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Syncthing Android App Discontinued
- analog31 2y agoWell, I'll be putting the APK in a safe place, along with my Turbo Pascal floppies. ;-) Syncthing for Android has been vital to managing my sheet music collection.
- jsiepkes 2y agoThere is an Android Syncthing fork [1] which is active and 1.3K stars (for whatever that's worth). [1] https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android
- felurx 2y agoI've been using that one for a long time now. I recall that when I got started with Syncthing (some months to a year or two ago?), it seemed to have been the folk wisdom to use Syncthing-Fork, but I don't recall what the reason was.
- FierySpectre 2y agoFor me, I'm pretty sure it had something to do with better and more granular run conditions on folders.
- krick 2y agoWeirdly enough, I cannot find either on Play right now..even though I have it (the original, I believe) installed through Play.
- jasonvorhe 2y ago> Head to the "releases" section or F-Droid for builds. It's in the description on GitHub. Get F-Droid.
- ajb 2y agoGood to know, although the Readme says: "Planning to close my Google Play Developer Account. Please say hi if you are interested in obtaining the latest gplay release files from me to help in publishing this app."
- Macha 2y agoIt's on f-droid rather than google play. I think for the people interested in using Syncthing rather than Dropbox or Google's syncing option, that's not _that_ much of a problem.
- stavros 2y agoIt's going to be much less of a problem for everyone, with these draconian Play policies, as I imagine more and more people will be installing F-droid.
- SomeHacker44 2y agoF-Droid is not allowed if you use Google Advanced Security on your account. :( You have to side-load.
- stavros 2y agoHmm, what's GAS?
- em-bee 2y agoas far as i know f-droid is using the same mechanism to install apps as would any other app (though i remember reading that this wasn't always the case and that it switched to the standard mechanism at some point), like a filemanager. either an app can invoke the installation or it can't. there should be nothing in f-droid that would make installation any different.
- NotPractical 2y agoI'm always happy to see F-Droid exclusive apps. Gives Google less power over what they can do.
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- oakpond 2y agoSeems to work. Exported the config of the other one and imported it in this one. Seems all the settings are there. Sync seems to work too. Kudos to the devs.
- SeriousM 2y agoYep, that's what I use. Very happy with it for years!
- sabbaticaldev 2y agoGoogle is in self-destruct model
- krick 2y agoIt is self-destruct only if you have competition. They don't, so it's just destruct.
- hparadiz 2y agoThis is one of the few reasons I was still on Android over iOS. If Android becomes just as bad as iOS why would I keep putting up with Android? It's exhausting dealing with operating systems that treat you like a child. If that's the choice I may as well not even have a "smart" phone. There's nothing smart about it anymore. It's become a toy with a camera.
- opengears 2y agoSadly there is no real alternative to Android at the moment. Replicant are also just 2-3 developers afaik. https://replicant.us/ https://replicant.us/
- jasonjayr 2y agoFrom the (current) final comment at https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing-android/issues/2064 https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing-android/issues/2064 > Nothing came of the discussions with google. Demands by Google for changes to get the permission granted were vague, which makes it both arduous to figure out how to address them and very unclear if whatever I do will actually lead to success. Then more unrelated work to stay on play came up (dev. verification, target API level), which among other influences finally made me realize I don't have the motivation or time anymore to play this game.
- izacus 2y agoI don't think Google was ever buy a "I don't want to use file APIs because writing the code would be hard." excuse for a security issue. I don't know what kind of exact "discussions" were possible here for "give me access to all user data, photos and everything because I don't think I want to use SAF APIs". It's like that dude in your company that will have a meltdown in PRs over his better way instead of fixing the comments and having code submitted. Apple won't let you write into random directories past their APIs either, just because it would be too hard to use ObjC/Swift.
- homebrewer 2y agoPut a lot of scary warnings around it then. It's for the user to decide if they want to take the risk or not. Google took something that solved real problems better than any alternative could, did so for many years, and destroyed it for no real reason other than to further tighten control they have of the supposedly "open" platform.
- izacus 2y agoThey did, the upstading app developers like this one just forced people to give them full access to all data in the app (or the app wouldn't run) and ended up not implementing scoped storage - something HNers outright demanded several times and exposed as a good upside of iOS. So stick had to come out. The full filesystem access is now reserved for apps that manage full filesystem (e.g. file explorers) and that's it. Scoped storage APIs were introduced in 2013, 11 years ago and Play started enforcing them in 2020, so the experiment with scary warnings was running for 7 years and developers refused to give up on that sweet full private file access. Granted, SAF is quite a shitty API.
- lopkeny12ko 2y ago...Does the author not understand that the Google Play Store is not the only distribution mechanism for apps? Why not just continue to distribute APKs for users to install manually?
- gurchik 2y agoThe app is on F-Droid, which is mentioned in the article: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.nutomic.syncthingandroid/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.nutomic.syncthingandroid... I’m not sure why it can’t continue to be. Does anyone know why?
- somat 2y agoI suspect it could be, however it sounds like the author has lost all motivation to continue work on syncthing android and has formally announced that no further development will be done. And as much as I like syncthing-android I appreciate this sort of straight forward communications more and salute the author for clearly stating intentions. Now seeing as it is open source (hooray) The way I think that will go is as follows, we will continue using the existing apk(I get mine off f-droid) for a few months to years, in the meantime seeing as the app is so useful to so many a few forks will arise, one will end up being the best, and we will eventually start using that one.
- RussianCow 2y agoPresumably because most people don't know about F-Droid, and there's a question of whether it's worth continuing to develop the app for a tiny subset of the original audience.
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- suprjami 2y agoIt's stated in the post. They do not think F-Droid provides enough distribution because it's not as popular as Google Play.
- _fat_santa 2y agoLooking at the underlying thread[1], the author mentions that it's very hard to publish on Google Play > Reason is a combination of Google making Play publishing something between hard and impossible Can someone expand on what's going on here? [1]: https://forum.syncthing.net/t/discontinuing-syncthing-android/23002 https://forum.syncthing.net/t/discontinuing-syncthing-androi...
- binkHN 2y agoWhile I don't know about this developer's specific issues, I can comment on my own issues with Google Play as an Android developer. Google Play continues to become more and more stringent with app permissions and the approval of these permissions is very vague. With my own app, from one minor release the next, one day I'll receive approval for my app's permissions and the next week I will not even though only minor changes to the app have been made. When I reach out to Google Play support, the answers are always extremely vague, canned and repetitive and I never know if an update to my app will get approval or not. It's a horrible way to develop anything.
- 1over137 2y agoSounds just like Apple’s stores!
- lawgimenez 2y agoThe most annoying requirement is their Play Store delete account url. We have an API where we can delete the user’s account. But no, Google wanted a stupid url.
- macintux 2y agoIs that so that users who no longer have/want to use the app can still delete their account?
- lawgimenez 2y agoYes we have a delete account option in our settings screen. But Google asking for url webpage for this scenario is just unnecessary. Apple accepted it with no questions.
- j1elo 2y agoWhat the heck, I literally come from upvoting another submission's comment about combining LocalSend with Syncthing [1], because the idea seemed great... That's gone very fast from "oh yeah!" to "oh no!" [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41891983 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41891983
- ensignavenger 2y agoThere is a fork mentioned above.
- xnx 2y agoThis is disappointing. SyncThing is one of my reasons for picking Android over iPhone. I hope the author reconsidered. Would any GoFundMe-style donation goal make the hassle worthwhile?
- exabyte 2y agoOne of the top comments has a link to a fork in case you haven't seen it
- andreldm 2y agoWhen I migrated from Android to iPhone, syncthing was my main pain point. There is Möbius Sync, even though not open source, at least it’s an one-time small payment, which is fair considering the dev license cost. Unfortunately it’s not as reliable as the Android official app or the fork, I guess Apple is very strict with background processing, but hey it’s better than nothing.
- voltaireodactyl 2y agoJust discovered the synctrain iOS beta which is extremely promising.
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- DavideNL 2y agoIt's on the AppStore now... you can just download it there.
- atmosx 2y agoI'm using Syncthing to sync documents between devices and I own a mac fleet and an iPhone. The Möbius Sync[1] client (no affiliation) works great for me. [1] https://mobiussync.com/ https://mobiussync.com/
- warble 2y ago
- 1over137 2y agoIs Google treating Dropbox the same way? Sounds like it could be anticompetitive behaviour.
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- hu3 2y agoWelp, there goes this recommendation out the window. Back to suggesting Dropbox.
- stavros 2y agoSuggest F-droid instead.
- krick 2y agoThat's just great. It's literally the only use case I had for it. There are tons of better ways to share files on PC.
- themoonisachees 2y agoDo give KDE connect a try. It's great
- krick 2y agoI did, before syncthing. It... isn't great.
- blooalien 2y agoKDE Connect is great, but not for this use-case. SyncThing was absolutely the choice for automated syncing of files between Android and PC. KDE Connect just doesn't do that (AFAIK). The two tools serve pretty different purposes.
- krick 2y agoKDE Connect wasn't really reliable and easy to use while I did. And Syncthing pretty much eliminated the need to use KDE Connect for me. The only extra-feature of KDE Connect was sharing the buffer, and I just paste to Obsidian now instead (any text editor would do, but I don't know anything better, even though I hate it for being closed-source). Maybe slightly less ergonomic than KDE Connect in this regard, but it's negligible. And I don't need to send files, if I can just share files. In fact, I think I never even connected the phone via USB since I started using Syncthing. Copying/moving to/from shared folder is amazingly both more ergonomic and much faster (I never learned, why moving files to Android device via USB is so insanely slow). So I really don't know an alternative. It solved pretty much all my phone/PC sync needs. It also enables backuping the important stuff (I don't use Google for that, or course). Dropbox doesn't cut it either. I really don't imagine how would I use my phone w/o Syncthing, it's pretty much essential.
- pomian 2y agoI would think that a user competent to use and want sync thing, is perfectly capable of depending on f droid as a source for the apk. Can that not be enough of a distribution channel.
- KetoManx64 2y agoI guess we will find out in the next couple of months as people either migrate to the F-Droid based "syncthing-fork" or move to a different sync tool.
- denismi 2y agoWithout Android what's even the point? If all I have is laptop and desktop, I probably just run scheduled rsyncs or a systemd timer something.
- EasyMark 2y agoYou can run that on android? Sorry I’ve been out of the android world for a while :)
- crabmusket 2y agoNo, the OP said they'd do that if they weren't considering Android.
- em-bee 2y agosyncopoli does scheduled rsync from android
- meowster 2y agoDoes anyone have any other opensource recommendations?
- timetraveller26 2y agorsync or rclone on termux
- beeflet 2y agothat would require you to set up a domain name and use DDNS and trust your registrar, or to just always have your computers at a static IP with no NAT blocking you whatsoever.
- wazzaps 2y agoOr use Tailscale to solve both issues at once
- jlokier 2y agoI tried Termux and found the application files I wanted to rsync aren't visible in Termux, except maybe by rooting the phone. But I need to use banking and auth apps daily on it, so I assume that isn't an option.
- NotPractical 2y agoYou have to use `termux-setup-storage` to gain access to shared storage. If you're referring to an app's private app data folder, there's no way to access that without root via any app.
- donatzsky 2y agoThere's a fork called, rather creatively, Syncthing-Fork. It's available on F-Droid.
- warble 2y ago
- havaloc 2y agoJoining the IA Writer club on Android: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41658023 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41658023
- clot27 2y agoShit, this was the app I used to sync my obsidian notes through multiple devices.
- clot27 2y agoShit, this is the app I use to sync my obsidian notes through multiple devices. R.I.P.
- dang 2y agoUrl changed from https://old.reddit.com/r/Syncthing/comments/1g7zpvm/syncthing_android_app_discontinued/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Syncthing/comments/1g7zpvm/syncthin..., which points to this. Submitters: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Symbiote 2y agoDoes anyone know how long I could expect the current Syncthing Android app to continue working?
- suprjami 2y agoPlease read the article before commenting. It is clearly stated.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y agoIs it? I see > The last release on Github and F-Droid will happen with the December 2024 Syncthing version. but not even a hint as to whether that APK is likely to work in say 2027.
- Groxx 2y agoThe app will work until Google decides to remove APIs it uses, which hasn't been put on a roadmap yet AFAIK. This is just removing it from the play store, which is much picker about API use than the OS. The APK will continue to exist and run fine (though not developed, try a fork).
- rcarmo 2y agoI hope it can live on inside F-Droid somehow.
- redleader55 2y agoIt can be hosted in any app store, but because it doesn't use the correct APIs - according to Google - it will not work on newer Android devices.
- david_allison 2y agoAFAIK, it's fine on later devices, but Google Play specifically restricts the permission which they need (`MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE`)
- thenoblesunfish 2y agoThat's a bummer! Can anyone suggest an alternative way I can get files from my macOS laptop to my Android phone? I "just" want to put my folder of music files and m3us there so I can play them (with PowerAmp).
- momo777 2y agoLocalsend
- opengears 2y agoLocalsend is a great program - but no alternative to syncthing. Syntcthing is running in the background and syncing automatically. Localsend needs active user interaction. Is there a way how to use localsend similarily to Syncthing?
- thenoblesunfish 2y agoThat's not a dealbreaker for me, as I don't run syncthing continuously on either end, just when I'm trying to sync my music.
- eternityforest 2y agoSyncthing-fork from f droid
- kjrfghslkdjfl 2y ago[dead]
- treve 2y agoEek. That's how I get my keepass database on my phone. Anyone else in this predicament?
- cja 2y agoLikewise
- fuster 2y agoKeepass and Joplin.
- replete 2y agoResilio Sync is pretty good although proprietary
- Groxx 2y agosyncthing-fork has been working noticeably better for me for a couple years now: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.github.catfriend1.syncthingandroid/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.github.catfriend1.syncth...
- greenavocado 2y agoI need a serverless approach because my machines at home are off most of the time so that discounts SFTP. I also use syncthing-fork.
- lgbr 2y agoThe KeePass2Android app gains a bit of functionality if you use it with SFTP instead. You get the ability to, for example, merge changes in the event that there's a conflict. I recommend using SFTP to a machine that then runs SyncThing to the rest of your devices.
- ethagnawl 2y agoRe merges: that's very compelling. I've encountered that issue many times using Dropbox for syncing.
- butz 2y agoThank you google for killing yet another great app. There should be special category for apps that are "Done, Complete, Perfect as is", as with decent backwards compatibility on Android there should be no issues with them. I bet apk compiled for Android 1 still runs perfectly on Android 15.
- eternityforest 2y agoAndroid is one of the few platforms on earth where anything interesting actually could be done and finished, since they have actual stable API levels unlike Linux.... And they don't allow it
- Izkata 2y agoDepends on the exact functionality. I'm aware of some battery events you could listen to from the manifest file in 2, that were removed at some point after that and now you have to listen for them from a running service. It broke a bunch of battery monitoring apps when it happened. Also with services, there's additional requirements to keep them running that weren't there early on.
- carstenhag 2y agoThe problem, as most of the time, are bad actors. Which is the reason some permissions, SAF, disallowing targeting lower SDK versions etc were introduced on the Play Store.
- eternityforest 2y agoIf the Catfriend fork goes, I'll have no use for Syncthing at all, and it will be a very sad day in open source. I'll probably move to some proprietary app, since I'm definitely not interested in self hosting anything, and there's not really any FOSS equivalents other than Syncthing itself. Android really needs to just allow direct file access to any file which is under a user selected folder.
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- david_allison 2y ago>> Android really needs to just allow direct file access to any file which is under a user selected folder. > It does. No it doesn't, `ACTION_OPEN_DOCUMENT_TREE` provides you with a `DocumentFile`, which isn't a `java.io.File`. From their docs: > It offers a simplified view of a tree of documents, but it has substantial overhead https://developer.android.com/reference/androidx/documentfile/provider/DocumentFile https://developer.android.com/reference/androidx/documentfil... ---- Your fork uses `MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE` which Google Play heavily restricts: https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android/blob/main/app/src/main/AndroidManifest.xml#L36 https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android/blob/main/ap... This is very likely the reason that your fork no longer wishes to be on the Play Store: > Planning to close my Google Play Developer Account. Please say hi if you are interested in obtaining the latest gplay release files from me to help in publishing this app. https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android?tab=readme-ov-file#about-play-store-releases https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android?tab=readme-o... EDIT: The dangerous permission for `MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE` doesn't appear in the "App Info", which may be what you're seeing.
- iptrz6 2y ago> No it doesn't, `ACTION_OPEN_DOCUMENT_TREE` provides you with a `DocumentFile`, which isn't a `java.io.File`. You can call `contentResolver.openFileDescriptor` on a a `content://` Uri from SAF, and get a `ParcelFileDescriptor`, which can be turned into a real unix fd by calling `detach()` on it. Passing this fd into native code just works. That's not to say that, you know, SAF is actually sane, though. `DocumentFile` lazily IPCs to some StorageProvider process every time you retrieve a property of the file (mtime, size, whatever). There are ways to speed this up by retrieving everything via the lower level `DocumentContract` API, but it definitely feels like it was poorly thought out.
- solarkraft 2y agoSyncthing is essential for syncing some very important data for me. I’d be so disappointed if it was discontinued for the platform I use.
- dod9er 2y agoOnce again, Im also in the niche of avoiding pay-for dozens of small services and just getting my simple stuff synced. Bam, another blowback. Im eager to ready what alternatives HN crowd might come up with....
- andyjohnson0 2y agoI'm a big fan of Syncthing, and use it on Android as well as pc. But it seems they are relying MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission and I can't see a good reason for Google to go on permitting that in 2024. It gives an app too much power. Android has had scoped storage for a decade now. Time to get with the program and start using the SAF. It does feel very odd to be actually agreeing with the Goog on something...
- bakugo 2y agoAn app that's supposed to sync your files having access to your files is "too much power" now? It's hard to fathom just how much damage smartphones have done to personal computing, but statements like these are a grim reminder.
- carstenhag 2y agoWhen bad actors keep misusing and messing up user's folders & data, it was deemed necessary. I know I know, on desktop machines this is different. But they also suffer from hundreds of thousands of malware, ransomware, etc.
- andyjohnson0 2y ago> An app that's supposed to sync your files having access to your files is "too much power" now? An app that syncs your files just needs access to those file, not the entire filesystem - which is what MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE gives it. Scoped storage and the SAF would allow syncthing to do exactly what it needs to do. The problem is that the app maintainer is unwilling to do the work to bring this app into the modern era. > It's hard to fathom just how much damage smartphones have done to personal computing, but statements like these are a grim reminder. Grim? Really? Personal devices containing highly personal information, coupled to a virtually friction-free global app marketplace, need on-device and supply-chain protections. As an Android dev I can find plenty to be critical of when it comes to Google's api designs and app review criteria. But in this case I agree with them.
- eredengrin 2y ago
- amelius 2y agoI hate mobile computing so much.
- greenavocado 2y agoThis situation is so bad that I miss the Pocket PC Win32 developer experience
- RadiozRadioz 2y agoI've been considering making a new Android app for a while. A simple one to interact with a couple of my web services with some on-device storage, nothing complicated. More than anything, the thing that's stopping me is that I _know_ if I make it, a few Android versions later, it either won't work or won't be allowed on Play. I can't predict what random piece of the Android API/policy will change, but I know something will. And I'll have to waste my time fixing something that worked fine until Google arbitrarily broke it. I built one app before for JellyBean. I haven't been able to install it for years and I can't compile it for a new version because of a cascade of errors and required changes that I'm unwilling to do. JellyBean hadn't even reached 10 years old before my app broke, it's pathetic that app support crumbled and rotted away that quickly. It'll happen again, so I've been turned off of Android development. I totally understand the discontentment. It makes you feel powerless.
- carstenhag 2y agoPretty valid criticism. But as an android dev, it's quite normal. We got used to it. Build your app in the recommended way, don't do weird stuff, read the guidelines. Accept drawbacks. That's more or less what you have to do, then the Play Store/App Store will be happy. Build tools are mostly good with 1-2y old code, after that, yeah be ready to upgrade a lot.
- brokenmachine 2y ago>Build tools are mostly good with 1-2y old code This perfectly encapsulates the modern tech enshittification treadmill that I loathe. Redesigning the wheel every 2 years because some braindead MBA dreamed up another way to arbitrarily ruin things that work.
- eightys3v3n 2y agoThank you for your work. I'm sorry to see you go. I really hope Syncthing continues to have a presence on Android.
- scottbez1 2y agoI used to develop Android professionally (at Dropbox in the 2010s, so I have some familiarity with older Android filesystem APIs) and made a very conscious decision to switch to devx and backend work and get out of Android (as did most of my former Android colleagues). The unending hoops you had to jump through and API changes to keep your app working were too much of a pain. As a fun anecdote, in 2014 when the "secure" Storage Access Framework was new, I found a trivial directory traversal vuln that allowed writing to any app's private directory by just passing a "../../" file name to the system [0, 1]. It was so trivial I noticed it while just browsing AOSP source to understand SAF better... Android also used to grant world execute bits to app folders for the longest time, allowing malicious apps to create hard links to other apps' files by name, which could then be handed back to that app for a confused-deputy attack to gain access to the file contents. All that to say - I'm glad Android has been working on security, but it was built upon such a loose foundation that tons of apps used and abused that it's going to drive developers out of the ecosystem as they have to keep adapting to a continuous stream of major breaking changes as things are locked down. [0] Bug 18512473 fixed in https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/0cce535%5E!/ https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/... [1] Proof of concept video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8dpd8visrttqbfo/poc.mp4?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8dpd8visrttqbfo/poc.mp4?dl=0
- psanford 2y agoIt sucks that the ongoing maintenance cost for the native mobile platforms is so high. Who wants to develop on top of a platform that is constantly changing out from under you? It really makes me nostalgic for the vision of webOS (although not the implementation of webOS from 14 years ago).
- awill 2y agoBut that's Scott's point. If the OS devs had thought through this from the beginning, app devs wouldn't have to keep dealing with breakage. iOS devs have other issues, but not these. Apple and Google approached the mobile OS from opposite sides. Apple locked everything down and has gradually been adding access/features. Google left the barn door open, and is now trying to shut it. I know which OS/API I'd rather program against.
- AStonesThrow 2y agoI used Syncthing for a while between various Linux distros, and I used Syncthing-Fork on my Android tablet, and it was okay when it worked, but it often borked up, and there were so many arcane settings and weird failure modes. I realized that the only reason I was using Syncthing was because it appealed to the vestigial, ultra-paranoid crypto-fascist BOFH in me, and I had grown out of those attitudes. So today I just use Google Drive and MS OneDrive like a normal person. They work great. I love 'em. They don't fail like Syncthing. They're way more secure, and fully supported. Come join me! The water's fine!
- stavros 2y agoHow is Google Drive "way more secure" than a peer-to-peer encrypted solution?
- AStonesThrow 2y agoMost of us do not have IDS/IPS/DLP tooling in our home networks, nor do we have a 24/7 on-call SOC team monitoring their SIEMs dashboards. Google and Microsoft provision this stuff, even for consumers, with secure authentication and good protections.
- stavros 2y agoSyncthing is peer to peer, the files are already on the device. There's no way requiring one more device to be secure (the server) is better than not requiring it.
- Evidlo 2y agoIt uses STUN/TURN so your first point is irrelevant. I don't understand the second. Are you saying Syncthing is less secure?
- Svoka 2y agoI am developing and supporting game engines for over a dozen years. It works pretty much on any device which can run games. Supporting it for Android is the worst experience ever. This is by far the least reliable OS in terms of compatibility or changes they make. It gets more convoluted and crapier with every exec bonus and 'feature' google invents.
- shwouchk 2y agoFWIW I use syncthing-fork from f-store and im quite happy with it. Development seems kinda slow lately but it's chugging along.
- opengears 2y agoCan you please elaborate and link?
- tlhunter 2y agoThe Google Play Store is a massive pain in the ass lately. For whatever reason Google wants me to continuously update my Android apps to use whatever the latest APIs are despite such apps being mostly glorified webpages. The Apple App Store is a massive pain in the ass lately. For whatever reason Apple wants me to continuously update my iOS apps to use whatever the latest APIs are despite such apps being mostly glorified webpages.
- NotPractical 2y agoI wonder how many people using Syncthing actually obtained it from the Play Store and not F-Droid? The whole point of it is decentralization, right?
- brokenmachine 2y agoI don't mind centralized, as long as it's centralized to my own server.
- TwoNineFive 2y agoThis is one the reasons I root my phone and just run an ssh server on it, I can rsync anything anywhere, and do full efficient filesystem backups. If you don't have root, it's not your phone.
- thepra 2y agoI'm in the same boats, I have an app on play store but that dev verification thing will cost me around 90 euros where its not making me money even though its commercially driven still, I just can't be bothered to spend extra money for Google for their company verification requirements (ps: I tried to get support about it and was willing to provide the company info just to keep getting on the platform, but the only answers that I got were "you must use this (non free) system to have your company verified" and then I tacitly said "screw this")
- opengears 2y agoFor everyone using Android and fearing not to be able to use Syncthing anymore: fear not. This is only affecting the Google Play Store version of Syncthing. You can get Syncthing-Fork here on F-Droid http://f-droid.org/packages/com.github.catfriend1.syncthingandroid/ http://f-droid.org/packages/com.github.catfriend1.syncthinga...
- JeremyNT 2y agoThe catfriend fork works great (I use it) but to be clear, this post is about the official version. The official version will cease all development, it's not just limited to the Play Store.
- opengears 2y agoExactly, thanks for the clarification!
- kertoip_1 2y agoI don't understand. Author of the linked forum thread states that he discontinues both Google Play AND F-droid verion
- opengears 2y agoThe catfriend fork is not by the original author!