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The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Release
- 1-6 3y agoCan't wait until AI has a chance at playing it.
- anonuser123456 3y agoI really hope they invested in storyline/novel gameplay. BOTW set a really high bar; hope this one can match it.
- qwertywert_ 3y agoBOTW did not set a high bar for storyline imo. Gameplay yea.
- spaceman_2020 3y agoFrom the reviews, the gameplay seems like its even more fun. Particularly looking forward to the weapons and vehicles system.
- pbhjpbhj 3y agoUh-oh, vehicles? The worst part of BotW is the bike, it's jarringly out of line with the whole feel of Zelda, for me. They may as well have put a gun in it.
- nly 3y ago...ok, I've owned BOTW for 2 years and I've never come across a bike.
- brenns10 3y agoI do get that it felt a bit out of place initially, but BOTW has 4 massive mechanical laser-shooting beasts, along with a whole fleet of spider-crawling laser robots and helicopter laser robots... The motorcycle doesn't feel so out of place in that context. But I'll admit, I haven't played many previous Zelda games. Also, the bike is only unlocked after all the divine beasts, when the game is already "over" and you're just trying to complete all the shrines and quests. I'm so happy to have it in order to help me get around faster for those things. But yeah, I can't deny it felt weird at first :)
- spaceman_2020 3y agoTo be fair, the bike in BotW so late that it has no real meaningful impact on the game. It's just a fun little reward for practically beating the game so you can now run around and do stupid stuff. The "vehicles" in this are more like platforms and scraps that you string together to create something that moves by itself.
- eranation 3y agoWas part of a midnight release at GameStop today with my son, it was packed. I don’t get the wooden cutting board preorder promotion though.
- voz_ 3y agoBOTW was almost perfect, but the weapon breaking system left me so tired of managing it. What a constant distraction! I get that they wanted to encourage experimentation, but they overtuned it, and it became a chore. If TOTK has the same system, I'm returning it.
- shortcake27 3y agoI just rushed the Master Sword and lived with the cooldown. Been a while but don’t remember being too frustrated about it.
- tinco 3y agoHow can you rush the master sword? It requires a ridiculous amount of hearts and even if you have it it breaks so quickly.
- lhl 3y agoThere's a method (speed running glitch) to get the master sword w/o the heart requirement. Do a search for "botw get the master sword early" and you should have lots of step by steps if you ever want to do it.
- otikik 3y agoThere's the statue that allows changing stamina for hearts. Once you have ~10 hearts, you can get the last 3 or so by temporarily switching them with the statue. That helps. Also, the Trials of the Sword (expansion optional adventure) make the master sword do more damage. It should last longer, as you need to use less strikes with it.
- gambiting 3y agoI actually liked that system, and yes it's also present in TOTK. I'm worried about something else personally - the whole system of building things with random parts looks extremely janky. I was hoping it's only going to be required to solve a few puzzles and that's it, but according to some reviews the entire world is designed around you building this stuff. Well, I'm going to have a try this weekend, but it might end up on eBay by Monday :/
- extr 3y agoI just played it for an hour. It's like a remix Breath of the Wild, which isn't a bad thing considering BotW might be the best game I've ever played. But because of that there's no initial mind blowing experience of learning the mechanics for the first time, understanding how you can go anywhere, climb anything, etc. Hard to replicate an experience like that I suppose. But it still seems like a ton of fun, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it plenty.
- toyg 3y agoI didn't play BotW, would it be ok for me to jump right into this one?
- dools 3y agoWhy would you want to?! If I could go back in time and play BotW again for the first time I would
- procinct 3y agoIt probably would be fine but you should consider just playing BOTW. I don’t think this game will be a huge technical leap ahead given it’s a switch title anyway. BOTW holds up very well imo so you would be doing yourself a disservice to skip it.
- month13 3y agoProbably even better, as the overworld will be completely new. Playing TOTK it's a drastic improvement over BotW.
- Auracle 3y agoI started playing a week ago, though I’m not super far in. You could, but I’d definitely suggest playing Breath of the Wild first if possible. TotK is a sequel, so characters already know you, part of the fun is seeing how the map changed, etc. Also, they’ve added quite a few conveniences that would make it hard to play in the reverse order.
- manojlds 3y agoYes, there's a recap on Nintendo YouTube. Zelda games aren't know for the story. And....no. BotW is still arguably the best game ever. Missing it might not be a great idea. Tough choice :)
- ponco 3y agoFor those of us who have never played a Zelda game...how does this compare to Pokemon, Fallout or Knights of the Old Republic?
- voidfunc 3y agoNot very comparable IMO. Especially to the latter two which are pure RPG.
- nindalf 3y agoI think it’d be hard to describe. Maybe you could watch gameplay videos on YouTube? One quote from a reviewer that I remember - “I didn’t know other games had me in shackles until Breath of the Wild set me free”.
- inasio 3y agoThe world feels almost real, every hill, wall or tree is climbable, every crevice has something interesting, if you just swing your sword in a field you'll cut grass and lizards will pop out. It's hard to try to go on a mission and not get lost going after something cool that you find along the way.
- teruakohatu 3y agoZelda games are generally considered in the action-adventure genre, rather than RPGs (though this is controversial). Unlike the RPGs you mentioned, there are no explicit stats that you can choose to level up. There is no min-maxing of numbers. Progression is your own gameplay skill improvement and items collected that assist either giving abilities you didn't have before, or are stronger than previous items.
- IceWreck 3y agoNintendo nailed it again. Almost every single outlet gave it a 10. And the fixed the performance issues too, even Digital Foundry was impressed at how drastic of a change the day one patch was compared to the cartridge version.
- spaceman_2020 3y agoApparently the game is just 16GB and runs seamlessly on a decade old hardware with no loading screens between game areas. How does Nintendo pull it off?
- qwertywert_ 3y agoKind of a spoiler for people trying to play the game fresh.
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- spaceman_2020 3y agoNoted. Edited my comment
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- Dalewyn 3y agoThe better question you should be asking is why does everyone else need 300GB of disk space that transfers at over 7GB/s, 32 CPU cores at 6GHz, a video card worth $3000 dollars, and RAM sizes measured in gigabytes with 3 digits just for a fucking game? At some point I have to wonder if the reason we have so much computing power is so we can use that computing power.
- meheleventyone 3y agoGaming has been a massive driver of hardware for a very long time in a way that can always be looked at as unneeded. We surpassed more compute for the sake of compute a while ago. The neat thing is that there are still new things to do with it. Real-time path tracing will be the next thing as well as moving more compute over to the GPU. We don’t need it but it will open new possibilities. And it seems less wasteful than running ten copies of Chrome to support a few desktop apps. The new Zelda demonstrates something that’s been true of every console generation. They are a fixed platform and the later games are always considerably better at utilising the hardware.
- nindalf 3y agoAccording to reviews so far this game would be a Top 5 on the Nintendo Switch and Top 50 game on any platform. (https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/switch/filtered?view=detailed https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/...) That’s an impressive achievement for a team that had to beat the high bar they set with Breath of the Wild. Kudos to them!
- riffraff 3y agoFunny, related to your last paragraph, I saw a review of the new Zelda were the only downsides they found were "the switch hardware can't do more than this" and "this sets too high a bar for the next Zelda game" :)
- glanzwulf 3y agoWell, looking at the time it takes them to make a mainline Zelda game, the next one will not come out on the Switch, so it'll be easy to overcome that technical bar.
- frabia 3y agogood to know, cause honestly the trailer looks.. kinda boring. I really liked Breath of the Wild though, so if this is similar in quality (or better) I'll probably get it.
- christophilus 3y agoIGN: 10/10 which is pretty rare. "It somehow makes the original feel like a rough draft." "It makes the original feel like a tiny world." That's kinda crazy. https://www.ign.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-review https://www.ign.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-tears-of-th...
- dm319 3y agoThat's a weird comment because botw seemed huge to me, and this uses the same map. Either way, picking it up today!
- qbasic_forever 3y agoI was listening to a gaming podcast last week and they were talking about how this release was pirated and available for the last week or so on torrents. That in itself wasn't surprising, but the interesting point they talked about is that the game is much more enjoyable when played on PC with an emulated copy because modern gaming PC hardware is much smoother and higher resolution than the stock Switch. It really makes me think Nintendo has an untapped market here to sell a little box you plug into your PC that plays switch games, interfaces with their controllers, etc. They've done oddball stuff like the SNES Gameboy player and GameCube GBA player add-ons in the past. It feels like there would be people willing to pay to properly play Switch games on their gaming PCs.
- denkmoon 3y agoNintendo are way too control-freak for this, not to mention fearful of piracy and emulation. They don't want that money.
- qbasic_forever 3y agoLike it or not apparently Switch piracy is a thing so this doesn't really change much for their current situation. But it does give people who want to do things the right way an avenue to do so. I kind of think of it like high end CAD software and such that ships a physical dongle in order to use the software--Nintendo can sell hardware to help ensure it's legitimate use of their emulation software.
- andy_ppp 3y agoYes exactly, this idea that piracy is lost sales has always been rubbish. The people who go out of their way to pirate always will. Does it work on an M1 Max yet?
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago> Yes exactly, this idea that piracy is lost sales has always been rubbish That's beside the point. What matters is that Nintendo believes that piracy must be opposed at all costs. It's not about sales, it's not about money, it's not about logic, I don't think it's even about the actual law. It's about attacking piracy, as an end unto itself.
- miramba 3y agoI slowly grinded my way through BOTW over the last years, every few months a few steps forward, then getting bored. Left the plateau, tamed a horse and have now the full picture of the princess and a long sleep. Nice, but still little curiousity what happens next. I wish I could feel what everyone else seems to enjoy…
- salzig 3y agoThe game is sooooo boring as a casual that’s only playing on commute. It feels like no progress and only grinding. I really wished there was an option to disable grinding/breaking of stuff.
- zhoujianfu 3y agoThat’s been my problem with Zelda games since maybe OoT… well, maybe not exactly my problem. My problem is mostly that if I don’t play it for a week or two, and come back to it, I can’t remember what’s going on at all and it seems like too much of a chore to re-build my context. They do such a good job with Mario odyssey on showing you what to do and letting you teleport between worlds… there is no grinding at all I feel like. I wish they’d adopt that paradigm for Zelda too.
- arvinsim 3y agoI have been stuck on the Lynel in the castle since last year. I am afraid of picking it up again because I absolutely cannot remember where I was and what I was doing.
- cableshaft 3y agoYeah this is why I never picked BOTW back up, I'd no longer remember anything. I keep meaning to, I just haven't done so, and each time I consider it, it seems like too much to take on that weekend. I did beat 3 of the 4 Divine Beasts before that. I know I never tackled the Castle or the DLC. At least with the sequel it's kind of expected I start fresh.
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- inasio 3y agoFor people wanting to see details of the game with minimal spoilers: https://old.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/ https://old.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/ (0) For people wanting to see spoilers and the cool craziness that can be achieved in the game: https://old.reddit.com/r/TOTK/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TOTK/ (0) Not sure if this is going to change immediately after release
- d--b 3y agoThat new Zelda seems to be very inspired by Ghibli's aesthetics. It's definitely a void in the video game world that was begging to be filled. A few elements that pop out: - Flying islands and robots remind Laputa's castle in the Sky - Villains with lots of tentacles look like demons in Mononoke - Small villages have a Nausicaa feel - The music borrows a lot from joe hisaishi. I wish I had the kind of time I had when I was a kid... That stuff looks amazing.
- LeoPanthera 3y agoI can't remember where I read it, but someone at Nintendo admitted that Breath of the Wild (the previous Zelda game) was directly inspired by Ghibli movies - and Skyrim.
- Agentlien 3y agoI don't feel this is specifically Ghibli. A lot of it seems common to a wider range of Japanese media, of which Zelda is a prominent instance. - Flying islands: also featured in several previous Zelda games including Minish Cap, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword. It's become a fairly common anime trope, though Laputa is definitely the oldest instance I can come up with. - Villains with lots of tentacles: That's a very common thing in Japanese media and seems to go back much further than modern anime. - I haven't watched Nausicaa yet (though I do have it in a Ghibli collection box that I've been slowly working my way through with my family). However, I feel the Zelda villages are basically just picturuesque Japanese countryside. - I am really looking forward to hearing more of it than I did through the trailers. So far, though, it sounds very much like a riff off of the soundtracks of earlier Zelda games. It makes sense that they're similar. After all, Koji Kondo (who wrote the music for many of the earlier Zelda games) is also Japanese and started his career shortly after Joe Hisaishi. They likely had similar influences.
- selectas 3y agoHaha I still remember seeing "A Link to the past" the first time, watching my big brother playing it. Immediately fell in love and the whole series is still one of my favorites ever!
- MrBuddyCasino 3y agoIt has aged incredibly well. A Link To The Past is still almost as fun to play as it was back then.
- zwirbl 3y agoIt definitely is, but if you are looking for a challenge, I think the randomizer is pretty fun https://alttpr.com/ https://alttpr.com/ There are even races and tournaments, often with the more difficult variations like keysanity
- wodenokoto 3y agoI also think it still looks great
- steve_adams_86 3y agoMe too. Their ability to create art that ages so well is inspiring. Other developers have done it too, but Nintendo has done it with incredible consistency.
- MrBuddyCasino 3y agoAnd sounds great! The soundtrack contributes perfectly to the overall vibe, didn’t notice that 30 years ago. It really is a work of art.
- cubefox 3y agoAs an early SNES game looks quite weak compared RPGs later in the SNES life cycle, which often had amazing pixel art, e.g. Seiken Densetsu 3 (Trials of Mana). They really should have made a second SNES Zelda.
- felipc 3y agoHas Nintendo ever talked about how they do software development? Can we all drop the thousands of books that have been written about software engineering in general and just figure out what they do? Game aside, the reviews have been pointing out how the game performs well (after day 1 patch) and is not pestered with bugs, which is an impressive feat for such an open world game where most things are able to interact with everything else.
- HellDunkel 3y agoI have tried to figure this out myself and found two facts that stood out: 1. On BOTW game designers did not allow polishing within two thirds of the game dev process 2. The executives do a lot of play testing. To implement both at the same time is quite something if you ask me.
- tjpnz 3y agoI would put a lot of it down to Japanese craftsmanship coupled with relatively experienced engineers (average age in their Kyoto office is 40 IIRC). Their selection process is notoriously rigorous too and goes far beyond the usual LeetCode questions you'd get at a FAANG company.
- haunter 3y ago> I would put a lot of it down to Japanese craftsmanship This is such an orientalist and borderline racist view it’s crazy. If it were true then it would also imply the other japanese game devs also affected by it. There countless bad games from Japan, don’t even have to walk far from Nintendo just look at the Pokémon games and how GameFreak release them with 0 optimization. And then the countless misses from Square Enix, Bandai Namco etc.
- illwrks 3y agoI think you're missing the point. My family in Japan, and their social/business networks, are exactly like this. Detail oriented and loyal to a fault. While they are not software engineers the expectation is to do your best. Some of it is done through company policies or implied in a social context. That is not true for all Japanese people but it is true of a large majority. I have first hand experience.
- gonlad_x 3y agois there already an emulator for it (like Cemu for BOTW) ?
- DuMOHsmol 3y agoYes, it works on Ryujinx out of the box, and also runs really well on Yuzu if you install several fixes
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- idk1 3y agoHas anyone else here taken the day off to play this? I have taken a rare day off to play this all day. "But why are you here on Hackernews idk1?" Well let me tell you, according to a text message, Terry from DPD is delivering my game between 9:53am and 10:53am so I'm currently perched in my front window waiting for it. (I'm not a digital copy person for all the normal reasons, I can't lend it out, I can't re-sell it in a year, I lose it if I lose my Nintendo account, etc.)
- urbandw311er 3y agoMohsin from DPD is delivering mine around 2pm. Enjoy
- idk1 3y agoA lot of people think Link is the hero today, but the true heros are Mohsins and Terrys from DPDs.
- vodou 3y agoMy god. This almost brings tears to my eyes. I haven't played games for years. Small children and adult life kind of came in the way... I don't miss gaming that much, but I miss Zelda. The sheer perfection of the Zelda games are just mindblowing to me. I replayed The Legend of Zelda many years ago and it was obvious that the gameplay was still holding up. They got it right from the absolute beginning. And not only that, it is basically the same gameplay still used (at least up to Twilight Princess which is the last major Zelda game I played. They are so consistent.
- amarant 3y agoBreath of the wild was probably the largest change in the original Zelda formula since ocarina of time (which introduced 3D for the first time) Based on the trailers I've seen of tears of the kingdom(and I've been trying to avoid that because spoilers) this game walks even further down the path that breath of the wild set out! We're kind of alike you and I,I think. While I don't have kids that keep me from gaming, I could do without it all, except for Zelda. My switch is currently downloading totk.
- tetris11 3y agoIt could just be that we're trained on their mechanics due to their consistency over the years
- zpeti 3y agoOnly been playing for an hour, but when you first jump off and start flying into the garden... yes basically had tears in my eyes. Perfection.
- friendlypeg 3y agoI wish I have the time to sink 100+ hours on this game. I still haven't finished BOTW after playing it on and off for a few years. Hoping the next Zelda would be more brief like the old Wind Waker.
- micheljansen 3y agoMy preorder (the first game I preordered in 20 years) came one day early. It was the closest I've come to that childhood feeling of a birthday or Christmas present. Spent a few hours on it after putting my kid to bed and it's definitely succeeded in drawing me into that world again. I'm somewhat amazed how each Zelda (or Mario for that matter) title is essentially exactly the same story over and over, but still with enough changes to make it feel totally new again. Sure, a lot of the mechanics are the same as in BOTW (the good and the bad), maybe more of an evolution than a revolution, but critics saying it's like a DLC for BOTW are wrong.
- statictype 3y agoThat's probably because in both cases, the story isn't as important as the gameplay (more-so in Mario than Zelda)
- birracerveza 3y agoThe only game I'm genuinely excited about its release, and the only exception to the "no preorders" rule.
- micheljansen 3y agoHN audience may appreciate the "Ask the developer" series in the News section: https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/en/news/ https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/en/news/
- thefz 3y agoWhy is this on HN?
- tintedfireglass 3y agoIt's a game and games are nice. why can't it be on HN? HNers shouldn't play games? This is a great AAA title from a famous franchise of a famous company. Ofcourse everyone is excited about it!
- thefz 3y ago> On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. It's not that I can't find this news elsewhere, and how does it gratify my curiosity? It's the most discussed news item today.
- nindalf 3y agoIt doesn't gratify your curiosity but it does for others. They're curious about how this game is going to be, is it going to live up to their expectations, what do other people feel about it. If you need every conversation to revolve around software engineering, there's even a sub-thread about how they manage to keep this series so high quality. Demanding that things should justify their existence to you is a symptom of main character syndrome.
- mynameisvlad 3y agoSince when is your curiosity the only one that matters? Shockingly, different people have different experiences and as a result different curiosities.
- nindalf 3y agoMany HN readers grew up with this franchise so they're invested. And surprisingly, the devs managed to make a game so good that it would be considered top 50 of all time. This thread is mostly just a bunch of excited fans looking forward to playing the game. HN just likes some games more than others. Will we see a thread for Horizon Zero Dawn or Last of Us? No. Will we see one for a Factorio sequel? Definitely.
- monksy 3y agoI think I feel sick today.. probably need the day off.
- viksit 3y agowhat’s the best way to start with zelda, if you’re on iphone or mac? i can’t reallly get a console.
- Owlettotoo 3y agoThe emulator? If you really have no other way around to buy/play it, then it is somewhat ethical.
- komali2 3y agoIf they weren't going to buy it anyways, it hurts nothing to emulate it.
- LeoPanthera 3y agoIf you can afford an iPhone and Mac, I would suggest that you can probably stretch to buying a Nintendo Switch. And honestly, it's worth it. Pick up "Breath of the Wild" and start there.
- yung_steezy 3y agoDownload a SNES or GBA emulator and play Link to the Past
- baxuz 3y agoI haven't found any info on how it runs on the 1st gen Switch. All of the reviews, including the Digital Foundry one were playing it on the OLED model, which - including the 2nd gen one, have higher clock rates and improved many FPS dips in BOTW.
- baxuz 3y agoCorrection, it's memory bandwidth, not clock speeds: https://youtu.be/3E2PZ5-IVDw?t=725 https://youtu.be/3E2PZ5-IVDw?t=725
- baxuz 3y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mik-AAu0glo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mik-AAu0glo Suspicions confirmed. It runs a bit worse.
- thehias 3y agoI think all Switch revisions have the same speed - only battery size or SoC efficiency differ.
- Tepix 3y agoWhere can i find more information about this? I thought the CPU clock was 1.02Ghz and the GPU clock was 307.2-768 MHz for all models.
- ksala_ 3y agoAs far as I know that's the case. You can overclock a modded V2 and Oled Switch higher, but stock they should run at the same clock speed.
- baxuz 3y agoI messed up, it's not the clock rates but memory bandwidth, which leads up to 10fps more in Kakariko and Korok forest. https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2019-new-nintendo-switch-hac-001-01-review#:~:text=again%20suggests%20a%20shift%20in%20performance%20of%20some%20description%20on%20the%20new%20Switch%20model https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2019-new-nintendo-s...
- waingake 3y agoI've attempted to play through BOTW a couple times and ended up giving up due to weapons breaking, endless shrines, generally rather boring gameplay. The hype here is fascinating. I guess nostalgia and liking what everyone else says they like is a powerful thing. I just finished Horizon Zero Dawn, which I found to be a far superior open world game, the graphics alone are jaw dropping, the gameplay is exciting, quite an incredible production. I'm curious if any of The Zelda fans here have played it?
- vorticalbox 3y agoI have yet to complete it but I fully enjoyed the game though that said the weapons durability always felt way to low and that admittedly did end up being very annoying
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoI did see a good video on why they have the weapons breaking; it's so that there's always rewards to be found when you go exploring. If you keep finding a weapon you already have, it won't be rewarding to go exploring. This video was IIRC comparing it with Elden Ring, which has so many weapons, spells, armor pieces, summons, weapon skills, etc etc that it is able to fill up its world to a satisfying degree without having to resort to breaking weapons so you need to find a new one. But it also pointed out that a lot of the items you can find are asset reuse; weapon skills were already present on certain weapons, but now you can find the skills separately as well. Most, if not all of the summons are also existing enemies or bosses, just with different AI. And a lot of enemies' animations and behaviours were lifted / borrowed from previous From Software games.
- carlosrdrz 3y agoI've played both, and liked BOTW much more, although I also liked Horizon Zero Dawn. I also have the 2nd part of Horizon Zero Dawn (don't even remember the name) and tried to start it twice, but I guess I didn't get hooked into it and dropped it in favor of something else. I guess they're two very different games. Even though both are "open world", I feel Zero Dawn is much more "on rails" than BOTW. I felt there's much more exploration and finding out by yourself on BOTW, while in Horizon is more about "go there, do that. Then go there, and do this other thing. etc".
- basisword 3y agoI caved and bought a Switch last week. It’s the best tech purchase I’ve made in years! The games on it are fun, the versatility of the Joycons is incredible, and the loading speed is a breath of fresh air. My main console is an original PS4. I upgraded to PS5 last year and returned it. It’s just more of the same. Huge game downloads, huge update downloads, a huge console, and long load times. And tbh, I didn’t see a lot of difference in terms of graphics. If you want to play super realistic games then Nintendo doesn’t seem to be the way to go, but if you want to have fun and don’t care about frame rate/whatever other performance metric people complain about, the Switch is amazing.
- hans0l074 3y agoDid you get a chance to checkout Horizon: Forbidden West (the sequel to Horizon: Zero Dawn)? I have been gaming for a few decades now, and this is the most impressive technical achievement I have seen in a game. For me, everything else pales in comparison after this experience (The studio develops their own game engine Decima)
- rjzzleep 3y agoIt looks beautiful, but I tortured myself through zero dawn and then dropped forbidden West an hour in. The story is dumb, the dialogues are a nightmare and I feel like the more they try to paint the female protagonist as some kind of strong woman the worse it made the whole thing. Instead of making her seem strong she's like a petty person, constantly complaining and badmouth everything. The game mechanics make it hard to overlook the terrible storytelling, constant boring grind with an extremely boring skill system. But it's not exclusive to her. All of dialogues are silly. If you had Horizon with the script writers of God of War (2018) even with the boring game mechanics, it would probably be a masterpiece.
- Gareth321 3y ago> The story is dumb, the dialogues are a nightmare and I feel like the more they try to paint the female protagonist as some kind of strong woman the worse it made the whole thing. Instead of making her seem strong she's like a petty person, constantly complaining and badmouth everything. The Mary Sue trope has infected Hollywood and now the gaming industry. Every woman needs to be perfect; flawless. Every man serves only one purpose: make the Mary Sue appear even more perfect. At this stage I'm impressed when media doesn't include a Mary Sue. I'm really disappointed to see this game is similarly compromised, as I was looking forward to playing it one day.
- RektBoy 3y agoRuns great on PC, eheheeh
- komali2 3y agoThis plays on my machine, with a 3080 and recent I can't remember which i7 (I'm out and about), at 4k60fps solid. Nintendo's ability to make games is undeniable. Their raw numbers hardware though has been lacking for every generation starting with GameCube. I just don't get it. This and breath of the wild are completely different games when played at 60fps and a reasonable resolution.
- marinappi 3y agoWas waiting for this for a very long time
- mgaunard 3y agoWhat makes the Switch fun to play is that it's a handheld that you can dock. I couldn't care less whether the graphics are hd, 4k, hdr, dolby whatever, 120fps. The game is fun on the Switch.
- Waterluvian 3y agoOne day Nintendo games will be free of the shackles of Nintendo hardware and we will all be so much better for it. Tears is an absolutely brilliant game that suffers from 20-30fps and incredibly conspicuous pop-ins. I’ve been using a PS4 controller which really helps with avoiding cramping on tiny controllers. Though I’ve heard the Pro Controller is great too. But in general I find myself enjoying the game despite the hardware.
- endisneigh 3y agoThey will rerelease this game eventually on a future console and it will play at 60fps easily. They have done this with almost every Zelda game.
- Waterluvian 3y agoI really wanted Mario Sunshine on the switch earlier this season. They stopped selling the software on purpose. Limited-time-only software is completely against Nintendo’s core philosophy of fun. It’s quite shocking.
- endisneigh 3y agoSoftware generally isn't released forever. Can you buy the original Metroid Prime for Gamecube? Nope. Same with pretty much any old game. It was a time limited release for the anniversary. If you still want it you can buy the disk version on Amazon for $100, no?
- Waterluvian 3y agoSuper Mario 3D All Stars was released on September 18, 2020 and was available until March 31, 2021, when it was discontinued. Six months. I’ll get the popcorn for the Nintendo apologist responses. But this is silly, foolish, and absolutely anti-Nintendo when it comes to it games being about fun and not about collecting or scalping. I’m not paying $159 for it. I’ll just pirate it.
- user3939382 3y agoHere I am waiting for another top-down Zelda like Link's awakening, since my nostalgia is really for the NES game. Or Tekken. Looks like I'm not getting either.
- eemil 3y agoI'll buy it once it's playable on Yuzu/Ryujinx. Not going back to 1080p 30-ish FPS like BOTW was on the switch.
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoIt likely isn't even 1080, the Switch itself is 720 and games MAY upscale to 1080p when docked, but that will affect performance as well. The Switch was underpowered at launch, but that kept it affordable I guess. I hope they do a revision, they tried that with the "New Nintendo 2/3DS" but I don't believe that was very successful - only a handful of games came out targeting the hardware refresh. No games company wanted to leave the millions of regular 2/3DS consoles behind.
- Tainnor 3y agoI cannot describe in words how impactful Ocarina of Time was to me as a kid, how intensely I got sucked into that world to the point that I even wrote some (bad) fanfic set in that universe back in the days. When Majora's Mask came out I was almost bursting with excitement until I was actually able to play it and was again totally blown away by a unique experience. When I played Breath of the Wild, I felt ... nothing. It's not that I hated the game, it was even enjoyable up to a point, but I just can't seem to get as excited about it as many others, and it seems to be missing everything I loved about Zelda. I'm also not a huge fan of open world games in general and to this date, the only one that I think pulled this of well is IMHO Witcher 3 where every side quest feels meaningful. So I wish everyone a ton of fun with Tears of the Kingdom, but I feel no particular urge to play it right now, given that it appears to largely copy BotW's formula from what I've read. Maybe I will pick it up at some later point.
- mbrochh 3y agoOf course it is a copy of the initial formula... just like EVERY direct sequel to pretty much every video game ever made. TOTK is just bigger and better than BOTW in every conceivable way. It's the perfect video game sequel.
- JediWing 3y agoI think "as a kid" is the operative phrase here. Nothing will ever live up to that nostalgia. That's not to discount the criticisms or "feel" you get from the game, but it's worth noting that nothing lives up to our childhood favorites.
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- slothtrop 3y agoI agree. It's a formative stage where everything is novel - even a new game that does everything right can't capture that in adulthood. You also have way more patience as a kid with nothing but time. I didn't mind trudging through jrpgs then, but I hate it now. I don't replay old games like this (the ones that have you solve and explore). It's effectively a security blanket, with no thrill - the opposite of the first experience. I find it bittersweet and it dulls feelings I associate with those games. You can never go back, is the thing.
- ericmay 3y agoI'm maybe a bit nostalgic but I think the Nintendo Switch from a form-factor standpoint along with the tiny game cartridges is the best console made to date. Of course others are more powerful, etc. and I think Nintendo needs to up it just a little bit (1080p on the Switch screen, etc.) but it's just such a pleasure for me to play. I also like that some games like Disco Elysium, Neverwinter Nights, etc. - these older PC games which work fine on Switch are being ported over. Happy to pay a little more to get the physical cartridge and play it on the Switch - though paying $55.99 for Skyrim seems a little steep to me so I'll continue playing that on Gamepass. Waiting for my copy of Tears of the Kingdom to arrive today. In the meantime I'm finishing up Metroid: Dread and enjoying that quite a bit too!
- wodenokoto 3y ago> Happy to pay a little more to get the physical cartridge and play it on the Switch Maybe we are not looking at the same games but the ones I’m looking at are significantly cheaper as cartridge than download (Zelda and Mario, fx)
- ericmay 3y agoSorry I wasn't clear. I was thinking of/comparing to Steam in my head. I genuinely enjoy the cartridges themselves, the very act of inserting them into the system, they're really cool and nostalgic to me.
- thedangler 3y agoGameStop - Dying brick and mortar. This reminds me when GTA came out and there were lines everywhere at midnight to get the game. Digital downloads are nice but half the fun was waiting and not knowing if you'd get a copy lol
- antidaily 3y agoDid not expect full frontal Mipha.
- appleaday1 3y agoI should be playing but this, but do not own a Nintendo Switch. As usual will be behind 3 years and will probably play it in 2025/2026.
- CKMo 3y agoNintendo delivered. I'm only several hours in and know that I will be spending hundreds of hours on this game.
- shicholas 3y agoI think it's also important to point out that Zelda games since the 80s have been one of the best pieces of software humans have ever invented. So many classic titles that have enthralled generations of gamers. You wouldn't get an immersive experience if these games were buggy or didn't have compelling stories and art.
- kulahan 3y agoI don't think I've ever heard of someone describe a Zelda game as having a compelling story before. They have great storyTELLING, I guess, since it's presented fairly beautifully, but "man wants to take over world, hero must stop him, princess also involved" is not... particularly revolutionary.
- hutzlibu 3y agoSuccessful stories are seldom revolutionary. What matters is, if it is well done. And Zelda was very well done all around. Graphic, music, sound, characters and yet unique enough, to create that franchise. (I only played the gameboy version ages ago, but I still remember the atmosphere).
- squeaky-clean 3y agoI'm so upset that I'm really sick right now and can't play it. I mean I guess I could, but I wouldn't enjoy it, my throat is in so much pain. I'll binge it next weekend I suppose. To everyone already playing it, enjoy.
- chikitabanana 3y agoI'll give you what you're asking for: Why are you upset/sick?
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- xnx 3y agoNintendo proves over and over that it's not the computing power of the system, or the "realism" of the game, or blood and guts that makes a game fun.
- seemaze 3y agoFor me 'Zelda' will always be the gold NES cartridge I purchased used from my neighbor after two weeks saving from doing yard work. It endures as my all time favorite game; the legend of 'The Legend of Zelda'.
- glonq 3y agoDespite being 50yo and much more of a PC guy than a console gamer, I actually pre-ordered TOTK. Even though BOTW was my first Zelda game and also my first open-world console action/RPG, I really enjoyed it and was impressed with what they were able to accomplish.
- udkl 3y agoFor anyone not owning a switch but still wanting to experience BoTW esque gameplay and world, I cannot recommend - Immortals: Fenyx Rising - enough .... It's probably the best game ubisoft has made in a long while.