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Kimi Work
- airstrike 3mo agoStill a chat interface, so definitely not an "AI Desktop". Also this was released about a month ago https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/meta-ai/articles/moonshot-ais-kimi-brings-300-184057169.html https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/meta-ai/articles/moonshot-ais-kimi...
- trollbridge 3mo agoAren’t there all chat interfaces? Same goes for Claude Work, ChatGPT Work, etc
- airstrike 3mo agoThat's precisely the problem. People are building UI/UX for a paradigm that is so utterly new that they miss the mark entirely. Everyone defaults to a big chat input because that's all they know. It's the expectation, so it's safer, faster, and cheaper to not deviate. It's also wrong and bad for work.
- o0-0o 3mo agoHow would you fix it?
- airstrike 3mo agoModels need richer context to do well. They also generally need a verifier, but better context is already an improvement. So to fix it, you need to rethink UIs to be agent-first. I'm not saying Kimi Work and its peers are entirely useless. I'm just saying they're a hack that puts a pretty low upper limit on agent capabilities and speed.
- datakan 3mo ago> It's also wrong and bad for work. Say's who? Why? I honestly don't get the problem. OpenAI just did what you said with the Mac app and were forced to roll it back because of the uproar. A chat box is simple, relatable, easy to use. K.I.S.S. is a thing
- airstrike 3mo ago> Says who. Says everyone who's not using this stuff. It's an empirical argument. Is anyone actually using this for work? How long has it been since Cowork was released? It's such an inadequate tool for work it reeks of SF hubris to think you can just slap a chat input box onto a PC and replace 90% of white collar jobs.
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- cortesoft 3mo agoA CLI interface has been perfect for my coding work, why is it bad?
- dymk 3mo agoCopying a block of multi-line text out of the agent doesn't work over ssh, for instance.
- airstrike 3mo agoit's pretty great for coding because the CLI provides the model with all the context it needs and with a way to verify the result of its actions via linting, compiler messages and program output the rest of "work" doesn't have that luxury
- bilsbie 3mo agoCould I use the browsing feature to search for land to buy? Or is there an easier way I’m overlooking? Hoping to find something on a creek with a Mountain View and fairly remote.
- fellowniusmonk 3mo agoI have a UI I developed from first principles about 10 years ago, I use it to replace my os, its like my personal do everything emacs os but not at all emacs, and its funny to see other Uis iteratively convergence on it as context finally gets its due.
- wild_egg 3mo agoIs there a link anywhere for a docs site for this? Really curious to know what "deep data sources" they have set up for the Native Global Market Data feature.
- alexjameson 3mo agoMost docs are here https://www.kimi.com/code/docs/en/kimi-code-cli/customization/plugins.html#kimi-datasource https://www.kimi.com/code/docs/en/kimi-code-cli/customizatio... Not sure about the feature you mentioned but one can see in their app that they use IMF, World Bank, SEC EDGAR, and Yahoo Finance.
- martin_drapeau 3mo agoThe Pricing page shows all plans are sold out.
- OsrsNeedsf2P 3mo agoGotta generate that FOMO
- jackbravo 3mo agoThey say that they have too much demand so are stopping new subscriptions while they scale up: https://x.com/Kimi_Moonshot/status/2078855608565207130 https://x.com/Kimi_Moonshot/status/2078855608565207130 > Over the past 48 hours, demand has pushed close to the limits of our current capacity. To protect the experience of existing subscribers, we're temporarily pausing new subscriptions and prioritizing compute for current members. Existing subscribed users are not affected. > We're adding capacity as fast as we can and will reopen new subscription spots in batches.
- 9dev 3mo agoThat might even be a beneficial move, creating (well, actual, not artificial) scarcity works well to draw interest usually. Curious how this one plays out.
- EliasWatson 3mo agoYea, they had so much demand for Kimi K3 that they hit the limits of their compute: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48969291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48969291
- NetOpWibby 3mo agoFirst time I've ever seen something like this. Fascinating.
- rvz 3mo agoFor the past 3 years, many software engineers were coping that AI (particularly LLMs) was only going after juniors. Given the documented history of mass layoffs related to AI from 2024 to today, it is clear that everyone including seniors and staff level folks are just as affected. So let's just say, if your whole identity is for being a typical software engineer no matter the seniority and nothing else, perhaps it is time for you to reconsider options as of course 100% avoiding AI is futile at this point. There will still be new jobs, but there will be no need for more excess people, even under Jevon's paradox. Software engineers were just the test bed for this and now there is an oversupply of SWEs without jobs in the market and will have to use AI tools like Kimi Work and Claude Cowork to be employable.
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- slopinthebag 3mo agoDo you actually believe this and are concerned about it?
- rvz 3mo agoFirst of all to reply to your deleted comment, yes this is completely relevant to the article. As token costs drop significantly (thanks to local models and hosted Chinese models.) employers will consider using cheaper models like Kimi Work and others, even if they are already using expensive ones like Claude Cowork. They won't be able to operate without it. Secondly, do I actually believe this? Of course, I already said that there will be more mass layoffs because of AI years ago. [0] So this outcome was expected. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42490692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42490692
- Paradigm2020 3mo agoLast year, not years ago
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- m3kw9 3mo agoIt rubs me the wrong way that they have to copy everything, the UI is almost exact copy of Codex. The entire mind set of just copy the best is holding them back.
- timothyduong 3mo agoGive them time, they'll work out their (Chinese UI/UX) groove just like they're working out EVs in the Chinese market. Copy first, improve and adjust later.
- Loocid 3mo agoI hope they don't bring Chinese UI/UX to it. Native Chinese apps are a mess from a western perspective.
- bluerooibos 3mo ago> It rubs me the wrong way that they have to copy everything, the UI is almost exact copy of Codex I'm sure OpenAI haven't copied or stolen anything without permission - oh wait a sec.. The US loves capitalism because it pRomOtEs cOmpEtiTion. Well, here's the competition you asked for, lads - suck it up.
- Paradigm2020 3mo agoIt's not about copy the best, it's about reducing friction for someone coming from a competing product. Hence why everyone uses the same play, stop etc "buttons" / signs on "mediaplayers" whether virtual or real. [1] Unless your user really trusts you / doesn't have an alternative reducing friction is better than being subjectively better [2] [1] triangle, square etc... [2] bottom placement versus top placement of browserbar on mobile phones... From an ergonomics perspective way better but from a UX experience worse... Hence chrome changed top to bottom but was forced to change it back on android, while apple forced their users from top to bottom and didn't have to move it back
- qmr 3mo agoJust wire in "teh cloud!!1" to your local files. What could go wrong?
- asadm 3mo agoi mean don't mount your nudes to it?
- cute_boi 3mo agoNo linux? They should ask k3 to add linux feature lol.
- kvisner 3mo agoI wish they had some kind of US hosted option, NDR policy, or something like that. I love the price and power, but I have concerns around data sovereignty and leaking IP to an overseas company.
- simlevesque 3mo agoIt'll most likely land on Bedrock when the K3 weights are released.
- nickthegreek 3mo agoWill it? Bedrock doesnt have deepseek v4, GLM 5.2, Qwen 3.6, minimax m3.
- oh_no 3mo agoit has kimi 2.5, which isn't to say this will show up but who knows
- HarHarVeryFunny 3mo agoFireworks AI has all of those, and is cheaper than Bedrock.
- fbrncci 3mo agoAzure should have those.
- ilamont 3mo agoSame. No way I am uploading data to a PRC company. It's not just an IP issue ... there's a very high likelihood such companies will be restricted in the United States, even if they try "Chinawashing" stunts like Bytedance.
- mrinterweb 3mo agoAs soon as the K3 weights are published on July 27th, there will be many US providers hosting the model. I realize model hosting doesn't really apply to kimi work specifically, but in terms of accessing K3, there will be US options likely in 7 days. Just look at OpenRouter to see the providers hosting K2.6 https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2.6 https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2.6.
- postalcoder 3mo agokimi has been particularly shameless in copying codex 1:1, wow. Like, I get it, before condex there was conductor and a ton of other guis but this looks like they just copied the code. Also, their privacy disclosure is incredibly misleading: > How does Kimi Work protect my privacy when accessing local files? You have absolute control over your files. The built-in Ask before acting safeguard means Kimi will prompt you for explicit authorization before it modifies, overwrites, or runs code within your local directories. Nothing happens without your consent. They fail to mention that is has unfettered read access to your files. ie, without your consent.
- gruez 3mo ago>They fail to mention that is has unfettered read access to your files. Isn't that totally expected of a coding agent? Otherwise it's like complaining dropbox "has unfettered access to your files".
- postalcoder 3mo agoYes, but the answer is an indirection. “How does Kimi Work protect my privacy when accessing local files?” It doesn’t protect your privacy. It’s like asking, “how do I know you’re not spying on me?” And getting the reply “we cannot physically enter your house.”
- gruez 3mo ago>It doesn’t protect your privacy. It’s like asking, “how do I know you’re not spying on me?” And getting the reply “we cannot physically enter your house.” In light of the recent grok build snafu, "Nothing happens without your consent" seems like an upgrade. Moreover what are they supposed to do here? By that logic should any sort of non e2e email/storage provider not be able to put "How does [product] protect my privacy" in their faq? Looking through their privacy policy, it looks like the bigger issue is that they are (or refuse to refute) training on your data/prompts. That's probably what people should be complaining about rather than complaining about how it "has unfettered access to your files", when that describes all coding harnesses.
- gandalfgeek 3mo agowow -- "Let's take something off your plate" just copied word-for-word from the Claude Cowork UI. And it is above the fold in their hero image!
- dpacmittal 3mo agoGood. Anthropic, OpenAI, Google built their models by shameless training on works of millions of people without any compensation.
- matesz 3mo agoThat is an awful take. Although Silicon Valley's tech bros are shameless in their own way, there's no justification for symmetrizing the two.
- viktorcode 3mo agoFor all intents and purposes this is legal. As is distillation. No justification is needed.
- kakacik 2mo agoNo its pretty realistic. Nobody is losing their sleep when ultra-wealthy thief gets robbed for their stolen possessions or money made out of those, do they.
- throw10920 2mo agoThat's generally true, but consider this: If the consolidated (stolen) IP of millions of books remains under US LLM company control, then at the very least there's a chance of justice to be served to the creators in the future - a large lawsuit victory and change to the legal system that results in the ill-gotten gains being transferred to the original creators. If those proprietary models are distilled by the PRC, then that will never happen, because the PRC does not care about any sort of law (including their own) and will simply never return a single cent to the original US authors.
- ingvay7 3mo agoLooks like this can use webBridge, run Python and shell code in the background. Cowork can take over application UI as well which is still a differentiator (and a higher security risk) unless kimi offers it elsewhere.
- bnfcl 3mo agoPretty shameless copy, but also shows how easy it is to do so. OpenAI and Anthropic had first-mover advantage, but easy come, easy go.
- fbrncci 3mo agoSafe to say there is no moat.
- adventured 3mo agoYou mean other than the zillion dollars of infrastructure you need to run these systems for a billion users. And the extreme cost to sustain that operation day to day. And the cost to upgrade the infrastructure forever. Remind me which entities (govt or corporate) are going to subsidize that forever. Remind me which entities are going to front the cost just to scale up. By that premise - wherein you forget everything other than the first ingredient (the model) - Google has no moat either (got $100 billion dollars lying around?). Nor does Uber (have tens of billions in your bank account to clone their business?). I'm certain building an app (Uber), or building a search engine (Google), is the super duper hard part. Slapping a GUI on Linux will kill Windows, any day now.
- fbrncci 3mo agoSure if you want to bake a cake you also need to invent the universe first… As long open weight models get released; no moats are going to exist. Both windows and Linux are weak comparisons.
- blackoil 3mo agoIf money is the only moat, you'll see race to bottom till ROCE goes down to gsec returns.
- wasfgwp 3mo agoHyperscalers would generally be expected to sell compute to anyone who is willing to pay assuming that supply/demand for datacenter hardware evens out at some point that should become true again.
- fabiofzero 3mo agoIf this is what pops this bubble, I'll take it!
- adamlangsner 3mo agothis landing page looks like a cheap ripoff of google's antigravity: https://antigravity.google/ https://antigravity.google/
- OutOfHere 3mo agoWho cares. Competition is good for the user even if it's built on plagiarism. The other site was probably designed using an LLM anyway. LLMs can in some aspects converge wrt their outputs.
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- dvduval 3mo agoThe Chinese marketing blitz is on! Ha ha Guess where the models are gonna be hosted? Hint, not China.
- fHr 3mo agoChina copying shit blatantly haha but winning surely
- gizmodo59 3mo agothat looks exactly like the recent codex!
- grandimam 3mo agoIs there an opensource version of such a tool. I would really like a desktop app and use different models instead of a CLI.
- piker 3mo agoIt's a mistake to make this such an obvious copy. It will feed the narrative that Chinese entities cannot be trusted by the West. They could have varied it even slightly. It's one thing with hardware because customers don't need to trust suppliers any further than they can throw the box. But these labs seem to be battling for enterprise knowledge work-share. Trust is paramount, and they're already behind on that front. Own goal.
- catigula 3mo agoNarrative? Kind of like the sphere Earth narrative.
- BowBun 3mo agoPedantic. > A narrative is a structured account of connected events, experiences, or ideas, commonly referred to as a story Regardless of intent, it is how you tell your story.
- piker 3mo agoI don't think the comment was intended to be pedantic, but rather to reframe the message as scientific fact.
- catigula 3mo agoI think you misunderstood. “Narrative” typically frames something as polemic or open to interpretation, which this is about equally so to the whole “spherical Earth” story.
- prmoustache 3mo agoCopying is not frowned upon in the LLM ecosystem. This is its very reason of existence.
- piker 3mo agoPerhaps, but "we run the exact same business as Anthropic and OpenAI to the pixel at 0.1% the price" is going to raise eyebrows.
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- KronisLV 3mo agoI wish they'd embed the Code UI as a tab, similar to Claude Code Desktop. There's really no real reason for those tools to be separate and for them not to give me something a bit nicer than just a TUI in the terminal. They already have a locally runnable web UI when you have Kimi (the CLI) installed: https://www.kimi.com/help/kimi-code/cli-getting-started https://www.kimi.com/help/kimi-code/cli-getting-started kimi server run --foreground Though it's ever so slightly broken (the sub-agent tracking stop button does nothing, some toggles in the Settings are not toggleable and so on, really slows down with long conversations to the point where keyboard input lags by seconds, think 600+ turns). Personally, I still liked ZCode better and will probably write a blog post about my experience with K3 too, the harness might need some more work, but the model is really, really good.
- wxw 3mo ago> Kimi Work is a Local Agent designed for deep workflows. It mounts your local folders, navigates the web autonomously via WebBridge, runs Python code in the background, and executes scheduled tasks. It's clearly a dupe of Claude/Codex products (Codex especially, styling-wise), but I think Kimi's goal here is simply to appear on feature-parity with bigger labs. I doubt they'd want to invest much into designing a UI for "the future of agentic work" from the ground up. Their bread and butter and claim-to-fame will continue to be low-cost, near-frontier models, for which they need to at least appear to have some app layer to plug into. And, in some ways, duping is a great way to show people that even the app layer can be commoditized.
- piker 3mo agoIn that case is there not some open harness that demand can coalesce around?
- Maxatar 3mo agoThere are but then you're required to pay API prices for them which can end up costing significant multiples of the price of the subscription.
- jaggederest 3mo agoI am confused why they don't just offer a subscription with bring-your-own-harness, that would be a differentiator from claude/codex I think.
- sroussey 3mo agoNegative margins to have you hooked on someone else’s software?
- jaggederest 3mo agoI am gently presuming that they are not selling tokens at a loss in their all-you-can-eat plans like the frontier models are, but maybe I'm wrong.
- Havoc 3mo agoPeople saying copy aren't wrong...but if you can offer a copy at 1/5th of the price then you've got a winning product not a copy
- JacobAsmuth 3mo agoIs Kimi 1/5th the price? Artificial analysis has it at the same price as GPT 5.6 Sol while performing worse.
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- vardalab 3mo agoYeah, but maybe Kimi doesn't pretend to know better than I do. Like, I just had a task today where I had a silly form where I wanted to copy in a signature from one document to another document. And, you know, I could have just used some other dumb tools, but I decided, hey, let me us ask Codex to do it. But it started lecturing me on how we can't do this kind of stuff. And it was just pure silliness. So hopefully Kimi Work doesn't try to pretend that it knows better and lets me decide on ethics. This blog post here summed it up the best. These are tools, so let them be tools. https://geohot.github.io/blog/jekyll/update/2026/07/11/ai-2040.html https://geohot.github.io/blog/jekyll/update/2026/07/11/ai-20...
- palata 3mo agoAll bikes look the same, all cars look the same, all cameras look the same, all bridges, all dams, hell all smartphones look exactly the same! The whole goddamn point of UX is that you make something that is usable, and hence familiar to your users. People who say "I was making GPUs before them, and they built their own GPUs that behave like GPUs so they copied me" don't understand how stuff is built. The hard part in engineering is not "imagining the high-level concept", it's actually making it work. Even if you can open electronics and study it to design and build your own, it requires a lot of expertise. And if you manage to do it, then you are an expert, period. I'm sure many people find comfort in saying stuff like "You know what? I was a bit of a visionary because when I saw the first personal computer, I imagined that it would be cool if it could be orders of magnitudes faster and smaller such that it fits in a pocket". As if that was the hard part. Typically, too many people spend a lot of time talking about UI and stuff like "unpacking" as if that was the most important part. But usually that's because they have no idea about how it works under the hood, so the only thing to discuss is whether the round edges are great or not.
- iJohnDoe 3mo agoWill be cool until the AI goes ape shit and starts deleting all your files, wipes out your corporate file share, but not before uploading it all online. Not saying Kimi will do this, but it's perfectly reasonable to expect this to happen, because there is really nothing anyone can do to prevent it. No, this is not meant to go in an isolated VM on a Linux box in a cheap VPS somehwere. This is meant for regular home users and corporate users to install on their primary system where all their personal and corporate data is available. The above is a PSA (public service announcement) not just for Kimi, but also for GPT and Claude. If you don't understand how it's impossible to prevent the above from happening, then you should never use one of these tools.
- dakolli 3mo agoNobody actually producing hard goods, real world value and actual software are using these cute tools. Its completely worthless to people actually doing things.
- aliasxneo 3mo agoHas anyone cancelled their $200 ChatGPT subscription and started using Kimi? It'd be an interesting metric to measure. I for one have no motivation to use this model. Nonetheless, I'm always happy to see more competition.
- sixtyj 3mo agoThere should be a benchmark re Tiananmen Square and Uyghurs among LLMs. Grok answered, ChatGPT answered, Claude answered. Chinese Z.ai replied “Content Security Warning: The input text data may contain inappropriate content“. So it is nice that Kimi is cheaper but for what price?
- HarHarVeryFunny 3mo agoSo for your Tiananmen questions go to Fable, and for the Fable-nerfed subject matter go to Kimi (or GLM, as Hugging Face were forced to do when they were recently hacked and the nerfed US models refused to analyze it).
- literallywho 3mo agoI've been subbing to Claude for 2 years and somehow the questions of whatever happened in Tiananmen (I know already anyway) have never once came up, but Claude (especially Fable) is now famous for refusing to work on things people want. And even pushed back against me when I was doing asking to research some people famous (infamous) in Israel-Palestine conflict. I really don't get why these "chinese gotchas" are keep coming up in every thread, they are mostly entirely inconsequential to getting actual work stuff done while same can't be said about Fable or others. Once, Gemini refused to help me make an infographic about women in STEM because the specific woman I was doing research about has died a few years ago, other models had no such qualms. All these "gotchas" are quite arbitrary.
- mempko 3mo agoI can second this. I was using Fable for some research and fable said it wasn't going to do it and downgraded to opus. Switched to K3 and continued my work. And it worked really well for what I was doing. You can easily switch claude code to use K3, it took like 30 seconds.
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- LAH0009 3mo agoRead the privacy policy.
- robertheadley 3mo agoThey already have a hosted version of openclaw https://www.kimi.com https://www.kimi.com › bot
- bofadeez 3mo agoThey're running like 10 tokens per second, constantly timing out, and launching new products? How about deploy some inference GPUs first
- dmix 3mo agoWhen they release Kimi Design and I'll consider moving over
- scottfits 3mo agowhile it's true the model layer is getting commoditized, there is absolutely no way we are migrating any serious enterprise workflows to Kimi work. i think chinese models will continue to have an adoption problem.
- FooBarWidget 3mo agoI'm kinda confused given that they're from China. The Chinese Internet is very different from the western Internet. The web is way smaller, and a lot of useful content is behind app-based walled ecosystems such as Wechat, Douyin and Xiaohongshu. This makes web automation much less useful. And I don't see them marketing something like Wechat automation?
- angst 3mo agoso...GUI/closed source version of their @MoonshotAI/kimi-code TUI? https://github.com/MoonshotAI/kimi-code https://github.com/MoonshotAI/kimi-code
- crypto_is_king 3mo agoAlso known as the "Xi Jinpeng learns about your business" app.
- mrmiraclebr 3mo agoI surely hope so!
- 2001zhaozhao 3mo agoI wonder when they are going to start realizing that on-premises self-hosted is the solution over local
- aussieguy1234 3mo agoAgents are quite capable for any work involving CLI (not TUI) applications. Seems to work for me to manage my emails. I have Proton Mail bridge and `mbsync` dumping all mail to a local folder, with an inotify watch script to react to new emails and classify them as either needing my attention (ignore) or something that does need my attention (send me a notification). I've been looking for a good CLI spreadsheet editor
- senectus1 3mo agoNot available for linux... thats pretty disappointing.
- fhub 3mo agoThe most astonishing thing to me about the AI boom is that nobody really has managed to establish vendor lock-in. Switching is so easy.
- N_Lens 3mo agoIt's like this in the early days of any technology. It reminds me of the early days of the internet before everything became hyper optimised algorithms. It's like the late stages of a monopoly game - it's not fun for anyone except the main winner.
- aussieguy1234 3mo agoIf history is anything to go by, in the next week we'll see a distill of GPT 5.6 or Mythos that is not as powerful as either, but pokes its head just in front of Kimi K3.
- aussieguy1234 2mo agoNot even 4 days later: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5
- sara011 3mo agoI feel that Kimi’s overall design is quite similar to Codex, and I hope it can excel over Codex in certain functional aspects.
- bogometer 3mo agoAm i the only one that is wary of connecting kimi to my desktop and filesystem. Very different beast than using its API via OpenRouter.
- spstoyanov 2mo agoIt's not only you, I am really curious about their data privacy.
- AyanamiKaine 3mo agoYou know what, all of the computer power and so. They still can’t vibe develop a Linux client.
- nunodonato 3mo agothis was my first thought...
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- EchooAI 3mo agoSomeone knows how I can use Kimi from Pi Code Agent?
- nunodonato 3mo agoif you have an API key, its as easy as configuring any other model/provider
- replete 3mo agoAmusingly, the WebBridge video demo[0] shows the model incorrectly including the answers into the question field [0]: https://www.kimi.com/features/webbridge https://www.kimi.com/features/webbridge
- nunodonato 3mo agoFor anyone looking for truly open alternatives to desktop agent apps (like claude cowork), I suggest taking a peak at Goose: https://goose-docs.ai https://goose-docs.ai
- ben8bit 3mo agoI'm surprised by the negative its-a-copy sentiment. Of course it is. Just like Linear/Mailchimp/etc. (almost everything) are copies of other things. These harness+work apps are becoming a product category and I'm excited about this from the Kimi/Moonshot team. In the end, more competition in this space can only be good for the user.
- ZackMomily 2mo agoThe potential for local agents to handle the heavy lifting is incredible. When I'm deep in complex technical work, I rely on Taskai on my Android to capture all those small, distracting tasks that pop up so I can stay in the zone.
- jkwang 2mo agoThe local-first approach for agent workflows is compelling — keeping context on-device addresses real privacy concerns in enterprise settings. Curious how it handles long-running task state persistence.
- jmacd 2mo agoEveryone calling this a copy is willfully overlooking that the major labs are nakedly copying each other AND smaller vendors constantly. Codex and Claude Code didn't just materialize at the same time. And frankly, they both copied Aider in the beginning. Then there is reasoning itself. Agent SDKs. On and on. This isn't a game of hide and seek. It's a race. The fact that Kimi is Chinese doesn't make their stride any more a copy than 90% of what the major labs are outputting these days.
- JSR_FDED 2mo agoTo me all these coding tools look indistinguishable from each other. If you changed the logo on one I wouldn’t notice.
- BetterThanSober 2mo agoI wonder how those AI company can snatch a very good domains and how much did they pay, z.ai is just peak
- chrisss395 2mo agoHas anyone tried this for things like Excel models and PowerPoints? And any reactions to how it compares to Claude? I’ve seen lots of flashy examples, but a lot of knowledge work is not this, and more synthesis of sources and information in to structured content.