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I don't see any iOS advantage with the apps anymore. That was maybe true in the very beginning, during the gold rush time of the app store. But not since then.
by onli 9mo ago
I don't see any iOS advantage with the apps anymore. That was maybe true in the very beginning, during the gold rush time of the app store. But not since then. In which category are there better iOS apps? Browsers? No, strictly worse. Youtube app? No, worse. Texting? Worse or equal (Whatsapp). Podcast client? I assume worse, since there is no Antenna Pod. Social media apps? The iOS variants of those apps are afaik in no way better. What else is there, where is the advantage?
Also, while the Play store is an equally ad-riddled and unsearchable hellhole, at least Android does have with F-Droid a high quality alternative. iOS has nothing.
But sure, removing the F-Droid advantage can only hurt Android, the direction of your comment still stands.
- karlgkk 9mo agoHonestly, you’re so wrong about the app situation that it’s almost staggering. iOS apps tend to be more stable, better polished, have better integration with system features (like the Dynamic Island), and even often have more features. This isn’t even an unfounded opinion, it’s a material problem for Google and led them to vastly investing in automated testing and quality efforts App addressable user base is another problem for Google, one that they have mentioned in developer conferences. It’s a big part of why they’ve been trying to ship a tablet and unify android and Chromebook. If Google isn’t careful they could find themselves in a downward spiral situation, stuck between apple on one side, and android forks on the other. And the last answer is, as always, money - browser is deemphasized on iOS, and so it’s weaker feature set matters less - iOS is generally easier to develop for because of less device differentiation - on average iOS has significantly wealthier users who tend to be higher return or paying customers (seriously, look it up). This in turn leads companies to invest more heavily in iOS. - easier integration due to a narrow system services ecosystem (no Google vs Samsung slapfights) - unified platform advantage (apps written for iOS easily port to the watch and tablet, unlocking larger markets, and justifying greater spend in developing apps) - apples review process is significantly stricter (for better or for worse) Yes, Apple doesn’t have something like fdroid, and that’s really disappointing and honestly a legitimate dealbreaker for a lot of people
- wiseowise 9mo ago> browser is deemphasized on iOS, and so it’s weaker feature set matters less That's precisely the OP's point. They gimped their browser so there's bigger incentive to use their proprietary system frameworks. > iOS is generally easier to develop for because of less device differentiation That's nonsense. What year are you from? I've heard this like 10 years ago when there only 1 or 2 current iPhone models in circulation. > on average iOS has significantly wealthier users who tend to be higher return or paying customers (seriously, look it up). This in turn leads companies to invest more heavily in iOS. If you offer subscription service, like Netflix/HBO/Nest or whatever, your main goal is volume, not how wealthy your demographic is. > easier integration due to a narrow system services ecosystem (no Google vs Samsung slapfights) Easier integration with what? > unified platform advantage (apps written for iOS easily port to the watch and tablet, unlocking larger markets, and justifying greater spend in developing apps) That's like Android's moat from the start, not bolted on during some 10+ major versions like on iOS. And it works much better, Android apps are truly the same apps. Not gimped, cut off things like Instagram on iOS (is it even fixed now?). > apples review process is significantly stricter (for better or for worse) Both are shit these days due to volume of shovelware produced.
- jakub_g 9mo agoRe: iOS apps being easier to develop: device sizes are the minuscule of the problem. The real problem is that Android vendors mess up with the OS in weird ways by adding custom ultra battery savers, removing APIs etc. which is much less predictable than dealing with a few Apple devices, that are more homogenous. Then many vendors ship their own apps which are buggy and you need to know that vendor's Z Calendar app has a weird bug to account for.
- mh- 9mo agoIt's very obvious in this thread who has developed both an iOS and Android app - with a real, large userbase - and who hasn't.
- karlgkk 9mo ago
- zjaffee 9mo agoThe iOS version of most social media apps is better. IOS simply has better API integration to it's hardware, where with android, many OEMs (hell this was even the case to a certain extent with older pixel phones), do a number of things that make the hardware not as easily accessible as quickly from the OS API for said feature. This is especially relevant for the camera, but also various other sensors and hardware modules that exist inside these phones. That said, in recent years there are just a number of other areas that android is much better at such as deeper AI integration, which goes back to even prior to the current LLM craze.
- direwolf20 9mo agoWhat are those things?
- bloqs 9mo agosorry this is not correct. (do you consistently use both?) iOS apps are consistently better, because people prefer using swift
- Devorlon 9mo agoAs an Android power user (I’ve ran Lineage, Graphene, rooted with Magisk and passed safetynet) that’s moved to IOS this last month. My subjective opinion: app quality is the same.
- microtonal 9mo agoI have both an iPhone and an Android phone and I agree. The largest chunk of apps are the same anyway, using something like React Native or Ionic.
- lkjdsklf 9mo agoIt very much depends. These days most apps are developed so that they’re equally trash on both. The apps that are more specialized to reach OS tend to prioritize iOS because if you look at app revenue, iOS users wildly outspend Android users. At least this was true when i was doing mobile shit a couple years ago That doesn’t mean the android app sucks, but it’s usually given lower priority. New features and updates will usually hit iOS version sooner and things like that
- swiftcoder 9mo ago> In which category are there better iOS apps? Almost all of the prosumer apps on iOS offer a consistently better experience. This is maybe less relevant on phones than on tablets, but music production, video editing, digital painting and drafting, etc...
- hulitu 9mo ago> Almost all of the prosumer apps on iOS offer a consistently better experience So for people who don't want to use computers. I cannot work with a tablet or phone. I need a computer.
- swiftcoder 9mo agoI mean, as someone who is mainly a programmer, same. But high-end cameras, big touchscreens, and an excellent pencil input is sort of the optimal device for a whole bunch of creative tasks
- SoftTalker 9mo agoAre the cameras "high-end"? Good for a phone, certainly. But compared to a real camera with a much bigger lens and sensor?
- AlotOfReading 9mo agoThey're good enough to have displaced the vast majority of camera purchases, and be used by professionals (e.g. influencers, photojournalists, pro photographers). There are benefits to larger sensors, but the best camera is the one you have in-hand.
- Forgeties79 9mo agoThey can certainly hang with some of the big dogs. Apple’s camera(s) and color science is fantastic. The black magic app in particular shows off their capability.
- JoshTriplett 9mo ago
- theshackleford 9mo ago> I assume worse You know what they say about assuming.
- sghiassy 9mo agoThe YouTube app on iOS is superior to the Android app for one
- anymouse123456 9mo agoThis used to be true, but really is not anymore.
- onli 9mo agoAlso, I wasn't aiming at the official Youtube app, but at PipePipe etc. The great alternative Youtube clients Android has.
- pbmonster 9mo agoA YouTube client that can't AdBlock and SponsorBlock automatically is strictly worse.
- Derbasti 9mo agoCamera apps. Everything else I agree with, but the Android camera APIs do not allow developers to build good device independent camera apps the way they are available on iOS.
- synergy20 9mo agofirst time hear this, any more specifics? i used android to develop video conference software and don't recall camera limits
- lgeek 9mo agoI'm only familiar with this as a user and not a developer, but I've had multiple Android phone where not all camera features available in the Camera app were available to other apps via the APIs: * not all cameras being available * stabilisation not working * 60 FPS unavailable
- ErikBjare 9mo agoTo be fair to Android, iOS isn't offering "good device independent camera apps" either, you only have ~one choice of device with iOS.
- elzbardico 9mo agoProbably the use of "device independent" had other meaning than the usual.
- kernal 9mo agoIt’s not Android. The Camera 2 API is more than capable of building device independent apps. It’s the developer not using the API for whatever reason.
- KolmogorovComp 9mo ago> Social media apps? The iOS variants of those apps are afaik in no way better. What else is there, where is the advantage? This is incorrect. The IOS versions of social media apps extract way less data from the device than on android, and is thus more privacy friendly. Sure the best way would be for people not to use them, but if you "have" to, then it's better to use those on IOS.
- fruitworks 9mo agoIn what manner do they extract less data
- fc417fc802 9mo agoUnless you're running Graphene or a similar security minded distro the sandboxing isn't very good. Okay let's be honest it's fairly abysmal at preventing fingerprinting. It could almost be accused of not even bothering to try. But one example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43518866 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43518866
- water-data-dude 9mo agoThe mobile operating system developed by the enormous ad tech company doesn't try to prevent fingerprinting?! :O
- gruez 9mo ago>Unless you're running Graphene or a similar security minded distro the sandboxing isn't very good Grapheneos doesn't prevent the installed apps fingerprinting you linked either.
- fc417fc802 9mo agoColor me surprised. But if you run the app using the sandboxing feature that it provides surely it will only be able to see other apps installed within that same sandbox?
- jorvi 9mo agoFor one, I can actually use gesture controls without constantly triggering backswipes. Even something as droll and first party as Google Photos suffers this problem, where, say, cropping a photo and pulling too close from the screen edge will result in a backswipe detection instead. Another example is Sonos, where the iOS app contains TruePlay to tune your speakers. They can do this because there is relatively few iPhone models (microphones). But this is a general, noticeable trend, where developers will add more / better / polished features to the iOS app.
- manuelabeledo 9mo agoThe iOS YouTube app is not worse than the one in Android. Texting in iOS is arguably better or, at the very least, there is one more app to choose (Messages). And I’m curious to know what makes Antenna Pod so much better than the thousands of other podcast apps out there. Social media apps have historically been worse in Android, because of lax app and privacy controls. > What else is there, where is the advantage? Personally, I’d rather not have Google buried deep inside all aspects of my phone.
- embedding-shape 9mo ago> Texting in iOS is arguably better or, at the very least Since some updates ago, my keyboard is still broken if I type too fast, and autocorrect been essentially broken for the same amount of time. Must be happening for ~years now, still waiting for a new update to finally fix it. At least on Android you can change the keyboard to something else if you'd like, instead of being stuck with what your OS developer forces on you. Wish I had that option now.
- manuelabeledo 9mo agoHasn’t happened to me, but I guess that you could always install a third party keyboard. Both Microsoft and Google have offerings in the App Store.
- BlaDeKke 9mo agoThe keyboard can be changed in iOS.
- _vqpz 9mo agoI have been using SwiftKey keyboard on iOS exclusively since 2018 and have had very few issues compared to Android where it regularly crashed
- DiskoHexyl 9mo agoA lot of the apps, not just the banking apps, but food delivery etc, restrict using alternative keyboards, leaving you with a default one, which is especially jarring for a multi-lingual countries where you typically need keyboards for English + language 2 and 3. I had to give ap on a swiftkey iOS for that reason
- avcloudy 9mo agoThis is a really ideology driven push. I don't think you really think the iOS browsers are worse, there's just less choice, because they all fundamentally use WebKit. Having to use Chromium is a worse experience, and not being able to use Gecko under Firefox is not a clear upgrade - particularly as WebKit is so tightly integrated with the hardware, leading to less battery use. If you really don't like WebKit for whatever reason, I get it. But that's not worse. Whenever there is an app with full feature parity (WhatsApp) you assume at best it can be equal, based on nothing. You have specific apps that work for you, and that's great, but my practical experience is much different: whenever I haven't had a choice in an app (think banking apps, carrier apps, local library apps, the Covid apps) the experience has been much better on Apple. Whenever there is a choice in apps, they're often cross-written in something that allows easy porting, and very similar, or the native Apple solution is much smoother. It's rare that an app just feels better on Android, and usually limited to cases where a specific app is only available on Android or, you know, Google.
- fruitworks 9mo agono ublock How can whatsapp be better? Android at least has features like scoped storage. Where is the ios equivalent of newpipe? Where is the iOS equivalent of pojavlauncher? where is the iOS equivalent of libretorrent or syncthing? Open source is essentially banned on iOS. What is the advantage of iOS? "Feels smoother"? Totally subjective.
- avcloudy 9mo agoSafari just got uBlock back! iOS isn't particularly open source friendly, but mostly people don't do it because of personal incentives, not because it can't be done. It's subjective, and I get that, but what you miss is that features are subjective too. Missing parity apps are only relevant when you care about that feature; at no point in my life have I ever thought my life would be better or more convenient if I could only torrent on my phone. But having an app that is responsive and works well has made my life better. Standing outside a bar in the rain trying to get a stupid Covid app to work, not work well, just work, on Android has made my life worse. (Ironically, I've kind of noticed this is part of the Unix ethos writ small: do one thing and do it well. It's not exact, and iOS for sure has tons of crud everything apps. And they sure don't work together! I just think it's amusing.)
- jasode 9mo ago>I don't see any iOS advantage with the apps anymore. That was maybe true in the very beginning, during the gold rush time of the app store. But not since then. In which category are there better iOS apps? I researched iOS vs Android last year so some of my info may be out of date but this is what I collected. Apple iOS exclusives (or earlier app versions because devs prioritized iOS): ChatGPT iOS app -2 months before Android Sora -2 months before 2025-11 Android Bluesky iOS app -2 months before Android (February 2023 iOS invitation-only beta; April 2023, it was released for Android) Blackmagic Design camera 2023-09-15 -9 months before Android 2024-06-24 Halide camera app https://old.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/17klq40/what_are_some_good_examples_of_iphoneexclusive/k7efznt/ Zoom F6 https://zoomcorp.com/en/us/software-product-page/software-sub-cat/F6-control-app/ https://apps.apple.com/us/app/f6-control/id1464118916 Godox Light https://www.diyphotography.net/godox-finally-launches-android-app-for-the-a1-but-only-for-some-phones/ ForeFlight Mobile https://support.foreflight.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004919307-Does-ForeFlight-Mobile-work-on-Android-devices https://old.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/1883eya/the_authoritative_answer_to_why_isnt_foreflight/ Adobe Fresco Procreate FlexRadio SmartSDR SSDR 2023-10-27T13:15:09+00:00 https://community.flexradio.com/discussion/8029186/smartsdr-for-android-device Google Android app exclusives TouchDRO for milling Kodi media player There really aren't many popular/prominent Android-only apps that's intended for direct consumer download from the Google Play Store. Instead, Android dominates in OEM use as "turnkey" and "embedded" base os as the GUI for their customized hardware devices: Amazon Fire Stick, car infotainment, music workstations, sewing machine GUI, geology soil tester, etc If it's a typical mainstream user (browser + Youtube/Tiktok + WhatsApp etc), they won't see any iOS ecosystem advantages over Android.
- palata 9mo agoIt seems like a pretty arbitrary list to me... Also Android has a bigger market share in the world than iOS, by a lot.
- jasode 9mo ago>Also Android has a bigger market share in the world than iOS, by a lot. The tone of that seems like you thought I was taking the discussion into fanboy evangelism and therefore Android needed to be defended. That wasn't the intent and I already tried to downplay my comment by stating the iOS ecosystem specifics do not matter to 99% of mainstream users. Yes, everybody on HN already knows Android has a much bigger market share. The point was simply to inform the gp asking the question about iOS that there are apps and niches he may not be aware of. Nobody's trying to convince any reader of switching to iOS or that "iOS is superior" ... or vice versa!
- FrequentLurker 9mo agoiOS has less device models to target for. This makes it easier to support and deliver a more consistent experience, especially for gaming. I have also heard a few other points back in the day, but I am not sure how true they are now. One is that some social media apps might offer better quality in app camera experience. Another is that iOS userbase is more willing to spend money so devs are more likely to target iOS.
- clickety_clack 9mo agoI switched from Android to iPhone last year, and this just isn’t true. There’s so many tiny issues with android apps that just don’t exist on iPhone, because the android apps have to work on all these different devices. You don’t even have to look for the kinds of apps you’re talking about because things like Safari and Apple Podcasts work really well. I know people have a lot of complaints, but things on the iPhone really do “just work”.
- mexicocitinluez 9mo ago> because things like Safari ...work really well Are we living in the same universe? We manage a fleet of tablets (both Apple and Android) for a healthcare company whose EMR is web-based. And because of that Sarafi has made our lives miserable. So much so that we're migrating to Chromebooks. I've been developing for the web for 15 years. The first half was spent battling Internet Explorer. Now it's Safari.
- clickety_clack 9mo agoI’m a developer too, but the developer experience doesn’t matter to users. As a user of the app, it’s fast enough, cleanly designed, seems to be reasonably private and secure, and I haven’t hit any website with it where I’ve had to download chrome to view it or something.
- mexicocitinluez 9mo agoYou're a developer but you can't connect the dots between features being hard to build and the inconsistencies between other browsers vs Safari to how that might effect the user?
- clickety_clack 9mo agoI can be a user separate from being a developer. The user experience of Safari is basically perfect for a browser. The development experience is completely irrelevant from that perspective.
- SomeHacker44 9mo agoForeflight is iOS only. There is nothing even a third as good on Android. I literally have a one app iPad just for this. Sigh.
- odo1242 9mo agoiOS apps consistently get updates a few weeks to months earlier than the Android version. Including some of Google’s own apps, sometimes. To give examples: - https://www.phonearena.com/news/google-photos-update-to-reach-ios-users-first-before-android_id171900 https://www.phonearena.com/news/google-photos-update-to-reac... - https://www.t3.com/tech/iphones/google-maps-gets-an-iphone-update-thatll-become-an-everyday-essential-for-many https://www.t3.com/tech/iphones/google-maps-gets-an-iphone-u... Both of the above are updates to Google apps that released on iOS but are planned on Android. Haven't seen any examples of the reverse.
- odo1242 9mo agoTo add more examples, a game I play on my phone got an update that adds controller support on iOS, with controller support on Android expected 6 months down the line.
- gf000 9mo agoThere are plenty examples to the contrary. It's almost like one of the platforms has the supermajority of phones in most countries, so there are plenty of apps only targeting a single one.
- jdiff 9mo agoDo you have any examples handy? It'd strengthen your argument a great deal, even if it wasn't the specific example of controller support.
- Aardwolf 9mo agoDo those updates matter? Not for me at least usually (exception might be something like an rpg game expanding the world), apps nagging to get updated is annoying in fact.
- dismalaf 9mo agoMost online RPGs (Genshin for example) check for world updates everytime you log in, it's not tied to app updates.
- vachina 9mo agoiOS apps are truly sandboxed, they cannot carry out stunts like this: https://localmess.github.io/ https://localmess.github.io/
- gruez 9mo agoFor this particular exploit, it's not really because "iOS apps are truly sandboxed", it's because iOS is more restrictive with background activity, so you you can't keep a server running in the background. If your app is in the foreground it can create a listen socket just like in android.
- layer8 9mo agoIf iOS apps were “truly” sandboxed, Apple wouldn’t have grounds to invoke security issues with regard to third-party app stores and app reviews.
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- paulddraper 9mo ago> In which category are there better iOS apps? Just one example, but aviation. Foreflight is iOS-only. Literally the only reason I have iOS devices is because of app availability in this category.
- dmitrygr 9mo agoIf you’d like an example, every single person who flies has an iPad to use an app called FOREFLIGHT. It doesn’t exist in android. Other EFBs exist on android but they are not as good. To a point that among things a new pilot student has to buy, like headsets and such, is an iPad.
- hoistbypetard 9mo agoI don't know about categories overall, but I'm attached to my iPad and won't switch to Android in part because Affinity is not available there, nor is there any near equivalent as far as I can tell. I still think Overcast is nicer to use than Antenna Pod. Microsoft Office apps work much better on iDevices, in my experience. (I know they exist for Android, but I've never had much luck editing there, where it actually works pretty nicely on iDevices.) I don't game much, but my kids like gaming on iDevices much better than Android. (I have an Android tablet that I use for testing things, and they consistently reject it in favor of iPhone or iPad.) Flowkey (music instruction app) works much better with my MIDI keyboard on iDevices than on Android (where it doesn't work and has to resort to microphone, which is buggy as hell). I'm sure some of this is just a matter of the platform being more polished in general, but these are some apps that keep people in my house on iDevices despite having plenty of access to Android. The quality of the Youtube app doesn't move anyone, nor do the browsers.
- 8note 9mo agohow do you live without ublock on your browser though? firefox with adblock is the high quality youtube app
- eldaisfish 9mo agosafari has ublock now.
- pvab3 9mo agoi just use Brave for iOS. I use the setting to block Youtube shorts, default to old.reddit, block ads and annoyances, etc.
- bigstrat2003 9mo agoBrave on Android has ad blocking built in, I would assume it does in iOS too. No need for ublock in that case.
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- password1 9mo agoThere's a saying in mobile development that in most companies the Android version of the app is a second class citizen. It usually brings substantially less money and so less money are invested in it. As a result the Android team is often understaffed and the app is almost always behind in feature development, less polished and with overall worse UX and more bugs compared to the iOS app. Also iOS still has a community of iOS only indie devs that publish polished apps for iOS, it's very common to find very popular iOS app with very curated UX that are exclusive to that platform and have a good fanbase.
- gunalx 9mo agoThe indie dev market is a flip flop, I have seen many great apps only available on android as well.
- atomicnumber3 9mo agoThis is more because the barrier to entry is so much lower. Android: have laptop that can do virtualization (...so basically ever laptop that can also do this:) and have enough ram to do run Android studio. Then you theoretically also need an Android device but even that's just because I assume you want to use the app you're making. That's it. iOS: $100/yr entry fee, plus you need Apple hardware, plus a "server" mode Apple hardware (Mac mini?) if you want to alt store and I assume your main device is a laptop. Just the money thing and the hardware thing is a huge stumbling block. I know it's rounding error for any even semi serious business but also let's be real, a ton of very important software is basically run on the budget of "the software devs main job and/or EU welfare state benefits".
- econ 9mo agoThe www wins. All you need is something that can run a browser. You edit a line, save, refresh and there it is, the real finished product, not emulation. Apps have terrible reliability too. I just wanted to order a pizza, the restaurant website offered a button for the play store and app store. There it said the app was for an outdated version of Android. Perhaps it had been like that for a long time? But lets imagine it happened today. Where are you to get your orders from? Ahh yes, the website. If apps didn't get the icon on the home screen 90% wouldn't have a reason to exist. Bunch of pictures with descriptions and an add to cart button. One shouldn't even need to write code, it should be as simple and obvious as serving a document. In stead you need a full time carpenter to keep the store running. The counter and shelves spontaneously collapse, doors regularly get stuck, light fixtures rain down from the ceiling. People trying to sell pizza deserve better, we can do better.
- Archit3ch 9mo ago> In which category are there better iOS apps? Audio, and it's not even close. On iPadOS you get full-fledged DAWs like Cubasis and Logic.
- ece 9mo agoCubasis and Blackmagic Camera are cross platform, not that "most people" would use these over whatever was preinstalled or the camera interface in their social app.
- kernal 9mo agoThe Android audio latency issues were solved long ago with Pro Audio. Whether Android audio apps chose to use it is on them and the significance of latency on their audio app.
- newsoftheday 9mo ago> while the Play store is an equally ad-riddled That made me realize how little I go to the Play store these days to just browse compared to the early days of Android. I personally can't stand Apple products ... dbut with Google doing their crap and Samsung acting like Microsoft with all the crap they load in I have to disable just to make the phone usable; I've seriously thought about moving to iPhone the past couple of years.
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- Klonoar 9mo agoIt’s not “strictly worse” for browsers unless you care about esoteric web spec features that few sites actually need today. Safari works fine. 99% of users legitimately do not give a fuck.
- nvr219 9mo agoWhy are you booing them? They're right.
- malcolmgreaves 9mo agoThere is not a single android app that is ever better than its iOS counterpart. At the very top margin, the android app is equivalent to its iOS counterpart. But there’s really only Gmail, photos, and Google Maps, and the big tech co apps that this small exception covers. Android apps don’t have to be worse from a technical standpoint, but in reality they are always worse than the equivalent iOS app.
- onli 9mo agoI personally wrote an app where the android version was better than the iOS version (because of background tasks and notification limitations on iOS). Your "not a single android app" is an absolute statement and thus absolutely wrong.
- jhatemyjob 9mo agoI don't understand how, almost 20 years after the release of these platforms, there are fully grown adult mobile OS fanboys still out there that either consciously or unconsciously spread lies about the difference between the platforms. Not just the parent comment, but this entire comment tree. For both iOS and Android. It's an almost religious cult-like type of behavior that reminds me of teenagers back in the early 2010s engaging in flamewars in YouTube comments arguing in favor of whichever gaming console they happen to own. In that context, it made sense because they were kids, but also, these platforms were new with not much information out there, and the users were basically forced to pick one platform or the other because of the diminishing returns from owning both. 15 years ago, a PS3 or an Xbox 360 cost around $500, which adjusted for inflation is around $800 today. Not worth dropping an extra $800 for a few exclusive titles. In the context of Android and iOS, you can gain access to both of these platforms quite easily... I mean, presumably, you already own an Android or iOS device already. For $150 you can get a decent device on the used market. Not state-of-the-art, but pretty good, all things considered. And with that you can gain a holistic perspective. I seriously just don't get how you can stay faithful to either Android or iOS. They both are awful. I sort of see it as a necessary evil, pick your poison sort of thing. But some people get Stockholm Syndrome and never bother to try the alternatives I guess? I find that really odd.
- NoahZuniga 9mo agoJust wanted to chime in to say Antenna Pod is really good.
- tjr 9mo agoForeFlight
- rockooooo 9mo agoThere's many iOS only apps that either don't have anything comparable on android or the alternative is just nowhere near as good (a lot of it is more creative-focused stuff)
- jesterson 9mo agoWould you mind mentioning at least one? Not something niche (as there is lotso of niche apps in Playstore which appstore will never see) but something sizeable userbase would install?
- rockooooo 8mo agoFlightly is really popular on iOS, there's not really a comparable android version. Gentler Streak and a lot of fitness app also don't have comparable android versions - most of the examples I can think of are apps that focus (and charge for) good design
- siddheshgunjal 9mo agoSo many amazing open-source developers just don't want to publish their app to app store because of the fees. On android, this is way way easier. If google keeps making this difficult, then i'll just have to switch to linux phone
- leetnewb 9mo agoProbably not exclusive to open source, but at least some projects are running into issues publishing to the Play Store with little/no explanation.
- mghackerlady 9mo agoiOS has the advantage of having a more closed app store, google play will shove whatever ad infested slop in your face and show you thousands of generic ad infested solutions to your problem, whereas iOS will usually have an easier to find not as sucky solution