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wizeman
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> The best way to prove braingenious wrong is by not engaging with him Well, I like to give someone the benefit of the doubt when discussing these kind of contentious issues (up to a limit, of course). It has served me well in the past (
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> perf has an option to use DWARF data for stacks, but IMHO it simply does not work. Could DWARF data be fixed/improved so that this works reliably? If so, we could have our cake and eat it too (in the future, not right now, of cour
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> If it's the former, I'd love to know why the frame stack version of the program would run more slowly. I believe it's the former and my understanding is that the stack frame version uses a register (RBP on x86-64) to ke
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4y ago
I mean that the likelihood (or weigh) of an opinion being expressed by an AI should be roughly proportional to the number of people who currently hold that opinion, assuming the AI is simply generating responses based on its training (which
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> This poster that has just only learned of the word “woke” according to them I only just learned about how the term is used as an insult in your language. Again, I'm not from your country, so we don't necessarily use it the sa
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> When called out, they made the mistake of using dogwhistle phrasing (“clown world“ is very specific to one group) that you don’t really see much outside of /pol/ and its ilk and in threads where those folks bravely venture ou
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> It would also reproduce the biases of the authors, weighted by the volume of writing coming from that bias. Yes, but I think there are ways we could reduce this bias, perhaps significantly, even. > While one might object to the edit
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Here's some more Nazi rhetoric for you: 1. I believe that there are many more racist right-wing people than left-wing people, both in the US and outside, even when excluding the far-right. 2. I believe there is a significant problem wi
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You are misrepresenting my points. I don't believe the left hates whites. Where did you get that from? When I was referring to the clown world stuff, I was talking about the extreme side of the left (which I'm assuming is where
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> “The REAL nazis are people that don’t buy into the great replacement theory!” If you are insinuating that this is what I think or what I was trying to convey, I can assure you, it's not. I don't believe in the great replaceme
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4y ago
I meant that if you say "there's no way to avoid the bias", it sounds like you're basically admitting defeat and not even trying to reduce bias. I don't think we can achieve 0% bias, I agree with you on that. But I
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I think (and hope) that you are correct. But I also think that, even though what you said can be true, that there has also been an increase in how these political positions are becoming more extreme (both on the left and on the right!) and
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> Not to be glib, but this is the nature of "progress" - it changes things. ;) Well, I genuinely hope you are right.. :) But note that not everything that we call or called "progress" is necessarily positive. We have
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I think all of your points are valid. But I still think we should make an effort and strive to solve these problems. I don't think this is being done with ChatGPT, for example. But also, note that an AI doesn't have to be in compl
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> Its origin on the internet was tightly bound to the "Honkler" meme, which was a neo-Nazi dogwhistle so thinly veiled that it was only denied by people with "1488" in their usernames. There was essentially no real at
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> What agenda would that be? Modern liberal politics. > I don't see how someone wishing to be referred to by a specific pronoun should be political. In my mind it's just something I do to be respectful to people I interact w
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I think what you're saying makes sense. I was not aware of the full breadth of negativity associated with the term "woke". I think I will start using the term "progressive politics" from now on (at least, as long as
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> Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism You are right, it also encompasses this meaning. Regardless, my point still stands. > It’s kind of odd, it’s almost as if there i
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> Everything from Disney to M&Ms Sorry, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. > the very concept of pronouns in English have been called "woke" It's not "the very concept of pronouns" that
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> > The goal is to be as unbiased as possible given that limited amount of effort. > So you are therefore biased Yes, but significantly less than before. Which is the goal. > You have a finite set of resources, and you are choos
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Or, rather than posting non-sense, you could learn about what "woke" usually means in this context, which I can quote for you [1]: "shorthand for American Left ideas involving identity politics and social justice" "
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4y ago
Sure but I mean, if a conversational AI would only be allowed to spit out mathematically correct statements, it would be extremely limited (and boring). I think what's important is for those mistakes to be evenly distributed among as m
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These "current AI systems" that you're talking about were presumably specifically trained by "woke" Silicon Valley employees to reflect their opinions about what the AI should answer [1], which are hardly representa
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Fortunately, I think "reality" in this context doesn't have the same meaning as "the physical universe". I think the important goal is for as many people as possible to feel like the AI isn't being too biased a
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I'm sorry, I'm lacking the historical knowledge to answer your question. My view is that a measure of "bias" should reflect what a representative sample of the entire population [1] would answer if you asked them how bia
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> The approach you describe has the problem that it's asking majority people about the experiences of minority folks No, my approach is asking all types of people about the experience of minority folks, including those minority fo
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Ok, so I guess Hacker News has decided that data can only be 100% biased or 0% unbiased, but nothing in-between. Yes, almost all data is biased... of course. Some data is 100% biased. Some data is 1% biased. How about we try to collect data
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How about you select a representative (i.e. random and statistically significant) sample of the population and then ask them their opinions about certain (especially controversial) parts of your data, and then weigh your data according to t
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Are those humans that nudged it representative of the population? Or were they mostly "woke" Silicon Valley employees? (not to dismiss woke Silicon Valley employees, I'm just saying their opinions are not representative of th
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> You cannot describe a procedure that collects a representative sample without introducing bias. What does representative mean? Who decides what it means? Who gets to set the parameters of over vs under sampling? Perhaps you can take a
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