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I resigned from Twitter

• sadfev 5y ago
  Good riddance, but if history is a guide then an even more awful human being will head that toxic garbage of a company.
  • akudha 5y ago
    When it comes to social media companies, it is all relative. Compared to Facebook, Twitter seems like a saint. They definitely could do more, but remember they did more than other social media companies - warnings on tweets, banning accounts etc. This is not ideal, but I don't think any social media company is going to do more than Twitter did. Sad state of affairs
• bhouston 5y ago
  Twitter under Jack Dorsey has been a huge cryptocurrency promotion engine. I wonder if that remains.
  • mschuster91 5y ago
    Other than adding mandatory 2FA and introducing a 24-hour time delay on account renames and 2 hours on profile name/image changes (which should be a given for any blue-check account), what else can Twitter realistically do given that the other side (crypto pumpers) has literally tons of money floating around?
    • LegitShady 5y ago
      Use some of the same AI they use to moderate other sorts of comments to moderate the crypto scammers.
    • nix0n 5y ago
      > the other side (crypto pumpers) has literally tons of money floating around No they don't, they put it all into crypto. Twitter welcomes bots (and other ways for many accounts to be run by few real people) because they want to increase their Monthly Active User count.
  • boringg 5y ago
    Also just a giant botfest which happens to also pump crypto.
  • space_rock 5y ago
    Bitcoin. He's not a crypto supporter
    • stepanhruda 5y ago
      Yeah he has gone out of his way to speak against ETH.
  • asdfsd234234444 5y ago
    As someone bullish on crypto, I look forward to cleaning up all the spam/scammers on Twitter. I think legitimate integration into Twitter (i.e tipping, subscriptions, cash app, etc) will be powerful.
  • k__ 5y ago
    When I look at the CTO's (who becomes CEO now) tweets it seems they will keep this going.
  • shrimpx 5y ago
    Most of the replies to his resignation tweet are Bitcoin trolls.
• synergy20 5y ago
  So, Trump can be back to use this platform as Taliban and CCP have always been doing?
• lvl100 5y ago
  I personally think Jack is grossly out of touch with reality. Even when it comes to crypto, he refuses to support anything outside of BTC. Twitter is still the best medium for real-time news and information dissemination. Hopefully they can keep that going.
• ethagknight 5y ago
  What does this mean for Square? Does he spend more time there or focus ever more on cryptocurrency?
• busymom0 5y ago
  His tweet the day prior to resigning was: > I love twitter Weird timing. Also I don’t know anyone who actively and daily uses Pinterest.
• ryzvonusef 5y ago
  Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey is expected to step down from his executive role, sources tell CNBC’s David Faber. Twitter stock jumped more than 11% on the news. This is breaking news. Please check back for updates. ---- This whole thing is so bizarre
  • uptown 5y ago
    "This whole thing is so bizarre" Why? He's been a part-time CEO whose focus has clearly been on Square. Having a full-time CEO focused on a company with as high a profile as Twitter makes a lot of sense.
    • enlyth 5y ago
      It seems the stock is up on speculation they will get bought out by someone
      • sbarre 5y ago
        Who would buy Twitter??
        • tata71 5y ago
          The Saudis/SoftBank. Wait.
          • travisgriggs 5y ago
            Or Disney. :)
            • ceejayoz 5y ago
              (They considered it! https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/24/disney-bob-iger-on-not-buying-twitter-i-got-cold-feet.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/24/disney-bob-iger-on-not-buyin...)
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• mathattack 5y ago
  The stock popped 10%. Is this a vote of confidence against him or for whoever has been waiting in the wings? There has been enough agitation against him by the activists that this can’t be a surprise.
  • sbarre 5y ago
    I think people are excited for _any_ change at Twitter right now. They've been making progress in the last year or two but I suspect most people think they could be doing more...
  • koheripbal 5y ago
    Twitter is extremely toxic and divisive, and Dorsey is... the same. People are hoping his removal will allow the platform to mature.
    • johncena33 5y ago
      Twitter is THE social media I am not able to use without letting it affect my mental health. Anytime I logged into Twitter, I came out more angry, bitter and outraged. It's like the whole platform is built around hot takes, dunking, bullying, and outrage. It always baffles me how mainstream media never utters a word how toxic Twitter is.
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      • elorant 5y ago
        Mainstream media has no problem with Twitter because it's not eating their lunch.
        • JohnWhigham 5y ago
          Makes me think of how many traditional media outlets had a lot to say about YouTube being "rabbit holes" and whatnot around election times, but have a lot less to say about them now that Google picked up the pace on censoring content and pruning platform capabilities (removing dislikes being a big one).
• afavour 5y ago
  I have no particular beef with Dorsey but I think this would make sense. He's been CEO of both Square and Twitter for years now and no matter what time you wake up in the morning or however many specials diets you undertake you're not going to be able to give the focus a solo CEO is. I think the bigger issue is who gets to replace him: will it be someone with smart ideas or someone to serve as a puppet of activist investors? I can't find a source right now but I remember at the time Fleets were launched (Twitter's since-removed version of Stories) that the feature was pushed heavily by investors rather than anyone inside the company. If that's true then the next CEO could be a true disaster. EDIT: ah, there we are: https://pxlnv.com/linklog/twitter-fleets-elliott-management/ https://pxlnv.com/linklog/twitter-fleets-elliott-management/, and a deeper read on Elliot Management: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/08/27/paul-singer-doomsday-investor https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/08/27/paul-singer-do...
  • PragmaticPulp 5y ago
    > you're not going to be able to give the focus a solo CEO is. I agree. As much as he tried to justify the dual CEO roles, it never made any sense. It was also maddening to watch him shift to a 3rd focus of promoting cryptocurrency and his own cryptocurrency investments. Hanging on to the CEO role of both Twitter and Square put him in a great position to push both companies toward more cryptocurrency integration, but it never felt like it was being done for the benefit of the users of each platform.
    • b112 5y ago
      but it never felt like it was being done for the benefit of the users of each platform. The point of platforms is not to benefit the users, otherwise, every successful platform has failed. The type of synergy you are describing, is what builds value for the only people which count... shareholders.
    • Cthulhu_ 5y ago
      > it never felt like it was being done for the benefit of the users of each platform. Cynically, I'm yet to see any crypto that benefits anyone but the people that invented it (they benefit the most) and the savvy traders trying to make a buck (and sometimes succeeding at the expense of others).
• tricky 5y ago
  What kind of board allows an announcement like this to happen in such an uncontrolled way? I feel like this is just more evidence that Twitter's board is weak.
  • notyourwork 5y ago
    How would you like it to happen? Twitter schedules a formal press conference to announce it or otherwise?
    • kgermino 5y ago
      Form 8-K filed with the SEC concurrently with a Press Release and interviews announcing his successor and explaining why this will be a "good thing." The 8-K is functionally a legal requirement for this and the rest is just making sure you control the message to reduce speculation which can hurt you.
      • notyourwork 5y ago
        I wasn't sure what was expected to happen, thank you for explaining!
    • ryzvonusef 5y ago
      YES! You don't leak it to a reporter like it's the latest variant of the iPhone. There should have an announcement from the board, a LONG time before markets were to start (ideally end of markets on friday) clearly explaining WHAT is happening and WHY (even if it's a bullshit reason, there should be a reason). It would have allowed markets to absorb the news instead of the NYSE having to halt trading amid the uncertainty.
      • jon_richards 5y ago
        Serious question: What does making an announcement while the market is closed actually do? Are you not just throwing money to the people willing to trade after hours?
• user-the-name 5y ago
  About time. Twitter has been absolutely floundering for years under his control, since he has absolutely no idea why anyone is using the site and has just been throwing random ideas copied from others at the wall to see what sticks (nothing, so far), and cryptocurrency garbage nobody wants.
  • tootie 5y ago
    Not to sound like a Boomer, but I still genuinely don't get what Twitter is for. I actually finally created an account a year ago and most of my follows are pretty high-brow (journalists, various industry experts, some big shots in my outer circle) and I still get almost no value from it. They use twitter to post inside jokes or promos to web content that I didn't have trouble finding without twitter. Maybe 1 out of every 1000 tweets will have an unfiltered take that I can't get somewhere else. Also, the promoted tweets are always way, way off my interests. They look like pigeon droppings on my windshield.
    • dorkwood 5y ago
      What Twitter used to be good for is following a particular niche of people. For example, if you start following just a handful of developers who post content you like, and follow other developers who they interact with and retweet, the idea was that you'd end up with a feed perfectly curated for your interests, made up only of people who post content that you find interesting. Unfortunately Twitter doesn't want you to use their service this way, so they inject other (usually divisive) content into your feed in an effort to increase engagement. Because of this, I'm not really sure what Twitter is for anymore. I guess you could make the claim that it's keeping your finger on the pulse of what random people in the world are talking about at any given moment?
    • AshamedCaptain 5y ago
      Evidently the solution is to create a loginwall so that you're forced to create an account rather than being able to access the content without one. That way Twitter can provide "value".
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• 1cvmask 5y ago
  Maybe they should put a product guy as head or a UI/UX expert who can solve the weird threads issues which occur due to the chronological nature of Twitter. Seems like a quick fix to make Twitters appeal more broader.
• mrkramer 5y ago
  It's too late, damage has been done. Twitter is a mess.
  • tristor 5y ago
    Twitter has always been a mess. Anyone sensible who wasn’t speculating had dismissed Twitter as a platform for serious usage about 5 minutes after it launched.
    • wly_cdgr 5y ago
      ...and hurried back to Hacker News to engage in serious, hyperbole-free discussions with fellow bigbrains? :rolls eyes:
      • tristor 5y ago
        Not necessarily, but the character limit necessarily limits the amount of seriousness and quality within content on Twitter. It's very format necessitates that Twitter is full of vapid and inane content, and driven by pithy outrage inducement.
        • wly_cdgr 5y ago
          Or you could say that the limit forces you to be concise, precise, and vivid. Many of the world's most admired poems would fit in one Tweet.
          • monocasa 5y ago
            Many of the world's most admired poems have had their statements argued about for centuries because they're so vague too.
            • wly_cdgr 5y ago
              So you're saying people have cared about these poems enough that they've formed communities around discussing them for literal centuries? :)
• solmag 5y ago
  Inevitable after that Space.
  • MrBuddyCasino 5y ago
    Many were speculating about his power level. Guess it wasn't as high as people thought.
  • ekam 5y ago
    Which space?
    • cabernal 5y ago
      I'm not sure if this is what @solmag is referring to, but there was a white nationalist AMA space that was appearing under users' recommendations.
      • ngcazz 5y ago
        Is there anything written about this? Failing to Google it
        • cabernal 5y ago
          I might be wrong with what op was referring to though, but if you limit your search to the last 24hr you might find something.
• ryzvonusef 5y ago
  > you're not going to be able to give the focus a solo CEO is How the fuck does Elon do it then? The mf has like four concurrent organizations under his helm. > I think the bigger issue is who gets to replace him: will it be someone with smart ideas or someone to serve as a puppet of activist investors? The rising stock price implies yes. Elliot MG has been desperate to make twitter the next mega app. Expect payment options, return of VIne as a tiktok clone, etc Engagement is key, afterall. Good bye to text, I guess.
  • dang 5y ago
    We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29380373 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29380373.
  • toomuchtodo 5y ago
    > How the fuck does Elon do it then? The mf has like four concurrent organizations under his helm. Tesla = primary concern | SpaceX = Gwynne Shotwell (Prez & COO) | Boring Company/Neuralink ["Labs" projects] = funsies
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    • datameta 5y ago
      Every company he starts/runs is to enable viable Mars civilization. SpaceX = get us there. Tesla = cash cow for SpaceX + Mars ground transportation. SolarCity = energy infra for a Mars colony. Boring = radiation protection for Mars habitats. Neuralink = moonshot cash cow, advancement of neural medicine for Mars colony. Trying to advance/safeguard humanity is the most funsies thing one can do.
      • capitalsigma 5y ago
        If you definition of "X is for Mars" is so broad as to include "brain-computer interfaces just like on Earth, but done on Mars" then yeah I suppose pretty much everything is done in the service of Mars. For example, Google is working on having the best search engine available to use for search on Mars. Facebook wants to build the best social network, for Mars. Etc.
• newaccount2021 5y ago
  its interesting that Jack hovers between two worlds with such opposed politics - Twitter is woke AF while the crypto community is liberatian/pro-2A/pro-markets is this an indication of Jack's political re-awakening? the rebel move in 2021 is to take the red pill...
• thrower123 5y ago
  It's become rather clear that any attempts to "fix" Twitter are sure to degrade it instead. The best thing to do would be to leave it alone in benign neglect, but that ain't gonna happen. C'est la vie.
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• nafizh 5y ago
  People love to bash Dorsey but he had more of a backbone than Zuckerberg in every possible way. And while the game is always about money, Dorsey did try to improve the eco-system in a principled way even if arguably he failed in many ways - this courage was probably there because he was a founder of the company. The new CEO will be more like Pichai at Google or Cook at Apple - only there to make money.
  • fundad 5y ago
    Actually it turns out he was ousted for standing up to Republicans. He's been ousted so Twitter can amplify facists. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-paul-singer-republican-jack-dorsey https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-paul-singer-republi...
  • draw_down 5y ago
    You mean to say you like that he banned Donald Trump. A fine opinion to have of course.
  • throwaway2077 5y ago
    remarkably, those who bash him are the same people twitter has done everything to bend over backwards for. same on reddit, facebook, twitch, etc. people on the opposite side of the privileged class are barely allowed to exist on those platforms - only if they police their speech very carefully to avoid breaking a myriad of vague and unwritten rules, and even then they're still subject to being unpersoned for some perceived offense committed off-platform.
    • astroalex 5y ago
      > only if they police their speech very carefully to avoid breaking a myriad of vague and unwritten rules, and even then they're still subject to being unpersoned for some perceived offense committed off-platform Not sure what you're talking about. Can you provide examples/evidence?
      • throwaway2077 5y ago
• saagarjha 5y ago
  Might be worth updating the link: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1465347002426867720 https://twitter.com/jack/status/1465347002426867720
• gonehome 5y ago
  The tweet of his email: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1465347002426867720?s=21 https://twitter.com/jack/status/1465347002426867720?s=21
• vermontdevil 5y ago
  He announced his resignation of course via a tweet: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1465347002426867720?s=20 https://twitter.com/jack/status/1465347002426867720?s=20
• tinyhouse 5y ago
  News say the current CTO is going to replace him. We'll see how it turns out. Very surprising to me that are going with someone with zero relevant experience. If I were a Twitter share holder I would sell all my stocks today.
• sol_invictus 5y ago
  There are some fantastic fringe right-wing communities I’m going to miss tremendously after the new CEO inevitably starts purging the ”unconventional” content
  • fundad 5y ago
    I don't think that's the direction they're going. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-paul-singer-republican-jack-dorsey https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-paul-singer-republi...
    • swalsh 5y ago
      You think this guy (https://twitter.com/paraga/status/28773976508 https://twitter.com/paraga/status/28773976508) is a stooge for the Republicans?
      • fundad 5y ago
        He is a CEO and is replacing the first person to hold the Republican president accountable after Jan 6. I think that impacts his decision making, working the refs works dude. I think neither he nor Tim Cook are stooges for Republicans but they are scared to look anti-Republican. Serious question, do you think the new CEO is going to be more bold in the face of right-wing criticism than your average CEO? I knew we're not talking about Apple but their last liberal-seeming act was speaking out against a bathroom bill that is clearly unconstitutional; but the backlash shut them up.
  • smt88 5y ago
    You feel that Twitter is an irreplaceable source of fringe, right-wing community? Aren't there a ton of sites that serve that purpose?
    • sol_invictus 5y ago
      Where else can I build a feed of all the different subgroups that exist within the RW spectrum? Please dont say something like Parler
• pohl 5y ago
  This is probably how Paul Singer plans to un-ban DJT.
• cblconfederate 5y ago
  I think twitter is going to be boring without him and die. I hope he leads some new medium or sth
  • brailsafe 5y ago
    Twitter has been boring at least as long as Facebook. I quit once my feed of what used to be casual acquaintances I met at tech conferences turned into an unavoidable stream of rage-bait sanctimonious bs; a long time ago at this point.
• wly_cdgr 5y ago
  Twitter will probably end up being less fun without him. Do we know if he was fired or if this was actually voluntary?
• neogodless 5y ago
  Related: Tweet by Jack confirming... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29381199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29381199 EDIT: Now that the threads are merged, you can ignore this comment!
  • k__ 5y ago
    Also, CTO becomes CEO.
• TeeMassive 5y ago
  He was pretty much CEO in name only at this point, as was pretty much apparent during his Congress testimonies.
• LatteLazy 5y ago
  I have to say I've really liked his hard stance on free speech, though I know this is a pet issue for me..
  • dimgl 5y ago
    You've liked his hard stance on free speech? What stance is that? That some speech is okay and other speech is not okay?
  • h2odragon 5y ago
    His "stance on free speech" is a boot on the neck of any discussion they dont like. Or that matched a poorly crafted regexp.
• riffic 5y ago
  Looks like activist investors are getting their Christmas wish this year. Twitter's not immune from ending up on this list (on a long enough timeline): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_social_networking_services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_social_network...
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  • fluidcruft 5y ago
    They could have ended up on that list with Dorsey in charge anyway.
  • egfx 5y ago
    I think conversely Twitter is the only one that is immune.
    • bingohbangoh 5y ago
      Agreed. Other social networks went defunct because they became irrelevant. Twitter is far from that. More a risk of becoming the next Tumblr.
  • krolden 5y ago
    Are people really using the term 'activist investors' unironically?
    • riffic 5y ago
      Bloomberg and CNN did, last year: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-29/singer-s-elliott-is-said-to-seek-to-replace-twitter-ceo-dorsey https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-29/singer-s-... (previous link paywalled, outline: https://outline.com/gxqsh2 https://outline.com/gxqsh2) https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/tech/elliott-twitter-jack-dorsey-replace/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/tech/elliott-twitter-jack-dor...
    • acdha 5y ago
• echelon 5y ago
  Any speculation as to the reason and timing for this? Twitter was Jack's baby, and he loved it so much that he gave 50% of his Square time to leading Twitter. Jack has so much more to gain from Square from both an equity and Bitcoin maximalist perspective, it's curious why Jack would try to lead two very demanding companies simultaneously. (Not that it can't be done. Elon, Jack, et al. have done it for years.) My thought is that this is Jack returning focus to Square after the recent SQ earnings report miss, slowing growth of Cash App, stock slip (down 20%), and incredibly increased competition from Shopify, PayPal, and now MAGMA. (Microsoft is entering BNPL, Google/Apple/Facebook pay, etc.)
  • antoniuschan99 5y ago
    From the tweet do you think Parag and/or Bret pushed him out?
    • frontman1988 5y ago
      Parag doesn't look like a guy who could push anyone out.
      • antoniuschan99 5y ago
        In that case, Dorsey brought in Bret and he's now become board chair. Whereas Dorsey now has stepped down as CEO. But more importantly, he says he eventually will leave the board?
• wodenokoto 5y ago
  Is there a way to hit link to Twitter images? It’s really difficult to read when you can’t properly zoom and stuff
  • thomasyoung99 5y ago
    https://reachpals.com/stories/2021-11-29/2294204 https://reachpals.com/stories/2021-11-29/2294204
• ghostcluster 5y ago
  MIT Technology Review interviewed the new CEO recently: > Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation. The kinds of things that we do about this is, focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed. One of the changes today that we see is speech is easy on the internet. Most people can speak. Where our role is particularly emphasized is who can be heard. The scarce commodity today is attention. There's a lot of content out there. A lot of tweets out there, not all of it gets attention, some subset of it gets attention. And so increasingly our role is moving towards how we recommend content and that sort of, is, is, a struggle that we're working through in terms of how we make sure these recommendation systems that we're building, how we direct people's attention is leading to a healthy public conversation that is most participatory. https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/11/18/1012066/emtech-stage-twitters-cto-on-misinformation/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/11/18/1012066/emtech-s... Sounds like he advocates an emphasis on how to algorithmically "guide" the conversation and shape public opinion....
  • afavour 5y ago
    I read it differently than "shaping public opinion". The reality is that social media (and Twitter especially) is toxic. That underlying toxicity comes from humans of course, but recommendation algorithms accelerate and highlight it because it leads to high "engagement", and thus more money. These sites already "guide" conversation, just using metrics that can end up being harmful. A social media CEO that's interested in breaking the cycle there and trying to recommend content that's more constructive than inflammatory sounds like a great thing to me. Yes, there are a dozen pitfalls awaiting anyone that tries, but it's still worth attempting.
    • syshum 5y ago
      The problem here is that "toxic" is subjective, what I find toxic and disagreeable may not be the same thing you find toxic and disagreeable. Take for example hot button issue of Gun ownership, I believe it an essential right and extension of self defense, others view any talk about guns as toxic that should be banned. Who's worldview should win? Mine, your's, Twitters? IMO platforms like twitter should not be making the choice as to what is or is not toxic, they should be giving users the ability to curate their feed's.
• joering2 5y ago
  Am I the only one found it ironic he is announcing this on twitter.. yet he has to screen shot the content b/c it would normally not fit into twitter media :)
  • jon_richards 5y ago
    It’s especially funny considering how many companies do sentiment analysis of Twitter text for algorithmic trading.
    • Ekaros 5y ago
      I wonder if they are going to add picture OCR... And how this could be gamed...
  • goatcode 5y ago
    Probably not, but it's more poetic than ironic.
• dcchambers 5y ago
  Happy to see a CTO promoted to CEO, hopefully a signal that Twitter is still committed to growing/incubating the engineering side of the business.
  • MisterPea 5y ago
    I agree, but is Twitter really suffering with any engineering problems? I generally would like to see a CTO come in charge but here's a unique case where someone from product might be more suitable.
    • freediver 5y ago
      Using their API is still a nightmare.
      • DrBenCarson 5y ago
        That's still fundamentally a product problem unless you're having issues with the API's behavior (vs its design)
        • freediver 5y ago
          I agree, just think that a developer-first culture would not allow it to happen.
      • bern4444 5y ago
        Twitter recently rolled out full support for their v2 API along with improvements to the usage policy, and the ability to get started quickly with essential access. What issues do you have with the API?
    • 8K832d7tNmiQ 5y ago
      Their web video player is still horrendously bad and still haven't fix their buffering problem for years.
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• sneak 5y ago
  So did I, after a dozen years on the platform. I won't donate content or attention to a site that decides what I am allowed to read (they censor their search!).
  • smt88 5y ago
    Every website you've ever used decides what you're allowed to read on their site.
    • sneak 5y ago
      My web host is a service. Twitter is a service. I was hosting my own content on Twitter's service, same as I do on my web host.
      • smt88 5y ago
        > I was hosting my own content on Twitter's service, same as I do on my web host. In both cases, you're not "hosting your own content" by anyone's definition of the term. You're paying someone to host it. Anyway, all web hosts have rules aka terms of service aka censorship. It's my right (and Twitter's) to offer a service that has terms, and those terms can include removal of speech that I feel is bad for my business. This is a basic freedom of association -- I don't have to do business with people whose speech I don't like, and I certainly don't have to broadcast it. Arguing that Twitter must be a neutral host is like arguing that Uber or Airbnb can't ban customers for saying racist things (both have) or that Facebook must accept 100% of ads. If you are conveying someone's speech as a service as part of a for-profit, private business, you can choose not to convey that person's speech for any reason. There is no demand in the US (Constitutional, statutory, or otherwise) that a private entity broadcast the speech of another entity. In fact, that's a violation of the broadcaster's First Amendment rights (as repeatedly upheld by liberal and conservative justices, over and over again).
  • smoldesu 5y ago
    Wait till you hear what your Macbook thinks of you!
• option_greek 5y ago
  I expect the Trump ban to be overturned starting next year. And also Twitter to become lot more neutral. Whatever someone's political beliefs might be, it is bad for business when you alienate good number of users and also result in encouraging other alternatives to the already crowded social media space. And shareholders expect this which is why shares are up today.
  • smt88 5y ago
    I wouldn't assume the Trump ban is a net negative for Twitter. Banning divisive accounts tends to make a site less unpleasant. I think you're right, but it's debatable whether it's a good business decision.
• Shadonototra 5y ago
  thanks to the shareholders, i guess twitter will become facebook in no time!
• danschumann 5y ago
  Twitter made me feel: some combination of violated, indignant, numb, inferior, empty, powerless, disappointed, embarassed, furious, annoyed, and infuriated.
  • b20000 5y ago
    sounds like facebook
  • BurningFrog 5y ago
    In many ways, Twitter is as life itself.
  • leesec 5y ago
    Cool. It mostly made me happy
    • danschumann 5y ago
      If I had to include happiness emotions... I guess getting some of the videos made me feel valued a bit, maybe thankful now and again? Maybe feeling successful if I pwned a pleb, but these are empty thrills.
  • unclebucknasty 5y ago
    Sounds like you had the political/current events Twitter experience. It's pretty much tailor-made to evoke all of those emotions.
  • dnautics 5y ago
    I used to feel that way, but I aggressively moderated who I follow in a purge, and being selective about who I add as follows. It feels like it's easier to marie-kondo people I don't care for anymore in twitter since there's little-to-no-expectation that I know anyone on twitter, and for me, anyways, twitter is a much more pleasant experience than any other social network has been.
    • tills13 5y ago
• hsbxv 5y ago
  Look at all these Indian CEOs. Cleaning up the white man mess.
• mikepurvis 5y ago
  Good for Bret Taylor— he's had quite a career over the years, with being an architect of Google Maps, then founding FriendFeed, being acquired into Facebook and ending up in senior leadership at Salesforce and Twitter.
  • ohmanjjj 5y ago
    Bret Taylor will one day run for President
• ChuckMcM 5y ago
  It will be interesting to see how Twitter changes as a result. Twitter with selective following and setting your timeline to 'time order' creates a pretty good environment for me. It feels like the equivalent of living in only a few chosen 'subreddits' rather than getting the full frontal reddit experience.
  • cblconfederate 5y ago
    Same. It's a handy RSS replacement. Or a telegraph office
  • LegitShady 5y ago
    Long ago I made a reddit account with the first suggested name after the one I asked for was 'taken', disabled following all the subreddits, and then selectively added subreddits specific to my hobbies. I don't see anything that normally hits the front page, everything I do see is somewhat relevant to me, and it basically deletes all politics from what is presented. By far the best reddit experience possible, I think.
    • 8ytecoder 5y ago
      Mind sharing a few interesting ones?
      • riffic 5y ago
        mind sharing what you're into?
      • LegitShady 5y ago
        they're literally my personal interests. Find smaller subreddits related to your personal interests. If you don't like the same things I like my subreddits are unlikely to be interesting to you. The whole point here is to get rid of the all of the default subreddits, since they become garbage once they become default no matter what, and then find things that you're actually interested in that aren't default and thus not full of 'normies' who ruin most of reddit. There was a time before reddit got huuuuge that most of it was pretty ok, but that time was years and years ago. Now there are just niche subreddits of quality and an ocean of garbage.
• vincentmarle 5y ago
  Isn't it ironic that the CEO of Twitter has to announce his departure in a screenshot?
• abdel_nasser 5y ago
  i remember jack on the JRE podcast having a debate with a right-wing journalist. he was put into the position of trying to deny that twitters moderation favors far-left narratives. its emblematic of the role of CEO because i have always imagined that the true challenge of being the CEO of a top company is to be stuck between honesty and the company. jack wanted to say that yes of course the moderation skews left because to do otherwise would threaten the solvency of the company. but to say it out loud would make it all redundant. a thousand people think that if only they ran twitter they would put an end to X. no you wouldnt. and i would guess that jack has gone through more than most of us could imagine.
• teekert 5y ago
  You’ve got to love that first response :) where’s that person going now then to release his knee jerking anger, one wonders.
• cblconfederate 5y ago
  So now like 3 of the worlds most prominent tech cos are led by Indians, if i m counting right?
  • throwaway158497 5y ago
    yes. I even went to same colleges as these guys. And Here I am sitting in daily standup hoping the company won't lay me off while I am on H1B.
• FpUser 5y ago
  I sometimes read a post in Twitter when getting a link. Other than that my usage of Twitter is the same as of FB and the likes - zilch.
• tfang17 5y ago
  Odds are Jack does something in Web3 next?
• spion 5y ago
  Twitter and other social media are probably the biggest problem of our time. By providing simple rules of information flow: small amount of content, retweet, followers) and rewards (likes), they've created the most efficient engines for finding and spreading novelty at the expense of everything else. There are no incentives to improve accuracy, increase thoughtfulness, paint nuance. Fact checking gets lost in the wind. The environment is essentially one designed for brain viruses, where whether you click RT (after thinking around 5 seconds about it) determines the Rt. The most superficially convincing, novel looking and emotion inducing content wins. You can get your misinformation in two flavors: deliberate disinformation by grifters, or accidental misinformation, sometimes by real experts who (like everyone else) make a sensational mistake that gets super amplified. The worst bit is that social media is becoming the primary source of news for most people today. The results have been nothing short of catastrophic. The new CEO has quite a bit of work in front of them. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6380/1146 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6380/1146
  • sAbakumoff 5y ago
    Yeah, feeling of novelty causes a dopamine spike, but shortly afterwards the level is back and we feel like they need more new stuff. Mindless purposeless scrolling may last hours and hours. Twitter is bad, but Tik Tok is the worst. Remove all this stuff from your phone and read HN instead. Here you at least should focus on sophisticated comments like yours!
    • drjasonharrison 5y ago
      Please don't use dopamine to explain addictive/repetitive behaviors. It's like blaming your eyes for finding the button to click. It's more complex. https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/women-who-stray/201701/no-dopamine-is-not-addictive https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/women-who-stray/20...
      • hellbannedguy 5y ago
        Plus most medical doctors know modern Psychiary, and the brain, are still a mystery. Psychiatry is art. Yes all medicine is an art, but psychiatry takes tie cake.
• MichaelMoser123 5y ago
  I am curious, will Trump now get his twitter account back? (getting my popcorn ready)
• artembugara 5y ago
  I remember this joke from Twitter: "Startup idea: Twitter with full-time CEO" Well, some things come true.
• cortexio 5y ago
  good. i feel like your track record of political bias was too damaging to the company. Sure it brought in alot of money, but i dont think it's a good longterm strategy.
• rubyist5eva 5y ago
  Twitter is just a heaping cesspool, he should pull the plug on his way out.
• pvsukale3 5y ago
  Unrelated: I really liked the "Hi mom!" at the end of the letter. To be one of the co-founders and CEO of global tech co, and to say "Hi mom!" at the end of the your publicly shared resignation letter is such a big flex. I understand his mom must already have been very proud of him, but this hit different.
  • pram 5y ago
    Yeah also a big flex saying the company you just quit should be the most transparent (but not during my tenure of course)
    • the-pigeon 5y ago
      Haha yeah. What an asshole move.
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• Tycho 5y ago
  Prediction: more censorship and narrative protection incoming.
  • crocodiletears 5y ago
    This is my concern as well. Twitter already has significant issues with this. But based on Dorsey's Rogan appearances I get the impression that he was never entirely comfortable with playing the arbiter of truth/acceptable content outside of high profile cases. He deferred to his trust and safety team most of the time, though you can still find a lot of enclaves that a platform like facebook might have preemptively purged. His successor could very well be much more aggressive in this respect.
    • MarkLowenstein 5y ago
      It is likely that the censorship and massaging of visibility is done by a team composed largely of ideological activists. Dorsey as a founder and leader would have the sense of ownership that would allow him to push back on that. I would expect that team to steamroll over the new CEO because his ownership is weaker.
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• thedudeabides5 5y ago
  Twitter killed my four year relationship.
  • j0ncc 5y ago
    what happened?
  • _nickwhite 5y ago
    You graduated and had to get a job?
• dingosity 5y ago
  meh.
• streamofdigits 5y ago
  This surely signals the end of an era. Not sure i) if there will be an NFT of the resignation tweet in the manner of the first tweet? [0] and ii) if the future will be "better" than the past in any meaningful way... The stock market reaction suggests it will be not. [0] https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/23/tech/jack-dorsey-nft-tweet-sold/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/23/tech/jack-dorsey-nft-twee...
• Waterluvian 5y ago
  So is this one of those, "the board fired me and let me "quit" on my own terms" emails? I skimmed it and I don't see any substance, just the usual platitudes.
• bob332 5y ago
  He will go down in history as the creator of a truly evil and potential humanity destroying platform
  • afavour 5y ago
    We’re talking about Dorsey here, not Zuckerberg
    • spiderice 5y ago
      There is room for two with that title
    • rossdavidh 5y ago
      Yeah, should read "He will go down in history as _a_ creator of a truly evil and potential humanity destroying platform"
  • dbbk 5y ago
    With a 200M MAU? I think you're thinking of Facebook.
• TheRealDunkirk 5y ago
  This feels like the Gates/Ballmer transition, and I think it will have the same effect on the world/IT: massive increase of integrations, profit, and assimilation, at the expense of end-user satisfaction.
  • avrionov 5y ago
    It looks very different. Twitter CEO is replaced by the CTO how has a phd in Computer science from Stanford. Ballmer was running sales and support in Microsoft.
• FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
  Smart. Leading Twitter was like riding a tiger; he got off before it ate him. Notably, he left well before the 2024 election season. He'll face a lot less political pressure now.
• servytor 5y ago
  I have never liked Twitter because for a long time I thought it was a platform that enabled people to scream crazy things into the void (I have been thinking this for the last 7-10 years). I mean either you share links to long-form content, or source an opinion, or you are contributing nothing to a discussion.
• nickysielicki 5y ago
  I always liked Dorsey after he went on JRE. I really don’t like the way they kicked the president off Twitter but Jack seemed to have honest intentions and I was willing to give him a pass. He created a monster and he was doing his best to point it in the interest of hard principles rather than business or political interests, or at least, that’s what he said. Unfortunately so much of the coastal intelligencia and Obama-era political class have been allowed to usurp so much power in tech, especially in social media. They’re calling the shots, to the point where Dorsey wanted to do better and couldn’t win. Them’s the brakes. I predict Twitter will die a death of irrelevancy sooner than we think, given that Dorsey was fighting and failed. Nobody is interested in playing in the Twitter Commons Playground if it can’t stay fresh and neutral.
• jcun4128 5y ago
  random rant: was annoyed with the "Twitter will use BTC" then days later "nvm"
  • twodayslate 5y ago
    You can tip via the Bitcoin network https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/bringing-tips-to-everyone https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/bringing-...
    • jcun4128 5y ago
      that's cool looks pretty easy to use It's interesting the handoff though eg. cashapp or something else vs. directly through Twitter yeah... there's all kinds of things to consider managing money yourself
• SavantIdiot 5y ago
  Ironic that his very own medium is insufficient to convey enough information, so he has to post a picture of a document. smh.
  • williamtrask 5y ago
    The medium supports images so I’m not sure this critique is valid.
    • gcthomas 5y ago
      Pictures of text support the OP and really annoy me.
    • tacker2000 5y ago
      Yes but a screenshot is clearly not the best way to convey the information of an email. You cant search it, screen readers cant read the text, you cant zoom it properly if you have bad eyesight, etc…
    • _whiteCaps_ 5y ago
      Visually impaired people using a screenreader won't be able to read it.
      • sillysaurusx 5y ago
        Not entirely true. My blind friend encourages me to annotate screenshots whenever possible. It's just a pain, because you have to remember to do it as you tweet (you can't do it later), and only you can do it (why not crowdsource it?)
      • Ajedi32 5y ago
        Can screen readers still not read text in images? Years ago I could understand that being a problem, but now? If that's still true then it seems to me those screen readers could really use an upgrade. My phone has been able to copy text out of screenshots flawlessly for years. I do agree with the overall point though that images are a suboptimal way of conveying text.
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• hackbinary 5y ago
  He quit so he could have better management run the company he owns and so he can enjoy his money. His move is the ultimate founder/rich playboy move. Maybe he will buy that magazine.
  • davedx 5y ago
    What? He's still CEO of Square. One public company keeps someone plenty busy enough
• mjamil 5y ago
  I'm in a post-Thanksgiving charitable mood, so thank you, Jack. The execution hasn't been perfect (as has been commented on ad nauseam), but Twitter is the closest to a worldwide-accessible [1] Speaker's Corner [2] I know of, and that - despite all the completely valid criticism - is a valuable public service: mediating access to information has been the defining tool of control for those in power pretty much since civilization began, and I, for one, will always pick an imperfectly moderated cesspool over the prior status quo where a church or a government told me what's true and what to think. FWIW, you've also championed transparency and decentralization for your platform more than any other SV social media titan [3]. [1] If you have access to the Internet, that is. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speakers%27_Corner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speakers%27_Corner [3] https://twitter.com/jack/status/1204766078468911106 https://twitter.com/jack/status/1204766078468911106
  • stcredzero 5y ago
    Twitter is the closest to a worldwide-accessible [1] Speaker's Corner [2] I know of Far, far, far from it! They actively suppress information they do not like, while giving reasons for it that are transparently double standards.
  • Dumblydorr 5y ago
    Has mediating access to information been the defining tool of control for civilizations? Maybe in tyrannical, despotic societies that is true, but those don't allow Twitter today via firewalls, so that's mostly a moot point in this thread. I'd say the sword and the coin have both been far more controlling than limited information spread. What of free society? Is the government of the USA, UK, or other "enlightened" societies throughout history relying upon censorship and denial of information? I think they're moreso allowing moneyed interests and plutocracy to have lobbying and backdoor dealings, they can easily ignore the public square most of the time. I just don't see Twitter piercing the armor of entrenched interests that well. In contrast, I do see it degrading and toxifying democratic discourse, making us less resilient and more divided. That's anti-thetical to a free society in my view.
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• zxipp 5y ago
  I can't even imagine what kind of lovecraftian horror will arise to take Jack's place at Twitter.
• jokethrowaway 5y ago
  First he shared Rothbard's "Enemy of the State" and now he's resigning from Twitter, one of our censor-happy tech overlord... I'd love to know what goes on in his head besides the PR crap he's posting.
• yhoneycomb 5y ago
  The irony in the fact that his resignation tweet was an image of text, designed to get around the character limit, was not lost on me. You want Twitter to be the most transparent company? Maybe start by making it accessible to the visually impaired by not posting images of text.
• snarkypixel 5y ago
  There's zero explanation in the email for why he resigned. He's re-iterating the point that the company is fine moving forward with the rest of the board, the new CEO and the existing team, but no actual reason as to why he left.
  • GabeIsko 5y ago
    Honestly, does he really owe the public a reason? I am no Jack Dorsey fan, but it would be unusual for any CEO of even a moderately successful company to expose any internal business with the public.
    • checkyoursudo 5y ago
      He probably realistically owed the public (or shareholders) an explanation of how he could justify being CEO of two companies more than he owes an explanation of why he left one of them.
  • tinyhouse 5y ago
    When a CEO leaving the same day the news come out, it means it wasn't his decision.
    • at-fates-hands 5y ago
      I was digging around this morning and found this from 2020. You think he was just feeling the heat lately and wanted out? Or has this been in the works from opposing forces for a while now? A billionaire Republican megadonor has purchased a "sizable" stake in Twitter and "plans to push" to oust CEO Jack Dorsey among other changes, according to new reports, raising the prospect of a shocking election-year shakeup of the social media platform that conservatives have long accused of overt left-wing political bias. Paul Singer’s Elliott Management Corp. has already nominated four directors to Twitter's board, a development first reported by Bloomberg News, citing several sources familiar with the arrangement. The outlet noted that unlike other prominent tech CEOs, Dorsey didn't have voting control over Twitter because the company had just one class of stock; and he has long been a target for removal given Twitter's struggling user growth numbers and stock performance. Aside from these two paragraphs the rest of the article is a lot of speculation and some quotes from people who've been against Twitter for some time: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-paul-singer-republican-jack-dorsey https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-paul-singer-republi...
• surfingdino 5y ago
  He's left to focus on his ideas for making money with Bitcoin. Compared to crypto, Twitter is just not very exciting.
  • agumonkey 5y ago
    a few videos of him chatting with "investors" are on youtube et al he seems also a bit into the transhumanist narrative
    • trevyn 5y ago
      Can you share a couple of the better links?
      • agumonkey 5y ago
        I forgot which one I saw but it's in there https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jack+dorsey+elon+musk https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jack+dorsey+elo... somewhere it's interesting to hear them chat but don't expect deep stuff, it's rich people having fun about markets and futures
  • adh636 5y ago
    I don't know him personally so I could certainly be mistaken, but from listening to him speak/write and based on his charitable giving I don't get the impression at all that Jack is motivated by riches. I think he is genuinely interested in Bitcoin as a tool for advancing humanity. I also don't get the impression he is interested in 'crypto'. I guess it remains to be seen though.
    • blocked_again 5y ago
      Yeah. I think apart from that he knows how painful is to work with the current payment systems given the trouble they had to go through to get credit card companies work initially with Square to give their card readers for small businesses.
• butMyside 5y ago
  This is the world realizing there’s little novel data inside these noisy black boxes; just noisy people easily distracted by screens like the TV generation. Investors want to cash out before things implode, if they can. Jack wants people connected and gets that’s all it’s about. The attention economy is dying off as we learn what it means for privacy. The big social brands are going to fade like Best Buy and circuit city as kids grow up never being allowed on Twitter and Facebook (mine aren’t and won’t be allowed to until they’re 18); we have Plex and that’s all I’m going to say about that :) Facebook -> Meta started me thinking this way and this has me even more convinced. The daily use cases of our gadgets is well established emotionally. The honeymoon is over.
• gonational 5y ago
  Censoring speech is completely counter to everything this country was built on. Every corporation doing this, YC included, is plainly undermining our freedom of speech. Using the public square exception, while also censoring and editorializing, creates a moral hazard, wherein the offending corporations are are actually publishers that ate not responsible for the content they publish, yet they are benefitting from it. There are no "community standards". There are corporate rules and censorship. We are not a community if we can't have free speech. We are subject to a corporation that is publishing and benefitting our content, subject to their terms and political beliefs.
  • ciabattabread 5y ago
    Twitter is a private platform that has a 1st amendment right to exercise editorial control about what happens to their own platform. Same for a blog with a comment section, a restaurant review service, a moderated forum about tech news, an image sharing service. It shouldn't matter how large a corporate entity is. Same for the cable news networks. Same for newspapers and magazines.
    • gonational 5y ago
      Correct. But then they cannot enjoy the protections that come with being a "Public Square". You don't get to choose "OK I'm going to be a publisher/editor of content, but I will enjoy the protections of being a Public Square". Currently all of these companies are breaking the law, it's a known thing, but nobody is doing anything about it, same for the Logan act and many other laws that we have that are broken all the time and nobody enforces them. If you're a publisher the size of Twitter of contact, then it's much harder to create a monopoly, because you need to spend countless millions of hours per week editorial editing content to make sure that none of it is illegal/defamatory/etc. Having the protections of a public square well only pretending to actually be one is fraud.
• scrubs 5y ago
  From the first comment in Twitter feed re: abandoning twitter for Pinterest, we got to start a new meme: Humor HN: I knew <software_name_here> when it used to rock-n-roll. I knew <software_name_here> when it used to to the pony. to tally software that started great but alas died on the vine.
• revskill 5y ago
  Still remember first time i used Twitter, seems so slow due to Rails and decided to go away. Then about 2 years later, the site became very fast which kept me stay. It seems Twitter team is one of the most responsive dev team that i've seen.
  • baby 5y ago
    What's the stack now?
    • peoplefromibiza 5y ago
      JVM (Scala)
• wheelerof4te 5y ago
  Great. Now resign Twitter.
• rexreed 5y ago
  I remember spending a summer on the Twitter campus and the whole time I was wondering - why the heck does Twitter need all these employees (5500 as of last count [0])? The functionality hasn't budged much in years. I get the need for IT ops to keep stuff running (especially since failwhale days). But honestly, I never got why Twitter couldn't do with 1/10 the staff they have / had. I hope this great resignation wave continues across the company. [0] https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TWTR/twitter/number-of-employees https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TWTR/twitter/numbe...
  • taurath 5y ago
    Automated ad networks still require a lot of engineering and relationship management
    • rexreed 5y ago
      What's the usual ratio of engineering / relationship management per ad dollar revenue?
      • oceanplexian 5y ago
        Investors have priced the company at a market cap of $36.8 Billion, so approx. $6.8M per employee. I guess you could subtract their assets and IP but I doubt it will change the figure much.
        • rexreed 5y ago
          That doesn't make sense. Employees per revenue is not measured by market cap, but by revenue. Revenue was $3.7B as last reported. So you're 10x off by that measure. Also, not all employees are engineering and ad relationship management.
    • ksec 5y ago
      I would have thought even 2000 engineers on Ad Network is still pretty insane. And their Operating Expense keeps growing with Gross Profits.
• ldehaan 5y ago
  More people need to quit twitter. The employees should all quit if their owners won't convert to a 501-c3 and submit to a large community elected board. Otherwise this will just be the tool of our destruction. Censorship should be censored, it's not healthy and so there should be a censorship board dedicated to censoring censorship at <social media platform>. Or just stop telling people what they can see and hear, Twitter is the new Facebook, i quit Facebook 6 Years ago and now it's the fogey platform, they're even rebranding like a grandmother dying her hair. Soon twatter will be the fogey platform and facechuck will meta itself out of existence. Good riddance. IRC is dead, long live IRC!
• simonebrunozzi 5y ago
  A few reflections on this announcement. 1) Remember that CEOs of public companies are essentially unable to say what they think or want. The cost of doing it is being sued for damages, having to spend countless hours with lawyers, etc. Jack might think X, but he's only allowed to say Y, and he doesn't want to go beyond that because he doesn't want to fight that fight. Only people in a close circle really know what's going on, and it's most certainly not random people on the Internet (or HN). 2) Also, consider that Twitter, and perhaps Facebook (sorry but I don't give a sh*t that its new name is Meta), are really difficult companies to run, especially if you'd like to do some public good, as opposed to just maximizing returns. There are so many things that can go wrong, so many other things that will set your company on fire without warnings, and that doesn't give people the time to think strategically on how to tackle certain difficult scenarios. Twitter and Facebook essentially control most of the public discourse these days; never seen such amount of power in the hands of a few companies. 3) Despite common opinion, I actually think that Twitter (unlike Facebook) has done more good than harm. Why? Because it has essentially enabled an incredible explosion of "voices" that can be heard (err, read) all over the world. 4) Yes, we can think of countless ways to make Twitter better, but remember that Twitter is not run by Jack Dorsey, nor that other companies are run by their CEOs. Companies are run by boards, which means, by large funds with controlling interest in these companies. Even a well-intentioned CEO has to fight against many things his/her board want. And unlike enlightened CEOs, enlightened boards are essentially a very rare creature, almost never seen on planet Earth (IMHO). 5) You might think I'm defending Jack, perhaps I am, but it might be because hatred is really easy to dispense, while trying to be balanced in your judgement is really hard, and perhaps the conversation about Twitter should benefit from cooler heads, as opposed to quick slogans.
  • GabeIsko 5y ago
    I don't think it is valid to say that the difficulty of running large successful companies buys moral leeway for their CEOs. They get payed the big bucks for a reason, let's hold them responsible.
  • bad_username 5y ago
    > it has essentially enabled an incredible explosion of "voices" that can be heard Very controlled, curated, and politically corrected explosion. "Very lively debate within allowed spectrum".
• a-dub 5y ago
  so the stock jumped like ten percent on this news... why? are they going to bring trump back? that would be horrible.
• bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  Ha, ironic that his long text is a screenshot, hardly readable on mobile. What an excellent demonstration of the platform he built! /s He should've done a sentence a tweet and threw a mention to threaderapp at the end...
• busymom0 5y ago
  Question for those who use/don't use Twitter and Reddit: Twitter feeds seem more oriented towards a specific person whereas Reddit seems more oriented towards a specific topic. Which one do you think works best for you? What would you change?
• ksec 5y ago
  So the The Great Resignation in US is real. But He is still the CEO of Square.
• authed 5y ago
  LoL... his tweet was too long so he used a screenshot of it?
  • Ekaros 5y ago
    How come 280 characters isn't good enough. Or really should have done it in 140 as they intended...
• rootsudo 5y ago
  Doubling down on bitcoin/financial payment/payment gateway. Smart.
• theduder99 5y ago
  the guy responsible for these gems is the new CEO? "If they are not gonna make a distinction between muslims and extremists, then why should I distinguish between white people and racists." — Parag Agrawal (@paraga) October 26, 2010 “Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation,” said Agrawal. “The kinds of things that we do about this is, focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed.”
• egberts1 5y ago
  In short, Twitter Board of Directors fired Jack upon the advice of Paul Singer.
• stereoradonc 5y ago
  Good for both: Twitter and Jack.
• tanbyte 5y ago
  High time
• erik_p 5y ago
  Coincidence? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/29/paul-singer-elliott-management-twitter-jack-dorsey https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/29/paul-sing...
  • consumer451 5y ago
    Oh wow, I had no idea. So if it's not a coincidence, does this mean that twitter will host the seditious ponderings of the 45th President again? Strictly from a business pov, that couldn't be good for stability.
    • hunterb123 5y ago
      Doubt it, they just announced a citizen journalism ban. Seems like Dorsey was standing in the way of some censorship and the board replaced him. People documenting riots like Andy Ngo will be the first to go.
      • consumer451 5y ago
        The article mentions a Republican activist investor. Why would someone active in right wing circles push for banning someone doing what Ngo is doing?
        • hunterb123 5y ago
          That's one new investor. The current board is who pushed Dorsey out. It seems like that article is just a misdirection piece. Not surprising from The Guardian.
• adam_arthur 5y ago
  Anyone following Twitter's monetization journey? Seems like they've taken forever to build an actually decent business out of the platform, despite widespread use.
• Simon_says 5y ago
  Me too, Jack, me too.
• TedShiller 5y ago
  and? I’m genuinely curious why this is relevant or important
• wbharding 5y ago
  I have mixed feelings about the implications for free speech, but in the last 10 years I’ve seen YT comments transition from toxic cesspool to “never was heard a discouraging word.” I started investing in Twitter a few months ago when observing how good they’ve become at selectively hiding tweets that would upset the thread. Twitter is already taking steps to get less unpleasant. Having a thoughtful tech-oriented CEO work on their issues full time ought to go a long way toward accelerating their progress, if Microsoft is any example.
  • nso95 5y ago
    YT Comments are still a cesspool
• steve76 5y ago
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• oneshoe 5y ago
  The great resignation marches on.
• alangibson 5y ago
  I bought some Twitter stock a while ago on the theory that it would be worth a lot more once Jack left because 1. Twitter is the last untapped value in social 2. Jack doesn't know how to monetize it Now I'm very much interested to see if I was right or not.
• agambrahma 5y ago
  So, can we have Twitter with its content transition over to a "public good" and "public service", anytime soon? I am biased here because it's the only place I have any sort of social 'presence or interaction', and care about it more than Facebook, which I don't use, or any other service that stores people's data. I know it's technically possible to "download my content", but that's a poor substitute for a more transparent Twitter, with _easy_ and _open_ API access.
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• arendtio 5y ago
  OT: I am wondering about the 9:05 time. Is this a new thing to start meetings after the full hour? During the pandemic I noticed that many meeting are organized without any break in between. So at my company we tried to set the default end of meetings to X:25 and X:50 but it doesn't seem to help much (as everybody is used to running meetings to the full hour). So I am wondering if setting the start to X:05 might help?