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South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf
- junaru 6mo ago[flagged]
- nubg 6mo agoCan you clarify what you mean by Asian mindset here? Trying to save face?
- dilawar 6mo agoNot OP. Indian here. I find [1] to be a perfect example. [1] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/fir-against-reporter-who-investigated-aadhaar-data-breach-is-an-attack-on-free-press-says-editors-guild/article61496139.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/fir-against-reporter-...
- leosanchez 6mo agoThis is not specific to Asia. or South Asia. Nothing about this is specific to Asia.
- cwillu 6mo agoI think a fine is a perfectly reasonable consequence.
- hsbauauvhabzb 6mo agoAsian specifically? Westerners are just as bad if you look into that whole nation state influencing foreign elections thing.
- kotaKat 6mo ago"disrupting government work by deception" sounds like such a busywork charge here trying to do some heavy lifting. An absolutely tough, rough criminal out here...
- jdw64 6mo ago[dead]
- dist-epoch 6mo agoSo you are saying authorities should ignore public posts unless they are specifically sent to them? What if another citizen forwarded the image to the police, not knowing it was AI generated? Should it have been ignored because it was not made by the sender? Should it have been ignored because it was forwarded from a public post?
- concinds 6mo agoAntisocial behavior should face consequences. I'm not Asian and I don't understand your mindset.
- catcowcostume 6mo agoHow do we flag racism on HN?
- cwillu 6mo agoYou click the flag button, the same as any other objectionable/antisocial comment.
- keybored 6mo agoIt’s not straightforward for comments. The flag button does not appear on comments when you are viewing the thread. - Click on the timestamp for the comment which will take you to the comment page - Then you can click the flag button
- _fw 6mo agoAre you trying to tell me, in this the year of our lord 2026, somebody has been (rightfully or wrongfully) arrested for literally ‘crying wolf’? There’s something hilariously poetic about a ~2,500 year old fable being relevant today, because of AI.
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- lukan 6mo agoNo, not really. There was a real wolf and the person dusturbed the operation. "South Korean police have arrested a man for sharing an AI-generated image that misled authorities who were searching for a wolf that had broken out of a zoo in Daejeon city. The 40-year-old unnamed man is accused of disrupting the search by creating and distributing a fake photo purporting to show Neukgu, the wolf, trotting down a road intersection"
- sillysaurusx 6mo agoBut there are real wolves when shepherding too. That’s why crying wolf has any power. To cry wolf is to say there’s a wolf here when it’s actually located elsewhere. The AI photo said there was a wolf at a certain intersection when it was actually located elsewhere. In fact crying wolf is doubly appropriate because it means disturbing an operation looking for a wolf.
- croes 6mo agoCrying wolf is normally starting the operation while there isn‘t a wolf. This is misdirection while there is a wolf Similar but different
- weird-eye-issue 6mo agoThat's completely pedantic and besides it's false because there literally wasn't a wolf there where he faked the photo in the first place
- prmoustache 6mo ago> Neukgu is part of a programme at O-World to restore the Korean wolf, which once roamed the Korean Peninsula but is now considered extinct in the wild. I don't understand, shouldn't they have let him go if the idea is that they still roam in the wild? Why forcing it back to a zoo?
- spiffyk 6mo agoPretty sure if you let only a handful of individuals from an almost-extinct species roam around freely in an uncontrolled environment, chances are pretty high something is going to kill them off before they reproduce, hence why they are almost-extinct. The zoo provides a controlled environment needed to restore the species. EDIT: typo/word ordering
- CrazyStat 6mo agoAlso, careful breeding to retain as much genetic diversity as possible is important to avoid collapse in small populations. Even if small local pockets survive, if each pocket is only able to inbreed with itself that will cause problems. Our local children's museum is part of a network of sites working to restore red wolf [1] populations. Every few years they get new wolves as the coordinators move young wolves around to optimize mating pairs. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_wolf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_wolf
- 05 6mo agoMaybe it’s because wolves are genetically dogs and will cross breed and the conservation program supposedly needs to increase the numbers of that particular breed and not just wolves/dogs in general?
- boodleboodle 6mo agoThey live in a pretty big conservatory (korean link but you can see the pictures) https://m.wikitree.co.kr/articles/1132213 https://m.wikitree.co.kr/articles/1132213
- adithyareddy 6mo agoIndia is trying to increase it's wild tiger population, but that doesn't mean you let tigers roam around in the middle of New Delhi.
- christoff12 6mo agoI'm a little surprised zoo animals aren't chipped with some kind of beacon locator for incidents such as these.
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- ErroneousBosh 6mo agoWhat sort of size do you think that would be?
- chrisweekly 6mo agosize of chip? they're tiny. dog owners typically have the vet "chip" their pet as a puppy. full-grown dog doesn't need a bigger chip.
- Luc 6mo agoSmall and low energy enough that tiny migratory birds can wear them for months. Externally worn of course (e.g. attached to the ear, for a wolf). You could adjust the firmware of a wildlife tag to start transmitting location every 10 minutes when the animal leaves a geo-fence.
- ErroneousBosh 6mo agoBird ones are easy because birds are high in the air, so there's nothing to block the signal. They are also not implanted in the birds, but are a relatively large "backpack" or leg tag.
- sigmoid10 6mo agoTitle should be "Man arrested for deceptive and antisocial behavior". The only reason you are seeing this right now is because it has AI in the title.
- AussieWog93 6mo agoYes, it's an interesting and novel thing about a topic many people here are interested in.
- darkwater 6mo agoYes, and at the same time we should ask the question: would the intersection between "people who think this is a funny thing to do" and "people with the technical capabilities to actually generate something that misleads police" [1] return a value > 0 before GenAI? [1] waiting for some example where fool policemen where outsmarted with simple tricks /s
- jamesnorden 6mo agoThe one time the headline isn't misleading, you want it changed?
- raincole 6mo agoExcept the actual title here is clearer. Your suggestion is so anti-AI-clickbait that it overflew and became a bad title again. If Tesla (insert any car manufacturer you hate) ran over a kid I'd like to see the title say it, instead of "Tesla fined for violating traffic laws."
- sebastiennight 6mo agoI'd say "Tesla" in your example would be the equivalent attention-grabber to "AI" in the article here, so your non-clickbait example might have been "car manufacturer fined for car accident"
- maplethorpe 6mo agoIsn't the technology that enabled the deception noteworthy? Presumably this person wouldn't have been able to do this before AI. Hypothetically, if a hacking tool was released that let non-technical people hack into sensitive databases, and then a journalist wrote the headline "local man hacks IRS", without any mention of the tool, wouldn't that be a bit irresponsible, to purposely leave that information out?
- Gigachad 6mo agoIMO you should be legally required to disclose that a video has been AI generated when you share it.
- jonnonz 6mo agoThis is how the future will look!
- Ylpertnodi 6mo agoNay, poor BBC journalism has been around for a while, now.
- kqp 6mo agoIt sounds like he didn’t actually file a false police report. They don’t even say they asked him whether it’s true. It seems the police just read a post by a random person on the internet, assumed it’s true, then arrested him when it wasn’t. The article is devastatingly light on info, though, so I can’t be sure.
- tmtvl 6mo agoYeah, we can't actually tell whether the image was posted with the poster going 'hey, @SouthKoreanPolice, wolf is here!', or whether it was xit out without any comment or context, or whether it was in response to a friend who lives in the vicinity of the location in the picture wondering where the wolf was,... I don't care enough to bother finding out, but seems like the BBC could have done some more journalism, if they were so inclined.
- sigbottle 6mo agoThat was the impression I got as well, but it seems like other people disagree.
- Joker_vD 6mo agoIt's always amusing to see what crimes people demand to have strict liability for, yes. "He posted a wrong location online, of course that'd disrupt the search for the wolf, right to jail, right away".
- dfxm12 6mo agoAuthorities also presented the AI image during a press briefing on the runaway wolf, local media reported. ... Authorities did not specify if the man had intentionally sent the photo to authorities during their search or simply shared it online. With the info presented in the article, it sounds like the cops jumped to conclusions, got publicly embarrassed and are now going after him to either save face or get revenge (depending on how credulous you are of LEO).
- thebruce87m 6mo ago> It seems the police just read a post by a random person on the internet, assumed it’s true If it was true and police saw it but didn’t act, the fallout for them could be much worse depending on the outcome.
- stingraycharles 6mo agoSouth Korea has some very specific (and unusually harsh) laws around deepfakes. I was under the impression that it was only about impersonating people, but apparently it’s broader.
- msh 6mo agoI think many places, even without specific deepfake laws, would prosecute someone who used a fake image to mislead the police.
- antiloper 6mo agoNeed this in the west as well
- pluc 6mo agoGet used to it, it's gonna keep happening since we're dumb enough to create a technology that mirrors reality with no safeguards whatsoever.
- sammy2255 6mo agoWhat is the charge?
- fredoralive 6mo agoThe article says: “Authorities are investigating him for disrupting government work by deception, an offence that carries up to five years in prison or a maximum fine of 10 million Korean won ($6,700; £5,000)” Somewhat harsher than the UK at least, where “wasting police time” would only get you six months or around a £2500 fine.
- bblb 6mo agoHow about not believing everything that's posted to the Internet. This could've easily been done with Photoshop in the pre AI era.
- rwmj 6mo ago"easily" is doing some heavy lifting there. Is Photoshopping this image together really easier than prompting an AI?
- bblb 6mo agoBackground image of some local street. Image of a wolf and object selection tool (pre AI era version). Touch up a little and add some filters to drop the quality. Sure a little bit more involved than the two second AI prompt, but 3 min job for the lulz photoshoppers.
- latexr 6mo agoNo, it’s not “a little bit more involved”, it’s significantly more involved because it also requires the skills to even know what you’re talking about, the experience of having done it before to be convincing, the inclination to spend the time on it, downloading Photoshop itself, possibly cracking it… There are a lot of steps, most of which most people haven’t done and don’t know how. With generative AI, you just open a website and type a few words. There are significantly more people able to type a few words into a prompt than people who can use an image editor fast and convincingly and would be inclined to waste their time on this kind of fake.
- filleduchaos 6mo agoThis argument has always seemed a bit silly to me. It's like responding to someone saying that it's easy to set up a hello world web server without AI with "but but but first you need to know what a web server is and how to use the command line and download a compiler/runtime and and and", as if there were some dire shortage of people who are already programmers. There are literally millions of us, the existence of one who would want to put up a website about pretty much anything you can think of is not some huge shock. We know this because we were literally there in that pre-AI world full of sites about all sorts of things! Just because you can now do the same thing with a prompt doesn't mean it was magically unlikely to find a site about, I don't know, the social lives of cane rats before.
- heddycrow 6mo agoIt is, quite frankly, completely wrong that this man was arrested—if anything, by this line of reasoning, it should have been an artist instead—since AI, as we are told, merely makes copies of what hard-working human artists have already created and shared on the internet. AI is plagiarism—full stop—nothing more, nothing less. Of course, this point could have been made without sarcasm (and AI tells for parody)—I’m aware—but that would remove a certain… texture from the argument. And where, exactly, is the fun in that?
- idbehold 6mo agoThe amount of punctuation and terrible sentence structure make this nearly incomprehensible.
- heddycrow 6mo agoYeh, I might have went overboard with the snark here. It seems even the line hinting that this was snarky was lost. If it helps, imagine the text more as a work of art than an instruction manual. Art matters.
- nslsm 6mo ago[dead]
- rm30 6mo agoThe BBC article doesn't specify the text with the image, but I clearly see a procedural gap in the police department. Accusing a man who only posted a photo, reorganizing the search based on an unverified photo, it's a big failure. Did Orwell teach anything? What will they do with the next Visitors' spaceship photo?
- culi 6mo agoPosting misinfo online like that during a hunt that has the entire nation's attention is yelling fire in a crowded theater. Speech acts aren't protected when they unhinge on other rights. Like the entire subspecies of wolf surviving. It is extinct in the wild
- Aegis_Labs 6mo ago[dead]
- bhanuhai2 6mo agoSolid
- thrownaway561 6mo agoThe dude openly admits that he posted the image "for fun", so there was clearly nefarious behavior and purposely wanted to confuse police and the investigation. I don't see why people are trying to defend this dude as him simply "posting a picture of a wolf". I guess people will defend any sort of bad behavior in this day and age.
- valicord 6mo agoHow do you immediately jump from "fun" to nefarious behavior? Are you implying that it's impossible for anyone to have fun in a non-nefarious way?
- shantnutiwari 6mo agoHe wasn't arrested because he posted an AI photo. He was arrested because he was wasting police time during a genuine problem of the police hunting for a escaped wolf. He would have been arrested even if the image wasnt AI. The title and article are very...tabloid-y
- sveme 6mo agoWhy is the Content Credentials Standard [1] not more supported? It's basically hardware-signing of images, which would make it fairly straightforward to identify AI-generated content. Needs to be supported by smartphones, of course. [1] https://contentcredentials.org/ https://contentcredentials.org/
- hbarka 6mo agoThe BBC could have done a better job here with the headline. How about, “South Korea police arrest man who pulled a prank costing extensive resources”. The device of the prank is irrelevant really it’s the consequence. Involuntary manslaughter works the same way.
- oldbear 6mo agothe news paywall. wow ok.