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Updates to Google Cloud’s infrastructure capabilities and pricing
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- bithavoc 5y agoI don’t understand this announcement. What changed?
- hepinhei 5y agoIt seems a soft strategy to announce some products and pricing increase
- ithkuil 5y agowhen the messaging is unclear, assume bad news
- detaro 5y agoDid you miss the links to the detailed per-product announcements at the bottom?
- bithavoc 5y agoYeah pretty much, maybe they intent it to be as opaque as possible
- kemotep 5y agoIt is announcement that: > Cloud storage and multi-region replication and inter-region access are changing in pricing. > The introduction of a lower cost option in archive snapshots for Persistent Disk pricing. > New pricing for Load Balancing (to bring it in line with other providers. Read: very likely AWS pricing) > A new price for Network Topology, now included in the price is Performance Dashboard and Network Intelligence Center. All without what the new prices will be so based on the fact that it is several services with varying prices based on usage it could be a substantial change or not much at all. Quite vague and unhelpful of a post by Google other than to give you a heads up to not be surprised about your bill in October.
- Kelteseth 5y agoIs it this: https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing-announce https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing-announce ? > This page covers Cloud Storage pricing changes which will become effective on October 1, 2022. See the Pricing page for current prices. Search for "increase" and you will find 15 results.
- kemotep 5y agoThis is a much better page with a clearer picture of what is changing then the linked announcement. Thanks for sharing it.
- ocdtrekkie 5y agoFWIW, one cost decrease actually also uses the word "increase": The amount of Always Free Internet egress will increase from 1 GB per month to 100 GB per month to each qualifying egress destination. But I don't know if 100xing the free egress offsets all the doubling storage costs...
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- detaro 5y agoThe per-product announcements with numbers are linked at the bottom.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 5y agoI skimmed the announcement, couldn't immediately understand what is changing, and concluded from that that it's a price increase. Judging by the comments here, I was right.
- oauea 5y ago> The impact of the pricing changes depends on customers’ use cases and usage. While some customers may see an increase in their bills, we’re also introducing new options for some services to better align with usage, which could lower some customers’ bills. In fact, many customers will be able to adapt their portfolios and usage to decrease costs. We’re working directly with customers to help them understand which changes may impact them. So they're raising prices.
- notyourday 5y ago> So they're raising prices. But but but cloud prices only go down /s
- kbutler 5y agoSorry, that's AWS.
- Jcampuzano2 5y agoIf they were decreasing prices, it would be in the opening paragraph like essentially every other cloud providers price decrease announcements. Whenever reading these announcements, if price decrease isn't seen within the first few paragraphs (the earlier the better), it's basically them trying to explain away price increases for the vast majority. The fact that they even have to try to argue/explain whether prices are decreasing/increasing is a worse sign.
- underyx 5y agoNo, they're letting you unlock more choice with updates to their pricing.
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- jacquesm 5y agoGoogle cloud has to be the most confusing product suite known to mankind. What an unbelievable mess. After merging two companies I had to move a bunch of stuff over to a new bankaccount. three weeks later and I'm still not 100% sure that I got it all, the interfaces are so opaque and the different ways in which you can get billed so confusing (never mind the bills themselves) that it is nearly impossible to get a clear picture. This does not feel like it is an accident, and this message is very much in line with that. I always wonder how such systems come about. The number of confusing error messages you have to deal with for pretty basic stuff is off the scale. You can name anything, except of course when it actually matters and then only some cryptic UID is shown. Don't get me started on users and permission management, or how it is perfectly possible to orphan an entire project[1] if a person leaves your org. (Gsuite and GCP may superficially appear to share a bunch of stuff but that just sets you up for some very cute surprises, from which it can be extremely difficult to recover.) [1] https://cloud.google.com/resource-manager/docs/project-suspension-guidelines https://cloud.google.com/resource-manager/docs/project-suspe...
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- admn2 5y agoI can't believe how confusing all these cloud products are to do the most basic things. It really makes me appreciate Cloudflare, they seem to do a really great job with their UIs.
- ethbr0 5y agoMy intuition, and some experience sitting in meetings with GCP folks, is that their engineering teams don't dogfood their own products end-to-end sufficiently (e.g. including billing) on a daily basis, like their customers have to. The amount of blank stares and "Oh..."s that happened when asked about relatively simple, everyone-would-need-it use cases for management, visibility, etc was mind boggling. GCP feels like Google rediscovering being Microsoft of the 1990s. If you have strong product teams, but no strong overarching experience teams, your resulting system is going to be a hash of well-polished but distinct products, with an extremely ugly unification layer.
- 015a 5y ago> Will customers’ bills increase? Decrease? The impact of the pricing changes depends on customers’ use cases and usage. While some customers may see an increase in their bills, we’re also introducing new options for some services to better align with usage, which could lower some customers’ bills. In fact, many customers will be able to adapt their portfolios and usage to decrease costs. We’re working directly with customers to help them understand which changes may impact them. There is a zero percent chance they haven't ran the analysis and concluded what % of customers would see a bill increase. It's high. If its low-to-zero, cloud companies are clear about how the prices are changing, and usually outline how many customers are would be negatively impacted. If it's high, they're ambiguous about what is changing, and shift the blame onto customers; if its still expensive for you, you're just not using it right.
- dsr_ 5y agoMore specifically: if the majority of customers were going to see lower bills from Google, even if the top N% would see higher bills, you can bet that the headline would be "New pricing structure reduces bills for most customers".
- ocdtrekkie 5y agoYou can definitely lie with statistics here. The "Always Free" egress change is probably going to mostly affect the large pool of free and near-free cloud users. So a very large number of people who "have Google Cloud accounts" may see costs go down. But the costs will go up for all the customers heavily investing in Google Cloud and using Google Cloud for storage of a lot of data. So the overall outcome will be more money for Google, in an update that claims a cost reduction for a large number of users.
- ec109685 5y agoThey are expecting behavior to change based on the new prices, so that’s why they have to be vague and can’t precisely predict what the final cost will be to customers.
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- FBISurveillance 5y agotl;dr: sorry folks, raising prices since electricity prices skyrocketed, engineers want more money, and inflation is real.
- exyi 5y agoExcept that HDD, SSD storage is getting cheaper quite fast. CPUs and RAM also didn't get more expensive and continues to eat less watts. So I think it's more like: sorry guys, we ran an analysis and found that when we raise the price, most people won't migrate away and we make more money :]
- Gareth321 5y agoExactly. Prices aren't determined by costs. They're determined by supply and demand. This might indicate demand continues to increase relative to supply.
- exyi 5y agoOr they figured out that demand is inflexible - so it will stay the same even though they double the prize. If the price would be determined by costs, why would their cloud be multiple times more expensive than Hetzner.
- Ygg2 5y ago> Except that HDD, SSD storage is getting cheaper quite fast. The pandemic has global chip manufacturing, but left SSD and HDD untouched? How?
- replygirl 5y agoYour car doesn't need 10 SSDs
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y agoI don't know details - I don't even know that storage is getting cheaper, haven't been paying attention - but flash chips are, IIRC, way easier to manufacture than current-gen processors; it's plausible that SSDs are escaping being affected the way CPUs/GPUs are.
- zitterbewegung 5y agoHas any other large cloud provider increase prices like this ? I remember using Google App Engine awhile ago and switched to AWS when they increased prices and I don’t understand why you would just have prices higher and eventually lower them once you get more customers . Other than BigQuery and TPUs I’m not sure of the advantages of Google cloud …
- bluedino 5y agoNot yet, but with Amazon increasing everyone's salaries, the price of everything in general going up, you're likely to see every large provider raise their prices. It seems like only the new players will lower prices.
- acdha 5y agoHow much revenue does Amazon generate per employee? This comes up a lot in arguments about the minimum wage where people talk like the price of a Big Mac will double because they aren't accurately accounting for the percentage of cost which isn't human time. Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc. pay their people a lot more but they also typically can amortize a developer's cost over many thousands of customers so I'd be surprised if this drove a big increase — especially compared to the stress we're likely to see if China has an extended Omicron lockdown.
- staticassertion 5y agoAmazon and AWS function pretty independently. It would be really odd to see Amazon raises impact AWS prices.
- tedivm 5y agoAWS raised salaries, not Amazon. That said I don't expect that to result in a raise in prices, as AWS is pretty profitable.
- oblio 5y agoAmazon raised salaries: https://www.geekwire.com/2022/what-amazons-big-pay-increase-says-about-the-company-and-the-broader-tech-industry-in-2022/ https://www.geekwire.com/2022/what-amazons-big-pay-increase-...
- neya 5y agoHoly crap! They're actually doubling the pricing (for some important products)! I actually followed the links and found this: > Coldline Storage Class B operations pricing will increase from $0.05 per 10,000 operations to $0.10 per 10,000 operations. > Coldline Storage Class A operations pricing in regions will increase from $0.10 per 10,000 operations to $0.20 per 10,000 operations. > Coldline Storage Class A operations pricing in multi-regions and dual-regions will increase from $0.10 per 10,000 operations to $0.40 per 10,000 operations. > For all other storage classes, Class A operations pricing in multi-regions and dual-regions will increase to be double the Class A operations pricing in regions. For example, Standard Storage Class A operations in multi-regions and dual-regions will increase from $0.05 per 10,000 operations to $0.10 per 10,000 operations. This announcement is just an eye wash to hide the fact that they're doubling their pricing structure for some products. And they claim most customers will see a cost decrease. Sigh, I was just thinking of moving all my stuff, projects and even websites from cloud hosted solutions to my own home server and slapping a cache like CloudFlare on top of it and calling it a day. This is only pushing me in that direction, haha. Reference: https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing-announce https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing-announce
- thematrixturtle 5y agoAs a Coldline user myself I'm not exactly happy about this, but Coldline is also the cheapest class of archival storage that Google offers. This means the increased costs will not kick in unless you actually need to un-archive data, which for typical archival cases like old logs happens quite rarely.
- yelling_cat 5y agoAnd there's no gotcha there, Google's always been open that retrieval fees are the tradeoff for Coldline being otherwise so cheap. Nearline is the better option for data you'll access more once a quarter.
- gunapologist99 5y ago"so cheap" might be a bit overly relative in this usage..
- rainboiboi 5y agoI do expect AWS to capitalize on this and persuade GCP customers to switch. I have no idea why GCP thinks that their customers are sticky enough to stay with them through the price increase.
- jacquesm 5y agoI do. There is a substantial cost to switching stuff like this. We use Gsuite and a very minimal GC setup so from a financial perspective it doesn't really matter all that much. But clearly GC is set up for huge enterprises and for an SME customer all that flexibility translates into considerable overhead. Having a 'single supplier' is a risk because it puts all of your eggs in one basket, at the same time it should normally simplify things. But in the case of GC it probably doesn't. That said: neither AWS nor MS are particularly attractive either, none of these companies really have my sympathy, it is choosing the least bad rather than choosing the best. Technical merits, pricing, cost to switch, company image, it all factors into decisions like these.
- lmkg 5y agoI agree the number of customers outright switching cloud platforms will be low. But some of them might start small explorations of multi-cloud, even if it's just at the level of "my team wants to use an AWS product for this internal project" isn't auto-denied. Long-term, that chips away at GCP's leverage on their existing customers.
- syshum 5y agoLooking at just the storage pricing, it looks like GCP was already priced lower than AWS and Azure, this increase brings them either to on par, just just slightly below AWS and Azure. GCP was trying to "loss lead" in to dominance, does not look like that was working out since even being more expensive AWS and Azure were still killing them. Of course if you only choose GCP because of cost you have little reason to stay so...
- marcinzm 5y agoMany enterprise care more about the risk of prices changing than the absolute prices. The later you can account for in budgets more easily than the former. Especially if the price increase is one that goes from $0 to $non-zero since that could be a massive increase in absolute dollars. AWS has never afaik increased prices which is a pretty strong selling point even if specific services likely are a loss for them perpetually as a result if mis-priced initially.
- sklargh 5y agoActually lol’d at “unlock more choice,” - if it’s truly a commodity product we’d expect basically zero margin. Clearly Azure, AWS and GCP are not zero margin, which implies oligopolistic (does Oracle even count?) price coordination for enterprise cloud. (Edited, forgot Azure)
- onlyrealcuzzo 5y agoMSFT is a much bigger player than Oracle.
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- sklargh 5y agoOooof big miss. Fixed.
- napoleon_thepig 5y agoWhile I agree that there's a lot of marketing speak here, I have to note that: 1) You wouldn't expect zero margin, you would expect normal margin, that is, these companies should have around the same margin as the average of the rest of the economy. 2) Commodity markets don't have to be low margin, because a commodity market with high market concentration will be a high margin market.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoWhat does market concentration mean?
- meragrin_ 5y agoI pretty sure it refers to how the market share is spread between the competitors in a market. In a market with low concentration, you have say 20 competitors and no one has more than 10% of the market. When there is high market concentration, 3 of those 20 competitors might have 80% of the market.
- dmw_ng 5y ago22% increase in some per-GB costs and 50% increase in some per-request costs of the most fungible, commodity service any cloud offers. Really no idea what to make of this. At least it seems reasonable to expect further pricing changes from other clouds in the coming weeks (and knowing AWS, maybe even an announcement in the coming day or two)
- bluedino 5y agoWell, it was called 'updates to pricing', not 'lower prices for' or 'double the memory/storage for our users'
- acdha 5y agoI’d be surprised if AWS announced increases: they LOVE to note that they’ve never done that in their sales pitches and enterprise customers value predictability more than the absolute lowest cost. I’d guess that their margins on things like network egress would cover most fluctuation but otherwise I’d expect at most to see something like the EU data centers getting a temporary Russian war energy surcharge while they figure out how to buy a ton of green power contracts.
- drusepth 5y agoAFAICT they were a loss-leader with some of the cheapest cloud storage prior to this update, and this brings them closer in price to AWS/Azure (although still slightly cheaper). I wouldn't expect price changes from other platforms in response to this.
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- wejick 5y agoHow to introduce price hike to look like an improvement
- ushakov 5y agowe moved off Google Cloud functions after they become 10x more expensive for us they first introduced container registry, which made us pay for the storage (before you only paid for invocation and egress) > If your functions are stored in Container Registry, you'll see small charges after you deploy because Container Registry has no free tier. Container Registry's regional storage costs are currently about $0.026 per GB per month. recently they sent an email telling us new functions are going to use to “Artifact Registry” and prompting to migrate our old functions > Cloud Functions (2nd gen) exclusively uses Artifact Registry. Artifact Registry price: $0.10 per GB per month
- flycatcha 5y agoI'm using Cloud Functions as well - where did you move them to? Lambda?
- ushakov 5y agoluckily we started migrating before the announcement i'd recommend checking serverless framework (serverless.com) or openfaas (openfaas.com) best thing you can do is not get involved with provider-specific APIs: use Docker/Kubernetes for building and executing your code, Postgres-compatible database (Hasura if you want Firebase experience) and S3 for object storage, send e-mails using SMTP again, don't use provider-specific API's
- seabrookmx 5y agoWanted to add another option to ushakov's comment: KNative (which is actually what CloudRun is built on). If you run k8s clusters anywhere, OpenFaaS and KNative are both solid options. OpenFaaS is seems better suited for short running, less compute intensive things. Whereas KNative is a great fit for API's.. it just removed a bunch of the complexity around deployment (like writing a helm chart, configuring an HPA, etc).
- twistedpair 5y ago> Wanted to add another option to ushakov's comment: KNative (which is actually what CloudRun is built on). And GCF v2 is running on KNative on Cloud Run... turtles all the way down.
- staticassertion 5y agoI actually got excited, thinking that this would be another drop to egress in order to compete with Cloudflare and AWS. AWS just significantly improved pricing on egress to compete with Cloudflare, so it seemed like an obvious next step for other clouds to do so. Instead, huge price increases? That's... confusing. I honestly wonder if Google wants to kill off Cloud, given how much money they lose on it every year.
- pier25 5y agoMaybe they want to focus on compute and start pushing users out of storage. I wonder if CF will be able to satisfy the storage demand once they release R2.
- staticassertion 5y agoThat sounds like a horrible idea, if so. Storage is sticky. You can migrate compute easily, it's databases that keep people in your cloud.
- pier25 5y agoI don't know but for the past 2-3 years Google has been on some crusade to reduce its storage usage/customers. For me it started in 2020 when Google announced my Firebase storage usage would go from maybe $20 per year to something like $800 per year, for a single app. Apparently they had forgotten to charge Firebase users for egress, for years. But then also Gmail stopped adding more storage at some point so I was forced to get a Google One subscription or migrate 15 years of emails to some other service. Etc. I suspect Google has realized it's better to reduce its storage customers and just keep the ones that are ready to pay more, instead of expanding their storage capabilities ad infinitum.
- derekdb 5y agoHaving worked on both AWS and GCP, my experience was that AWS had a much better organizational grasp on how to price services. They track the predicted revenue/costs compared to the observed, and expect each team to have roadmap projects to improve that ratio over time (or at least to keep the ratio the same as they drive down prices). When I was there, Google has not such process for tracking their costs. Engineering teams had much less understanding of their costs as well. I never worked on Azure, but I heard similar stories there to my experience at GCP; that there was no institutional process for reducing costs. Building top down process to improve costs to enable price drops is one of Amazon's core strengths. It is core to how they run all their businesses.
- pbiggar 5y agoMy $10,000/month bill just went up by $4.41 from "List Price $ increase in monthly bill due to multi-region egress"
- maximilianroos 5y agoThis seems to be the biggest deal, a few links away. > Reading data in a Cloud Storage bucket located in a multi-region from a Google Cloud service located in a region on the same continent will no longer be free; instead, such moves will be priced the same as general data moves between different locations on the same continent. If I understand correctly (do I?), this means that storing frequently used data in a multi-region bucket is suddenly very expensive — we go from paying $0 to $0.02/GB. Reading 10TB / hour goes from $0/year to $1.75M/year. We can switch to single-region buckets, but it's quite an effort to move all the data.
- NAHWheatCracker 5y agoI'd love to be on a team that's reading 10TB per hour and has to explain that huge bill to executives!
- atwebb 5y agoI'm no GCP user but if you've planned for "schema on read" and throw a bunch of poorly indexed/partitioned/compressed files in there you could probably get to it pretty quick...
- Cyclenerd 5y agoThe fire last year at OVH showed us impressively that it is not a good idea to have your data only in one region. So don't do it and stick to multi-region.
- bastardoperator 5y agoOh Google, you were so much better when you were focused on technology and not milking everything you touch.
- jcoene 5y agoVery heavy Google Cloud Storage user here. According to Google's own calculations (in the email they sent about the price changes), this will increase our GCS bill by about 400% (and our entire Google Cloud bill by about 60%). It would seem that we have until October to move elsewhere... :(
- zmmmmm 5y ago> It would seem that we have until October to move elsewhere the biggest fear especially with this class of infrastructure (long term cold storage) is that they can make it too expensive to leave at any time by upping the retrieval / egress costs. How expensive is that move going to be?
- twistedpair 5y agoNot sure about your usage model, but if you have a defined retention for customer data (e.g. 1 year), then you can start pushing new data to a different tier/cloud provider, as the old data drops off, and a year later, you're completely "migrated", without having to stage a stop the world migration between services.
- zmmmmm 5y agoIn our case, it's effectively "forever" storage. Which is to say, we are obliged to retain data for at least 10 years but targeting 20 years. At this point we are doing this with on-premise tape backup but that is in part because I'm yet to be convinced that we can trust cloud providers with this, especially since our future retrieval needs are unclear (some outlier scenarios could see us needing to retrieve substantial fractions of the data). Not to mention that even the coldest cloud storage seems to still be substantially more expensive than DIY tape archival (admittedly, not taking into account things like internal IT staff costs etc).
- seiryth 5y agoFirst real question would be do you actually need multi region buckets? If so, look elsewhere.. if not, time to reassess the architecture.
- lukeaf 5y agoIt'd be great if, rather than just sending an email to a somewhat confusing calculator or pricing sheet, they'd show the potential cost increases alongside your actual bill so that you have 6 months to tweak, negotiate or move off the service if you really can't afford the price increases. I don't get why it's not just "easier" to make the effects super obvious. If people are going to leave, they're going to leave.
- zbjornson 5y agoThey did. We got personalized emails for each account showing the effect on each project.
- didip 5y agoUsually a SaaS company jacks up the price when they struggle to grow right? So, is GCP struggling for growth?
- remus 5y agoI don't think that's the take home here. Viewed across their entire offering I suspect this is a relatively minor pricing change and won't have a big effect on the bottom line. Pure speculation, but I suspect that since Thomas Kurian took over there's been an increased focus on becoming profitable, so there's been more focus on tying up those little areas that were leaking money (e.g. legacy g suite free users). My guess this is another change along those lines.
- politelemon 5y agoWhile everyone else is able to discuss the announcement, the contents aren't even loading for me on FF98. The OP URL redirects me to https://cloud.google.com/blog/ https://cloud.google.com/blog/. I just see the header/footer estate, and a forever progress bar right at the top. Cache cleared, private window. The middle is just blank. https://i.imgur.com/WpyxwqB.png https://i.imgur.com/WpyxwqB.png
- deanCommie 5y ago> While some customers may see an increase in their bills Said Amazon never.
- benlivengood 5y agoEven the automatic transcoding between the tiers of GCS requires billable read/write OPs, so if you have a lot of data in Coldline and now want it in Archive then do it now at the lower prices.
- iskander 5y agoI want to store a few dozen TB of genomics data in a publicly accessible way. Are there any better alternatives to S3 or Google Cloud Storage? I've been waiting for Cloudflare's R2 but the beta is not yet open yet and I'm not even sure it would work well for me.
- foota 5y agoYou could use requested pays with s3 or GCP, which requires the reader to use their own project and pay for requests.
- chockchocschoir 5y agoBetter in terms of what? There are many variables to consider, and some might be more important than others in your case. If you "cost" is the top priority, get a dedicated instance with unmetered connection and a 1 or 10gbps port, then you'll have a static price/month that won't surprise you. If latency/bandwidth is more important, throw a CDN in front of that instance, but price will vary more then as you'll pay per data served (in most cases).
- AdrienPoupa 5y agoWasabi [1] is admittedly up to 80% cheaper than S3. But it forces you to keep your files for 90 days at least. I saw it recommended several times as a cheaper alternative to S3-backed storage for OwnCloud. [1] https://wasabi.com/ https://wasabi.com/
- kondro 5y agoWasabi's policy prevents reading more than you write. They're designed for backup, not publication.
- thallium205 5y agoSpin up a GSuite Enterprise account and drop it all in Drive. Unlimited storage in Drive for enterprise accounts.
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- gnfargbl 5y agoA little surprise hidden away in here: it is currently possible to exfiltrate data from a Cloud Storage bucket at standard tier ($0.085+/GB) instead of premium tier network rates ($0.12+/GB). This is achieved by making the bucket a backend for an external HTTP(S) load balancer [1] ($18/month). This announcement adds an additional $0.008+/GB for the cost of outbound data moving through the load balancer, so effectively that's a 9% increase on the standard tier bandwidth pricing. [1] https://cloud.google.com/network-tiers/docs/overview https://cloud.google.com/network-tiers/docs/overview
- Dylan16807 5y agoCharging that much money for specifically "non-premium" bandwidth is just insulting.
- daenz 5y agoNow to make a decision: pay in engineering time to optimize your engineering workflows to reduce cloud costs, or pay GCP instead?
- mdoms 5y agoIs this the first step to killing GCP?
- profmonocle 5y agoGoogle as an organization seems hellbent on teaching their users not to rely on them. On the consumer side it's by rapidly abandoning products, on the cloud side it's by dramatic price increases. I think this is the third time we've been slapped with a new charge for something that used to be free. (In this case, egress from multi-region storage to a local region.) That's not going to burn us super hard, but maybe it's only a matter of time before they add a new charge that hikes our bill by 50%.
- jl6 5y agoWhen did the word “update” in a product announcement become a euphemism for bad news?
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- fleddr 5y agoI think it's a mistake to call Google the most customer-hostile company to have ever existed. This would require them to even grasp the concept of what a customer is. I don't think anybody working there has every seen or met a customer in their life. They are man-childs that during a lockdown can't even make a pot of coffee of their own, that work on "cool stuff".
- rrdharan 5y agoI’m a software engineer at Google, working on Cloud Bigtable, which I personally think is pretty “cool stuff”. I speak to different prospective and existing customers multiple times a week, sometimes multiple times a day, over chat, email, video conference and occasionally in-person (pre-pandemic). I worked from home and made two pots of coffee today - one pour-over and one drip.
- hankman86 5y agoThis seems like GCP is shifting its strategy away from trying to win more market share and catch up with Azure, AWS, Tencent. Perhaps they realised that this is futile and not are now focussing on revenue, milking their existing customer base.
- Havoc 5y agoThis is in part why I like using cloud but only as very basic building blocks. Else the lock-in is too intense
- zmmmmm 5y ago> In fact, many customers will be able to adapt their portfolios and usage to decrease costs. Sounds like a sneaky way to win some quick revenue because they know a huge number of customers are not going to be able to go back and re-engineer their storage use in time, so will end up out-of-pocket even while Google gets to pretend they are saving everyone money. It seems particularly problematic to increase prices on anything to do with long term cold storage. That is where customers are placing the most trust in their vendor since much of this data is held for mandatory compliance reasons and retrieval costs are sufficient that it is completely infeasible to migrate out. > Storage Transfer Service will be available free-of-cost for transfers within Cloud Storage, starting April 2 until the end of the year Is this a loophole to get free retrieval of data from cold storage that we could exploit for other reasons?
- tedk-42 5y agoOnce again this proves Google is NOT a customer focused company. These price increases are driven by accounting and are short term calculations. As someone who's used AWS for most of my professional career, I've only ever seen prices being reduced to be more competitive rather than increased to 'align' with offerings of other vendors. Newer generations of compute and storage are often cheaper and faster than previous generations which shows they are able to invest in technology to make things cheaper for the customer and lower cost for them to maintain which is impressive.
- nerdyadventurer 5y agoHow is the AWS pricing compared to GCP in general? Does AWS have anything similar to Cloud Run?
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- anirudhmurali 5y agoSetting object lifecycle policies is now more important than ever because of the changes to the pricing in Google Cloud Storage. If anyone's interested to optimize their Cloud Storage costs - check out https://www.economize.cloud https://www.economize.cloud. We are launching support for Cloud Storage this week.