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Ideal monitor rotation for programmers (2021)
- linecept 3y ago45deg makes a hell lot of sense. No line breaks needed anymore.
- therein 3y agoI thought you were making a clever joke until I visited the link. https://sprocketfox.io/xssfox/images/PXL_20211202_035205492.jpg https://sprocketfox.io/xssfox/images/PXL_20211202_035205492.... Something about this is hilarious.
- dexzod 3y agoJust looking at it makes me feel dizzy
- _the_inflator 3y agoWatching this picture, I am desperately waiting for some box2d animation to appear.
- dr_kiszonka 3y agoThis looks like I would be spending most of my day scrolling : - )
- starkparker 3y ago(2021) Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29417484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29417484
- dang 3y agoThanks! Macroexpanded: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29417484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29417484 - Dec 2021 (419 comments)
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- PDTao5Q2TMaTp7U 3y ago1 vert and 1 horiz is actually my favorite setup. I just dont have space for it next to my ultrawide.
- eru 3y agoSee the linked article for an improvement.
- raingros 3y agoMaybe it would be smarter to use one of the these? Samsung 43" M70A 4K UHD Smart Monitor https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/smart-monitors/43--m7-4k-uhd-smart-monitor-with-streaming-tv-ls43am702unxza/ https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/smart-monitors...
- KeplerBoy 3y agoI'm curious about these, but I feel like it's too much vertical space, which would require a lot of head movement.
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- winrid 3y agoI liked my Samsung ultra wide until it started to hurt my eyes from the terrible PWM modulation...
- SSLy 3y agoHow do I check whether my display is having fine PWM modulation?
- user_7832 3y agoIt might be worth checking the modes available, perhaps cinema or eyecare modes may help if available. Not a monitor but on our Samsung TV some modes flicker visibly while others don’t. Fiddling around the settings accidentally turned it on for me.
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y agoThe 22° solution is just missing a triangular window implementation, or perhaps a "split diagonally" window view option.
- lifthrasiir 3y agoI do think the optimal screen is more or less a triangle or a semi-circle. A rotated rectangular screen is a very crude approximation.
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- akho 3y agoI think we need a wayland protocol for this, going forward.
- LispSporks22 3y ago90 degrees is best for me and my Go code. Can fit tons more “if err != nil” blocks that way.
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoYou could do two column layout that way too, because nobody should write more than 80 characters wide.
- loloquwowndueo 3y agoWhy, so your friends using vintage vt100 terminals can read your code without scrolling?
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- HarHarVeryFunny 3y agoNo need to limit to 100 cols - VT100 with AVO (Advanced Video Option) or VT102 could do 132 columns! Would have been cool to pair up a terminal like this with a BBC micro or other similar vintage computer for code editing, although the terminal would have been more expensive than the computer.
- layer8 3y agoI find up to about 100 characters to be manageable from a readability perspective, but yes, not much more.
- Nition 3y agoThe actual "ideal" rotation for maximum line length would be closer to 23° rather than 22°, right? Because Atan(9/21) = 23.20°. Also... could we go further? If we're treating the screen's content as an arbitrary plane, what about tilting the content of screen away from you like SNES Mode 7 or the Star Wars text crawl? Infinite screen height!
- quickthrower2 3y agoDoes character height affect that calculation? The longest line possible wont be able to render at the ends, so is it possible there is a shorter line on a different angle that can render more text?
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- layer8 3y agoI believe you are right. For reasonably small character heights, it would decrease the angle slightly.
- layer8 3y agoSince the monitor is curved, it might even be closer to 24°.
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- isoprophlex 3y agoThe ideal obviously is a monitor spinning at the magic angle of ~54.74 degrees, thus removing the influence of anisotropic interactions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_angle https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_angle
- huytersd 3y agoWhen has line length ever been an issue? That 22 degree thing is hell. You can see like 5 lines, it would drive me insane.
- xxs 3y ago>When has line length ever been an issue? The early 90s - even the glorious VGA didn't have much large than 80 columns, it took VESA to bring the 132×43 text mode. Then early '00, with whoever managed to come with the extreme anti-pattern of having extremely long class names in Java, 1024x768 was not enough by far (and 800x600 was a joke).
- tecleandor 3y agoAlthough I think almost nobody follows it anymore, Python's PEP-8 still dictates lines of a maximum of 79 columns by default :D
- Nition 3y agoThe article is just for fun, I'm sure it's not their real daily setup.
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- anonymous344 3y agois this a joke? I have 2 to 4 monitors for full stack web dev (win10) and having separate monitors instead of 1 big one is just 100% win
- AndroTux 3y agoNo, this article is 100% serious. I just tried it and it really works.
- littlecranky67 3y ago+1 for team separate monitors for webdev. Although I am on macOS, I use 2x 24" (with thin bezels put next to each other) plus laptop screen. The handling of the OS "window manager" is just smoother for separate screens as opposed to ultra wide: separate workspaces per screen, shortcuts (via BTT) to move windows to a specific screen and maximize etc. Too bad apple decided that using two external monitors is a "pro" feature and requires at least an "Pro" M1/M2/M3 processor. Even though my 2x 24" run at 1080p and I have been using them every since with my original MacbookPro from 2014 without issues...
- TylerE 3y agoUse the free square app and you can set up key combos for all your window management.
- littlecranky67 3y agowith my existing better touch tool setup? How does square replace the multiple workspaces in Mission Control? Etc. Plus, what is the URL for that app? "square app macos" google returns vastly different/unrelated results.
- anonymous344 3y agoI've used mbpro ~2018 before and must say that wtf was going on when apple decided that multiple monitors is pro feature... I have windows pc and have been using 4 monitors with it for years, and with windows laptop 3 is smooth.. Osx still has really weird functionalities when it comes to multi-monitor setup. Like it was not meant to be used more than 1 monitor
- tuananh 3y ago> So this here I think is the best monitor orientation for software development. It provides the longest line lengths and no longer need to worry about that pesky 80 column limit. Author optimized for this metrics. If you dont need this, no need to try :D
- imiric 3y agoIf the author is serious, and works in a team, they would still need to worry about that "pesky" line length limit, though. I really don't get the argument against short line lengths, and that they're somehow a relic of old display resolutions. I find them genuinely helpful. Having to glance horizontally to read code is suboptimal compared to keeping my eyes fixed on a relatively narrow block. Being able to fit more documents open side-by-side without arbitrary line breaks is always helpful, especially when merging, even on ultrawide displays. This is why I still prefer shorter lengths, and try to keep it near the traditional 80 as much as possible. I compromise when working in a team and if someone has a different preference, but I never got the appeal, honestly.
- wakeupcall 3y agoAgree. Shorter lines are more readable the same way narrow paragraphs in multi-column layouts are more readable, as it's easier to follow to the next line. I'm not strict on the 80 column rule. Readability for code is a balance in intent for me first and foremost, but I also do try to keep lengths close to it. I used to follow 2 source files side-by-side easily on a 16:10 monitor. I'm struggling to do that on my 16:9 now due to how long the lines are on my current codebase with a regular editor. Comparisons are hourly occurrences for me. Long lines require scrolling or word-wrapping, either of which is just horrific. If I try the same on github, which wastes even more horizontal space, two source files are barely fitting side-by-side even with 80 columns. I'm kind of surprised authors writing these long lines, which also will review those long lines in the future, and not put off by the inconvenience they're doing to themselves.
- user_7832 3y agoOn a similar note, I once again wish more displays were 3:2, and more people knew about it. The human central (not peripheral) vision’s ratio is very close to 3:2, yet due to economics of scale 16:9 is marginally cheaper and much more common. And if someone is wondering, no, rotating 16:9 vertically for more vertical space doesn’t help because it makes it very narrow - for me IMO a square display would be the best. (There are also minor subpixel rendering issues, along with viewing angle issues if using a TN panel but those are still more minor.)
- mgoetzke 3y agoA reason why i liked the SurfaceBook so much. Their aspect ratio was near perfect. Now I am back to MBP which comes second
- kookamamie 3y agoYawn. Get on with the times. I've been using ultrawide (21:9) for years, and would definitely not want to go back to peeking through a square'ish hole.
- user_7832 3y agoUW is fine if you’ve got a 28” or more desktop (or maybe larger even), but I’d take a 28” 3:2 like the Huawei Mateview over a 28” UW any day of the week. The UW probably has 20 or 30% lesser screen area.
- wtallis 3y agoUltrawides only start to make sense at about 34" and up, corresponding to 1440 pixels vertically. Anything less than that would be worthless for productivity (ie. not movies or first-person gaming) given today's UI trends of massive horizontal bars/ribbons sized for small touchscreens. Likewise, a monitor in portrait usually needs to be at least 1200(w)x1920(h) (ie. a 24" 16:10) to be usable for browsing today's web without getting served up a mobile-specific layout too often. A reasonably-sized 1080p display in portrait can be great for stuff like text editors and terminal windows.
- Justsignedup 3y agoI love this. It reminds me of the two vs 4 spaces. And some dude will inevitably say 3 spaces fuck you. My point is... We need this in the office so that every time I turn on video chat I have to explain why I'm slanted.
- teekert 3y agoI think a servo motor should be behind the screen and it should rotate depending on whether I look up or down or sideways. Added benefit: if you spin the screen fast enough you get a circular display! Of course this means you have to precisely time screen refresh rates and invent a new type of rotation resistant power and video cable.
- rypskar 3y ago>>invent a new type of rotation resistant power and video cable That should not be difficult, plug cables into the base instead of directly into the screen and have circular donut shaped plates connecting the base and the screen instead of cables. The plates do of course have to have a spring to put the correct pressure to give a good connection even after some wear on the plates
- imp0cat 3y agoAuto-rotating wallmounts are a thing! https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/television-home-theater-accessories/televisions/55-65-auto-rotating-wall-mount-400x300-vesa-vg-arab43wmtza/ https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/televisi...
- LASR 3y agoTangentially related thought: Take my advice, don't go ultra-wide. Go with a large 4k. You get more pixels for cheaper. The only ultrawide that makes any sense is the 5k x 2k resolution one. These have more pixels than a single 4K. But they are expensive. Even then, a 16:9 5K monitor has more pixels. I personally use 3 x 27 inch 4K - which is cheaper than a single 5k Ultra-wide and gives you a TON more pixels.
- fennecbutt 3y ago5kx2k replaces 2x4k monitors basically. I have a 1440 ultra wide and it's been great, for gaming and dev, 2 windows side by side is basically like having two separate monitors, but with the ability to have like 0.25,0.5,0.25 window layout if I really want. I do need to upgrade it at some point, I think it's easy to justify the higher price of a high res uw given that it's a replacement for two monitors, not one.
- danieldisu 3y agoAlways focus on PPI, some rough numbers 27” 5k (5120 x 2880) -> 218 PPI 32” 4k (3840 x 2160) -> 137.68 PPI 34” 5k (5120 x 2160) -> 163.44 PPI 39,7 5K (5120 x 2160) -> 139.97 PPI Apple Pro Display XDR 32" 6k (6016 x 3384) -> 218 PPI
- Kuraj 3y agoPPI doesn't translate to screen estate, though
- notorandit 3y agoAnd too many PPI won't make text easier to read, unless you magnify the screen, thus actually loosing PPIs. PPIs will display sharper pictures, provided that they have enough quality.
- vladvasiliu 3y agoThe text is sharper with a higher PPI even if the actual size of the text is the same. I have a 4k 24" screen, and text is much much sharper than on any FHD 24". Hell, it's noticeably sharper even than on my 14" FHD laptop. And sharper text helps with legibility, so I find I can actually use smaller font sizes more comfortably than the "regular" size on a lower-res screen. You don't get more real estate, indeed, since that depends on zoom level. However, depending on your setup and habits, you may actually gain some. In my case, I use 4k at 100% zoom. I don't care for window decorations, interface icons and so on, so it's not an issue if they're small.
- johmue 3y agoyou sir, should go to prison for your crimes :)
- pxtail 3y agoI'm using 3 monitors currently (one vertical) and I'm used to utilizing keyboard shortcuts for moving windows between screens - for example I can move window onto vertical screen and then into bottom half of it, all using keyboard. The question for people using single ultrawide screen instead of multiples - is something like this possible to achieve? are you able to define virtual "regions" on the screen space to move windows there?
- zakary 3y agoYes you can. On Mac keyboard maestro will do exactly that. On windows it’s Autohotkey.
- crogre 3y agoSure, you can use xrandr to create virtual monitors. Works great with i3 at least!
- tuzemec 3y agoI'm using Rectangle[1] on Mac for this. But Raycast also has some functionality in that direction. [1] - https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/
- JoachimS 3y agoThis triggers my OCD! Esp having a single degree off.
- CrzyLngPwd 3y agoI have three 2160x3840 27inch screens in a H layout, with the side screens vertical. I use FancyZones windows PowerToy to create drop zones on the side screens, and so can just drop terminals/slack/browser windows there. It's been a transformative layout for coding and managing machines.
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- JoachimS 3y agoThe multiple screen setup from Swordfish is starting to feel old. https://www.reddit.com/r/geek/comments/1ds9en/from_the_movie_swordfish_i_still_wish_i_could/ https://www.reddit.com/r/geek/comments/1ds9en/from_the_movie...
- ulrischa 3y agoI use one 90 degree and one 0 degree
- sirsinsalot 3y agoI've had 3 monitor setups for decades. Then I got an ultra wide Samsung CRG9 at 49" and 5120x1440... Which was terrible. Too wide and not tall enough. Now I have the LG 40WP95C-W at 40" and 5120x2160 and it is perfect. Especially with window tiling that does thirds well.
- LegitShady 3y agoI've been using the CRG9 for 3 years without issue. I use fancyzones to create 3 "window" areas - a thin chat window, the main middle window, and a side research/reference/video window. When I'm not working it makes for amazing ultrawide gaming. A video card to push the resolution is actually possible without a new mortgage. I don't understand the whole too wide thing tbh. Only thing I wish is that it had better HDR with more zones, but it was a pretty early example of this kind of thing I think so can't have everything. Maybe if I find an LG c2/c3 43" OLED for a good price I'll get that instead, but for now this thing is awesome enough.
- sirsinsalot 3y agoI just found I spent more time battling the aspect ratio than anything else. It isn't that it was too wide (though it was, for me) ... it's that it wasn't tall enough (pixel wise) for the width. This meant I never quite had enough height for ANY comfortable IDE/document/web usage. Being able to have 4 or 5 non-ideal height windows side-by-side was just 4 or 5 times as annoying for me. The LG solves all the issues I had with the Samsung. I get the same width in pixels, in a smaller dimension (so reduced head movement) and I get more pixel height. For those benefits, as I am not a gamer, I happily sold the CRG9 and accepted lower (but still fine on the eyes) refresh rates. Couldn't be happer. I used the CRG9 for a few years, it had to go.
- JoshTriplett 3y agoWhile this article presents it in a humorous way, some air traffic control systems actually do use a diagonally rotated screen, with that "long line" being lined up with the primary approach to the airport. The setup I got to observe involved large displays that worked with stylus input. These weren't ultra-widescreen displays; they were relatively standard aspect-ratio displays, rotated at an angle.
- bobowzki 3y agoI would love to see a photo of this setup.
- greggsy 3y agoI just scrolled through half a dozen ATC tower tour videos on YouTube and didn't see any skewed displays, but it's possible that they 1) they tidied it up for the tour, or 2) they just didn't apply this approach in those particular sites. I'm still very interested to see this novel application.
- mike256 3y agoI think most replaced them with ultra wide screens
- marcosdumay 3y agoI've been in a few airport towers in Brazil, and never seen a diagonal screen. It may be a regional thing, or a small clique. Or it may be best for some software that is long gone.
- bobowzki 3y agoReally, I would be pretty interested to hear your story. I've been a lot to Brazil.
- marcosdumay 3y ago
- jeffrallen 3y agoAnother example of "Wayland breaks everything". I mean, come on, 2021 and it can't even arbitrarily transform the screen with matrixes?" /s
- flexagoon 3y agoTo be fair, since Wayland allows nested sessions, you can probably implement a Wayland compositor that can only display a single app full-screen with a given rotation, and then use that to launch any other Wayland session (eg. gnome)
- krisoft 3y agoI don’t know about the ideal orientation, but i prefer my monitor to not spin relative to my desk. :) Which of course means that it should slowly rotate around once a day to keep it in sync with the Earth (when seen from an innertial fixed coordinate system). But that made me think. Maybe the optimal solution is one with a circular table (rotating in sync with the Earth, thus appearing motionless) and a monitor which spins around the normal axis of the table to force me to chase it around. Maybe it could have different tempo settings. A slow one which makes the user reposition every half an hour or so, a faster one for cardio, and an even faster one for volumetric persistence of vision applications.
- camillomiller 3y agoThe visual disorder this creates would kill my productivity INSTANTLY.
- reqo 3y agoI am sorry but is that a password on the pink post-it note?
- quickthrower2 3y agoNothing to see here, just Azure’s storage master encryption key or something.
- timeinput 3y agoLooks like base64 text but when I run `echo aHVudGVyMgo= | base64 -d` the output is just `*******` weird.
- yonrg 3y agoI love that
- notorandit 3y agoI use two monitors. A 28" UHD for running the code editor and (sometimes) a few terminals. A 24" FHD for one or two browsers. They are set side-to-side, not aligned to somwhow mimic curved displays. They are set at 0 degrees.
- amelius 3y agoWhat is the correct terminology for "monitor rotation"? I want a monitor that can rotate, but using "rotation" as a keyword does not bring up many relevant results.
- gfiorav 3y agoprogrammers will literally rotate their screen 22 degrees instead of embracing the 79 columns limit
- KronisLV 3y agoRight now, I have four 16:9 monitors at 1080p each. Previously I used some of them in vertical orientation which is great for reading code, but window snapping used to be a bit weird sometimes. It's not too much of a problem on Linux, but on Windows I absolutely needed FancyZones: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzones https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzon... (hold SHIFT and drag window to snap, supports custom zones, like vertically splitting a monitor into two etc.) As for larger resolution monitors, I had one at work and it was nice, but my own GPU would struggle with most fullscreen stuff and games in my free time, so maybe 1080p isn't all that bad (especially when wanting to record something without downsampling or struggling with DPI making things unreadable at anything below 1080p in the video file).
- tbyehl 3y agoI wasn't aware that PowerToys had that, so thanks for pointing it out. In general I've been satisfied with the built-in Snap feature but since getting a 49" 32:9 1440p monitor I've been wishing the 3-column options offered horizontal splits.
- user_7832 3y ago> I've been wishing the 3-column options offered horizontal splits If you’re referring to the PowerToys feature, you can customise your own layout too btw
- bhouston 3y agoI just purchased a 48" monitor as my primary monitor. No need to worry about rotation, I just have a massive screen in front of me. I think that for some people people are scared of large monitors in front of them, but once you use one, you realize that using small monitors (e.g. 27 or 32") in single or dual or triple arrangements is just ridiculous complex. One big monitor is way way better. Large monitors are the future, it is just that people are not yet comfortable buying them for some reason.
- sapiogram 3y agoMight be an issue of software support, it just "feels" easier to have two monitors instead of using one monitor as two. Related: what's your window management setup?
- bhouston 3y agoI am on MacOS so I use RectanglePro. Simple but it works. My main layout is 3 vertical panels, one with vscode, one with web browser and debugger and the last is utility (another vscode or browser or slack or discord etc.)
- codingdave 3y agoI've got a 48" monitor, too. I also have 2 27" monitors, one one each side in portrait mode. But I'm not sure why you think multiple monitors is complex - plug them in, drag windows over to the side as needed, and go about your work.
- aldanor 3y agoI had 2x27'' at work for years and now I have 1x49'' at home. Main difference is, on the 49 I can place a single 27''-sized window in the centre.
- bhouston 3y agoI mean managing space on small multiple screens. The technical aspects are not complex but having to manage a small amount of screeen real estate is annoying, especially across multiple screens.
- downboots 3y agoUpgrade: attach accelerometer to monitor and have it update as you rotate it
- davidy123 3y agoI haven't seen this config mentioned yet, but I have two displays; a LG SDQHD 28" 8:9 2560x2880 on the left, and a LG 49" 21:9 55120x2160 ultrawide curved on the right, with a slight angle joining them in a "hinge." I use multiple virtual desktops, for dev I have a terminal on the left and the IDE on the right. This was the best config I could find where I had enough on the screens I didn't need to flip between panes frequently, yet it wasn't overwhelming and lets the actual window view behind the displays through, and I can comfortably focus on key areas and look around with craning my neck too much. If the displays were backing a wall, I might try an 8k 65" display, but I would mainly use the comfortable part of it, and let the rest be ambient info. That could be magnificent with an OLED display. Though I think it would make sense to be curved and they aren't common anymore. Who knows, maybe a VR headset will be a better choice in a few years. I've been working a lot on the idea of ambient info. I use KDE's html wallpaper feature to provide a dynamic graph view of my environment.
- Bellyache5 3y agoI would love to see a picture of your setup.
- davidy123 3y agoSure, https://i.imgur.com/drvwqhj.png https://i.imgur.com/drvwqhj.png The displays are connected to a workstation. I use barrier between the systems (except the right hand locked down one). Like anything else it's a constant work in progress, but I'm fairly happy with it.
- stopyellingatme 3y agoThis is pretty much my exact setup and I love it. One ultrawide with an LG DualUp on the side. Highly recommend.
- vermaden 3y agoIts just another Xorg/X11 feature that overrated Wayland does not have. It works the same on FreeBSD and Illumos - its not limited to Linux in any way. Below example from my http://vermaden.wordpress.com/freebsd-desktop http://vermaden.wordpress.com/freebsd-desktop setup. - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GChSlZHXIAEgT8T?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GChSlZHXIAEgT8T?format=jpg&name=... - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GChSlbFWUAA0x6G?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GChSlbFWUAA0x6G?format=jpg&name=... Regards, vermaden
- tchaffee 3y agoWho is overrating Wayland?
- petecooper 3y agoSince we're sharing… I use 3x Dell P2715Q in portrait mode, side by side, 1440 × 2560 for an equivalent resolution of 4320 × 2560 (27:16), at a stand up IKEA Jerker desk.
- pcx 3y agoThis is really neat! Loved it
- Brian_K_White 3y agoHah, before looking at the link I was going to say two monitors, one over the other, top turned 45° clockwise, bottom 45° ccw, forming a big ">". You know, to fit the huge nest. :)
- hahamaster 3y agoEver since I got presbyopia a couple of years back, I have lost tolerance for large screens. You constantly have to move yourself to have things in focus. Alt-tabbing on a smaller screen is much easier.
- kkfx 3y agoI've had a handful of setups, a classic single monitor from 4:3, then 16:10, than 16:9 and now 21:9. I've added a second vertical monitor, two twin large vertical, main vertical, secondary horizontal... Well in the end I'm happy enough with a single 21:9 FLAT WQHD. Game devs might not like the aspect ratio, but with EXWM, Firefox with tab-center reborn, casual simple split view etc it's good enough. I prefer avoid curved ones because they feel strange if we are not "at the right distance" and I like to be distant a bit and I use a standing desk with a magnetic treadmill for the standing part so my distance vary, but the real conclusion is: a good monitor is a LARGE one. Rotation does not matter much if the overall dimensions are large enough.
- qwerty456127 3y agoWhatever a diagonal rotation essentially is the same like using a big display of classic aspect ratio with two corners blocked. What is the benefit of not having these corners present? Why not just buy a 45-inch 4k display, put it right in front of you (instead of a TV-like distance) and use it with 100% (or close to it, maybe also tweak some fonts) scaling? I actually do it this way and I fail to understand how can a wide&low display placed diagonally feel better.
- HarHarVeryFunny 3y agoIf you've got an ultra wide monitor, maybe spin it and go for persistence of vision effect and a huge circular display? Could double as a fan to help spread all the heat generated by the GPU having to redraw it nonstop!
- mrblampo 3y agoMade me laugh out loud
- Y_Y 3y agoOne day such a thing might be so common that society will be forced to invent an abbreviation for that
- lanternfish 3y agoAnd maybe even one day, the abbreviation will become so ubiquitous that it becomes divorced in practice from the original referent.
- Y_Y 3y agoLol
- riwsky 3y agothis hertz to think about
- fudged71 3y agoThere was a “spinning gaming monitor” on my YouTube feed just a few days ago: https://youtu.be/J6P3o6zrqsc?si=NUB7YviQNYoSW7Vi https://youtu.be/J6P3o6zrqsc?si=NUB7YviQNYoSW7Vi
- HarHarVeryFunny 3y agoNeat, but imagine the sheer fear factor of a 34" ultrawide monitor whipping around at 60Hz 18" in front of your face!
- intrasight 3y agoThis hits home as an topic of interest. Last week, I build a new workstation. Now I am confronted with the monitor decision. My current workstation has side by side 24" 1920x1200 Things I'm considering: Stick with side by side 24" 1920x1200 - Asus PA248QV ~$400 total Two LG DualUp ~$1000 total One 5k2k such as Dell U4021QW or LG 40WP95C-W ~$1800 total One UHD 4K like LG OLED 48GQ90B-B ~$900 While I'm accustomed to the gap between my two monitors, I've never much liked it. The Asus gap will be smaller than with my current Dell. But I do like having each computer "full screen". With one big monitor I loose the gap but I also end up with computers that float in the space of that large monitor. Not sure if that'll bug me. While 1200px height is enough most of the time, I do want more - like 50% more would be great. Much of my work is RDP based. I just Googled to find that the maximum vertical resolution is 2048, which is less than the DualUp vertical resolution. Is Google correct? Curious how others resolved these competing visions (pun intended).
- tom_ 3y agoFor whatever it's worth, I often use my work PC via the default Windows 10 Remote Desktop client on my laptop (old 15" Macbook Pro, running Windows via Boot Camp): 1 x 2880x1800 hi-DPI display, 2 x normal-DPI 1440x2560 portrait displays. Remote Desktop seems to have no problem using every pixel. A lot of stuff does get confused by the mixed-DPI setup, but it's not obviously different from running the same programs locally.
- geocrasher 3y agoIn the last year, I've gone from 1x portrait 24" next to 2x landscape 24"'s on top of each other, all 1080p Then switched to 1x 35" UWQHD 3440x1440 curved and 1x 24" 1080p monitor Then was gifted the Mother Of All Monitors. 43" 3840x2160. The only thing it misses is a slight curve. Still, it's incredible. The 43" 4K monitor is essentially an endless combination of portrait and landscape monitors. Window size/shape no longer matters. Try it. You'll like it.
- stratigos 3y agoIs this article satire? Do people actually make naive assumptions that line-length limits in code relate to screen sizes?
- jimbobthrowawy 3y agoThank goodness. I was wondering how to achieve this when I first started messing around with xrandr back in ~2016 and saw that the rotation option wasn't limited to the four orthogonal directions, but would get a black screen any time I went for something unsquare. Didn't know you had to mark out the edges. Another fun xrandr feature is not needing to have your display areas touch at the edges, so you can make your screens space accurate and lose your cursor and parts of windows behind bezels. You can have them overlap too, so you could have part of your screen shown on multiple displays. I'm glad this functionality wasn't hampered by questions of necessity.
- javier_e06 3y agoThe irony in my case is that I have a 4k 32" where my window apps live in the center of the monitor never maximized and the stickies go on the 2 black bands on each side. It makes for a 3D texture monitor with task and reminders that I pull off and crush with my hand.
- jvolkman 3y agoOne 43" 4K monitor (or TV) has been my go-to for the last 4 years. Plenty of screen real estate without the physical limitations of dual monitors in different orientations. And at 43/42 inches, PPI is just right for me - no scaling necessary.
- FractalHQ 3y agoHave high res TV makers solved the gnarly input lag problem?
- jvolkman 3y agoIt hasn't been an issue in my experience. rtings.com rates input lag on tvs (as well as how well they work as monitors). Most modern units have game mode and/or PC mode which I assume disables some processing to drive down lag. On my LG C2 OLED, changing the input type to "PC" results in a visible flicker (just one flicker) when the display is shifting into some new mode.
- seanp2k2 3y agoReally wish we had options for 16:10 and 4:3 monitors in 4k-8k resolutions in 2024. Personally, I think the ultimate monitor is somewhere around 36” wide with a ~1.6x “golden ratio” (aka 16:10) so around 22-24” tall (for reference, a 42” 16:9 TV is about 36.6Wx20.6H; 16x10 would be 35.6Wx22.3H; 4:3 would be 33.6Wx25.2H). Right now I’ve got a 55” LG G1 OLED and it’s nice at 4K120hz, but ideally it’d be 8K120hz and a little smaller in width. It seems like it wouldn’t be too terribly hard to make such a panel using an 8K 55” screen as a starting point, then just omit a few inches of width. Ooh, and please make it a 10-bit (or 12 but there I’m really dreaming) 4:4:4 120hz native panel. Upon returning to the office for a few days a couple of months back, I noticed that my desk had been moved and I was given a standard setup with a 21:9 curved ultra wide 60hz Samsung. I HATE it. I have no idea what kind of person thinks these are superior. It can’t open two A4-size PDFs next to each other, and with macOS menu bar and dock (even auto-hide), toolbars in IDEs, terminals, and browsers took up far too much of the screen. Add to that the tendency of most websites these days to add their own pointless toolbars and cookie warnings and subscribe junk and again I just don’t see who would enjoy this for any type of work or gaming. I’ve tried dual portrait, I’ve tried quad, I’ve tried triple-wide with 1920x1200 16:10s as my “curved” setup way back in the late 2000s, and I still think that one single large high-res high-quality FLAT monitor is the way to go, hence my current LG setup. Everything else feels like it’s missing a piece. Multiple monitors just means bezels in your view and even though support is tons better now than it was a dozen years ago, toolbars and OS trays / docks still need some helper software to work really well across multiple monitors, especially where n>2.
- CodeWriter23 3y ago43” 4K landscape main 30” portrait 1600x2560 next to it