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Flighty Airports
- chiefgeek 8mo agoFlighty is a great app. I travel a lot and use it all the time to manage my flights. Highly recommend.
- hmartin 8mo agoLove Flightly, one of the best apps ever. Beautiful design + incredibly useful info.
- sneak 8mo agoFlighty is poorly designed. It’s one of those slick apps designed to superficially look nice without actually being well-thought-out. That’s not what design is or should mean; that’s just aesthetics. Case in point: one of the most important pieces of data for a flight, its duration, is displayed in the tiniest type size on the flight info display pane, in light grey text on a slightly darker grey background. It’s bordering on illegible. It also doesn’t surface boarding time (or countdown to same), which is the single most important piece of data a flight tracker can give you.
- exidy 8mo ago> one of the most important pieces of data for a flight, its duration Flighty is all about getting you to the airport in time for your flight, so the most important pieces of information are things like departure times, connection times, delay information, terminal and boarding gate. These are prioritised in the interface. The flight duration is set when you book the flight and it's not going to change, there is no reason to prioritise this. > It also doesn’t surface boarding time I think this would be useful but difficult data to get. Airlines sometimes will push boarding announcements to their own apps but I doubt they would agree to feed Flighty.
- ZeWaka 8mo agoBoarding is hard because it's at the discretion of the airlines, yeah. Departure time is easier because of https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT
- exidy 8mo ago> Departure time is easier because of https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT https://www.fly.faa.gov/edct/showEDCT If you're in the US!
- ZeWaka 8mo agoTrue. I think you'd have to scrape it from sites that expose it or pay for an API for a country like the UK.
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- yosito 8mo agoIn my extensive travel experience, more than half the time the boarding time listed at the gate isn't even correct.
- ymolodtsov 8mo agoBoarding times are basically not reliable at all. Any time I come 10m after the official boarding time on the ticket there's still a standing line.
- ggsp 8mo agoMy guess is that's because boarding a plane is a little bit like being an extra for a film, it's a hurry up and wait situation. If they printed the exact time boarding starts and people showed up then (and later), no flight would ever board on time. Better for the airline to print an earlier time and have people wait longer, so they can board as quickly as possible. Every minute behind schedule costs the airline money.
- rconti 8mo agoI think the design is great; my only gripe is it's awful on the iPad mini. But so are Apple apps. They think it makes sense for the side drawer (in portrait mode) to cover half the screen. Which is especially insane in apps with maps where the drawer COVERS THE "YOU ARE HERE" DOT.
- zeroonetwothree 8mo agoWhy is duration important? Surely you already knew what it was when you booked and it's not like it changes. I can't say that I've ever wanted to double check the duration of my flight.
- friendzis 8mo agoKnowing when I land, especially if there are any disturbances, is probably THE most important piece of information with regards to a flight. I have already planned my airport arrival, at least for the first leg, and the worst scenario is I have to stare at a screen/book for a bit longer. If the landing is delayed I might need to make amendments to the plans for the rest of the day.
- fourwood 8mo agoThe complaint is about the visibility of the flight duration (e.g. "this flight will take 1h 50m"), not the landing time (e.g. "this flight will land at 11:25am"). The landing time is prominently displayed in the flight info pane. Knowing your flight duration (gate-to-gate time) is not impacted whatsoever by flight delays, so I think you're conflating these two things inappropriately.
- nemothekid 8mo ago>one of the most important pieces of data for a flight, its duration, What is your use case for Flighty, and why would this information be important at all?
- sneak 8mo agoI regularly fly all over the world, and it's nice to know how long my flights are going to be? I'm not always flying direct, and seeing the lengths of the legs and the lengths of the layovers allows me to plan my day and my sleep schedule.
- signatoremo 8mo agoYou do have landing time for all of the legs? That’s more useful than duration. For your sleep, you care about landing says, at midnight, as oppose to a 10 hr flight from Paris that may or may not arrive during day time at the destination.
- sneak 7mo agoNo, duration is far more useful than landing time when my basic desire is to know how long I’m going to be on the plane. A 2h flight vs a 6h flight is a huge difference in experience. Also, landing time is given in the destination timezone, which does me no good. The part of the day that it lands is basically irrelevant to me.
- oslem 8mo agoI use their widgets more than the app itself. They display the most important information I need well imo.
- pinkmuffinere 8mo agoI think this may be a 'bug': as you zoom into the US west coast, SAN is visible before LAX. But LAX serves much more people every day, so a random person is much more likely to care about LAX. Intuitively, it seems to me that LAX should show up first. That could be intentional, but I can't think of a good reason why that choice would be made.
- phinnaeus 8mo agoSimilar in Australia, BNE shows up before SYD. Edit: actually it's even weirder. Here's the zoom levels I see, from zoomed out, to zoomed in: - BNE, MEL - BNE, SYD, MEL - BNE, CBR, MEL (??) - BNE, SYD, CBR, MEL
- chupchap 8mo agoHaha I came in to write the exact same thing. Such a weird choice
- friendzis 8mo agoThis screams vibe-coded slop. Think about it, if you were to implement zoom based detail level, you would have to try hard to introduce a bug on line 3, yet it happens to hit prod. Yet, this thread is full of people defending this pre-alpha quality thing.
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- jerlam 8mo agoI think the map is biased towards airports with the most disruptions, not the largest.
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- ryeguy_24 8mo agoI rarely bookmark things but just did. For some reason, I never get this data concisely from Google search and always look for it. Nice job.
- reader9274 8mo agoI have about 3000+ bookmarks in my KaraKeep instance
- enos_feedler 8mo agoNotice a lot of Canadian airports are yellow right now. Is this normal?
- jryio 8mo agoFlighty is a good representation of what craft - compounded over time - gives you. Everything from on design, to features, to data integrations. It's everything that vibe coding and agents don't get you. I appreciate their craft.
- jesterson 8mo agoI wish the data would be more reliable (or they have better sanity checks) though. One of my flights suddenly "departed" one hour+ before scheduled time. I almost got heart attack. Needless to say there were no objective reasons for that - airport dashboard was showing proper time and flight departed with 30min delay (displayed by Flighty as 1.5hr delay).
- ezfe 8mo agoI've never seen what you describe but I have seen other data issues. It usually depends on the airline, the same types of problems occur with the same airlines. I've asked and they say there's little they can do, the airlines systems are broadcasting this data and some airlines are better at it than others.
- jesterson 8mo agoTo be fair, it was the first majour hiccup with the app. Usually it is quite correct. It's hard to believe airline broadcasted incorrect data in my case. Even if that was the case, they could have cross checked it with airport data, which is way easier to obtain compared to airline stream. And also they could have additional checks for cases when aicraft "changes" departure time to 1 hr before scheduled at around 2 hours before scheduled time. It should be highly unusual case.
- xattt 8mo agoThe bubble fonts are a little too cheery for something as stressful as flight delays.
- alberth 8mo agoFlighty is very pretty, but I’m not giving up FlightAware anytime soon. I travel a lot, and frequently encounter flight delays. It’s mind boggling difficult to find out where my plane is when it’s delayed via Flighty. This and a few other things, FlightAware gets right. I feel like Flighty is for rare leisure traveler and FlightAware is for weekly business and/or pilot traveler. I’ve honestly had better luck with iOS built in flight tracker than Flighty itself.
- jt2190 8mo agoI was thinking this was something to help estimate the time to get through airport security. It's still very cool, though. I love the TV mode!
- Esophagus4 8mo agoMyTSA has that (or… I presume will have that again once TSA is back online). Individual airports also may have wait times on their website, but results can vary.
- jt2190 8mo agoYeah, I think that flighty already aggregates various data sources to predict flight delays, I thought maybe they were expanding to include security wait times.
- nixass 8mo agoA website requiring me to download their app for detailed report on certain airport is not worth my time.
- LeoPanthera 8mo agoFlighty is an app. Not a website. The website just tells you about the app. I think you probably know that though.
- exidy 8mo agoWhile I appreciate the aesthetics of this feature I actually fear it represents a loss of focus for Flighty. As a traveller, I don't need a global view of airport disruptions, I need relevant info for my flights. Given the prominent TV Mode button in the interface, this update seems to be about competing with Flightradar24, who sell business subscriptions for airports and related sectors for information displays.
- kylehotchkiss 8mo agoThey can do both things at once. Airports desperately need to be displaying accurate information and stop letting gate agents make random calls based on their interpreting of company policy
- logifail 8mo ago> Airports desperately need to be displaying accurate information [..] Airports and airlines may have information that they deliberately do not share with passengers. For example: a large European airport that I once did some work for ran a trial in which they announced departure boarding gates significantly earlier. The effect was that passengers went to their gates earlier. The side effect was that retail revenues in the terminal fell during the trial. Yes, this was a metric. Guess what? They decided not to proceed with announcing departure gates earlier and went back to the previous system.
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- jitl 8mo agoit sounds like the app already does what you need it to do. developers can spend a few hours on something other than #1 most pressing core feature every now and then.
- JCharante 8mo agothe app has so many bugs and missing features, I'm not a heavy user just like 60 flights a year but I love and hate flighty
- eagerpace 8mo agoMaybe this week is an edge but a lot of airports, including mine, are showing no issues, but have major issues outside of flights being on time
- aresant 8mo agoClicked this and was hopeful it was a TSA-line-tracker Anybody have a good solution that's utilizing actual traveler data vs the (non existent atm) TSA data?
- halapro 8mo agoHow do you expect that to work? Automatic reporting is impossible, you have to rely on individuals to arrive there, open the app and take a guess. Then by the time you see the report the line is long gone (or tripled) This request has no basis in reality.
- awill 8mo agoNot sure how they're getting their data, but https://tsa.fromthetraytable.com/ https://tsa.fromthetraytable.com/
- Shank 8mo ago> Due to the federal funding lapse, this airport has temporarily suspended wait time reporting. Allow significantly more time at security and check with your airline for flight status. Well, some of them directly from TSA?
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- TheDong 8mo agoIdeally the TSA at each airport would measure it and release it. They should be measuring it anyway since they should both have efficiency targets for how much of a delay they introduce, and also so that they can show data about how much or little inconvenience they cause when DOGE finally comes to cut one of the actually utterly useless government expenditures. Since the TSA doesn't seem to be releasing this data though, apple or google could spy on GPS and motion data for individuals to estimate when people entire the line and pass through security, and derive a better-than-nothing estimate. It does seem like the government refusing to do something, and apple/google stepping in and doing a government-like thing is a norm, so even though I'm joking I wouldn't even be that surprised.
- ZeWaka 8mo agoIf you fly a lot, you might also be aware of the National Airspace System Status: https://nasstatus.faa.gov/ https://nasstatus.faa.gov/ It also has links to a lot of other information useful for people in the airline industry. I find the Airport Arrival Demand Chart to be good for seeing a big picture of all the flights: https://www.fly.faa.gov/aadc/ https://www.fly.faa.gov/aadc/
- jpalawaga 8mo agoI've never seen the nasstatus page, but I have seen the OIS page, which I use frequently when experiencing delays to find out what's going on: https://www.fly.faa.gov/ois/?legacy=true https://www.fly.faa.gov/ois/?legacy=true The links on the NAS page are also really good. nice share!
- donalhunt 8mo agoThe equivalent for Europe is probably https://www.public.nm.eurocontrol.int/PUBPORTAL/gateway/spec/ https://www.public.nm.eurocontrol.int/PUBPORTAL/gateway/spec... (at least what I use when there is major disruption).
- wlonkly 8mo agoAnd here's Canada's: https://spaces.navcanada.ca/workspace/ois/ https://spaces.navcanada.ca/workspace/ois/
- reason3316 8mo agoFlighty is terrific, well worth the subscription cost. I'm delighted to see a replacement for the last part of FlightAware I still used.
- daikon899 8mo agoVery pleasant UI. Good job!
- culopatin 8mo agoHow does an app like this make money? I made an app that I simply can’t promote because it would bankrupt me. Every person I share it with thinks it’s genius and been using it but if it ever hits critical mass without me knowing it, id be those guys with the “my cloud provider reamed me overnight” posts.
- throwaway290 8mo agopro features and IAP
- nemothekid 8mo agoI use the Flighty app pretty often, and its $60/year.
- friendzis 8mo agoThe app is mac/i os-only, though.
- halapro 8mo agoHow's this related to anything?
- friendzis 8mo agoIt means it's strictly unavailable for ~80% of people out there on Windows/Linux/Android?
- simonklitj 8mo agoYes, but the question is how it makes money, not whether it could make more money by expanding into other OS’s.
- ymolodtsov 8mo agoI've seen many developers who released the same app on both iOS and Android and realized that Apple platforms still provide them with 80% of revenue for 20% of users. Not that many people on Android are willing to pay $60 for an app.
- peterchane 8mo agoI wish they would add hotel reservations. Loss of focus but I want it as much as flight tracking.
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- peterchane 8mo agoOn one level I'd love for them to add in my hotel reservations so I have my whole trip in one place. But hotels don't need real time tracking like flights do.
- throwaway290 8mo ago"Most disrupted" routes/airlines should be adjusted. Right now now it shows total numbers so the main airline or destination of any airport is always "most disrupted" which is a bit useless
- sssilver 8mo agoSuch delightful UI. One small thought: as I scroll down on a particular airport page, it would be useful for that page to always display the airport's name in a fixed position. I've opened up a few airports and scrolled down to look at the data, and then was unable to tell which page was which airport without scrolling the pages back to the top (I later realized I could just look at the URL, which is cool).
- nobrains 8mo agodid u see the TV mode link? i wish more visualization sites had that.
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- globular-toast 8mo agoIsn't this currently showing a flaw in their system? It correctly shows LaGuardia as having issues but also shows nearby airports as having issues due to severe arrival delays. But surely those delays are also due to LaGuardia? Maybe that's still useful, though? I don't know. Rarely fly.
- ZeWaka 8mo agoA lot of that was due to LGA, yes. However, that doesn't stop those airports from being affected. Getting tons of traffic rerouted is inevitably going to cause delays across the whole airspace. Very useful to know.
- friendzis 8mo agoNote: the web interface exposes minimal info, the rest is hidden in a mac-only app. Don't bother.
- cantalopes 8mo agoI mean, still better than having to go to airports' official pages
- friendzis 8mo agoA select airport view has flight data limited to some x hours, meaning you cannot even see if a flight later in the day is still scheduled to arrive on time without consulting those official pages anyway. So quite objectively no, it's not even objectively worse, it's effectively useless. Going back to a map view from an airport view resets the map, so exploration for fun is again borderline unusable.
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- RobotToaster 8mo agoWas going to say this. I'm getting real tired of sites trying to force me to download their spyware apps
- dewey 8mo agoIt has always been an iPhone app for many years, only now they have exposed some information on the site (Probably for getting incoming links), so this is more interesting if you are already an existing user of the app.
- mi_lk 8mo agoYou only really need to know when (departure/arrival time) and where (terminal/gate), no? What else necessary info that’s missing?
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- HarHarVeryFunny 8mo agoI'm not sure the use case for this. It seems the information provided is just number of on-time/delayed/cancelled flights, but how is the user meant to use that information? Check before booking flight and choose another airport it it has more on-time flights? I think most people are just going to fly out of the nearest/most convenient airport and hope for the best. I was hoping this might have information about length of security lines, a bit like Google maps indicating delays due to traffic build up, but this doesn't seem to be there. That would have been useful/actionable - give an idea how far ahead to arrive at airport to make it through security.
- bodhiJhawken 8mo agoFlighty is generally built around supporting your flight experience. I’m a touring lighting designer, and I spend a fairly large portion of my life in the air. Myself and most other touring crew I know adore Flighty. We get precious few hours to sleep, and being able to sleep in a few extra hours due to delays or spend an extra 30 minutes in the lounge eating and showing makes the difference between a good show and a bad show. Flighty has 99% of the time notified me about issues before airlines have. In a couple situations it’s been more than 6 hours ahead of airline communication and I can personally speak to the amount of shows myself and my artists have been able to make because of an early notification about a delay or cancellation giving us enough time to reroute before everyone else rebooks. Also the flighty passport has some amazing data and stats we all love to share with each other every year. The new update just looks to add another tool to the flighty tool belt to keep me appraised of how likely I am to make it to my next show. Jury is still out on how good the data is though!
- malfist 8mo agoYou created this account 14 minutes prior to this post. Forgive me if I don't trust your testimonials. Feels very astroturf
- bodhiJhawken 8mo agoHaha i knew i was going to get this reply. Long time lurker first time poster. My instagram backs up the story @bodhihawken Honestly have just been using Flighty for 4 years
- dneri 8mo agoFlighty is easily my favorite iOS app. I fly 10-20 times a year, mostly recreationally, and have come to rely on Flighty for travel updates, tracking my partners flights, and general stats through their Passport feature. Beautifully designed, and it just seems like they’ve really thought through every feature. It’s the gold standard for apps.
- oompydoompy74 8mo agoWhat’s up with all the complaining that this wonderful app isn’t available on non Apple platforms? Android isn’t worth it for monetization and one of the reasons Flighty is so good is that the developer picked a platform and created a native app. Idgi.
- JDEW 8mo agoCDG shows yellow (“minor issues”), 65% of planes arrive on time, 0% cancelled. FRA shows green (“normal operations”) 59% of planes arrive on time, 4% cancelled. Surely that’s wrong?
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- jamiek88 8mo agoThis is an LLm / bot training account leaving generic comments. We should be able to select an option to label the flag as such, then they can be reviewed by management at some point.
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- elAhmo 8mo agoFlighty is nearly useless when using low-cost carriers, such as RyanAir, WizzAir, etc, which seem to be predominantly covering destinations I use.
- codingjoe 8mo agoDoes it show ICEy conditions too?
- nathancahill 8mo agoMiseryMap: https://www.flightaware.com/miserymap/ https://www.flightaware.com/miserymap/
- ViktorRay 8mo agoPretty interesting link as well. Thanks for sharing
- degenerate 8mo agoMisery Map adds two crucial pieces of context: the delays between airports, and rain/snow on the map, which often is the reason for delays. It's nice to see it all together.
- ChrisClark 8mo agoAny way to see other airports? I never travel to the US
- HoldOnAMinute 8mo agoWhere's Alaska and Hawaii ?
- __MatrixMan__ 8mo agoWhat would be super useful is an indicator of how long it takes to get through TSA
- roysting 8mo agohttps://babylonbee.com/news/terrorists-give-up-after-three-hours-in-tsa-line/ https://babylonbee.com/news/terrorists-give-up-after-three-h...
- sklargh 8mo agoAlso recommend nasstatus.FAA.gov
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- socalgal2 8mo agoCurious what the criteria are for which airports to show at a given zoom level. At the default for me it showed SFO and SAN, both green, and did not show LAX. LAX is a bigger and busier airport than SFO and SAN. I'm not saying they were wrong not to show it. Just curious - It was apparently a common interview question - what place names should you show a map at a certain zoom level.
- bl4kers 8mo agoNo description or about page or anything? Seems pretty bare bones.
- flemhans 8mo agoHappy to see Kyiv doing so well! Not a single delayed flight.
- trakkstar 8mo agoAbsolute metrics like "Most Disrupted Airlines" are completely useless if they are not normalized by the number of flights per each airline.