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Rarbg Is No More
- pantulis 3y agoFrom the released note: > Some are also fighting the war in Europe - ON BOTH SIDES What an absurd tragedy this is. I think it bears mention between all this conversation about sharing torrents.
- bazmattaz 3y agoYes my heart broke reading this. Likely two young people who worked together around a common goal. All be it illegal. Now they’re hiding in bunkers and told to shoot each other if needed. Such a tragedy. Fuck Putin
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- aigoochamna 3y agoI wonder how much it costs to run? I can't imagine it's too crazy.. data can be stored/cached easily and access is random and has some hot spots (recent torrents). Seems like it would be fairly cheap to run?
- sktrdie 3y agoWhy don't torrent site owners just release their sites as a torrent file itself? Like a sqlite dump with search indexes? They could either self-update the torrent [1] or just release the new torrent via forums/groups/chats etc. Would bring the costs down to zero. 1. http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html
- traverseda 3y agoBecause they make money off of ads and people who have the skills and resources to do that without profit motive also probably are afraid of getting entangled in legal battles.
- sktrdie 3y agoFrom the announcement doesn't seem like they were making money?
- traverseda 3y agoPretty sure I remember there being ads.
- krzyk 3y agoPirate bay does that.
- Lammy 3y agoIt's not just the site. RARBG themselves were responsible for many of the video encodes, hence the "RARBG_DO_NOT_MIRROR.exe" included in many of them: https://torrentfreak.com/rarbg-adds-exe-files-to-torrents-but-no-need-to-panic-190126/ https://torrentfreak.com/rarbg-adds-exe-files-to-torrents-bu...
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- k5hp 3y agoLet's hope the same doesn't happen to Rutracker.
- chromoblob 3y agoRutracker seems to have big ad revenue (just look at the ads and how popular it is). Also, Rutracker administrators seem quite serious to me (I compare the feeling I get from observing elaborate upload post format requirements, massive forum structure, important size of dedicated wiki on Rutracker and the feeling I get after reading the linked announcement).
- expertentipp 3y agoThank you RARBG team, you were the awesome part of the internet. Hope the crises will end favorably in the months to come.
- tejohnso 3y agoThey just abandoned it and closed? Why no handoff? Why no appeal for funding? Or even a warning?
- mxmilkiib 3y agoA reminder that if you're using qBittorrent there is an in-client torrent search tab you can enable.
- oliwarner 3y agoThis seems to use EliteTorrent (by default) which has a strong bias towards Spanish language content. There might be other reasons to use qBittorrent, but if you don't want to switch, you could just use that. https://github.com/iordic/qbittorrent-search-plugins/blob/master/engines/elitetorrent.py https://github.com/iordic/qbittorrent-search-plugins/blob/ma...
- mxmilkiib 3y agoYou want https://github.com/qbittorrent/search-plugins/wiki/Unofficial-search-plugins https://github.com/qbittorrent/search-plugins/wiki/Unofficia...
- crazygringo 3y agoWow. Between Mullvad removing port forwarding 2 days ago ago [1] and now this, easy safe fast torrenting just got a bit harder. Talk about a one-two punch. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36113215 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36113215
- no_time 3y ago2007 - 2023 RIP Is there a successful tracker founded after 2010? With all these old sites and their experienced crew quitting, things are not looking good for the long term of warez. The only one that comes to mind is the .si reboot of nyaa.se.
- appleaday1 3y agoIt's always sad news when something that is widely used by people goes down.
- unicornmama 3y agoSomeone should setup a torrent website on one of these decentralized blockchain technologies.
- qersist3nce 3y agoSorry to see it go. While we are at it, an honest question: Why should _anyone_ undertake the legal risk, monetary cost and development time burden for maintaining a public tracker? What would release teams gain from setting up encoding pipelines and upholding their networking infrastructure?
- Shish2k 3y agoGotta have a hobby ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I wonder if The Scene is still remotely accurate by modern standards — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIs_5nfJKu4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIs_5nfJKu4
- a1369209993 3y ago> Why should _anyone_ undertake the legal risk, monetary cost and development time burden for maintaining a public tracker? Try a more extreme example: why should anyone undertake the legal risk, monetary cost and logistical hassle of hiding Jews from the SS? It's not some psychopathic business decision; it's because some people stubbornly insist on doing the right thing despite it being unpopular, illegal, and clearly a bad idea. If someone does manage to turn a profit doing it that's (all else being equal) great, but it's not the point.
- SamuelAdams 3y agoBecause some people grew up poor and without much access to content. Then they learned about this thing in the 90’s called the internet where you can share information with anyone for free. So said poor person learned programming and other skills to get a tracker working so that they could give back to others who are in the same boat. This way the poor kid (who’s family can’t afford lunch, let alone a 10€ /month Disney + subscription) can chat with their rich friends at the lunch table about the latest marvel film the week it releases and god forbid, fit in for once.
- robertoandred 3y ago"Content releases" aka stolen goods
- DoItToMe81 3y agoTheir host charges 250 euro a month for 100 megabits and a one terabyte data cap. At the prices they're paying, I'm surprised this did not happen sooner.
- LordShredda 3y agoDo you have a source for that? Curious how you found out. But yeah, that's basically a scam for hosting a static website.
- DoItToMe81 3y agoSite IP is owned by Netsaap.
- smashah 3y agoThank you for your service
- ZoomerCretin 3y agoCtrl+F "covid" Phrase not found Seriously, a huge part of the internet is down because the team was taken out by Covid (both death and complications), and no one even mentions this? All the evidence points to the covid complication rate compounding with each infection. Rarbg is only the start of where we can all expect to be in 5-10 years without more serious long-term mitigations (universal indoor air filtration). https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/28/opinion/last-pandemic.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/28/opinion/last-pandemic.htm...
- gjsman-1000 3y agoThe Motion Picture Association is probably throwing free champagne around the offices and rejoicing about how that was the easiest pirate website takedown ever. Also, if I was the MPA, I would almost look into attrition tactics now, if that were legal. Create dozens and dozens and dozens of junk piracy websites with borked videos. Maybe the first half the movie in 720p, then the audio switches to Spanish and 240p black and white with flickering. Flood the market on every pirate website with the world's worst remuxes. Overwhelm them with junk so that nobody knows what tracker to trust for anything. Maybe even (with permission from rights holders) run some pirate websites with high-quality rips, then burn them to the ground after a year or two just to demoralize.
- Willish42 3y agoSeeing lots of mentions here in the comments about increased serving costs but the nature of the message sounds more like the community itself has fallen apart / lost people due to covid and war. I can't imagine the effort it must've taken to keep this site running for so long given the amount of traffic, especially during the hellish last few years. I'm sad to see them go but I support their desire to spend time and energy/resources on something else after all they've done
- rejectfinite 3y agoRelated documentary TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard https://youtu.be/eTOKXCEwo_8 https://youtu.be/eTOKXCEwo_8
- MagicMoonlight 3y agoUgh that was the only good public site
- monkaiju 3y agoTragic
- omegaworks 3y ago>some of the people in our team died due to covid complications, others still suffer the side effects of it - not being able to work at all. Long COVID is having a real impact on technical people. There's a reason Google buys COVID rapid testing kits in bulk for any of their onsite events. One of my friends working behind the scenes was gifted a grocery bag full of leftover tests. Governments around the world have largely abandoned us to a disabling virus.
- firstSpeaker 3y agoIs there is any replacement with similar clean design and availability?
- atmosx 3y agoAren't torrents legal in Spain and Switzerland?
- puskuruk 3y agoR.I.P rarbg... I'll miss you.
- lofaszvanitt 3y agoIs this the real reason or just something like Truecrypt did?
- adastra22 3y agoWhat is the best alternative? I know usually people use a seedbox + private torrent server. But which private server? RARBG was amazing because it had everything, but still curated the releases for minimum standards of quality. Is there an alternative out there?
- doublerabbit 3y agoFor educational reasons I'm going to suggest Usenet. Sure you have to pay $ for a few providers to obtain most 100% but it has everything that torrent has if not more. Not as convenient but you do get decent download speeds and if parts are broken you can normally repair with PAR2 which itself is alien tech. Provider backbone/list: https://svgshare.com/i/oti.svg https://svgshare.com/i/oti.svg
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- double2helix 3y agoFor those questioning how websites can still illegally operate torrenting movies, the answer is very simple. It costs a lot of money and resources for the FBI and/or other federal agency to prosecute someone, let alone post adjudication costs ie: probation officers. The feds just don't care to waste time with search warrants over a menial crime. They tried a few years back just simply mailing fines to people. But quickly realized they couldn't prove guilt without spending more money than it's worth. Also movie makers don't care to push the issue with law enforcement anymore. They (unfortunately for law abiding folks) just inflate the price to make up for lost, just like stores do to combat shoplifting.
- alwayslikethis 3y agoMovie makers aren't losing that much, if at all. It is ridiculous to assume that had piracy not been available, the pirates would pay them the full price for the content. Imagine I operate this web app free of charge that gets 1 million monthly active users, and I think to myself, if I start charging $2 per month, I'd be making $2m a month. This doesn't work because if I charge money, people would try to find less expensive options, so I would be getting way less than $2m. Piracy also contributes significantly to the general promulgation of the content into the culture, which may offset some of the profit that is lost. And no, screwing over legit customers by charging more, DRM, or whatever bullshit like that isn't going to win over more people.
- paulmd 3y agoIs there an archive of the tracked torrents available?
- nipperkinfeet 3y agoThis is a sad news! What is going on? Really, this week has been a disaster.
- smeagull 3y agoHuh. I wonder what it was.
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- defrost 3y agoOf Interest: RARBG magnet link archive: https://torrentfreak.com/rarbg-over-267000-movie-tv-show-magnet-links-appear-online-230601/ https://torrentfreak.com/rarbg-over-267000-movie-tv-show-mag... https://github.com/2004content/rarbg https://github.com/2004content/rarbg ( released 5 hours ago )
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- chakintosh 3y agoFor what it's worth, there is a concerted effort at r/DataHoarder to bring the site back from the dead.
- clsec 3y agoThere is now also a repository that is holding 100's of thousands of RARBG magnet links in text files [1]. The link is in the article. I'm not sure whether posting the direct link is proper here. [1] https://torrentfreak.com/rarbg-over-267000-movie-tv-show-magnet-links-appear-online-230601/ https://torrentfreak.com/rarbg-over-267000-movie-tv-show-mag...
- SergeAx 3y agoOne of the problems of RarBG was that they were dealing with real data. Today to get a popular file from bit-torrent network all one needs is a hash (AKA magnet) - DHT and other distributed announcement protocols will take care of everything else. But the moment you gotta deal with real content - you are in a big trouble both legaly and technically: todays 4K media can take up to ten gigabyte per hour of screen time. No wonder RarBG suffered that much.
- whywhywhywhy 3y agoSo much media is going to be lost once torrenting dies out.
- nubinetwork 3y agoI could have sworn that rarbg got shut down like 5 years ago... I didn't know they were still operating. Not that I use bittorrent very much personally, I gave that up many years ago. RIP, I suppose.
- bishop77 3y agoI'm interested in the art-house, non-mainstream genres, mainly produced by independent studios (e.g. one of my all-time favourites is When father was away for business, by Emir Kusturica). Do you have any suggestions for trackers specialised in these types of movies?
- noonething 3y agowhere are all these torrent sites that have been up for years and I've never heard of geez
- Avlin67 3y agoits still there ? https://rargb.to/ https://rargb.to/
- sankalp22 3y agoSad to hear, last time they took down that book website
- 0___0 3y agoHello guys, We would like to inform you that we have decided to shut down our site. The past 2 years have been very difficult for us - some of the people in our team died due to covid complications, others still suffer the side effects of it - not being able to work at all. Some are also fighting the war in Europe - ON BOTH SIDES. Also, the power price increase in data centers in Europe hit us pretty hard. Inflation makes our daily expenses impossible to bare. Therefore we can no longer run this site without massive expenses that we can no longer cover out of pocket. After an unanimous vote we've decided that we can no longer do it. We are sorry :( Bye Edit: This isn't me BTW. I just copy-pasted the text from the site. Archived link: https://web.archive.org/web/20230531105653/https://rarbg.to/index80.php https://web.archive.org/web/20230531105653/https://rarbg.to/...
- PiranhaTO 3y agoThank you for everything you've done. Your efforts did not go unnoticed and you will be greatly missed. I hope the circumstances of your lives improve and that you can find normality in these difficult times.
- Nick-Adventure 3y agoFirst, a sincere thank you for all the efforts you have done. My collection of TV shows is nothing but ION10 webrips. You will be missed. While I can respect your decision, I have to ask: Why the hell did you not choose to ask for donations or monetize the website? While there are many that cannot afford to purchase, there are plenty of hackers that could have / would have supported you.
- tokai 3y agoWhy would anyone fight on both sides? Seems ridiculous.
- netfortius 3y agoConsidering the recent events in the area previously known as Yugoslavia, and the fact that part of hosting is there, in addition to Russia - Ukraine conflict being over a year old, I'd think of other sources. ...that if we were to trust what's been publicized, of course.
- vachina 3y agoDevastating to see them go, they’re like the Apple of pirated content, oracle of only quality releases presented in a consistent manner.
- abdusco 3y agoI guess this is a reminder to support your pirated material source.
- SSLy 3y agoThank God PTP is back on a good track.
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- Klaster_1 3y agoAny advice on where to download daily MP3 scene release from now?
- KennyNON 3y agoOuh, do you know any alternative with UHD BD remuxes?
- SamuelAdams 3y agoThere are private trackers like PTP, but good luck getting in.
- petecooper 3y agoTwo DHT search engines that might be useful: https://btdig.com https://btdig.com https://bt4g.org https://bt4g.org
- qersist3nce 3y agoSo these crawl torrent indexers and provide search functionality? Do they also search private indexers?
- arsome 3y agoThey crawl the peer to peer DHT, private torrents have a flag so they do not get announced via DHT.
- SSLy 3y agoYou can't search private indexers without having account on them.
- dark-star 3y agothey are not searching the indexers, they are searching the DHT directly. Some private trackers do not set the "disallow DHT" flag, so those will be indexed as well. Most do, however, and it's impossible to scrape those without an account, yes
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- imgabe 3y agoBe careful: you want https://1337x.to/ https://1337x.to/ note 1337 not 1377
- snickerbockers 3y agowhat happens if you go to 1377?
- imgabe 3y agoinstant death
- sonofaragorn 3y agoare these safe? being clones doesn't really inspire much confidence rarbg was my go to for years :S
- wkat4242 3y agoThey're not clones. Just proxies so they are down too. This is usually done to make it harder for the courts to force providers to block these sites. Whack-a-mole.. PS: Why am I getting downvoted? Try clicking on the links, you will see the same goodbye message. Edit: Oh the first 2 do seem to be clones, now I understand. The rest are proxies though. I do think even the clones basically skived off the original's database though so I doubt they will have much going forward.
- fastball 3y agoDid you actually try any of these yourself? Some are clearly clones, and are not down.
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- mrtksn 3y agoRARBG was originally Bulgarian, like many other trackers and warez stuff. Eastern Europe - inside EU or outside of the EU - has always been major player in this scene. RIP. I'm still curious how it's possible to run such global illegal operations without being exposed or caught. How is it still possible to remain anonymous on the Internet, considering in this age the thing is very mature and well commercialised?
- phkahler 3y ago>> How is it still possible to remain anonymous on the Internet, considering in this age the thing is very mature and well commercialised? Because at the core, identity on the internet is not well defined. Authentication is a hard problem. You might wonder why it's hard, why better more secure protocols haven't emerged. Answer: that makes end to end encryption easy, among other things that give individuals too much power.
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- samstave 3y agoAI produced Obits, and death certs and detailed descriptions of the death, and then new documents produced via GPT6+ access to APIs to DMV, Embassies, etc to produce new documents sent to your new PO box in [place] etc... - deep-fake assassinations are going to be a thing... PHKahler
- themagician 3y agoThe answer to this is easier (and harder) than you might think: just don't say anything. You can get away with quite a bit just by being silent, and for longer than you'd think. A big way that people get away with things for so long is just by not answering questions. Someone says, "Is this [illegal thing] yours" and you say nothing. Now you've got to burn hours and dollars trying to prove someone owns something so that you can go after them. You'll find domains, web hosts, countries, and employees who are all onboard with the same philosophy. When everything requires a subpoena at the highest level to move something forward, it can easily take years for anything to happen at all. Some countries are known for having slow legal systems. Stack jurisdictions with slow court systems and you can start with an 18 month window before anything can happen. You've got a domain in Tonga registered to a company in another country, owned by a large company in another country owned by a trust in a third country. Often small countries with limited resources and archaic or corrupt bureaucracies. And where is it hosted? That's probably another connect the dots. And the site can change hands and then you have to start all over again. Are you going to refocus on the new owner or are you going to spend even more resources trying to track down the former owner? And any of these entities may lead to nothing more than a mule, fake person, or dead person. Sure, it's someone's fault for having inaccurate records—but who? How long has this been going on? Did they know? Was it intentional? It shouldn't be like this, but it is… what do you do now? Are you going to go after the recordkeeper too? You can do illegal shit for years or even decades if you just say nothing and respond to no one.
- xorkatoss 3y agonoooooooo, this was my go-to torrenting website, so sad :(
- doqq 3y agooh wow, sad news
- sph 3y agoo7 thank you for your service, keeping the Internet awesome and anti-corporate. Where one piracy site dies, a thousand spawn from its corpse. Maybe the media companies will eventually pull their heads out of their collective arses and quit their cartel, allowing the existence of legal, paid streaming sites a-la-Spotify with access to 99% of the repertoire. Until then, torrent is how we protest while they create more and more insular streaming services to milk people $9/mo at a time. "Piracy is almost always a service problem." — Gabe Newell (If you need a semi-private tracker that's easy to get into, try TorrentLeech. Also /r/opensignups)
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- robertoandred 3y agoI love when thieves act like they're such noble saints.
- izacus 3y agoYeah, we all love Robin Hood books. What does your comment have to do with this thread though?
- youreincorrect 3y agoUh, because it responded to a comment that wrote a bunch of 2009-era Guy Fawkes mask-wearing redditor bullshit that attempts to make piracy noble. > o7 thank you for your service (o7 would be a salute) > Where one piracy site dies, a thousand spawn from its corpse. False and nonsense, especially in 2023. > Maybe the media companies will eventually pull their heads out of their collective arses and quit their cartel... Okay, I'll stop here. I'm fine with piracy, personally. I'd prefer we just admit that you're mostly using it to download movies, music, and television shows for free. This isn't some noble fight for freedom. We're talking about watching mindless bullshit content like Star Wars, without paying for it. Piracy proponents, and comments like the one starting this thread, make it seem like we're entitled to this content. We're not. But I'll admit, I don't watch much in the way of tv or movies any more anyway, so the whole debate is lost on me. I just rolled my eyes at the ridiculous tone of that comment, like they're freedom fighters. It's self-important bullshit.
- revskill 3y agoWhat's this site for ? First time i know it.
- tokai 3y agoMedia piracy
- revskill 3y agoThanks. WHat's special about this, in comparison with other similar sites ?
- dist-epoch 3y agoPossibly the biggest one after ThePirateBay.
- SSLy 3y agoCompared to other public spaces, relatively high quality of the content curation.
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- feyes 3y agoThat's pretty devastating. This was old reliable for a long time. I could never keep up with the demands from private trackers as streaming made it so I didn't need to utilize them as much.
- dmix 3y agoAre there any private torrent sites for movies/tv that you can buy your way in without needing a seedbox?
- holoduke 3y agoCheckout sonarr and radarr together with jackett. Plenty of ways to find zillions of sites. Most dark streaming sites use these tools to fully automate everything
- paintballboi07 3y agoYep. Although, I'd recommend prowlarr instead of jackett. Integrates with the other arr apps much better.
- drexlspivey 3y agoLast I checked you can get in IPTorrents and HDTorrents with a donation. Still need to maintain your ratio but you can also boost your upload with donations.
- bsaul 3y agoi was always skeptical on people saying that torrentz are a symptom of bad legal streaming services.. Well, i recently got myself a videoprojector with an android tv included, and since i happen to have an amazon prime account, i installed the app, which is quite good. And yes, it's true, since i've done that, my torrentz usage has dramatically dropped..
- George83728 3y agoStreaming is a content ghetto. 9 times out of 10, none of the streaming websites have the media I'm looking for. When I visit friends and family and am made to sit down with their streaming services and find something to watch, it always turns into a disaster of everybody sitting on the couch browsing the various catalogue on their phones, discovering that no service has whatever movie somebody just thought of and suggested. If you treat streaming like old cable television; you turn it on then decide what you want to watch from what is available, I guess it might seem fine to you. But if you try to decide what you want to watch first, treating streaming as a means to an end rather than the end itself, then streaming is unmitigated trash.
- rightbyte 3y agoDeciding a movie and then look for it on streaming sites is hopeless. Just rent it on a pay to view site if they don't want to download via torrents.
- jeroenhd 3y agoI got myself Amazon prime, logged in on my computer, and found out I can only watch 480p video because of DRM shenanigans. The app on my TV is no longer supported (TV doesn't run Android), my phone is rooted (Xiaomi stopped making updates after two years) so I sometimes can't even find the app in Google Play let alone play decent quality video and the Chromecast app is a buggy mess. So yeah, I went back to torrents after that. All of my problems disappeared when I just had an MP4 file I could play anywhere. I'm still paying my subscription but they can take my 1080p video from my cold dead hands.
- Sharply2703 3y agoAny other places that do find by imdb code or similar? That was the best feature here, with the TV show seasons grouped together.
- KoftaBob 3y agoThis is the torrent search engine I've been using lately, works reliably and has a clean UI: https://bitsearch.to/ https://bitsearch.to/
- sampa 3y agopity seems like rutracker.org (ex torrents.ru) is gonna outlive everybody
- jamesy0ung 3y agorutracker is amazing. I've had no problems with the stuff I download from there (games, movies, books and software) and they also have some super niche stuff as well. Rip RARGB
- jackspratts 3y agophenomenal site. while the content is upped by users the fact that multiple rips were found on the same page; SDR, HDR, HDR10, 264, 265, 720, 1080, 2160, dubbed, original, theatrical cuts, director's, producer's etc. was all on the brilliant, dedicated folks of rarbgtor and is what made the site the best in the world. nothing else even approaches it. like OiNk wiithout the drama. i'll remember the time spent there with gratitude and fondness. and I just installed two more 20TB drives, less than 18 hours ago... - js.
- ArfathKhalid 3y agoFirst heart break was when Kickass was taken down.. Now this. I am literally too sad over a website than my other life choices lol.. Love you RARBG team, will miss you till death. Good luck in your life's.
- OGITH 3y ago[flagged]
- defrost 3y agoElsewhere: Iconic Torrent Site RARBG Shuts Down, All Content Releases Stop https://torrentfreak.com/iconic-torrent-site-rarbg-shuts-down-all-content-releases-stop-230531/ https://torrentfreak.com/iconic-torrent-site-rarbg-shuts-dow... RARBG, one of the world's largest torrent sites, has said "farewell" to millions of users. The site, which was a prominent and stable source of new movie and TV show releases, cited a variety of reasons behind its decision to cease operations. The surprise shutdown marks the end of an era. Founded in 2008, RARBG evolved to become a key player in the torrent ecosystem. The site didn’t only attract millions of monthly visitors from all over the globe, it was also a major release hub, bridging the gap between the Scene and the broader pirate public. ... etc.
- mdrzn 3y agoDamn RARBG was the GOAT lately, it had more stuff than TPB. Guess I'll have to subscribe to a USENET after all.
- pengster 3y agoso sad to read this - I know it's probably too late but if its a money question as they stated on the site, I would pay for it to remain!
- robertoandred 3y agoYou'd pay for the ability to steal?
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- getcrunk 3y agoTorrenting is not stealing. Stealing implies preventing the original owner use of the item
- robertoandred 3y agoSure, whatever you have to tell yourself.
- taopai 3y agoI am not technical so maybe this questions sound stupid. But this topic really interests me. I read that Rarbg was like thepiratebay but safer. I guess that's due to moderation to check which torrents are safe, right? This people had a website that offered a nice UI to find torrents. Did they had ads to make money? So they offered their services to maintain healthy piracy in exchange of money and also to pay servers. (I am not criticize or judging I just want to understand how it worked) Would It be possible to share the same website using a torrent file? Like shipping and actualizing the website and sending to users trough torrent so they can search it locally? Or send a sql database and then create a UI for users to search trough it? Or would be complications because torrenting exposes our ip?
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y agoSites can't be offered as torrents, because generally torrents are immutable once they have been created. You can't say "oops, that version of the file is wrong" and start offering the new version within that same torrent swarm. However, there was an update to the protocol, BEP44, that did allow you to update the already-in-progress torrent. Furthermore, there is a protocol called WebTorrent that swaps out some of the other base protocols for WebRTC, allowing a web browser to participate in the torrents. You could just include a link to the library via CDN. The trouble of course is that bittorrent now relies on DHT more and more (you wouldn't want to have to run a tracker, if you did it'd just be a target of legal attacks)... and WebTorrent can't do DHT (of any variety) well. There was a proposal to allow browsers to be able to do native network sockets, but I think that got turned down by Mozilla (maybe they were more concerned with doing VPN ads or something). But if you had that, then yes, it might be possible to have something like a "swarmsite" that didn't need to be hosted.
- sktrdie 3y agoTorrents are immutable but they could just give us new torrents (with updated indexes) via chats/forums/etc. Then thanks to https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0038.html https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0038.html we can just download the diff.
- BLKNSLVR 3y agoI mean, it did take a pandemic, war, and rampant global inflation to finally kill it. Testament to the resilience it showed throughout its lifetime. I think it's somewhat poetic that it was unrelated to law enforcement pressure.
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- pdimitar 3y agoWhat a shame. They could have asked for donations but me as an Eastern European, I get it -- usually if we get to the point of needing donations we feel ashamed and humiliated and just close shop. I hope somebody picks up the flag. Illegal and copyright-protected piracy aside, there were tons of royalty-free and non-copyright-enforced works of art there and it would be a big hit on humanity's culture at large for all that to be lost.
- dmos62 3y agoThey did use aggressive popup ads via click-hijacking. So they were monetizing at least to some extent. Unfortunately for them, most people torrenting probably use ad protection.
- anticrymactic 3y agoTo my knowledge, they didn't. There were a lot of imposter sites, which were indistinguishable, where you'd be told to download a VPN or similar. But the main .to site never opened any ads for me
- TaylorAlexander 3y agoIt always did for me. The first time a torrent results page opens, the clicks open a new tab with ads. You had to refresh the results page to actually click through to the torrent.
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- poisonarena 3y agothey sure did! every half a dozen clicks! immediately blocked by my adblockers but i would still dig into the dev tools to try and figure it out occasionally
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- computerfriend 3y agoThe have been a lot of terrible casualties of the war, but this one was very unexpected. Deeply sad about this. Nothing lasts forever.
- hiofio 3y agoI found a replacement is the same as Rarbg https://torrentgalaxy.to/ https://torrentgalaxy.to/
- clsec 3y agoThanks! This seems like a great replacement. Much better than l337x or TPB, especially with dark mode turned on!
- majkinetor 3y agolooks even better. thx
- kypro 3y agoI've been using Jackett for torrents recently. It seems to work really well if anyone is looking for alternatives. https://github.com/Jackett/Jackett https://github.com/Jackett/Jackett
- roesel 3y agoDoesn't Jackett still need trackers such as Rarbg to function?
- egKYzyXeIL 3y agoYes - Jackett is just a search aggregator for multiple selected torrent indexers
- kypro 3y agoYes, but Rarbg was both a tracker and a popular torrent search site. Out of the box Jackett supports many popular public trackers like 1337x and you can configure private trackers too.
- MayeulC 3y agoProwlarr is another alternative https://github.com/Prowlarr/Prowlarr https://github.com/Prowlarr/Prowlarr
- reyqn 3y agoInterestingly (or not), I avoided prowlarr because it didn't cache results, which triggered rarbg's rate limiter. Well it took rarbg going down for me to see that they actually started caching results for rarbg in the latest release... Too bad.
- CoBE10 3y agoI guess mirrors would stay unaffected, because they seem to be up right now. Someone will probably clone their torrents. They might not have been the best quality, but they were always better than YIFI (YTS). I always liked that you could search Rarbg using IMDB numbers. Also, their UI was really pleasing to me, plus, there were many userscripts that extended the functionality of the site. I wounder who will fill up their place, because TPB was always the last resort for me. In the meantime Btdig could be a nice transitory place to find all of their torrents.
- tawayasdf 3y agowhat is the de-facto alternative these days?
- medlazik 3y ago1377x
- inversetelecine 3y agoI think this is a typo? should be 1337x.
- melvyn2 3y ago1377x is an ad-hijacking "clone" of the real 1337x
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- poisonarena 3y agorutracker
- grishka 3y agoI second this but I'm not sure how much use it is outside of the former USSR. Most movies and TV shows there do come with original English soundtracks tho.
- m4r1k 3y agoProbably the largest blow to the torrent sharing community since The Pirate Bay got shut down. The impact of content availability will be noticeable for years to come
- rabuse 3y agoRARBG was my favorite for finding HDR/4k content. Anybody got an alternative?
- GaggiX 3y agoI usually just try to find stuff on DHT using BTDigg.
- jasonfarnon 3y agoI'm very out of the loop at this stage of life, but one thing I have wondered--has software as a service, and all the online gaming, killed off all those kinds of warez? Are most of these pirate sites nowadays just for movies/tv? (One of the reasons I have been wondering about this is that I so f'ing hate windows etc updating and phoning home all the time I would prefer a version cracked a la 2007 to prevent that, over the legit copy I own.)
- BlueTemplar 3y agoOnline-only, heavily DRMed games are still a tiny minority of games. And even if you look at popularity instead, Minecraft (so far as the more open Java version is still popular at least) single-handedly skews the results enough for them not being a clear win for the locked down games.
- chickenimprint 3y agoWhere are you getting that from? On Steam, the offline title with the highest concurrent player count is Civ 6 on place 18, with 1/30 the amount of players of CS:GO. On Twitch, Minecraft, which almost all streamers seem to be playing on multiplayer servers, is in 20th place, behind 19 exclusively online games. I would estimate more than 99% of all playtime is spent on online games.
- MeltdownSpectre 3y agoReally sad to hear this. I basically built my entire Plex server with RARBG. Anyone have any solid private tracker recommendations for movies and TV shows? After taking advantage of public trackers like RARBG, I feel like it's my time to give back.
- inversetelecine 3y agocheck out /r/trackers also watch entry level trackers for open invites. speed, iptorrents, torrentleech, etc
- robertoandred 3y ago[flagged]
- mktk1001 3y agoTorrent leech is great for movies and tv.
- Thaxll 3y agohttps://1337x.to/ https://1337x.to/
- SSLy 3y agoI recommend registering on some usenet indexer instead.
- blitzar 3y agoI download all my linux ISO's through usenet these days.
- xu3u32 3y agoGames? Or other software?
- moffkalast 3y agoThat almost costs more than actually paying for the content.
- skjoldr 3y agoI wonder if they could host the database of magnet links somewhere, since it shouldn't be too big.
- slazaro 3y agoI keep wondering all the time why torrent search is based on websites (centralized), which can be taken down, etc., while once you have a torrent file or a magnet/hash everything is distributed. Is there a main reason why there isn't (AFAIK, even though I haven't really researched) a distributed search that wouldn't have these problems? Is it a tech problem that literally can't be solved? Or it just hasn't been done? It seems like search is the obvious weak link, since the websites keep disappearing or taken down or blocked by governments and ISPs, etc.
- dmos62 3y agoThat's a good question, but the answers are somewhat sad. I see the other commenters saying it's not about the search, but about the curation. Curation or identification (as in, "who's the author?") is essential, but decentralized search is non-existent too. Yes, there is unmaintained, resource-hungry, locally-run, unscalable software out there that you can use, but there really isn't a public search engine for this. Which is a shame. I really hope someone will tell me I missed something, but I'm not holding my breath :( Edit: found mentions of https://btdig.com https://btdig.com and https://bt4g.org https://bt4g.org. I wasn't aware of the latter. A problem with the former is that it doesn't track number of peers.
- drexlspivey 3y agoHow is it distributed? Don’t you need a torrent tracker? How do you know which peer has which files to share?
- zolland 3y agoHere is a good resource https://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification https://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification
- grishka 3y agoDecentralized search is a complex problem and there exist different approaches to it with different degree of centralization and resource requirements. DC++ is a bit more decentralized than BitTorrent. There still are central servers ("hubs"), but they don't even host any metadata. Search works by the hub broadcasting all search queries to all online peers and them replying with results if they have any. The file transfers themselves are p2p. I have an idea that's kind of more decentralized. Initially envisioned as a missing global search feature for the fediverse, but can be adapter for anything that has a similar network structure. A server has a number of peers already established because of the ActivityPub federation. Each server would send to its peers some kind of bloom filter that determines the tags or keywords that this server has results for. Then, when searching, your server would find the peers who are likely to have what you want, and only send your search query to them. If there aren't any, then it would send your query to the peers that have most users (with some random bias for load balancing purposes) because they're likely to have more connectivity, and they would point you where to look based on their own peers and their bloom filters. There would also need to be some kind of reputation system (centralized server lists? p2p exchange of scores/reports?) so that servers that return spam or intentionally wrong results would get punished. This could probably be made to work in a fully-decentralized p2p network, but I imagine it would be too easy to abuse. Getting a new domain costs money, yet getting a new IP or public key is free and easy.
- EwanG 3y agoI have seen several folks on here mention Usenet subscriptions as another option. What I haven't found is any good Usenet tutorial on how to actually get from "I know the name of something I want" to "I have downloaded it". The irony that I used to run a UUCP node on the original version of Usenet does not escape me :-)
- simse 3y agoIt's not too complicated. I heard from a friend, that all you need is a downloader like Sabnzbd, a usenet provider like Eweka or Frugal Usenet, and an index like Drunkenslug to find stuff.
- clsec 3y agoI haven't used Usenet since probably around 2002. It seems like everything is still the same except for the indexer. I assume that is so you don't have to sign onto a bunch of binary groups into your newsreader and then search through them for what you want (part of the fun in the old days for me)? Is that correct, does anyone know? I also wonder if Forte' Agent still works? Does Newsguy still exist? /s edit: found the answer to my question
- maronato 3y agor/usenet has a great FAQ about it[1]. In a nutshell, there are 3 things you need to use usenet. You need providers, indexers, and a software to download stuff. Providers are companies and servers where the data is actually stored, as opposed to peers in torrenting. Since they are for-profit, you need to purchase a subscription to have access to these servers. r/usenet has some nice deals on those[2]. Frugal is usually the most recommended for beginners since it’s pretty cheap and has most files you’ll want. Indexers are similar to what rarbg was. They make it easy to search for files stored in the providers. They usually require a subscription as well, and some require invites, but are really cheap and easy to get [3]. nzbgeek doesn’t require an invite and is pretty complete. nzbplanet and drunkenslug have more content, but require invites. You can get invites for those on r/UsenetInvites Finally, you need something to download the files. There are many options available for that, but I find that the best one is sabnzb [4]. It is pretty complete and has a lot of moving parts, so I recommend following the trash-guides article on it to get started[5] [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Usenet/wiki/faq/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Usenet/wiki/faq/ [2]: https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/wiki/providerdeals/ https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/wiki/providerdeals/ [3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Usenet/wiki/indexers/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Usenet/wiki/indexers/ [4]: https://sabnzbd.org/ https://sabnzbd.org/ [5]: https://trash-guides.info/Downloaders/SABnzbd/Basic-Setup/ https://trash-guides.info/Downloaders/SABnzbd/Basic-Setup/
- yieldcrv 3y agonote: this has no more information about the shut down than the blurb posted on rarbg's website
- cronix 3y agoThat's because it's an archive of that blurb from the rarbg site.
- saiya-jin 3y agoNot only they had clean, easy-to-navigate UI, they also produced tons of their own releases. As big fan of saving space, x265 1080p releases from them were taking minimal space with good quality, practically always bundled with subtitles. That's how quality service looks like. Glad I pulled (here legally) all the movies I wanted in my private collection. RIP.
- haunter 3y agoPray for https://nyaa.si/ https://nyaa.si/ that's the goat tracker for anything Japan
- 5e92cb50239222b 3y agonyaa has already died once, and this replacement is nowhere near the old one wrt peer counts and content availability (the old one already wasn't great). I wish torrent trackers had kept their databases open, maybe by regularly publishing encrypted dumps with a dead man's switch on decryption keys. At least the new nyaa is FOSS, although the code isn't very useful without data.
- dmix 3y agoKinda makes sense the team was (partially) operating out of Eastern Europe and then had some issues with rising costs given the war and inflation. Maybe it will come back in the future when things settle down or a new backer comes in.
- johnvanommen 3y agoThe first time I went on vacation in Eastern Europe, almost two decades ago, I noticed that basically everyone pirated content.
- m00dy 3y agoIve had best parties of my life in Eastern Europe :)
- Giorgi 3y agoDamn. I used to use their "popular movies" feature the most. RIP
- rwmj 3y agoI notice that "anti-piracy efforts", DMCA notices, etc don't figure at all.
- BossHogg 3y agoGiven the Bulgarian heritage, I'd assume looming laws[0] were in fact a factor even if not mentioned. [0] https://torrentfreak.com/bulgaria-approves-draft-law-that-turns-pirate-site-operators-into-criminals-230425/ https://torrentfreak.com/bulgaria-approves-draft-law-that-tu...
- userbinator 3y agoDMCA would be completely irrelevant as they are not in the US.
- paulcole 3y agoIs “completely irrelevant” accurate? In reality, the influence of the US extends far beyond where the jurisdiction of US laws ends.
- omniglottal 3y agoIn the case of DMCA notices, yes. 100.00% of those which are relevany are served within US jurisdiction.
- moffkalast 3y agoWait, so EU businesses don't have to comply with DMCA? Neat.
- pixxel 3y agoKimDotcom?
- cheapliquor 3y agoRIP RARBG It was a good site.
- fsociety999 3y agoPrevious hn thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36136819 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36136819
- zfxfr 3y agoWow that came as a shock. I used to check every couple of days if they had interesting movie I could watch with my wife. I wonder what is the cost of running such a site and I guess they must also earn some money in crypto with all the donation and also the advertisements. Well, that's the end of something
- yieldcrv 3y agoits probably not the money cost, its the effort involved with more manual hosting if you can't risk being cancelled in the convenient data centers or platforms
- makach 3y agoOne Man's Death Is Another Man's Bread
- tawayasdf 3y ago>> One Man's Death Is Another Man's Bread Who's bread is it? Most of the classic bt sites seem to have gone away from what I could see. Sad to see rarbg go.
- abwizz 3y agothe "younger generation" (>2k) aren't used to the open net, they grew into moderated groups (fb), hence i suspect there is a massive number of hidden/private trackers
- thatguy0900 3y agoI think the younger generation just uses streaming sites. FMovies and 9anime work fine. I don't know anyone who torrents shows or movies now.
- lax4ever 3y agoThose who don't want to be dependent on the whims of a conglomerate and would like to actually possess the data files.
- Simulacra 3y agoUntil another site takes its place
- villgax 3y agoThe only way I was able to archive certain show after the studios pulled it from any reasonable avenue of purchase....
- ajsnigrutin 3y agoI really liked their rss feature, it made it easy to filter stuff and auto-download stuff... They will be missed!
- sbdaman 3y agoIt's absolutely insane how many of these incredibly important torrent sites are just managed and hosted by a rag-tag group of people with the site barely clinging to life.
- best_one_there 3y agoBasically all of an actual software company is bullshit jobs unrelated to the core product like legal, marketing, investor relations, HR, maybe even developers for R&D etc. Running a website doesn't require that many people. I've worked at companies with 4 developers and 30+ "other stuff". The company would not be profitable and we would not get paid without them, but the actual product would work just fine if we wanted it to.
- jahewson 3y agoAnecdotally, I’ve never met anyone who thought this way who’s product didn’t suck.
- best_one_there 3y agoIt's not an opinion. Legal is very useful in the general case, but if you're an anonymous torrent site operator who fully intends to ignore the law anyway it's a waste of time.
- George83728 3y agoStack Overflow seems to still be running well.
- ebiester 3y agoI don't understand this. If you build a system for resilience, it should not take significant effort to maintain. You should be able to keep the lights on with 10-20% of the engineering team. The rest is growth. Growth may be making the product better, creating new product lines, or improving the scalability - for example, allowing larger numbers of users or entries. However, you can make the choice to make a well constrained product that serves a valuable use but doesn't need growth. Consider Bingo Card Creator, for example.
- westmeal 3y agoDamn there goes another titan RIP to real ones
- pallas_athena 3y agoDoes anyone know how to find where a certain team uploads stuff? I loved VXT stuff on rarbg, and would love to find them again.
- misterbishop 3y agoThat site has been Comcast's honeypot for like 10 years.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y agoIf Comcast is your ISP in this context, it's not their honeypot. They're the ones receiving the requests that downloads cease from the copyright holders and Comcast acts on those requests as they see fit.
- boomboomsubban 3y agoRunning a torrent site as a honeypot seems like a stupid move for an ISP given how cheap it would be to run a bot that automatically downloads every release and tracks the IP addresses. And Comcast would only bother with that as they own NBC, so probably have been running such a bot for about 14 years now.
- crumpled 3y agoSomeone already mentioned the Comcast angle, and they are correct. The ISP isn't involved until they get the notification from an agent of the owner of the content. The honeypot isn't the torrent site. You can use any site in the world or no site at all and still get busted. It's a peer to peer network, and the people busting you are seeding the torrents themselves. They catch you when you peer with them. Use a VPN, and read more.
- crumpled 3y agoJust to be clear, the rights holders probably aren't publishing torrents, they just also download them and monitor anybody that happens to connect with their seed. In a way, they are helping us with better download speeds.
- 8organicbits 3y agoI'd be interested in the legal argument that by sharing their media in this way, the rights holders are authorizing the download.