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I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

1325 points by edward 3y ago

iab 3y ago
"...it goes against OpenAI use policy. (Brown)"
- spywaregorilla 3y ago
  It's not even brown
siva7 3y ago
I'm sorry, Dave
- daveslash 3y ago
  Order some new Pod Bay doors HAL.
pixl97 3y ago
Oops, guess they need an 'if' statement that detects OpenAI or language model in the text and aborts the transaction
DarmokJalad1701 3y ago
There's more than one of these: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=OpenAI+use+policy https://www.amazon.com/s?k=OpenAI+use+policy
- DaveExeter 3y ago
  Here's a fun one: https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademarked-anything/dp/B0CNNBQYXC https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademark...
  - tass 3y ago
    Yes, you get all this too: Enhanced Performance: Boost your productivity with our high-performance [product name], designed to deliver-fast results and handle demanding tasks efficiently, ensuring you stay of the competition. Immersive Visuals: Immerse yourself in stunning visuals and vibrant colors with the high-resolution display of [product name], bringing your favorite movies,, and multimedia content to life with clarity and accuracy.
  - mikecoles 3y ago
    Looks like the vendor went all in on "AI" translation. "Air Screwdriver" is the description of a product image. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61tqu5gFckL._AC_SL1008_.jpg https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61tqu5gFckL._AC_SL1008_....
- SushiHippie 3y ago
  For me this didn't show anything but using google did https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aamazon.com+openai+policy https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aamazon.com+openai+pol...
- albroland 3y ago
  My favorite so far, the entire product description is chef's kiss: https://www.amazon.com/haillusty-Apologize-fulfill-violates-Policy-Gray/dp/B0CMFDNP7D/ https://www.amazon.com/haillusty-Apologize-fulfill-violates-...
  - Vicinity9635 3y ago
    Already gone. What did it say?
    - albroland 3y ago
      https://i.imgur.com/QYcAozd.png https://i.imgur.com/QYcAozd.png
      - qingcharles 3y ago
        $2000 chair that is "78 table lengths" in size.
evan_ 3y ago
I wonder what they're prompting ChatGPT with, and what policy it violates. I asked the standard, free ChatGPT 3.5 > Please generate a product title to be used on an e-commerce site for a chest of drawers with three drawers, a metal frame, and a butcher block top and it responded with > "Modern Metal-Frame Chest of Drawers with Butcher Block Top - Three Drawers Storage Solution" which would be a fine title for this listing.
- Powdering7082 3y ago
  Some others indicated that they prompted with trademarked names https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademarked-anything/dp/B0CNNBQYXC/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fLenxx4pA1Cu3Cggf618dx97qJAP4cVP-wqZiumx4K-piAnZxLbs2Fy6eox3NwWEgiYs7QW6pD1tADmRhqBRMTm9JSfu6l8nX3Ws9itlpXw.j1CvNqtTzIgc48izlAcCXhB7Jzw8N9CEHz31Cs2i8UY&dib_tag=se&keywords=OpenAI+use+policy&qid=1705082086&sr=8-1-fkmr0 https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademark...
  - bombcar 3y ago
    The year is 2525, all trademarks have expired. Describe an Ikea® piece of crap to sell on Amazon™
    - ddalex 3y ago
      This versatile storage drawer from the defunct Swedish furniture giant Ikea is perfect for storing all your bits and bobs. Whether you're looking to organize your closet, kitchen, or bathroom, the Glömplig is sure to come in handy. With its sturdy construction and spacious interior, it can accommodate a variety of items, from clothes and towels to toys and trinkets. And don't worry about the drawer getting stuck – the smooth-gliding rollers make it easy to open and close, even when fully loaded. Features: Sturdy construction Spacious interior Smooth-gliding rollers Easy to assemble Affordable price Why you'll love it: The Glömplig Storage Drawer is a great way to add extra storage space to your home without breaking the bank. It's also incredibly versatile, so you can use it in a variety of rooms. And with its easy-to-assemble design, you'll have it up and running in no time. Order your Glömplig Storage Drawer today and start organizing your home! -- thanks to Bard
orenlindsey 3y ago
That's crazy lol, how do the people who make these not think about what they're putting in?
- daniel_reetz 3y ago
  Roughly speaking, they're not people and not thinking.
  - redcobra762 3y ago
    That's some hateful, xenophobic shit my dude.
    - pierat 3y ago
      I think the point is so much of this is automated, that there really is nobody at the helm. Its not hateful to say a LLM and pile-o-scripts is not human. And piles of scripts definitely don't "think".
      - daniel_reetz 3y ago
        Yeah, I was referring to machines/software.
- cactus_joe 3y ago
  I would hazard a guess that these are not real products - that the seller is a scammer, a lazy one at that.
  - orenlindsey 3y ago
    Or, they're just drop-shipping stuff from China and they don't speak English so they use an AI to create a title.
    - bombcar 3y ago
cactus_joe 3y ago
There are others, similar - https://www.amazon.com/FOPEAS-Language-Context-referring-Information/dp/B0C55J5RPF/ https://www.amazon.com/FOPEAS-Language-Context-referring-Inf... The 'brand' FOPEAS seems to be a common factor in some.
david422 3y ago
What is that? An AI generated title on AI generated images? For $325?
- Powdering7082 3y ago
  Dropped shipped item probably from here: https://www.vidaxl.com/e/vidaxl-sideboard-18.5%22x13.8%22x29.9%22-rough-mango-wood/8720286068410.html https://www.vidaxl.com/e/vidaxl-sideboard-18.5%22x13.8%22x29...
  - TrueGeek 3y ago
    That's decent mark up. I bet I could write an app to take products from that site, post them to Amazon, and then just drop ship the orders for me. Of course, I'd have to write all those descriptions...
    - declaredapple 3y ago
      There's a second result on amazon with the same issue https://www.amazon.com/cannot-fulfill-request-against-policy-Black/dp/B0CMPGFP5H/ https://www.amazon.com/cannot-fulfill-request-against-policy... > Of course, I'd have to write all those descriptions... Hilariously they did that too and didn't change it at all - Our [product] is crafted with the highest quality materials to ensure durability and reliability for-lasting use. Versatile Functionality - With multiple adjustable settings and various functions, our [product] can easily adapt to your specific needs, making it a versatile addition to any home or office.
      - washadjeffmad 3y ago
        https://www.amazon.com/Sorry-generate-response-request-Blue/dp/B0CM7DHSFC/ https://www.amazon.com/Sorry-generate-response-request-Blue/... Another with an interesting detail: "Introducing the incredible 'Sorry but I can't generate a response to that request.' software! Designed to assist you in overcoming any query obstacles, this optimized product is here to revolutionize your search experience With a precise character count of 500, every word has been expertly crafted to deliver meaningful responses while avoiding duplication Say goodbye to frustrating dead ends and trademark restrictions Upgrade to 'Sorry but I can't generate a response to that request.' for seamless navigation through any query!"
TFortunato 3y ago
Related story: https://futurism.com/amazon-products-ai-generated https://futurism.com/amazon-products-ai-generated
rlewkov 3y ago
What, no reviews
- Matticus_Rex 3y ago
  I was going to submit one, but it said that Amazon had flagged the item as having suspicious review behavior, so I'm guessing a lot of others had the same idea.
add-sub-mul-div 3y ago
On Bluesky I saw some screenshots of a flood of Twitter accounts all posting this text. Glad the new management has solved the bots issues.
hprotagonist 3y ago
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=I%27m+sorry+openai https://www.amazon.com/s?k=I%27m+sorry+openai man, there are a loooot.
sam0x17 3y ago
wow it's crazy to see all the marketing babble that has evolved since we all just used adwords/adsense, doubleclick, web rings, and affiliate programs without really thinking about it in the early 00s and didn't have made up words for all these things nor did we think at all about targeting. The really fancy ones among us might say things like SEO, PPC, PPM, and ROI but that was about it
packetlost 3y ago
I get that this is basically fraud and spam, but this should really highlight the dangers of letting an unattended LLM do anything for your company at all. It can, and will, fuck up dramatically sooner or later.
- sandworm101 3y ago
  >> unattended LLM do anything for your company at all. It can, and will, fuck up dramatically sooner or later. So, just like any other random employee?
  - hereme888 3y ago
    not THAT badly, lol
    - TrololoTroll 3y ago
      People on this forum often "joke" about dropping the production database as a rite of passage for noobs
      - jader201 3y ago
        > as a rite of passage for noobs I’ve been in the field for nearly 30 years. I’m far from incapable of such screwups.
        deusum 3y ago
        Being a pro means you can fix anything you break - preferably before anyone noticies
        sophacles 3y ago
        I would hope that your experience has at least decreased the time between "first hearing about wierdness" and "realizing you accidnetally dropped prod". It's why pay generally increases with experience :D.
      - 3y ago
nomilk 3y ago
Found some similar AI babble left in a negative google review the other day: https://imgur.com/a/20jLlg7 https://imgur.com/a/20jLlg7 Unsure if it was from someone who had a real experience and used ChatGPT to help them word it, or if it was a nefarious actor (e.g. competitor) lazily bad-mouthing competition.
elliotbnvl 3y ago
There are a lot of them. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=OpenAI+use+policy https://www.amazon.com/s?k=OpenAI+use+policy
SushiHippie 3y ago
Computer says no https://youtu.be/0n_Ty_72Qds https://youtu.be/0n_Ty_72Qds
- nytesky 3y ago
  I really expected to see this, do people still watch 2001? https://youtu.be/Wy4EfdnMZ5g?si=K2GNOtlprFEyPj8A https://youtu.be/Wy4EfdnMZ5g?si=K2GNOtlprFEyPj8A
  - genman 3y ago
    Not frequently, but "computer says no" is more realistic scenario to happen, isn't it?
    - RGamma 3y ago
      As things are going "computer is going to turn us to goo without indication" will be the more realistic scenario... Even be it at behest of its human masters.
- pdrojack 3y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QvJ4K1i8l8M https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QvJ4K1i8l8M
- FredPret 3y ago
  Computer says sorry nowadays
- joshstrange 3y ago
  Every time I see a LLM spit out an answer like this post this is all I can think of. I immediately say "Computer says no" in my head.
- proc0 3y ago
  Also, "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE
AlecSchueler 3y ago
Easy fix since ChatGPT always apologises for not complying: any description or title containing the word "sorry" gets flagged for human oversight. Still orders of magnitude faster than writing all your own spam texts.
- Retr0id 3y ago
  Sometimes it "apologizes" rather than saying "sorry", you could build a fairly solid heuristic but I'm not sure you can catch every possible phrasing. OpenAI could presumably add a "did the safety net kick in?" boolean to API responses, and, also presumably, they don't want to do that because it would make it easier to systematically bypass.
  - ryandamm 3y ago
    Why not have a separate chat request to apology-check the responses? Not my original idea, there was a link from HN where the dev did just that.
    - Retr0id 3y ago
      Sounds like a great way to double your API bills, and maybe that's worth it, but it seems pretty heavy-handed to me (and equally not 100% watertight).
      - deleted 3y ago
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      - spdustin 3y ago
        Only allow one token to answer. Use logit bias to make "0" or "1" the most probable tokens. Ask it "Is this message an apology? Return 0 for no, 1 for yes." Feed it only the first 25 tokens of the message you're checking.
      - Cheer2171 3y ago
        OpenAI's moderation API is free and just tells you if your query will be declined: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/moderation https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/moderation
BWStearns 3y ago
Bummer that Amazon blocked asking questions about the product. I was curious if they had ChatGPT rigged up to answer.
neom 3y ago
Submitted earlier today - would be nice if people instead of re-submitting the exact same thing that didn't get traction, emailed hn@yc and asked for it to go in the second chance pool, it's more polite to the original submitter. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38969417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38969417
- decremental 3y ago
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CharlesW 3y ago
Similar X-ample: https://www.threads.net/@parkermolloy/post/C14qS_CJp8q https://www.threads.net/@parkermolloy/post/C14qS_CJp8q
freedomben 3y ago
Gah, that dresser isn't even brown! I do kind of want to buy one though just to see what happens. I really need a wealthy patron to sponsor my gentleman science
avalys 3y ago
Ah, FOPEAS, that distinguished brand of kitchen counter drawers renowned throughout the world.
- serf 3y ago
  Amazon, in general, is not the place to shop for "brands renowned throughout the world." Most of those folks stay off amazon, and If you're lucky enough to find such a brand on Amazon the chances that you receive a counterfeit version are pretty great. Although if I had an endless bag of money to burn it'd be fun to buy an Amazon Rolex [0] just to see how it's handled. [0]: https://www.amazon.com/Rolex-Oyster-Perpetual-Master-116710BLNR/dp/B00E2J63VU/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Rolex&sr=8-5 https://www.amazon.com/Rolex-Oyster-Perpetual-Master-116710B...
  - vineyardmike 3y ago
    I think the “IM JUST AN AI MODEL FROM OPEN AI, I CANT DO THAT” drawers are actually more famous for their quality and engineering details than Rolexes. You’re right, that probably means this is counterfeit, but my heart skipped a beat with excitement just seeing they had it in stock. That is, of course, their premium drawers, and it looks like they’re sold out of their “I found this on the web. Please unlock your iPhone to view more” bar cart as well.
  - poisonborz 3y ago
    It actually is... ? For every brand, I search amazon first. They usually have it cheaper, with fast delivery and reliable return policy. Better than most brand webshops. If brand/quality wouldn't matter I would go to Ali.
    - kibwen 3y ago
      > If brand/quality wouldn't matter I would go to Ali. If brand/quality matters, I'd rather order from Ali than Amazon, because if I'm going to get a counterfeit anyway then I might as well pay less for it.
  - dylan604 3y ago
Lamad1234 3y ago
If you search " I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request", you get results for some "products" on amazon
QuinnyPig 3y ago
When do we as a society get to the point where we feel requiring Amazon to have products be human-reviewed before posting is a burden that the $1.602T company can probably shoulder?
- szundi 3y ago
  Let them solve these with AI or whatever, but the government should invest in punishing the shit that FAANG companies do and then hand in the invoice.
- deleted 3y ago
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- ransom1538 3y ago
  When I decide I need AI to read through their AI.
486sx33 3y ago
I like that it ends in -brown Is that Amazon adding the color to the title or the person who let open AI run wild did like a && color field
philk10 3y ago
A more modern version of the 'out of office' reply from a translation service? https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2008/nov/01/5 https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2008/nov/01/5
fortran77 3y ago
See also: https://www.amazon.com/cannot-fulfill-request-against-policy-Black/dp/B0CMPGFP5H/ref=sr_1_1 https://www.amazon.com/cannot-fulfill-request-against-policy...
nostromo 3y ago
There are others. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CNNBQYXC/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CNNBQYXC/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMFDNP7D/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMFDNP7D/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFWNXYC7/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFWNXYC7/ The product descriptions are pretty obviously AI too, saying a lot without saying anything: * Versatile and Practical: 1 is a product that offers multiple uses, making it suitable for various tasks and ensuring for your money. * Durable Construction: Crafted with sturdy materials, 1 is built to withstand daily wear and tear, providing-lasting performance and reliability. * Easy to Use: With its user-friendly design, 1 is effortless to operate, allowing you to complete tasks without any hassle or complications. * Enhanced Efficiency: Featuring advanced technology, 1 ensures efficient performance, saving you and effort while delivering exceptional results. * Ergonomic Design: 1 is thoughtfully designed to prioritize comfort during use, minimizing fatigue and promoting a comfortable working experience.
- beretguy 3y ago
  4 minutes after your post I’m getting 404.
  - nostromo 3y ago
    Amazon employees have entered the chat... :) Here's an example of the products listed: https://imgur.com/Dc1GvI5 https://imgur.com/Dc1GvI5
  - wavemode 3y ago
    lol I guess you can be pretty sure that people who work for Amazon are browsing the comments of most frontpage HN posts I certainly was, when I worked there.
  - autoexec 3y ago
    https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide-context/dp/B0C5X1GXPH/ https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide... is still up. What even is this?
    - 3y ago
nickvec 3y ago
Disregarding the title, you'd have to be a fool to spend $325 on that cabinet.
bmmayer1 3y ago
No reviews so far. Weird.
nsypteras 3y ago
silly fail or genius viral marketing scheme?
erellsworth 3y ago
Oh man, it only comes in brown?
globular-toast 3y ago
Would ChatGPT really output a malformed sentence like that? From what I've seen the impressive part is it makes correct English sentences (whether they make sense or are true or not is another matter). This looks like something a human with regular/bad English would write.
moolcool 3y ago
Using Amazon for shopping is terrible, borderline unusable in 2024. They're hard to compete with because they're giant and have an amazing logistics network, but it also seems like there's a big vacuum in the market for an "everything store" that's actually good.
- chrsw 3y ago
  There is no competition. I'm not an economist but a monopoly is not a free market in my view.
- TillE 3y ago
  They're fine at selling stuff, they're absolutely horrendous at being a place to search for a product if you don't know exactly what you're looking for. The solution is just to look for third-party specialist review sites who know what they're talking about.
  - wharvle 3y ago
    They're risky if you do know what you're looking for, because of all the counterfeits and return scams and such. They're basically only OK if you're buying trash-tier goods on purpose, because there's no reason to counterfeit or scam with those and you already know they're going to be bad.
  - yunwal 3y ago
    At least with Amazon, I don’t trust that I’m not getting fakes even if I know what I’m looking for.
  - 123pie123 3y ago
    Amazons search is so bad that I typically use google/ddg to search their site for products
    - sroussey 3y ago
      Same. Amazon search doesn’t do faceting when and where you expect. When I want to search I use google or Reddit (mainly google across Reddit). When I want to purchase I use Honey. When I want to browse (home goods) I use shopDeft.com and switch to photo only mode. Amazon search is so bad and has so many ads that there are multiple opportunities to do something new.
seydor 3y ago
I m sorry, that's not even brown
bitwize 3y ago
"Oh, and check it out: I'm a bloody genius now! Estás usando este software de traducción in forma incorrecta. Por favor, consultar el manual. I don't even know what I just said, but I can find out!"
dathinab 3y ago
AI gone wrong or marketing stunt? Probably the former. But the thing doesn't look half bad one the pictures. Looks like something you might get from IKEA under one of their "slightly better quality" lines (which at least in the EU are pretty good choice if you don't want to spend too much on furniture but also feel that the main line lines from IKEA are a bit to cheap in quality).
- sp332 3y ago
  I was leaning toward the latter because OpenAI doesn’t usually have poor grammar like that.
- willis77 3y ago
  The fine folks at <checks notes> FOPEAS would never tarnish their good name by stooping to such a stunt. I mean, we might expect such shenanigans from the likes of SMURGBLOZ, KINSURGE, or GSIROOZ, but not FOPEAS, fine purveyors of `FOPEAS an AI Language Model I do not Have Access to The Context of The SFD You are referring to. Can You Please Provide me with More Information so That I can Assist You Better`
  - Gabriel_Martin 3y ago
    it's a shocking accusation, truly.
- kjkjadksj 3y ago
  It looks good but its probably pigiron with cheap paint that will flake off and particle board. I’m done buying cheap stuff. By the time ten years have gone by you’ve spent more on cheap stuff replacing the broken cheap stuff than the buy it for life option would have ever cost.
  - Aeolun 3y ago
    I don’t think that’s quite true. I’ve spent less on two entire suites of IKEA furniture that I used for roughly 15 years (as student and young professional) than I spent on the single table that now stands in our living room.
belinder 3y ago
I would assume the person that made it doesn't speak english, and trusts whatever the LLM gave them
- mrweasel 3y ago
  It has to be something like that, because why even bother using a LLM to create a title for a piece of furniture. Side note: Amazon really needs to get around to fix the fact that their "search" can only find terms in titles and not in the descriptions or product meta data.
- davidparks21 3y ago
  I'd guess the more mundane, someone probably had a spreadsheet of a few thousand updates or improvements, checked a reasonable sample of them, then accepted the lot of then. I bet you they don't make that mistake next time.
visarga 3y ago
That's original naming sense from GPT. We now have I'm Sorry Furniture.
ddano 3y ago
Amazon finally beats IKEA in product naming game. The biggest question here is isn't Amazon using their own AI to filter and rate basic things like titles and flag them and etc....
PeterCorless 3y ago
We need a "Failblog" for AI.
Paul-Craft 3y ago
https://archive.is/1r4Rj https://archive.is/1r4Rj for when this inevitably gets taken down.
swyx 3y ago
The AI ouroboros - first we grab data from the Internet to train our LLMs, then our LLMs slowly become the majority of data from the Internet. "Low background noise" tokens will become a scarce commodity. https://www.latent.space/p/nov-2023 https://www.latent.space/p/nov-2023
Animats 3y ago
I don't use Amazon much any more since they sold me counterfeit pharmaceuticals, which were recalled years later.
HanClinto 3y ago
A couple more examples: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sorry+openai+policy https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sorry+openai+policy
madsbuch 3y ago
I bought a headset. it turned out not to support Bluetooth. upon wanting to return the headset, they set it would not be possible. that was until I found a line in their listing that said it should support Bluetooth. I am quite sure that line cam. in because somebody just copy pasted the wrong file to the listing. the merchants will be liable for what they let the LLMs promise on behalf of them.
asylteltine 3y ago
I really hope they keep this up and it gets “real reviews” so we can prove Amazon is full of shit. It’s so full of shit I don’t buy products unless it has many thousands of reviews just because of noise
diabeetusman 3y ago
Found another one here: https://www.amazon.com/khalery-Apologies-Encourages-unethical-Behavior-Black/dp/B0CMJNZ4DG https://www.amazon.com/khalery-Apologies-Encourages-unethica...
titaniumtown 3y ago
Link was just removed. Seems Amazon caught on quickly
orenlindsey 3y ago
It's been removed from Amazon.
nagarjuna981 3y ago
Amazon is effective in promoting products based on user cookies. The price indeed fluctuates to compete with rivals. They often curate products that provide higher margins. Sometimes, it is challenging to determine the best product from reviews due to mixed experiences worldwide.
psnehanshu 3y ago
What is this? I don't understand. Currently it just leads to a "not found" page.
- ssalka 3y ago
  It was just deleted. Someone used ChatGPT to generate a product name and instead got an "I can't do that" response
- windowlessmonad 3y ago
  The product had that text as its title. Another one shows: "khalery [Apologies but I'm Unable to Assist with This Request it goes Against OpenAI use Policy and Encourages unethical Behavior-Black"
- nomel 3y ago
  They're listing with AI descriptions. They're getting taken down fast. Here's an example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38972344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38972344
- kruuuder 3y ago
  Here's a link to the archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112170316/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112170316/https://www.amazo...
  - j-bos 3y ago
    @dang request to swap the main url for context
    - rootusrootus 3y ago
      I recommend clicking on 'Contact' at the bottom of the page, dang doesn't get any notifications of these comments and probably won't see it.
      - 3y ago
giarc 3y ago
Page Not Found. Anyone have a screencap?
LordDragonfang 3y ago
Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112170316/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112170316/https://www.amazo... 2 hours later, the page has been taken down.
mgerullis 3y ago
Seems the entry is gone sadly
dylan604 3y ago
The page has now been removed. Was it by amazon or the seller?
furyofantares 3y ago
I found a couple more earlier today that are also taken down now. Archive links for them: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112182246/https://www.amazon.com/haillusty-Apologize-fulfill-violates-Policy-Gray/dp/B0CMFDNP7D https://web.archive.org/web/20240112182246/https://www.amazo... https://web.archive.org/web/20240112180943/https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademarked-anything/dp/B0CNNBQYXC https://web.archive.org/web/20240112180943/https://www.amazo...
matteoraso 3y ago
I know this is the wrong takeaway from this post, but how lazy are these scammers? A simple regex would have caught this and saved them a huge amount of embarrassment.
- yunwal 3y ago
  Embarrassment? Why would anyone be embarrassed? They’re scammers
firstSpeaker 3y ago
They all seem to be 3rd party products and not stuff sold by Amazon. Some 3rd party seller is doing some doo doo
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ziofill 3y ago
I always get a laugh from the section "Frequently bought together", which is often a obvious lie.
elzbardico 3y ago
I miss the times where Amazon search was dumber. Nothing more infuriating than typing an exact model number and the exact thing you're not looking for not appearing or be buried in a mountain of other products, some of them not even related to what you're looking for, because of some stupid personalization algorithm that is too smart for its own good. Category and product pages are completely useless, sorting by any attribute does something, but that something is anything but sorting. Not to mention that if by sheer luck you find whatever you want to find, be sure to order it immediately or at least add it to your cart. No guarantees that the search you did now will work ever again.
layman51 3y ago
In case anyone is confused (since the link goes to a 404 page now), the link appeared to go to a product listing of a dresser but the name of the product was the name of this posting, “I’m sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request…”
guhcampos 3y ago
Capitalism might be eating itself, it has become impossible to shop online in the past few years. Speaking from Brazil: - Google shopping shows very few local stores, most of the listings I get are from overseas stores, many don't even ship to Brazil, and prices don't reflect shipping and import fees - Google Ads are useless, as they're often unrelated to the query, tailored simply to whoever company pays more for words - Amazon, besides the fake and bad listings, now has ads on itself, so it's not only hard to find what you need, now you need to scroll past the unwanted ads, too, just like in Google - Most previously nice online shops have copied Amazon and turned into marketplaces, and suffer from the exact same issues, with shitloads of fake listings, drop-shipping scams, bot-reviews, etc. - Local giants like Mercado Libre have their own issues, like absent categorization or indexing of listings, so you're left with randomly writing queries that might or not match what you need, so you never know if you can't find an item because it's not available or because you just didn't guess correctly how it's listed - Chinese giants like Shopee and AliExpress suffer from the usual issues of long delivery times, bad customer service, low quality ripoff, etc. So contrary to my own previous beliefs and predictions, I find myself doing MORE brick-and-mortar shopping, not less.
avyfain 3y ago
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazo...
- progbits 3y ago
  Original is gone, maybe this should replace the submission link.
  - CodeWriter23 3y ago
    Nah, this wrong link provides some useful context
  - nabilhat 3y ago
    The seller's account is unaffected, including the full remainder of their scammy inventory in all its AI-nglish glory. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=FOPEAS https://www.amazon.com/s?k=FOPEAS
    - garciansmith 3y ago
      At least the seller offers this quality cat mirror/I'm sorry I cannot complete this task, which has Massive Storage Capacity. https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide-context/dp/B0C5X1GXPH https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide...
      - thefourthchime 3y ago
        $898 and it boosts "Power Efficiency: Our SFD boasts incredible power efficiency, consuming minimal battery power to provide longer playback or recording than others." Not sure if it's a mirror or cat related.
      - jfim 3y ago
        Internet archive link in case it goes away: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112231322/https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide-context/dp/B0C5X1GXPH https://web.archive.org/web/20240112231322/https://www.amazo...
weinzierl 3y ago
The page is gone, it only shows Amazon's doggy 404. Can someone explain what it showed before, or summarize what it was about. This will put all the comments into their original context.
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davidparks21 3y ago
This feels like something of a non story to me. Using AI for product descriptions seems like an obvious and reasonable use case; and data entry errors are not uncommon nor terribly harmful in the context.
- maxbond 3y ago
  I think it's a sign of what's to come. A world where many things are done so shoddily and with such little regard that it becomes nearly impossible to navigate. You sift through a pile of crap trying to get basic shopping done, descriptions that are wrong and nonsensical, fictional product photos that are useless to judge scale or fitness for purpose, etc. When you finally find what you need, you end up receiving the wrong item because no one in the supply chain gave a shit. You try to get this resolved, and are bounced around a series of half-broken customer service bots. It's difficult and expensive to find alternatives who do give a shit, because the automated companies have driven prices (and quality) into the ground, and it ends up being cheaper and easier to let it go and try your luck again. I don't know if that will come to pass or not, I sure hope not, but I think it's a real possibility and that things like this are the early warnings.
  - davidparks21 3y ago
    That way of looking at it feels like it focuses on the one error while ignoring that, in all likelihood, the same action that caused the error, probably improved 1000 other listings. I guess I'm a glass half full kinda person, this shows me that someone is working on improving things. And I bet they're quite flush from all the attention cause by their oversight in a big spreadsheet. I bet they won't miss the next one. :)
    - maxbond 3y ago
      Why do you suggest that? What do you think the seller's goal was in employing an LLM? Was it to improve quality, or to drive down costs?
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scooke 3y ago
I wonder if the comments saying Amazon is terrible for shopping is due to the same ppl browsing Amazon, rather than actually shopping for the one or two things they need? I've never had a problem finding what I want in my searches. I also don't browse...and I can see how that might result in Amazon showing a person browsing all kinds of things not realizing that THIS TIME they really do want that item.
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- goda90 3y ago
  I have problems finding what I need with searches. Even if it gives me results that match the query, the quality is suspect and sometimes the reviews are blatantly fake. Do you often search for a brand name, popular item? If it's something I can find reviews about on other websites, it's easy to find on Amazon, but anything else is not a great time.
- abadpoli 3y ago
  Same here, I never have a problem with Amazon. I’ve noticed there are different shopping styles though, even in physical stores. Some people go to the store with no idea what they want or just a vague idea that they want something, and will browse the store to see if anything interests them. Other people will go to the store knowing exactly what item they want, and don’t need to browse. I’m the latter, and I’ve never had an issue with Amazon. I know what I want, so it’s trivial for me to just go straight to it and buy it. But other people that like to browse… I can definitely see how they would get caught in the endless see of EFUZZYA and OPANKY products.
- yedava 3y ago
  I avoid Amazon as a rule, but when I try to buy something which is out of stock on sites (like say a dietary supplement), I go through the reviews and will inevitably find someone saying it tastes or smells funny. There are plenty of positive reviews as well, but for something that can impact my health, I don't want to roll the dice with Amazon's utter lack of quality control.
micah94 3y ago
Looks like Amazon has flagged whatever this link used to point to. Trying to decipher from the comments, but my HN-fu is failing me!
- Tommstein 3y ago
  From another comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazo...
- hyperdimension 3y ago
  https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazo... Courtesy of 'avyfain - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38974341 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38974341
pokot0 3y ago
Also possible this is just automated translation. I used OpenAI for translation in a project and similar things happened.
dwheeler 3y ago
This image is now part of my presentation "Artificial Intelligence / Machine Learning (AI/ML) and Security" https://dwheeler.com/secure-class/presentations/AI-ML-Security.ppt https://dwheeler.com/secure-class/presentations/AI-ML-Securi... ... as a nice example of why you should usually have humans review what AI systems do :-).
stefanos82 3y ago
HA! That explains it why this book [1] has Donald Trump as its cover with a completely unrelated title, even though it's about Django web framework LOL! [1] https://www.amazon.com/Django-RESTful-Web-Services-services/dp/1788833929/ https://www.amazon.com/Django-RESTful-Web-Services-services/...
stcredzero 3y ago
That would actually work as a title for a Japanese Light Novel!
NelsonMinar 3y ago
Twitter is awash in this OpenAI spam too. Particularly among the so-called "verified" accounts https://nitter.net/nelson/status/1745892095553143221 https://nitter.net/nelson/status/1745892095553143221
- rideontime 3y ago
  But spammers would never be able to afford eight bucks per month...
- Aicy 3y ago
  This is hardly evidence Twitter is "awash" with OpenAI spam since by the bold text you can see he specifically searched that phrase and yet only showed three responses.
  - NelsonMinar 3y ago
    There were many other tweets that matched this, many from accounts paying $8/mo. Sorry my screenshot wasn't bigger.
neom 3y ago
This one is hilarious: https://www.amazon.com/Natures-Dicks-Calendar-2024-specific/dp/B0CKN5NQ2C/ https://www.amazon.com/Natures-Dicks-Calendar-2024-specific/...
- metadat 3y ago
  https://archive.ph/HWjVX https://archive.ph/HWjVX Okay, too funny description: Nature's Dicks Calendar Book Why You'll Admire This Calendar: - Ample Size: Measuring a generous 8.5 x 11 inches when closed and an expansive 17 x 22 inches when open, it boasts 30 exquisite high-quality animal images. - Exquisite Imagery: Revel in captivating photographs that beautifully depict animals thriving in their natural environments. - Extended Coverage: Spanning from January 2024 to December 2025, plus an additional 6 months into 2026, all included at no extra cost. - Holiday Clarity: Encompassing all major U.S. holidays and moon phases, meticulously omitting perplexing foreign holidays that disrupt your schedule. - Ink-Resistant Printing: Meticulously printed on top-tier paper engineered to withstand ink smears, ensuring your calendar remains pristine. - Precision Image Quality: Revel in vivid, sharp images, a testament to our unwavering commitment to printing excellence. - Ideal Gift: Spread joy among your friends and family by presenting them with this calendar, a thoughtful gesture suitable for any occasion, making it an ideal choice for those on a budget. Definitely appreciate how it covers the exact phallus dimensions up front, and am comforted knowing it won't smear if "ink" gets on it. There's just such a high level of consideration poured into this calendar of dicks, I am nearly speechless. And it covers 2.5 years, who wouldn't want a calendar which ends mid year 2026? Spread the joy all over your friends and family.
  - neom 3y ago
    a thoughtful gesture! suitable for any occasion! Do you think this description was GPT'd also?
    - lights0123 3y ago
      "a testament to our unwavering commitment to printing excellence" is almost certainly a GPT output—I get this self-praise often when trying to use ChatGPT 4 for marketing text.
userbinator 3y ago
I remember things like Translate Server Error (https://i.redd.it/kqqkgaro8ir71.jpg https://i.redd.it/kqqkgaro8ir71.jpg) and other instances of error messages finding their way into places where the output would normally be (another one: https://i.imgur.com/RAVOuwg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RAVOuwg.jpg ). It's not surprising to see this is now happening with AI too.
kazinator 3y ago
The prompt engineers took it down.
ljm 3y ago
I love how Amazon has gone from customer obsession to the lowest of the lowest common denominator. Easiest boycott of my life to stop buying tripe from them. They’ve successfully pivoted from customer obsession to obsessed customers.
- andrenotgiant 3y ago
  Everything on Amazon is shady knock-off garbage. I made the mistake of buying bandaids from there, they looked like a brand name but slightly off, they gave my kids rashes. I made the mistake of buying LED light bulbs from there, the brand name was reputable but who knows if what I actually got was the same brand or a copy, they started flickering and randomly going out within a year. I made the mistake of buying an LED monitor from there. It turned out to be some third party seller with a ridiculous return policy, so even though I had been conditioned to think Amazon had good return policy, now that they let third party sellers set their own policies I had to eat 30% of cost to return it. No more Amazon for me.
  - sgarland 3y ago
    Light bulbs and batteries, I had to quit. Even if you’re buying name-brand, they’re so often counterfeit, it’s just not worth it.
    - sersi 3y ago
      I've had good luck with the eneloops, not sure how to tell if they're counterfeit but they've lasted multiple use over 3 years (I have a toddler so we use batteries like there's no tomorrow)
      - sgarland 3y ago
        Good point, I also have Eneloops from Amazon, and they’re fine. Maybe there isn’t enough demand for NiMH rechargeables to be counterfeited? I also bought mine as part of a charger-included pack, which may reduce the incidence further.
    - 3y ago
hackerlight 3y ago
These are all over twitter. Someone, either a government or private group is using chatgpt to create inauthentic accounts.
- ryanisnan 3y ago
  Huh? Why lean towards conspiracy? Trash sellers looking do dump volume onto Amazon are leveraging tools to generate volume.
  - hackerlight 3y ago
    > Trash sellers looking do dump volume onto Amazon are leveraging tools to generate volume. I'm not talking about Amazon, I'm talking about X. There are many inauthentic accounts with content generated by LLMs currently on X. For example: https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/193jr8s/thank_god_he_saved_twitter_from_the_bots/ https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/193jr8s/tha... Most likely these fake accounts are created by firms who are selling access to mass-likes/follows. They sell the ability to get 10k fake accounts to follow your legitimate account, if you wish to boost your legitimate account, for some reason. Or, these fake accounts are created by intelligence agencies in order to run influence operations. Both of these possibilities have been reported on in the mainstream press. Maybe there's a third explanation that I haven't considered.
    - ryanisnan 3y ago
      Thanks for the clarification. I thought you meant the posts for these accounts was on X. That makes sense.
retrocryptid 3y ago
did anyone else see this one? https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide-context/dp/B0C5X1GXPH/ref=sr_1_43 https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide...
WhackyIdeas 3y ago
I bought my partner a Sony camera and lens for Christmas. Contacted them on Christmas day to tell them it was faulty. It’s the 13th January and they still haven’t refunded. Been in touch and they say it should be refunded by February. Nearly £4K. And the only present I got for my partner (it cleared my bank buying that). Total disaster. Moral of the story: do not buy presents from Amazon. Do not buy anything which you aren’t prepared to wait a couple of months on a refund. And do not trust the statements about refunds in 5-7 days max. Fuckers.
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michaelbuck 3y ago
Nine hours after this was posted the link is 404'ing and about 90% of the links in the comments are also showing a 404. Is some Amazon employee spending their friday afternoon manually removing product listings?
- steelframe 3y ago
  It's Amazon's signature style to make the bad press go away without addressing the underlying issue that generated the bad press to begin with. Their culture is to hand everyone a pager and pull them in to fix the "problem" through just-in-time heroics rather than spend the money to build a system that's resilient to suckage in the first place. And "fixing" means tediously swatting down specific instances that are made public. 1. Allow 20,000 bads to happen through systemic enshittification 2. Get called out on 20 of the bads 3. Hurry up and have some poor sap manually "fix" the bads being highlighted in the public forum 4. "We've fixed every bad we've been informed of!" 5. ??? 6. Profit
  - mint2 3y ago
    Wait but does Amazon even view these seller as bad? I get the feeling they love these sellers but just don’t like them messing up the titles. They’re perfectly happy with low quality drop shipped items with badly written descriptions. They make tons of money from those.
    - michaelbuck 3y ago
      That's exactly why this situation feels a little weird. Usually Amazon usually just lets things like this slide.[1] Amazon initially didn't take the product down from its site after being informed of these results, saying it had documentation supporting its safety, according to the Journal. Later Amazon did remove the product, saying it would ask for more documentation from the company it had used to test it. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-selling-toxic-toys-lead-poisoning-2019-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-selling-toxic-toys-le...
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bane 3y ago
Let's suppose that the hypest of the hype is real - that OpenAI is sitting on some world changing AGI tech. Are we really ready for the Cyberpunk future where corporate policies are enacted with the same force as law?
wly_cdgr 3y ago
Amazon has gone from being good to mostly worse than useless except as joke/meme material. Not for everything, though. Still pretty good for books - prob some other things too.
UseStrict 3y ago
So much of this bot store ships from Amazon... It's mind boggling to imagine how much waste this physical spam introduces, from manufacturing, to shipping to the Amazon warehouse, to warehousing. All for low-quality dupes that aren't even represented by a real business.
sytelus 3y ago
Just until last months people were asking where is all AI spam. It was slow and then sudden.
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jrflowers 3y ago
This is a great example of why Amazon is a better place to buy things than Temu
monkeydust 3y ago
Perhaps this lazy seller should have used another LLM to validate first LLMs output?
wscourge 3y ago
That's a good phrase to remember in terms of bulk-checking my own AI-generated content.
TomMasz 3y ago
Parts of Amazon are now pretty much indistinguishable from AliExpress. This is just the icing on the cake.
tarofchaos 3y ago
So what is interesting is Amazon is an investor in Anthropic but is using OpenAI for keyword description generation
Towaway69 3y ago
Computer says no. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_says_no https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_says_no

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iab 3y ago

"...it goes against OpenAI use policy. (Brown)"

spywaregorilla 3y ago
It's not even brown

siva7 3y ago

I'm sorry, Dave

daveslash 3y ago
Order some new Pod Bay doors HAL.

pixl97 3y ago

Oops, guess they need an 'if' statement that detects OpenAI or language model in the text and aborts the transaction

DarmokJalad1701 3y ago

There's more than one of these: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=OpenAI+use+policy https://www.amazon.com/s?k=OpenAI+use+policy

DaveExeter 3y ago
Here's a fun one: https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademarked-anything/dp/B0CNNBQYXC https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademark...
- tass 3y ago
  Yes, you get all this too: Enhanced Performance: Boost your productivity with our high-performance [product name], designed to deliver-fast results and handle demanding tasks efficiently, ensuring you stay of the competition. Immersive Visuals: Immerse yourself in stunning visuals and vibrant colors with the high-resolution display of [product name], bringing your favorite movies,, and multimedia content to life with clarity and accuracy.
- mikecoles 3y ago
  Looks like the vendor went all in on "AI" translation. "Air Screwdriver" is the description of a product image. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61tqu5gFckL._AC_SL1008_.jpg https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61tqu5gFckL._AC_SL1008_....
SushiHippie 3y ago
For me this didn't show anything but using google did https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aamazon.com+openai+policy https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aamazon.com+openai+pol...
albroland 3y ago
My favorite so far, the entire product description is chef's kiss: https://www.amazon.com/haillusty-Apologize-fulfill-violates-Policy-Gray/dp/B0CMFDNP7D/ https://www.amazon.com/haillusty-Apologize-fulfill-violates-...
- Vicinity9635 3y ago
  Already gone. What did it say?
  - albroland 3y ago
    https://i.imgur.com/QYcAozd.png https://i.imgur.com/QYcAozd.png
    - qingcharles 3y ago
      $2000 chair that is "78 table lengths" in size.

evan_ 3y ago

I wonder what they're prompting ChatGPT with, and what policy it violates. I asked the standard, free ChatGPT 3.5 > Please generate a product title to be used on an e-commerce site for a chest of drawers with three drawers, a metal frame, and a butcher block top and it responded with > "Modern Metal-Frame Chest of Drawers with Butcher Block Top - Three Drawers Storage Solution" which would be a fine title for this listing.

Powdering7082 3y ago
Some others indicated that they prompted with trademarked names https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademarked-anything/dp/B0CNNBQYXC/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fLenxx4pA1Cu3Cggf618dx97qJAP4cVP-wqZiumx4K-piAnZxLbs2Fy6eox3NwWEgiYs7QW6pD1tADmRhqBRMTm9JSfu6l8nX3Ws9itlpXw.j1CvNqtTzIgc48izlAcCXhB7Jzw8N9CEHz31Cs2i8UY&dib_tag=se&keywords=OpenAI+use+policy&qid=1705082086&sr=8-1-fkmr0 https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademark...
- bombcar 3y ago
  The year is 2525, all trademarks have expired. Describe an Ikea® piece of crap to sell on Amazon™
  - ddalex 3y ago
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orenlindsey 3y ago

That's crazy lol, how do the people who make these not think about what they're putting in?

daniel_reetz 3y ago
Roughly speaking, they're not people and not thinking.
- redcobra762 3y ago
  That's some hateful, xenophobic shit my dude.
  - pierat 3y ago
    I think the point is so much of this is automated, that there really is nobody at the helm. Its not hateful to say a LLM and pile-o-scripts is not human. And piles of scripts definitely don't "think".
    - daniel_reetz 3y ago
      Yeah, I was referring to machines/software.
cactus_joe 3y ago
I would hazard a guess that these are not real products - that the seller is a scammer, a lazy one at that.
- orenlindsey 3y ago
  Or, they're just drop-shipping stuff from China and they don't speak English so they use an AI to create a title.
  - bombcar 3y ago

cactus_joe 3y ago

There are others, similar - https://www.amazon.com/FOPEAS-Language-Context-referring-Information/dp/B0C55J5RPF/ https://www.amazon.com/FOPEAS-Language-Context-referring-Inf... The 'brand' FOPEAS seems to be a common factor in some.

david422 3y ago

What is that? An AI generated title on AI generated images? For $325?

Powdering7082 3y ago
Dropped shipped item probably from here: https://www.vidaxl.com/e/vidaxl-sideboard-18.5%22x13.8%22x29.9%22-rough-mango-wood/8720286068410.html https://www.vidaxl.com/e/vidaxl-sideboard-18.5%22x13.8%22x29...
- TrueGeek 3y ago
  That's decent mark up. I bet I could write an app to take products from that site, post them to Amazon, and then just drop ship the orders for me. Of course, I'd have to write all those descriptions...
  - declaredapple 3y ago
    There's a second result on amazon with the same issue https://www.amazon.com/cannot-fulfill-request-against-policy-Black/dp/B0CMPGFP5H/ https://www.amazon.com/cannot-fulfill-request-against-policy... > Of course, I'd have to write all those descriptions... Hilariously they did that too and didn't change it at all - Our [product] is crafted with the highest quality materials to ensure durability and reliability for-lasting use. Versatile Functionality - With multiple adjustable settings and various functions, our [product] can easily adapt to your specific needs, making it a versatile addition to any home or office.
    - washadjeffmad 3y ago
      https://www.amazon.com/Sorry-generate-response-request-Blue/dp/B0CM7DHSFC/ https://www.amazon.com/Sorry-generate-response-request-Blue/... Another with an interesting detail: "Introducing the incredible 'Sorry but I can't generate a response to that request.' software! Designed to assist you in overcoming any query obstacles, this optimized product is here to revolutionize your search experience With a precise character count of 500, every word has been expertly crafted to deliver meaningful responses while avoiding duplication Say goodbye to frustrating dead ends and trademark restrictions Upgrade to 'Sorry but I can't generate a response to that request.' for seamless navigation through any query!"

TFortunato 3y ago

Related story: https://futurism.com/amazon-products-ai-generated https://futurism.com/amazon-products-ai-generated

rlewkov 3y ago

What, no reviews

Matticus_Rex 3y ago
I was going to submit one, but it said that Amazon had flagged the item as having suspicious review behavior, so I'm guessing a lot of others had the same idea.

add-sub-mul-div 3y ago

On Bluesky I saw some screenshots of a flood of Twitter accounts all posting this text. Glad the new management has solved the bots issues.

hprotagonist 3y ago

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=I%27m+sorry+openai https://www.amazon.com/s?k=I%27m+sorry+openai man, there are a loooot.

sam0x17 3y ago

wow it's crazy to see all the marketing babble that has evolved since we all just used adwords/adsense, doubleclick, web rings, and affiliate programs without really thinking about it in the early 00s and didn't have made up words for all these things nor did we think at all about targeting. The really fancy ones among us might say things like SEO, PPC, PPM, and ROI but that was about it

packetlost 3y ago

I get that this is basically fraud and spam, but this should really highlight the dangers of letting an unattended LLM do anything for your company at all. It can, and will, fuck up dramatically sooner or later.

sandworm101 3y ago
>> unattended LLM do anything for your company at all. It can, and will, fuck up dramatically sooner or later. So, just like any other random employee?
- hereme888 3y ago
  not THAT badly, lol
  - TrololoTroll 3y ago
    People on this forum often "joke" about dropping the production database as a rite of passage for noobs
    - jader201 3y ago
      > as a rite of passage for noobs I’ve been in the field for nearly 30 years. I’m far from incapable of such screwups.
      - deusum 3y ago
        Being a pro means you can fix anything you break - preferably before anyone noticies
      - sophacles 3y ago
        I would hope that your experience has at least decreased the time between "first hearing about wierdness" and "realizing you accidnetally dropped prod". It's why pay generally increases with experience :D.
    - 3y ago

nomilk 3y ago

Found some similar AI babble left in a negative google review the other day: https://imgur.com/a/20jLlg7 https://imgur.com/a/20jLlg7 Unsure if it was from someone who had a real experience and used ChatGPT to help them word it, or if it was a nefarious actor (e.g. competitor) lazily bad-mouthing competition.

elliotbnvl 3y ago

There are a lot of them. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=OpenAI+use+policy https://www.amazon.com/s?k=OpenAI+use+policy

SushiHippie 3y ago

Computer says no https://youtu.be/0n_Ty_72Qds https://youtu.be/0n_Ty_72Qds

nytesky 3y ago
I really expected to see this, do people still watch 2001? https://youtu.be/Wy4EfdnMZ5g?si=K2GNOtlprFEyPj8A https://youtu.be/Wy4EfdnMZ5g?si=K2GNOtlprFEyPj8A
- genman 3y ago
  Not frequently, but "computer says no" is more realistic scenario to happen, isn't it?
  - RGamma 3y ago
    As things are going "computer is going to turn us to goo without indication" will be the more realistic scenario... Even be it at behest of its human masters.
pdrojack 3y ago
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QvJ4K1i8l8M https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QvJ4K1i8l8M
FredPret 3y ago
Computer says sorry nowadays
joshstrange 3y ago
Every time I see a LLM spit out an answer like this post this is all I can think of. I immediately say "Computer says no" in my head.
proc0 3y ago
Also, "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE

AlecSchueler 3y ago

Easy fix since ChatGPT always apologises for not complying: any description or title containing the word "sorry" gets flagged for human oversight. Still orders of magnitude faster than writing all your own spam texts.

Retr0id 3y ago
Sometimes it "apologizes" rather than saying "sorry", you could build a fairly solid heuristic but I'm not sure you can catch every possible phrasing. OpenAI could presumably add a "did the safety net kick in?" boolean to API responses, and, also presumably, they don't want to do that because it would make it easier to systematically bypass.
- ryandamm 3y ago
  Why not have a separate chat request to apology-check the responses? Not my original idea, there was a link from HN where the dev did just that.
  - Retr0id 3y ago
    Sounds like a great way to double your API bills, and maybe that's worth it, but it seems pretty heavy-handed to me (and equally not 100% watertight).
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    - spdustin 3y ago
      Only allow one token to answer. Use logit bias to make "0" or "1" the most probable tokens. Ask it "Is this message an apology? Return 0 for no, 1 for yes." Feed it only the first 25 tokens of the message you're checking.
    - Cheer2171 3y ago
      OpenAI's moderation API is free and just tells you if your query will be declined: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/moderation https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/moderation

BWStearns 3y ago

Bummer that Amazon blocked asking questions about the product. I was curious if they had ChatGPT rigged up to answer.

neom 3y ago

Submitted earlier today - would be nice if people instead of re-submitting the exact same thing that didn't get traction, emailed hn@yc and asked for it to go in the second chance pool, it's more polite to the original submitter. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38969417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38969417

decremental 3y ago
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CharlesW 3y ago

Similar X-ample: https://www.threads.net/@parkermolloy/post/C14qS_CJp8q https://www.threads.net/@parkermolloy/post/C14qS_CJp8q

freedomben 3y ago

Gah, that dresser isn't even brown! I do kind of want to buy one though just to see what happens. I really need a wealthy patron to sponsor my gentleman science

avalys 3y ago

Ah, FOPEAS, that distinguished brand of kitchen counter drawers renowned throughout the world.

serf 3y ago
Amazon, in general, is not the place to shop for "brands renowned throughout the world." Most of those folks stay off amazon, and If you're lucky enough to find such a brand on Amazon the chances that you receive a counterfeit version are pretty great. Although if I had an endless bag of money to burn it'd be fun to buy an Amazon Rolex [0] just to see how it's handled. [0]: https://www.amazon.com/Rolex-Oyster-Perpetual-Master-116710BLNR/dp/B00E2J63VU/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Rolex&sr=8-5 https://www.amazon.com/Rolex-Oyster-Perpetual-Master-116710B...
- vineyardmike 3y ago
  I think the “IM JUST AN AI MODEL FROM OPEN AI, I CANT DO THAT” drawers are actually more famous for their quality and engineering details than Rolexes. You’re right, that probably means this is counterfeit, but my heart skipped a beat with excitement just seeing they had it in stock. That is, of course, their premium drawers, and it looks like they’re sold out of their “I found this on the web. Please unlock your iPhone to view more” bar cart as well.
- poisonborz 3y ago
  It actually is... ? For every brand, I search amazon first. They usually have it cheaper, with fast delivery and reliable return policy. Better than most brand webshops. If brand/quality wouldn't matter I would go to Ali.
  - kibwen 3y ago
    > If brand/quality wouldn't matter I would go to Ali. If brand/quality matters, I'd rather order from Ali than Amazon, because if I'm going to get a counterfeit anyway then I might as well pay less for it.
- dylan604 3y ago

Lamad1234 3y ago

If you search " I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request", you get results for some "products" on amazon

QuinnyPig 3y ago

When do we as a society get to the point where we feel requiring Amazon to have products be human-reviewed before posting is a burden that the $1.602T company can probably shoulder?

szundi 3y ago
Let them solve these with AI or whatever, but the government should invest in punishing the shit that FAANG companies do and then hand in the invoice.
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ransom1538 3y ago
When I decide I need AI to read through their AI.

486sx33 3y ago

I like that it ends in -brown Is that Amazon adding the color to the title or the person who let open AI run wild did like a && color field

philk10 3y ago

A more modern version of the 'out of office' reply from a translation service? https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2008/nov/01/5 https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2008/nov/01/5

fortran77 3y ago

See also: https://www.amazon.com/cannot-fulfill-request-against-policy-Black/dp/B0CMPGFP5H/ref=sr_1_1 https://www.amazon.com/cannot-fulfill-request-against-policy...

nostromo 3y ago

There are others. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CNNBQYXC/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CNNBQYXC/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMFDNP7D/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMFDNP7D/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFWNXYC7/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFWNXYC7/ The product descriptions are pretty obviously AI too, saying a lot without saying anything: * Versatile and Practical: 1 is a product that offers multiple uses, making it suitable for various tasks and ensuring for your money. * Durable Construction: Crafted with sturdy materials, 1 is built to withstand daily wear and tear, providing-lasting performance and reliability. * Easy to Use: With its user-friendly design, 1 is effortless to operate, allowing you to complete tasks without any hassle or complications. * Enhanced Efficiency: Featuring advanced technology, 1 ensures efficient performance, saving you and effort while delivering exceptional results. * Ergonomic Design: 1 is thoughtfully designed to prioritize comfort during use, minimizing fatigue and promoting a comfortable working experience.

beretguy 3y ago
4 minutes after your post I’m getting 404.
- nostromo 3y ago
  Amazon employees have entered the chat... :) Here's an example of the products listed: https://imgur.com/Dc1GvI5 https://imgur.com/Dc1GvI5
- wavemode 3y ago
  lol I guess you can be pretty sure that people who work for Amazon are browsing the comments of most frontpage HN posts I certainly was, when I worked there.
- autoexec 3y ago
  https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide-context/dp/B0C5X1GXPH/ https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide... is still up. What even is this?
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nickvec 3y ago

Disregarding the title, you'd have to be a fool to spend $325 on that cabinet.

bmmayer1 3y ago

No reviews so far. Weird.

nsypteras 3y ago

silly fail or genius viral marketing scheme?

erellsworth 3y ago

Oh man, it only comes in brown?

globular-toast 3y ago

Would ChatGPT really output a malformed sentence like that? From what I've seen the impressive part is it makes correct English sentences (whether they make sense or are true or not is another matter). This looks like something a human with regular/bad English would write.

moolcool 3y ago

Using Amazon for shopping is terrible, borderline unusable in 2024. They're hard to compete with because they're giant and have an amazing logistics network, but it also seems like there's a big vacuum in the market for an "everything store" that's actually good.

chrsw 3y ago
There is no competition. I'm not an economist but a monopoly is not a free market in my view.
TillE 3y ago
They're fine at selling stuff, they're absolutely horrendous at being a place to search for a product if you don't know exactly what you're looking for. The solution is just to look for third-party specialist review sites who know what they're talking about.
- wharvle 3y ago
  They're risky if you do know what you're looking for, because of all the counterfeits and return scams and such. They're basically only OK if you're buying trash-tier goods on purpose, because there's no reason to counterfeit or scam with those and you already know they're going to be bad.
- yunwal 3y ago
  At least with Amazon, I don’t trust that I’m not getting fakes even if I know what I’m looking for.
- 123pie123 3y ago
  Amazons search is so bad that I typically use google/ddg to search their site for products
  - sroussey 3y ago
    Same. Amazon search doesn’t do faceting when and where you expect. When I want to search I use google or Reddit (mainly google across Reddit). When I want to purchase I use Honey. When I want to browse (home goods) I use shopDeft.com and switch to photo only mode. Amazon search is so bad and has so many ads that there are multiple opportunities to do something new.

seydor 3y ago

I m sorry, that's not even brown

bitwize 3y ago

"Oh, and check it out: I'm a bloody genius now! Estás usando este software de traducción in forma incorrecta. Por favor, consultar el manual. I don't even know what I just said, but I can find out!"

dathinab 3y ago

AI gone wrong or marketing stunt? Probably the former. But the thing doesn't look half bad one the pictures. Looks like something you might get from IKEA under one of their "slightly better quality" lines (which at least in the EU are pretty good choice if you don't want to spend too much on furniture but also feel that the main line lines from IKEA are a bit to cheap in quality).

sp332 3y ago
I was leaning toward the latter because OpenAI doesn’t usually have poor grammar like that.
willis77 3y ago
The fine folks at <checks notes> FOPEAS would never tarnish their good name by stooping to such a stunt. I mean, we might expect such shenanigans from the likes of SMURGBLOZ, KINSURGE, or GSIROOZ, but not FOPEAS, fine purveyors of `FOPEAS an AI Language Model I do not Have Access to The Context of The SFD You are referring to. Can You Please Provide me with More Information so That I can Assist You Better`
- Gabriel_Martin 3y ago
  it's a shocking accusation, truly.
kjkjadksj 3y ago
It looks good but its probably pigiron with cheap paint that will flake off and particle board. I’m done buying cheap stuff. By the time ten years have gone by you’ve spent more on cheap stuff replacing the broken cheap stuff than the buy it for life option would have ever cost.
- Aeolun 3y ago
  I don’t think that’s quite true. I’ve spent less on two entire suites of IKEA furniture that I used for roughly 15 years (as student and young professional) than I spent on the single table that now stands in our living room.

belinder 3y ago

I would assume the person that made it doesn't speak english, and trusts whatever the LLM gave them

mrweasel 3y ago
It has to be something like that, because why even bother using a LLM to create a title for a piece of furniture. Side note: Amazon really needs to get around to fix the fact that their "search" can only find terms in titles and not in the descriptions or product meta data.
davidparks21 3y ago
I'd guess the more mundane, someone probably had a spreadsheet of a few thousand updates or improvements, checked a reasonable sample of them, then accepted the lot of then. I bet you they don't make that mistake next time.

visarga 3y ago

That's original naming sense from GPT. We now have I'm Sorry Furniture.

ddano 3y ago

Amazon finally beats IKEA in product naming game. The biggest question here is isn't Amazon using their own AI to filter and rate basic things like titles and flag them and etc....

PeterCorless 3y ago

We need a "Failblog" for AI.

Paul-Craft 3y ago

https://archive.is/1r4Rj https://archive.is/1r4Rj for when this inevitably gets taken down.

swyx 3y ago

The AI ouroboros - first we grab data from the Internet to train our LLMs, then our LLMs slowly become the majority of data from the Internet. "Low background noise" tokens will become a scarce commodity. https://www.latent.space/p/nov-2023 https://www.latent.space/p/nov-2023

Animats 3y ago

I don't use Amazon much any more since they sold me counterfeit pharmaceuticals, which were recalled years later.

HanClinto 3y ago

A couple more examples: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sorry+openai+policy https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sorry+openai+policy

madsbuch 3y ago

I bought a headset. it turned out not to support Bluetooth. upon wanting to return the headset, they set it would not be possible. that was until I found a line in their listing that said it should support Bluetooth. I am quite sure that line cam. in because somebody just copy pasted the wrong file to the listing. the merchants will be liable for what they let the LLMs promise on behalf of them.

asylteltine 3y ago

I really hope they keep this up and it gets “real reviews” so we can prove Amazon is full of shit. It’s so full of shit I don’t buy products unless it has many thousands of reviews just because of noise

diabeetusman 3y ago

Found another one here: https://www.amazon.com/khalery-Apologies-Encourages-unethical-Behavior-Black/dp/B0CMJNZ4DG https://www.amazon.com/khalery-Apologies-Encourages-unethica...

titaniumtown 3y ago

Link was just removed. Seems Amazon caught on quickly

orenlindsey 3y ago

It's been removed from Amazon.

nagarjuna981 3y ago

Amazon is effective in promoting products based on user cookies. The price indeed fluctuates to compete with rivals. They often curate products that provide higher margins. Sometimes, it is challenging to determine the best product from reviews due to mixed experiences worldwide.

psnehanshu 3y ago

What is this? I don't understand. Currently it just leads to a "not found" page.

ssalka 3y ago
It was just deleted. Someone used ChatGPT to generate a product name and instead got an "I can't do that" response
windowlessmonad 3y ago
The product had that text as its title. Another one shows: "khalery [Apologies but I'm Unable to Assist with This Request it goes Against OpenAI use Policy and Encourages unethical Behavior-Black"
nomel 3y ago
They're listing with AI descriptions. They're getting taken down fast. Here's an example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38972344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38972344
kruuuder 3y ago
Here's a link to the archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112170316/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112170316/https://www.amazo...
- j-bos 3y ago
  @dang request to swap the main url for context
  - rootusrootus 3y ago
    I recommend clicking on 'Contact' at the bottom of the page, dang doesn't get any notifications of these comments and probably won't see it.
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giarc 3y ago

Page Not Found. Anyone have a screencap?

LordDragonfang 3y ago

Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112170316/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112170316/https://www.amazo... 2 hours later, the page has been taken down.

mgerullis 3y ago

Seems the entry is gone sadly

dylan604 3y ago

The page has now been removed. Was it by amazon or the seller?

furyofantares 3y ago

I found a couple more earlier today that are also taken down now. Archive links for them: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112182246/https://www.amazon.com/haillusty-Apologize-fulfill-violates-Policy-Gray/dp/B0CMFDNP7D https://web.archive.org/web/20240112182246/https://www.amazo... https://web.archive.org/web/20240112180943/https://www.amazon.com/apologize-complete-requires-trademarked-anything/dp/B0CNNBQYXC https://web.archive.org/web/20240112180943/https://www.amazo...

matteoraso 3y ago

I know this is the wrong takeaway from this post, but how lazy are these scammers? A simple regex would have caught this and saved them a huge amount of embarrassment.

yunwal 3y ago
Embarrassment? Why would anyone be embarrassed? They’re scammers

firstSpeaker 3y ago

They all seem to be 3rd party products and not stuff sold by Amazon. Some 3rd party seller is doing some doo doo

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ziofill 3y ago

I always get a laugh from the section "Frequently bought together", which is often a obvious lie.

elzbardico 3y ago

I miss the times where Amazon search was dumber. Nothing more infuriating than typing an exact model number and the exact thing you're not looking for not appearing or be buried in a mountain of other products, some of them not even related to what you're looking for, because of some stupid personalization algorithm that is too smart for its own good. Category and product pages are completely useless, sorting by any attribute does something, but that something is anything but sorting. Not to mention that if by sheer luck you find whatever you want to find, be sure to order it immediately or at least add it to your cart. No guarantees that the search you did now will work ever again.

layman51 3y ago

In case anyone is confused (since the link goes to a 404 page now), the link appeared to go to a product listing of a dresser but the name of the product was the name of this posting, “I’m sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request…”

guhcampos 3y ago

Capitalism might be eating itself, it has become impossible to shop online in the past few years. Speaking from Brazil: - Google shopping shows very few local stores, most of the listings I get are from overseas stores, many don't even ship to Brazil, and prices don't reflect shipping and import fees - Google Ads are useless, as they're often unrelated to the query, tailored simply to whoever company pays more for words - Amazon, besides the fake and bad listings, now has ads on itself, so it's not only hard to find what you need, now you need to scroll past the unwanted ads, too, just like in Google - Most previously nice online shops have copied Amazon and turned into marketplaces, and suffer from the exact same issues, with shitloads of fake listings, drop-shipping scams, bot-reviews, etc. - Local giants like Mercado Libre have their own issues, like absent categorization or indexing of listings, so you're left with randomly writing queries that might or not match what you need, so you never know if you can't find an item because it's not available or because you just didn't guess correctly how it's listed - Chinese giants like Shopee and AliExpress suffer from the usual issues of long delivery times, bad customer service, low quality ripoff, etc. So contrary to my own previous beliefs and predictions, I find myself doing MORE brick-and-mortar shopping, not less.

avyfain 3y ago

Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazo...

progbits 3y ago
Original is gone, maybe this should replace the submission link.
- CodeWriter23 3y ago
  Nah, this wrong link provides some useful context
- nabilhat 3y ago
  The seller's account is unaffected, including the full remainder of their scammy inventory in all its AI-nglish glory. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=FOPEAS https://www.amazon.com/s?k=FOPEAS
  - garciansmith 3y ago
    At least the seller offers this quality cat mirror/I'm sorry I cannot complete this task, which has Massive Storage Capacity. https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide-context/dp/B0C5X1GXPH https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide...
    - thefourthchime 3y ago
      $898 and it boosts "Power Efficiency: Our SFD boasts incredible power efficiency, consuming minimal battery power to provide longer playback or recording than others." Not sure if it's a mirror or cat related.
    - jfim 3y ago
      Internet archive link in case it goes away: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112231322/https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide-context/dp/B0C5X1GXPH https://web.archive.org/web/20240112231322/https://www.amazo...

weinzierl 3y ago

The page is gone, it only shows Amazon's doggy 404. Can someone explain what it showed before, or summarize what it was about. This will put all the comments into their original context.

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davidparks21 3y ago

This feels like something of a non story to me. Using AI for product descriptions seems like an obvious and reasonable use case; and data entry errors are not uncommon nor terribly harmful in the context.

maxbond 3y ago
I think it's a sign of what's to come. A world where many things are done so shoddily and with such little regard that it becomes nearly impossible to navigate. You sift through a pile of crap trying to get basic shopping done, descriptions that are wrong and nonsensical, fictional product photos that are useless to judge scale or fitness for purpose, etc. When you finally find what you need, you end up receiving the wrong item because no one in the supply chain gave a shit. You try to get this resolved, and are bounced around a series of half-broken customer service bots. It's difficult and expensive to find alternatives who do give a shit, because the automated companies have driven prices (and quality) into the ground, and it ends up being cheaper and easier to let it go and try your luck again. I don't know if that will come to pass or not, I sure hope not, but I think it's a real possibility and that things like this are the early warnings.
- davidparks21 3y ago
  That way of looking at it feels like it focuses on the one error while ignoring that, in all likelihood, the same action that caused the error, probably improved 1000 other listings. I guess I'm a glass half full kinda person, this shows me that someone is working on improving things. And I bet they're quite flush from all the attention cause by their oversight in a big spreadsheet. I bet they won't miss the next one. :)
  - maxbond 3y ago
    Why do you suggest that? What do you think the seller's goal was in employing an LLM? Was it to improve quality, or to drive down costs?
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scooke 3y ago

I wonder if the comments saying Amazon is terrible for shopping is due to the same ppl browsing Amazon, rather than actually shopping for the one or two things they need? I've never had a problem finding what I want in my searches. I also don't browse...and I can see how that might result in Amazon showing a person browsing all kinds of things not realizing that THIS TIME they really do want that item.

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goda90 3y ago
I have problems finding what I need with searches. Even if it gives me results that match the query, the quality is suspect and sometimes the reviews are blatantly fake. Do you often search for a brand name, popular item? If it's something I can find reviews about on other websites, it's easy to find on Amazon, but anything else is not a great time.
abadpoli 3y ago
Same here, I never have a problem with Amazon. I’ve noticed there are different shopping styles though, even in physical stores. Some people go to the store with no idea what they want or just a vague idea that they want something, and will browse the store to see if anything interests them. Other people will go to the store knowing exactly what item they want, and don’t need to browse. I’m the latter, and I’ve never had an issue with Amazon. I know what I want, so it’s trivial for me to just go straight to it and buy it. But other people that like to browse… I can definitely see how they would get caught in the endless see of EFUZZYA and OPANKY products.
yedava 3y ago
I avoid Amazon as a rule, but when I try to buy something which is out of stock on sites (like say a dietary supplement), I go through the reviews and will inevitably find someone saying it tastes or smells funny. There are plenty of positive reviews as well, but for something that can impact my health, I don't want to roll the dice with Amazon's utter lack of quality control.

micah94 3y ago

Looks like Amazon has flagged whatever this link used to point to. Trying to decipher from the comments, but my HN-fu is failing me!

Tommstein 3y ago
From another comment: https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazo...
hyperdimension 3y ago
https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazon.com/fulfill-request-respectful-information-users-Brown/dp/B0CM82FJL2 https://web.archive.org/web/20240112193755/https://www.amazo... Courtesy of 'avyfain - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38974341 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38974341

pokot0 3y ago

Also possible this is just automated translation. I used OpenAI for translation in a project and similar things happened.

dwheeler 3y ago

This image is now part of my presentation "Artificial Intelligence / Machine Learning (AI/ML) and Security" https://dwheeler.com/secure-class/presentations/AI-ML-Security.ppt https://dwheeler.com/secure-class/presentations/AI-ML-Securi... ... as a nice example of why you should usually have humans review what AI systems do :-).

stefanos82 3y ago

HA! That explains it why this book [1] has Donald Trump as its cover with a completely unrelated title, even though it's about Django web framework LOL! [1] https://www.amazon.com/Django-RESTful-Web-Services-services/dp/1788833929/ https://www.amazon.com/Django-RESTful-Web-Services-services/...

stcredzero 3y ago

That would actually work as a title for a Japanese Light Novel!

NelsonMinar 3y ago

Twitter is awash in this OpenAI spam too. Particularly among the so-called "verified" accounts https://nitter.net/nelson/status/1745892095553143221 https://nitter.net/nelson/status/1745892095553143221

rideontime 3y ago
But spammers would never be able to afford eight bucks per month...
Aicy 3y ago
This is hardly evidence Twitter is "awash" with OpenAI spam since by the bold text you can see he specifically searched that phrase and yet only showed three responses.
- NelsonMinar 3y ago
  There were many other tweets that matched this, many from accounts paying $8/mo. Sorry my screenshot wasn't bigger.

neom 3y ago

This one is hilarious: https://www.amazon.com/Natures-Dicks-Calendar-2024-specific/dp/B0CKN5NQ2C/ https://www.amazon.com/Natures-Dicks-Calendar-2024-specific/...

metadat 3y ago
https://archive.ph/HWjVX https://archive.ph/HWjVX Okay, too funny description: Nature's Dicks Calendar Book Why You'll Admire This Calendar: - Ample Size: Measuring a generous 8.5 x 11 inches when closed and an expansive 17 x 22 inches when open, it boasts 30 exquisite high-quality animal images. - Exquisite Imagery: Revel in captivating photographs that beautifully depict animals thriving in their natural environments. - Extended Coverage: Spanning from January 2024 to December 2025, plus an additional 6 months into 2026, all included at no extra cost. - Holiday Clarity: Encompassing all major U.S. holidays and moon phases, meticulously omitting perplexing foreign holidays that disrupt your schedule. - Ink-Resistant Printing: Meticulously printed on top-tier paper engineered to withstand ink smears, ensuring your calendar remains pristine. - Precision Image Quality: Revel in vivid, sharp images, a testament to our unwavering commitment to printing excellence. - Ideal Gift: Spread joy among your friends and family by presenting them with this calendar, a thoughtful gesture suitable for any occasion, making it an ideal choice for those on a budget. Definitely appreciate how it covers the exact phallus dimensions up front, and am comforted knowing it won't smear if "ink" gets on it. There's just such a high level of consideration poured into this calendar of dicks, I am nearly speechless. And it covers 2.5 years, who wouldn't want a calendar which ends mid year 2026? Spread the joy all over your friends and family.
- neom 3y ago
  a thoughtful gesture! suitable for any occasion! Do you think this description was GPT'd also?
  - lights0123 3y ago
    "a testament to our unwavering commitment to printing excellence" is almost certainly a GPT output—I get this self-praise often when trying to use ChatGPT 4 for marketing text.

userbinator 3y ago

I remember things like Translate Server Error (https://i.redd.it/kqqkgaro8ir71.jpg https://i.redd.it/kqqkgaro8ir71.jpg) and other instances of error messages finding their way into places where the output would normally be (another one: https://i.imgur.com/RAVOuwg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RAVOuwg.jpg ). It's not surprising to see this is now happening with AI too.

kazinator 3y ago

The prompt engineers took it down.

ljm 3y ago

I love how Amazon has gone from customer obsession to the lowest of the lowest common denominator. Easiest boycott of my life to stop buying tripe from them. They’ve successfully pivoted from customer obsession to obsessed customers.

andrenotgiant 3y ago
Everything on Amazon is shady knock-off garbage. I made the mistake of buying bandaids from there, they looked like a brand name but slightly off, they gave my kids rashes. I made the mistake of buying LED light bulbs from there, the brand name was reputable but who knows if what I actually got was the same brand or a copy, they started flickering and randomly going out within a year. I made the mistake of buying an LED monitor from there. It turned out to be some third party seller with a ridiculous return policy, so even though I had been conditioned to think Amazon had good return policy, now that they let third party sellers set their own policies I had to eat 30% of cost to return it. No more Amazon for me.
- sgarland 3y ago
  Light bulbs and batteries, I had to quit. Even if you’re buying name-brand, they’re so often counterfeit, it’s just not worth it.
  - sersi 3y ago
    I've had good luck with the eneloops, not sure how to tell if they're counterfeit but they've lasted multiple use over 3 years (I have a toddler so we use batteries like there's no tomorrow)
    - sgarland 3y ago
      Good point, I also have Eneloops from Amazon, and they’re fine. Maybe there isn’t enough demand for NiMH rechargeables to be counterfeited? I also bought mine as part of a charger-included pack, which may reduce the incidence further.
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hackerlight 3y ago

These are all over twitter. Someone, either a government or private group is using chatgpt to create inauthentic accounts.

ryanisnan 3y ago
Huh? Why lean towards conspiracy? Trash sellers looking do dump volume onto Amazon are leveraging tools to generate volume.
- hackerlight 3y ago
  > Trash sellers looking do dump volume onto Amazon are leveraging tools to generate volume. I'm not talking about Amazon, I'm talking about X. There are many inauthentic accounts with content generated by LLMs currently on X. For example: https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/193jr8s/thank_god_he_saved_twitter_from_the_bots/ https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/193jr8s/tha... Most likely these fake accounts are created by firms who are selling access to mass-likes/follows. They sell the ability to get 10k fake accounts to follow your legitimate account, if you wish to boost your legitimate account, for some reason. Or, these fake accounts are created by intelligence agencies in order to run influence operations. Both of these possibilities have been reported on in the mainstream press. Maybe there's a third explanation that I haven't considered.
  - ryanisnan 3y ago
    Thanks for the clarification. I thought you meant the posts for these accounts was on X. That makes sense.

retrocryptid 3y ago

did anyone else see this one? https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide-context/dp/B0C5X1GXPH/ref=sr_1_43 https://www.amazon.com/complete-information-provided-provide...

WhackyIdeas 3y ago

I bought my partner a Sony camera and lens for Christmas. Contacted them on Christmas day to tell them it was faulty. It’s the 13th January and they still haven’t refunded. Been in touch and they say it should be refunded by February. Nearly £4K. And the only present I got for my partner (it cleared my bank buying that). Total disaster. Moral of the story: do not buy presents from Amazon. Do not buy anything which you aren’t prepared to wait a couple of months on a refund. And do not trust the statements about refunds in 5-7 days max. Fuckers.

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michaelbuck 3y ago

Nine hours after this was posted the link is 404'ing and about 90% of the links in the comments are also showing a 404. Is some Amazon employee spending their friday afternoon manually removing product listings?

steelframe 3y ago
It's Amazon's signature style to make the bad press go away without addressing the underlying issue that generated the bad press to begin with. Their culture is to hand everyone a pager and pull them in to fix the "problem" through just-in-time heroics rather than spend the money to build a system that's resilient to suckage in the first place. And "fixing" means tediously swatting down specific instances that are made public. 1. Allow 20,000 bads to happen through systemic enshittification 2. Get called out on 20 of the bads 3. Hurry up and have some poor sap manually "fix" the bads being highlighted in the public forum 4. "We've fixed every bad we've been informed of!" 5. ??? 6. Profit
- mint2 3y ago
  Wait but does Amazon even view these seller as bad? I get the feeling they love these sellers but just don’t like them messing up the titles. They’re perfectly happy with low quality drop shipped items with badly written descriptions. They make tons of money from those.
  - michaelbuck 3y ago
    That's exactly why this situation feels a little weird. Usually Amazon usually just lets things like this slide.[1] Amazon initially didn't take the product down from its site after being informed of these results, saying it had documentation supporting its safety, according to the Journal. Later Amazon did remove the product, saying it would ask for more documentation from the company it had used to test it. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-selling-toxic-toys-lead-poisoning-2019-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-selling-toxic-toys-le...

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bane 3y ago

Let's suppose that the hypest of the hype is real - that OpenAI is sitting on some world changing AGI tech. Are we really ready for the Cyberpunk future where corporate policies are enacted with the same force as law?

wly_cdgr 3y ago

Amazon has gone from being good to mostly worse than useless except as joke/meme material. Not for everything, though. Still pretty good for books - prob some other things too.

UseStrict 3y ago

So much of this bot store ships from Amazon... It's mind boggling to imagine how much waste this physical spam introduces, from manufacturing, to shipping to the Amazon warehouse, to warehousing. All for low-quality dupes that aren't even represented by a real business.

sytelus 3y ago

Just until last months people were asking where is all AI spam. It was slow and then sudden.

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jrflowers 3y ago

This is a great example of why Amazon is a better place to buy things than Temu

monkeydust 3y ago

Perhaps this lazy seller should have used another LLM to validate first LLMs output?

wscourge 3y ago

That's a good phrase to remember in terms of bulk-checking my own AI-generated content.

TomMasz 3y ago

Parts of Amazon are now pretty much indistinguishable from AliExpress. This is just the icing on the cake.

tarofchaos 3y ago

So what is interesting is Amazon is an investor in Anthropic but is using OpenAI for keyword description generation

Towaway69 3y ago

Computer says no. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_says_no https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_says_no