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Ask HN: Laid off folks, are you getting hired?

• RamblingCTO 4y ago
  I'm looking for > mid backend folks right now, kotlin + spring boot/micronaut. preferably rhein-main area/Germany or remote in Germany. Just hit me up ;) Good luck to everyone else.
  • FlyingSnake 4y ago
    I'm not looking for a job, but there are no contact details in your HN profile.
• axvk 4y ago
  Laid of from Meta with 10+ years of experience. Very low and slow response rate from big tech, but fintech and startups are replying pretty frequently. Most startups are willing to discuss higher roles. It's still a pay cut, but it's not too bad.
• ravagat 4y ago
  I'm a contractor and my existing contracts have all been cut almost in sync with the layoffs. I'm actively looking for a FT role now and it's been hit and miss with inbound (recruiters) and outbound (applications) leads.
• the_jeremy 4y ago
  I was searching starting in October, but not laid off. I applied to ~20 places, didn't hear back from any of them. I turned on #OpenToWork on LinkedIn and got ~150 recruiters reaching out per month, of which <4% were offering competitive compensation. I got to the hiring manager stage for 75% of the ones I responded to, and failed 100% of the leetcode style programming challenges I was given. Two companies didn't have that round, so I made it to the offer stage on both of those, and accepted one in December. I didn't use my network at all. Recruiter outreach has dried up significantly on LinkedIn, so I'm not sure this is still valid, even though it was <2 months ago.
• squintychino 4y ago
  Been working in Data Analytics for 10 years now. Been trying to look for another job myself. Much different than it was a few years ago. I had a response rate of about 60% and had multiple interviews each week. Now I would say my response rate is about 10% at the moment.
• Luppo 4y ago
  I'm from Italy, and here usually things happen few months after US. And, btw, it is much harder to fire due to bureaucratic stuff. Honestly, I don't see anything changed that much here. I got hired during this downtrend from an US-based company and, although some slightly more pessimistic speeches from CEO, everything seems just fine. Hires have been slowed down, but not really freezed. As other mentioned, it seems harder for people who just graduated to enter their first job. But actually, the companies that were used to hire young people (e.g. my first company, 'cause they like cheap workforce, or many consultancies since they just always need fresh workers), are continuing to get them. Their trick is just to pay the same salaries as before: inflation-free! I'd be curious to know how self-employed workers are doing instead. From one side, the risk should be higher for them, on the other side they should be preferred from companies to compensate for hiring freeze while still pushing on projects, right? I'm seriously thinking about making the switch, as this industry downturn has also brought a new sense of awareness in workers, and thus in me too...
• BWStearns 4y ago
  I started looking this week. Getting called back at least but haven't even started the leetcode boogey portion of the evening yet so no idea how actively they're actually hiring.
  • bosch_mind 4y ago
    Where are you leaving from? Wishing you the best
    • BWStearns 4y ago
      Somewhat ironically, from Hired. Thanks for the good vibes.
  • coffeebeqn 4y ago
    I started looking since our annual bonus was canceled a few days before we were to get it and company leadership is acting gloomy. I’ve heard back from 1/4 messages, having a screen Monday. Seems like some positions are so swamped with applications that they won’t ever get to yours.
• the_only_law 4y ago
  Not a single interview so far since a November (albeit I paused looking around the holidays figuring it was out less but didn’t get started again till a bit into January. Going to attempt to pay for a resume rewrite and see if it helps any.
  • gaws 4y ago
    Are you in the USA?
  • shyn3 4y ago
    Feed your resume into chat gpt3. Make your resume focus on numbers. Reach out to recruiters and ask for help. Try informal interviews with a corporation you like. If you have money, find a career coach with a big network.
  • gruffin 4y ago
    I've done a lot of hiring. Happy to give thoughts on your resume if you want (for free).
    • shyn3 4y ago
      You may need to post contact info in your profile. Your email doesn't display by default.
    • yCombLinks 4y ago
      I would love to hear your thoughts on mine, if you're open
• giraffe_lady 4y ago
  Not a single interview since mid november. edit: this is rapidly becoming an interview about my job search and I don't really have the energy for it. I've answered the questions I feel like answering and I'm good for now.
  • irrational 4y ago
    Where are you looking? How many years experience do you have? What types of positions are you looking for?
    • giraffe_lady 4y ago
      Remote US, 9 years experience, backend IC.
      • TheBozzCL 4y ago
        I wonder if the remote work could be part of it. I have the impression many companies have grown weary of remote work since the pandemic. That being said, I have a similar profile to you and I've been getting nearly no messages from recruiters even if I'm open to on-site work. The market's just difficult right now, keep looking!
      • pranit10 4y ago
        Best of luck I hope you find a new opportunity soon.
      • abledon 4y ago
        esoteric programming language? Java seems to have lots of positions
  • Icathian 4y ago
    Would you mind ballparking how many applications you've put out, and to what kinds of companies? That's super concerning to hear.
  • luxurytent 4y ago
• michpoch 4y ago
  If you’re posting please include the location as well.
• kypro 4y ago
  I recently got laid off in the UK and it was really hard to find something decent. There's jobs out there, but most aren't all that great and the interviews were much harder to come by. I was ghosted by recruiters countless times after being told I would be put forward for certain roles which has never happened to me before...
  • ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
    I had the same thing happen. It was quite jarring, for me, as I had been quite sought-after, before (Which was why I had the job I had, at a marquee corporation). Turns out out, it was because of my age. Lot of these laid off folks, are probably gonna encounter the same thing.
    • danesparza 4y ago
      it was because of my age. What do you mean? Are you young and they were interested? Or a senior level developer who was older and they were interested?
      • ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
        No. I'm old (I'm now 60. I was 55, when I was looking). The ageism in tech is pervasive. People seldom even bother hiding it; even though it's just as illegal as sexism or racism.
        • Lio 4y ago
          I've heard of plenty of companies publishing gender and ethnicity breakdowns of employees. I've never heard of anyone doing that for age of employees sadly.
          • ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
            You just have to look at one of those "company pictures," taken at offsites, or whatever. Lots of smiling young faces. Maybe one or two gray heads, and you often find out they are Principals, in one way or another. One of the dirty little secrets of tech ageism, is the ones doing it, are often older folks, themselves. IBM has been caught doing it, and the impetus came from their (quite gray) C-Suite.
• biosed 4y ago
  [Ireland] In process of getting laid off, 2 interviews. Applied for about 30 roles.
• _tardigrade 4y ago
  laid off in November. Applied to ~80companies. got 1 job offer but they lowballed me
• whstl 4y ago
  Germany. I wasn't exactly laid off, just left in a bad time. Zero applications, just recruiters reaching out, I started 8 processes, 4 are still ongoing, on 2 I got ghosted, but got 2 offers so far which I gotta answer till next week. EDIT: I got 18 years of experience, web full stack (react/vue/golang/rails/C#/haskell) + devops, if that matters.
  • layer8 4y ago
    What’s the salary on the offers you have, and in which region of Germany is that? Just curious.
    • whstl 4y ago
      Berlin. 140k and 150k but I'm still shopping.
      • layer8 4y ago
        Thanks! Are those IC or project/team lead positions?
        • whstl 4y ago
          Team Lead!
          • Yoric 4y ago
            Do they make difference between "tech lead" and "team lead"? Asking for a friend :)
            • whstl 4y ago
              Yes! Team Lead has a management component to it. You often handle 1-on-1s, promotions, conflicts resolution, lead hiring processes, act a middleman to other parts of the company, but you still code (unlike a "pure" manager). Tech lead is more of a tech-only role, and there's often a non-coding manager present as well. All IME of course.
• AllegedlyJason 4y ago
  No, and there are far more disingenuous engagements from recruiters and startup founders. It seems like a perceived 'glut of senior talent' is driving this behavior, at least that is my conclusion.
  • spuz 4y ago
    What kind of disingenuous behaviour have you experienced?
    • wyclif 4y ago
      Best example I can think of is recruiting for non-existent roles.
• bugbuddy 4y ago
  I was a senior dev at a big tech and got laid off in November. I have applied to hundreds of places. Not a lot of responses. I have been doing interview preps the whole time. It has been very demoralizing and I am thinking of switching careers to something else. I have been considering skilled trades. I like carpentry in particular.
  • candiddevmike 4y ago
    Did you give leetcode tests during interviews while you were working at big tech?
    • Bilal_io 4y ago
      I see where this is going...
    • Our_Benefactors 4y ago
      Is the implication “if you did, and you’re having problems passing those tests now, that’s karmic retribution”? If so, please keep in mind that interviewers at big tech generally have to follow the HR script for interviewing. I have very little leeway as an interviewer in how to conduct the interview. I can select from a narrow group of problems, and I ask each candidate a couple of “soft skills” questions to gauge their level of experience, but the bulk of the interview still relies on their performance on the technical assessment.
  • mikeg8 4y ago
    As someone with more carpentry experience (paid) than dev experience, but strong interests in both worlds, I’m curious how you would reconcile taking an approximate 50% reduction in comp. Don’t know the numbers for your area but knowing Bay Area salaries, senior devs make 2-2.5x journeyman carpenters.
    • gtirloni 4y ago
      I did that to work for a non-profit in a field I was a bit interested in. It's okay in the beginning but I soon started to regret the huge paycut. Wouldn't recommend.
• josefrichter 4y ago
  I’m a product designer. Contract expired, and it seems really hard to find another. LinkedIn shows me most of the roles have 150-250 applicants… Getting silent treatment even for roles where I seem to be 100% perfect match to their requirements, even overqualified :-) Not trying to brag, but realistically I’d estimate my work & experience puts me among top 10% of product designers. But the market seems to be tougher than ever before. Lots of designers better than me in the market.
• Volundr 4y ago
  US, looking for remote. 15+ years experience been looking since early January, and I still don't feel like I have traction. Worst job market for engineers I've seen in a long time. I have hope it'll improve in March when budgets are finalized, but at the same time I'm preparing for it to be a long one. First unemployment in my career, up until now I had employers coming to me.
  • shmatt 4y ago
    I suspect the remote aspect is the biggest thing slowing you down. I go in once a month, which is practically a remote job, but those who moved during the pandemic and wouldn't fly in and take a hotel on their expense once a month had to leave There are 1000 different flavors of mixed home-office working right now, but not that much fully remote
    • iancmceachern 4y ago
      I agree. Having a hard remote only rule changes your opportunities. The key is being flexible.
    • kokanee 4y ago
      True. I work remotely in a different state from my company's HQ, but I travel to the office for about a week once a quarter. I actually feel safer with this arrangement than if my HQ were local, because everyone around me is slowly getting forced back into the office. First on an as-needed basis, then one mandatory day per week, then three days a week. Most big companies will be back to five mandatory days a week soon enough, it seems.
    • Volundr 4y ago
      I'm not so sure, at least I know plenty of people in tech hubs that are in a similar position. Certainly anything that reduces the number of jobs you can accept will limit your opportunities, but I'm not sure being open to in-office would immediately solve the problem. In the end it doesn't matter. Due to family concerns relocation is not an option, and anything local would be a huge pay cut. I'll go that route if I reach the point where I need to, but I'm holding off for now.
• iLoveOncall 4y ago
  Remember that there are many reasons why someone would not get hired despite having top work experience. I have seen people out of FAANGs with 10+ years of experience sharing their CV after being laid off and some will struggle to get any interview, let alone get a good job, just because the format of said CV was absolutely awful. If you aren't getting interviews, it's your CV that is the problem.
  • jonnycoder 4y ago
    Can you give some examples of bad format?
    • bobleeswagger 4y ago
      Adding detail seems like a good idea, a CV is really communicating how well you can boil off the meaningless details and manage upwards. It's more sales than we are taught or intuitively realize. You are selling your time.
    • aviditas 4y ago
      9/10 resumes I have been seeing are the default auto generated ones from LinkedIn. Sometimes those look alright but the rest are 5+ page monstrosities.
    • wyclif 4y ago
      Not a resume expert, but one thing that I think is bad are the multiple page resumes. You should try as hard as you can to make it fit on one page. It's so much easier to get recruiters to read a one page resume.
  • conductr 4y ago
    I wouldn’t call them for interview because I perceive them as out of my budget. Could be true or false depending on the individual but I think it’s also knowing if your Top experience also unintentionally conveys something else that’s turning people away. This is how bubbles pop and it’s likely the fallout will be reduced comp for many of you folks when you land somewhere.
• ericmcer 4y ago
  I took 8 months off voluntarily, just started applying again last week (full stack dev): 10 applications, 2 rejections, 1 initial phone screen Anecdotally I see very few junior/low level positions open, most jobs seem to be senior+. Salary ranges are all a bit higher than I remember them being 3 years ago. I am still a long way from being scared enough to take something I don't like or that doesn't pay well, still optimistic things will swing back eventually.
  • elif 4y ago
    i'm curious, from what you can tell, has anyone cared about your voluntary break or is it all the same to them? i quit/retired about 4 years ago and often wonder if i applied places how much it would be held against me wanting to have control over my life like that.
    • ericmcer 4y ago
      4 years is a long time, so you should have some explanation, but there is really only one way to find out! No one has asked about why I took 8 months off yet.
    • manfre 4y ago
      An 8 month gap is not a big negative as long as the candidate can say something sensible as to why. It's not a long enough time for knowledge to go stale. With a 4 year gap, you would have a much harder time getting interviews.
      • elif 4y ago
        Thanks that's what I figured. Who would hire an employee they can't fully own.
• psim1 4y ago
  Weirdly, a senior dev from my company was recruited by another company and will be changing jobs in a couple weeks. And to be clear, he is not a unicorn type. He's a good senior developer in a common language. It's hard for me to understand recruiters "fishing in the neighbor's pond" while there are plenty of unemployed, qualified senior devs out there right now.
  • otikik 4y ago
    If the neighbor is your competitor, it makes a lot of sense to fish in their pond.
  • NegativeK 4y ago
    I've heard from a few sources that there's a disgusting stigma of "if you were laid off, there must be a reason."
    • disgruntledphd2 4y ago
      Yeah, I worried about this, which is why I didn't tell anyone I was interviewing with that I'd been laid-off. Laid off in August, new job by end of September. That being said, it was much tougher than other times, and I have 10+ years experience in data science (which most candidates in this field won't have). I also interview well, which helped a lot.
    • deleted 4y ago
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    • bmelton 4y ago
      I've always assumed this was the stigma, so I've always avoided mentioning it, but during the much more competitive market in 2020-2021, it seemed like big tech types were the only ones wise enough to look past that stigma and appreciate that often, cuts are to business units, not people. My wife was part of a big (31%) layoff at an AI Healthcare company during the earliest round of layoffs, and she had literally hundreds of requests to interview within the first two days of being laid off. This round of layoffs seems different. If big tech isn't hiring, and they're the only ones wise enough to see through the stigma, that is a possible explanation for why.
• anon8056 4y ago
  Laid off from a US remote backend/data role in a large, FAANG-adjacent tech company in early January. I have always had a high callback rate with 20+ years of experience and a CS degree from a tier 1 university. This time, my only callbacks were through internal referrals from my network or introductions made through recruiters. I ended up with two offers by the end of January, one from a growing startup and the other from a mid-market company with a conservative business model. Given the slowdown in the market, I'm thankful to have found something so quickly. My take is that this is not nearly as bad as the dotcom crash in the early 2000s, but the red hot tech market of 2021 where companies were hiring as fast as they could with incredible comp packages is gone. There are still a good number of roles out there, but companies are being more careful in their hiring and they are not trying to compete with (the no longer hiring) FAANGs when it comes to compensation.
  • gaws 4y ago
    > I ended up with two offers by the end of January, one from a growing startup and the other from a mid-market company with a conservative business model. Given the slowdown in the market, I'm thankful to have found something so quickly. Which one offer did you take?
    • anon8056 4y ago
      Call me crazy, but I went with the startup. It's been a while since I felt like my work had any real impact on the business and I thought it could at this startup, so I'm taking the risk.
      • renewiltord 4y ago
        Great choice, mate! Always glad to see HN back to its roots of agency and adventure. Good luck!
  • titanomachy 4y ago
    Similar situation, although I’ve been focusing on other things since I don’t desperately need a job yet. I think my interview skills are fine but I’ve had a hard time getting interviews. I’ve been able to mostly enjoy the time off but there have been periods of stress as well. It’s helpful to read stories like yours and feel less isolated. Good luck.
• echelon 4y ago
  Firstly, I'm really sorry to everyone who has been laid off. It's such an awful experience, and I'm sorry you're going through it. You're not alone, and everyone is cheering for you! Take care of yourself. You'll get through this. The macro environment looks to be improving, and companies are mostly doing this to put downward pressures on salaries or because they overzealously hired during the pandemic. There are lots of things being built right now that need to be scaled. I hope this doesn't come off tonally bad - I'm able to contract to hire a few (3-5) folks. I'm building an at-home Hollywood studio, and I'm looking for remote engineers with the following skills: - Rust/Actix for backend, web services (and a real time desktop app we've yet to launch). This is my #1 need. - Unreal Engine engineers, preferably with animation and C++ experience. This will help us tremendously. Longer term we'd like to explore Godot, but that's less immediate - more Q3/4. - ML, especially with generative media experience. We've got a good sized team, but we're always looking to expand it. Experience with audio, images, LLMs/NLP, video a plus. I'm financing this myself, and we have considerable runway financed from my last exit. There will be equity and full time offers extended if you're interested in sticking with us.
  • tayo42 4y ago
    Do you have contact info?
    • echelon 4y ago
      In my profile, sorry!
• Jommi 4y ago
  We're hiring at our company. We've had a lot of people come through from the recent waves of layoffs, and usually so far there has been a mix of too high expectations, remote work mismatches as well as just lots of people not making the bar (we are a small company). Still on the lookout for senior rust engineers who want to work at a company that's remote-first with a minimal-meetings culture. You can message me on telegram @jommi for info
  • brundolf 4y ago
    Do you have another contact channel for those of us without telegram?
    • todd3834 4y ago
      Isn’t telegram free? If you’re interested why not just sign up? This isn’t a good first impression when you’re trying to get hired.
    • Jommi 4y ago
      you can email me at jommi@tuta.io
  • coldpie 4y ago
    In general, I'm curious if people replying to this thread have had success with applying to HN "Who's Hiring?" listings. At my previous job, at a small company (~50 total employees), posting in those threads was by far our best recruiting tool. While we filtered out a lot of uninspiring resumes, we also responded quickly to people who seemed like a reasonable match. If I were looking, after exhausting personal contacts from previous employment, that's where I would head next.
    • lordnacho 4y ago
      This is one of the great secrets of the internet. I've been on both sides of using HN to find work. It's just sooo good.
    • itronitron 4y ago
• chunk_waffle 4y ago
  With all the copy-cat layoffs going on, I wonder how many people have been laid off, found a new job only to be laid off _again_!
  • trashtestcrash 4y ago
    we had a layoff in my company announced today (UK based), it will be weeks before I know if I'm impacted If I decided to jump ship now and join a financial company in which I can guarantee quick offer due to networking I feel I'm risking exactly that. It feels like a wave, if you jump to another industry you may risk to catch the wave when it comes. Specifically financial seems to just start now?
  • squegles 4y ago
    I have heard of a company in the Bay that did this! Reliable Robotics had people start on a Monday only to lay them off later that week.
    • Bilal_io 4y ago
      That's why I think the hiring freeze that took place at FAANG is the right approach. Companies should not play with people, and it reflects poorly on the decision makers.
    • whstl 4y ago
      Seems like they wanted to participate in the copycat layoffs but didn't have enough staff they could let go (sorry for the joke in bad taste). But seriously now: this only goes to show how those layoffs are about companies fucking up, rather than about people. Laying off people who just got hired is amateur hour.
• badstreff 4y ago
  Laid off Jan 18th from Microsoft, not really the unicorn type I would say but well above average in my field (imo) Applied to a couple positions ~5-6 and got a couple automated rejections, no interviews or initial calls through this process. I think not having a degree makes it difficult to get past the initial screening About 2-3 recruiter messages per day on linkedin. I responded to around 10 or so, of which 7 I had initial interviews with the company after my resume was passed up. Had 2 rejections and 3 offers, only 1 of which was under my current salary. I interviewed for mostly 100% remote, I think only 1 company of the ones I was looking at required 2-3 days in office
• rtp4me 4y ago
  Serious question for the folks who are not getting many callbacks. Are you looking for remote-only work, or are you looking at both remote and on-site opportunities?
  • VLM 4y ago
    My experience trying to set up my next C2C contract is remote is utterly dead and every posting has like 500 to 1500 applicants, whereas the locals are mostly hybrid (like you will attend weekly team meetings live in person) and locals are seeking me out. I have seen weird verbiage for remote work at big companies where they post a senior level job description with an amazing shopping list of requirements and nice-to-haves but its a "junior developer" job title and pay. Which is an interesting way to handle wage deflation. Sometimes the desired shopping list of technologies is so immense I can't imagine what the role would be doing day to day, the entire technology stack at a small startup is possible but the entire technology stack at a huge multinational is, well, very huge! As such I've pretty much stopped trying for remote. Maybe the market will be better later.
    • solarmist 4y ago
      I hear this meme all the time, but all the companies I look at only want Sr Engineers and have no Jr/Mid roles posted at all.
  • wyclif 4y ago
    My situation is kind of different. DevOps guy with 10+ years of experience. I've been fully remote for the past seven years, but the past five years I haven't had any choice but to be fully remote because I am staying with my family in SE Asia. Since I'm not in a position to move at the moment, I can only take remote roles.
• 40acres 4y ago
  I was laid off in November. I've applied to dozens, probably hundreds of jobs. I've had two interviews (one bigtechco) and a YC startup. Both did not work out as they went with more senior candidates. I decided to take a different approach and tailor my resume to each job and narrow the types of jobs I applied too. This has led to an increase in recruiter calls and I'm setting up interviews now. However it does seem there is still a lot of flux, especially with larger companies who are still trying to allocate headcount. I've had calls with Google that were basically like: "we're interested, but we don't know HC yet, let's circle back in 3 weeks".
  • sublinear 4y ago
    > we don't know HC yet It's always been like this. Most businesses have permanently listed "openings" that don't necessarily mean they're hiring.
    • monkey26 4y ago
      I've asked if this practice is OK or normal in the past. People really don't like it, and I think we're trending away from it.
    • deleted 4y ago
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    • malacola 4y ago
      Gotten fooled by this at least twice now, beware - companies with these “roles” will take you through their entire 5 week interview funnel and drop you at the very last stage if you’re not 10x enough to be worth pulling head count out of thin air. What a waste of time. Always try and find out if the role they’re hiring for is an actual role they have a vested interest in filling and not just a generic “statement of interest”.
• malkosta 4y ago
  If you are a Senior Backend Engineer interested in work with Elixir, please apply here, we also have many other open roles: https://boards.greenhouse.io/fireworkcareers https://boards.greenhouse.io/fireworkcareers
• kentosi 4y ago
  New York here. Been just over 2 weeks since getting laid off. I'm getting calls from recruiters and have interviews lined up, but it's been tough.
  • mynameishere 4y ago
    That doesn't sound tough.
    • altgeek 4y ago
      Agreed. "Tough" was finding a tech job after '00 dot-com bust or the '08-09 financial crisis.
      • coffeebeqn 4y ago
        ‘09 sucked. I had to go from a decently paid jr dev to doing crap few months contracts for tiny (but demanding) local companies for over a year until I found a good company to escape to
• sph 4y ago
  Not laid off but I've just ended a year long sabbatical. Looking for work now is a terrible experience. A lot of ghosting, recruiters absolutely useless, agencies not looking for new talent. I have done two dozen interviews, twice as many resumes sent to interested recruiters, and only one offer, which I was not very excited about and declined. I'm focusing on my SaaS project, and trying to market myself outside the box instead of the old resume as my 16 years long career doesn't seem to impress anyone. Sorry, I will not elaborate further as you're all my competition here.
• bergie 4y ago
  Not so far. There are lots of positions open, but not sure how many of those are actually being hired for.
• konraditurbe 4y ago
  Laid off in December. Applies to ~10 companies, and about 10 other companies reached out. 9 rejections, 2 in advanced stages, and 9 haven't heard back from them. I got my first fulltime job ever in 2019, got laid off in 2021, and had no issue getting interviews and finally landing another job. In 2021 the process was surprisingly easy, fast and without much input from my end. I never really did leetcode exercises, so it was quite a shock to find so many companies do them.
• jaxomlotus 4y ago
  Here's the flip side: I was hiring (at a stealth vc-funded startup). I reached out to every designer and coder laid off from Twitter and Amazon (one of my investors sent me a spreadsheet that those laid off folks added their contact info to). I didn't receive a single interested response to my reach outs. Now granted, I'm sure they were bombarded with lots of startup offers and being picky what company/stage they were responding to, or were still in grief mode and not ready to start looking, or maybe (probably!) my reach-out finesse was lacking. But I'm just pointing out that their are definitely companies like mine who are hiring and it's not all doom and gloom for laid off folks. I ended up hiring via ads on LinkedIn and job posts on eng message boards. Being real for a minute: There is definitely a perspective among hiring companies that regular lay offs are sometimes packaged alongside bottom performers, but I think that is something they would just do diligence on during an interview process.
  • biinui 4y ago
    May I know what these eng message boards are? :D
  • kirso 4y ago
    How was your experience with job boards compared to LinkedIn? Was it effective?
  • itstyebaby 4y ago
    Is there anywhere I can get more information or how may I contact you for a job position if you are still hiring.
  • exitb 4y ago
    I just want to point out that it’s quite horrible that this sort of lists are floating around. EDIT: As other commenters are pointing out, this appears to be a list of voluntarily added people. In such case the lack of replies is indeed puzzling.
    • lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
      > that those laid off folks added their contact info to Hopefully that's actually true but, regardless, it seems to be what's believed. If it is true, it's reasonable to assume they knew what the list would be.
• Ncarpentieri4 4y ago
  I was laid off in november, in vc. Looking for PM/Ops roles. Applied to a ton of stuff where I was a great fit, no answer or immediate rejection lol. I'm 8 years out of school and am not applying for roles that are unrealistic. I think the entire hiring/search process is so broken. Different applications, formats. Don't get me started on having to fill out sections in a form that are just resume sections (work experience, schools etc.). Going across big VC firm portfolio openings also super fragmented. It's opened my eyes to how awful the process of hiring is from both sides. Doing consulting/contract work, advisory, and side projects as I hang on cofounder matching and apply to jobs on workatastartup, wellfound, and linkedin. Pretty dismal job search process.
  • clavalle 4y ago
    >"Don't get me started on having to fill out sections in a form that are just resume sections" I haven't been laid off but I've been dipping my toe in the past few months because I'm a bit bored in my current role. The process is much more fiddly than it needs to be. When I run into those 'fill this out again for our system' forms, often times it's after a long day and I will just save it to come back to it later...and I never do. I wonder how much talent mobility there'd be if someone really solved the issues of repetative job search data entry and just proving to strangers that you can excel in a role without running through an obstacle course that may or may not represent the actual job.
    • Ncarpentieri4 4y ago
      I bet quantifying the amount of good candidates that walk away because of broken processes would be eye opening enough lol. But agree - the amount of times I keep tabs open for roles I'm genuinely interested in or excited about, and then just bail a few days later when I have to fill things out or cut down a cover letter to a specific character count. Brutal. Two sided marketplace recruiting company is unfortunately entering such a crowded market. The other thing is so many different roles and industries have nuanced ways of hiring. Finance vs tech/startups is wildly different.
    • beckingz 4y ago
• vlod 4y ago
  I'm doing consultancy (mainly becz I haven't found a startup that I'm interested in joining) and I'm find the hourly rates (in the US) are really low (below FTE). Not sure if it's because of all these layoffs or just yearly budgets haven't been done yet. (I'm generally looking for react/nodejs/rest/graphql type 1099 roles).
• davidw 4y ago
  I'm not looking right now (fingers crossed!) but still get recruiters sending me stuff. Not as many as in the past, but they're still out there.
• ulizzle 4y ago
  I just got back into the market after taking a hiatus to write a novel (finished it, deleted it afterward cus I'm not proud of it) and work on my music,(more success but I'm not good enough to think I can make a career out of it). There's a definite hiring slowdown due to current market circumstances and the fact that "Senior" really doesn't mean what it used to, so there's a lot more competition for those roles now. I'm guessing it will be less bad 2nd quarter, but prolly not back to, erm, "normal".
  • bhouston 4y ago
    Should release the novel anyhow.
    • solarmist 4y ago
      Seriously, it might just feel like a failure because the organization or editing is off and another set of eyes could point it out.
    • beckingz 4y ago
      I strongly recommend releasing it even if you don't think it's good. I wrote a book, and I don't think it's especially good, but I've gotten a lot of respect for having published it because people think it's hard.
  • Yoric 4y ago
    > There's a definite hiring slowdown due to current market circumstances and the fact that "Senior" really doesn't mean what it used to, so there's a lot more competition for those roles now. What do you mean by "Senior" changing meaning?
    • czbond 4y ago
      Meaning title inflation. Senior used to mean 5-8 years of experience. Principal or Staff 10-20. So now a lot of people that have experience sort into the bucket of Senior.
• nsenifty 4y ago
  I was a Staff-level engineer that a BigCo@Bay area laid off in November. My network immediately went into overdrive connecting me with great opportunities, which I am VERY thankful for. Got in pipeline for 7 companies, interviewed for 4 roles, got 3 offers (two startups and one public company), declined the other 3 interviews and decided to take the public company offer.
• webosdude 4y ago
  I’m based in SF Bay Area and I was laid off from my Engineering Management position in October. I had MAANG offer at the time which took about 2-3 months when the process started in July. But as they started reviewing budgets it was cancelled even though Recruiter verbally agreed on the number. Then I interviewed with several companies in Oct-Dec. One startup was willing to proceed with VP/Director level offer but the President said he needs to wait until January to get it approved from the board. But they never got back to me. The interviews dried up since mid-Dec and I am still looking. I’m also on H1B so that makes it more challenging.
  • yieldcrv 4y ago
    > I’m also on H1B so that makes it more challenging. How are you still here? I thought you had 30 days to leave, abandoning all of your properties indefinitely.
    • webosdude 4y ago
      It’s 60-days from your last pay check. I had some severance which extends that period.
• jokethrowaway 4y ago
  A few senior friends got booted and are starting to be panic after a few months of doing nothing It reminds me of 2008. I switched during the covid boom expecting the obvious crash after governments run out of excuses
• shaftway 4y ago
  Senior SWE, 20+ years of experience, based in the bay area, laid off from Meta in November. I reached out to my network and had a couple applications in same-day. One of those panned out and I just started this week. I also did a bunch of cold job applications, but didn't get a callback from any of them. The whole process led to a ton of anxiety and was really nerve-wracking, especially reading about layoffs from other tech firms in the same time period. I kept worrying that my new company was going to hit layoffs and that my offer would be rescinded, especially when the recruiter told me they were reducing hiring. Having it take about 3 months just drug that anxiety out. I still have a bit of anxiety about getting laid off, but no more than I'd have anywhere else.
  • metadaemon 4y ago
    Man, there's definitely something broken with the cold application process. I'd estimate my success rate of getting an interview from a cold application is something like 1-5%. I almost always resort to referrals or getting lucky networking with recruiters.
    • jjav 4y ago
      > Man, there's definitely something broken with the cold application process. A couple years ago I did an experiment and sent out 25 applications through linkedin for job postings I was very qualified for. Never heard a peep back from any of them. Good thing I wasn't actively looking! Based on that I'm fairly convinced none of those ever went anywhere or were seen by anyone.
    • shaftway 4y ago
      I think it's a lot of luck and being one of the first people to apply. Once the flood comes in then people start filtering on metrics that don't really matter. "Oh, you only have 10 years of Java? This candidate over here has 11." I also think there's a weird game going on with remote roles. On my new team everyone is "remote", but of the 10 people 3 are in the bay area and the other 7 are in 6 different cities, but each city has an office. The company has ~8 offices in North America, so the statistics are bothering. This matches with my circle of friends' experience; the only callbacks people get for remote roles are ones where they're already in the same city. I suspect "remote" really means "remote, but in a city that we have a presence in, just in case we decide to force you to come into an office."
• schizo89 4y ago
  So all this workforce is set to a mission to colonize mars or what?
• CalRobert 4y ago
  If I can add to the original question - anyone starting their own business since getting laid off?
  • maerF0x0 4y ago
    This is a good Q and you should make your own ASK HN Reply me the post and I'll upvote it
• sosodev 4y ago
  I was laid off in early December. I applied to a couple hundred positions, interviewed with around 10%, and received two offers at the beginning of this month. The market is pretty rough. I had a lot of good interviews fizzle out into rejections after the final round. I assume this is because I was competing with several other recently laid off engineers. My new salary is 33% less than my previous and I’m getting much less equity. It sucks but I’m happy to be employed.
  • ryandrake 4y ago
    I think the rough 100:10:1 ratio was the standard for a long time. That certainly describes my job hunting experience prior to say 2012. The whole 5:4:3 ratio was an aberration during our recent, unprecedented bull market.
  • blindhippo 4y ago
    Will be interesting to see what happens when the market starts lifting again and all these companies who are scoring people at a discount suddenly are struggling to keep them. 33% drop is significant in an economy that is squeezing the rank and file with higher interest rates. (this is all presuming the profession isn't in the process of downgrading to a trade level as a result of constant pressure to remove humans from high value work)
  • renewiltord 4y ago
    In practice, that 33% salary drop is bumped up by the fact that you're employed while receiving severance, right? Or is that not how it is structured? (I've never laid off anyone or been laid off)
    • sosodev 4y ago
      My severance was only 2 months of normal pay. So it’s not contributing anything at this point.
• dorfsmay 4y ago
  I'm an independent contractor, I thought lay-offs would translate into lots of small contracts but it hasn't, in fact, my existing co tracts have dried off and not finding any new ones right now.
  • mancerayder 4y ago
    May I ask which location you're in?
    • dorfsmay 4y ago
      I am in Canada,I have worked remotely both for Canada and US based companies as well as in-office in Calgary over the last 15 years.
• blueridge 4y ago
  I think these layoffs are particularly hard on "non-technical" people: marketing, customer service, customer success, professional services, implementations, people who have built a career in customer operations roles. My experience so far is that most companies who seem to be hiring for these types of roles aren't actually hiring. Some of the positions I saw last year in June are still listed on careers pages, some applications are met with an instant auto-decline (maybe gathering resumes?), some companies have swapped hiring managers mid-interview process, others seem to burn through one idiot recruiter after the next. I don't think most companies know what they need when they hire for "customer experience" or "customer success", so roles and job descriptions are poorly defined and the business need is unclear, but that's a discussion for another day. The current market doesn't have a lot of opportunities for the post-sales customer facing crowd. I've toyed with the idea of a highly curated job board that is specifically for this group.
• jvanderbot 4y ago
  Engineering manager, 10 years experience robotics I had multiple concurrent interview tracks start pretty quickly, and ended up with 5 competing offers. I was lucky to be able to tolerate that many interviews, and it worked out for me. Though I think I disappointed some employers by being honest about how many I had going concurrently. I moved back to hands-on work as well, which has been really nice.
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• shams93 4y ago
  No
• distortionfield 4y ago
  Yeah, i just signed a contract for a senior engineering role, starting at the end of the month. It wasn't hard for me to find, either. Competitive pay and benefits.
  • Yoric 4y ago
    Out of curiosity, how did you get there? Personal network? Headhunter? etc.
    • distortionfield 4y ago
      Personal network.
• phantom784 4y ago
  Not laid off, but I have noticed that the volume of emails I get from recruiters dried up in December and January.
• giantg2 4y ago
  I feel like such a loser with so many people having competing offers. I've never had competing offers. Like people getting to choose their own destiny and I'm just taking whatever shit I'm lucky enough to get.
  • Gibbon1 4y ago
    Some people are really good at bullshitting their way into jobs.
    • giantg2 4y ago
      I'm just bad at everything and don't have any skills.
      • pcthrowaway 4y ago
        I mean.. that sounds like a legitimate reason to not extend you an offer. But it's good that you know this about yourself and can hopefully formulate an actionable path to improvement!
        • giantg2 4y ago
          I'm just going to coast/struggle at my current job.
          • Gibbon1 4y ago
            I've found knowing your limits and avoiding getting over your head is a very valuable skill to have. Cause if you've worked with someone like that you'll see how bad not having that is. Tip: There is always someone better at X than you are.
          • wyclif 4y ago
            You might not like this answer, but I was once in the place you are now. The only thing that will change the situation for the better is to invest in yourself and learn new skills. The problem is motivation and time. I know how discouraging it is to come home exhausted from the job you hate, eat a quick dinner, and hit the O'Reilly and Addison-Wesley books to learn that new programming language. But eventually it will pay off.
• dream-cast 4y ago
  Personally I find it amusing watching tech workers who were resting and vesting from the 2016 to 2022 period find out how broken the hiring system is. Here's a tip, it always was. I struggled to find a job for years and the only advice people in tech were willing to give is that I should have gone to Standford (Washington State University for life) or I should just try harder. Eventually I got a job in a call center and worked myself up the ladder into an amazing IT career. I hope you all suffer like I had to suffer.
  • rconti 4y ago
    Constructing strawperson lazy entitled tech workers in order to feel justified when you lash out against them is not super healthy.
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  • lbrito 4y ago
    >I hope you all suffer like I had to suffer. I'm sorry for the ill-minded advice you got, but not everyone in tech is an asshole. By definition a very small minority has Ivy-league, trust fund-brat backgrounds. There are people from all walks of life, many like yours, and not few that would think _you_ are spoiled and entitled - I've seen developers from Gaza posting on HN, for instance. Give that a thought before wishing suffering for all.
    • gendv 4y ago
      > but not everyone in tech is an asshole. But the evidence says otherwise. Broken hiring, big egos, bad software. This field is a mess and the people made it like this.
    • wyclif 4y ago
      I formerly worked for a FAANG, but I come from quite humble circumstances: I grew up on a small farm in Pennsylvania. Also, I've been in this industry for years but I've never "vested and rested." The vast majority of people in tech are working for a salary and benefits.
• nfw2 4y ago
  I was laid off in June. This coincided with my mom being diagnosed with cancer, and because I had a fair amount of saving, I took some time to support family and work on some personal projects. I started looking again at the start of this year, and it's been rough, at least compared to my last job search where I had multiple offers in under two weeks. I've submitted ~50 applications so far, most with a non-generic cover letter. Most haven't responded, several declined to interview, and just one scheduled an interview. Using my referral network hasn't been that effective. Most of my former colleagues are working at large companies that either aren't hiring or are in midst of layoffs themself. I was able to get 4 references at hiring companies through my network, but of those, 3 haven't responded and 1 declined to interview. I have had a decent amount of interviews through 3rd-party recruiting agencies. I've gotten to final interview stages with a few companies, but no offers. Most of these places were very early seed-stage companies. I'm actively interviewing with a handful now. When companies decline to even interview, it's discouraging and stressful for sure. It's easy for imposter syndrome to creep in. But overall, I'm still relatively optimistic that I will find something soon-ish. I can see how hiring companies must be inundated now, but it also seems a bit strange that nearly every company I connect with through a recruiter wants to interview, but my success rate submitting applications myself is basically 0%.
  • disgruntledphd2 4y ago
    You probably need to pack your CV with keywords to get past the automated filter.
  • sumtechguy 4y ago
    I had that same exp about 5 years ago. I have heard tailoring your resume for each one helps. The funny one was one that came back 2 years after I had another job and rejected me. I had to go dig up my notes and see what I had applied for! My internal network was the same as yours with lots of 'nothing here'. Most of my luck has been like you, with 3rd party recruiters. Unless I reach out to them directly. Then they suddenly have nothing. One of them just for fun I called them every week but 'we currently do not have anything' which I knew was rubbish and I would pull items off their own site and show them. But if they have something that tweaked their buzzword bingo they blow up your phone. Getting a recruiter who likes to hustle is the key. Only thing I regret for the 'time off' was not starting to look sooner. I figured it was a 1-2 month tops thing. Turned into 8 months of looking. What is really annoying is if you do not have a job they do not want you. But have a job and suddenly 2-3 calls a day. Hiring is broken in a very weird way. But nothing really clear how to fix it. Adding more fizz-buzz testing is not going to fix it.
• slackfan 4y ago
  Company I was with went through a very strange aquistion for the brand, with a layoff of all of the staff in November. Since I was leadership -- ended up working my network to land my entire technical team at a different company by mid-December, which worked out, so seven people hit the new year with fresh jobs. As for myself - had a few bites via my personal network but decided to strike out solo and build something from scratch for now, because I can afford to.
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• twobitshifter 4y ago
  It’s interesting to hear about the 100 job applications needed to land a spot, is hired.com or some other site like that worthwhile? Seems like there’s a huge duplication of effort. I’m more specialized and doubt I would even find 100 job openings to apply to!
  • Yoric 4y ago
    I've had exactly one hit on hired.com in ~3 weeks. Much better success with LinkedIn. That being said, I've just redesigned my hired.com profile, we'll see if that helps.
• angarg12 4y ago
  Can anyone share how compensation packages look like in these post-layoffs days?
• cartermatic 4y ago
  Senior Product Designer with 8 years of professional experience, 9 years of freelance experience. Got laid off Thanksgiving week and applied to about 35 jobs but did end up landing a new role that I started on the 30th of January. Took about a 10% base pay cut but there's also a 10% bonus that if eligible, will put me close to my previous role. 9 rounds total and took about a month but this included time off for the holidays. Funnily enough it was one of the first jobs I applied for.
• elamje 4y ago
  I'm helping place people at my friends Seed and Series A companies if anyone is interested. VC money is still there but pumping into Seed/Series A companies with more upside now rather than insane B, C, D companies that have no profitability in sight. email me at j{at}markovmanagement.com if interested :)
• millerm 4y ago
  My contract was just cut early at a large corp. So, this is awful. Second time I have lost a gig in the past 2 years. I can't take this biz anymore. About time to jump off a friggin' cliff.
  • beckingz 4y ago
    You've got this! Money can be exchanged for goods and services, and the demand for software services is still near an all time high and will tends towards increasing for a long time. As a seller of software services, don't take it personally.
  • wyclif 4y ago
    I agree with the other comment...don't take it too hard. All the old heads here have been through this a few times before. The dot-com bomb. Then 2008. It will all come back up in time. Software isn't going away.
• oldtimesnever 4y ago
  Laid off in Jan 3rd. Still doing interviews. Anyone else thinking that hiring has become more strict and companies with open roles are more "cautious"?
  • Yoric 4y ago
    I share this feeling. Two years ago, when I switched job, I got 3 offers after only 1-2 interviews in each of the companies (there were several "no"s, of course). This year, I have 4 promising leads, each of them having at least 4 interviews.
• volkadav 4y ago
  The startup I was at had a ~10% layoff mid last September that I and several other senior (i.e. expensive) folks were caught in. I started a new, equivalent job in mid-November. It probably would've been quicker but my family and I have some somewhat edge case circumstances in play at the moment that mean I needed a job that'd let me be remote outside of the US. Some of that time too was choosing between two pretty compelling offers, so. My deepest sympathies to anyone else facing this process right now. Even in a reasonably healthy (if not wildly overheated) hiring market, facing a layoff sucks. Best wishes to everyone out there.
• throwboatyface 4y ago
  I work at a company that did layoffs. I wasn't affected, but I happened to be looking for a new role anyways. I've had two positions get to the offer stage so far, fully remote. For mid-career devs there doesn't seem to be any shortage of work.
  • Yoric 4y ago
    In which country?
• webosdude 4y ago
  I think there should have been a poll for this question to quickly gauge. 1. When people were laid off? A. Before Q4 2022 B. Q4 2022 C. Q1 2023 E. My job is fine 2. Were you able to find a job? A. Yes B. No 3. How long did it take to find job? A. < 1 month B. 1-3 months C. 3-6 months D. > 6 months 4. How many offers did you get? A. 1 B. 2-3 C. 4+
• UncleOxidant 4y ago
  Sr. Software Dev with some hardware background. Laid off in early December. Started looking about a month ago. One phone interview so far with a startup that seemed a bit sketchy (didn't know where the funding was coming from) and in a very inconvenient timezone (I'd likely have to wake up at 3AM for meetings). Many recruiter pings/week, but mostly not great fits (they glom onto a keyword that doesn't mean what they think it does) and often it's easy to tell that several emails from different recruiters are for the same exact job. Hardware verification and FPGA seems to be in great demand, but it's been too many years since I worked in that space so I don't feel like my experience would still be relevant for those. Talked to a recruiter today who said things are starting to slow down on his end - not getting as many jobs to recruit for. This is to be expected, I think. So far it's pretty easy to make my 5 contacts/week as required by the unemployment dept.
  • Yoric 4y ago
    > So far it's pretty easy to make my 5 contacts/week as required by the unemployment dept. Is that standard?
• bhaney 4y ago
  For comparison, same thread topic from two and a half months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33755531 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33755531
• rajeshp1986 4y ago
  I was hiring for a startup 2 weeks ago but was laid off last week and looking for new jobs. Haven't received any response yet.
• r3trohack3r 4y ago
  Not part of the “layoff” group, I left Netflix after burning out. But I do consulting for platform engineering and site reliability engineering. I haven’t had problems paying the bills over the past ~year.
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• ngvrnd 4y ago
  Laid off 10 January, had a few interviews at startups but no offers yet. Seems like there are positions in the robotics space.
• linkjuice4all 4y ago
  I think remote work has definitely changed the game (not in a bad way). I was working remotely at a YC start up since the start of the pandemic and they never really figured out their business since I've been there. I've been looking around for new work and my job search has changed drastically from pre-pandemic. I've reached out to my network and found some success there but I've also been shotgunning out applications on LinkedIn to any "close-enough" remote role that had easy apply (I'm saving a ton of time on resume customization and cover letter bullshitting). That's resulted in a lot of rejections which is demoralizing - but it's a numbers game at this point. No new job yet - but definitely some good responses and intro calls after only 2 weeks of searching. (Background - 10 years experience/full stack and marketing/college drop out/LA)
  • eterps 4y ago
    > I've been looking around for new work and my job search has changed drastically from pre-pandemic. I am building a product that improves job search compared to the current offerings. May I ask you a couple of questions about how your job search has changed and what would improve it even more?
• sanjose99 4y ago
  I got hired after 11 weeks of interviewing and a significant paycut.
• TradingPlaces 4y ago
  I know no one gets a CS degree dreaming of working for Walmart, but they have over 1100 openings with the word “software” in the title https://careers.walmart.com/results?q=software&page=1&sort=rank&expand=department,brand,type,rate&jobCareerArea=all https://careers.walmart.com/results?q=software&page=1&sort=r...
  • thwayunion 4y ago
    Serious question: how is working for Walmart different from working for Amazon Retail?
    • TradingPlaces 4y ago
      Let’s start with the pay, then move to the benefits, and then move on to their Sunnyvale, CA location for many of the software jobs. Not saying it’s for everyone. But there are a lot of software layoffs and they are definitely hiring at competitive pay/benefits. Every Fortune 500 company is a tech company now.
• layoff_payoff 4y ago
  I was laid of in November, started interviewing a week later. I got about 50% response on my applications; I bombed most of them at various stages (I should have increased prep time by another week or 2). I got an offer in early January and started last week. My compensation dropped by 30-40%, but I figured if I'll probably spend more than 30% of the year waiting for an offer close to what had before. Considering my poor interview performance, I did not want to compete with a glut of engineers I had a hunch would be let go in the new year (which turned out correct). I registered a Delaware LLC for $200, my current job is not as remotely challenging as my FAANG job so I have plenty of mental energy at the end of my 8-hour(!) work day, even when I go out of my way to add tasks outside of my duties. I just haven't thought up a lifestyle-business idea to run with.
  • cowthulhu 4y ago
    Why did you register the LLC? Sounds interesting!
    • layoff_payoff 4y ago
      2 reasons: the first is to show myself how I'm now "serious" about this; I've always have half-assed projects I mentally considered to be hobbies, but these experiments will be different. The second reason is related - I want to have a clear separation between my personal finances and the new venture in order to track my losses. It is aspirational, but I needed to take the step for self-accountability and self-motivation
      • sohnakukkar 4y ago
        What about taxes on LLC?
        • layoff_payoff 4y ago
          $300/year to the state of Delaware works out to less than a dollar a day. The LLC is a pass-through entity (single member), so federal taxes will be handled with my personal tax filing. The lack of profits keeps my bookkeeping and taxes simple, if/when it become profitable enough that income tax categorization becomes a disadvantage, well, that will be good problem to have.
• popctrl 4y ago
  Related question, how's the SW contracting market right now? Been thinking about quitting my full time and picking up jobs here and there as my expenses are very low.
• lovich 4y ago
  I wasn’t laid off but was bored enough at my job to be looking. Interviews dialed back in quantity around august but I was able to find and interview with another company or two every week and accepted a position in December(was waiting to come across the right job, not just any job). We’re still hiring too and not just for technical positions. I have friends at several other companies who are as well. The FAANGs gobbled up so much talent just to deny it to their competition that it sucked all the oxygen out of the industry and now that the people are available there’s still companies desperate to hire even with the higher cost of capital and inflation
• beckingz 4y ago
  Got the first verbal offer 3 weeks after getting laid off. Market is still hot for data people here in DC.
• m3talsmith 4y ago
  I just had my first week last week. Took a startup first engineer position and I’m not regretting it!
• rowaway69 4y ago
  Maybe things are not as bad in Europe. We do not make FAANG Palo Alto money but that also means we are not expecting to continue making FAANG money in situations like these. Decent backend developer, ~8 years of experience. Laid off beginning of December, sent out about 18 cold applications since then. I did not hear back from 5 companies, I was rejected (when this happened, usually very early in the process) from 10 companies, and received 3 offers. Ended up with a ten percent raise and five more holiday days than my previous position. Only remote positions.
  • sohnakukkar 4y ago
    Where are you in Europe? What is your current tech stack and domain? What salaray range?