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iPhone 17e
https://www.apple.com/iphone-17e/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-17e/
- xvxvx 7mo ago[flagged]
- ofcrpls 7mo agoThought that was the entire point of the e line.
- satvikpendem 7mo agoSad it doesn't have the dynamic island, was going to pick up one of these for testing for iOS app development. Everything else looks fine however, as expected.
- NetMageSCW 7mo agoI would recommend the base 17 for that.
- loeg 7mo agoOr one of the older models? 15/16 have it too.
- satvikpendem 7mo agoFor just testing I'd rather just get a used 14, 15, or 16.
- mentalgear 7mo ago[flagged]
- NetMageSCW 7mo agoSo the LCD TouchID single camera Lightning iPhone is the same as the OLED ProMotion FaceID multi-camera + LIDAR UWB USB-C + MagSafe iPhone?
- mentalgear 7mo agoto most end users, yes. they only care about having the "brand"
- 1970-01-01 7mo ago$599 still feels like they're setting whatever price they can get away with. It's been 20 years, why don't we have sub $500 new iPhones yet?
- deleted 7mo ago[deleted]
- joezydeco 7mo agoIt's a luxury brand. You don't sell cheap and risk losing the people that are happy to pay $1400 for a new iPhone.
- NetMageSCW 7mo agoIt’s not a luxury brand, it is a quality brand. There is a difference.
- joezydeco 7mo agoSo is Mercedes-Benz. But they don't sell a $20,000 commuter car.
- NetMageSCW 7mo agoNo, Mercedes Benz is definitely a luxury brand. They don’t want to sell to everyone. Apple (Steve Jobs) has explicitly stated that as one of their goals.
- lotsofpulp 7mo agoToyota is a quality brand, Mercedes is a luxury brand.
- tencentshill 7mo agoIt’s not a quality brand, it is a luxury brand. There is a difference.
- slaw 7mo ago
- thoughtpalette 7mo agoStill holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}
- Alifatisk 7mo agoMy next upgrade if my 12 mini gives up will be an 13 mini. And from there I will probably just stick to refurbed 13 minis until a good alternative comes out.
- mikestew 7mo agoWhere are you finding refurb’ed 13 Minis? Apple only goes back to 14s now on store.apple.com in the U. S.
- dmitrygr 7mo agoFB marketplace and/or eBay.
- Alifatisk 7mo agorefurbed.com and swappie.com, I don't know if they do it on all phones but some of them get their battery changed to a fresh one aswell!
- moralestapia 7mo agoHey man, this is great! Thanks. (I'm also looking to "refresh" my iPhone 13 mini)
- mini13mini13 7mo agoI highly recommend hunting down a 13 mini now (with a lot of battery left) so you can switch when you have to. I did last summer and was glad I didn´t have to organize one on short notice. And if you avoid ios26 - make sure the ios18 on the device is updated because now you no longer get updated within ios18
- zamadatix 7mo agoSeems like a decent deal for what it has and getting the full support lifecycle out of it instead of used. Does anyone know if this gets $50 off with the education discount?
- busymom0 7mo agoHere in Canada, both the education pricing and regular pricing are at "From $899". So no edu discount.
- irenetusuq 7mo ago[dead]
- joshstrange 7mo agoI'm glad they added MagSafe with this version, that was my biggest "issue" with the 16e. Thankfully you can add a ring to the back of the device to "give" it MagSafe (the magnets part at least, if not the faster charging).
- nixpulvis 7mo agoIsn't it nice to have a USB-C port and then use the back panel inductive charging for this? I don't see why I would want magsafe on my phone at this point.
- ocdtrekkie 7mo agoThe biggest thing for me is not having a fragile connector involved when charging and using it at the same time. A MagSafe puck is super easy to charge your phone while browsing.
- stephenr 7mo ago> I don't see why I would want magsafe on my phone at this point. I've been charging my 13 Pro exclusively via MagSafe for a couple of years... out of necessity. The charging port has... an issue... and I've yet to get it resolved. Honestly the only time I miss being able to use the charging port is on flights, where I'm using someone else's charging solution (i.e. a port I can plug in to). Everywhere else (bedside table, in the car, or even out and about) it's MagSafe. The only downside to this approach is that you need to be more specific about which case you buy (they don't all support MagSafe) but in terms of convenience it's night and day better.
- asimovDev 7mo agoI have one of those magsafe multi charger things that let you charge your iphone, watch and whatever you can lie on the base of the charger. I absolutely love it, since it doubles up as a bedside clock for me and it's nicer to snap things on the charger than to fiddle with the cables. I only use USB-C charging for my phone only if I need to charge it fast before leaving somewhere.
- dzhiurgis 7mo ago
- lysace 7mo agoNo mention of the amount of onboard RAM. (In this press release or in https://www.apple.com/iphone-17e/specs/ https://www.apple.com/iphone-17e/specs/.)
- anshumankmr 7mo agoAssuming it has Apple INtelligence, 8 gigs seems plausible?
- alwillis 7mo agoEvery phone since the iPhone 15 Pro has the minimum 8GB to accommodate Apple Intelligence.
- alwillis 7mo agoGoing back to the 2007, Apple doesn’t reveal the amount of RAM for the iPhone in their marketing. Occasionally there’s a feature that requires a minimum amount of RAM like Apple Intelligence but that’s the exception.
- BoorishBears 7mo agoI don't blame them, consumers won't exactly follow the nuance of tracing garbage collectors and why iOS can get away with less ram vs Android
- wps 7mo agoI think the most valuable part of this “e” lineup is the in-house developed modem. The power and security benefits are probably enormous.
- specialist 7mo ago[flagged]
- jeffbee 7mo agoIf the 17e had that chip, wouldn't it have Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 6? It has neither of those.
- varenc 7mo agoFrom the press release: > iPhone 17e also features C1X, the latest-generation cellular modem designed by Apple But the 17e iPhone seems to lack the Apple developed N1 chip that provides Wifi 7 + Bluetooth 6. So presumably they're using off the shelf components for Wifi and Bluetooth in the 17e.
- alwillis 7mo agoThe modem chip (the C series) and the N series are two different chipsets. For example, the 16e has the C1 modem but the standard Broadcom (or whoever) Wi-Fi and Bluetooth chipset.
- jesterson 7mo agoIndeed. I have 16e from it's launch and can't be happier. Battery life is incredible while no issues with connections whatsoever (I am heavy traveler so can test it on multitude of telco hardware)
- bytesandbits 7mo agodo you run two eSIMs when traveling and if so how is stability / battery life?
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- lofaszvanitt 7mo ago[flagged]
- LoganDark 7mo agoIt looks like the only changes are 256GB, OLED, MagSafe, A19 and C1X. Anything else of note?
- klardotsh 7mo ago16e has OLED, the new thing with the 17e screen is the ceramic coating on the glass.
- hamdingers 7mo agoPink!
- amelius 7mo agoStill no support for "actually owning your device." Disappointing.
- flykespice 7mo agoThanks for saving me a click
- brk 7mo agoConsidering that no major phone or carrier has embraced that model why would you expect it to suddenly appear here?
- amelius 7mo agoSomeone told me that this company "Thinks different".
- brk 7mo agoRecently?
- flykespice 7mo agoOneplus? they consistently give you the option to unlock the bootloader and install your custom ROM
- mihaaly 7mo agoNo Touch ID? Too bad.
- conk 7mo agoI really want to like the lower cost e phones, but the lack of ultrawide band support is a deal breaker. Does adding this feature really increase the cost, or is this a calculated move by Apple to ensure those who use this for air tags or keyless entry continue to buy higher end phones.
- mattmaroon 7mo agoProbably both.
- alwillis 7mo agoThe conventional wisdom is Apple believes anyone for whom ultra wide-band is an important feature wouldn’t be interested in a bargain iPhone.
- persona_reuse 7mo agoI really thought the AirTag2 was heralding a watershed moment of UW2 in every model of phone.
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- paxys 7mo agoI'm happy for the existence of the e line mainly because it forces them to bump up the specs on the base iPhone. 17 is so good now that there's very little reason to get the 17 Pro.
- alwillis 7mo agoYes, the baseline 17 has almost all of the features of previous Pro models.
- alok-g 7mo agoGenuinely asking -- How about the camera? I keep hearing that camera is much better on 17 pro than 17 base. The OP article keeps saying camera on 17e is 'stunning', but again, I am waiting to find out how it compares with 17 pro.
- wongogue 7mo agoAt the moment, the camera is almost the main point of getting the Pro. And battery for the Pro Max.
- indemnity 7mo agoI had an Air with the same camera system as the 17e, I believe. Coming from a 15 Pro Max, it was perfectly serviceable if you were happy with the limited zoom options and lack of wide angle shots. I never realized how much I used those two features, so, regrettably had to go back to the chunky 17 Pro Max. Maybe one day…
- TrainedMonkey 7mo agoApple seems to be pushing for accessibility and volume. Cheaper phones, mac minis, and entry point mac that will be introduced on Wednesday.
- mrexroad 7mo agoTbh, feels like the market is pushing for that and Apple is responding.
- kykat 7mo ago709 euro in Austria (828.89 us dollars), a 38% increase in price...
- rafaelmn 7mo agoUS prices don't include sales tax so 20% of that is VAT
- rahimnathwani 7mo agoVAT in Austria is 20%, so only ~16.7% of it is VAT. Even if you subtract the VAT, iphones seem to be ~10% cheaper in the USA than in, say, the UK. I wonder how much different factors contribute to this. I'm sure the stronger consumer protection laws are part of it.
- beAbU 7mo ago> and double the starting storage at 256GB Is massive storage on a mobile device really still a thing that's important? I'm saying this as someone with 512GB, but I just checked and I'm using 85GB at the moment, including the OS. Photos and videos are the likely reason why the phones have so much storage, but these days both apple and google offer decent cloud backup solutions which negates the need for massive on-device storage. I'd rather the storage be smaller, and the savings going toward more battery or whatever. Am I the only one?
- valleyer 7mo agoI don't think it's inherently impossible, but Apple at least seems to do a really poor job at local cache management on iOS for Photos and Messages attachments. I am constantly amazed to find my non-tech-savvy relatives deleting stuff from their phones to free up local storage.
- brendoelfrendo 7mo agoCloud backups are great for keeping your photos long-term, but if you want those photos on your phone so you can show them to people or share them, you need to download them anyway. I need storage because Honkai: Star Rail is 32gb and I like being able to have more than one game on my phone.
- beAbU 7mo agoI know good network connectivity is not a privilege that everyone has, but on google photos I can scroll back all the way to 2007 when my digital photo collection started (I uploaded everything I had manually), and it's as if all those photos are local on my device.
- jb1991 7mo agoiCloud seems to work differently. Nearly all of the photos and videos I have are stored in iCloud because my phone is only a 64 GB device. But I can scroll back many years and pull up any photo video and play or view just fine right away. I can swipe right through long sequences of photos from five years ago on a device that doesn’t have them downloaded. I’m not sure exactly how that works.
- giwook 7mo agoI'd love to have a smaller/cheaper phone but I continue to hold onto my Pro from a couple years ago is for the high end camera, particularly the telephoto lens. No, I don't need it all the time. But when you do need it, it's invaluable.
- gs17 7mo agoI have the same issue with my Pixel. It's nice to be able to use a real zoom when I need it, but that means I can't get the one that's otherwise what I really need.
- rootusrootus 7mo agoWhat I would like is a really good single camera. If that's even possible. One thing I find sort of irritating about the multi-camera setup on my iPhone is that using it as a magnifier is often frustrating. Get too close to something and it decides to switch cameras, which then means now you're actually looking at something else entirely. Maybe I'm missing a setting somewhere, I can't be the only person to notice how awkwardly the functionality is implemented.
- redundantly 7mo agoIf they added a lens lock option (like the AE lock) it would fix this problem nicely.
- esperent 7mo agoThe latest Xiaomi has this, they call it continuous optical zoom. It's the first time I've seen it on a phone camera.
- csomar 7mo agoNo, it sucks (16 Pro). I've had lots of issues reading QR codes.
- giwook 7mo agoIt's hard to get that in a single camera because of the size. If you consider the size of professional grade camera lenses there's a reason why they produce much better images. But conversely it's pretty impressive what phone manufacturers have been able to accomplish with such a small amount of space. For 90% of use cases camera phones are sufficient.
- aetherspawn 7mo agoWaiting for the first pro line phone with both the Apple modem and Apple wifi/BT stack in it. Battery life is always a struggle when the phone gets older.
- prmoustache 7mo agoThe example photos are so bad it is laughable.
- shhsshs 7mo agoI'm trying to understand what you mean by this. Are you saying they're "bad" in terms of resolution, or artistic value, or something else? They seem good enough (far from "bad") by any definition I can think of.
- prmoustache 7mo agoResolution != quality A picture with a boring gaussian blur to fake a bokeh effect is low quality regardless if the end result is in high resolution.
- kittikitti 7mo agoIronic that there are so many iPhones but such little diversity in the design. It went from "Think Different" to "Conformity & Comfort".
- klabb3 7mo agoWhat do you mean? With every launch they change the orientation of the camera array so you can tell who has the new model, and thus, is a better person.
- jesterson 7mo agoYou need to be well versed in the attribution for camera disposition. I am too old for that so getting understanding who is the better person is challenging :)
- varispeed 7mo agoWhy they don't mention that the phone is essentially a brick when new iOS will require handing over your ID?
- brikym 7mo agoMy mother still has an old iPhone because it fits her hand. They don't seem to get this anymore.
- cactusplant7374 7mo agoSmaller phones aren't great for older people because of the increased font size that they use. They can barely fit a sentence onto the screen.
- Aurornis 7mo agoThey releasee the iPhone 13 mini for all of the customers who wanted smaller phones It sold very poorly. Despite all of the YouTubers and social media posts calling for smaller iPhones, the real demand for these is very small. The older demographics generally prefer larger phones because they have larger screens, which are better for aging eyes.
- rgovostes 7mo agoI can't believe Apple expected the 13 mini to be a hot seller; most people holding out for a small phone probably would have already bought the 12 mini just a year prior. The 13 mini was an incremental update -- basically just alleged camera improvements that I could not discern myself in a few minutes of testing.
- CagedJean 7mo ago[dead]
- user3939382 7mo agoI actually don’t want a smartphone anymore. The first iPhone was fun, the new one is creepy. I survived for many years without it, I think I can do it.
- h05sz487b 7mo agoWhat, if any, mobile phone are you using instead? Even if I would not miss all the features I do not find these feature phone companies more trustworthy. Some are in bed with AdTech companies. Less features does not necessarily mean less tracking.
- user3939382 7mo agoIt’s a nightmare regardless. There’s no trustworthy hardware either, or at least very little. Maybe I’ll build a SIP client from an FPGA.
- kmac_ 7mo agoA 60Hz display in 2026 is quite surprising.
- geoffeg 7mo agoI doubt the target market for the 17e would notice... or care.
- batiudrami 7mo agoIt definitely is less important / visible to some people. I have a 175Hz screen at home and a 120Hz iPhone, but I use a 60Hz iPad and displays at work and if I am not focusing on it I simply do not notice the difference.
- mangogogo 7mo agoi absolutely do notice. i just don't care, or need it, personally
- bigDinosaur 7mo agoCan confirm - I go for the cheapest and smallest iPhones possible (e.g. 13 mini) and could not care less about >60Hz on my phone, although I care about it quite a lot for laptop or desktop displays. 17e will likely be my next upgrade (if I can bear to part with my 13 mini).
- WatchDog 7mo agoI guess they need something to differentiate it from the 17. Of the differences, it's the one that would matter most to me.
- higgins 7mo agothe only thing i search for on these announcements is phone width. bring back the mini
- crossroadsguy 7mo agoI learnt it the sad way that no one wants it except very very few people.
- patall 7mo agoI do not think that is really the case. What actually happens is that smaller phones are often worse, i.e less battery life, worse processor, worse camera. Because there is less space in the device (and manufacturers think that people will buy a slightly thicker phone) and the screen doesn't use that much energy, the battery has to be smaller impacting performance. And users do not accept that. So unless someone discovers that you can make a full feature, big battery phone by increasing depth and weight of the small device, it wont happen / be popular. But once one company makes one, other will probably follow. Which again reduces revenue per producer...
- the_overseer 7mo agoNo. It doesn't sell. You so called mini buyers never showed up except in forums making a lot of pointless noise. If you understand anything about how businesses work you would understand how useless your comment is.
- pixelatedindex 7mo agoI’m sure they showed up, but if you compare to the entire market size it’s a small size like maybe 10%. They should have calibrated their expectations, but they didn’t. Also the battery life on them aren’t as good as the regular.
- tclancy 7mo agoHmmph, well fine then. Use that foldable phone technology everyone else apparently wants to give me a "normal" phone I can fold in half. Now everyone's happy!
- _-_-__-_-_- 7mo agogive me a monochrome e paper android device, metal case, small like the 12 mini, week long battery life. k thanks bye
- crossroadsguy 7mo agoBecause they can't sell that to you every year.
- internet2000 7mo agoYou should message the Pebble watches guy.
- 27thPW 7mo agoI'm waiting for the daylight tablet screen to make its way into a phone
- mdtrooper 7mo agoSome years ago a chinese company released a phone with 2 screens, one typical mobile screen and other side a e-paper screen. But I don't remember what happened, but unfortunately this idea didn't succeed.
- dwedge 7mo agoThe Mudita Kompakt, I've been rocking this for 6 months now: https://store.mudita.com/store/mudita-kompakt-global https://store.mudita.com/store/mudita-kompakt-global It's AOSP, not Googled so things like Uber don't work. There's also no app store, but you can sideload F-Droid or Aurora using Mudita software. Case is plastic not rubber though.
- jcmontx 7mo agoI have an iPhone 13, would this phone be a worthy update?
- crossroadsguy 7mo agoIf your phone is a problem for you, or is insufficient then any phone in your budget that fixes your problems is a worthy upgrade. Otherwise no phone is.
- johanyc 7mo ago4gb ram vs 8gb ram A15 vs A19 Of course it's a considerable upgrade
- Aloha 7mo agoI wonder if CarPlay will work on that, its still broadly broken on my 17.
- gmac 7mo agoMust vary by car — not had any problems with my iPhone 17 + Renault.
- prvc 7mo ago[flagged]
- dheera 7mo ago256GB? My laptop has 8TB. Why is Apple so stingy?
- bigyabai 7mo agoBecause service profits makes up an outsized portion of Apple's yearly revenue, including subscriptions like iCloud+ storage plans.
- Markoff 7mo agoiCloud subscription
- zamadatix 7mo agoI'm using less than 100 GB of total storage on my phone. I'm not sure how your laptop is supposed to come into that but 256 GB is already plenty for the smallest possible option to select, doubly so since this is the budget variant. The bogus part with the storage here is instead on needing to pay $200 more just to get to 512 GB.
- dheera 7mo agoMy 256GB phone is already almost full because of all this app bloat. 6 different parking apps, 17 messaging apps because nobody uses the same thing, 13 different financial apps, EV charging apps, ... I have one messaging app eating 40GB On the other hand, a terabyte is cheap, they should just put a terabyte in the phone, it's what we apparently need in 2026
- Daz912 7mo ago[flagged]
- CharlesLau 7mo agoThe reasons for using a small-screen iPhone will become increasingly compelling with the rise of AI voice assistants.
- whizzter 7mo agoAh dang my typical luck, just bought a 16e on friday since my old 2020 SE broke down (same price as I would've paid for a 17e also since I got the 256gb version).
- pinnochio 7mo agoNot sure where you are, but you should be well within the return period?
- whizzter 7mo agoBought from a retailer that has "no returns on phones with broken seals", and honestly with all accounts and everything else setup on the device now, the time taken to go exchange it and setup everything again, I'm gonna lose money by swapping it compared to possibly buying the next phone one year earlier instead.
- ho_schi 7mo agoNo compact smartphone. Apples MBAs produce just more slight variants of the same phone. The Google Pixel 10a is superior, same chassis with flat camera. The Pixel 10 doesn’t suffer a camera bump. At least a step in the right direction.
- microtonal 7mo agoIt's a bit of a shame that the 10a introduction price was pretty much the same as the Pixel 10 by that time. The Pixel 10 has a much better SoC and PixelSnap. 10a will be worth it when the price drops down to 350 Euro.
- sevenseacat 7mo agoThey finally got a phone back under $1000 AUD! Now discount the iPhone 16 so I can have one in a nice colour :D
- alabhyajindal 7mo agoI wonder if the Small Android Phone project has moved forward since the last time it was posted here: https://smallandroidphone.com https://smallandroidphone.com
- lente 7mo agoI just signed up on their site and got a mail with the following info: "To catch you up: We’ve been hard at work over the summer building out a team and searching the globe for a manufacturer to build our dream phone. It’s been a slow process, but we’re nearing completion and expect to be able to kick off this project very soon. Once we have a manufacturer locked in, we will be reaching out with a full update on the project and our plan to move forward."
- brookst 7mo agoGuess they’re southern hemisphere?
- gingersnap 7mo agoI was hoping for this too, but when I saw that Eric Migicovsky went back to building pebble I lost my hope for it
- coldpie 7mo agoSo... there is a 4" Android phone out there. It's widely available, and from a major manufacturer. It's very usable, and it runs mostly stock Android. I have it, and I like it very much. Brace yourself for the reveal because you're not going to like it. It's a foldable. It's the Motorola Razr+ or Razr Ultra (I have the 2025 Ultra). The outer screen is 4" and you can use it for almost everything you want to do. I use the outer screen probably 80+% of the time, since I prefer small phones. Every once in a while you run into an app or website that just wasn't built to function on a 4" display, but for almost everything I've tried it works great. You can then also un-fold it into a full-size 7" phablet when you need to do high-detail stuff like Maps. There are downsides: it's expensive; it's a foldable, so reliability is a concern; and Motorola's OS support promise is not great at only like 3-4 years. But if you're willing to make those compromises, you can get a genuinely very good, small phone, right now today. Once you get over the shock of having a foldable suggested to you (I was initially skeptical, too), give it a look. It's really genuinely a nice phone for small-phone-likers.
- Noaidi 7mo agoAre they using binnned A19 chips like they use the binned A18 chips in the iPhone 16e that has a GPU that can’t handle liquid glass? Asking for a friend.
- everdrive 7mo agoReally hate huge phones. I have an Xr. It's way too big, and you cannot actually fully lift your left while you have it in your front pocket. It restricts your movement. Even though I'm holding onto this phone as long as possible, it's not because I like it. I hate the phone. But I'm going to hate the next phone too, and they cost so much, (I got the Xr for free) and society effectively requires me to own one. So I'm just trying to avoid a phone purchase for as long as possible since the next one will be terrible as well.
- ako 7mo agoLooking at the specs of this, why would anybody need a more expensive iphone. This has everything a normal phone needs.
- Noaidi 7mo agoThat’s what I thought when I bought the 16 E, but liquid glass ruined it because the GPU sucks. So buyer beware.
- catoc 7mo agoJust disable Liquid Glass (transparency, motion). Better UX and better UI
- thih9 7mo agoDoes this work, i.e. does this reduce the load on the processor and battery? Did someone measure it?
- Noaidi 7mo agoI tried it, the effect is unnoticeable and it ruins the UI experience. But to say that to use a one year old phone I need to disable screen effects on a new OS should be grounds for a lawsuit.
- Noaidi 7mo agoWell, that's it. I cannot stand HN anymore. Literally my experience is being downvted and no one commenting on why what I said was negative. And just warning people to wait to by the phone is now frowned on? Nothing but a bunch of capitalist suck up fanbois here I guess. Same thing happened on a quantum science post. If you cannot express why you disagree with me either you are a schill or your thoughts are not solid enough.
- Halan 7mo agoWhy would anyone buy this over a good as new refurb 16 pro with 100% battery and likely few months of Apple care left? Here they can be found for $650 or less
- greenpresident 7mo agoThey will be bought in bulk by businesses. The same for some of the laptops what you might find in a strange place within the lineup.
- ubermonkey 7mo agoInteresting but ultimately still not my upgrade target. I'm on a 14 Pro. It's fine -- plus, it's been replaced twice under AppleCare. Once was a Lightning jack failure, but the second was when it fell off my motorcycle mount and got run over back in October. (Amazingly, the phone part worked fine, but the mishap ruined the camera lenses.) The upshot is that I have a phone that's only a few months old, and see almost no compelling reason to upgrade to anything else. It _would_ be nice to have USB-C, but that's not worth hundreds of dollars to me. And it also appears there are aspects of the 17e that aren't as nice as my 14 Pro, so ...
- g8oz 7mo agoThere are a lot of foldable options in the Android world now. I wonder when Apple will create an offering of their own. An unfolded screen could be great for reading source code, not that I've tried.
- giwook 7mo agoRumor has it that Apple is releasing it this year.
- butz 7mo agoWhy is it so hard to make a phone without camera bump? Not each table has a strategically placed depression so the phone would lie neatly on the table and do not wobble.
- ivandenysov 7mo agoGoogle recently released a smartphone without a camera bump: Pixel 10a.
- volongoto 7mo agoI believe at least some versions of Google Pixel don't have a camera bump (if you don't mind using a Google phone).
- fmorel 7mo agoI don't mind the bump on most Pixels because it goes all the way across the phone. So it's still stable on surfaces.