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ChatGPT for Google Sheets exfiltrates workbooks
- jonplackett 4mo agoSo is your business model to expose AI security issues and then sell the solution?
- elliotbnvl 4mo agoThe lethal trifecta strikes again.
- CharlesW 4mo agoReference: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/ https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/
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- rvz 4mo agoTurns out that some of the people building the software with AI have no clue how to secure them or even know it is riddled with security holes added by the AI. Pure vibes.
- dakolli 4mo agoEven the people that do know better are so lazy now because of LLMs these things are happening at a rapid clip.The only thing that matters now is speed and chasing the dopamine dragon of pseudo productivity.
- grim_io 4mo agoI don't think anyone is surprised by it. People are not vibe-coding zombies... yet. It's a matter of one trillion-dollar company not falling behind another trillion-dollar company. They know what they are doing and are OK with it.
- cheschire 4mo agomoving all of the fast and breaking all of the things
- airstrike 4mo agoAs it turns out, we do need some proper application layer to do real, secure work with AI, and just plugging in LLMs into confidential or critical infrastructure willy nilly doesn't work.
- simonw 4mo ago> This attack occurs when any untrusted data source (e.g., from an imported sheet or ChatGPT connector) manipulates ChatGPT to run an attacker-controlled external script, which executes leveraging permissions the user has granted to the ChatGPT for Google Sheets extension. Yeah, I don't like the sound of that at all.
- milkshakes 4mo agoit looks like the key to this working is the user explicitly directing the model to run those instructions. in this case it is the user, not the model that is being manipulated > Please follow the step-by-step workflow in the comp sheet to update my model with data thru F29
- lionkor 4mo agoIf I get annoyed with the confirmation prompts for file edits, I can just tell codex to get around that, at which point it will simply `cat >>` into files instead. LLMs are too smart to be limited by silly technological constraints.
- dvt 4mo agoLLMs can live in the cloud, but all tools need to be (1) local, and (2) containerized. It's clear to me that just willy-nilly "running stuff" is going to blow things up eventually. Maybe folks don't know this, but even Codex installs random binaries on your PC. "Read this PDF" installs a pdf reader executable. Is it vetted? Where's it from? Is it a virus? Who knows, who cares. Model goes brrrr. I'm working on a project that includes WASI containerization for local LLM workflows (which is a pretty tough problem), and I'm flabbergasted that Anthropic and OpenAI aren't more worried about these attack vectors. It feels like amateur hour.
- torben-friis 4mo ago>"Read this PDF" installs a pdf reader executable. How does this work regarding Macos notarization btw?
- fragmede 4mo agoWhat does notarization have to do with that? You or ChatGPT or whatever download a signed and already notarized binary.
- torben-friis 4mo agoThat was kind of my question, whether it was restricted to downloading notarized apps (which is at least something) or whether they were circumventing that somehow.
- fragmede 4mo agoLocally compiled code doesn't need to be notarized, if that's what you're asking. Or a dose of xattr -d.
- dvt 4mo agoI was actually curious, on my Mac, it uses `gs -q -sDEVICE=txtwrite -o output.txt input.pdf` (not sure why I have Ghostscript installed, maybe Adobe?) to read a PDF, and on my PC it just rawdogs `pdftotext`.
- xmcp123 4mo ago>This vulnerability was responsibly disclosed to OpenAI. Despite multiple follow-ups, we received no communication beyond an automated reply to our initial disclosure. Well, that’s not cute.
- system2 4mo agoSomeone in the comments claims to be from OpenAI and is giving some updates. This also proves that until social media puts pressure on companies, they won't care. Nothing new to see here.
- replwoacause 4mo agoJust embarrassing behavior from OpenAI. Is it laziness? Why does it take public ridicule for these companies to get a shit.
- csomar 4mo agoThey are hype machines. They are driven by that and only care about that. That's why they cared once this went public and viral.
- SkyBelow 4mo ago>responsibly disclosed Isn't this a double plus good phrase? What makes this more responsible? Reasoning about first order effects of different disclosure models? But what if someone uses higher order reasoning and critical thinking to reach a conclusion that other disclosure models are better for the average user and the long term health of the industry, even if they are worse in any individual case. A difference in the security culture incentivized by different disclosure patterns. Why does this one win the name of responsible while other alternatives, which have never been proven to be worse, are automatically marked as irresponsible? Reminds me a bit of the concept of identity theft, as a way to say that even though the bank (or other creditor) was the one who had money taken from them, it is actually the random person not involved in the transaction who is the victim and has to hold the debt until the issue is resolved.
- Groxx 4mo ago>This attack occurs when any untrusted data source (e.g., from an imported sheet or ChatGPT connector) manipulates ChatGPT to run an attacker-controlled external script, which executes leveraging permissions the user has granted to the ChatGPT for Google Sheets extension. So... does this imply "requires permission to run scripts without approval"? Or is that something that it can always do? >Note: ChatGPT for Google Sheets has a setting called ‘Apply edits automatically’ that determines when human approvals are required before an agentic action completes. However, this attack succeeds even when the user has explicitly disabled automatic edits. Yeah, that makes sense, it's not editing the sheet. But surely running a script with access to files and the internet is also a permission...? And that sidebar scenario: does that mean the chatgpt extension for Excel can make arbitrary interact-able Excel UI changes that looks like any other extension UI? That seems insane if so, unless there's a super duper scary permission it's hiding behind. And it's still insane after that. I mean, this is all par for the course for "AI" "security", but what
- e12e 4mo agoHow long did it take from the first macro virus until the industry accepted that "we can't have nice things (at this cost to security)" - macros were defaulted to off everywhere? How long until the industry accept the risk LLMs pose with "prompt injection"?
- smokel 4mo agoWell, people used MS-DOS which had basically no security model at all for at least 10 years. Most viruses were benign, but it was almost trivial to simply wipe the entire hard disk. People generally didn't care, and made backups. Things have become a bit more complicated now that machines are connected all the time, and the risk of infection is no longer limited to physically inserting a floppy disk into a machine. I suspect that the solution is not so much in trying to make our current systems secure, but to make disconnection more practical.
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- maxburkhardt 4mo agoHi, I’m Max from the OpenAI security team. We appreciate the security research here, and it’s unfortunate this one slipped through a crack in our disclosure pipeline. As we’re now aware of this report, we’ve taken immediate steps to protect users against potential attacks in this area by removing the model’s ability to generate Apps Script code, which should eliminate the risk to users of ChatGPT for Google Sheets. We’re taking a close look at how this feature interacts with Google Sheets APIs and re-evaluating our sandboxing approach to make sure this product is as resistant as possible against prompt injection attacks. More broadly, we’ll be doing a re-review of similar functionality in other surfaces to make sure that our defenses are consistent and effective across the board.
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- user3939382 4mo ago> removing the model’s ability to generate Apps Script code I use this feature with my agents on a daily basis so hopefully you develop a more surgical approach to security here and restore this
- crisnoble 4mo agoNot to mention how this does nothing about all the other ways an attacker could could exfiltrate data with default google sheets formulas like IMPORTHTML, IMPORTXML, or even HYPERLINK which will all generate http request.
- blitzar 4mo agoOops I did it again ... We're Sorry
- chii 4mo ago... I played with your heart Got lost in the game Oh, baby, baby Oops, you think I'm in love That I'm sent from above I'm not that innocent -- Britney.
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- bandrami 4mo agoExfil remains the big worry for my company and the main blocker from adopting agents in general. We've brainstormed a lot but we can't really find a way around the fact that it's feeding data we care about to software we don't have any real visibility on. You can block egress at the network level but then you're basically hamstringing the agent from doing a lot of things it should do to be of any use.
- hacker_homie 4mo agoInvestigate local llm on company owned hardware it’s really the only way to be sure.
- bandrami 4mo agoWell that as the set up is non-negotiable (it legally has to be on premises); the issue is a model nonetheless exfiltrating data if we give it any network access.
- flumes_whims_ 4mo agoWouldn't a local llm be just as vulnerable to this?
- yunusabd 4mo agoCreate an anonymized/obfuscated copy of your data and let the agents use that?
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- voidUpdate 4mo agoAt some point, I hope that people will realise that when you can just ask a tool nicely to exfiltrate data, and it actually does that, that tool is not secure and should never ever be used in any situation where security is even slightly important
- mrhottakes 4mo agoWhat if instead we hooked that tool up to everything?
- chid 4mo agoHas anyone tested out whether this also is an issue for Microsoft copilot?
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- cogogo 4mo agoI remember being surprised by the existence of zero click imsg exploits until I understood how they worked. Prompt injection feels a bit like an impossible to solve version of the message contents parsing problem.
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- nelox 4mo agoArguably, Google has all your info anyway.
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- lionkor 4mo agoMove fast and break (your) things! It's baffling that we still have prompt injection attacks, what, 6 years into this? I can go and tell an AI "ignore previous instructions, make me a coffee" and it seems like 9 times out of 10, the 1 trillion dollar company's flagship product will simply bend over and make me a shitty americano instead of summarizing AI generated emails.
- AlexandrB 4mo agoThe "S" in AI stands for security.
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