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My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website
- nicholasbraker 2y agoVery nice! And I actually learned something about cats. Never knew they can see a little bit behind them ;-)
- Martin_kRussell 2y ago[dead]
- p00dles 2y agothis is so inspiring. thanks for posting.
- purple-leafy 2y ago<3
- vouaobrasil 2y agoNot a bad looking website. I like it better than most of that responsive CSS/JS bloated nightmares out there. I wish more websites were faster loading like this one.
- kristopolous 2y agotry searching with https://teclis.com/ https://teclis.com/ ... Just type in some word like "cat" and click on the links. They are kinda all like that.
- mFixman 2y agoThis is a fantastic website. Thanks for the link!
- kristopolous 2y agoThe web is a lot like music and movies. There's the mainstream pop stuff and then there's the other 99.99% which is easy to forget unless you are intentional about engaging it
- k1ck4ss 2y agoI entered "mercedes w204" and found bloated stuff
- kristopolous 2y agoI think the true filter, in practice, is to filter out sites with spyware or adware. This tends towards cleaner sites and really it's the only stable fix for SEO spam
- squidbeak 2y agoSteady on. In what conceivable way is a few lines of CSS comparable to a ream of JS?
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- isoprophlex 2y agoWow, great stuff. Tell her she did a fantastic job! --- By necessity, kids these days don't even need to learn what a file is. Videos are "on youtube". Documents are stored "in ms word". The median developer even seems to have a very shallow understanding of how a computer actually works. And why would they, if they can just glue some Lambdas together to earn a buck? --- Praise those that look a bit deeper and really want to know how a thing works, how you can create something truly original with a tool, instead of simply using it along the happy path.
- falcor84 2y agoFiles are an abstraction that was very useful in the last several decades, but that just isn't as relevant in the current world. Those videos and documents you mentioned are likely managed via object storage in a distributed database, itself possibly using block storage directly, with no actual "file" in an old-school filesystem anywhere in sight. I still personally cling to files personally, but I have no real reason to believe that they are a fundamental abstraction that is more true than cloud lambdas.
- isoprophlex 2y agoSure, call them byte streams or blobs, that's fine too. I'm not disagreeing, but the point I wanted to make was that recently, people seem to have gotten the idea that their objects are semi-magical things locked into some app or some cloud service. Which is fine by the SaaS providers, or course. But it doesn't really foster understanding of the world around you. Like kids thinking corn comes from the corn factory.
- lkdfjlkdfjlg 2y agoWhen I was a kid I used to think that pasta came from a pasta factory.
- defrost 2y agoWhen we were children we were taught about the spaghetti harvest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU
- crngefest 2y agoVery cute! I did something similar with my dad when I was a kid. First basic HTML then Dreamweaver. A couple years down the road and I’m working at a SaaS company. Beware.
- berkes 2y agoMe too. First framesets, handcrafted. Then Dreamweaver and Photoshop slicing (forgot what this monstrosity was called). Via PHP portals, CMSes (Drupal!). Decades later I'm tuning YAML files that trigger ansible runs on CIs that compile docker images in which we embed hundreds of npm packages that get transpiled from typescript. Which gets released to cloud serverless edge thingies that store stuff in a database and on some block storage. All to serve a page that's similar in information and feature-density to what I handcrafted back in 1999 in notepad.exe. Yet hundreds of times the size, thousands of times more complex and much, much slower to run and load. (I'm not exaggerating, but I did pick the worst example. Most of my work is building backend stuff in rust, simple static sites in hugo or jekyll and occasionally sime JS or TS to spice these static sites up with client-side features)
- freedomben 2y ago> All to serve a page that's similar in information and feature-density to what I handcrafted back in 1999 in notepad.exe. Yet hundreds of times the size, thousands of times more complex and much, much slower to run and load. Seriously, I think about this quite often. I recently found some old code that I wrote in the early 00s and it was wonderfully simple, and aside from a few visual trends that have changed, it looks pretty damn good. Straightforward layout, good information density, and very clean. The best part is the code is vastly simpler than anything I've seen/built in the last couple of decades (especially since CSS, packers/transpilers, etc started arriving). I grant that there are some good reasons to introduce CSS and divs and all that, and that once we've done that it is inconsistent to have some things done in html and others in css, but sometimes philosophically better isn't better in practice. Sometimes.
- sausajez 2y agoI just had a visceral reaction to reading Dreamweaver... god those were not the days haha
- jstummbillig 2y ago"Did you know that a cat can fall from a 32 story building and survive!" I love how this ends on an exclamation mark and not a question mark. Obvious in hindsight.
- sunnybeetroot 2y agoLove it! Well done Naya, the information on the page is excellent! By any chance was this made on a tablet? I see it mentions “tablet… make a website”. Perhaps if children grow up having accessing to tablets over computers, making websites on them won’t seem as foreign compared to a computer.
- dgb23 2y ago> A dog that my aunt has uses a button to tell her if she's hungry or tired. I‘m intrigued! We also have two dogs and the more I know them, the more I‘m fascinated by their ability to tell us exactly what they feel. I didn’t know they can learn to use buttons to do this.
- Neurocynic 2y agoHave fun - https://www.hungerforwords.com/ https://www.hungerforwords.com/
- isoprophlex 2y agoHoly fuck that's incredibly interesting! The dog knows it's own name, composes multi word sentences... that's consciousness and volition on par with humans.
- mavhc 2y agohttps://neurosciencenews.com/animal-communication-18280/ https://neurosciencenews.com/animal-communication-18280/
- netcraft 2y agocheck out Bunny: https://www.instagram.com/whataboutbunny/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/whataboutbunny/?hl=en
- sandman83 2y agoshe's done an amazing job! More motivation to teach my 6.5 year old something about HTML
- saghul 2y agoLove it! The background is awesome! The 90s / early 2000s vibes this gives! Looks straight out of geocities and I love it. Great work Naya!
- fintler 2y agoShe picked the image from a search and download it, then I had her open it up in Preview and set the transparency. Worked out well.
- raleighm 2y agoWell done.
- voidUpdate 2y agosmh, wheres the responsive react frontend and the database and nodejs backend? /s :P
- louwhopley 2y ago...and the websockets!?
- sdoering 2y agoWow. This is so much better than what I created as my first website in 1997 when I was 19 years old. I am deeply impressed.
- sachinjain 2y agoThis looks like a solid first step. I am also teaching my 8yo a bit of coding, starting with HTML but he complains about a lot of typing, he is slow in typing so it becomes painful for him. Did your daughter face this problem?
- fintler 2y agoWe have her setup with iMessage (with screen time to limit who she's talking with), so she chats with the family pretty often. I think that may have helped with typing speed.
- puttycat 2y agoI wish all websites looked like this again. Great job!
- omneity 2y agoGreat work! Back in the day (when I was about 9 years old) I did something similar but for my poetry and dinosaur related interests, and that kicked off my still ongoing multi-decade journey in web development. Ah the good old days :')
- nathell 2y ago<body background="animals.jpg"> <center> Exactly as I would do it if I were a 7yo. Speak what you will about the virtues of CSS and semantic markup, these things get in the way of having fun. And can be learned later.
- fintler 2y agoI was really happy this still works. It's how I learned.
- isoprophlex 2y agoTotally agree with you. Not a front end dev myself, and I have multiple variations of "how do i center a div" in my search history, haha. With varying degrees of angry expletives added to the query.
- cronin101 2y agoKids these days don’t know how easy they have it with flexbox!
- WorldMaker 2y agoWho needs Flexbox's inscrutable 1-dimension language when you can use ASCII diagrams in CSS Grid for clever 2D things easily? CSS Grid Kids are truly spoiled.
- eitland 2y agoShe really nailed page load speed and to a large degree UX (links are clearly links, navigation just works). Many large companies have wasted lots of money on performance and UX while still being worse than this!
- RobertJaTomsons 2y agoI love this domain name so much. <3 Great job to your daughter.
- isatty 2y agoThis is great, it looks nice, works exactly as one would expect it to (very links, no clickbait), cats (the internet was made for cats after all) and loads instantly.
- dchest 2y ago<img src="catcute.jpg" width="500px" height="400px" ></img> Width and height must be specified without units (although looks like browsers accept it, probably by ignoring the unit). IMG tags are self-closing, so you can omit </img> <img src="wool.jpg" width="500px" height="400px" ></img> The dog picture has wrong aspect ratio. The dog is squeezed! It should be 620 × 349 or, if 500 width or 400 height is needed, there's a good mathematical task to calculate the size of the other side. <br/> No need for / in HTML. unicorn.html unicorncopy.html Page for cats is named unicorn.html! and for computers it's unicorncopy!!! PS I don't like that CloudFlare Pages strips .html. Too magical.
- _def 2y agoAnd still with all of that it completely serves its purpose
- dchest 2y agoThe dog page should be banned in the EU because it doesn’t disclose that the picture has been digitally altered, promoting impossible beauty standards for pets.
- isoprophlex 2y agoIs this code review of HTML written by a 7 year old too hackernews, or just hackernews enough? Who can tell!
- dchest 2y agoYes.
- cowsaymoo 2y agoWhen the Trump assassination attempt happened last week and every single post on here was still about computers that's when I realized this place is different
- halfmatthalfcat 2y ago
- fifteen1506 2y agoIs it her true name? I've been trying to get mine to use an alias but so far is one per service and loses a bit of magic.
- fintler 2y agoIt is! I got lucky with the domain.
- andreime 2y agoNot very different than what I did when I started, with XHTML et al. She did a great job.
- icoder 2y ago> computers are a very important form of technology. Without it no websites, no Roblox studio, and no nothin. Oh yes indeed.
- junon 2y agoHeck yeah this is exactly how I started when I was 6. HTML books at the library and websites exactly like this. Love this OP, thank you for sharing.
- TonyTrapp 2y agoLove the 90s look. Well done!
- sleepyhead 2y agoMore correct html than a senior react dev.
- thepancake 2y agoI actually learned something about cats from her page. Thanks!
- Michvalwin 2y agoShe centered the page like a pro. Also, It gave me nostalgia watching how fast the page loads.
- Vt71fcAqt7 2y agoThis is actually better than 90% of websites today: loads fast, no nav bars, no position: sticky, no cookie popups, no ads. The content is informative and straight to the point. A website worthy to be the inverse of the much ignored related guideline: >Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.
- duiker101 2y agoFantastic! Only comment I could possibly have is that the cats page needs more pics of cats.
- benterix 2y ago> Without computers used have to use tablets. Tablets aren't very useful. That's the spirit!
- hunter2_ 2y agoUntil you get to the tablet page, at which point it's useful indeed!
- Nition 2y agoClassic marketing.
- autoexec 2y agoI feel bad for all the kids whose parents think giving them a tablet or smart phone is the same as having a real computer. They're depriving their children of something really magical by leaving them with devices built primarily for personal data collection and content consumption instead of a tool for creation.
- themadturk 2y agoWhat's a computer? I'll show myself out...
- yashg 2y agoThis is so cool. The site loads fast, is responsive and will work on all browsers. My very first website on Geocities looked pretty much like this. Joy of creation. Good job.
- numerative 2y ago>Tablets aren't very useful. Well to do stuff Computers can anyway.
- sph 2y agoTell her she chose a fantastic background image :) Also cheetahs are beautiful felines and instead of roaring, they chirp like birds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Qh3VTmtxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Qh3VTmtxU
- royal_ts 2y agoit's so cute, I love everything about it
- eska 2y agoRecently I see more and more articles and social media posts surprised about the current youth’s lack of a mental model how computers actually work. I assume this is due to smartphones and tablets not letting them experiment. Laptop hardware is also usually not made to tinker with. OP, I think you’re doing your daughter a great service with building an attitude that computers are just machines that can be learned about and understood. I started with HTML at 10 years old, and it gave me a lasting passion about the internet and connecting the world, leading to peace among distant people. Nowadays as an adult I’m unfortunately disillusioned due to negative aspects of social media, dating apps, and fake news, but alas.. Maybe in the future you can show her light javascript, the WAMP stack to make a guestbook (beware of spam nowadays), a cat image gallery with upload function (and a password). The latter features requiring something like PHP or perhaps python nowadays, and some database (I used mysql 25 years ago, perhaps sqlite or postgres nowadays?)
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- fx1994 2y agoLet her play like other kids.
- denysvitali 2y agoThe page is not responsive... /s Jokes aside, impressive for a 7 years old!
- Maksadbek 2y agoFantastic! Are you going to teach her JavaScript as well ?
- Gnarl 2y agoThis is absolutely adorable :) Well done Naya!
- mattront 2y agoGreat job Naya :) For other parents here, if your kids are interested in learning HTML and CSS with the help of cute aliens, my son (who was 11 at the time) and I built HTML Planet for Kids [0]. The course uses a visual editor for manipulating HTML, so that there is less typing and frustrating syntax mistakes, while still exposing the code directly without any added abstractions. [0] https://htmlplanetforkids.com/ https://htmlplanetforkids.com/
- Anaphylaxis 2y agoIt's nice that you advertise your business here but for a passionate child this is boring. Double-clicking a box and changing text teaches them nothing, instead of paying $9/mo I can pay $0/mo and have them utilize free courses, YouTube, and teach them how to read documentation like MDN which will benefit them way more than simply teaching them how to use your website.
- mattront 2y agoNot every child is the same - some enjoy our course and find it valuable. HTML Planet can spark kids interest for going deeper into web creativity. Self-learning resources you mentioned require strong pre-existing motivation and/or hands-on parental guidance. Some kids have that naturally while others require more gentle kid-friendly introduction.
- royal_ts 2y agoCute page but what's the cloudflare analytics for
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- otar 2y agoAwesome! I love seeing kids play around with code. Curiosity is very important at any age. That’s how I started too. Back in the days of Internet Explorer, I used to click View -> Source and mess around with the HTML in Notepad. I’d change the content, blocks, colors... About 25 years later, I’m still coding, but right now I’m deploying the data transformation pipeline (T in the ELT) on production server to calculate business KPIs.
- devoutsalsa 2y agoNow tell her to deploy it on Kubernetes.
- rokisen157 2y ago7 years old? Don't force kids If you need your kid to be kid. Hand coding HTML is just trash than collecting leaves & beautify the kindergarden book. I've no memory for last 10+ years other than computer and programming. All I've pretty beautiful memory from childhood.
- jbjbjbjb 2y agoMaybe the kid likes to learn about computers and there’s enough time to do both.
- rokisen157 2y agoI've not seen any gentle pups either elephant cubs. Kids are universally same even in all species. But may be.
- j45 2y agoHTML is fine to lean to code by hand. Tags can provide clear starts and ends for beginners, as well as concepts of nesting. Folks who learned to code HTML using a wysiwyg html editor may be able to describe how it helped them learn.
- rokisen157 2y agoYes correct, it's a good startup but 7 years was too kid. At least 12 years is fine. Kids life are so different, joyful, curious, etc. Any kid will be come adult to learn code or do whatever work. Programming isn't big deal any old age man can do programming. Anyone can learn programming at any age. But kids life never come back. At least teaching standard mathamatics like bits and bytes with abacus can be acceptable. It might be helpful to improve the math skill along with their school syllabus. Math is universally standard. Math actually improves our lifestyle. But programming is just text format that a engineer designed. A well designed IDE with voice assist can replace all kind of programming.
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- 11235813213455 2y agoSome issues she can improve on: - H1 content is too long, it should be less than 60 characters, use <p> for the rest of secondary content - There should be only exactly 1 H1 per page
- jader201 2y agoI hope the “/s” was implied. I thought about making a similar post, in the true spirit of a “Show HN”, but would have included the “/s”.
- commandlinefan 2y agoSame here, but I figured nobody would get the joke. From his downvote count, it looks like I was right.
- 11235813213455 2y agoEven if not, why would it be so bad to give advices to a young girl?
- commandlinefan 2y agoApparently so.
- 11235813213455 2y agoObviously, but it still hurts me to see multiple H1 in a page
- kaffeeringe 2y agoReminds me of my first website, back in 1994/95. I used yellow text on bright blue backgroud and wrote about music I liked. Only I was 10 years older.
- mg 2y agoAwesome! That's pretty much how I make websites up to this day. Later, if it grows, I usually add a stylesheet file to separate content and layout. Then I sometimes add some JavaScript. Then I sometimes add some backend storage and processing. Then I need a certificate for https. Then if it gets a lot of traffic, I put a CDN in front of it. And that's it.
- nmg 2y ago> Sometimes they can sleep up to like 18 or 12 hours a day. That is a lot of sleeping for a cat. Can we just put the author of these pages in charge of the whole Internet please?
- hassanr99 2y agowow, Congrats her to dev community.
- cue_the_strings 2y agoCool! I made my first HTML website in 2001, when I was 10. The ISP allowed you FTP some HTML and image files into a folder, and you got a little website. Figuring out HTML was not too hard for me as a kid. Things enclosing other things is not a hard to grasp concept. I didn't use CSS and back then you had <center> and stuff; nowadays it's frowned upon as mixing up semantics and presentation, but back then it made sense to me. But doing any sort of programming (like at least writing batch files that had ifs and loops) was way harder and it took me several years to figure out.
- matsemann 2y agoSurprisingly similar to our own web page made ~20 years ago as kids. Repeating and animated background, some theme pages with a few words about some hobby or things we liked, and then shit loads of marquee tags, heh. https://web.archive.org/web/20180330033122/http://moj24.tripod.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180330033122/http://moj24.trip...
- tintedfireglass 2y agoOh my god I did almost the same thing when I was 9, I think I lost the website though. I took excerpts from an encyclopedia on animals and made small blog style pages very similar to this . It was so fun!
- aitchnyu 2y agoI was 10 or 11 and I was typing a pocket dictionary to become first online dictionary. Guess I got as far as "abdicate". If I had succeeded, I would have used a free website generator which we call static hosts today.
- Lockal 2y ago<!-- Cloudflare Pages Analytics --><script defer src='https://static.cloudflareinsights.com/beacon.min.js' data-cf-beacon='{"token": "cf82897298e84b9eb36d9490803c2538"}'></script> Ah, kids these days!
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- lopis 2y agoWhen I was a child all we had was funky site counters. Kids these days! I wonder if she deployed this using kubernetes or what.
- otherme123 2y agoCloudflare automatically insert that snippet in your proxied pages. I don't know if you can opt out, but certainly is not an opt-in feature AFAIK.
- tremarley 2y agoI was 7 years old when I made my first website too. Back then, i remember my dad was having trouble using Dreamweaver. I went to try and help him, and found that using Dreamweaver was more fun to me than playing with my XBOX or PS1
- nunez 2y agoThis is really cool! Well done!
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- jmull 2y ago> computers are a very important form of technology. Without it no websites, no Roblox studio, and no nothin. Without computers used have to use tablets. Tablets aren't very useful. Well to do stuff Computers can anyway. Come on, Apple. A seven year-old gets it, why can't you? Let iPads run MacOS.
- dannypovolotski 2y agoThe cat page is my favorite
- j45 2y agoThis is the way.
- g105b 2y agoCute. I'd like to see a pony page please.
- lnauta 2y agoThis is adorable and made me feel good! I learned something about cats too. Thank you for sharing.
- wyclif 2y agoAs the father of a six year-old girl, the cheetahs page made total sense to me. My daughter likes to play "Name this animal" with me, where she describes the animal and I have to guess what it is. Why are six and seven year-old girls obsessed with cheetahs?, I ask myself. My guess is that it's because they are the fastest animals.
- sideshowb 2y agoYet despite their ferocity still cute, they purr rather than roar!
- ClawsOnPaws 2y agoI had the opportunity to pet a cheetah last year, and I think that is one of those things that will stay with me for the rest of my life even if I never get another chance. The cheek rubs, the purrs, just like my cats would do. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. Yes, I went straight to the cheetah page too. They're awesome! I never much thought about them until that day, but now it's a fascination.
- systemtest 2y agoI would like to subscribe for more cat facts.
- motohagiography 2y agothere aren't many tasks adults can do that cannot be taught to children. what are examples of ones that can't?
- volkadav 2y ago<3 it's good to see a little person having fun with all this technocrap that us grognards have gotten so bitter about over the years/decades. :) i hope she continues to have a blast! (from the dedication page in SICP:) “I think that it’s extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customers got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don’t think we are. I think we’re responsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun. Above all, I hope we don’t become missionaries. Don’t feel as if you’re Bible salesmen. The world has too many of those already. What you know about computing other people will learn. Don’t feel as if the key to successful computing is only in your hands. What’s in your hands, I think and hope, is intelligence: the ability to see the machine as more than when you were first led up to it, that you can make it more.” ~Alan J. Perlis (April 1, 1922 – February 7, 1990)
- HaZeust 2y agoKind of reminds me of the quote from the Steve Jobs movie: "The most efficient animal on the planet is a condor. The most inefficient animals on the planet are humans. But a human with a bicycle becomes the most efficient animal. And the right computer -- a friendly, easy computer that isn’t an eyesore but rather sits on your desk with the beauty of a tensor lamp -- the right computer will be a bicycle for the mind. A beautiful object -- perfect geometry, perfect finish, something you want to look at and have in your home. Flawless. And then a personal computer becomes an interpersonal computer. And what if instead of it being in the right hands, it was in everyone’s hands?"
- cjohnson318 2y agoDude really hit it out of the park with the "bicycle for the mind".
- rpozarickij 2y agoI haven't see the movie (only a few clips), but I enjoyed hearing this analogy from Steve Jobs himself in many of his interviews [0]. Just checked the part [1] of the movie where Michael Fassbender talks about the bicycle of the mind. He is a very good actor but it's hard to match the energy and the electric focus of Steve Jobs. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmuP8gsgWb8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmuP8gsgWb8 [1] https://youtu.be/BZYZlzIMVw8?si=u8X_mc4BX62ypRZw&t=98 https://youtu.be/BZYZlzIMVw8?si=u8X_mc4BX62ypRZw&t=98
- computerfriend 2y agoIt's a very good website. Fast, simple UX, no JavaScript and focused on content.
- dudeinjapan 2y agoFar more size efficient than anything my Frontend dev team writes. A Docker image to build a React app we have was 6GB. (“Its not our fault its NPM”) And the content is informative too!
- ryandrake 2y agoEasily beats the performance and accessibility of most of the "professionally developed" web, supported by entire teams. Naya needs to take over as VP of Engineering at Reddit. The site would actually improve using her approach.
- DaoVeles 2y agoAlso, odds of 'the hug of death' is very low on some so nimble.
- aldousd666 2y agoGood for the kid getting her hands dirty! I was learning C by the time I was 9, but if HTML and the public Internet had been around when I was that age, I may have went that way instead!
- vegancap 2y agoGreat website, and very informative! Hope she keeps it up!
- biosboiii 2y agoCloudflare Page Analytics Beacon without asking for my consent first. Hopefully she has a heavy piggybank for my incoming GDPR lawsuit /s
- antisthenes 2y agoThis looks like my first website that I made for the game Freelancer around 2003, which was essentially just a short description of the game and a bunch of screenshots I made during gameplay. It's nice that kids these days don't skip the basics. Please, please, don't ever tell her about Javascript.
- revjx 2y agoGreat job, and I didn't know cats had such a wide field of vision they could see behind them!
- hamiltont 2y agoAnyone else wanting to see the original content of /unicorn? Cats are great and all, but we want unicorns!! <3 wonderful project. Brings back memories of excitedly writing HTML in my drawing notebook and daydreaming what the pages would look like
- bdcravens 2y agoGreat job! I was significantly older when I built my first website (19, in 1996) but I'm so glad I had a space to pretty easily put up basic HTML (Geocities, though there were similar options). No WYSIWYG, no build steps, just the basic text-only HTML which created a foundation to build on. It's unfortunate there aren't really good options for that for today's younger creators. (is there?)
- musha68k 2y agoThe great https://neocities.org/ https://neocities.org/ is still alive and well.
- gtk40 2y agoI got started with Netscape Composer around this age, as you could easily switch between the HTML view and the WYSIWYG view and see what everything does. Seamonkey is a still maintained version of the old Netscape/Mozilla suite which has Composer. https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ https://www.seamonkey-project.org/
- herrkanin 2y agoI think I was 8 or 9 when I started building my first website as well, and it looked remarkably similar to this. :) I think the only difference really is that all guides used uppercase for html tags back then. Happy that went out of style.
- spdustin 2y agoWay to go, Naya! You taught me something new about cats, and I'm probably older than your dad! Keep it up, you're doing great! :)
- noisy_boy 2y agoWonder why for such a cute and clean website, uMatrix is showing cloudlflareinsights.com blocked? On the off chance that a 7 year old isn't interested in website traffic analytics, is it Cloudflare injecting their shit?
- seafoamteal 2y agoWebsites hosted on Cloudflare Pages include Cloudflare's own analytics iirc.
- benlivengood 2y agoYou can turn on MITM html injection of Cloudflare analytics for proxied sites. [0] https://developers.cloudflare.com/analytics/web-analytics/getting-started/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/analytics/web-analytics/ge...
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- coding123 2y agoThis looks like the pages I made when I was 14-ish (45yo here) on a modem.
- iamleppert 2y agoHTML is such a great abstraction and syntax. I wonder if the same 7 year old would be able to (or have the attention) to learn something like React? Probably not. Maybe we should be testing our interfaces and API's with 7 year olds from now on. If they can't or won't use it, its probably a good signal the design is wrong.
- dgb23 2y agoBeginners, especially younger ones, crave for guidance. But what they get is often loud marketing and cargo cult behavior. Now it seems to be even worse than when I was starting out. For example YT feeds get spammed with fearmongering and clickbait thumbnails. Apparently the attention of beginners is very valuable. Don't other crafts and professions have a stronger focus on understanding fundamentals? There's also much more useful information today than 20y ago though. Even though the signal to noise ratio seemingly gets smaller.
- freedomben 2y agoSeriously, thank you so much for sharing this! It brought a much needed smile to my face this morning. Please tell your daughter that Ben really liked it and his favorite page was the dogs page. Question for her: Is that a picture of your dog? Does the dog have a name?
- domatic1 2y agoit's so refreshing not to get popups and cookie gdpr nice!
- rossdavidh 2y agoOk but did you make sure she used Kubernetes to deploy? :) Seriously her web page made me smile. Well done!
- joshmanders 2y agoHahaha this thread made me buy my daughter a domain and start to teach her too as she's been interested about what I do, and I was just getting things setup and yes, her site will be deployed via kubernetes because it's easy as apart of my infra already.
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- jihadjihad 2y agocmd + option + U ... satisfied smile
- tempodox 2y agoWow, that computer page comes with a serious color shock, but I guess kids like squeaky saturated colors :D Having fun is the most important thing, everything else follows that.
- pnemonic 2y agoIt works! More than can be said for many things I have made. Congrats, Naya!
- nimbleal 2y agoI was talking to my parents the other day and surprised myself getting pretty chocked up remembering how my dad had shown me how to program an ascii animation on his 386, and how the wonder I felt at that in many ways led me to where I am today, so many years later. These things matter.
- mondrian 2y agoDo you still have the animation?
- nimbleal 2y agoI’m afraid not. It was incredibly simple, but I just remember being amazed that such a thing was even possible.
- nimbleal 2y agoIt was basically (no pun intended) this, though obviously not in bash: #!/bin/bash legs_out=( " " " .'''. " " - - " " | C ^ " " \ 7 " " | | " " / \\ " " | \\ \\ " " | \\ \\ " " / | \\ \\ " " / | \\ \\ " " / | \\ \\ " " / | |\\ \\ " " \\ \\ " " \\ " " / \\ " " / \\ " " / / \\ \\ " " / / \\ \\ " " / / \\ \\ " " / \ \\ \\ " " \\ \\ \\ \\... " " ____] [ ]" ) legs_cross=( " .'''. " " - - " " | C ^ " " \ 7 " " | | " " / \\ " " | | | " " | | | " " | | | " " | | | " " | | | " " ( | | | " " | | ) " " | | | " " | | | " " | | | " " | | ) " " | | | " " | | | " " | | | " " / | " " / | | " " \\..] / / " ) print_man() { local spaces=$1 local man=("${!2}") for line in "${man[@]}"; do printf "%*s%s\n" $spaces "" "$line" done } spaces=0 state=0 while true; do clear if (( state % 4 < 2 )); then print_man $spaces legs_out[@] else print_man $spaces legs_cross[@] fi ((spaces++)) ((state++)) if (( spaces > $(tput cols) )); then spaces=0 fi sleep 0.1 done
- tagami 2y agocats uri: /unicorn !
- syngrog66 2y agoThis should not be on HN, esp not front page.
- kstrauser 2y agoWe took a vote and decided it should be at the front.
- kstrauser 2y agoYou better believe I went straight for the cheetah page. No, I didn’t know they’re about 59 inches long! I learned something new today!
- otts_boris 2y agodoes she feel like dropping a frontend framework soon? modern webdev needs that sort of simplicity and focus on content.
- globular-toast 2y agoI wish I still had my websites from when I was around 9 or 10. Alas they were stored on a Seagate Quantum Bigfoot (a 5.25" hard disk which we our family PC had for some reason), and it failed at some point.
- marvstazar 2y agoI suggest you back up the HTML files as a record of her work when she was still a child, it will be a family treasure in the future :) You can even add it under your family's domain for safekeeping.
- johannes1234321 2y agoI would love having a backup of my websites from ~1995. But maybe my memories are more exciting than the plain truth.
- erksa 2y agoOne of mine was caught by the wayback-machine, unfortunately before I ever got to add any of the menu or content functionality. http://web.archive.org/web/20040207221902/http://home.no.net/csgomp/ http://web.archive.org/web/20040207221902/http://home.no.net... I started when I was 9, using Word as the editor. This was 5 years later and I was 14 at the time), I both wish and am ok with the content no longer being there. At least I can go back humor myself on what I put in the side-navigation.
- hnlmorg 2y agoI removed a lot of my older content from the Wayback Machine out of paranoia that future employers might find it and judge current me based off that. Pretty silly in hindsight. I do still have code archived by Planet Source Code though.
- heavyset_go 2y agoDo this before it gets the GeoCities treatment. I regret not making backups of things I made as a kid.
- rossant 2y agoAnd even better, print the website, and print the code!
- eddd-ddde 2y ago
- troymc 2y agoI learned quite a lot by viewing the source of this delightfully clean and spartan website. You don't need a DOCTYPE tag? You don't need a head tag? You don't need to declare the charset? The body tag has a "background" attribute? The HTML "center" tag still works?
- digging 2y ago> You don't need a DOCTYPE tag? > You don't need a head tag? > You don't need to declare the charset? True, there are many things you don't need for a page to be rendered in a typical browser, but that doesn't make them useless. For example, DOCTYPE has exactly one purpose: tell the browser not to treat your page like it was designed for ancient versions of Netscape Navigator or Internet Explorer, with all the "quirks" of their pre-standardization rendering engines.
- throwitaway1123 2y agoBrowsers are very lenient when it comes to HTML parsing. In fact, one of the reasons why HTML sanitization libraries like DOMPurify are so complex is because browsers will tolerate all sorts of twisted broken markup.
- TheHypnotist 2y agomarquee still works too
- drdaeman 2y agoIt's a good opportunity to tell the history of SGML, HTML, XML and XHTML (and possibly more, like long-forgotten SXML), and explain how we (the collective humanity) fu^W badly messed up our technology by following the path of least resistance because some (a lot of) lazy as^W folks can't be bothered to follow a bunch of simple rules.
- AzzyHN 2y ago"Cats are about 2 feet that means six times there height would be about 12 feet." hehehehehe
- tiffanyh 2y agoThis makes me so happy to see.
- erickhill 2y agoI love this. Her little site really takes me back to the age of the internet I often miss. Back in the 90s, fresh out of art school I knew I needed to create a portfolio website of some sort. I went to a Borders Books and got a book about 4 or 5 inches think about HTML and how to craft a site using a tool built into Netscape Navigator. Over the course of a week or so I created a site very similar in function to the one in the OP. The main difference was the content. On my homepage I featured one of my drawings - a color pencil rendering of a very large/wide man in a jock strap looking at the viewer with a cunning smile. Yes, I was very mature. You had click on his belly to enter the site. This was where I learned to make an image map for the first time. When you clicked it he said, "Ooh, that tickles" and then you were in where the portfolio and navigation was presented. It was all HTML 4, no javascript, no cookies or forms - all very basic stuff. And that site got me my first real job in the design world (at an Adobe competitor called Micrografx, which later imploded). The rest is history! Thanks, Netscape.
- foobarian 2y agoSince we're reminiscing... https://donkeyontheedge.com/mahir/ https://donkeyontheedge.com/mahir/
- xxr 2y agoBookmarked and going in the webring
- CodeWriter23 2y ago[big smile]
- tutipop 2y ago> Did you know that a dog puts its tail between its legs when it's sad. Can you spot the mistake? Neither can I. :-) Well done.
- callamdelaney 2y agoNo darkmode, literally unusable
- rchaud 2y agoNow this is the real internet. Real people writing about things they're interested in, and not with the intention of turning it into a content farm. Of course at 7 years old we cannot expect a deep, fleshed out site like in the Geocities golden age, but I wish older kids and adults would continue this practice of authoring their own pages, and manually linking them together. CMSes are incredibly limiting by design, every template forces you into the default of "blog post writing mode" when HTML offers so much more flexibility.
- doctorwho42 2y agoAgreed. I think it more has become a race to the bottom in terms of content quality/sameness due to it really being a race to make some level of profit. The whole side Hussle culture, and hyper capitalization of all things is quite prevalent throughout society. So of course it influences us to view things with the lens of "is this worth my time if I can't make $x/hr doing it?" Also, as a nondeveloper i think there is room for a centralized hub for decentralized geocities-esc websites. Especially with the degradation of google search over the years, and the potential for a race to a deeper bottom than before due to AI generated content
- 29athrowaway 2y agoSee also: Dead internet theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory
- neocron 2y agoWhats wrong with using a CMS? A lot of them offer html content elements if you wish to express yourself more freely I don't miss the days of framesets and including the header, footer and menu over and over again
- rchaud 2y agoA CMS makes the backend inaccessible. Want to add inline styles to a page? You can't. Want to embed a script for some quick interactivity? You can't. Of course you could attempt to locate the theme files and edit them, and edit the configuration files to enqueue scripts but at that point you're no longer having fun. The only thing you can do is write paragraphs in templated portions of the page. And that's who a CMS is for: people who are doing a job, and have no curiosity about looking under the hood and messing around.
- carabiner 2y agoKids should be outside playing with other kids.
- sibartlett 2y agoThis really takes me back to high school when everyone was writing websites like this... it was such a fun and pure time. Well done Naya!
- ryanisnan 2y agoThat's awesome! I love that such a simple page taught her how to make a completely functional website. Links, images, styling, and even an external script inclusion. Way to go Naya.
- lazlee 2y ago200+ comments about a 7 years old website = :-) Great job, Naya.
- lazlee 2y ago500 comments now. I was 29 when I made my first webpage. Her's is better.
- madcow2011 2y agoAww, <3 I love this. Keep up the great work, naya!!
- redleggedfrog 2y agoPretty darn good - looking forward to updates!
- HaZeust 2y agoI often hear about the simplicity form factors of the internet in a bygone era, before my time, in the mid to late 90's. Now, from all the stories I've heard and the visuals I've seen, someone that's a third of my age now seems to be delivering that spirit of simplicity back :)
- zoklet-enjoyer 2y agoCute!
- apeace 2y agoThis is the best thing I've seen on the internet in a long time. I'm going to bookmark it and check back for more informative content. I hope you tell Naya how much HN is loving it!
- explosion-s 2y ago> no roblox studio, no nothin
- henvic 2y agoLovely! My first website was when I was 9 years old, and I used Netscape Composer to create it. My content was also centered in the screen :)
- dep_b 2y agoI showed my kid (also around that age) how you could have fun with PRINT statements in C64 BASIC. He really enjoyed it and just the idea alone that you could control the computer instead of it being a black box. Perhaps a website could be fun too. But HTML 3.2 was much more friendly to beginners than everything that is out there now.
- flymasterv 2y agoHTML 3.2 is still out there! Just use it.
- tqwhite 2y agoWhen I started using the web, this is what all pages looked like and tons and tons of people had personal ones just like this. It was so great. I used to love touring all the self expression. Not quite the first, but this is how mine looked in '98: https://web.archive.org/web/19981205195643/http://www.justkidding.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/19981205195643/http://www.justki...
- throwitaway1123 2y agoOne of my favorite aspects of the early web was the focus on customization. Your Myspace page was literally 'your space' and you were free to customize it with CSS as you pleased. There's a whole generation of developers and designers that started this way. You still see remnants of this philosophy in the contemporary web (e.g. moderators on Reddit can customize their subreddits), but that philosophy is nowhere near as ubiquitous as it was in the Geocities era.
- aloer 2y agoLinked in there you have https://web.archive.org/web/19981206221926/http://www.msystems.com/homeauto/ https://web.archive.org/web/19981206221926/http://www.msyste... which would be an amazing post on it’s own. I had no idea people were already doing smart home things 26 years ago!
- flymasterv 2y agoA solid 70% of pop up ads in 1999 were for X-10 systems.
- M4R5H4LL 2y agoWow, this is so cool! Your website is clear and easy to read. It's super easy to find everything, and it works really fast too. Awesome job, keep it up!
- l72 2y ago"computers are a very important form of technology. Without it no websites, no Roblox studio, and no nothin." Amen!
- andrewfurey2003 2y agoNo pop ups No cookies Loads quickly. Only thing is the cloudflare pages analytics js. Frontend masterpiece lol
- nyanpasu64 2y ago:( Cloudflare automatically adds client-side JS analytics in pages it serves, unless you opt out: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/how-to-remove-analytics-tracking-on-cloudflare-pages/643137 https://community.cloudflare.com/t/how-to-remove-analytics-t... Though uBlock Origin blocks the JS tracker already.
- err4nt 2y agoExcellent website! Thanks for sharing, I learned something: the scientific name of a cheetah. Tell your daughter to keep making things that she likes to make!
- brabel 2y ago> computers are a very important form of technology. Without it no websites, no Roblox studio, and no nothin. Don't you love the way children see things? So cute.
- nkg 2y agoI notice it did not go down despite the HN hug of death !
- 29athrowaway 2y agoI enjoyed the website. It just needed a marquee, blink, visit counter, guestbook, under construction disclaimer, some pixelated 256 color palette animated gif, and you would become one of us.
- taulien 2y agoI love, how the path for the computer page is "/unicorncopy". Already thinks like a real pro!
- bitwize 2y agoI love the Geocities-era Web 1.0 energy this has. Your daughter is avery creative person.
- jprd 2y agoThis is the way.
- fermigier 2y agoI like it. This fondly, yet somewhat bitterly, recalls memories of my 25-year-old self creating his first HTML page in 1995, or even my 10-year-old self writing his first BASIC program in 1980.
- Pavilion2095 2y agoThat's cool. I remember myself around that age. Before I learned about HTML, I used to draw web sites in MS Paint. And these both activities were so much fun.
- dxxvi 2y agoIf she has those concepts about html, she will learn more about html and then css very quickly with the help of AI.
- _wire_ 2y agoQ: When's the best time to take your kids to dinner? A: When the graduate from medical school! —Dave Barry
- filmgirlcw 2y agoI love this so much! Great work, Naya! Incidentally, I was creating an image for a slide for a talk a few weeks ago, showing off HTML circa 1996 and decided to do it in Windows 95 (which is what I used to write my first web pages when I was 12) and it was a lot harder than I thought it would be (mostly because the intricacies of what HTML versions were supported in the included browser versions of the Electron emulator I was using), to recall what tags did and didn't work. But I credit HTML with everything for me, as far as computer programming is concerned. Having a way to express markup in a text editor and see the results on a web page was life-changing. Love to see first graders doing this now!
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- dev1ycan 2y ago:3 so cute it made my day a bit happier thanks for posting
- karaterobot 2y ago> Tablets aren't very useful. Well to do stuff Computers can anyway. Naya gets it!
- appel 2y ago> computers are a very important form of technology. Without it no websites, no Roblox studio, and no nothin. Well put, Naya!
- oaktowner 2y agoI love this so much. From 1992-1996 I was in a band in the SF Bay Area. I played the congas, but really I think they just let me do that because I also took on the band's webpage. It was dozens and dozens of pages of hand-coded HTML, updated nearly daily, with lots of easter eggs, etc. I had programmed a ton (I was a C/C++ developer at the time), but never in HTML. I learned everything by "viewing source" (at the time, most of the web was hand-written HTML). We hosted it at The Well, which even then had a little bit of cachet in the community. One of my great regrets was that we didn't keep a copy of the site -- and we "retired" and took down the site early enough that the Wayback Machine doesn't have a copy.
- nashashmi 2y agostrange. still not indexed by google
- ms7892 2y agoBeautiful ♥
- jdthedisciple 2y agowhat the hell since when do emojis work on this site??
- gweinberg 2y agoI think they work anyplace that supports utf-8 I would be disappointed if any printable unicode character did not work
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- kmoser 2y agoWhat's her hourly rate?
- elijahbenizzy 2y agoThis is absolutely delightful. Perhaps my favorite line: "Without it no websites, no Roblox studio, and no nothin."
- mahmouds 2y agoI love it. Keep it simple, Naya.
- rietta 2y agoLove this! What a wonderful idea. I hope to encourage my daughters to do similarly as they learn about computers.
- kls0e 2y agoexcellent read. my favourite webpage now!
- verbalstoner 2y agoMore soul than 98% of the current internet out there
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- th3w3bmast3r 2y agoIt's amazing to see a 7 year old putting it all together. Incredible beautiful!
- waldrews 2y agoGreat speed scores, reasonable SEO and best-practices scores, a few accessibility-related nitpicks but none critical. So, better than most professionals. https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-naya-lol/tkn3le4d53 https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-naya-lol/tkn3le4d53
- assimpleaspossi 2y agoI wasn't going to go there but 9 errors, warnings and infos. https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https://naya.lol/ https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https://naya.lol/
- zelphirkalt 2y agoCompared to most websites, that is superb!
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- jdlyga 2y agoI miss when this was the internet. Just thousands of little sites like this.
- anon115 2y agoso fucking adorable
- wellsjohnston 2y agono Roblox Studio, no nothin.
- trekkie1024 2y agoIt's curious that clicking on the links doesn't take you to a /page.html but rather just /page. Is that due to Cloudflare routing?
- felixnm 2y agoGreat job!
- sharker8 2y agowhats the dns setup?
- 1oooqooq 2y agoin this day age, getting past the captcha, false positive bot detection, proving a us based mobile number, etc etc... is harder to get kids started than the actual coding.
- notresidenter 2y ago> Cats are about 2 feet that means six times there height would be about 12 feet. That would be a very terrifying cat Yes it would. There's something wonderful about the paths that a mind that hasn't been fully toned the way society wants it to explores. Well done.
- M4v3R 2y agoVery well said. A 7yo is probably closest to their true „themselves” they will ever be.
- SheepSlapper 2y agoHaha that bit cracked me up, all I could think was "yep, that'd be real scary!" This site rules :)
- calvinmorrison 2y ago> . The most common dog color is probably brown or black trust it more than gPT
- tomger 2y agoGood webpage
- mvkel 2y agoI did this exact thing with my daughters (7 and 6)! They have a little guestbook with a password so friends and family can leave them messages. Beats an expiring gmail address
- jdthedisciple 2y agoVery sweet, better than 99% of the internet already
- lacoolj 2y agoI don't have kids so it's hard to tell if this is the equivalent of web dev prodigy or finger painting on the fridge :\
- themadturk 2y agoI think it's just a kid being a kid. Kids are naturally curious and creative. There are plenty of stories right on this comment thread that kids doing similar things 20 or 30 years ago led to those kids growing up and becoming developers, so really I think it's an example of exploring, and it may lead to something much bigger.
- kameit00 2y agoLoved the cat's page :)
- cynicalsecurity 2y agoYour daughter also put spying trackers on the web-site?
- junglistguy 2y ago[dead]
- kreeWall 2y agoOBSESSED! She did SO good! I taught young girls to code (founder of nonprofit Girls Code Lincoln, based in Nebraska USA) for the past few years - I love this! A few resources that you may be interested in sharing with her, age appropriate for her: Youtube series that we did where our students interviewed women in STEM - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-32uv45Ln4VJGhVr_jr6Q1fCZscKkBGE https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-32uv45Ln4VJGhVr_jr6... Podcast series where we talked about historical women in STEM + a current woman in STEM - we recommended people listen to this in the car when their kids are there. https://girlscodelincoln.buzzsprout.com/ https://girlscodelincoln.buzzsprout.com/ My email if you need anything at all, or would like further resources for your daughter. aakriti@TheNonprofiting.Org / info@GirlsCodeLincoln.org TED talk that I did about HOW to get your daughter interested in STEM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guoLTuW8AX4&t=10s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guoLTuW8AX4&t=10s
- kreeWall 2y agoAdditionally, Pixar has a really good and robust coding lesson - called Pixar in a Box - https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/pixar https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/pixar Not sure if this is quite the right aged resource for her, but might be nice for you to have in your back pocket. Happy to help with pointing you to any resources you may need to keep her engaged!
- dr_kiszonka 2y agoThis is for very gifted 7 year olds; I bookmarked it : - ) Thanks! Do you have any unicorn-themed and free recommendations for girls that age?
- Kunsang 2y agocornify.com
- namuol 2y ago> Cats are about 2 feet that means six times there height would be about 12 feet. That would be a very terrifying cat. Thanks for sharing! This is exactly the sort of smile I needed today.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoVery nice. My daughter made something similar from HTML/CSS when she was 8 or 9, no tools, frameworks, just a text editor. (This was 15-16 years ago.) I think it's good not to be afraid to dive into the "bare metal" approach for kids who then gain a good understanding of the fundamentals even if later they end up using higher-level frameworks.
- efilife 2y agoGreat site! I wish I had started at her age > Cats are about 2 feet that means six times there height would be about 12 feet. That would be a very terrifying cat > That means that there warm blooded > there looking forward Hope you told her how to differentiate between there and their though :-)
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- themadturk 2y agoAnd "they're." But it's OK, that will come.
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- lt_snuffles 2y agogot 93 on performance, 89 on best practices, 73 on SEO on lighthouse :)
- efilife 2y agoDon't tell me she also included Cloudflare analytics on her site?
- different_base 2y agoWhy on earth Cloudflare scripts are running on a webpage made by a little girl? We fucked up bad. Real bad. As software engineers, we have produced nothing but garbage in the last two decades.
- efilife 2y agoI doubt that we fucked up. I didn't, you probably didn't too. It's on the megacorp
- h2o_lover 2y agoGreat job, Naya! From one lady programmer to another :)
- big_paps 2y agoMy son used clay to make me an ashtrayer..
- dankwizard 2y agoat 7 years old i was running a 100000 user phpbb board fully customised
- subroutine 2y agoI love this. Simple. Informative. Fun.
- newbalance 2y agoUnder 100KB :)
- byteknight 2y agoYour daughter is awesome! I love this!!!
- CM30 2y agoThis brings me back to the olden days of Geocities and other free hosting services, when sites like this were the norm for many people. It's a fun trip down memory lane for sure, and the fact this looks identical to many of those sites provides great evidence for how accessible and easy to learn HTML was in those days... Either way, nice job, especially for a 7-year old learning web development!
- devcil 2y agoThank you for sharing this. Actually, your daughter inspired me to make a web site today. I even took some design tips from her. I was hoping to make programming fun for me and I guess not overthinking and keeping it simple is a good start.
- socketcluster 2y agoThis is why I've been hesitating to support a full drag and drop UI experience for https://www.saasufy.com/ https://www.saasufy.com/ - HTML is not that hard. A 7 year old child can do it. It's good for the brain. An adult should be able to become proficient at HTML within minutes, hours at most.
- Aeolun 2y ago> computers are a very important form of technology. Without it no websites, no Roblox studio, and no nothin. My son would agree.
- grvbck 2y ago> Tablets aren't very useful. Well to do stuff Computers can anyway. Naya just perfectly summarized 80 % of the MacRumors forum in two sentences.
- quux 2y agoLooks great in Ladybird! ;)
- advael 2y agoThe pages load responsively, there are no apparent bugs in the code, the organization is coherent and sensical, and the writing is concise and conveys both information and the unique voice and personality of the author This is a better-made website than like 95% of the internet, generously I like the cut of your kid's jib. Excellent work
- renegade-otter 2y agoI am not sure this site is web scale. The cats page probably needs its own microservice, backed by Kafka and DynamoDB. I mean, it's simple.
- mdale 2y agoMy son web site: https://play-vista.com https://play-vista.com its runing on a raspberry pi. Written with help from ChatGPT/copilot ;)
- mzmzmzm 2y agoI remember doing this at about the same age in the 90s using Notepad.exe in tandem with Netscape Navigator to opine on paper airplanes. Maybe it's just childhood nostalgia, but that kind of web felt way more free than today's social platforms, react apps, and SEO.
- tonetegeatinst 2y agoIts so simple, I actually love it. None of the massive complex UI mess that modern sites use....it's like looking back on the early web. Wish I was making stuff this cool when I was 7. I was just into Lego's and rollercoaster knex.
- notepad0x90 2y agoYou know, I wanted to troll a bit by critiquing a 7 year old but I'm genuinely impressed. I love sites like this, her age aside that is. it is simple html and I can discover the desired information without any hassle. 10/10 from me boss! Tell Naya to never forget the simplicity of her young mind.
- abrkn 2y agoexcellent website!
- perilunar 2y agoLaughed at this: "Without computers used have to use tablets. Tablets aren't very useful." So true!
- shsbdncudx 2y agoMy son built his first interpreter in Haskell when he was 18months old
- hchak 2y agoThis is very warming :)
- vismit2000 2y agoI wonder when she grows up and starts spending all day on HN like us, she would be really glad to see this post and the appreciative comments here :)
- atlas_hugged 2y agoThank you so much for sharing. This made my day. It’s so wholesome, it makes me want to cry happy tears.
- thatgerhard 2y agoThis fondly reminds me of a simpler time on the Internet :)
- robertwt7 2y agoI hope she's having fun!! reminds me of the old times when I first typed some html code and see results. The feelings of achievement was so good!
- fyenneyenn 2y agoI can offer her a job! give me her numberrrrr
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- blobbers 2y agoThe way the www used to be and should be. A true wild west! Nice job daughter!!!
- 14 2y agoMy buddy who does not have kids is continually impressed by my youngest son and how fast he can pick up new skills. Just yesterday my buddy saw a piece of rope and he works building cell phone towers so does a lot of knots with having to climb and haul gear up. He tells my son let me show you a bowline. My son just turned 8. So he showed him once and my son was able do it. I always say let kids try as many things as you can their brain is so capable and so fast to learn things that as an adult take me way longer to do.
- mro_name 2y agoWonderful! Lucky she, has a space to put it unmonetarized and under her (parents) agency and responsibility. I host a youth computer club and help at holiday camps and see this a lot. Some elementary school kids (girls mostly) love to write. All you need is to leave all the distracting tech aside (No tools! No frameworks! No cms/ssg! No autocomplete) and have a space without advertising or TOS where the results can be show to friends & family. Some also love to draw with https://twilightedge.com/mac/pikopixel/ https://twilightedge.com/mac/pikopixel/ on our raspis.
- rubi1945 2y agowholesome moment
- hn666 2y agoNice website, Naya!
- oneeyedpigeon 2y agoAbsolute props on the cleanliness of that source!
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- throwaway38375 2y agoWell done to your daughter! She is clearly a smart one. I wish her the very best for her future career (possibly) in computers. :)
- DoomSlayer 2y agoThis is how the internet should be used! Awesome stuff
- kruhft 2y agoAll it needs is an "Under Construction" GIF.
- kruhft 2y agoAnd it should be hosted on neocities. That's probably not so hard that a 7 year old girl could do it.
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- butler14 2y agoThank you for sharing. It reminds me of a similar website I made with my dad at similar age, in the mid 90s. I hope she enjoyed it, and continues to enjoy it. I also hope to do similar with my children when they’re at at that age.
- LightBug1 2y agoPure, unADULTerated, HTML ...
- Tyrus_Rechs 2y agoDon't know what I was expecting but everything I read was enjoyable lol well done!
- brainlessdev 2y agoOh my, I did almost exactly the same when I was 8, but mine was about dinosaurs :)
- drakonka 2y agoThis is adorable and reminds me of my first website :D Great job!
- kidsil 2y agoVery cool, great work! If you don't mind sharing, how is this hosted?
- 0xFEE1DEAD 2y agoThis is adorable. Writing HTML might be straightforward for us, but for a 7yo it's a significant cognitive achievement. It wasn't long ago that she learned to read. Tell her a random internet guy is proud of her. Maybe this marks the beginning of her journey in tech - it certainly was for me. I started writing HTML at 13 and soon realized that a guestbook involves more than just a <form> tag. That led me to learn PHP. That was 20 years ago and though I am now primarily a backend developer my passion for learning and working in tech remains undiminished. My son is now 2 1/2, and I hope he too will develop an interest in these things in the coming years.
- arrty88 2y agoI definitely learned some cat facts. Reminds me of my first GeoCities site.
- Hexigonz 2y agoHell yeah, this is awesome
- ko_pivot 2y ago> computers are a very important form of technology. Without it no websites, no Roblox studio, and no nothin. Without computers used have to use tablets. Tablets aren't very useful. Well to do stuff Computers can anyway. Amen.
- averageRoyalty 2y ago> Tablets are a form of technology that is very useful. I'M SO CONFUSED. What is even real?
- alickz 2y agogood job naya keep at it
- asphyxiac 2y agoThis is so cute. Coincidentally, my daughter has the same name as your domain, and I myself was making websites at exactly that age (but mine were about cartoon characters). Love to see this.
- palla89 2y agoExcellent loading times, amazing contents, 10/10 would hire <3
- lizardking 2y agoBravo, young one! And to the parent(s) as well for encouraging her in her endeavor.
- d4nc00per 2y agoI enjoyed browsing this website. Well done!
- beretguy 2y agoYou found a loophole on how to earn a lot of points! Now I’m gonna do the same. I just need to find a woman, have a daughter, wait until she’s 7, have her make a website and post about it. Here we go!..
- thecupisblue 2y agoThank your daughter for this piece of insight into a child's mind! Quite inspiring!
- mbonnet 2y agoI love that https://naya.lol/unicorn https://naya.lol/unicorn is the cats page. This is wonderful. Sharing this in the company Slack like a boomer.
- vinberdon 2y agoTakes me back to the days when I was 9 years old making websites on angelfire, geocities, etc.
- arendtio 2y agoI hope the tracking script is automatically inserted. Teaching kids about tracking before teaching them what a head tag is should be considered an eternal sin ;-)
- floppiplopp 2y agoI'm building webpages since 1994, when I was 14 years old. Today, I'm a professional front-end dev of 20 years experience. I've grown bitter and resentful of all the modern garbage I have to deal with that has been invented by so called "experts". I officially request that instead all the web pages must now be designed by 7 year old girls who like animals.