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AnandTech Farewell
- RGamma 2y ago> we’ll still have a place for everyone to talk about the latest in technology – and have those discussions last longer than 48 hours. Good jab!
- SirFatty 2y agoearly days, it was a great site and a valuable resource. It became less so over the years to the point I forgot about it. Kind of like Tom's Hardware.
- PaulHoule 2y agoIt ran great articles to the very end but it also had some series that were real stinkers. The one that bugged me was the monthly roundup of HDDs where, usually, they recommended that you pay $100 extra to get an expensive consumer HDD that, according to the spec sheet, was 3db quieter and consumed maybe 0.5W less than an inexpensive enterprise HDD (funny reversal, but the enterprise product is a mass-produced product they sell a lot of and all the hyper-thin SKUs aimed at consumers probably sold one here and one there) although anything is one bad bearing away from being 20db louder. This went in for years but they never confronted the issue directly by taking measurements or asking if the HDD industry was destroying itself by offering too many SKUs — if WD had just one SKU maybe Best Buy would stock it, but if there is a different one for a 2 bay NAS, a 3 bay NAS, a 4 bay NAS, and for recording video they won’t stock any of them. (And with all those spurious choices they didn’t give you a clear choice of CMR vs SMR!) Charlie Demerjian stands almost alone as a tech journalist who doesn’t get high on the industry’s supply and, on that level, Anandtech was another tech outlet dependent on that industry that couldn’t give it the tough love to point out rampant brand destruction. Charlie told you 5 years ago that Intel’s product roadmap was a suicide note, Anandtech sure didn’t.
- erincandescent 2y agoSemiAccurate has always been true to its name: occasional scoops but mixed with a lot of hyperbole, bluster, half truths and things that are just flat out wrong. Back when I worked at a semiconductor company, reading any articles about us was always very funny because it always had more things wrong than right.
- janice1999 2y agoI've been reading Anandtech for over a decade. Sad to see it go.
- prng2021 2y agoSame. It's so hard to stand out with a tech review site when there are dozens of other great ones, but this one truly did for me.
- ozaiworld 2y agoAhhh this is so sad. So many of my favorite online spots are ending recently. On a brighter note, Chips and Cheese are continuing the effort of quality technical journalism.
- colejohnson66 2y agoIan Cutress (TechTechPotato) made an emotional goodbye video this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud6DWmWcHaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud6DWmWcHaY Tangent: Interesting coincidence that this is ten years to the day of Ryan Smith's tenure.
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- 9cb14c1ec0 2y agoThe quality of their content, back when they still produced any, was top. It always felt to me that the life departed with Ian. Ian's substack fills the place for me that AnandTech used to.
- thefz 2y agoMan, this is some sad, sad news. Goodbye, and thank you for the content that has accompanied me for more than a decade.
- drumhead 2y agoAnandtech was the best place to get the full rundown of processors. Its really sad to hear its closing. Its going to be a huge loss to everyone.
- Symmetry 2y agoOnce upon a time Real World Technology was even better, but met the same fate. If you can write these sorts of reviews you can make much more money as a consultant than from a website.
- scrlk 2y agoHappily the RWT forum remains up and active. It's an absolute goldmine for deep discussions on processors.
- bluedino 2y agoLoved their MacBook reviews. And then eventually quit doing them.
- taspeotis 2y ago> Finally, for everyone who still needs their technical writing fix, our formidable opposition of the last 27 years and fellow Future brand, Tom’s Hardware, is continuing to cover the world of technology. I thought Tom’s Hardware was very consumer oriented, and didn’t go into nearly as much detail the way AnandTech did.
- NoxiousPluK 2y agoThey're afaik owned by the same company, so it makes sense to point people there.
- bee_rider 2y agoI think Chips and Cheese is the real successor, but they are a small group with less throughput.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoWhat about Ars Technica? It used to be pretty in-depth. Not sure about lately.
- 3np 2y agohttps://www.servethehome.com/ https://www.servethehome.com/ has been scaling up their reporting as of late.
- AdrianB1 2y agoSome of their reviews are either weird or questionable. I read them quite regularly, but I no longer trust most of what they say.
- 3np 2y agoGot any examples?
- AdrianB1 2y agoServe The Home with a $3,000 switch with 16 x 100 Gbps ports: https://www.servethehome.com/mikrotik-crs520-4xs-16xq-rm-16-port-100gbe-switch-announced-marvell-arm-annapurna-labs/ https://www.servethehome.com/mikrotik-crs520-4xs-16xq-rm-16-... . I think everybody should get a couple of these for their home automation tasks /s
- jonatron 2y agoReviews for components are better in written form than video form, yet you can see by the number of YouTube views what people are using. I guess it doesn't help that it feels like there hasn't been an increase in performance to price ratio for GPU's in the longest time.
- cogman10 2y agoOr CPUs really. Die shrinks just aren't giving the advantages they once used to. You can see this in the fact that RISC-V and ARM architectures have caught up with x86 performance even though x86 has had a decade long head start and billions more invested in development. We are quickly approaching a weird space. Barring some major innovations, you are likely to see that 10 year old equipment remains competitive with brand new products in terms of performance.
- ozaiworld 2y agoThat might've been a result of Intel having the best leading-edge fabs until 2018 or so. It was hard to judge different ISAs before then.
- IshKebab 2y agoYeah I keep looking into upgrading my 12 year old PC, but for like £1500 I can get one 10x faster (multithreaded) and only about 4x faster single core. I mean, that's a decent boost but it feels very disappointing for 12 years of progress.
- aleph_minus_one 2y ago> You can see this in the fact that RISC-V and ARM architectures have caught up with x86 performance Concerning RISC-V having caught up with x86 performance: dream on ... :-(
- VMG 2y agothis was pretty impressive https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41364549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41364549
- arnath 2y agoMan this is sad … I think I’ve been visiting this site for its entire lifetime. AnandTech has always been the best place for unbiased, deeply technical looks at hardware and it will be greatly missed
- uptownfunk 2y agoWow the end of an era. I first heard about it at Cal through college roommates. I haven’t used it much lately but still.. sad to see it go.
- codeslave13 2y agoA sad day. My buddy and I were the original developers of anandtech when it went live running on cold fusion and oracle as the backend. I started a hosting company and hosted anadtrch for a few years. Lots of memories there.
- yas_hmaheshwari 2y agoWow! Out of curiosity, which year was it?
- archon810 2y agoI would guess somewhere around 1997 when Anand started the site.
- codeslave13 2y agoYea we worked on his old site before anadtech. Sheesh so much fun at CES with the gang in lv. Was fun times. My buddy started fusetalk by writing anadtech forums from scratch. It all moved to .net after a couple years and that when i left. Jason stayed on for years
- perfectstorm 2y agoyou forgot to answer the question though :)
- codeslave13 2y agoOops. Early 96 if i remember correctly. Its been a while :)
- robk 2y agoI remember religiously checking the hot deals forum then for insane dot com boom pricing choices (and errors). Fun times. A bunch of us moved to IRC but then Fatwallet sort of ruined things w their volume of users.
- markbnj 2y agoSad to read this, but all things pass I guess. Spent a large chunk of my life posting on and reading the AT forum. Last I checked I still have a mod account. Things sort of started to go downhill for me with the sale to... meh can't even recall the purchaser it's been so long. Farewell AT, thanks for all the good advice on builds and overclocking through the years.
- jackcosgrove 2y agoI'm glad to hear the website will stay up, for now. This makes me wonder if there's a way to preserve websites indefinitely in ebook form. A small device that contains the entire history of a website, and is self-contained in the ebook. The device would obviously require power and the hardware could degrade, but this could be mitigated by making the hardware replaceable, or rather the content swappable across devices. It seems like a middle ground between durability/portability (printed book) and usability/access (website).
- technojunkie 2y agoMy journey into building computers and networking were partly driven by Anandtech. I bought and sold quite a few things on the forums, too. I always thought Anandtech was one of the higher quality tech publications. RIP to one of the best.
- reginald78 2y agoI'm glad to hear the forums are still going to be around. They certainly aren't as popular as they once were but I still consider myself a part of that community and enjoy conversing with the old timers once and awhile.
- Sesse__ 2y agoExtremely sad. There basically is nothing like Anandtech; the depth, the ability to explain, the lack of sensationalism, and the integrity in benchmarking (I still vividly remember when they noticed an issue with HPET in Windows affecting their benchmarks, and promptly pulled all of them offline until they could reassess). Chips and Cheese is great but only covers a certain segment of it. In the end, I would assume it just boiled down to lack of money. There were people among us who would gladly pay for this kind of coverage, but Anandtech said at some point they had considered it and couldn't find a good model. (As an aside, I pay for LWN, and I would pay for something that covered similar areas to Phoronix but actually was good.)
- a-french-anon 2y agoSame. Paying for LWN but I get a bit annoyed when there's the lone Phoronix-tier clickbait about diversity amongst all the high quality kernel reports. Phoronix could get a lot better if it stopped clickbaiting (which attracts the most feebleminded parts of the peanuts nogrammer gallery in the comments) and labelled -> aggregated its benchmarks according to SIMD support/enablement, threading and type (CPU, GPGPU, 3D, etc...). And investigated strange issues in results instead of drowning readers in data. Basically, we need something in-between Phoronix and ChipsAndCheese for benchmarks. Also reading Igor's Lab and GamerNexus when I want some data about hardware, but it's Windows focused, sadly.
- phoronixrly 2y agoAt this point I suspect if Phoronix suddenly takes a turn and stops being clickbait blogspam, it would be alienating its core audience... People that love to read ragebait and argue aimlessly in the comments.
- Sesse__ 2y ago> And investigated strange issues in results instead of drowning readers in data. The basic problem of Phoronix is that it doesn't have the capacity nor competence to do this. Journalism is expensive and takes time, and Phoronix is a single person. If they were to actually go in and investigate every strange issue they had in their benchmarks (assuming they even notice them!), or add reasonable commentary beyond the seemingly autogenerated “in benchmark X, device Y seems go be ahead”, they would have to cut the number of articles and benchmarks drastically. Kind of like Anandtech, really; one of my main gripes with it is that there just wasn't _enough_ of it per unit of time.
- rglullis 2y agoFor anyone here working or in contact with the people at Future: the post mentions that the forums are still going to be open, but will there be any active work on it? I keep thinking that these specialized forums that lost space to Reddit could be revived if were integrated with ActivityPub.
- a1o 2y agoGood opportunity to make the best of the forums. I would prefer traditional forums for community building over anything else.
- hengheng 2y agoGamers Nexus on YouTube appears to be carrying the torch of obsessively in-depth coverage. Ian Cutress has been doing his thing as well, but erred mostly on the side of being a philosopher rather than an investigator. Interested to see where all the people end up. Clearly the demand for good info hasn't vanished.
- Thaxll 2y agoGamers Nexus is not very technical though, they probably don't understand how a CPU works.
- rstat1 2y agoGuess you've never watched one of their failure analysis videos then, or really any of them if that's your comment.
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- diggan 2y ago> Gamers Nexus on YouTube appears to be carrying the torch of obsessively in-depth coverage. Although via videos rather than articles, sadly. It's sad how much information is moving to a much slower and data-intensive medium. The same is happening in lots of other areas as well, like game development. Articles always been easier for me to consume, but more and more valuable information is moving into videos these days that it's hard to avoid even though I prefer other mediums...
- vmladenov 2y agoThey do post their video scripts as articles with the relevant screenshots. It’s not quite the same as a text-first article, but I prefer reading.
- RDaneel0livaw 2y agoCompletely agree. I am listening to some chill music and wanting to catch up on some hardware reviews, so I want to read a nice article. If I accidentally click on something that takes me to a god awful yt video, it completely disrupts my focus and irritates the hell out me. I instantly close the tab and never go back to whatever source pointed me there. I absolutely loathe yt video content of stuff that should obviously be text but isn't. Gaming content has gone this way a lot sadly.
- dageshi 2y agoThose who wish the web to return to its hobbyist roots where nobody gets paid to write content online any more are starting to get their wish.
- rchaud 2y agoThat wish didn't involve a world where search engines were intentionally tweaking their algos to serve up low-effort blogspam with zero individuality, burying actual hobbyist websites.
- dageshi 2y agoThe impression I've got from said people here on HN is that search engines are disgusting ad powered horrors and therefore they're not needed either. How anyone finds anything I don't know but I guess we'll find out!
- walterbell 2y ago> now, more than ever, it’s necessary to counter sensationalism and cynicism with high-quality reporting and testing that is used to support thoughtful conclusions. To quote Anand: “I don't believe the web needs to be academic reporting or sensationalist garbage - as long as there's a balance, I'm happy.” A postscript deep dive article for AnandTech could look at the audience and business metrics of an ad-funded tech review site in 2024, in the context of competition from substack, Discord/Patreon, YouTube, neo-cable-tv, and other channels. Does Algolia have enough data for a graph of AnandTech article discussions on HN, e.g. submissions and comments?
- iamgopal 2y agoI bought my first AMD Processor after reading review of it on their website in 2002.
- SmellTheGlove 2y agoWow. What a run, though. This is a hard business. I know, I ran a similar thing that was ever so briefly popular in the late 90s. I kept at it for a couple of years and maybe had a couple of reviews and articles get significant traffic over that span. I let it drop when I graduated high school - college was definitely the better bet for me haha. Back then I wished I could do it as well as Anand did. And they did it for almost 3 decades. If any of you happen to see this, I’m sad to see AnandTech end, but what you started had an amazing almost 3 decade run and you should be proud. I’m proud of you - AT is the best.
- NKosmatos 2y agoSad to read this, AnandTech has been one of the good and respectable sites all these decades. Old-timers (like myself) will for sure miss their reviews. So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish.
- huxley 2y agoFor me, Anandtech often scratched the itch that once upon a time was satisfied by Byte, 2600, and some of the trade magazines. Sad day.
- tyingq 2y agoThe comments about "AnandTech’s rebuke of sensationalism, link baiting, and the path to shallow 10-o'clock-news reporting" are interesting. Sounds like it difficult to make enough to survive unless you're doing these things. Which I suspect ties back to things like Google (and others) neglecting the quality of organic search, pushing it down the page, etc. Or competing with quality content by exposing it in snippets and AI summaries with only subtle ways to get to the actual article. I suppose, if that's the case, those practices eventually eat their own tail. No new Anandtech content to ignore or copy now, for example.
- imp0cat 2y ago> Sounds like it difficult to make enough to survive unless you're doing these things. Yup. However, I can't find a confirmation anywhere in TFA. Just some hints here and there. So I wonder, what finally made them quit?
- wolpoli 2y agoIt sounds like Future Brand, the owner of both AnandTech and Tom's Hardware wanted to consolidate.
- VHRanger 2y ago> Sounds like it difficult to make enough to survive unless you're doing these things. If you're on an advertising model, yes, impossible even. If you're on a patronage/subscription model, totally doable nowadays.
- elephanlemon 2y agoVery sad, but Anandtech has been on a downslope since Anand left. Once that happened it seemed like they almost instantly went from publishing many times a week to only occasionally pushing out content, usually quite delayed. The quality was still very good though and I always tried to find an Anandtech review of whatever it was I was looking for. Did the publishers just cheap out and stop paying for enough articles? Or did people lose motivation when they found themselves working for a faceless corp instead of Anand?
- instj3 2y agoYeah, I also noted that. In 2014 Anandtech was acquired by the same company that ran Tomshardware, the two sites were among the most popular in their segment. I never shook off the feeling that after the acquisition it was left to die.
- laweijfmvo 2y agoAgree, but when Ian left a few years ago is when I ultimately stopped visiting all together. Maybe unavoidable, but the level of ads covering the website also made it borderline unreadable...
- LeifCarrotson 2y agoWhat ads? Seriously, though, when Anand and Ian left was about the time the content started losing quality, the ads started increasing, and I removed the site from my adblocker's whitelist.
- eitally 2y agoI don't blame the site for this, though. Anand got out at about the same time as marketing overtook technological improvement in product development (for the most part). I remember the very early days (I lived just a couple miles from Anand in the Raleigh area) where he was doing super in-depth assessments at the board & chip level, through the rapidly changing evolution of motherboards, CPUs & GPUs in the early 2000s ... but as everything basically became mostly commoditized and user experience differences have reduced even for home-built PCs (and the number of people still home-building PCs, period!), there just hasn't been a compelling reason to continue this depth of analysis or writing for the past decade or so.
- qwertox 2y agoHN might as well put up a black ribbon for this news.
- wslh 2y agoI felt a deep sadness after reading just the first paragraph, and I had to stop there for a while. It's very powerful. If you run your own business(es), you know how challenging it is. The stories of unicorns (epsilons) are rare and almost insignificant compared to the reality faced by most businesses.
- m4r1k 2y agoIt's shocking to realize I've been reading AnandTech's insightful and profound analysis for over two decades. The tech landscape has undergone a dramatic transformation in that time, yet AnandTech remained a steadfast and reliable source of information. They inspired countless hardware enthusiasts and reviewers, myself included, with many of us pursuing performance analysis as a career path. Their absence will be deeply felt, and it's truly a sad day for the tech community.
- causality0 2y agoJesus I had no idea Anandtech was in trouble. Did they ever say anything about it? I would've signed up for a Patreon to keep them afloat.
- robin_reala 2y agoThey’ve been gradually dropping in quantity (though not quality) for a decade. The writing’s been on the wall for a long time.
- user_7832 2y agoYeah I don't think they ever mentioned anything before this. I suspect this was a slow decline over several years and many meetings where they realized they'd either have to "sell out" or shut doors - if it were a new sudden thing they probably would've asked for help or indicated a willingness to try and stay afloat. I can't really blame them.
- dartharva 2y ago> In-depth reporting isn’t always as sexy or as exciting as other avenues, but now, more than ever, it’s necessary to counter sensationalism and cynicism with high-quality reporting and testing that is used to support thoughtful conclusions. Very true. But, in-depth reporting doesn't have to be not-sexy either. Considering the marked drop in audience attention spans in today's world along with the emergence of AI-driven knowledge sources, journalists will benefit a lot from just improving their presentation from long-form writing to something analogous to presentation slides with understandable visualizations.
- maxbond 2y ago> And while the AnandTech staff is riding off into the sunset, I am happy to report that the site itself won’t be going anywhere for a while. Our publisher, Future PLC, will be keeping the AnandTech website and its many articles live indefinitely. This is often not how these things go, and Future PLC deserves credit for good citizenship.
- Lammy 2y agoI am already mirroring the entire site lol
- maxbond 2y agoPrudent!
- unethical_ban 2y agoI agree. Archivists shouldn't hold their breath, anyway.
- rchaud 2y agoThanks to an in-depth Anandtech review way back in 2011, I purchased a super cheap Dell Vostro laptop with a staggering 8 hours of battery life, pretty much unheard of for Windows laptops at the time. Plenty of OEMs would straight up lie, but AT's battery tests provided the proof consumers needed. It's sad to see the state of 'tech journalism' in the Youtube age when it comes to hardware products. I feel like I'm watching a 20-minute lifestyle commercial rather than an actual nuts-and-bolts review. I guess that's what gets views and affiliate link revenue now.
- breck 2y agoWait what is happening? I'd like to bring AnandTech content to the public domain. Put it on the world wide scroll. Let me know if I can help breck7@gmail.com
- deweller 2y agoFrom the article: > Our publisher, Future PLC, will be keeping the AnandTech website and its many articles live indefinitely. So that all of the content we’ve created over the years remains accessible and citable.
- jl6 2y agoA very sad, but not unexpected, end to another important source of quality journalism. Outcompeted, no doubt, by the noise & churn of the attention economy. I hope they open source their benchmarking procedures. It’s valuable to see the results of comparable testing across multiple generations of hardware.
- keiferski 2y agoI am not super familiar with AnandTech, but I question the idea that "tech journalism" is dead or dying. Marques Brownlee has almost 20 million subscribers on YouTube. Consumer Reports has 6 million members. Etc. The difference, I think, is that media is shifting to video as the default, for better or worse. Looking at their YouTube channel, AnandTech only has about 20,000 subscribers, which looks like they never quite figured out how to transfer their content into video format.
- layer8 2y agoFor worse. The main reason for tech journalism being more sustainable on YouTube is non-skippable ads and the recommendation algorithm.
- keiferski 2y agoI'm more optimistic. Video may be clunky and largely difficult to search within now, but in the near future, with AI transcription and some kind of new UI, will become as easy to access as text is today.
- jeffbee 2y agoUnlike a random blog, I can pay YouTube to remove all the ads. I watch GN videos, and they get paid, but I never see ads other than GN's sponsor message and merch which are trivial to skip. Compare AnandTech which has always been a user-hostile visual insult. The whole article is covered in ads. You can barely find the words. The articles are needlessly split over 25 pages so you click and load over and over. They really pioneered a lot of bad patterns.
- layer8 2y ago> I can pay YouTube to remove all the ads Yes, and I do that myself, but most people don’t, and the overall model wouldn’t work without the ads.
- NoxiousPluK 2y agoI agree, but so does the article; I quote: "Still, few things last forever, and the market for written tech journalism is not what it once was – nor will it ever be again."
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- INTPenis 2y agoIn a hostile landscape it seems that the good ones shutdown, and the indifferent ones sell out.
- K33P4D 2y agoI remember reading their review for the Core 2 Duo E7500, which was my first foray into PCMR back in 2009 along with a GTX 260. FSB multipliers were fun! Quite sad, we lost two of the greatest tech journalism of yesteryears, Game Informer and now Anandtech. Maximum PC barely hung on and later were boughtout by PCgamer. I doubt anything will replace the in-depth tech journalism of Anandtech without visible paid biases and manipulation by big tech. I think Video centric media tech houses will rule the roost like Linus Media, GamerNexus and HuB. Hoping Igors lab, chips&cheese and der8auer to carry the baton forward. I will kiss an old LGA 775 processor in their honor, rest in circuits.
- awill 2y agoI will really miss this site. They did incredible deep reviews of tech. But once Anand left, the site started dying. They posted 1 review a month, and didn't even cover the iphone or galaxy or pixel launches. How on earth was that meant to survive?
- xnx 2y agoSome macro-trends that must have contributed: * Rise of social media * Popularity of short-form video * Significant deceleration in single-core performance gains * Focus on fashion (e.g. colored LEDs) over performance in computers * Popularity of smartphones/consoles
- esafak 2y agoI assume it is because DIY PCs plateaued two decades ago. Now it's all Macs, mobiles, and consoles.
- xnx 2y agoAgree. The most significant improvement in a long time has been has been SSDs. Was cool to have lived through a period where compute power was delivering real-world 2x performance every 18 months.
- ThrowawayTestr 2y ago>Focus on fashion People have been tricking out their rigs with fancy lighting since the beginning, it's not a new development.
- endisneigh 2y agoUnsurprising - people don’t pay, and their audience is perhaps a bit more likely to use Adblock, not to mention the decline in news in general.
- ryukoposting 2y agoAnandtech is how I learned what Ubuntu is. I must have been about 10 years old, and the concept of any OS besides Windows or MacOS was completely foreign to me. Within a few weeks, I had dug an old laptop out of my dad's bin of "stuff work wasn't using anymore" and I managed to put Ubuntu on it. I think it was an HP. I don't remember the exact specs but I do remember that the GPU was failing, there were weird video glitches all the time, and the battery held a charge for about 15 minutes. That was my first experience with Linux. That broken-ass computer was what I used when I learned Arduino. I'm now a firmware engineer, writing this comment on my work laptop, which is running Ubuntu.
- whatever1 2y agoStill the GPU barely works
- ForOldHack 2y agoThat is not MY Fault.
- asadm 2y agoPR welcome
- cseleborg 2y agoThere's an excellent podcast called Acquired with a 3-part episode covering the birth and evolution of NVIDIA, highly recommended.
- vergessenmir 2y agoMakes me feel old. I was at uni when Ubuntu came out. But my story was similar to yours in the mid 90s and I got hold of a walnut creek cd with Slackware from some PC mag, a couple floppy disks and discarded hardware and I was off to the races There was something about discovering tech through dedicated tech sites back then that felt exciting. Now, any time I find something new it always has a polished marketed feel to it and has none of the secretive clandestine undiscovered power that old tech had. I guess I am getting old
- bosky101 2y agoMaybe a potential acquirer could start a video team to catchup with modern times.
- Havoc 2y agoFirst time I’m actually seeing a picture of Anand! Always figured there is probably some young guy named that behind it but never put a face to it
- pts_ 2y agoDang silly videos took down written journalism. Readers are mourning.
- Brett_Riverboat 2y agoOne of the few tech outlets that I find to be trustworthy, it's sad to see them go.
- scrlk 2y agoI'm sad to hear that they're shutting down. I thought that Anandtech would be one of the holdouts for written tech journalism in a world that's become increasingly video first. What are people reading these days for hardware reviews? I find that Notebookcheck and GSMArena are decent for laptop and phone reviews respectively.
- getlawgdon 2y agoCan't believe it! Thank you, Anadtech, for all the great stuff over the years.
- gigatexal 2y agoHoly smokes. End of an era. I was around when the ghz wars were happening. I remember reading SharkyExtreme, hothardware, 2CPU.com, hardocp, anandtech and others for their reviews. Sad. Very sad. I almost wish they had not decided to close up shop. Instead spin out and go sub only.
- openrisk 2y ago> the market for written tech journalism is not what it once was - nor will it ever be again This is very darkly ominous and of course it does not apply just to tech journalism. Written communication, by real people, is not an optional luxury, its the best means to exchange dense, valuable, high quality information. It feels as if the current digital "economy" is hell-bent to turn society into an illiterate, short-video watching, ad-clicking mob. Not sure there has ever been technological innovation that was so regressive in its impact, profiting by actively degrading the human condition. Alas, here we are and we can't blame the Martians.
- knodi123 2y agoCompare broadcast television's first days with what it is now. There are a lot of parallels.
- spacemadness 2y agoIt’s not really a “current economy” thing or anything to do with technological innovation itself. As someone mentioned elsewhere, our economic model of line must go up quarterly forever is the real thing to fix here. Does turning society into an illiterate mob make sense long-term? Most would say no. Does it make sense short-term? Unfortunately it makes a lot of sense as long as you can get out with your cash hoard before everything burns. Companies are simply acting towards what we have been incentivizing for decades now.
- openrisk 2y ago> you can get out with your cash hoard cash is effectively claims against what other people can give you in the future. An illiterate mob can only give you very few things of value. So, indeed, this is short-termism running society to the ground - as if there is no tomorrow.
- spacemadness 2y agoThis is why some of the rich are constructing elaborate bunkers just in case. So I guess there is some long-term strategizing after all.
- AlexDragusin 2y ago> And while the AnandTech staff is riding off into the sunset, I am happy to report that the site itself won’t be going anywhere for a while. Our publisher, Future PLC, will be keeping the AnandTech website and its many articles live indefinitely. THANK YOU!
- Lammy 2y agoⓍ Doubt
- will_lam 2y agoDamn. End of an era. Anandtech was the reason I got into hardware and computers in general.
- nullsmack 2y agoAbsolutely gutted to see another long running website from the glory days of the Internet closing up shop.
- erickhill 2y agoAnantech was the high watermark in tech journalism and the only place I'd go to look at in-depth (sometimes beyond belief) reviews of Apple hardware test results not found anywhere else on the web. Page after page after page of detailed tests and results. Hard to imagine that type of content being lucrative from a display-ad point of view if they used traditional ad networks, but the effort was absolutely appreciated and respected by readers. A sad day but considering how the online ad market has tried to force publishers to focus on video content an understandable one for printed-word journalists. It's awful.
- epolanski 2y agoThis is true, and I second your sadness. They always had those 1/2/3 pages more than competitors about architecture details at the start of every review. But apparently right now it pays more to do a cheap video review on YouTube with fake benchmarks, you get the hundred thousands video views, sell the hardware and call it a day.
- xyzzy4747 2y agoI guess it's too much work to write articles all the time?
- abixb 2y agoBreaks my heart. Grew up reading AnandTech in the early 2010s for all things hardware -- processor releases, updates to the DDR SDRAM standard, motherboard and NAND flash reviews. The era of unbiased, objective and deeply technical journalism is dying out. Sad.
- mastax 2y agoIt's very sad but not unexpected. Hard to live off advertising when your demographics are prime adblock users. I did disable adblock on AnandTech when I remembered to, and gritted my teeth at how awful it was to have ads covering every square millimeter of free space.
- wejick 2y agoThere was time I read Tom's Hardware and thought that was the top of tech journalism and reviews,until the (i don't remember when) a revamp to the site that focused more on news. Then I found anandtech, reading all in depth article from the marketing material down to architecture level. It was very eye opening, the quality and depth is even on higher level. I was sad when Ian left, but now it's the ultimate sadness.
- CoastalCoder 2y agoTom's Hardware took a nosedive when Thomas Pabst left. Selling it to have time with his kids (IIRC) was a fantastic choice, but I miss his version of it for sure.
- AdrianB1 2y agoThere was a time in early 2000's when both sites were great and very competitive. I was reading both to see what opinions they have about products they both reviewed. Quality was very good on both sites, it changed later.
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- monkeydust 2y agoReal Shame. Does make me think what kind of business model is needed for this type of publication to survive and thrive? There must be a way ... I would really hope. Would be very curious at to the conversations that happened at Future PLC prior to shutting this asset down. Couldn't find much on companies fillings.
- kevstev 2y agoYeah- I am personally struggling to understand how a website could be successful in 1997 run out of an apartment, but now that the PC and tech industry is many times bigger these sites can't make a go of it. And the headwinds Anand and Ars etc faced... I remember back in the 90s they wouldn't let them into Computex and CES. Interestingly it was just last week that I was looking into building a NAS (Synology is leaning in hard on enshitification lately) and its suprisingly feasible, and I was wondering why no one talks about motherboards anymore, only CPUs/GPUs, and occasionally disks (spinning rust or solid state)- I thought I might have just been mentally ignoring those articles, but they really don't exist anymore. Ars/Anand/Toms had reviews for models once every 6 months or so. Into the graveyard you go with, Aces Hardware, Sharky Extreme, Thresh's Firingsquad, and I am sure I am forgetting others that I used to load up every day but just don't exist anymore.
- Ekaros 2y agoI wonder when text based media actually became unsustainable on Internet. And how publications somehow lasted until now, was there still someone funding them in hopes of them working out? Like whole timeframe when things went from somewhat sustainable to unsustainable.
- lvl155 2y agoAnandtech, Slashdot, etc. These are some of the best websites that I followed throughout my career. Slashdot is where I learned about bitcoin for example. Phoronix is another. Level1Tech replaced some of these for me but the long forms are harder to come by these days.
- wkat4242 2y agoI already kinda moved away from reading it after Anand moved to Apple. The quality and frequency seemed to drop and I lost interest.
- Ataraxic 2y agoJust wanted to say that I remember joining the Anandtech forums in middle school in the early 2000's and was quite active for a number of years. Reading articles and discussions there was my first experience getting into tech and helped my build my first computer. I hope the editor and writers of Anandtech know the impact they had!
- pajeets 2y agoFor Anandtech to shut down means we are headed for a major recession.
- jmyeet 2y agoHaven't all the good review article sites disappeared at this point? DPReview springs to mind. Anandtech was always reliable. It was Tom's Hardware when Tom's Hardware sold out (some 20 years ago). Many here may not even know that Tom's Hardware was originally a well-respected source of information. But I guess Tom's Hardware was a glimpse into the future, low-quality content litttered with affiliate-spam. But there is a market for high-quality content still. I can't help but think that the article sites simply failed to adapt. Look at Linus's Tech Tips [1]. Yes, video production is expensive but the advertising revenue is also higher. None of these sites seemed to have adapted to the world of short form video content (Tiktok, Youtube Shorts, IG Reels) in a way that feels fresh, organic and useful. Reddit seems to be the last bastion of getting authentic information and even that is steadily getting astroturfed. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/user/linustechtips https://www.youtube.com/user/linustechtips
- instagraham 2y agoA red flag needs to go up when Future PLC buys anything. We need a case to be made for enthusiast-owned media. Anything left to the corporates will eventually degrade and die. This is something I will work on, once I reach the stage of my life that involves capital. Things need to be better for the niche reporting world.
- maxglute 2y agoDid not think Anandtech would have lasted almost 30 years. Sad non the less. What's the oldest tech site still around now?
- ianbnet 2y agoThis is really tragic. I understand the pressures that Anandtech is under, and of course they've just been doing it for so long that I have to think Ryan and team are burnt out, but what a bummer! AFAIK Anandtech is unique at least in the English-language internet. It's going to leave a huge hole. I'm glad the forums continue and hope they thrive. Those forums are where I started my tech support journey 20+ years ago. It'll be interesting to see if Toms can fill in some of the more in-depth, technical and objective reporting.
- elvircrn 2y agoLast week while looking into the Apple DMP exploit paper [1], I noticed that the researchers were inspired by this [2] anandtech article. Y'all will be missed. [1] https://www.prefetchers.info/ https://www.prefetchers.info/ [2] https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/apple-silicon-m1-a14-deep-dive/3 https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/apple-silicon-m1-a14-de...
- watersb 2y agoHow to say enough? Thank you thank you thank you CPU Microarchitecture analysis was the best, after Ars Technica cofounder Jon Stokes retired from his site: Anand and Brian Klug and Ian Cutress; I'm certain I've overlooked a few stellar tech analysts. Especially during the era when Intel was trying to wedge x86 into mobile and even wearable devices. Of late, the site has been posting the occasional deep-dive hardware review (notably, PC power supplies by E. Fylladitakis) and industry breaking news (Ganesh, Anton Shilov), but it's all moved to Tom's Hardware.
- watersb 2y agoWhere to go now? Chips and Cheese https://chipsandcheese.com/ https://chipsandcheese.com/ Serve the Home https://www.servethehome.com/ https://www.servethehome.com/ Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/ https://www.tomshardware.com/
- otterley 2y agoNo not Tom’s Hardware. That site is basically UGC now and is hot garbage.
- hollerith 2y agoUGC == user-generated content.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoI was going to say ArsTechinica which I have fond memories of from many years ago, but I just took a look and I don’t even recognize it - looks more like engadget. So, no, not recommending.
- theevilsharpie 2y agoArs Technica is more of a general tech and science news site. They do some computer hardware and phone reviews, but nowhere near what a dedicated tech site does, and they're often not Day 1 reviews. I find their content generally pretty high quality for their niche (with Beth Mole's and Eric Berger's content being my personal standouts), but Ars Technica is by no means a substitute for a site like AnandTech.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoHave they changed to be more of a general tech news science in recent years? I remember them being much more technical review focused years ago, but I might be remembering incorrectly.
- WoodenChair 2y ago
- foobarian 2y agosic transit gloria mundi
- agumonkey 2y agoOne of my main bookmarks when I got an internet connection. o7
- LooseMarmoset 2y agoSo many good sites gone, or unrecognizable due to clickbait or outrage news. In particular: Anandtech Tech Report HardOCP Ars Technica (Eric Berger is the lone holdout here) Slashdot the list goes on. I'm glad at least that Anand went out as he went in. Thanks for all the years, Anand!
- josemanuel 2y agoFelt like it went downhill once Ian Cutress left..
- blowsand 2y agoInteresting, it was literally exactly 10 years ago Anand announced his exit. https://www.anandtech.com/show/8456/the-road-ahead https://www.anandtech.com/show/8456/the-road-ahead
- tristor 2y agoThis is a very sad day. Along the way in my life and career I had a brief stint building custom computers for other people, and I spent quite a lot of time getting into overclocking for myself. Those journeys and my interest in computer hardware, performance, security, and how that impacted systems was heavily influenced by gaming and by the community that surrounded it. Most of the places I used to haunt are long gone, but through all that AnandTech was always around. It's the first place I go when I want to learn about a piece of hardware, and now it's gone. I am happy at least that there are others trying to carry the torch. Gamer's Nexus, Chips and Cheese, and a few small blogs here and there are still trying to dig into the nitty gritty of computer hardware in a way that's not only approachable, but accurate, without all the marketing BS. It's unfortunate though that it's so hard to make something like this survive.
- blowsand 2y agoThis may not be a popular opinion, but this news reminds me how much I miss the Block-era Engadget, and even the old Gizmodo. Both have woven politics in so deeply and the writing at times so clearly uninformed that they are not enjoyable.
- declan_roberts 2y agoI was genuinely curious what type of politics a tech website like Gizmodo would get into. Then I saw they have a "politics" section, with 9 out of the 20 first articles with "Trump" in the headline. Now I understand.
- rootusrootus 2y agoAt this point I’m more surprised when someone doesn’t find a way to work politics into whatever they are saying. We are well past the point when a site needed to have some plausible connection to politics to justify including it. The number of random Kamala blow job innuendo comments I’ve seen posted in completely unrelated topics in the last few jobs is disheartening.
- arandomsapien 2y agoI feel so nostalgic when these old places close up shop. I remember visiting AnandTech in the late 90s when I was still struggling to install Linux. Back when brick and mortar software stores were still a thing, staffed by like minded nerds who were happy to guide a young one and share knowledge. I can't think of many other sites that have been around this long. https://www.bluesnews.com/ https://www.bluesnews.com/ for gaming news comes to mind. It's been going since 96.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoThe Register. But it’s also not a good as it used to be.
- Farfignoggen 2y agoAs far as Anandtech's published article history that has to be kept online or else so much Wikipedia content will lose the Anandtech article references that are used heavily there and in other places online! So the status of that content needs to be discussed and how that can be preserved!
- ChrisMarshallNY 2y agoIt will be missed. > AnandTech’s final boss Quips like that, are one reason.
- locallost 2y agoI think the underrated aspect of the downfall is just how much tech was for the lack of a better word commoditized. I used to be the target audience, but even I don't really care that much anymore about all the details -- my last PC was built over 10 years ago, and when my laptop dies I will again buy a laptop that is the best combination of performance and hassle free. And the new generation that still cared never peeked beyond YouTube, which is definitely true. It's actually crazy how fast new media became old media.
- ghc 2y agoThis makes me incredibly sad. Nothing lasts forever, but AT has been a part of my life since it launched, when I was a teen obsessed with computers. I didn't feel so sad when Slashdot or The Inquirer declined, maybe because they were in decline over a long period. But AT was special, they only declined in review frequency, not quality.
- seatac76 2y agoSad day but I guess Anand moving to Apple made this more plausible. I’m going to miss the meticulously perf charts. They do have some great talent, I hope they go on to do great tech journalism.
- spaceguillotine 2y agoup next slashdot? feels like the old internet is nearly gone
- nubinetwork 2y agoNot Slashdot, buy soylent news is also circling the drain...
- lxgr 2y agoThat's so sad. Farewell and thanks for everything! For me, the beginning of the end was when Anand and Brian Klug both moved to Apple. While I bet that they're doing great things there, I've been significantly less fascinated by new hardware, and in particular Apple hardware, ever since. Shiny exteriors and magical features might appeal to many, but to me, somebody explaining in all detail what makes it work doesn't take anything away from the magic – quite the opposite.
- emuneee 2y agoThis times 1000. I loved their deeply technical reviews and articles. I got hooked early on their CPU and GPU deep dives and their mobile deep dives in the 2010s. I've been reading them since before my teenage years and they got me interested in the insides of tech enough for me to pursue and gain my degree in Computer Engineering. It definitely changed when Anand and Brian left, but end of an era now that the site is shutting down.
- nntwozz 2y agoWhat a strange take on Apple hardware. Apple is doing amazing things with Apple silicon.
- lxgr 2y agoOf course they're doing great things, but my point is that they're trying hard to keep it a secret how they're doing them. Compare what Apple is revealing about their chips with what Intel used to present back when they were the market leader, for example. Anandtech was great at exploring these secrets and presenting their findings in a great way. That's what I miss.
- omnee 2y agoAnandtech was one of my earliest sources of highly quality tech reporting. In particular their reliance on data and testing always stood out. Many hours were spent there during my formative years. And, while I did stop reading it regularly at University, it had already played an important part in informing, and so shaping me. Thanks, and farewell!
- system2 2y agoBut the site gets millions of clicks per month. Why would they kill a google ads printing machine?
- jowdones 2y agoA bit sad. But I haven't checked the site in 10+ years. It was hot in the heydays of the Internet and Pentium processors, reading reviews about CPU and motherboard performance really helped in deciding what to buy when a top of the line computer was already obsolete a year later. Progress has essentially halted since 15+ years. Back then a new computer really coud do something the old one didn't even dreamt of. Now what can the new generation of CPU do? Watch YouTube shorts even shorter? :) Or the new Android or Apple phone? Send more pictures on WhatsApp? Literally don't see any difference between my current phone / computer compared to what I had 10 years ago. (I don't play games, maybe there it's visible somewhat). Anyhow, it was nice while it lasted but all good things must come to an end ... Bye Anandtech, you will be remembered.
- mensetmanusman 2y agoThere is an alternative history where Google and FB et al. didn’t eat up all the advertising revenue that used to sustain good journalism. It might be impossible to have independent journalism with the internet as it currently is. I don’t know what the alternative is, but I do sometimes wonder what would have happened if search engines had been prevented from displaying search results from news organizations that happened within the last month. This might have trained internet folks to go to the news websites for news and kept the economics propped up a bit better than the disaster it currently is.
- bheadmaster 2y ago> what would have happened if search engines had been prevented from displaying search results from news organizations that happened within the last month News sites would probably change whatever metadata Google is using to check site age to make their news articles appear one-day-more-than-month old to Google crawlers, all as a part of Search Engine Optimization techniques.
- grog454 2y agoThere is a trivial solution to this. Store your own copy (or hash, or whatever) of the article and don't rank it until your copy is at least a month old. The idea is still nonesense because some other search engine will show up without this restriction, and any news site would prefer to be listed there, rather than not.
- Gimpei 2y agoMy guess is that this would be even worse for news sites as it would lower their overall traffic. Certainly seems to be the case in Canada. I don’t get the sense that search engines/fb/etc are the problem. Rather it’s 1) loss of classified ads and 2) competition from all the free content provided in blogs, posts, tweets and so on. Why pay to read an uninformed opinion piece when you can get it for free scrolling through your X feed?
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- vermaden 2y agoI did not expected such a sad news this Friday ... AnandTech - one of THE sites that literally done hardware upbringing for me ... will be no more. Thank you for all the in depth reviews and explanation how hardware work - I use this knowledge to this day ... Farewell.
- rock_artist 2y ago> Finally, I’d like to end this piece with a comment on the Cable TV-ification of the web. A core belief that Anand and I have held dear for years, and is still on our About page to this day, is AnandTech’s rebuke of sensationalism, link baiting, and the path to shallow 10-o'clock-news reporting. It has been our mission over the past 27 years to inform and educate our readers by providing high-quality content That’s the core of it. And too bad they’re off. Finding a news outlet that isn’t “tweeting” an article and isn’t a blog post on HN was great. And while they mention Tom’s hardware. It always felt (to me) less verbose where I needed it. Fair well.
- harshaxnim 2y agoTangential - your last line made me think about what "Fare well" means. Weird that I come across it so often, but never stopped to think what it means. :)
- throw0101d 2y ago> Tangential - your last line made me think about what "Fare well" means. Fare is unrelated to fair: > From Middle English farewel, from fare wel! (and the variants with the personal pronoun "fare ye well" and "fare you well" used in the Renaissance), an imperative expression, possibly further derived from Old English far wel!, equivalent to fare (“to fare, travel, journey”) + well.* * https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/farewell#Etymology https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/farewell#Etymology * https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fare https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fare So to say "farewell" to someones is "have a good journey (in life?)".
- frankvdwaal 2y agoIn German there's a similar word, "fahren", which means driving or traveling. In Dutch the word "varen" mean to sail or in an older sense of the word "to move". I can only assume, but considering the Dutch "vaarwel" is so close to English, I'm going to guess it means "Go well" - or more poetically when speaking of one's path in life: may fate treat you well.
- mise_en_place 2y agoThere just isn’t a need for legacy media anymore. Anyone can shitpost all day on X or Threads and reach an audience 10x that of AnandTech or any other traditional media outfit.
- ahmetyas01 2y agoI feel old now. Shoot me
- Ylpertnodi 2y agoWhat? And you get to miss the election?
- Venkatesh10 2y agoFarewell team. One of my favorite quality reads of genuine hardware pieces on the Internet.
- ethbr1 2y agoKudos from my 2003 self, when Anandtech helped me build my first PC for university. https://www.anandtech.com/show/1094 https://www.anandtech.com/show/1094 Uni had fiber to the dorm room, so I was interested in maximizing available bandwidth through the rest of the system. Which in P4 / PCI days wasn't trivial! Ironically enough, I still have that motherboard downstairs in a backup system, humming away... with a Pentium M via adapter. :) Couldn't bring myself to put it out to pasture, and thought it was an interesting inflection point as "the last of the Netburst" era. Interestingly enough, one of my favorite uni classes was on microprocessor design, taught by someone who apparently taught Anand at NC (Tom Conte). RIP. But better to call it quits when they're playing the send-off music.
- praveen9920 2y agoWith 27 years of people’s trust, I think this is one of the best exits of tech history. Even though it’s not best financially.
- coding123 2y agoWhat killed it? that's terrible
- froggertoaster 2y agoRIP Anandtech.
- amyjess 2y agoGod, I used to read Anandtech religiously in the '00s. So sad to see them closing shop, even though I understand why.
- hermitcrab 2y agoQuality journalism struggles to turn a profit. Soon we will only have a grey goo web, created by LLMs endlessly recycling each other's output in a race to the bottom. Sad face.
- imagetic 2y agoThose OS X reviews will go down in the history books of tech journalism. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6/
- ksec 2y agoSometimes I wonder if my knowledge on hardware and software integration is largely because of I have been reading Anandtech ( and many other sources ) since late 90s. It first stated as the journey of AMD CPU. Who wouldn't want the best bang for the bucks. And then Pentium II / III, SSE. Pentium 4, Itanium, AMD64. Pentium M, Core, and then the rise of SSD. In between that we also have many Video Card reviews, S3, Matrox, Voodoo, Nvidia, ATI, PowerVR, explanation of Playstation CELL processor. Creative Sound Blaster. I think by mid 2000 all those news were quite boring. Largely because most of the consumer decisions are settled. Until iPhone came around Anandtech was the first and perhaps still the only tech site that goes behind the scene and start looking not only the Apple technology but a educational guess behind the rationale why some of those product decisions were introduced. And only after a few years Anand himself got hired from Apple. I also remember my first death threat on Anandtech Forums from Intel Fan Boys. That was before most tech people knew much about TSMC. There was a time when people think Intel is an undisputed king in technology and wont believe TSMC would take over. Lot of memories. It is very unfortunate Anandtech is closing down. I just wish I am a multi billionaire and could buy it and keep it running even as a hobby. Somewhat fortunate is that we have Chips and Cheese, a relatively new site which fills a lot of what Anandtech used to do. Servethehome for Enterprise section. Really Sad. I know some of current and ex-anandtech staff lurks on HN but dont post much. Farewell, Thank You and Good Luck to you all.
- kopirgan 2y agoOver to "Samsung will release THIS device on 2nd October" headlines in media that survive.
- spaceisballer 2y agoI really don’t want to watch ad riddled reviews on YouTube. I always went to their site to read an actual article that goes into depth about tech and gave great reviews. Truly a sad day for the internet.
- raymondh 2y agoThank you AnandTech. Happy ride in to the sunset.
- redandblack 2y agoall good things come to an end - others do too but we won't remember them. good run, and remember from the late 90s - later at my interview in Lehman Brothers, the hiring manager was looking at the site when I walked in and that was the small talk. RIP AnandTech
- phamilton 2y agoA testament to the quality of Anandtech is that in 2011 I started a job at Micron on their SSD team and the first thing they said was to go read some articles on anandtech about how SSDs work. They covered slc vs mlc, trim, etc in better detail and in a more approachable way than anything else. I've leaned on Anandtech ever since as a go-to source for understand technical innovation in hardware. Thanks for making everything that much easier to understand.
- kaptainscarlet 2y agoI learnt about intel processors on Anandtech. Everything from how the L1, L2 & L3 caches work during the time of Nehalem, Haswell, Ivybridge, Sandy bridge... the ticks and the tocks. 3D Nand, flash storage and a whole bunch of other things explained there.
- throwaway48476 2y agoSomeone needs to convince newmaxx to start a SSD review site.
- misterflibble 2y agoYes I remember reading one of those SSD articles about mlcs and it was so well written, quality knowledge captured on the internet. I hope someone starts up another anandtech like website
- sllabres 2y agoThis was a site with good content and whenever there was a link pointing to AnandTech I knew there was something interesting to discover. Thanks for all the good work!
- loongloong 2y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud6DWmWcHaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud6DWmWcHaY Dr. Ian Cutress did a video of his thoughts. (Just a subscriber of his channel)
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- BuckRogers 2y agoI read Toms Hardware before AT even existed. Toms had a dark era for a while, but Anandtech has fallen off hard for years now. It hasn't been worth even visiting. I still visit Tom's though! For me, this is a fitting end that I started with Tom's and still reading it as AT shuts down.
- Dalewyn 2y agoKnew them for most of their existence, though I never actually read them that often. On the one hand a bittersweet end to a familiar editorial, on the other hand a deserved end to one of many "journalism" outlets. No, I don't have a good opinion of journalists. In any case, RIP.
- tguvot 2y agoanybody here remembers jc-news ?
- bariswheel 2y agoSo much nostalgia from my teen and 20s, this site was not only entertaining but equally educational and always looked forward to reading the next review. I hadn't thought much of this website frankly in decades, but this is a bittersweet encounter, thank you for all the great memories and all the knowledges bestowed upon us.
- robertlagrant 2y agoIt would be extremely interesting to understand the detail of why anandtech can't function any more. Is it just too low-paid for core contributors, who could get more elsewhere? Is it the cost of running servers? What're the things that cause a web-based company like this to (seemingly) abruptly stop?
- jgaa 2y agoIt's truly sad to see one of few traditional web sites of extraordinary quality go.
- dxxvi 2y agoSo sad. I even create a userscript to reformat your website to read articles there. This is a screenshot of that format https://github.com/dxxvi/node-express-example/blob/master/Screenshot%202024-08-31%20at%2005-16-00%20End%20of%20the%20Road%20An%20AnandTech%20Farewell.png?raw=true https://github.com/dxxvi/node-express-example/blob/master/Sc...
- itissid 2y agoOne thing I can take from this is that even when you are not necessarily building all that cool/complex tech yourself, whatever else you are good at, take a good hard look at it. What ever is important to you, you can always apply what you are good at to some facet of what you admire and find value. Anandtech folks learned a lot about cool tech standing on the shoulders of giants, but they added value by teaching us what is really significant to look for and then benchmarking the hell out of it. Distilling what you like about a thing and then build it (and don't forget that finding someone to pay you to do it is essential too) is key. Intellectual honesty is key in this process: You have to be honest about what you like about the Acquisition, Assimilation, and Dissemination of your ideas and product. They did that so well. I always thought that whatever I wanted to build, it has something complex(and hence cool), but it could instead just what I want and have it be cool anyway.
- rkagerer 2y agoThis makes me so sad. AnandTech was the leading, consistently reliable source of technical information and opinion that informed my views on so many products. And it was immensely fun to read. Its departure leaves a sore gap in my technology assessment toolkit, and a heaviness in my heart. I hope tomorrow's enthusiasts take up the torch of deep technical reporting and fight back against all the shallow, clickbait reporting out there.
- nubinetwork 2y agoI'm confused, was he the only writer left? I know Anand doesn't run the site anymore, but is there really nobody to keep the site running with new articles?
- shaggie76 2y agoI wonder how much of a difference our ad-blockers made to their revenue; I always liked AnandTech and now I'll feel guilty about leaving my blocker enabled.
- comprev 2y agoThe reader demographic is more likely to run adblockers because installing them is trivial to us - in the same way a reader of a cooking website discussing flour products can probably bake a cake with their eyes closed (I on the other hand would probably burn down the kitchen).
- lofaszvanitt 2y agoDid someone create an archive for this site? It's a treasure trove for future generations to see how it distorted views when needed.
- bwb 2y agoWow, so sad to see it go... this was one of my main websites in the early days of the net. Helped me build so many computers and loved the community. I even built a website with some of the Anandtech team that consolidated reviews across the net during college. Sad day. Change be changing. I am disturbed by the death of long-form content happening. Google is failing.
- throwaway4PP 2y agoAnandTech was one of the websites that helped me as a child. I found it around 2002, and the clear-headed manner in which it discussed chip fabrication, function, lithography and the associated engineering and scientific foundations of them - as well as general concepts of bios, motherboard, chipsets, slots, bandwidth etc - helped foster a curiosity and familiarity with electronic hardware that has served me well for my whole life. It helped me dream larger than my surroundings; which in turn helped me get out of an unstable home, poverty, and a dead-end town. I was sad when [H]ardOCP went down, but this hits different.
- subarctic 2y agoI first came across AnandTech sometime in the fall of 2020 when covid lockdowns were still going strong and I was starting to get more interested in computer hardware. It seemed like a pretty decent site with good articles in a world full of crappy seo-optimized clickbait. I usually go there to read about new CPUs or CPU designs that have been released by AMD, ARM, etc. These days it feels like those aren't coming out as frequently as they did back then (not sure if this is true or if there's just more going on in my life these days) and as a result I haven't spent much time on their site lately. I'll miss them, but for what it's worth they could probably be replaced by one guy with a decent substack. Or maybe that already exists, if anyone has any recommendations let me know.
- whaleofatw2022 2y agoThis is a bit sad. Tech report became a zombie about a decade ago. Tom's hardware has always just been 'mid'. I feel old
- dramm 2y agoUgh so sad. I really liked AnandTech's knowledgeable product reviews, especially SSD reviews and benchmarks.