agoI love Android, besides a few accessibility issues, especially when typing to Gemini and TalkBack not speaking the reply, but I don't like how sluggish TalkBack is on Pixel phones. I had the 8 and hated that.
- ironman1478 1y agoThe hardware and features seem great, but I'm not gonna buy another pixel phone. I've had a pixel 8 for 2 years the stability of the software has gone down so much. I frequently have an unresponsive UI, requiring me to turn off my phone with the side buttons. I also have had many issues with the keyboard and it not responding when using chrome, requiring me to kill chrome and restart it. It seems like Google only tests on their latest device when releasing android because people I know who always get the latest phones don't have these problems. It's a very poor customer experience. It's the phone experience of an old super car. It's fast and does lots of cool things, but it feels like the wheels are gonna come off at any minute.
- martijn_himself 1y agoSame here (on a Pixel 7). Apart from there being absolutely no reason to upgrade, really, even with the generous trade-in values offered by Google around the time of release. I kind of miss the time when a new smartphone release was exciting.
- Paianni 1y agoI hope they stop superglueing the batteries inside the phones.
- cyocum 1y agoI still have a Samsung Galaxy S8. It runs fine. I don't really need more from a phone. Maybe I am missing something but I really cannot see myself getting a new phone.
- wrcwill 1y agostill a low frequency pwm phone.. what i would give for a modern no-pwm / high frequency pwm phone
- Jabbles 1y agohttps://imgur.com/a/sDJTiyK https://imgur.com/a/sDJTiyK That 100x zoom looks a bit... sloppy... The car has one wing mirror and the rear tire is wider than the front. Edit: this might be real, see child comments. Is there someone who knows more about cars who can confirm that this is in fact, not real?
- cenamus 1y agoI think the rear looking bigger is an artifact of the zoom, where your brain expects it to look smaller, but it's actually the same size due to the extreme cropping
- nfriedly 1y agoNo, it's definitely wider in the photo. The rear tire is about double the width of my mouse pointer while the front tire is about 1x the width. That said, as other commentators have mentioned, it might also be wider in real life, so not necessarily an artifact at all.
- cenamus 1y agoAnd the height?
- Kirby64 1y agoThis is an old classic car/truck. Only one mirror was somewhat common back then. Also, wider rear tires are not unusual. Especially on anything with a bed, since you want additional loading capabilities in the back.
- ranger207 1y agoThat looks vaguely similar to a 60s Mustang (although also has a lot of details that are wrong) and old muscle cars like that often have wider rear tires for better traction
- Etheryte 1y agoWhat looks off the most is the fact that the blinkers under the bender aren't even remotely close to looking similar. The rest of the car could pass as a restomod, but the fact that so many things are asymmetrical between the two sides just looks completely wrong. Blinkers, hood clips, mirror-no-mirror, etc.
- baby 1y agoNo fold phones??? EDIT: https://blog.google/products/pixel/google-pixel-10-pro-fold/#upgradedhardware https://blog.google/products/pixel/google-pixel-10-pro-fold/... ^ this should be the main post
- vader1 1y agoThe lack of a physical SIM tray is just one more way to lock users in Google's walled garden. eSIM support is not implemented in Android itself (AOSP), but part of the proprietary GMS package. This means Google-free Android forks like LineageOS will be unusable on the Pixel 10 series :-(
- leeoniya 1y agodoes this mean no GrapheneOS either?
- a2128 1y agoGraphene supports eSIM https://grapheneos.org/usage#esim-support https://grapheneos.org/usage#esim-support
- Ganipote 1y agoGrapheneOS support eSim : https://grapheneos.org/usage#esim-support https://grapheneos.org/usage#esim-support
- vader1 1y agoGrapheneOS found a way to provide eSIM support, but it depends on installing a patched version of Google's proprietary LPA app. I don't know how future-proof that is..
- gruez 1y agoyou don't even need google's proprietary esim app. OpenEUICC works fine if you grant it priv-app permissions. [1] https://gitea.angry.im/PeterCxy/OpenEUICC/ https://gitea.angry.im/PeterCxy/OpenEUICC/
- theandrewbailey 1y agoIt supports eSIM. Two months ago, I bought a Pixel 9a, immediately put GrapheneOS on it, and registered an eSIM.
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- 6thbit 1y ago> Magic Cue ... to proactively offer the right information at the right time That's one way to justify a permanent snoop on everything you are doing and saying in all your messages and calls. Even if your data is kept on device, their telemetry could still reveal your activity and patterns.
- spoaceman7777 1y agoThe only downside is that all of these new features will be supported for about 3 weeks, and then rapidly turn into another Google abandoned strip mall. Fooled me once, shame on you, fooled me (hundreds of times), shame on me Bet the people who launched these are already interviewing for their next gig.
- highwaylights 1y ago.. as I sit here with my Apple devices that are 90% abandonware. I feel your pain.
- spoaceman7777 1y agosamsung is a lot better with keeping products staffed at least
- mrcwinn 1y agoI really like their AI strategy. It’s much stronger than Apple’s, which seems to be nonexistent. The problem I have is I really like my Apple Watch Ultra. There is nothing like it in the android space and I can’t rely on Google. Actually caring about building a great product the way Apple does. Googles hardware products always seem to be some strategic wedge play to keep the ecosystem in check. They don’t seem to exist because they really care about building the very best watch, or phone, or whatever and at any point they might just cancel the effort.
- kimbernator 1y agoYet again, Google announces another lineup of phones where a vast majority of the announcement is about software features that could be implemented on existing devices, highlighting the wastefulness of the yearly release cycle.
- jiehong 1y agoInteresting phones, but the snark in the live video wasn’t that amazing. Aren’t the products enough in and out of themselves to be attractive? Complaining about Apple walled garden, but only able to pull off their AI help if you are part of their Google garden and a lot of it on the cloud. Same for Pixel Snap being MagSafe (sounds like a camera feature at first). 7 years of software updates promised, that’s actually nice.
- porridgeraisin 1y agoAfter trying out 6000/7000mah phones, I'm never ever using any phone with a smaller battery. Especially not the 3580mah or whatever pixel phones. I like pixel otherwise, but it's just impossible to revert back to a smaller battery once you've experienced the truly multi-day -- even for a unhealthy screen user like me -- battery life.
- rossjudson 1y agoPixel 10 has around 5000mah batteries. Sadly that does not meet your 6000mah requirement. Everybody makes choices ;)
- porridgeraisin 1y agoYeah. I can't wait for a "flagship" phone with 6000+mah. Provided it's not one with bloatware (xiaomi et. al) I would buy it immediately.
- neilv 1y ago> It isn't just a simple crop; Pro Res Zoom uses Tensor G5 and an all-new generative imaging model to intelligently recover and refine intricate details. Unclear what "intelligently recover and refine" means here, and I'd like to make a request of people who might also be unclear yet influenced by this idea... If you build features that sound like this into the image-capturing stage (from the user perspective), and your target users include serious photographers who care about authenticity, please be sure to make any kind of "generative"/inferencing of image details be optional. And fall back to nth previous generation of sensor processing, autofocusing, and anti-shake technology -- where the compute still influences the images, but errs on the side of missing/fuzzy detail rather than fabrication. Imagine the priorities of photojournalists as a category of user -- not only users who want appealing snapshots, selfies, or professional editorial fashion/lifestyle shoots. There's still a place for consciously fabricating/enhancing/fixing in interactive post-processing, when you you choose to do it, and it's clear to you what is being done.
- thecrumb 1y agoOnly one question. Can you disable the stupid date on the home screen. No I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a phone and then load another launcher on it. Just hire someone competent at programming to make this an option. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/132929200?hl=en https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/132929200?hl=en
- seventhtiger 1y ago12 years later and still no availability in Middle East or Africa. Only available in 30-something countries. Google can't figure out retail, while upstart Chinese companies hit the global market immediately. If you buy it in a country that's not officially supported you don't get 5G, most unique features, and of course no warranty, support, or repairs.
- slyall 1y agoI've got a 7a International version and 5G works in my unsupported country (New Zealand). Not sure what other unique features don't work. However it is nuts how they just can't be bothered supporting so many countries.
- seventhtiger 1y agoIt's disabled geographically, not based on band compatibility or carrier or anything. Not sure about New Zealand because I heard it's not consistent. It'd be 5G, VoLTE/Wifi, VPN, call screening, OTP autodelete, crash detection.
- goyagoji 1y agoAll I really want to know is CPU/other efficiency and battery life.. If I use G1-G5 with exactly the same app that G1 CPU was adequate for the theoretical efficiency for the CPU is maybe improving 20% a generation but that manifests as some worthwhile (battery time) result or is drowned out by stupid features like even higher screen refresh?
- ElijahLynn 1y agoYay, it has native wireless charging via Qi2, AKA Pixelsnap. The rumors on the internet were that you needed a special case to use the wireless charging. But that is not true after all and those rumors were false. You can just plop a Qi2 charger right on your phone and it will charge! Only bummer is that the 10 pro charges at 15w while the 10 pro XL charges at 25w. And I really prefer the smaller phones that fit in my pockets. Not some huge monster phone.
- bjackman 1y agoI recently discovered Pixel 7 (maybe older too, I dunno) is actually Qi compatible it just doesn't have the magnets to lock in place. But if you have a case with those magnets in, it works great. And it turns out QuadLok cases (which I can generally recommend for cyclists) are compatible. So now I just plonk my phone against the wall and it charges on an Apple MagSafe charger I mounted. This is actually really nice, turns out it's really convenient to have your phone in a fixed position, also not taking up any surface space! Always thought wireless charging was a bit of a gimmick but with the magnets it's genuinely useful.
- can16358p 1y agoHardware: looks nice. Software: big NO. Anything from Google is a red flag for me. If there was a hypothetical phone with this hardware with iOS, that would be really nice.
- prism56 1y agoWhat about a degoogled OS? Whenever my current pixel phone dies I'm going more private.
- npteljes 1y agoTry Pixels with GrapheneOS. Most of that software is still "from Google" technically, but it's reworked in some important ways, especially on a service level. For example, by default it has no Google apps or services, you can install Play store sandboxed, etc.
- Fuzzwah 1y agoThis seems like a good place to randomly drop my thoughts on switching from a Samsung s20+ to a Pixel 9 Pro. The hardware is excellent in the hand. The display is great, battery life excellent, the UI is snappy, does all the basic things I expect from a quality device. Over all, no huge regrets..... but... The scrolling in every app is just "different" from the Samsung, and in a "not as good" way. I moved to Pixel with the (as I now realise) very out dated idea that a Pixel phone would allow me MORE customisation and configurability than the Samsung/Galaxy environment. Oh boy, how wrong I was. Turns out there's a whole stack of Samsung bundled apps or ones available through their Galaxy store for free that I'd gotten so used to I thought it was default Android stuff. I miss: - per app volume control - nav bar customisation - lock screen config - many of the good lock apps - shake for torch - the samsung camera app - control of what apps CAN run in the background (the pixel murders everything) - subtle ways that Nova Launcher has problems So yeah, next time I'm in the market for a phone I think I'm going back to Samsung. I want Google to be better...
- gundmc 1y agoAs a former Pixel and current Samsung user, I can relate to almost everything on this list except for the Camera app. What is it that you prefer about the Samsung iteration? I found my preference to be for the Pixel version.
- neogodless 1y agoAs a Pixel / Galaxy / OnePlus user... My app and photo quality preference are OnePlus > Pixel > > > ... > Samsung. shrug Really it could be a toss up between OnePlus and Google depending on generation. My partner's Pixel 7 takes nearly as nice photos as my OnePlus 12. My Galaxy photos were... very watercolor paint. I could not stand them.
- kiwijamo 1y agoStrange I have a S21 and I can't tell the diff between photos taken with the S21 and those shared to me from owners of other phones. I find generally modern high end phones all take good photos. YMMV of course.
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- eulgro 1y agoMeanwhile my Pixel 2 is still rocking after 7 years of daily use.
- xvfLJfx9 1y agoYou are also rocking a bunch of security vulnerabilities then, because this thing is EOL for a long time.
- eulgro 1y agoI have the latest LineageOS version and the 4.4 kernel will be EOL in 2027. So no.
- bouncycastle 1y agomy pixel 2 is still rocking too, what an amazing device! (although it now I only use it for flappy bird..) Highly disappointed that Google stopped updates a long time ago.
- herpderperator 1y agoHave they fixed the ability to easily transfer your existing Android data to the new Android phone? I find that every time I upgrade, despite choosing the options to transfer apps/settings, that 90% of the apps I open just greet me with the login screen and I have to set everything up completely from scratch. I remember maybe a handful of apps, I think one was Uber, that were able to transfer everything including the login session. That was truly magic. That's how it should be for all apps. I understand banks might have special security requirements and I already know for Google Wallet, your cards need to be reactivated even if they transfer over, but most apps are not banks.
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- paulryanrogers 1y agoPixel to Pixel has been smooth for me since the Pixel 4. Haven't don't cross manufacturer for a while.
- gruez 1y agoBlame the app developers, not google. They specifically added a backup/restore mode for device to device transfer, that bypasses backup blacklists[1]. However apps can still opt out by registering a backup agent, and returning no data. [1] https://developer.android.com/identity/data/testingbackup https://developer.android.com/identity/data/testingbackup
- summm 1y agoGoogle actively avoided providing a local, secure, and seamless backup or even an interface for 3rd party backup services to make users more dependent on Google cloud services. Of course many app developers decided the Google cloud is too insecure, being not end-to-end encrypted. And Google enables them by not giving the users ways to override those stupid decisions. This wouldn't have happened on PCs, where you can mostly just copy over the application's user directory.
- AbuAssar 1y agoSo 16GB of Ram will be the norm from now on? LGTM
- fariszr 1y agoUnfortunately these new phones don't fix the main issue with the Pixel: the hardware. The performance is just unacceptable, it's already 50%+ slower than a snapdragon 8 elite flagship released in the same year. This affects everything, pixels just don't last nor have great battery life for this reason.And the big issue is they aren't even much cheaper anymore. I like GrapheneOS, but my pixel just randomly stopped working after being laggy and having the worst battery life on cellular (less than 2h SOT with a 5000mah battery) It's hard justifying buying another pixel after such a horrible experience, were it not for GrapheneOS I would never consider buying a pixel in the first place. Heck even the camera isn't that good anymore, most photos are just gray, and the hardware is also very lacking. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-image-processing-ruining-shots-3555627/ https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-image-processi... I found Mrwhosetheboss overview really good, he explains how the pixel just comes short in every way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRegbipwCsc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRegbipwCsc
- trog 1y agoMy last two Pixel phones - 6a and 7a - were both "recalled" with battery issues. I got almost a complete refund for both, and got keep the phone (my 7a died a few months after the recall, 6a is still going strong). I got a 9a to replace them just because I didn't want to have to deal with learning iPhone, but I'm fully expecting the 9a to fail with a similar issue so looking at buying an iPhone soon as a backup so I can get up to speed.
- fariszr 1y agoAt least you are buying the cheap A series, my experience was with the XL/Pro phones.
- clumsysmurf 1y agoBoth my 4a an 6a got the battery nerf update. I had no idea this impacted the 7a as well. I prefer Pixels for Android Development but my trust in Google is at an all time low.
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- munificent 1y ago> Exclusive to the Pixel 10 Pro and 10 Pro XL, Pro Res Zoom captures astonishing detail at up to 100x zoom. It isn't just a simple crop; Pro Res Zoom uses Tensor G5 and an all-new generative imaging model to intelligently recover and refine intricate details. So it's not just a crop. It's a crop + hallucinate.
- megaloblasto 1y agoI just want a little phone that I can use with one hand and doesn't stretch out my pocket...
- atum47 1y agoWhat is the best way for a Brazilian to trade in a pixel 8 pro for the newer model?
- presspot 1y agoDid some marketing person really write "cutting edge" into the headline?
- ipcress_file 1y agoAfter they stopped releasing the device tree, there's really not a lot that will hold ROM developers to Pixels. I'll definitely wait to see what happens on that front before buying my next phone.
- ksec 1y agoUnfortunately both Pixel 10 and Gemini is unavailable in Hong Kong. I have been trying move off Apple iPhone for a long time and Pixel is the phone I wanted to go for within the Android ecosystem. And I simply dont have that choice. Wondering if anyone on HN could shine any light as to why.
- ekusiadadus 1y agoWaiting for Pixel 10a. Pixel 10 is so expensive.
- dzhiurgis 1y agoSomeone needs to use Veo to make realistic ads for this. Majority of people don't go hiking and biking and kayaking, EVER.
- atomicthumbs 1y agoanyone who knows about cars is pointing at that last demo video and going "What the fuck is THAT."
- sbinnee 1y agoI would to try Pixel phones. But it's simply not available where I live.
- keniu 1y agoAI times make me change my iPhone to Pixel. may be it's the time.
- jillesvangurp 1y agoI have the pixel 6. It's still fine. This looks like a very incremental update to me as have the previous few editions. Same with the OS. I can barely tell apart Android versions these days. And since most of the value is software based, there isn't much practical difference between different generations of Pixel phones. My pixel 6 has the same 48 megapixel sensor in the camera as they still appear to be using. It seems camera sensors plateaued about 4-5 years ago. It's a great sensor; the raw images are pretty amazing given the form factor (tiny sensor and lens). And I expect it still is. People confuse the AI capabilities (removing subjects, adding missing detail, etc.) with simple operations to make the photo 'pop'. Boosting the contrast, saturating all the colors, applying some aggressive smoothing (noise) and sharpening, etc. Doing that manually on the raw files yields very similar results. It's good and convenient. But most of that is just the sensor being awesome and some tasteful defaults for these edits. Adding optical zoom is impressive. The digital/AI zoom is not something I'd use. They still seem to use different sensors for the different cameras; which is something Apple stopped doing with recent iphones. So, you have to choose between the right lens with lots of noise or the right sensor with the wrong focal range. The AI stuff is interesting as a gimmick but not something I use a lot. It seems to be the main differentiator for Google these days but I just don't see that being worth hundreds of dollars. It's a bit of an artificial differentiator and a race to the bottom. The advantages tend to be a bit hand wavy and other phone manufacturers of course copy them. I might go for the 10a when it comes out in six months or so. My Pixel 6 won't be getting major updates anymore and the battery is starting to deteriorate. The difference between a 500 euro phone and a > 1000 euro one are not worth it for me. And with the 9a at least it even had a slightly bigger battery.
- volemo 1y ago> I can barely tell apart Android versions these days. Is that bad really? I can tell iOS versions apart and I don’t like it. I believe design should converge on some ideal (even if an unreachable one) so at some point updates ought to get very “tweak”-ish.
- fulafel 1y agoWhich of the AI features can you use without a Google account?
- paintbox 1y agoWhere do you think it's supposed to get the data from? By digging through your trashcan? No access - no data - no feature.
- fulafel 1y agoFrom the on-device memory, UI, camera etc. Also: "Voice Translate allows you to break down language barriers during phone calls. Through Tensor G5, our on-device AI translates your call in real time in what sounds like each speaker’s voice" They advertise on-device AI functionality quite a lot.
- ChrisRR 1y agoAll I ask for is a slightly smaller phone or a thicker phone with better battery life. Why are manufacturers so intent on not doing that?
- konart 1y agoI understand this might not be the best place to ask, but I have to: I'd like to try and switch from iPhone to Pixel (maybe different Android phone?) but there is one app that I can't find anything close to: Drafts. Maybe I'm missing something? Any ideas? I don't really need all functions of Drafts but the whole experience of adding notes with this app is something I haven't experienced with anything else. PS: naive question: is there a way to "integrate" Pixel with macOS? At least to have common clipboard.
- emmaexe 1y agoFor that sort of integration I would use KDE Connect[1]. It works great between my phone and laptop. I can send the clipboard, files, notifications, media controls, etc between the devices. It has a MacOS version but it currently only has nightly builds (potentially a downside). [1] https://kdeconnect.kde.org/ https://kdeconnect.kde.org/
- konart 1y agoIt works great with iOS and linux desktop (in fact even better than the original sometimes). Thanks!
- butz 1y agoThe phone is larger, not to mention ridiculous size of camera shelf. What happened to decent industrial design?
- rurp 1y agoI was surprised to see "more helpful support than ever" listed as a top line feature. Google actually offering good support to their customers?! I was impressed until I got to "Magic Cue isn’t just a single app or feature, it’s proactive support". Ah, so it sounds like the helpful support is just more AI slop.
- bicepjai 1y agoHi pixel users, can we configure the phone to get more privacy ? Primarily looking for disabling complete location tracking, photos processing, app interactions and local ai interactions
- Karawebnetwork 1y ago> Also, what is up with that camera module? This doesn't look like it can physically slide into jeans pockets. Pixel phones have been that way for a while now. Phone cases usually add the missing part to make it flat, e.g. https://www.spigen.com/products/pixel-10-series-case-tough-armor-ai-magfit?variant=44367392636975 https://www.spigen.com/products/pixel-10-series-case-tough-a...