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- themusicgod1 5y agoThis development should not be going on in github anyway.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y agoThat's rather a separate issue. Also, why? I'd certainly have a backup after the last takedown, but I doubt that any commercial host will be much better.
- rvnx 5y agoMaybe laws don't apply on gitee ? (Chinese GitHub)
- dylan604 5y agoDid I just read that correctly? WAT! Try hosting code on gitee that mentions Winnie the Pooh, tank man, or _____________.
- userbinator 5y agoI think that comment was referring to Western IP laws.
- astrange 5y agoIt's funny that all of these type of comments mention Winnie the Pooh when I'm pretty sure this is a reddit injoke they've convinced themselves is important. Does anyone in China know they're supposed to be epically owned when you say that?
- dylan604 5y agoIt doesn't really matter what the offense is, but if the CCP feels offended, say bye bye.
- astrange 5y agoSure, but has it offended the CCP so far? If not, celebratory posting as if you’ve been censored when you haven’t sort of makes you a poser.
- boogies 5y ago> Sure, but has it offended the CCP so far? Images of Pooh and his Chinese name have been censored in mainland China, the movie Christopher Robin wasn’t allowed to release there, and a South Park episode about it got the whole show banned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh#Censorship_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh#Censorship_in_...
- boogies 5y agoOn sr.ht at least the issues would stay distributed in contributor's email inboxes in the event of a takedown. Maybe they'd even keep it up despite questionable takedown notices, like youtube-dl.org's host did (not surprisingly unlike the MS-owned repo host, given it's an RIAA member). Another solution to issue loss would be embedding the issues in the repo, as some already extant tools do.
- OptionX 5y agoDoesn't matter. Repos can be cloned and easily moved to another git service. The attempt to take down yt-dl itself showed that. A misguided attempt at it shutting spawned countless forks across multiple git hosting services that cannot possible all be taken down. A techy Streisand-effect if you will.
- weisk 5y agoYeah, I remember that. That was a day to remember, a victory for the open source. The explosion in forks across many other git services, was so widespread and loud that github (apparently under pressure from google) had to pull back on their decision to shut it down.
- dylan604 5y agoHow did Googs put pressure on Microsoft to have Github change their mind? What concern was it of Goog's?
- olibhel 5y agoGoogle owns Youtube and youtube-dl doesn't serve google ads?
- dylan604 5y agowow, total brain fart. of course. makes mental note to not be so quick to post right before bed
- vbezhenar 5y agoyoutube-dl users probably are tiny drop among the adblock users who also do not see ads. And Google does not care about adblock.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoI assume google cares about people who block ads because a month or so ago, google figured out how to show ads even though I am using a content blocker on iOS and macOS.
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- LeoPanthera 5y agoFor those unaware, there is an active fork called yt-dlp, that is (mostly) a drop-in replacement: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
- walrus01 5y agoswitched to it a couple of weeks back, working flawlessly for my needs.
- kaetemi 5y agoAlso bypasses throttling. Much faster, most of the time.
- nextaccountic 5y agoSounds like a great recipe for getting banned from services. But, as long as it works, I'm all for it..
- kaetemi 5y agoApparently the trick is to pretend being an Android device, or something in that style...
- kevin_thibedeau 5y agoYou used to be able to bypass throttling by watching the video in browser during the download.
- usr1106 5y agoI have always wondered why video sites (who don't want downloaders for various reasons) serve their content faster than required for normal speed viewing. Well, I don't complain, but I wonder.
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- gurchik 5y agoNot only have the yt-dl maintainers had to deal with the legal issues and the stress that comes with it, it appears they have a massive spam problem on GitHub which must make it difficult to efficiently deal with bugs. I was looking through the reported Issues recently due to a bug that caused yt-dl to stop working for a few days; a PR was quickly written to address the issue but it wasn't merged for several days. That's when I saw Issues like this: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/29809 https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/29809
- sergiotapia 5y agoI think a good solution would be to make the bar higher to submit an issue. Disable Github Issues entirely and only allow true mailing list type issues that are significantly "uglier" and less "normie" friendly.
- codetrotter 5y agoNo. I contribute many useful GitHub issues, exactly because it’s easily navigable and comfortable to use GH issues. If you want to raise the bar, I think a reputation system would be better.
- aloisdg 5y agoWho know who is doing quite ok? Stack Overflow.
- OldTimeCoffee 5y agoI think a system like how Slashdot moderation works. You get X points to rate issues or comments based on how many points you have. Comments get a value -2 to 5. Default view only shows 0 to 5. You really only focus your efforts on removing things with a negative rating. I remember it working surprisingly well, especially browsing at 1 or higher, and I've never understood why no one has replicated it. 'Karma' systems must get better engagement.
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- mikotodomo 5y agoOh well, Youtube blocks Tor now so you need to use Invidious anyway.
- gpvos 5y agoWhy did you previously need to use Tor?
- cubesnooper 5y agoTo keep Google from maintaining a profile of my behavioral patterns and video viewing history based on my IP address.
- afroboy 5y agoWouldn't be VPN a sufficient solution?
- mehdix 5y agoI think falsifying your user agent would be critical. Even with e.g. Mullvad how many requests will it take until one is deanonymized? Let's say I'm using a crowded VPN exit, still I can be profiled based on my user agent, the vpn IP and my requests. All it'd take them to connect the dots, would be me openning my apps/browser tabs on my phone/laptop/device without VPN for a second.
- clusterfish 5y agoNot just user agent. Tons of other info is used for fingerprinting, from viewport and screen size to the list of installed fonts.
- mehdix 5y agoHow would you go about them? So far I rely on Mullvad, privacy badger, ublock and random user agent.
- lazzlazzlazz 5y agoWhy isn't the canonical fork of YouTube-DL hosted on a decentralized, anonymous system like Radicle[1]? [1]: https://radicle.xyz/ https://radicle.xyz/
- jrwr 5y agoThat website is something else for sure. It really needs some help on explaining what it even does... (And it throws around the fancy buzzwords like Web3)
- jeffybefffy519 5y agoA web 3.0 website with a 1990’s style
- LordDragonfang 5y agoMore like early 2000's style, it almost wouldn't look out of place on geocities if not for the weird mobile-first-looking scaling.
- thebiblelover7 5y agoyeah, that would be fantastic!
- alpaca128 5y agoI gotta say, this is the first website I've seen that shows less the larger the browser window is. When I maximize it one line says "code collab" and when the window is smaller it says "code collaborati". I think it wants to say collaboration, but it never actually shows up completely. Then there's "No more wall" and "explore the codela", whatever that's supposed to mean. Whether this is on purpose or not, please try to decide whether you want to build a program or an art project.
- busymom0 5y agoOn mobile, it looks readable but you are spot on about it looking more like an art project than a developer oriented website. Also the text is often unreadable due to contrast issues of gradient color in front of pictures.
- b0ner_t0ner 5y agoWe're relying way too much on YouTube.
- motoxpro 5y agoYou can just use the other site that has millions and millions of videos. Oh wait... Well at least you can start another site aggregates millions and millions of videos. Dang it, then that site will run into the same problems. Joking aside, I think the "competition is just a click away" applies here it's just that the competition isnt as good.
- ls15 5y ago> the competition isnt as good. The competition does not have Youtube's network effects.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoThe competition does not have Googles’s ability and/or willingness to burn that much cash. Apple or Facebook or Amazon or Microsoft have the cash, but obviously none of them see a sufficient likelihood of sufficient ROI. I cannot blame anyone who does not want to start a YouTube competitor, the moderation costs alone must be insane. But for video creators interested in sharing their work, they can do it without Google, and it has never been easier in the history of the world.
- BrazzVuvuzela 5y ago> Apple or Facebook or Amazon or Microsoft have the cash, but obviously none of them see a sufficient likelihood of sufficient ROI. Or they're back at their old tricks and are doing cartel stuff again; making secret agreements with each other about respecting each other's home turf.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoI will go with the simpler explanation of video hosting and content moderation being expensive, and needing deep expertise in selling ads online in order to make any money on it. Vimeo has been around since 2004 catering to businesses, who are far likelier to be paying customers requiring much smaller expenses for content moderation, and still does not earn a profit.
- darepublic 5y agoPerhaps an aside but recently using Google assistant to play music tracks from YouTube has mostly stopped working for me. Commands that previously worked such as "play $title by $author" now get a response that YouTube premium is needed to search tracks. some specific song titles in particular still get played but most do not. I also used to be able to say "play $album_title full album" but whereas it would previously start playing a video or playlist of the full album now I get a message advertising YouTube premium and then directing me to a mix based on the album title but not a playlist. Of course someone could pretty easily roll their own bot to provide this lost functionality but I think one day this too will be locked down via various means. Maybe the post scarcity era of YouTube and internet was never realistic to begin with. Was spoiled by the days of free Coursera, youtube, cheap Uber rides etc. I feel like in the future I'll be that old guy (or "boomer") telling the young people about the good old days of the internet and they'll just be rolling their eyes and dismissing such talk with some meme, incidentally to the benefit of Google/Alphabet
- Jabbles 5y agoWhat do people use YTDL for? Is it to maintain personal records of videos you like?
- dijit 5y agoIt’s useful to download talks before jumping on a flight. It’s also useful to pipe the output to mpv and have a native video playback experience. This is especially useful on Linux where there is no hardware acceleration for video in the web browser.
- boomboomsubban 5y ago>This is especially useful on Linux where there is no hardware acceleration for video in the web browser Pretty sure there is some now, but I still would rather just watch media in my media player.
- hkt 5y agoI cut chunks out of videos and put them into a home brewed speech therapy application for my son, to teach him to type. (Bonus points is that my 5 year old appears to be getting the hang of bash)
- fwn 5y agoI use youtube-dl for my cloud backup routine. The only YouTube account feature I really use is playlists. I threw all of those in a bat file and ytdl downloads them for me into different folders whenever I start it. Many videos I've downloaded this way aren't available on YouTube anymore. It's definitely worth it.
- xdfgh1112 5y agoA lot of stuff will disappear from YouTube even after 12 months, let alone 5-10 years. If you want to archive your favourite videos then downloading is the only option.
- NaN1352 5y agoAlthough there is now Premium LITE for 7 eur (which I finally subscribed to), listening to music mixes on YT is now atrocious. You just can’t listen to a music mix anymore on YT. They play "ads" except the ads are complete music videos that run for 2-5 mins easily. It’s so dumb. Whatever happened to "soandso new album out now!". You don’t get an excerpt, you get an entire track of some random band, often times quite different genre that the mix you wanted to listen to. It’s so fucking bad, it’s literally like YT says "hey you want to listen to ABC, why dontcha listen to XYZ instead". I wouldn’t mind a short ad for some random album or artist when I listen to music, but now YT as made it almost impossible to listen to a good mix, when you get some OTHER music that starts every 5-7 mins, and runs for 2-3mins average… EDIT : forgot to mention on one music mix (just progressive house dj mix), I’d keep getting an "ad" which is some electricity mini doc in Turkish that runs for 25+ mins. WTF !? Youtube is actually making people want to skip and block ads because their "ad" program is atrocious for users. Thankfully they do have a Premium LITE now but it’s still a bit expensive imho it should be just 5 eur. And wtf I had to Google to find it. Within the apss I was never told that it was available, and clicking through the premium engagement was always showing me the 16+ EUR sub with Google Music etc. But anyway even saying all that I still want to save videos that are invaluable to me, and just disappear randomly or turn "private" after few months/years. What is the point of making a playlist when they show you unavailable items as the months go by? AND, also you have sometimes vdeos that get edited. Like there was a really nice cafe ambiance and because some losers complained about being in the video, the uploader replaced it with a audio-only version. So tldr when you see a video you REALLY like, you should DL it asap. You never know when it gets deleted.
- xchip 5y agoI think we should thank this maintainer for his great job, he made the internet a better place. I really hope he will now be working on some other project that he finds exciting, either that is painting or writing the next cool app :) Thank you!