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ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
- linzhangrun 3mo agoeager for zcode-cli. and their coding plan is always selled out.
- brcmthrowaway 3mo agoTelemetry enabled?
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- aziis98 3mo agoIs this GUI only?
- InsideOutSanta 3mo agoYes.
- 7e 3mo agoGLM-5.2 seems capable. It’s just much slower than Opus.
- shayankh 3mo agohow is this cheaper?
- spudlyo 3mo ago[dead]
- m3h 3mo agoZ.ai documents integrations with nearly all the popular CLI-based agents: https://docs.z.ai/devpack/tool/others https://docs.z.ai/devpack/tool/others If you're already used to your TUI coding agent, you don't need the desktop agent. Although it is nice that it is there for folks who prefer the Codex App/Claude App UI approach.
- m3h 3mo agoAlso, kudos to the Z.ai team for adding Linux support from day one.
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- InsideOutSanta 3mo agoYeah, I use GLM 5.2 in OpenCode, running in a Docker container with CodeNomad as the web-based GUI. It works perfectly; I can access it from anywhere, and it runs all models (except for Anthropic's subscriptions).
- owentbrown 3mo agoFrom your experience, is it comparable to Claude Code with Opus 4.8? How does it feel? How do the two differ?
- InsideOutSanta 3mo agoIt's comparable, but not the same. For some tasks, it's better. Opus refuses tasks for me pretty regularly. GLM 5.2 has never refused a task. So for anything security-related or that touches on topics that trigger Opus's safety guardrails, I use GLM 5.2. OTOH, for anything related to UI design, I use Opus 4.8. It's much better at taking relatively vague descriptions of user interfaces and a mockup of a related UI and combining them into an immaculate design. For anything else, I tend to run tasks in Opus and then have GLM review them and write a Markdown file with anything it finds. Then I have Opus review the markdown file and fix the issues it agrees with. The reason I usually go with Opus 4.8 first is mainly that it's faster. Opus 4.8 is, on average, about twice as fast as GLM 5.2 running on z'ai's infrastructure for the same task. There's a large variance (sometimes GLM 5.2 is pretty fast and Opus 4.8 is pretty slow), but on average it's a very noticeable difference. When I run into Anthropic's Quota, I switch to GLM 5.2 rather than Sonnet. I don't think there's much reason to ever use Sonnet for anything if you can use GLM 5.2 instead. This is all pretty subjective, of course. On average, I think Opus 4.8 is still a better, more reliable, and faster model, but if it went away tomorrow and I only had GLM 5.2, I wouldn't be too sad about it; I'd get things done with GLM 5.2 just fine.
- seizethecheese 3mo agoI'm somewhat surprised that this is not open source (from what I can tell). Compare to Mimo Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code (which is a CLI, while this is a desktop app).
- dizhn 3mo agoIt's only a cli because they yanked out the opencode desktop code. (As well as the opencode go/zen model provider) Edit: my theory is they wanted to mimic being the primary provider in a quick way with a lot of string replace. Though they could have added opencode back as a regular provider.
- versteegen 3mo agoMiMo Code adds a lot of cool orchestration features to OpenCode! It definitely is NOT a quick find-replace job, it's genuinely someone's research project to create a better agent harness building on top of free software, and that's awesome. See https://mimo.xiaomi.com/blog/mimo-code-long-horizon https://mimo.xiaomi.com/blog/mimo-code-long-horizon
- dizhn 3mo agoThey did remove the opencode provider though and the desktop and web interfaces. I was trying to be charitable. By the way, their repo was a bit weird with no changelogs at all. It seems to be picking up speed now with their communication. I actually read in the changelog just now that their Compose (plan/executre/review etc. something like that) flow is now deterministic with software instead of just prompts. That could be really good.
- SwellJoe 3mo agoI don't even know what I would do with a desktop app. I'm running these things in headless VMs, so I can run them with `--dangerously-skip-permissions` or whatever. I don't trust them, even without that flag, on my desktop/laptop.
- paxys 3mo agoUI-wise this looks a lot closer to Codex than Claude Code. It's basically an exact copy of Codex.
- hazelnut 3mo agoI would very much agree. Even the hand icon, the usage in the text field, and the sidebar style are 1:1 identical to Codex. It's a misleading title - it's not close the Claude Code.
- scotty79 3mo agoWhich makes keeping Codex closed source look even sillier. Software is no longer anyone's moat. Just let it go.
- toddmorey 3mo agoDoes anyone use an agnostic TUI or harness for development tasks that can fairly seamlessly switch between providers? I'm wanting local context in the spirit of "here are 3 AI providers available, for coding tasks use this one... and for writing prose use this one... and for generating images use this one..." etc.
- daytonix 3mo agohave used both pi and opencode for the last 6 months, haven't opened a proprietary harness (cc, codex, cursor) in that same amount of time. right now i'm on pi and i can switch seamlessly between any model across any provider i want, even mid session. can even point them at locally running models. i think people don't realize how much better life is over on this side, cc and codex rely entirely on vendor lock in imo.
- l00sed 3mo agoHaha I pretty much commented the same thing one minute apart.
- esafak 3mo agowhy did you switch from oc to pi?
- daytonix 3mo agoi like the more minimal design of the tui, feels more integrated with my existing terminal workflows. oc always looked a little out of place. i really like pi's extension ecosystem as well.
- alexfortin 3mo agoSame here. Moving from OC to Pi also taught me one more time that less is more and I don't need most of the features I thought I needed.
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- dizhn 3mo agoThis comes with a little bit of free credits. (after login)
- dizhn 3mo agoIt did last week. Wow. That didn't last long.
- KronisLV 3mo agoLooks quite pretty! Not sure if I want to try that instead of OpenCode, maybe. OpenCode also has a desktop app, I will admit that I like their TUI one better (and honestly more than Claude Code TUI) but whole the desktop version is kinda more basic, it's nice enough: https://opencode.ai/download https://opencode.ai/download That said, it's interesting that they're releasing a bunch of stuff: ZCode, OCR.z.ai, Image.z.ai, Audio.z.ai, AutoClaw and some other stuff that https://chat.z.ai/ https://chat.z.ai/ links to. That's a lot of stuff for one org to pull off. Figured I'd try out their Pro coding plan, seems like it doesn't necessarily give me that much quota than Opus (at least given how many tokens are needed for accomplishing a certain task), but GLM 5.2 in of itself seems like a beefier Sonnet model, pretty good.
- bitlad 3mo agoTheir tui is quite heavy and crashing quite often as compared to claude code.
- dimgl 3mo agoWhich are you talking about? OpenCode or ZCode?
- bitlad 3mo agoOpenCode
- Computer0 3mo agoI would agree I cannot bear to use the TUI and I find myself in the terminal quite often. The value is good on the $10 plan so I still get decent usage on the desktop client but I would prefer a better terminal interface.
- real0mar 3mo agoYou can use the opencode subscription plan with other agents if you wish. They allow it
- esafak 3mo agoI tried it but went back to OC, which feels smarter. It does have a 1.5x usage promotion for GLM 5.2 on the coding plan so now is a good time to test it...
- unleaded 3mo agoAs someone who doesnt use these tools, why does every AI company need their own version of Claude Code? Is there more to it than vendor lock-in?
- theredleft 3mo agoimplementing their own version of steganographic monitoring lol
- dcre 3mo agoA joke but also not a joke.
- ambicapter 3mo ago"Quality" of the harness matters a lot to the user experience, and the construction of the harness will depend on the behavior/quirks of the underlying model. So, if you're using Claude Code, you can expect it to work best with Anthropic models, and expect other model-makers to want you to use the harness they've developed. But mostly vendor lock-in, I imagine.
- computerex 3mo agoWhy not? They are relatively easy to make so why not. Even I made one: https://github.com/computerex/z https://github.com/computerex/z
- cheesecakegood 3mo agoThere are different grades of vendor lock-in. There's mechanical lock-in (which is a thing, like .claude folders) and economic lock-in but then we don't pay enough attention to behavioral lock-in. Habit is powerful, and if you can habituate users into a certain flow, change feels bad and they are more likely to stay.
- teravor 3mo agoit's an electron app, it highlights wrong spelling but doesn't suggest corrections. how does someone exhibit so much incompetence?
- d3Xt3r 3mo agoFor GLM Coding Plan subscribers, quota consumed via Coding Plan for GLM-5.2 in ZCode is discounted by the coefficients below — the same usage draws down less quota, roughly 1.5x the effective allowance. Peak hours (14:00–18:00 daily) 3x -> 2x Off-peak (remaining 20 hours) 1x -> 0.67x I wonder whether that is referring to local time, or CST (UTC+8)?
- qaz_plm 3mo agoPeak hours are 14:00–18:00 (UTC+8) https://docs.z.ai/devpack/overview https://docs.z.ai/devpack/overview
- d3Xt3r 3mo agoThanks. Those are some odd hours though, why would evening time be peak hours? Usually (in the western world anyway), 9AM - 12PM would be peak hours. Things normally slow down post-lunch, and be its slowest at close-of-business.
- TurdF3rguson 3mo agoBecause westerners are using it is my guess and for them that's right in your window
- VulgarExigency 3mo agoThey're peak hours in Beijing
- kgeist 3mo agoI run a corporate AI server and coding peak hours here are 1PM-5PM judging by AI usage stats. My guess is that people spend 9AM-12PM in meetings and at lunch, and the actual coding starts around 1 PM.
- dadoum 3mo agoFrom https://z.ai/subscribe#code-plans-container https://z.ai/subscribe#code-plans-container: > Explanation and Recommendations Regarding Usage for Plan-Supported Models > Note: Peak hours are from 14:00 to 18:00 daily (UTC+8).
- Aeroi 3mo agosweet! i'm heaviliy using glm 5.2 in mouse.dev which is great for mobile. the ui looks really good, similar to cursor agents window ect.
- gck1 3mo agoIt's sad to see that the teams that have the most resources that can contribute to development of next-gen harnesses are essentially copying the same exact thing from each other, with no meaningful changes. And most of the advancement and experimentation happens in some random 0-star github repos.
- nadermx 3mo agoThere the ones with most to prove
- gtirloni 3mo agoCould you share some of these 0-star github repos?
- gck1 3mo agoI've been working on my own private harness for the past 8 months, and I've been collecting ideas from such repos I've stumbled upon. pi-tmux is one such example (seems to be archived now) which inspired me to use tmux as communication layer and provide visibility of subagents of multiple models in their native harnesses [1]. There's also herdr, which is not 0-stars, but is super interesting but lesser known project [2]. This also has interesting substrates to allow agent coordination. None of these are harnesses per se, but they're pointing towards clear gaps in existing harnesses. For example, we've known for a while now that compounding knowledge of different class of models achieves better performance. Why is there no harness where this is a native functionality? And there's no harness where subagents are first class citizens both in terms of capabilities and UX. [1] https://github.com/offline-ant/pi-tmux https://github.com/offline-ant/pi-tmux [2] https://github.com/ogulcancelik/herdr https://github.com/ogulcancelik/herdr
- swe_dima 3mo agoIs it possible to use their subscription pricing with Opencode?
- qaz_plm 3mo agoI use the coding subscription in both Pi and OpenCode without issue.
- guybedo 3mo agoif you're going to try this one out, don't be surprised to get this message repeatedly, like 4 out of 5 prompts you're trying to send, 24/7, this is gonna be your new friend, then you'll learn to write the only prompt that matters: "retry", "retry", "retry" Here's the message: "Cannot connect to API: write EPIPE"
- maxloh 3mo agoI don't find a closed-source Chinese agent system trustworthy. It is essentially a black box with full user permissions, meaning you are just handing over your entire system to a Chinese-owned server. With OpenCode and its GLM provider, at least I can monitor which files were read, which were edited, and what commands were executed. Not to mention that Chinese national security laws legally obligate companies to cooperate with state intelligence and counter-espionage efforts [0]. If you have this installed on a corporate workstation, and your company is large enough, the possibility of them spying on you is not just a risk—it's almost a certainty. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Law_of_the_People https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Law_of_t...
- Escapado 3mo agoI agree. I don't find the US competitors trustworthy either. I think open source is the way here.
- simjnd 3mo agoThank you. It doesn't make sense to me how much people trust our companies so much more than Chinese ones for no reason. This country has an abysmal track record when it comes to respecting its citizen's rights or privacy. Propaganda working as intended I suppose.
- estearum 3mo agoIf you think the US has an "abysmal" track record on this, what words would you use to describe China's track record?
- D2OQZG8l5BI1S06 3mo ago"abysmal" probably.
- Yiin 3mo agodepends if you look through China citizen point of view or someone in the west
- Art9681 3mo agoYea not touching this with an any-foot pole. They are just keeping up with the Joneses now. There is no reason for this to exist but there IS a reason it is not open source. ;)
- TurdF3rguson 3mo agoIsn't competition and open markets a reason for this to exist?
- scotty79 3mo agoFunny, I think the same about Claude.
- cube00 3mo agoIt's impressive all these companies are getting away with "base usage allowance included" [1] or "standard limits" [2], layering the higher plans as a multiplier of that "base" but never disclosing what it is. I guess the base is whatever the profit margin needs to be this month. [1]: https://zcode.z.ai/en#:~:text=Base%20usage%20allowance%20included https://zcode.z.ai/en#:~:text=Base%20usage%20allowance%20inc... [2]: https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/16275805?hl=en#:~:text=an%20AI%20plan-,Standard%20limts,-AI%20Plus https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/16275805?hl=en#:~:t...
- nucleative 3mo agoA strategy that can backfire. An unpredictable tool is worse than a bad tool.
- ranyume 3mo agoWhen running the app, it actually tells you what the base usages are, but the name of the plans are different from the page. It reads: Start plan: 5 Million tokens a day (GLM-5.2 3M, GLM-5 Turbo 2M) For individuals: (+150% quota) $18.00USD+ For individual developers with a dedicated Coding Plan quota.
- SwellJoe 3mo agoNow, if only we can figure out what all the others are providing as part of their subscriptions we can compare. (Though 3 million tokens of the top model per day seems kinda low. But, I guess that's what the 5x plan is for. I'd still like to be able to compare against all the big providers.)
- fastball 3mo agoThis isn't a CLI, so not really like Claude Code. Looks more like Cursor or Conductor.
- MangoCoffee 3mo agoi like Chinese open weight model that offer cheap token but i only use it for my personal project. China have a history of stealing IPs/trade secrets and Chinese court favored its own local companies. while US have a robust court that can enforce IPs. if you want to risk your company's IPs/trade secrets/data for some cheap token. Go ahead and use Z.ai's services.
- kingjimmy 3mo agoFYI you can use Z.AI models on infra not in China...
- snemvalts 3mo agoBut this harness app is chinese?
- brcmthrowaway 3mo agoWhat's your top secret project?
- rurban 3mo agoThe US of A ditto
- pl04351820 3mo agoTry to understand the token usage/cost with subscription plan comparing with Claude Pro. Is there benchmark somewhere for such info?
- andai 3mo agoI think they market is as 3x the usage for the same price. Although, the prices are not the same, and Anthropic's usage constantly changes, so...
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- sourdecor 3mo agoThe original submission was to [0] which I feel must be mentioned. [0]: https://zcode.z.ai/cn https://zcode.z.ai/cn
- dang 3mo agoYou're referring to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48751752 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48751752, which was the third submission of this. The original submission was in fact to https://zcode.z.ai/en https://zcode.z.ai/en, so I took that one and re-upped it in order to have a place to merge the thread. Seemed fairest!
- jedisct1 3mo agoGLM-5.2 is a great model! But it already works really well with existing harnesses, I'm not sure why a dedicated one is needed? I use it with https://swival.dev https://swival.dev and everything works perfectly, no tool calling issues and it works fine with long sessions.
- ahmedehab_01 3mo agoI don't get why not open source it? You are already open-sourcing your weights!
- NamlchakKhandro 3mo agoFor those that want something based on Pi Mono: - https://igorwarzocha.github.io/howcode/ https://igorwarzocha.github.io/howcode/ - https://github.com/ruuxi/stella https://github.com/ruuxi/stella - https://www.pi-gui.com/ https://www.pi-gui.com/ Not using Pi, but based on PI (no extensions possible) - https://twotimespi.dev/ https://twotimespi.dev/
- MarceloHenry 3mo agoIs there a CLI version of it?
- WhitneyLand 3mo agoWhat’s with the 3 subscription plans that are suggestive of being mapped to plans from Anthropic and Open AI? Do they really correspond roughly? Seems like they’re trying to suggest a discount while still being worth a significant amount of monthly spend.
- MarceloHenry 3mo agoCan anyone tell me if Z.AI's cheapest plan is more or less generous than Claude's cheapest plan? If it is more or less generous, could you describe the extent of the difference? (If this comment is too formal, I'm sorry. I used Google Translate to it [this line was NOT translated])
- zackify 3mo agoI got around 17m tokens on glm 5.2 then blocked for 4 days on the weekly limit on that plan.
- MarceloHenry 3mo ago17M tokens... I think it is a lot. What were you working on?
- bearjaws 3mo agoIs that 17M output tokens? At 200k context that is only 85 requests for a whole week.
- davikr 3mo agoThat's like 30 minutes of MCP usage.
- computerex 3mo agoNot really. I have spent 163M deepseek v4 flash tokens in July and it literally just started. https://i.postimg.cc/MHhgwsv0/image.png https://i.postimg.cc/MHhgwsv0/image.png
- MarceloHenry 3mo agoI definetily cannot spent too much token in a single month
- sourdecor 3mo agoThose are some odd hours though, why would evening time be peak hours? Usually (in the western world anyway), 9AM - 12PM would be peak hours.
- brianjking 3mo agoZ.ai is based in China and serves out of Singapore, that's surely why.
- Nekorosu 3mo agoHow about no? I'd rather use something open source and local. We have enough of 3rd party controlled AI tools.
- ra 3mo agoI've been using this for a few weeks and it's a real workhorse.
- ernsheong 3mo agoIs there any desktop coding app that can be used with local LLM?
- hdz 3mo agoWhen the harnesses commoditize, it will be the dynamic things like skills that will be the most valuable, useful thing you can bring to a harness. That seems like a long ways away though. There are still meaningful performance differences between agent harnesses.
- mosbyllc 3mo agoThere are now more and more Harness clients. I hope we can have the best open-source client and the best open-source models, as this would greatly facilitate our work and operations. However, this seems unlikely in the short term.
- soni_anuj 3mo agowhat is then VS code with GitHub Copilot ? It primarily does the similar things.
- daft_pink 3mo agoI couldn’t find if it is soc 2 etc
- luoshi 3mo agoCoding plans are often out of stock, it's miraculous
- vinceguidry 3mo agoHas anyone come up with a decent harness for small local models, say, gemma4 e4b? I'm trying to roll my own but man, the capability gap is real.
- yogthos 3mo agoThis is precisely what I've been working on targeting with https://dirge-code.github.io/ https://dirge-code.github.io/ I've written up an explanation of what trips small models ups and how the harness can address that here https://yogthos.net/posts/2026-06-08-dirge-code.html https://yogthos.net/posts/2026-06-08-dirge-code.html
- Terretta 3mo agoThis really resonates. Thanks for mentioning.
- quantumleaper 3mo agoDo you have benchmarks comparing against Pi? The blog post doesn't include any hard numbers. For example, so far I haven't seen any evidence that LSP integration improves performance for small models vs using grep via a bash tool.
- yogthos 3mo agoI haven't really seen anybody come up with a good test to show hard numbers on comparing agentic harnesses. It's a bit tricky to set up a definitive test given the whole non deterministic nature of LLMs. What I've been focusing on is watching the loop and seeing where model does things that it shouldn't have to. For example, I notice models doing stuff like writing python scripts to match parens for Clojure all the time using editors like Pi. So, having a mechanical way to repair parens, and when that fails, to give the model clear error regarding where syntax is broken removes that whole cycle. As it stands, it's kind of subjective, you just have to try the harness and see if the model seems to be have better than with the other ones you've been using.
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- adithyassekhar 3mo agoThe plans on first glance is the same as Anthropic’s. I thought GLM was supposed to be cheaper. Am I missing something?
- colelyman 3mo agoThe plans may have comparable prices, but the API rates are much cheaper. Especially because it is open weights, so there is competition on places like OpenRouter.
- wmedrano 3mo agoI haven't tried Z.ai, but both Ollama ($20) and OpencodeGo ($10) seem to give me more generous limits than the Claude $20
- msh 3mo agoThey give you much better quotas, on the 20USD plan using opus you will quickly run into limits.
- emersoftware 3mo agoliterally I paid in the morning for the pro plan and then they launched this. currently are my fav lab after Anthropic.
- taytus 3mo agoLucky you! I'm considering switching from Kimi 2.7. What's your experience so far?
- denct 3mo agoDoes it support Azure openai and aws bedrock models as well?
- roguedemon 3mo agocool to see how fast they are catching up
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- razfar 3mo agoFor anyone who uses GPT-5.5/Codex as their daily driver, how does GLM-5.2/ZCode compare, esp in a codebase already set up for agentic coding?
- ramon156 3mo agoTLDR GLM will take a lot longer to do a task, and maybe spend more tokens depending how complex it is Its a hell of a lot cheaper though, so for me its worth it. I have more claude experience though, and I would say its almost en par with Opus 4.1
- redox99 3mo agoIt's cheaper if you pay API prices. If you pay a gpt sub then codex is much much cheaper.
- gpt5 3mo agoGLM 5.2 is in an uncanny valley where it's too big to run at home, too expensive and slow in comparison to similarly capable model (a good chart here - https://deepswe.datacurve.ai/ https://deepswe.datacurve.ai/), and that's just comparing API prices. When looking at subscription offering by Anthropic and OpenAI, it's not even comparable, as a Codex $200 subscription can easily use a billion tokens per week on GPT 5.5 high/xhigh. It's an interesting model from the perspective of being the most capable open weight model. But it doesn't have a solid place in this marketplace right now.
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- asasidh 3mo agoOpenRouter + Current IDE for me. Cant be buying a new plan and change IDE every time a new model drops beyond testing for curiosity.
- oxedom 3mo agoClosed source? No Thanks
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- speedping 3mo agoFirst-party harnesses are great, but i'd really wish this was a CLI and not a GUI
- elAhmo 3mo agoWith Musk buying Cursor, it is good to have more alternatives on the market.
- Artoooooor 3mo agoI could use them as a provider if they shown concrete price per token. Or concrete number of tokens in each plan. Now I don't know what I would rent from them. If I were to buy hell knows what, I would go to Anthropic.
- jFriedensreich 3mo agoseparation of model and tooling is as important as legislative and judicative, and just ignore any tooling or harness not true open source. they will all slowly creep into your life and choke you trying to lock you in.
- finnjohnsen2 3mo agono ACP support it seems :( Of all the AI buzzwords I love ACP because of the separation of concern. Let the editor be an editor, the harness be the ai code agent, and the llm be the llm
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- maxdo 3mo agoInteresting to see how their harness will show up here. So far, https://cursor.com/evals https://cursor.com/evals this even shows still a big gap in performance, and almost no real win in terms of money vs gpt5.5 and sonnet 5. Which make me raise a question. Why would I install a close source black box, that will send data to a country that you can't make legally liable for even most crazy miss doings. The market of a hosted commercial version of glm is very weird. yeah you can deploy an open source version or run it locally, sure. This.... hm, i don't know why any company would take any risks to use GLM
- orloffm 3mo agoHow is this different from installing Claude Code or Codex? Maybe in the US someone has some hopes about having those makers "legally liable", but in Europe both US and China products seem equally far away and equally closed in all senses.
- maxdo 3mo agoYeah that’s why Google lost 4 billion to EU for some elusive non competitive practices. Every single big tech us company is never out of court in eu. Good luck brining any of Chinese companies for distillation . They steal your IP , your data and you have 0 protection .
- kennywinker 3mo agoIf distillation is stealing, then so is generating code using an ai model. It’s the same thing: prompt a model, use the output to make software. Not to mention, claude and gpt only exist because of massive ip theft in the first place.
- maxdo 3mo agoyeah, sure, laws are just pointless things. Lets move to caves and if I kill you first , i'm right, if not i lost. THat's your logic. there is ToS, and every single person who is doing distillation knows it's illegal. Also on IP theft. There were several courts, in different countries they limit certain knowledge bases and thats it. so that entire claim is baseless. Again this is the difference. A major book publisher brought ai companies to court and won. You can't doo anything with Chinese companies even if you are book publisher of this world.
- hsyvy 3mo agois there cli version available for this harness?
- debamitro 3mo agowonder why anyone would use this when GLM-5.2 is available in multiple coding harnesses already
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