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Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro
- dang 5y agoRecent and related: Google Pixel 6 Launch [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28920140 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28920140 - Oct 2021 (155 comments)
- mellosouls 5y agoBefore rushing in to purchase, note that in some regions, you can claim back a pair of Bose 700 after purchase of the Pixel (at no extra cost)... eg: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB
- rewq4321 5y agoPixel hyphen offers? What a scammy looking domain. This isn't the first time I've seen a large company do this. Perfect way to help phishers confuse customers.
- 0des 5y agoThis is from the same company trying to eliminate the outward appearance of URL's from their browser.
- po1nter 5y agoI was thinking the same thing but it's legit and is linked from the official Google Store (in France https://i.imgur.com/tgwGoQp.png https://i.imgur.com/tgwGoQp.png )
- Ninjinka 5y ago100% thought it was a scam until I saw major news outlets reporting on it.
- abdusco 5y agoThey should have used their `.google` TLD. It would have expressed some level of authenticity. - store.google - pixel-offers.google and so on.
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- vdfs 5y agoIn many regions you can't even see this page
- robocat 5y agoTry: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB?regionRedirect=true https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB?regionRedirect=tru...
- ehsankia 5y agoIn Canada, it's free Pixel Buds Lite worth 140$.
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- causi 5y agoAre they still arbitrarily disabling HDMI-out to force us to buy a Chromecast?
- kllrnohj 5y agoYou're confusing "not implementing" with "disabling". There is no default-enabled HDMI out on any SoC. Rather you have to wire it up and enable it, which includes paying the HDMI licensing fees (and also test that it actually works)
- causi 5y agoMy bad. "Are they still denying us basic functionality that's been part of smartphone USB ports since MHL in 2011 for the express purpose of making us buy crap we don't want?"
- crumpled 5y agoYou're the only person I've heard of using HDMI out of their cell phone USB port. So, I can definitely see a vendor deciding not to provide it and not pay a license for that technology on every handset they sell.
- causi 5y agoImplementing DisplayPort is free. The royalty fee for HDMI is five cents per device.
- windowsrookie 5y agoEvery Samsung S Series phone has Samsung Dex which allows you to connect your phone to a TV or monitor via HDMI and have a full desktop OS experience. It's pretty great and they've been offering it for years now. You can also connect iPhones to TVs and monitors with the Apple A/V adapter. If google wants to make phones people buy, they should at least match their competitors features.
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- fooblitzky 5y agoI'm never buying another Google device after the customer support horror I went through for my Pixel C tablet. I guess the customer support horror I went through when they canceled my phone number out of the blue in Google Fi is also factored into that decision (took two months to get my phone number back), but to be fair, that wasn't an issue with their hardware.
- stefan_ 5y agoSince this is Google making the SoC, surely we have Linux drivers within a month for it? Already upstreamed? Some register documentation? I didn't check, but I suppose the answer is "no". Can't keep pointing at Qualcomm anymore, I guess.
- lima 5y agoPresumably, they'll show up on https://android.googlesource.com https://android.googlesource.com if they haven't already.
- Thaxll 5y agoWhy would they release driver for hardware not available to the public?
- stefan_ 5y agoThat happens all the time: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Display13-Initial-Patches https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Di... Because working with upstream is not sitting in your chambers for years, then throwing a huge patch over at the end of it.
- haukem 5y agoIntel does this all the time, but they want normal Ubuntu, RedHat and so on to support their hardware when their hardware gets into the market. With these phones the hardware and the software is shipped together in a bundle, it is a different thing.
- gambiting 5y agoWhat do you mean not available to the public? You can buy this phone now, no?
- saghm 5y agoUsually these devices become available for pre-order on the day of the announcement, but take a bit longer to ship out.
- jjice 5y agoI don't really pay attention to smart phone specs (I stick to cheapo android phones), but holy cow - 12GB of ram in a phone? Better than my work computer and my personal laptop. Kinda neat to see. Aside from it being neat, I sure hope to god I'd never need that much ram for what I use a phone for.
- inasio 5y agoLooks like they learned from the Pixel 5, the 6 has almost double the battery capacity.
- stolsvik 5y agoI guess this page is supposed to show some phones? I'm in Norway, there's two pages of Nest, WiFi, Chromecast and Stadia.
- cf100clunk 5y agoDUPE of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28920140 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28920140
- nick0garvey 5y agoSite crashed almost instantly, couldn't get through checkout
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- ocdtrekkie 5y agoIt's truly incredible that the operator of like half a dozen of the most heavily used web properties on the planet still can't operate a basic e-commerce store that caters to the few fans who buy their phones. Maybe they should just start selling them on Amazon instead.
- schleck8 5y agoLooking forward to the SoC benchmarks and to Pixel 4a getting cheaper
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- turbinerneiter 5y agoCome on Google, continue what you did with Coral, give us an SBC with this processor and mainline Linux support. Just be cool. Let me build my own thing with this.
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- farnsworth 5y agoThe store is working but it won't connect with my Verizon account to let me check out. If anything was going to go wrong, of course it's integrating with Verizon. Have had so many issues with their website.
- DCKing 5y agoThanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a damn about. Just give me a phone that is meant to last a little while - and allow me to run what I damn please. This looks to be like a continuation of the Pixel 5, which allows you run your own software like /e/OS and CalyxOS aside to just being a lot less of a walled garden on the stock ROM. The Android market is completely dire, and no vendor can be trusted to provide openness, reasonable taste or security updates. They sell you a phone, and once you’ve clicked buy they’ve already stopped caring. So last year I switched to an iPhone 12. I needed to vote with my wallet to get a phone that lasts. But although I get what’s appealing about iPhones and the walled garden, I started feeling claustrophobic. Feeling claustrophobic about what I can tailor about my browser, how easily I can run Game Boy games, what ads I can block, and Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device. I will continue to recommend those phones for most people (pending what they’re going to do with trying to incriminate you), but it’s not for me. Finally here’s a seemingly good Android phone with 5 years of support - from the only phone vendor outside of Apple who appears to give a damn about that aspect. Don’t get me wrong: 5 years is still too short in my view, and not as long as Apple provides support for on their stuff [1]. But the market needs change, and I’ll put money towards that. [1]: The iPhone 5S has just hit 8 years of _kernel_ security updates last month with iOS 12.5.5. One can dream on the Android side, but I’ll take 5 years in the current market.
- cobertos 5y ago> from the only phone vendor outside of Apple who appears to give a damn about that aspect I hope the hardware is solid too. After having 2 Google phones die just outside of warranty to bootlooping, I'm skeptical they'll be able to make them last.
- thecolorblue 5y agoWhich phones did you have trouble with? I am still using my pixel 3. I was going to upgrade just for more storage (the camera updates are nice too).
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- josteink 5y agoLink doesn’t seem to work. Could be geo-fenced? (Location: Norway/Europe)
- Hokusai 5y agoHere in Sweden it shows a list of products, none is a phone.
- GOATS- 5y agoThe phone is only available in a handful countries at launch it seems. https://9to5google.com/2021/10/19/the-pixel-6-series-is-now-available-to-buy-in-these-9-countries-with-these-pre-order-bonuses/ https://9to5google.com/2021/10/19/the-pixel-6-series-is-now-...
- krzyk 5y agoNot only at launch. Google limits Pixel sales/support to a small set of countries. Doesn't even include all EU. Strange tactic for someone wanting to sell more phones.
- AnssiH 5y agoAdd /us to make it work (i.e. see the Pixel 6 models): https://store.google.com/us/category/phones https://store.google.com/us/category/phones
- dreamer7 5y agoOne interesting thing to note is how much more high-budget Hollywood style Apple's event feels in comparison to Google's event. Having watched the two events on successive days, some things stand out - Apple throws numbers repeatedly at you through out the presentation and you end up remembering quite a few useless statistics (55.7 billion transitors in M1 Max) Apple makes a much bigger deal about each device with lots of close ups and pseudo x-raying of the product. Google just throws in a Pro with an extra camera that you can barely make out on the dark glass. Apple spends several minutes talking about their SoC. Google says it spent years on Tensor and just leaves it as a shiny golden box. The weirdest thing in the Google presentation is that several sections had presenters talking to a different camera than facing the screen. That just felt very strange.
- mda 5y ago"The weirdest thing in the Google presentation is that several sections had presenters talking to a different camera than facing the screen. That just felt very strange." The camera director is probably living in a different decade, these side shots were used a lot 20 years ago, and it was still annoying then.
- turbinerneiter 5y agoApple has next level processors, it makes sense for them to brag about them. Tensor is good processor, but nothing special, except for the TPU in combination with their ML. So they focused on the UX enabled by that.
- firstSpeaker 5y ago>The weirdest thing in the Google presentation is that several sections had presenters talking to a different camera than facing the screen. That just felt very strange. Not sure if that is reassuring or a sign of carelessness or a very well planned stunt.
- 0des 5y agoThis is a common technique used in film when someone is reading from a teleprompter. It is meant to draw attention away from the speaker's eyes moving from side to side.
- paulpan 5y agoTensor SOC seems pretty impressive on paper, will be curious about how it benchmarks and performs in real-life. The Pixel 5 with its "mid-tier" SOC (Snapdragon 765G) was actually pretty good thanks to the software optimizations. Bigger news is Qualcomm being left out. Will they go the way of Intel by incentivizing their customers build their own SOCs?
- _xy8h 5y agoThe bigger problem with Qualcomm is that they're primarily the reason why devices only got a two year span of updates and poor support. Each board built for each phone still had to get the software support starting with Qualcomm before it could be built with new source for updates. Outside that 2 year window, every device OEM had to support the hardware themselves. That's why new phones with older SOCs never got any updates at all. (Read up on Project Mainline as one attempt to mitigate this problem.) I'm not surprised at all that OEMs are moving towards own/custom SOCs or other sources. Been seeing more Motorola phones with Mediatek socs, Samsung has Exynos, Google now with Tensor.
- phh 5y ago> The bigger problem with Qualcomm is that they're primarily the reason why devices only got a two year span of updates and poor support. All Pixels running Qualcomm got Android N+3. Pixels running Tensor will get, let me check the announcement, ah yes, Android N+3.
- summm 5y agoWhat are you talking about? Pixel 2 was releases Oct 2017, end of support was Dec 2020. So, about 3 years. Pixel 1 was the same, 3 years. For the later ones, still supported, let's see. Tensor based ones will get at least 5 years.
- throwaway09223 5y agoI've been playing around with the edge TPU on a coral.ai board. It's very impressive - I'm able to do real time object detection at tens of frames per second vs one frame every 15 or so seconds on my CPU.
- marcodiego 5y agoThanks for you country redirection Google! I simply can't see this page because your country redirection prevents me.
- hu3 5y agoThis should work: https://store.google.com/us https://store.google.com/us
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- darth_avocado 5y agoAnother garbage phone to show off. Google Pixel has been highly unreliable. My OG pixel XL bricked twice within 2 years. My Pixel 3 had defects that forced me to take calls on speaker phone otherwise the mic wouldn't work after the warranty expired. Meanwhile, my wife is still rocking the iPhone 7 with some degradation in battery life, but pretty much everything else working as it should. I don't regret jumping into the Apple coolaid one bit. I wish instead of "cool features", they'd spend some time improving their supply chain. You expect some quality from a $1000 phone. And in case it seems subjective, look up lawsuits for faulty hardware for pixel phones. I’m not making this up.
- wffurr 5y agoMy Pixel 2 was solid and reliable up until it stopped getting security updates last year. One year in on a Pixel 4a and zero complaints with it so far.
- williamscs 5y agoMaybe it's an odd-number issue with the Pixels? My wife is using my old Pixel 2 with reduced battery life, but otherwise no issues. My Pixel 4 XL is still working great.
- ehsankia 5y agoI've had Pixel XL, 2XL, 3, 4XL and 5. They've all worked 3-4 years (I pass them on to various members of my family). The only one I had any issues with was the 4XL, with the back plate peeling off, and Support just swapped it for me after 5m online chat.
- danellis 5y agoWhat about it is garbage?
- jasonvorhe 5y agoYour experience isn't always representative - and mine isn't either, of course. I've been buying Nexus devices since the Galaxy Nexus and I owned every Pixel device so far and the only genuinely bad experiences where the following: - Nexus 7 from 2012 became slow as hell due to storage issues after a year. It worked fine after I RMAd it. - Pixel 2 XL had a terrible display on the first charge. I got it replaced and the new one was way better. - Pixel 4 XL got replaced once because the phone got quite hot while charging. The replacement has been working well. I know a lot of people who definitely had more issues with their Samsung and Apple devices.
- o_____________o 5y agoSwitched to iPhone last year and can't believe how bad iOS is generally. Feels years behind. Missing Android!
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- bastardoperator 5y agoThat's how Android felt for me. Too many knobs, and a lack of good apps. I'll take Apple's integration over what amounts to nothing any day of the week.
- postalrat 5y agoWhat are these good apps? I'd like to check some out.
- easton 5y agoI don't know if it's worth changing phones over, but Overcast is a really nice podcast player (smart speed works very, very well). Apollo is nice for reddit.
- account_b 5y agoAntennaPod and Slide for Reddit. And I raise by Newpipe and uBlock (in Firefox)!
- ehsankia 5y agoI think some of that might be what you're used to. There are plenty of quality podcast apps on Android, such as PocketCasts. Same for reddit app, there are dozens. Maybe not as flashy but I've been using rif for almost 10 years now and it has been very solid.
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- kisamoto 5y agoI think normally I'd look for the Pixel or the iPhone but my next purchase will be supporting FairPhone. When I think about how powerful I need my phone to be I don't need the best. I want something I can fix and update myself; something that's supported for more than a couple of years; something that is a little "better" for the planet. Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices?
- throwaway81523 5y ago> Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices? The old joke about Microsoft Word driving an upgrade treadmill (no matter how fast your computer gets, Word will still take 30 seconds to boot) still applies, except it's to web browsers. Welcome to the future, where every tweet will include its own multi-megabyte, cpu hungry javascript app.
- marginalia_nu 5y agoI stopped looking at what the marketers tell me I'm supposed to want in a phone, and went shopping for phones that have what I actually want: Durability and battery life. I've started getting those rugged phones of the sort they market at construction workers. They're brilliant. Water/mud/dust/salt resistant, you can drop them however many times you feel like without cracking the screen, battery life is alomost two days (and that is while using the thing). They're also pretty big and clunky, the camera is unimpressive, and the performance is middling at best, but I honestly don't mind that at all.
- Seattle3503 5y agoSome of Samsung's rugged phones still let you replace the battery as well. In addition to having a headphone jack and SD card slot.
- r_klancer 5y agoActually, I'm very rough with my phones and considered buying a ruggedized phone, but went with a Pixel 5. It has a rubberized back and has held up very well over the last 10 months of use with only a screen protector (no case). In fact, it held up better than my previous phone, a Moto Z2 Force I bought because Toms Hardware Guide named it the most durable: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/toughest-smartphone-drop-test,37083.html https://www.tomshardware.com/news/toughest-smartphone-drop-t... Also, it turns out that the camera sometimes matters more than you might expect. Other people in my family care somewhat that the pictures and videos I took of my kids using the Moto were pretty meh--and some pictures didn't get taken because the camera system was so slow. (Oh, and the audio on those videos was poor.) The Pixel has a much, much nicer camera and microphone. (Obligatory disclaimer: I became a Google employee a few months after purchasing my Pixel.)
- kevmo 5y agoMiss me with a Google monitoring device.
- numlock86 5y agoWhose monitoring devises do you recommend then?
- fabianhjr 5y agoGoogle Pixel devices are some of the few with a relockable bootloader and availability (though not open source) of drivers. That makes them the _only_ option for someone that focuses on privacy. (By installing calyxOS)
- kevmo 5y agoNice info! Thanks!
- notyourday 5y agoGoogle fails at even building an ecommerce website for the special launch event. In 2021. For a launch of a major "premium product". Why on earth would one ever believe the rest of the product which is orders of magnitude more complicated would actually function and not suck in 4 months?
- _xy8h 5y agoYou're right! They suck, this is the first time they've ever built a phone and they have no history of working devices to prove themselves!
- notyourday 5y ago> they have no history of working devices to prove themselves! * Boot loops. * Android updates that they push to their own phones that brick those phones or break the cameras. It is as if their engineers write code against the devices those engineers can't use to test on. * Non-existent customer service in case the phone does go into a boot loop or update breaks the camera.
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- danellis 5y agoOh, I don't know, maybe because those two things have nothing to do with each other.
- nicbou 5y agoI really like my Pixel 5, and I hope that Google maintains the course with future Pixels. It's a proper appliance phone. It holds the same place in my life as my kettle or my washing machine. It does what I want it to do, and asks nothing of me. I don't know any stats about it, only that it's fast enough, has a long enough battery life, and takes good enough pictures. I couldn't be happier.
- Symmetry 5y agoIn the same boat but I suspect I'll be sad if I didn't have a finger print reader on the back of my phone. But maybe there's a good reason everybody is putting it on the front now?
- pkulak 5y agoHaving it up closer to the middle of the screen does at least look way more convenient than standard iPhone placement.
- derekp7 5y agoIf I'm sitting at my desk I have my phone on the desk instead of in my pocket. It gets annoying have to pick it up to hit the fingerprint reader on the back when I fire up the 2-factor auth app.
- a1371 5y agoCompletely agree. I remember with my past phones, there were lots of flashy features to play with but then they'd become annoying and you'd start to notice glaring usability problems. Pixel has exactly what it's supposed to have and all of them are well designed.
- Audiophilip 5y agoPersonally, the lack of a headphone jack is a deal-breaker for me.
- wffurr 5y agoI hope they keep making the A series midrange phones with head phone jacks. EOL for my Pixel 4a is August 2023. So maybe there will be a Pixel 7a with a tensor v2 chip and headphone jack by then.
- executive 5y agoZenfone 8 has and is a great iPhone mini alternative: https://www.asus.com/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/ https://www.asus.com/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/
- Audiophilip 5y agoWow, thanks for sharing! It looks like a strong candidate to be the successor of my Pixel 4a. Small size and the presence of a headphone jack is a must for me, the 120Hz OLED screen is a very nice cherry on top.
- mchusma 5y agoI have and like the 5A. Great phone of you want a headphone jack.
- bjoli 5y agoI was reading the material and went "I might actually get this phone", bit came to the same conclusion you did. Both me and my wife are looking for new phones. Both of us (despite looking for very different things in our tech stuff) went "oh. Damn".
- bduerst 5y agoThe inevitable A version (like the 5a) will likely have one.
- eric_b 5y agoThis will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know how it feels white man!" - I'd like to mention that I don't think it's good to exclude any group. I'm not sure why it's OK to vastly prefer one group for representation over another when the focus lately is on fair representation of everyone? And finally, to those who say "I'm surprised you even noticed" - everything in the media where I live is about race and skin color - literally to the point where the narrative is that so-called "color blindness" is not desirable - so it's something I'm beaten over the head with daily.
- wffurr 5y agoHow interesting that this clearly made made you uncomfortable. I imagine it's similar to how people of color feel when seeing seas of white faces on product pages past.
- eric_b 5y agoThat was my point. It's ridiculous whichever extreme they choose. In 2021 when everything is about race and equity, I find it telling who its OK to exclude. Why couldn't they just have it be equal across the board?
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- gremIin 5y agoIs it really that ridiculous to put minorities in the spotlight for a few years? Try watching a "popular" movie from the 70s, 80s, 90s, or early 00s (e.g. Star Wars or Lords of the Rings). It is very depressing how blatantly they are excluded. Featuring minorities for a while isn't that big of a deal. It would be an incredible moral failing if we pretended racial representation is all fine now.
- bilalq 5y agoWhen I first read about the Pixel Pass, I wished it made sense for people on existing family plans. But digging deeper, I see that's the least of the problems there. Some red flags: * If/when you cancel Pixel Pass in the future, it will also cancel your Google One membership. If you're over the 15GB free tier, your email will stop working (!!!)[0]. * You have to cancel your existing YouTube Premium subscription before you can sign up. [0]: https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/9056360?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/9056360?hl=en&co...
- ThatPlayer 5y agoTheir claim of "Save up to $294 over two years" seems to be based on monthly rather than annual prices too. If you get to checkout, they list "Pixel Pass services (Google One 200GB)" as $17.97/mo. Annual prices for Google One and Play Pass are both $29.99. Add in YouTube Premium which doesn't have an annual plan for $11.99, and you're looking at $17/mo. So the real savings are entirely from the phone + warranty where you'll save about $200 on the Pixel 6 Pro, but you're still forced to buy all those Google services you may or may not need. I'm also on a family plan (with the grandfathered YouTube pricing), so it doesn't seem to be worth it.
- f6v 5y ago> A pocket-sized personal security guard. My slim fit jeans say “no”. Seriously, how big do people want their phones to be?
- MikeBVaughn 5y agoWhat is the warranty experience like on earlier Pixels? I've heard some bad things about Google's consumer-electronics-side customer service, but I don't know how representative those stories are. I dislike iOS, but AppleCare+ is the one thing that tempts me to go back to iPhones. If, after spending my entire work day writing code and fixing bugs, I have a problem with my phone, being able to say "you know, screw it, this is is a problem for the Genius Bar" has a very strong appeal.
- modeless 5y agoI've done 3 or 4 Pixel RMAs and device protection plan replacements in the past few years. The good news is that it's relatively easy to convince them to replace the phone. I've never had a problem getting a replacement, even multiple times for the same issue. The bad news is that communicating with them is infuriating. In one case they were so incompetent that two different reps separately sent me replacement phones. And when I called them trying to return the extra phone they were totally unable to process the situation. I eventually gave up wasting my time trying to convince them that I should return the extra phone and just kept it (gave it to a friend). Luckily they were too incompetent to charge me for it. The other bad news is that the Pixel 2 XL and Pixel 4 XL both had issues warranting RMA and the RMAs did not totally fix the issues because these were design defects, and the replacements also exhibited them to varying degrees. Speaker buzzing for Pixel 2 XL, and back glass detaching over time on Pixel 4 XL. I'm still buying Pixel 6, but if it doesn't have an RMA-worthy design defect it'll be the first one since Pixel 1.
- MikeBVaughn 5y agoYuck! I'm sorry! I hope it works out for you!
- JediWing 5y agoThe launch of this phone was utterly botched. There's a hilarious dissonance between the talk of SoC design, AI, computational photography and ambient computing and the inability to handle a website with a relatively simple purchase flow for a phone that, let's be real, probably has about 1/10 th of the interest and web traffic of the iPhone. From the moment the store website went live with these phones there were all sorts of errors, and I ended up forgoing purchasing from the google store after trying to for an hour! Once Best Buy went live with their stock, I instantly was able to pre-order with little issue. I'll be picking it up on release day there. Fix the store, Google!
- Bhilai 5y agoI tried a few times and the store error-ed out and a few mins later, the phones were sold out.
- hocuspocus 5y agoYear after year, Google keeps reminding us its hardware line is not something's it's taking seriously. They sell phones in a ridiculously small number of countries, and without fail, they can't even do it without hiccups. And when you actually get a device, there's often some hardware issue, or annoying bugs, and sometimes both. (Writing this on a Pixel 5).
- seized 5y agoMy Pixel 5 has been perfect. No bugs, glitches, hardware issues, etc. The only complaint I have is them removing the proper burst mode on the camera, but that was gone with the 4 series I think.
- zamalek 5y agoI gave up after my Pixel 4, now on a OnePlus. Google has consistently omitted something annoying on their phones. No wireless charging when everyone else has it, replacing a fingerprint scanner with face unlock (hello pandemic!), laughable battery life. They take 3 steps forward and 1 giant step back with each iteration. I wasn't willing to find out what stupid shit they would pull with the 6. The color grading on those photos, though. So sublime and authentic.
- tootie 5y agoHot take: I haven't seen a compelling new phone feature from any manufacturer in as long as I can remember. I spend 99% of my tapping time sending texts, using a browser and taking pictures with the rear camera. Same as I did on my Droid X which was my first smart phone circa 2011.
- jiggawatts 5y agoI thought the same, but the video quality on the iPhone 13 Pro is just absurdly good. I already had the X, but the upgrade is very significant. Similarly several people have commented that the front facing camera makes me look noticeably sharper and clearer in video calls. Some basics might not be changing much, but cameras still are.
- deadmutex 5y ago> taking pictures with the rear camera. I think taking better pictures in low light, etc. can be thought of being a "new phone feature" (for any phone).
- GoodJokes 5y agoNot really a hot take. Just an observation about what is compelling to YOU, a singular person with your unique needs.
- deadmutex 5y agoBtw, I just came across this: https://www.engadget.com/google-assistant-call-hold-181236423.html https://www.engadget.com/google-assistant-call-hold-18123642...
- ricardobeat 5y agoThe link doesn’t work in other countries, is there a press release somewhere?
- Ninjinka 5y agoWhy is the subscription purchase option for the Pixel 6 Pro saying "From $689.72 or $28.74/mo for 24 months"? Is it really $209.28 cheaper than just buying the phone?
- ac29 5y ago28.74*24=689.76
- kubb 5y agoNot available in my country. That's fine, I'll just buy an iPhone.
- unethical_ban 5y agoSo is there any info on Google's processor, any benchmarks, any specific synergies to show off that put it ahead of the competition?
- colordrops 5y agoI'm interested in pixel devices since they are supported by GrapheneOS. Is there any concern of hardware spying by google even if using an alternative secure OS without google services and applications?
- fabianhjr 5y agoNot really, the compute enclaves are for privacy rather than remote management. (So nothing as nefarious as Intel vPro)
- joemazerino 5y agoThe Titan M and Pixel firmware images are closed source. If you can stomach those caveats your data should be safe with a Pixel.
- Sodman 5y agoI hate the trend that the "pro" versions of all these flagship phones need to be an XL Phablet monstrosity. Human hands haven't gotten any bigger. I have owned most of the Nexus & Pixel phones throughout the years. After having the Nexus 6 as my daily driver for 2 years, I have always opted for the smaller option ever since. I would totally pay flagship prices for a regular ~5.5-6" phone with flagship specs, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Make it 50% thicker if there are space/heat concerns, but making it wider and taller just makes it super difficult to use consistently with one hand. I also say this as somebody with larger-than-average hands!
- grae_QED 5y agoI hear you, but being able to read books on my phone is a game changer for me. I wasn't able to do that with my old 5" phone. Also, along the same line, not straining my eyes to read a text or work email is pretty great too.
- kelnos 5y agoHell, the non-pro version stretches credibility size-wise. I have a Pixel 4, and it's uncomfortably large for my (normal-sized?) hand. For me, the sweet spot was probably around 4.5". But good luck finding a phone with flagship specs in that size.
- kalleboo 5y agoSmaller phones with decent specs like the Xperia Compact range and the iPhone mini series have not sold well, so there does not seem to be much of a market for it. You may very well be the only one.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoAnd they still "don't have room for headphone jack"
- executive 5y agohttps://www.asus.com/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/ https://www.asus.com/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/
- krzyk 5y agoNo Face Unlock, bummer. Rumors where that it will be in the 6 Pro, but technical specification doesn't mention it. So I'm staying with Pixel 4, yet another year.
- bduerst 5y agoI thought face unlock has been a security vector for the iPhone, and that even Apple is thinking of dropping it?
- krzyk 5y agoIt doesn't look like it, they still release phones exclusively with face unlock. What security issues can it have? Fingerprint sensors could be fooled with less work. And fingerprint sensors don't work always (e.g. for me they don't).
- bduerst 5y agoHmm, I thought Apple had switched to requiring pin/watch for face ID unlocks because they were not totally secure. The same could be said for fingerprint though. I think the more secure biometric unlocks require the occasional pin verification anyways.
- pound 5y agopin is used when faceID cannot recognize you (when you're wearing face mask)
- abeyer 5y agoThe phones are too damn big
- executive 5y agohttps://www.asus.com/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/ https://www.asus.com/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/
- robocat 5y agoLink for anyone not in the US: https://store.google.com/us/category/phones?hl=en-US®ionRedirect=true https://store.google.com/us/category/phones?hl=en-US®ionR... Otherwise you see your local country store... Dang: perhaps replace link so international users get the same page?
- Griffinsauce 5y agoThank you! I've never understood why they don't sell them in the Netherlands. The way they just pretend it doesn't exist in the store by redirecting you is extra annoying.
- nerdwaller 5y agoSeveral hours later, I finally got the order through and even got an email confirmation and a fairly rapid delivery (end of month). If you were having issues earlier, you might be able to get in now.
- eis 5y agoGoogle seems to have for some reason requested a very/overly broad embargo from reviewers which does not let them show any photos taken with the device or software features for now. MKBHD mentions this (and shows nothing from the phone really) @ https://youtu.be/roWxo6jWoYw?t=140 https://youtu.be/roWxo6jWoYw?t=140 And Mrwhosetheboss said he refused to cover these phones due to the embargo. The Tech Chap mentions he can't show anything apart from the home screen. Can't even swipe down to show notifications @ https://youtu.be/aLr7eCsY6Cg?t=191 https://youtu.be/aLr7eCsY6Cg?t=191 Wonder what made them think that that's a good idea. Especially because Android 12 is not exactly a secret.
- pkulak 5y agoDid you notice MKBHD said this kind of embargo is a "red flag". Well, he already knows any issues that may exist, so it's very interesting that he chose to say this.
- LegitShady 5y agoI did notice that - even though I'm using a pixel 3a now I'm waiting for full reviews and some understanding of why they embargoed the phone reviews before deciding to buy.
- pkulak 5y agoSame here. Still rocking my Pixel 3 even though the USB C port is hosed and I can only wirelessly charge. :/
- koyote 5y agoThis might be a long shot, but I once thought my USB-C port was broken but it turned out that all that happened was that fluff and dust/dirt was lodged inside and the cable no longer went in all the way. The fix was to slowly scrape all the fluff out with a needle (I am sure there are better ways). This is of course assuming your issue isn't anything electronic.
- yonaguska 5y agoBiggest complaint is fast wireless charging limited to their own wireless charger. I had a really hard time finding an in-stock fast wireless charger for my pixel 3, and ended up just not purchasing it. Kind of a pain since the usb-c charger is always getting gunked up from putting the phone in my pocket.
- brianmcc 5y ago0% APR finance over 2 years in the UK, interesting. Never seen that before. Will definitely wait and see though, my Pixel 4 was terribly disappointing (woeful battery and tiny screen).
- PennRobotics 5y agoI was excited about these but realized it's probably because Google put so much effort into marketing. The phone is unspectacular and has a wacky design that doesn't hit the spot for me. At the end of the day, there's a huge focus on photography, live transcribe, and extended support. From my perspective, that's their hook. For photography, I have a Sony Alpha with OIS, etc. Live Transcribe has been a Google Research app for months, so it's not unique to the 6 or even to the Pixel lineup. Companies like Fairphone are fighting to bring long-term support to Android, and the major players are slowly coming around e.g. Samsung. For me, the downsides include the appearance (smooth, shiny, uniform glass on both sides; dull two-tone colors), unnecessary curved screen on the Pro, lack of a headphone jack, virtually no mention of audio quality or tuning of the onboard speaker/microphones, giant size, and plenty of features I won't use (wireless charging, reverse wireless charging, security chip, 120Hz display). The fingerprint scanner seems better in review videos than the Fairphone 3's abysmal sensor but is in an awkward location if you pull the phone from a pocket with one hand---probably the second worst location, TBH, with the worst being next to the USB port on the bottom edge. Of all the silly nuances (protruding camera, curved glass) the fingerprint sensor location is most likely to drive me to put a case around this phone. A case isn't a bad idea either; it would hide the weak exterior design, keep your palms from accidentally touching the waterfall display, and make the thing so bulky and uncomfortable, you'd never put it in a pocket and risk bending the frame. It's good the software support doesn't last longer than 5 years, because if it survives this long, every non-camera hardware feature would be an annoyance. This is purely my opinion. I don't want to financially support the assembly country, as I disagree with their style of government, stronghold on entire industries, and widely rumored aggression toward outsiders and the lower class. They're almost as bad as the U.S. In short, the price is right. The features feel almost all wrong. ----- Even the bonus deal misses the mark. In Europe, they're including Bose NC headphones. But ... I already have wireless NC headphones, so I'd need to resell either NC pair, then sell my Beyerdynamic wired headphones, then throw away my wired buds, and optionally buy a set of wireless earbuds. At the risk of irritating the North American Pixel 6 buyers who would love some Bose 700s, I'd rather have the phone for a lower price or have not-so-awesome Pixel earbuds as a bonus. ----- On skin tone: Does every smartphone manufacturer develop their own system camera app from the ground up? If most phone makers have camera apps based on Google Camera (just as most browsers are based on Chrome), it's a bit of a dick move for Google to declare great progress in skin tone photography and inclusiveness unless your company is gonna share those algorithms with other Android partners. You know... since Android is also made by Google, and the skin tone correction is likely performed 100 percent by software. I mean, why not just press release, "Black people, dark-skinned Latinos: you all matter to us, ... UNLESS you buy an Xperia or Oneplus running our OS and system apps!" ----- Here's to hoping the Pixel 7 focuses on audio, physical durability, and repairability without sacrificing a good IP66/67/68 rating.
- e2e4 5y agoWhy does pixel 6 cost ~10% more in Japan!?! ¥68,501 vs ¥74,800
- xxpor 5y agoconsumption tax?
- sekou 5y agoOne of the more compelling new features looks to be Live Translate built into the keyboard for 48 languages using Private Compute Core. I'd be curious about accuracy but I'm glad things moving forward in that space.
- l4bytt 5y agoWithout a 3.5mm and proper dual sim, this thing is useless to me :/
- fomine3 5y agoPixel 6 207g weight is horrible. Pixel 5 is just 151g so this is huge jump. I wish smartphone manufacturers stop adding unnecessary weights for premium (like glass back). Pixel 6 Pro 210g is fine compared to non-Pro.
- gniv 5y agoAgree, but a lot of people seem to not care. The iPhone 13 pro is 204g. The max is 240g.
- summm 5y agothey care but the other way round: if the device is made out of lightweight and stable high-tech plastic, they complain it feels and locks cheap, and they hate that, regardless if the plastic would be superior to metal, glass or ceramic in almost any way. As always, the mainstream is much more guided by their emotions and sense of status than rationality.
- fomine3 5y agoSeems to, especially for US people. Maybe other manufacturers just jump on the same bandwagon as Apple.
- nerdwaller 5y agoI’m not sure if it’s people don’t care or don’t have much of an option, especially if they lock into an ecosystem. There’s just a lot more choice on Android devices and the various trade offs.
- vymague 5y agoBut they have options. The mini, SE, old smaller phones.
- nerdwaller 5y agoThere are options, but they’re much more limited. As a bit of anecdata my wife was coming from a pretty old phone. She views it as getting something more cutting edge so she can keep this one as long as her last one and didn’t think that starting with older hardware would get her there. That view limits the options to only a few.
- markdown 5y agoProbably should delete this, mods. Most of the worlds people are blocked from viewing this page. On the other hand, I can view everything there is to view about iPhones on the Apple website even though I can't buy one.
- Teknoman117 5y agoAnyone know if Google has any plans to mainline the kernel support for the SoC in the Pixel 6? One of the largest troubles with running your own OS on phones is having little to no information on the SoCs, and thus having to run parts of Android with a shim to a standard Linux user space.
- intricatedetail 5y agoGoogle seems to be hiding the fact where the phone is made. I think it's very important to know for a consumer to make an ethical choice. Where they make it?
- PennRobotics 5y agoThis is true. It was supposed to move to Vietnam, and this was delayed because of the pandemic. https://www.gsmarena.com/nikkei_google_will_produce_more_than_7_million_pixel_6_phones_a_huge_increase_over_previous_models-news-51491.php https://www.gsmarena.com/nikkei_google_will_produce_more_tha...
- figassis 5y agoI understand if something works, people copy it, but this is ridiculous. The pixel showcase page might as well be apple's. It's literally an ad for apple's brand and design and marketing, etc. So tired of this laziness.
- nkotov 5y agoThis is the first time I'm buying an Android phone in over a decade. My last Android phone was a Motorola Droid X from Verizon. I'm excited to spice up my life a little bit after being so locked into the Apple ecosystem.
- adventured 5y agoThat camera band - sand bar, whatever the hell it is - is one of the most atrocious smartphone designs I've ever seen. Extraordinarly stupid on the part of the designers. Phone designs should be pursuing a flush camera segment design, not an approach of how obnoxiously can we make that part of the phone stick out from the rest.
- pphysch 5y agoYou don't use phone cases, I take it?
- PennRobotics 5y agoIf the phone is supposed to have a case and a flush back, the manufacturer should build the phone with a non-detachable case and a flush back. Don Norman would be disappointed.
- voidfunc 5y agoI had a Pixel 1 and loved it but switched to an iPhone circa EOL Pixel 4 because I couldn’t wait for 5/5a. Is the 5a worth picking up? Im not a fan of iOS and Android has a killer feature in Work Profiles. Id like to switch back.
- tiagobraw 5y agoused to love pixel phones, my first smartphone was a google nexus and had one until pixe 2. Then one day I needed Google support for hardware… It was terrible. Just to contact them was multiile multi hour wait calls until I could get it RMAd and had to stay a week without a phone… then I switched to iphone and guess what, it has the same apps… except I know if something happens with my phone I can just take it to a apple store and have it checked right away
- sim_card_map 5y agoI've lost hope of getting a 4-4.5'' phone ever. All companies are obsessed with these phablets.
- martythemaniak 5y agoAnd every year I'm disappointed at how small the "big" phones are. What I really want is the Nexus 7 without bezels, which is wider than the phones of today and had 142cm^2 screen. The 6 Pro only has a 110cm^2 screen despite being 6.7"
- luigi23 5y agoWhat about iPhone mini?
- easton 5y agoIt's larger than 4->4.5". It feels a tiny bit smaller than the 8, but with the notch and no Touch ID I wish they would've made SE sized with a 8 size screen. I don't need a phone this big, and with my usage (~3 hrs SOT) the battery is more than good on the Mini, there's room to shrink it.
- rjzzleep 5y agoDoes anyone know if these finally have global nfc and if allows for custom secure boot keys? I don’t want to but a premium priced Japanese version for global nfc and I don’t think that just because older versions has support for custom keys this one will as well. Same goes for SoC and driver support. This is mostly a rehashed Exynos, so are we really certain that the drivers will me more open than on the exynos side?
- harpratap 5y agoNFC-F + Felica is truly one of those technologies that could have really made a huge difference in the world (imagine a no-internet, no bank/middleman payment system in 3rd world countries) but got ruined because of Japan's Galapagos Syndrome. Had NTT & JREast looked from a global POV and worked with OEMs to reduce hardware & licensing cost we could have seen Suica working all over the world today.
- rjzzleep 5y agoI think it's more NTT and Sony. Every single Felica card in Japan is manufactured by Sony. Either way it doesn't matter. It actually is a shame, because most countries that did buy felica are dropping it because of licensing even though it's technically better than any of the competitors. Regardless of that Apple managed to get global felica into their phones since the iPhone 8. Googles japanese google pay is just a shim for Osaifu Keitai. At the end of the day they seem to be too busy reinventing android pay every couple of years instead of taking some lessons from Apple. This is as much Googles fault as it is Sonys and NTT.
- harpratap 5y agoEven for Apple, the most profitable smartphone OEM, it took them many years and so much engineering effort to make it work. They started with iPhone 7 JP edition, next their "Global NFC" iPhone X,8 series was pretty much a failure[1]. I can see why Android OEMs don't want to pursue providing solution to a technology that isn't widely adopted, is expensive to implement and has minimal user base [1] https://atadistance.net/2021/10/13/a-iphone-x-nfc-failure-story-for-the-user-and-for-apple/ https://atadistance.net/2021/10/13/a-iphone-x-nfc-failure-st...
- lmm 5y agoAnyone got a page with these phones' specs in English? The linked story keeps forcibly redirecting me to a page in some other language, even if I manually edit the URL back to the one in the story.
- ehsankia 5y agohttps://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_6-11037.php https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_6-11037.php https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_6_pro-10918.php https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_6_pro-10918.php
- loxias 5y agoCan't wait for the Pixel 6a! Also, hoping this means 5a prices will drop, I'm ready for an upgrade.
- lucidone 5y agoHow do folks evaluate upgrading their phone? I'm using an iPhone 6s still that was a hand-me-down and wanting to upgrade the camera - not sure what I ought to be looking for. Dropping 1k CAD seems exorbitant for this purpose.
- zamadatix 5y ago6s is next on the chopping block, that's usually when I call it necessary if nothing fun has come along to snatch up in-between. As far as the price 1000 every 6 years doesn't seem exorbitant, it's about the price of something like Netflix over the same period but you likely spend a lot more time with it. If you want lifespan you can't go wrong with another iPhone plus that comes with the added bonus of not having to worry about every technical detail of the phone to make sure it's actually a good deal. If you want to hyper optimize on the Android side of things look at signal bands (even for some higher end devices) and make sure your carrier of choice is well covered with them. Also look for either reputable brands or bootloader unlocked phones (or both) so you can load your own OS updates more than a year after buying the device.
- Synaesthesia 5y agoI also used a 6s for years and years. Has a great form factor. I bought a 2nd hand Mate 20 Pro from a friend as replacement. It has a much larger, AMOLED screen, bigger battery, faster charging and better cameras. So many features! A refurbished iPhone x or similar may surprise you and they're not too expensive
- atraac 5y agoI'm in a similar spot, I have Galaxy S9 and want to upgrade mainly for the camera. I would also prefer something that is not huge. I'm waiting for S21 FE announcement and if that doesn't come, I'll buy either Zenfone 8 or I'll throw my money for S21 I think. I really like Pixel 6 looks and camera performance but if Google doesn't give a f** to sell it in my(European) country through normal channels I'm simply not gonna work around to give them my money.
- Slippery_John 5y agoI switched from Android to iPhone a few years ago and certainly don't miss having to sort through a sea of models when looking for something new. I keep all my old devices to use for hobby projects, so I appreciate the longevity of updates that Apple gives. If you're looking for a great camera, a new iPhone will certainly give that to you. And of course you'll almost certainly get a long tail of os upgrades like you've had with your 6s, so if you keep it for 5+ years the price is more tolerable. A 64gb 12 mini can be had for 800 CAD new. And you can certainly get cheaper if you buy second-hand.
- murukesh_s 5y agoIf you are outside US and trying to open the link, it may not show up if the device is not launched in your region. Below one worked for me: https://store.google.com/us/category/phones?hl=us https://store.google.com/us/category/phones?hl=us
- hyperpallium2 5y agoPro has almost 2 TFLOPS gpu: mali-g78 mp20 97.15 * 20 = 1943 GFLOPS https://gsmarena.com/google_pixel_6_pro-10918.php https://gsmarena.com/google_pixel_6_pro-10918.php https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_(GPU)#Variants https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_(GPU)#Variants
- moneywoes 5y agoDo we know how their chip compares to Apple’s offering?
- guru4consulting 5y agoOne of the big issues that I have with Pixel phones is the large file size for the videos. Even a 5 minute video runs into 300MB-400MB file. I disabled HDR, reduced resolution but nothing helps. Has anyone else seen this issue and found a way to reduce the video file size?
- sagarpatil 5y agoI’ve been using Google Phones since they first launched Nexus. My last Google phone was Pixel 4a but boy is the battery life on these phones bad. Moved to iPhone 13 and I’m really happy that I did. The battery lasts one full day. I’m exploring new features everyday that show Apple has put in a lot of thought into designing the hardware and software. I don’t think I’m going to use a Google phone anytime in future.
- standardUser 5y agoI couldn't wait any longer so I purchased a very expensive Samsung S21 Ultra ($1200) because no Google phone could lure me away from my fading Pixel 2 XL. My mistake, because the Samsung phone had preloaded software that took considerable effort to remove (more than most people could/would deal with). It wasn't the software itself that bothered me, but rather that there were notifications for apps I don't use that I could not turn off. That's enough to make me hate a company for a long time. Bloat my phone all you want, but notifications take my brain-space, not my drive space. At least with a Google phone I have a semblance of control over the core function of the device. Looking forward to the Pixel 7 or equivalent once this Samsung device has served its purpose.
- LegitShady 5y agothe apps preinstalled I can't remove that send notifications is exactly why I won't get a samsung phone either. I had an s7 (edge which sucked to use one handed because of accidentally hitting things on the curved edge) and all the samsung stuff on there that I had to deal with was a pain and the ass and impacted battery life (because it improved once I removed most of it). I went to pixel phones and never looked back.
- Covzire 5y agoI want to like Samsung, and I used to have an S III and it was great in it's day but they need to step up with their security updates. They provide 3-years of updates now I think which is better than they used to be, but for a lot of security-minded people I think a portable computer with a lot of sensitive personal data is pretty much obsolete the moment the critical security updates stop coming. For me that means I could only have a Samsung phone for 3 years before it would need to be replaced.
- zibzab 5y agoActually, I think it's 4 or 5 years, depending on Android Enterprise eligibility
- optymizer 5y agoI've only ever had Nexus and Pixel phones, and I've purchased most of the releases, starting with the original T-Mobile G1, which, along with the 6P, will have a special place in my heart. I finally switched to Samsung S20 last year, and my wife to OnePlus 8T. They were more expensive, but we got better hardware and noticeably better battery life. On the software side, the Samsung S20 is not only bloated, but buggy. The keyboard likes to die once in a while, so there's just no keyboard unless I reboot the phone. There is way too much in that phone. It's like someone said Yes to every idea that was uttered in meetings. It also likes to kill background processes very aggressively, which sometimes affects Google Maps navigation and casting to Chromecast. On the flip side, Samsung has this software (Link?) that lets you use the phone from a Windows computer and it works very well. The touch screen is very sensitive and the screen has these slightly raised round edges, so sometimes grabbing the phone sends touch events which is fairly annoying. I was pleasantly surprised with the OnePlus. Little bloat, compared to Samsung, hardware is very solid, didn't notice any glaring software issues, no weird stuff. I'm not sure how open it is to flashing another ROM, but to me it feels like a higher end Nexus phone.
- thoughty 5y agoI can't even open the store page in India. Very very frustrating
- ece 5y agoIt's a bit disappointing that ARM v8.3-v8.5 has some security features that aren't available in even this custom SoC (PAC/BTI/MT), and they would still help with a JIT. The size increase on the 6 from the 5 is also :(. I still like what I saw, and I hope Google's able to get to shipping kernel updates through the play store.
- ece 5y ago* Yes I know these ARM security features were pushed by Apple, and existed before that in software through grsec in similar form mostly.
- a-dub 5y agoif i buy one through verizon (for the simplified billing and insurance) do they still lock the bootloader? also, does it speak lte? is verizon still the champ in 5g?
- G3rn0ti 5y agoOnly problem with Google‘s Pixel phones is they are almost unrepairable. If you break their screens you total the device. For example: The Pixel 4‘s display is connected through the housing for the motherboard and battery. You need to remove quite a lot of screws and components from the phone to access the screen cable. Furthermore, this way you need to remove the seal/glue for both the motherboard housing and the screen itself: https://youtu.be/3HTeJAgBl3g https://youtu.be/3HTeJAgBl3g It’s unlikely but let’s hope Google has improved the repairability …
- adamleo 5y agoI'm still using my google pixel 2 xl with no case for the whole time I've been using. I dropped many times (including some drops I definitely thought that I was gonna need a new phone instantly), but nope, it still works like a charm with only minor scratches on the corners. While I do really love pixel, I do think they are not putting enough effort into building a functional eco system around the phone, sharing files is such a pain in the ass and the "sharing nearby" feature never works on this phone, and everytime I needed to transfer files I have to use a cable, that's why I'm switching to iPhone. But I do like what they've shown about the new pixel phone tho.
- CobrastanJorji 5y agoMy dog chewed on my Pixel 4 display and totally broke it. I mailed it off to get repaired. Cost me $299. Not sure how much it usually costs to replace a phone's display, but as the phone was pretty new at the time, I paid it.
- izacus 5y agoThat's about the same price I had to pay for broken display on my S10. So it seems it's about standard (and ridiculous) amount of money for a screen replacement.
- mithr 5y agoNot knocking these phones at all -- I'm sure they're great -- but I found it genuinely hilarious that in 2021, one of the features Google chose to highlight, in the main, big "The reimagined Google phones" section, under "An all‑new Pixel experience" is "...and checks your spelling as you type."
- 101011 5y agoI wonder how much money on market research went into that.
- neilv 5y agoI really like that bootloaders on Google-branded devices have usually been unlockable, and they win points for that. Currently I'm using that for GrapheneOS. https://grapheneos.org/ https://grapheneos.org/ But I'm not fond of the recent front-facing camera cutouts in the display, which are tackier to cover with tape. I foresee being sad if/when end of upstream device security fixes forces me to upgrade hardware from my Pixel 3.
- emodendroket 5y agoI gave up and bought an iPhone the last time I wanted a new phone because the last Pixels were so uninspiring. Glad to see them trying to turn it around.
- kelnos 5y agoIt really makes me sad that every generation just gets larger and larger. I miss a phone that I could comfortably use with one hand without feeling like I'm going to drop it half the time. Also, what is up with the gigantic camera bump on the back? It looks terrible. I guess I'll be keeping my Pixel 4 a bit longer...
- ankurdhama 5y agoIt is amazing that so much of money and effort is spent by phone manufacturers just to take "good" pictures/videos :)
- sabujp 5y agocheaper pixel 6a coming i hope?
- ur-whale 5y agoAs usual, a US only launch: need a VPN just to look at the product.
- otar 5y agoI don’t trust Google Pixel anymore. I leave outside US and in my country Google has no official dealer. I bought an unlocked Pixel 3 via my friend in US, who shipped it to me. At first, everything seemed good unless it started to lag in few months. First, battery percentage was stuck at 26% (but the phone was charging), then, received phone calls were having a very bad quality (calls via messengers were good). So, in conclusion, I couldn’t: 1) understand if the phone was charged or not; 2) always had a bluetooth earpods with me in case I needed to call or receive a phone call. It appeared that both of the issues were a hardware failures and needed my phone to be shipped back to US to the Google Service Center, which I didn’t do. When you pay a decent money for a flagship phone, such issues are unacceptable. Pixel 6 might be an excellent phone, but I’m not risking my $$$ anymore with it.
- jasonvorhe 5y agoI was in a similar situation with my first Pixelbook that I imported from UK because it wasn't available in Germany. Shipping it to a Google certified repair store was quite expensive, but at least I didn't have to pay for a new Chromebook. I don't know, importing something and then complaining about a lack of service doesn't feel right to me. I knew it'd be a gamble when I imported the Pixelbook and since it got replaced, I haven't had any issues since 2018.
- yCloser 5y agofrom my country the page redirects to "buy pixel 4a, 389€" google doesn't even want to to know that later model exist
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoTheir main selling point seems to be that they can take "authentic pictures of people with different skin tones" (translated to English from German by me, as I can't get Google to show me the English page). Google truly is all in on diversity. Wonder how it will work out for them. Nothing against people with different skin tones, but how different will the skin tones of the average people an individual is surrounded with be? I personally don't know people of so many different skin colors that I ever worried about that issue, but perhaps it is different for many people in the US?
- wodenokoto 5y agoHow do you get to the product page, if visiting from a country that does not have the pixel for sale yet? Google has this shitty policy that if they aren't selling it to you, you are not allowed to see it, so they redirect you away.
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- jerrygoyal 5y ago3.5mm audio jack is gone.
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- wiso 5y agoWe aren’t in your region yet You can still browse our products in any of the other regions.
- oblio 5y agoWas wishing for a smaller phone :-(
- polyterative 5y agowould buy as an upgrade after my oneplus 5t. sadly not available in italy (yet?)
- LtdJorge 5y agoCan't see because it detects I'm from Spain, it only shows Pixel 4a.
- danhoule 5y agoIs it just me, or does the phone's aesthetics make it feel so premium? The only downside is that if you try to play games, you will probably be annoyed at the camera.
- dcchambers 5y agoOrdered a Pixel 6 Pro for both my wife and I to replace a Pixel 4 and Pixel 3. Looks like a nice upgrade, very interested to see how the Tensor CPU performs compared to other flagship SOCs. The price was a pleasant surprise. Trying to order the phone was an act of frustration - that's for sure. I refuse to believe that Google, who handles more traffic than anyone else on the internet, can't create a store that can handle a bunch of people trying to pre-order this device. I ended up having to order from Best Buy after continually erroring-out during checkout on the Google Store and then finally having my items removed from my cart because they were out of stock. I also can't understand why Google limits the storage options of certain colors. It's hard not to compare Google's event with the iPhone 13 launch event a month ago, and the wildly different strategies the companies are using to try and market their devices. Apple (rightfully so) is very proud of the performance of their SoCs and definitely emphasized that aspect - using tons of numbers and data throughout the presentation. This was also seen in the new Macbook event last week. Meanwhile, google hardly mentioned a single hardware detail and focused more on the software and user experience. I have to admit the google event felt more "hand wave-y." They may have avoided talking about hardware details in the event though since they basically revealed the phones months ago.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 5y agoIs it possible to disable all the google apps on that phone, like search, chrome, gmail, assistant, text to speech, youtube etc? I can do that on my samsung phone using adb. If yes, I might buy one.
- webmaven 5y agoLooking at the Google Fi plans available right now, the Subscribe and Save option ($15/mo, upgrade after 2 years) for the Pixel 5a and the Pixel Pass option for the Pixel 6/6 Pro ($45-55/mo) that bundles a bunch of extra services like Google One and YouTube Premium are both interesting, but what I really want is a Subscribe and Save option for the Pixel 6. Maybe I should just wait until a Subscribe and Save plan for a (hypothetical) Pixel 6a is available.
- mesozoic 5y agoLooks pretty bad