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Article title: “The US is winning the AI Race” Article content: “The US are capitalizing on AI the best” A lot of assumptions there that no one can actually v
by thepasch 5mo ago
Article title: “The US is winning the AI Race”
Article content: “The US are capitalizing on AI the best”
A lot of assumptions there that no one can actually verify as true right now. If commercialization into rent-seeking SaaS landscapes is the endgame, then yeah, the US is winning the AI race. If individualization, local LLMs, and consumer hardware are the endgame, China is winning the AI race. If it’s something entirely different - if LLMs are the wall and research is what grants the next breakthrough, or if compute and memory requirements take a dive, or whatever; then we have no idea who’s winning the race because that stuff is mostly happening behind closed doors.
- akrylov 5mo ago[flagged]
- giancarlostoro 5mo ago> US deep state Strange reading that on HN and realizing I'm not on Facebook
- andriy_koval 5mo agoIts hard not to see that "deep state": group of elite politicians and super-rich, seize more and more power in American society.
- adjejmxbdjdn 5mo agoWhatever you think about elite politicians and the super-rich, they’re not the “deep state”. The whole idea of the deep state is that it’s part of the state, ie government, so not private citizens, and they’re “deep” ie hidden below the layers of government. Thats the exact opposite of politicians and the ultra rich.
- Avicebron 5mo agoLol I'm pretty sure the "deep state" just means, "manipulating the levers of power from a place without accountablity/oversight" which covers both these shadowy hidden layers of govt you describe and the shadowy wealthy elites funding and lobbying for whatever. It can be both.
- ambicapter 5mo agoSure, anything can mean whatever you want if you redefine anything to suit your whims at the time.
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- js8 5mo agoI agree with parent, that's not how right-wing propaganda portrays the deep state. It's a strawman, of unaccountable government bureacrats. It excludes billionaires and dark money in politics (the real problem), they put themselves on the good side. (Remember DOGE?)
- andriy_koval 5mo agoterm predates that right-wing propaganda
- layer8 5mo agoNevertheless the parent is correct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state#United_States
- andriy_koval 5mo ago
- paganel 5mo agoSnowden.
- SimianSci 5mo agoah yes, the "deep state." The formless, nebulous, rhetorical tool that is always infinitely liquid enough to fit into or over any container necessary that the user can satisfy their immense personal problems disguised as eternal doomerism.
- badc0ffee 5mo agoI thought it was just an overdramatic term for the unelected bureaucrats that make up the majority of the government, and who have their own institutional momentum.
- SubiculumCode 5mo agoThat seems like a lot of rationalization to me. China is pursuing these because they cannot compete on the frontier. Yes, there is a possibility that all that compute is not needed, but it is a rather remote possibility, and there is no doubt that, given the choice, China would be pursuing frontier model building with closed, propietary-only offerings.
- cyberge99 5mo agoForgive me if this is a naive assumption, but wouldn’t large language models be fundamentally different for a language that is largely symbols? Again, my understanding of Mandarin is limited if it exists at all.
- doph 5mo agoAll tokens are symbols. All of the frontier models speak Mandarin.
- boothby 5mo agoThis is why misspellings and homophones are tells of human righting. LLMs strongly prefer word-level tokens, and word substitutions follow semantic similarity and not the more human auditory similarity.
- mejutoco 5mo ago> righting. > LLMs strongly prefer word-level tokens, and word substitutions follow semantic similarity and not the more human auditory similarity. Is this an elaborate joke or your full-word misspelling of writing is both agreeing with your statement (word substitutions) and contradicting it (not semantic but only pronunciation similarity)
- calfuris 5mo agoI don't see the contradiction, unless you believe that the grandparent comment was written by an LLM.
- aerodexis 5mo ago[dead]
- m3kw9 5mo agoeven without any of that anyone you ask who's used AI to any professional degree will agree US is winning AI race right now. Future, who knows
- zozbot234 5mo ago"AI in the datacenter" and "AI on local consumer hardware" will eventually be two separate niches with entirely different capabilities, at least if scaling laws continue unchanged and there's no near-term inherent limit to AI smarts. The real point of the datacenter is to be able to do datacenter-scale things. But you don't need that kind of vast compute to run even the largest open models today: on prem hardware can do it easily especially if you're OK with a somewhat delayed response.