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Samsung Family Hub for 2025 Update Elevates the Smart Home Ecosystem
- roscas 1y ago"Samsung Family Hub™ for 2025 Update Elevates the Smart Home Ecosystem The software update includes a more unified user experience across connected devices, enhancements to AI Vision Inside™, expanded Knox Security and more" In plain English now, Samgung will put advertising on your face but mostly important is that they will know and sell the data about what you buy. They call it Smart Home. Yeah, "smart". They are the smart ones, not those who buy this **.
- medbrane 1y agoBut hey, your fridge is now more secure because blockchain (I'm not kidding, it's in the press release)
- tormeh 1y agoI'm not fact-checking that because that's horrifying. Beyond parody. But I guess that's a trend currently. Edit: I checked because one shouldn't be outraged without fact checking. It's true.
- lostlogin 1y agoIt’s not a million miles from the Silicon Valley smart fridge plot, as long as someone hacks them all.
- bradly 1y agoIt appears to also use a peer-to-peer solution to preventing botnets. So a botnet to prevent botnets.
- j45 1y agoI wonder if the botnets attend conferences.
- heresie-dabord 1y ago> Update Elevates the Smart Home Ecosystem If you are not elevating the privacy of me and my family, CORPORATRON can suck it. I will spend my money to elevate the sales of a company that respects privacy instead.
- qmr 1y ago> I will spend my money to elevate the sales of a company that respects privacy instead. Is there such a thing?
- TheNewsIsHere 1y agoSometimes it matters that the original business isn’t getting the sale. Probably not in this particular case though. Someone my spouse knows recently bought one of the $3500 models that’s getting this, and said person was in the “test” group for the rollout. Their response to the situation has been that they won’t buy Samsung appliances ever again. So if enough of us do that. Maybe.
- celeritascelery 1y agoI don’t see where it says they are adding advertising. Is something there corporate speak for ads?
- estimator7292 1y ago"Elevating" is being used as a euphemism for "constantly advertising"
- oakesm9 1y agoIt’s buried in the “new widgets” section: > As part of the Family Hub™ software update, we are piloting a new widget for select Cover screens themes of Family Hub™ refrigerators. The widget will display useful day-to-day information such as news, calendar and weather forecasts, along with curated advertisements
- zero_shift 1y agoBuried half way down, As part of the Family Hub™ software update, we are piloting a new widget for select Cover screens themes of Family Hub™ refrigerators. The widget will display useful day-to-day information such as news, calendar and weather forecasts, along with curated advertisements.[11] Wow!! Elevating!!!
- FridayoLeary 1y agoIf by that they mean owners will elevate their fridge to the highest window in their building and throw it out, then yeah, they're right.
- p_j_w 1y agoAt least the ads are curated?
- mrandish 1y agoYes, selling to the highest bidders is a form of curation.
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- qmr 1y agoThanks, I hate it.
- batrat 1y agoIt is in the notes, in the article, there is no tracking: "[11] Ads on Family Hub Cover screens will serve contextual or non-personal ads. Family Hub devices are not collectiong personal information or tracking consumers."
- autoexec 1y agoI don't believe them, but if even they aren't lying to your face today they'll be pushing an update to add tracking tomorrow. Samsung is absolute trash and not to be trusted. They've demonstrated this so many times and in so many ways that anyone investing in "Samsung Family Hub" deserves what they get.
- robin_reala 1y agoIt’s really quite impressive how much this press release turns me off from every buying any white goods from Samsung at any point in the future. It’s a vortex of “no”.
- zrobotics 1y agoJust putting this out there: 4 months ago a friend's Samsung fridge (6 months old at the time, 2500USD price) failed due to a refrigerant leak. They had to spend 20 hours total on online chat and phone calls to get their warranty claim, and it took several weeks. So you absolutely don't want any Samsung appliances, even the non 'smart' ones.
- foobarian 1y agoEvery single Samsung appliance we had failed in sad ways. Stove knobs cracked and fell off. Fridge condensation mitigation failed leading to flooding. Fridge icemaker doesnt defrost properly and gets stuck. The worst thing is, these are not primary functions of the appliance - but as a result the whole thing gets tossed when replaced. (We inherited them from previous owners, was not by choice).
- TheNewsIsHere 1y agoAs someone who has now owned multiple Samsung fridges, I commiserate. In my market Samsung has driven away all the service techs. We managed to find one, and he said he only works on Samsung because it’s a captive market now. He complained that Samsung micromanages field services to a degree that they’re killing the service ecosystem for their appliances. We had him try to fix an issue with a dryer. On his way out he looked at the fridge and said “has the ice maker stopped working yet?” It actually had stopped working a year earlier. We didn’t get it fixed then because Samsung didn’t have anyone to send, and there were no third parties we could find (even unauthorized). We’ve been replacing all our appliances with other brands. Edit: PS - depending on the model of fridge, the ice maker infrastructure (typically near the filter) eventually start pooling water and might freeze in inconvenient places. Watch out for that. YMMV.
- jqpabc123 1y ago"Smart" hardware means "smart" for the manufacturer --- very "dumb" for the user/purchaser.
- baggy_trough 1y agoI'd be elevating this fridge right over the edge of a dumpster.
- rectang 1y agoCan you hack into "smart" fridges like this one to see when they are going unused, implying when the residents are away and the home is a good target for burglary?
- gruez 1y agoUnless you're someone that's specifically worth targeting (eg. crypto billionaire), no burglar is going through the effort for this. Moreover even without smart fridges, you'd have to contend with similar threats from other internet connected devices (eg. laptops or routers), which can also infer whether the home is occupied or not.
- iso1631 1y agoI think the plot of Home Alone leaves a lot to answer for
- dns_snek 1y agoI think the concern is that hacking an IOT platform would give you names, physical addresses, and household occupancy for all of their customers. Once you cross-reference that with another database you have a list of wealthiest households in a given zip code whose owners are on vacation, with live access to cameras inside their home.
- gruez 1y ago>I think the concern is that hacking an IOT platform would give you names, physical addresses, and household occupancy for all of their customers. The problem is that even if you can amass such an IOT botnet, you still need people on the ground to conduct such burglaries, and that scales poorly. Even if you tried to operate on a SaaS model, you're going to find that your clients (ie. drug users who want their next fix) are fickle and are very eager to snitch on you to the police, making it very likely that your botnet gets dismantled. On the other hand running a DDoS or "residential proxy" botnet comes with none of these hassles.
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- beezlewax 1y agoThis stuff is so disgusting.
- disambiguation 1y agohttps://app.opencve.io/cve/?vendor=samsung https://app.opencve.io/cve/?vendor=samsung
- throwuxiytayq 1y agoGotta love these complete fucking morons in charge. I could put together an LLM that would make better long-term product decisions than these VC-brained monkeys, and I’d only need single-digit B of parameters to beat their single-digit IQ. Congratulations on transitioning your brand from toxic to radioactive.
- IlikeKitties 1y agoNormies buy this stuff. You misjudge how much normies do not care.
- foobarian 1y agoI would happily buy this fridge and just disable the screen/cameras/smart stuff IF: all the essential functions actually worked properly.
- IlikeKitties 1y ago> Please connect the Samsung^R Family^tm H.U.B.^TM^R to the internet to start the refrigeration cycle. > Please connect the Samsung^R Family^tm H.U.B.^TM^R to the internet to continue the refrigeration cycle. You refrigeration cycle will end in 28 hours unless reconnected to the Samsung^TM KNOX^R Server System for your security > Please reposition the Samsung^R Family^tm H.U.B.^TM^R so that 6G Connectivity can be established to start the refrigeration cycle. > Please unblock all visual obstructions the Samsung^R Family^tm H.U.B.^TM^R Camera and reauthorize usage to continue the refrigeration cycle. > Please unblock all visual obstructions the Samsung^R Family^tm H.U.B.^TM^R Camera and Reauthorize using your government ID, fingerprint, iris scan and cryptographically singed anus print to continue usage. Failure to comply will cost you 25 Social Credits. You have 27 hours left.
- bloomingeek 1y agoThey don't care because they don't understand the possibilities of the tech. I've tried to give my extended family members some quick info on what not to do online and how to safely use their gizmos. Most of the time I get a blank stare. Caution, incoming naive comment(s): Companies should put their customer's well being before profits, because we all know most people don't understand what's going on with their digital devises. (Yes, customers should care more, but companies shouldn't be allowed to take advantage of those who can't grasp the techiness of the products.) Techiness, I just made that up. :)
- pier25 1y agoJust like smart TVs, I'm pretty sure smart fridges will end up analyzing your buying/consumption habits and selling that data.
- Ylpertnodi 1y agoThere's many things you could put in a fridge to confuse the analysis. Maybe.
- bloomingeek 1y agoExcellent idea! But beware, your sense of humor or protest-like product placement in your spy fridge could have consequences. This crazy world we live in is always looking to hurt/blame/expose/burn somebody.
- NetMageSCW 1y ago“adds”
- DANmode 1y agoNo, “ads”.
- cess11 1y agoThe people who developed the software for this ought to become outcasts from the profession, refused invitations to conferences, excluded from unions and so on.
- delusional 1y agoLOL. We're on hackernews. This sort of stuff is basically the bread and butter of this venture capital funded website.
- soared 1y agoNot far off https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/tovala https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/tovala A SMART-OVEN-PAIRED SUBSCRIPTION MEAL SERVICE.
- ryandrake 1y agoYea, one thing I've learned--if you ever even suggest that software engineers should be held responsible for writing harmful software or working on unethical projects, you're going to get downvoted so fast your head will spin. HN commenters will happily build the Torment Nexus as long as the JIRA ticket is filled out correctly and they have clear requirements.
- wiseowise 1y agoJust ten more tickets and I can retire safely, it’s supposed to be “the next guy’s problem.” So long, suckers!
- cess11 1y agoSounds like the right place to voice this suggestion. If I only did it where everyone agrees with me it'd be a waste of time, of which none of us have very much.
- add-sub-mul-div 1y agoBuddy, you're on the wrong web site! I was guilty of it myself at times during my career, but luckily I was able to retire just before things started to get unavoidably shitty.
- 1970-01-01 1y agoThe important question is what happens if I don't connect it to Wi-Fi? Does the compressor motor refuse to work??
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- gdulli 1y agoThat is important because as a buyer, I need to be able to tell the difference between the legitimate unacceptable extant user experiences vs. the FUD about things that are trivially avoidable but still get forwarded and reposted with exaggeration and hysteria. I can't always avoid the latter category on principle.
- unethical_ban 1y agoI assume the "smart features" will refuse to work. We need a law that requires IoT devices have a method of shutting off connectivity entirely, and requiring that core functionality remains intact.
- eep_social 1y agolet’s start with cars. I’ve accepted that I’ll never buy a new car again which is a real shame as EVs have a ton of potential. I’d be so happy to be wrong but the trend seems to be inescapable right now.
- unethical_ban 1y agoYep, if I bought a car today I would want to check that it has no onboard GPS and no functional modem.
- gdulli 1y agoI just got an S25 and having a Samsung account at all is optional. I never had one on my previous Galaxy phones either. I couldn't even accidentally use their AI or other intrusive crap with a misclick because I'd be taken to a screen where I have to sign up and agree to their privacy policy etc. Which obviously I don't. I wouldn't consider buying a smart/Samsung refrigerator at all but I'm curious, is having blockchain, AI, and a Samsung account mandatory here? Or do they allow for discerning users who don't want that stuff? Is that market segment important to them?
- conradfr 1y agoBesides the ads I barely understood what any of those features do, let alone why I would want them.
- clickety_clack 1y agoNone of the features even touch on ideas related to keeping food cold. They’re so deep in advertising that the only feature they can think their customers are interested in are related to seeing ads.
- baq 1y agoWhen I was furnishing my home a decade ago I went out of my way to not buy anything Samsung. Sad to see it only got worse.
- game_the0ry 1y ago> "Elevates the Smart Home Ecosystem" The type of corpo-speak that gives an mba a rock hard erection. Vulgar jokes aside, I want to know who is buying ads on fridges and what the roas on a fridge ad is.
- busyant 1y ago> I want to know who is buying ads on fridges and what the roas on a fridge ad is. Who knows, really? But maybe the same people who put ads on the gas station pumps that I use? Those things blare at max volume and I still have no idea what they're selling. Amusing anecdote: About 60 years ago, my grandfather (immigrant who was not well versed in mass-production) wrote a letter to the local newspaper asking that they omit the advertisements when they built his copy of the paper. "I never read them" he said. My mother had to explain to him how his copy was gonna be just like everyone else's.
- harvey9 1y agoAny chance he was just trolling them? Mass production of printed pages started a few centuries before he was born so I doubt he honestly thought his paper was custom-made.
- busyant 1y agoI guess I'll never know. It happened before I was born, but my mother thought it was funny.
- ryandrake 1y agoIt'll be like those disgusting bottom-of-the-barrel YouTube ads, but contextual: "Need to clean out your stuck poop (video brown liquid)? Eat more fiber, because what's in this fridge....."
- gosub100 1y agoProbably slimy politicians, desperate to tell you how horrible the other tribe is while selling you their tribe's promises that will never happen. I'm sure campaign ads have taken a huge hit over previous decades when people actually watched TV or listened to radio.
- Oras 1y agoIf I am the product, can I have the fridge for free then? This is so annoying, Amazon did it with Kindle, now Samsung with fridges?!
- IncreasePosts 1y agoI would never buy a fridge with a monitor built in, but I did buy a house that came with one. I'll have to make sure I keep clicking don't agree to the new ToS
- ksajadi 1y agoMy Samsung TV keeps blocking around 20% of the display at random times to tell me their terms and conditions have changed. Of course I have the option of checking it by reading the whole thing on my TV and then running a diff to see what’s changed but I don’t have an option to opt out of the terms. It’s way too frequent and runs at random times in the middle of a movie so I always choose Accept. Give me a dumb TV any time of the day now
- malfist 1y agoDisconnect it from the internet and use an appletv. It can't update then. This works until apple enshitifies
- cyanydeez 1y ago"Give some other monopoly rulr over your attention"
- celeritascelery 1y agoApple TV is much better about this. I have never had it pop up or interrupt me. When it is idle it just goes to a pleasant screen saver and then powers off after a while. It doesn’t try and promote content or display ads for shows. Granted, that could change at any time, but right now I think it is better than all the alternatives.
- Shadowmist 1y agoAds are coming to Apple Maps so it’s probably only a matter of time before the rest of the ecosystem is infected.
- M4v3R 1y agoIt is better, but I hated how some time ago they started showing trailers at the start of a show, with no option to turn this off. It’s a small thing but it’s super annoying, if I want to check out what’s new I will do it myself, thank you very much.
- PaulRobinson 1y agoIt will sell very well because it a) will be cheaper than non-advertising laden fridges, b) will make more money meaning they can spend more on marketing and c) it has an air of "living in the future" about it. Most of us here see it for what it is, because we know what happens to the data. I think the future is going to have more of this. But, I can also imagine people paying more for almost everything that is ad-supported today to get non-ad supported versions in the future, not because of the data concerns, but because of the opportunity for status signalling - ad-supported devices like this will be seen as something "only poor people have" within two decades. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not.
- Jolter 1y agoWithin two years they will launch a monthly ad-free subscription tier.
- PaulRobinson 1y agoThat might force them into providing better warranty support: if my fridge isn't working any more, I'm going to stop paying them money. Obviously subscription-free becomes another tier of status, but if by paying a monthly fee I get 24 hour maintenance support for fear of losing my sub revenue, well... There's already parallels around this to an extent. I pay Apple money every month for storage, ad-free TV, music and games, confident my data is my data. As a result, they might have a customer for life, because the alternatives are awful in comparison even if I pay less per month or overall for them.
- Jolter 1y agoI have very good experience of Samsung’s warranty support for a washing machine, actually. The thing that makes corporations give better warranty support is not more money. Giving them more money does not incentivize them to suddenly give better service or make higher quality goods. The thing is consumer protection laws. In the EU, consumer goods have a minimum two-year warranty period. This incentivizes higher quality manufacturing.
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- iammjm 1y agoI still struggle to imagine why would I ever need a smart fridge.
- seydor 1y agoWhen buying a fridge with a smartphone in it what do you expect, more fridge or more phone?
- dangoodmanUT 1y agoI like my subzero No screens except a little lcd at the top when you open it to see the temps No WiFi, no Bluetooth, just a cold fucking box
- darknavi 1y agoTotally agree. The house we bought in 2019 has a Subzero and it's the best fridge I've had. No frills (other than an ice maker), it just works. I dread the day I have to repair or replace it ($$) but it's been rock solid in the 5-6 years we've lived here so far.
- lambdaone 1y agoThis really is a Black-Mirror-esque hellscape, and the fact that this is marketed as something to be desired is absolutely astonishing.
- iamcalledrob 1y agoJust watched the Black Mirror "Common People" episode which is on this subject. It's one of the creepiest because of just how close to the present day it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_People_(Black_Mirror) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_People_(Black_Mirror)
- atmosx 1y agoSmart devices are a bad idea. And while I won’t mess with my Mercedes, I prefer dummy TV + media server/appleTV or chromecast.
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- daneel_w 1y agoInfuriating.
- clickety_clack 1y agoWhat is the “best” fridge to get now? Like, say a standard American fridge with a stainless steel door with a freezer compartment, just for food (no tech, screens, ice making or water dispensing nonsense).
- 0xC0ncord 1y agoThere are plenty of fridges that don't incorporate "smart" features. There's nothing really complicated about a giant box that you put food in to keep cold and maybe an integrated water dispenser. I've been shopping for a new fridge lately, and from what I gather most "smart" fridges are still extremely expensive and that makes "non-smart" fridges still very desirable. In other words, "smart" features may not be new, but they aren't standard on a typical fridge... yet.
- jedimastert 1y agoSamsung still makes regular fridges too, although I'm confused by the fact that you put water-dispensing/ice-making and screens together. I have a Samsung Bespoke, for example, and you can 100% turn the ice-making off and just use that part of the freezer for more freezer space. No screen, the from it blank because all the water dispensing stuff is on the inside and I think (?) you can get one without it
- clickety_clack 1y agoThe water dispensing/ice making stuff just seem like a needless complication to me, with extra parts that probably decrease the life of the machine. I just want a high quality, decent-looking box that stops food from going off.
- jedimastert 1y agoThat's a fair point
- seany 1y agoReally any option that has true dual compressors is going to be fairly solid. We just got a Bosch 800 and have been quiet happy with it
- zb3 1y agoHmm, do Samsung executives/developers actually use this stuff at home? Does the author who wrote this BS piece actually leave those ads enabled?
- jcalvinowens 1y ago> Family Hub™ refrigerators[4] with AI Vision Inside technology will receive upgrades to enable recognition of frequently used packaged foods and even more fresh fruits and vegetables to help families reduce food waste and save money. This has to be one of the silliest solutions in search of a problem I've ever seen. The fridge costs $3000, by the way.
- squigz 1y agoI think there's some potential here, with regards to keeping track of when things were added/might go bad. At least for me, who easily forgets things until it's too late.
- dboreham 1y agoA thing that can read the expiry dates on food packages that take me 20 minutes to find because they're printed in light gray on gray background would be useful.
- jdiff 1y agoIt would be. That was the original promise of the Family Hub+ fridges with AI Vision Inside™ technology. But you won't find that here, and it's not going to be coming in an update. This fridge can't properly identify fruits and veggies, let alone anything in any sort of packaging. As I demo the thing, it keeps taking snapshots of the back of my head and insists that the fridge is just packed full of kiwis.
- squigz 1y agoAye, the original version of my comment had "If it's reliable enough" as a qualifier. > full of kiwis Also this is utterly hilarious to me.
- j45 1y agoFolks seem to use tools like grocy. If a Fridge had a barcode scanner built into it, that might be a start.
- more_corn 1y agoI have already started my permanent and total Samsung boycott.
- curioussquirrel 1y agoAlthough I loathe ads, I think that for new products where the presence of ads is disclosed clearly upfront, this is acceptable. Especially if this comes with a discount. We have Kindles with and without ads and people are generally fine with it. But the fact that this gets retrofitted to fridges that people already bought, without any way of opting out or other mitigation, is criminal. Is this a lawsuit in the making? Am I naive?
- jdiff 1y agoThose Kindles, which I am also (mostly) okay with, are also $100 devices whose price is subsidized by those ads. These fridges are $3500 typically, and theoretically an MSRP of $4700. They're at the high end of consumer appliances. I don't believe it's a lawsuit in the making, this is (at least partially) America, land of freedom from consumer protections, but it is horrid.
- j45 1y agoKindles didn't always have ads at the same price.
- j45 1y agoThe fridges originally didn't have ads.
- gosub100 1y agoI dont like them either, but if the fridge were cheaper (this one isn't) or had other features I wanted, I'd consider buying it and just covering up the ad screen. Another concern is energy consumption. In this age of energy star and touting how efficient appliances are, it doesn't make sense to have a screen that is always-on. The real killer feature Samsung needs is an automatic warranty. I would never buy Samsung again, unless they started a new trend where all repairs are covered for 10 years (not sold as an add-on during checkout).
- Pooge 1y ago> this is acceptable This is not. An appliance—which should never be connected to the Internet in the first place—that costs 4 digits in USD should never show you ads in any way. You obviously don't "loathe" ads if you're even capable of reasoning about that kind of behavior. Stop trying to shove ads 24/7 in every millimeter of available space. On the upside, it will be very easy to find more reliable and cheaper fridges than that.
- neilv 1y agoTo technologists with societal awarenesses, this whole direction of Samsung is concerning. But a personally funny thing about this particular episode, to me, is that when I left a very nice CS PhD program, to switch schools, to work on AI+HCI for software agents (before the enabling AI tech was ready)... the most common soundbite that the PI gave to prospective corporate sponsors who visited most days, was something like... "You could have a 'digital butler', who knows what you have in your fridge, and orders milk when you're running out." (Aside: The students working on agents and wearable computing at the time were actually disproportionately ones also interested in privacy, at the university. Maybe because we were Internet-savvy from shortly before the dotcom gold rush (default Internet person sentiment was pro-privacy, pro-altruism, etc.), or maybe because we tended to be technical and thinking forward about emerging networked applications, and could guess where this was going.) On HN, we always see a bunch of loud voices about various facets of IoT dystopia, but that doesn't reflect the broad population, yet. And as more people start to become aware, they tend to get sold diversionary snake oil solutions by influencers (e.g., "keep buying and deploying these devices, just set up a PiHole, and you'll totally be OK; like and subscribe"), while dystopian product movements march onward.
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- ctxc 1y ago"Knox...advanced security solution built on private blockchain technology" Hmm. What would you need consensus and immutability for? Nonsensical.
- j45 1y agoPlacing all home automation gear on a dedicated guest or IOT SSID is critical. Best to treat them all like hostile devices and limit what they can do to what you bought them to do.
- ryandrake 1y agoOr don't buy them in the first place. Since nobody here likes regulation, why don't we start at least trying (hopelessly) to vote with our wallets?
- j45 1y agoThat's a good choice - buying things that behave is much more preferable, but often like tvs and other gear, ads can come in, or the "free" cloud they depend on disappears.
- therobots927 1y agoI had to disconnect my Samsung smart TV from the internet because every time I turned it on it would immediately go to the live TV app and play a minimum of one minute of some random show from the 90s. Now I use Apple TV. This is the kind of thing that needs heavy regulation.
- httgp 1y agoI’m struggling with this too, and I cannot disable or remove the live TV app. If I get an Apple TV, can I have the TV always default to it on startup?
- therobots927 1y agoYes but only if you disconnect the TV from the internet. I think I was able to do it in the settings of the TV but you could also change your WiFi password.
- blibble 1y agodid Samsung not realise that HBO's "Silicon Valley" was supposed to be satire? guess they tuned out before the fridges inevitably get rooted and ended up as part of a botnet
- jesse_dot_id 1y agoI don't buy insta-botnets and I never will.
- anjel 1y agoUp next: those 1 inch OLED displays that are all the rage
- AnimalMuppet 1y agoSo, let me see: I can pay $1200 for a really nice fridge that keeps my food cold. Or I can pay $3000 for a fridge that keeps my food cold, and also shows me ads. Is being shown ads worth $1800 to me? Hmm... decisions...
- sathackr 1y ago[11] Ads on Family Hub Cover screens will serve contextual or non-personal ads. Family Hub devices are not collectiong[sic] personal information or tracking consumers. How are they serving "contextual" ads without collecting/tracking anything?
- harvey9 1y agoProbably lifestyle and food/kitchenware ads. They know you can afford a smart fridge even if they know nothing else about you.
- zvmaz 1y agoI don't buy any appliance that has "smart" in it. Yeah, no, thanks.
- throwacct 1y agoI mean, if you buy a "smart" appliance at this point, you want the ads and everything else that would come after.
- brewtide 1y agoI'm shopping for a new range, because mine just died a few weeks before good ole "T-day". This is one of the primary reasons a Samsung range isn't crossing my list at all.
- hexbin010 1y agoHonestly, there have been plenty of warning signs that Samsung appliances are trash for well over a decade if not more. If you own one, sell it some other idiot
- RajT88 1y agoAnyone figured out how to get lineageos on their Smart Fridge yet?
- knorker 1y agoAcross the spectrum of all Samsung consumer hardware, phones, fridges, smart watches, earbuds, TVs, etc., they are probably the most consumer hostile company in existence. I would NEVER buy one of their devices again. I've learned that they will punch you in the face every time, with deliberate choices made just out of spite (like pulse meter on smart watches, IIRC, only being available if you have a Samsung phone. Pixel phone is a no). Connecting one of their TVs or fridges to the internet? Lol, not today, Satan. Not in this lifetime.
- dwighttk 1y agoads?
- butz 1y agoWe need that guy that made smart vacuum cleaner work fully offline to purchase one of "elevated" fridges :).
- steve-atx-7600 1y agoWould be nice if they could make a fridge that was simply reliable. I bought one of their fridge’s and couple years later had to do a ridiculous number of mods to the ice maker and fridge that were in the Samsung official service bulletin at the time of purchase. It’s reliable now, but will never buy anything from them again. Many similar models from 2010s had similar issues.
- ChrisArchitect 1y ago[dupe] Two weeks old news OP? Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45737338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45737338 and Previous outrages: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45291107 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45291107 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45262808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45262808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45292666 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45292666
- gnarlouse 1y agoThe reason this type of shit keeps happening is because theres no MAD in classwarfare. Think about that.
- wiseowise 1y agoLower class has no weapons at all. Choice is illusion when all alternatives are the same.
- gnarlouse 1y agoWeapons available to the lower class: - corporate economic boycotting - voting for independents - disconnecting from social media platforms - disconnecting from ai platforms Regular people still have a chance to demand a stake in the future. They're just not even trying because they're all psychologically demolished and partitioned.
- hirako2000 1y agoThe fact that I cannot tell with absolute certainty that the title of this thread has a typo makes my head hurt. Edit: in fact after reading the article, I can. The title is meant to read "Ads".
- busymom0 1y agoThey should add a monthly subscription to open the fridge door next.
- tempodox 1y agoThat’s some funny typo for “ads” in the post title.
- crest 1y ago"unified user experience" == the ads are synced across devices
- zatkin 1y agoMy wife and I are in the market for a new refrigerator and we have never heard anything good about Samsung. I was at least expecting different "tiers" to have different reputations, but no, it's the entire _brand_ that is bad. Parts getting defective within the first few years, low quality materials, and now this? No thanks.
- Digory 1y agoAlways buy the warranty with Samsung refrigerators. After three failed attempts to repair our ice maker, the insurer refunded the purchase price.
- anymouse123456 1y agoSamsung consistently treats their customers with contempt. Never buy a second thing from a company that treats you with contempt.
- adverbly 1y agoI swear somebody should come in with an appliance brand which literally just builds things like they did 40 years ago before planned obsolescence and smart technology. They would clean up. I think the only thing that's actually improved is energy efficiency. But honestly my favorite appliances are my super old washer and dryer. I don't care that they are less energy efficient. Easy to use, nothing breaks and they have lasted forever.
- userbinator 1y agoIt seems that they're all focused extremely precisely on tiny efficiency gains in standardised tests and stuffing in unwanted hostile "smartness" at the expense of longevity and simplicity. At least the former is mostly due to regulations; and there have been some good changes recently in that area, although it's hard to tell whether they'll have any effect: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43065757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43065757
- ifh-hn 1y agoI don't care if this is down voted, or flagged: fuck Samsung!
- mito88 1y agoyes!
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- daft_pink 1y agoNever buying a samsung device ever again.
- jeena 1y agoI bought the Samsung SmartTag 2 to track the children, keys, etc. and connect them to HomeAssistant. Turns out Samsung actively blocks me from me being able to connect HA to their solution and the guy who was able to keep circumventing it and created a HA component which worked, gave up on it and archived the git repo. Now only I who has a Samsung phone is able to use it, my wife and the children can't make them ring when they're looking for them and can't see on the map where the things might be.
- Aerbil313 1y agoYou want a smart home? Home Assistant is FOSS, integrates with every device you own, and much more advanced than any proprietary platform. Look no further: https://home-assistant.io https://home-assistant.io I'm just a happy user.