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American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday
- DonHopkins 6y ago"I invented the term Unidentified-Flying-Object-Oriented and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind." -Alien Kay
- continuations 6y agoThe truth is out there.
- Huwyt_Nashi024 6y agoThis will be the usual left wing lesbianic Jews, collaborating with alien species to destroy proud patriotic conservatives. Keep these ultra-Marxist E.T. invaders off our planet.
- andrewflnr 6y ago"Long cylindrical" doesn't even sound like whatever weirdness is going on in the Navy tapes. I'm guessing military experiment that got off track somehow.
- ALittleLight 6y agoDavid Fravor, who I believe is the Navy Pilot that is the public face of the "Navy tapes" you are referring to, described the object as a "Tic Tac" - which is cylindrical. Still, I'd bet on some experimental (or just rare) type of human/American aircraft. Second place theory is that a pilot is making a joke or resigning or something, similar to how a developer might open a sev-1 ticket to tell his soon to be former company that he is resigning. (Although, hopefully "mischievous prankster" is an attitude that is heavily discouraged among commercial airlines pilot)
- CountDrewku 6y agoYes it does since they describe them as "Tic-Tacs" which are in fact round and cylindrical.
- hirundo 6y ago> it looked like a long cylindrical object that almost looked like a cruise missile type of thing – moving really fast right over the top of us. Vaguely Identified Flying Object
- koheripbal 6y agoThe article really jumps to conclusions. This missile shaped and moving like a cruise missile in a part of the US where they test missiles, was probably... a test missile. Especially given all of the hypersonic missile development going on right now.
- thu2111 6y agoI really hope nobody is testing cruise missiles by flying them close to civilian flight paths.
- themodelplumber 6y ago> I hate to say this but it looked like a long cylindrical object that almost looked like a cruise missile type of thing Holy smokes, that would be quite alarming. American Airlines confirms...the radio transmission was from one of their pilots. OK. It will be interesting to see how the 6-month pentagon directive goes. (I personally have no opinion on this, as to weapon or sky dolphins or aliens) One of my pet theories is that there is no big "coverup of the known" with UFOs. Instead it's a coverup of the unknown. We humans have basically built up a pile of experiential-scientific debt, due to leftover 20th century "don't look into it, don't ask questions" psychology which was rampant in world militaries and governments. If there's a UFO coverup, it's likely a natural human coverup due to leftover human evolutionary speedbumps like the delayed-frightened animal response. One specific example: “There’s no doubt it was something beyond anything we know or understand. […] I have concerns, but I don’t think we can do anything about it. I think this is beyond us. So: Quit worrying about it.” --Lt. Colonel Charles Halt, USAF, who actually experienced the Rendlesham Forest incident (Can you imagine a military leader with similar psychology managing a department of UFO research?) Another researcher's take: “…not only is there a UFO coverup, but they [government / miltary] simply have no idea what they are. They really don’t.” --John Greenwald IMO we should train our elected and appointed leadership to look into things--otherwise in many cases they will refuse to do so when their subjective leanings are calling the shots. This is basic, foundational strategy for contingencies...
- low_common 6y agoWhat is your conclusion here/what are you saying. Are you claiming this could be extraterrestrial?
- vulcan01 6y agoNot the OP, but sometimes I wonder whether some of these events are effects of testing by foreign militaries, and the DoD wants to hide knowledge of foreign military technology (because maybe they're trying to copy it).
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- gavin_gee 6y agojust Elon commuting to work
- geocrasher 6y agoI think the proper term here is "Unidentified Flying Object" for a reason. The pilot clearly said it looked like a cruise missile. The notion that "Unidentified = Alien" is rather far fetched. The acronym should be more accurately called "Undisclosed Flying Object".
- imglorp 6y agoAlso the most straightforward explanation. UAVs and ALCM's can be dropped from high altitudes and have hundreds of miles of range and all look very similar, plus who knows what they're developing. The whole Southwest has plenty of military airspace and their toys don't always play nice with commercial air traffic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-launched_cruise_missile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-launched_cruise_missile
- jandrese 6y agoIt's a huge mystery how an airline pilot could possibly see a cruise missile shaped object right outside of the White Sands Missile Range. Probably aliens.
- themodelplumber 6y agoAre there cruise missiles that operate at those altitudes? Seems like "sitting duck" height for a cruise missile.
- ceejayoz 6y agoAltitude fits the mission. If you're throwing Tomahawks at the Taliban, you'll get longer range from a higher altitude approach, with little risk of being detected let alone shot down. If you're trying to hit Moscow, by all means, try to avoid radar by going 50 feet off the ground.
- mbg721 6y agoEither there's military activity that the military doesn't want to talk about, or extraterrestrials consider green chile a delicacy that is otherwise unobtainable in the universe. Both seem equally plausible.
- batmaniam 6y agoHow come aircrafts are not equipped with color video for later visual confirmation? If a pilot claimed something, we can at least see what they are describing as well, and maybe more details that they didn't catch with video. Also are commercial pilots not allowed to carry smartphones? Did the pilots not record outside the cockpit window with their phones? Hearing of this UFO is pretty exciting, and it would be even more exciting to have actual photographs of it from official sources.
- Ralfp 6y agoTracking cameras on civilian passenger plane seems like a whole lot extra stuff for operator to maintain and service compared to the benefit of capturing an UFO pictures once every few months.
- salawat 6y agoBecause that would make a civillian passenger transport indistinguishable from a recon asset. You know what happens to recon assets that frequent hostile airspace, don't you? There are legitimate reasons to not build functionality into something.
- anigbrowl 6y agoNo it wouldn't. A recon plane would be pointing mostly at the ground rather than in front of above the plane. And you're assuming international flights, whereas there is abundant domestic air traffic in the US that never leaves the country.
- scrose 6y agoI think this is a bit of a stretch. I’ve been on a few transatlantic flights that had live camera feeds under the plane that you could tune into as a regular station on the tv. I’d wager they’re more common on commercial flights than you think.
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- astrea 6y agoAren't the recent explosion in UFO news and declassifications a little strange? Especially the ads Northrup Grumman is running talking about invisible aliens amongst us? Is this some sort of propaganda campaign? Distraction from something else? Enticing public support for the new space force to fluff some politician's pockets?
- ttt0 6y agoI haven't heard the term "conspiracy theory" thrown around too much with this recent UFO stuff, so you might have a point here. You'd think it would be a great propaganda tactic to harp on this and accuse one or the other side of being conspiracy theorists for talking about it, but I haven't seen that so far. It's definitely unusual.
- Detrus 6y agoNew movie coming out https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/harry-reid-ufo-coverup-090047705.html https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/harry-reid-ufo-coverup-090047...
- maxk42 6y agoNorthrup Grumman is running ads about invisible aliens? What? Do you have a link??
- jjcon 6y agoI’m pretty sure they are referencing an article published by a science journalism company owned by Northrop - it was discussing the possibility of alien biospheres. That is waaaay different than what op is suggesting. A bit clickbaity in the title- sure. Ad driven propaganda campaign? Lol no https://now.northropgrumman.com/hiding-in-plain-sight-the-argument-for-invisible-aliens/ https://now.northropgrumman.com/hiding-in-plain-sight-the-ar...
- astrea 6y agoClickbait title with an even stranger ad campaign
- notananthem 6y agoAA confirms it came from an employee not that it was a UFO. LMAO
- jjcon 6y agoThey confirmed the incident so unless the pilot/copilot were just completely fabricating it, they did in fact have contact with a UFO - that doesn't mean aliens - just something unidentified.
- kadoban 6y agoOur senses are not very reliable either. There's room between "fabricating it" and "it really happened". Aren't pilots typically overworked/tired and fairly bored for long streches as well? Seems like likely circumstances for some atypical half-dream or a trick of the eyes.
- not2b 6y agoUFO means "unidentified flying object", and if the pilot didn't know what it was, it was unidentified. Probably some kind of military drone that went off course.
- mbg721 6y agoSometimes a cigar-shaped object near an air-force base is just a cigar-shaped object near an air-force base.
- chovybizzass 6y agoThanks frued.
- Layke1123 6y agoThis is kind of sensational. UFO, but a radar signature of something missile like? Hardly invokes the idea of something extra-solar like the common colloquialism does.
- mensetmanusman 6y agoAliens exist, we just haven’t found them yet
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- jimmysjohn279 6y agoHow is this not on film in 4k stereo in the age of smart phones and dash cams
- themodelplumber 6y agoAt 37K feet, above the airplane, tracking really fast moving objects, in the direction the cockpit is facing, we are expecting a phone or a dash cam? C'mon
- shawnz 6y agoWhy not? Seems like it would be a simple and cheap forensic aid to put cameras covering the field of view of the pilots
- themodelplumber 6y agoWell, is op wondering why this can't be done in the future, or are they asking why it's not on video for us to watch right now? Those are two different questions, your answer addressing the former.
- TacticalCoder 6y agoWhy isn't everything that the pilot can be seen recorded in some black box? If the pilot can see it, certainly a cam from inside the cockpit can see it. I understand that planes aren't cars but... We have cars doing just that: recording absolutely everything in case something unexpected happen. It's 2021: I'm sure airliners could have it at some point. It doesn't look like a feature too much out of a science-fiction movie. And this would settle quite some of the UFO sightings.
- ianai 6y agoI wonder whether camera feeds are included in the black box? This feels more like a tech progression being overlooked in tech upgrades.
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- date227 6y agohttps://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30121/chinas-high-speed-recon-drone-is-rocket-powered-and-all-about-doing-what-satellites-cant https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30121/chinas-high-spee...
- 01100011 6y agoThat's the first thing I thought of when I heard about this. If the US was testing its drones, I think it would prefer to keep them in a restricted airspace. On the other hand, if I were a foreign power looking to flaunt my new drone tech, I'd take it over the area that seems to be rife with sensitive bases. Still, it's most likely this is a US drone on a long range testing mission(or just flying off course due to a sw bug).
- ianai 6y agoAre there reports of any foreign drones flying so far within US borders? I only recall media accounts of stuff like that happening in international waters or borders.
- heavyset_go 6y agoSounds like a situation where if there were any witnesses to such incidents, they're probably under gag orders.
- koheripbal 6y agoFor hypersonic vehicles, restricted airspace is too small. They need to be able to fly into commercial airspace to demonstrate range, guidance systems, etc...
- AtlasBarfed 6y agothedrive also fantasizes about impossible tech that has been patented by some guy who claims to be in the defense department.
- jimmysjohn279 6y agoIt's not aliens IMO. More likely old military surveillance tech that is ready to be declassified.
- snicksnak 6y agoway to go 2021. outstanding.
- earthtourist 6y agoBesides the U.S. Navy videos, there's only one video (out of hundreds I've seen) that has me genuinely wondering if it might be real evidence of an advanced vehicle (aliens or not). It seems to match this American Airpline pilot's description in some ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-91Nobn2xk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-91Nobn2xk Anyone have any guesses? Best guess I've seen was that it was a supply canister or drop tank. But it seems to pause in mid-air at 0:32, travel horizontally, and is over a civilian area where it seems unlikely that something would be dropped. It does look somewhat like a cruise missle but a lot slower.
- jml7c5 6y agoLooks like something near the camera. Note that its movement (particularly at 0:32) is correlated with camera movement. It somewhat resembles the reflection from a strand of spider silk. Maybe something caught on a long strand of spider silk?
- hcrisp 6y agoThe pause at 0:32 looks to me like a parallax effect [0] which would have occurred if the person holding the camera moved slightly right, counteracting the object's natural movement. I don't know why there are no contrails or seemingly no wings but the movement is less mysterious. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax
- micksabox 6y agoLooks like the tic-tac, similar to what Cmdr David Fravor saw off the coast of San Diego in 2004. The well known USS Nimitz incident.
- vnxli 6y agoThere’s an Air Force base in New Mexico. Could totally be something from there. Or aliens I don’t know
- kube-system 6y agoThere's three Air Force bases in NM.
- ianai 6y agoAnd two national labs, and a nuclear waste repository. They basically say “yes” to government projects.
- exporectomy 6y agoMost states have Air Force bases so this could have happened almost anywhere in the US and you could have said the same thing.
- echlebek 6y agoGreat summary of the article right here.
- King-Aaron 6y agoPilot: "We saw a UFO" People: "Theres no such thing as aliens, you're mad, its nothing" > Foreign nation continues to send cylindrical drones into US airspace as no one cares
- keeblers_n_bits 6y agoIt was Dr. Evils’s spaceship!
- mrtnmcc 6y agoJust a rocket booster reentering? These happen regularly especially now that launches are more frequent in US and China. It seems to match up with https://aerospace.org/reentries/cz-11-rocket-body-id-46463 https://aerospace.org/reentries/cz-11-rocket-body-id-46463
- jermo 6y agoThat is a link to Chinese satellite launch mission. Would the booster even be noticeable in the US at aircraft altitude?
- mrtnmcc 6y agoYes, re-entry can survive for the lower velocity orbits all the way to ground depending on debris material and orientation. Air density is 20% at 40k ft, so much more likely to make it that far.
- remir 6y agoI remember a French documentary from a while ago and a helicopter pilot said that he witnessed something similar while he was flying. A large cylinder craft flew past him rapidly and was relatively close to the helicopter to the point that this would have affected it (air displacement?), but nope. It was as if the "UFO" flew inside its own sort of bubble, isolated from the surrounding environment. Flew right past the helicopter as if it was nothing. That's what was the most shocking.
- oceanplexian 6y agoI won’t be able to provide information that other people haven’t already but I have encountered one of these “aircraft”. I own a small light sport airplane and was flying between UT and CA at 12.5k ft and saw one of these pass 1,000ft below me not far outside of Reno. ATC didn’t call it so presumably they didn’t see it on radar. It was exactly as described, small, shiny, cylindrical, no wings, and fast. If I could guess it was doing 500kts in the opposite direction. By the time I pulled out my phone to snap a picture it was gone. If it was a cruise missile it was flying over a populated area and not in restricted airspace or a MOA. Not sure what conclusions to draw other than these things are real and probably more common than people assume. It was not an airliner or private jet I’ve seen plenty of them.
- exporectomy 6y agoI'm wondering how you estimate its speed and distance Wouldn't it look identical to a smaller, slower object closer to your aircraft?
- oceanplexian 6y agoIt’s an educated guess from years of watching and avoiding other airplanes. The reason it drew my attention was the abnormal speed, then I focused in on it and realized it was a featureless cylinder.
- gher-shyu3i 6y agoHow long ago did this take place?
- exporectomy 6y agoDoesn't that mean you assumed it was similar size, speed, or distance as another plane? If you really have no idea what it is, I can't think of any way you could distinguish a large fast distant object from a small nearby slow one. It's too far away for our binocular depth perception to measure distance. I hope I don't sound too critical. I wondered if the thing in the article's story was some small object ejected from the pilot's own plane and he overtook it as it slowed down so it appeared to be moving backwards. Since you had a similar experience, I wondered if there was some other information that helped you judge it.
- jcrawfordor 6y agoI skimmed the original recording posted by the source to find where this happens (it's 1:13:03, you're welcome). The recording is from a scanner and I think either the user was actively tuning it or it was set to scan. You seem to be hearing more than one center simultaneously and things are getting cut off in odd ways. The point is, the recording posted at the linked article is... really all of the context there is. You hear "Have any targets here? We just..." with the beginning of that sentence cut off. You never hear the pilot identify, presumably it was cut off, so I'm not even totally sure how the source identified which aircraft this was. You also do not hear the response. If the transmission was on 127.85 or 134.75 as the author suggests, it was either Borger Low or Amarillo High. They filed FL360 and for the type anyway it was probably Amarillo High, ZAB sector 97. Unfortunately atclive doesn't archive that sector or it seems even any near it. Any chance some other website does?
- MR4D 6y agoHypersonic missile test?
- soheil 6y agoI'm so sick of the term UFO being applied to stuff like this. Even the pilot said it looked like a cruise missile but lo and behold the first conjecture in the article by the journalist is that it could be extraterrestrial and only at the end they say oh yeah it could also just be a military thing since you know there are a trillion military bases right under where it was flying over. I think we need a new term, maybe: Not an Extraterrestrial Flying Object NAEFO, never mind...
- czbond 6y agoI think the term now in use is UAP - Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
- Izkata 6y agoDownvoters - UAP is indeed a term used nowadays: https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2314065/establishment-of-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-task-force/ https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/23... > On Aug. 4, 2020, Deputy Secretary of Defense David L. Norquist approved the establishment of an Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) Task Force (UAPTF). The Department of the Navy, under the cognizance of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, will lead the UAPTF.
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- philliphaydon 6y agoThe pilot said: "it looked like", so it's technically Unidentified. It flew over the top of the plane. So it's Flying though the air. And it wasn't an animal of any sort so it must have been an Object. Sounds like a UFO. UFO != extraterrestrial
- ta8645 6y agoI agree. But your suggested acronym to fix it is a bit over the top. Perhaps: Uninteresting Friendly Object.
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- thomasjudge 6y agoAren't there other possibilities besides military (domestic or foreign)or alien? What about a civilian/hobbyist drone? Wasn't there a to-my-knowledge-unexplained "drone swarm" in Colorado recently?
- nanonan 6y agoOne idea that I've entertained is that they are terrestrial biological entities, like maybe a blue whale or giant squid but more rare and possibly of a shadow biome.
- xauronx 6y agoI was thinking some startup was a possibility. There’s obviously a ton of money to be made by making something go really fast. “Tesla sky teleport can get you from LA to Portland in 40 minutes.” Just sit in this cylinder as we launch you in your personal ballistic missile. We saw a lot of recklessness with self driving vehicles. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar attitude while developing tech like this.
- johnohara 6y agoFwiw, the skies over Arizona were loaded with contrails today. Very unusual to see this kind of volume. All of the aircraft appeared to be heading due west in the direction of Las Vegas (Nellis AFB) and southern Cal. The last time I witnessed this degree of activity was in early 2020, one day after the drone strike on Iranian General Soleimani. The whole sky was a crisscross mesh of expanding vapor. In these circumstances you can easily tell the difference between commercial and military aircraft simply by their speed. Military aircraft haul ass at all altitudes, without exception. Ironic to me that this story appeared on HN today given what I've mentioned. I'm not surprised AA reported a UFO encounter two days ago either. Southwest US skies seem to have become very busy.
- panarky 6y agoWhy would Arizona skies be a crisscross mesh of expanding vapor because a drone in Baghdad assassinated someone?
- johnohara 6y agoI interpreted it as training flights for readiness preparation. Plus, drones sorties were (are?) flown remotely out of Nellis. It is not uncommon to be driving between Las Vegas and Phoenix and have jets from Luke AFB flying training missions overhead at low altitude. A lot of helicopter training is done out here as well.
- reaperducer 6y agoI saw all that, too (I even took a picture of it and make a joke about living on a missile range), and I think you're reading too much into this. Those contrails do not indicate more aircraft. They indicate favorable conditions for the formation of contrails. And I wouldn't call it "very" unusual. It happens about every month or so, and more often at this time of year.
- johnohara 6y agoOne contrail in particular took a sharp turn from the southeast and headed directly for Vegas. Its shape is what made me look up to discover everything else going on. It has been very windy for many months, along with drought conditions, so the skies here have been clear. No monsoon to speak of either. I found it unusual given what seems to be the new "normal" of clear skies the past couple of years.
- pts_ 6y agoIf it comes that close it's a hostile irrespective of origin.
- motohagiography 6y agoThe UFO pilots are figuring out whether they need to wipe us out (again), or let us join the community of space faring species. Challenge is, we need to demonstrate that our cultures can arrive at a specific and necessary ethical conclusion ourselves, so that there could be some shared moral basis on which to engage other species. If we don't get there ourselves before developing advanced propulsion, we're too much of a risk and they press reset.
- dhosek 6y agoIt was just some guy with a jetpack.
- rasengan 6y agoGalactic Federation standard patrol drone. Nothing to see here. Move along.
- barnaclejive 6y agoWhy is everyone arguing about stuff in this thread instead of focusing on the less-interesting but still super concerning fact that something flew "right over the top" of a commercial airplane? Even in the least-interesting case of it probably a US test thing of some kind - wtf is it doing flying in commercial airspace? Can you imagine if it had hit the plane?
- slg 6y agoProbably because "right over the top" can be a 2D descriptor of 3D space. We therefore have no idea how close this object was to the plane. It is entirely possible it was directly above the plane but high enough that it actually wasn't in commercial airspace.
- akouri 6y agoThere is no such thing as "commercial airspace." I think you're confusing Class A with commercial, as that's primarily where commercial airliners fly, but there's nothing saying that military operations can't happen there too, so long as they are IFR
- slg 6y agoI was simply using the terminology OP was using and explaining why "right over the top" doesn't mean there was potential for collision.
- xauronx 6y agoYeah, that’s my question. I’ll assume someone (whether the US government, Elon Musk, or whoever) was testing a rocket of some sort. Why the hell was it in the same area as a commercial flight? I’ll add another stupid human error to my list of things to be afraid of while on a plane.
- derangedHorse 6y agoElon Musk actually commented that he had no idea of this thing's existence on Joe Rogan's podcast
- barnaclejive 6y agoDoes "contact" have a definition I'm not aware of? They didn't communicate with it, and they did not touch it.
- detaro 6y ago"visual contact", "radar contact", ... are used in aviation and military.
- joshxyz 6y agoCant these planes have dashcams come on!
- cheeri0 6y agoI have a hypothesis about UFOs that everyone needs to ponder. You know how they are frequently just simple shapes? Okay well imagine you are making a game and you need an object to act as your player and you don't care what it looks like. The easiest way is to just drop in a primitive shape. So you just drop in a cylinder or whatever because it doesn't matter. I think that might be the kind of thing that's going on with UFO shapes, assuming they are extraterrestrial in origin.
- codycraven 6y agoPondered, I have no idea what you're alluding to.
- erentz 6y agoI think he's suggesting maybe we're in a simulation and the people writing the code are testing in prod.
- baggy_trough 6y agoYou think you're good enough for prod?
- erentz 6y agoSo many more things make sense in that light!
- dleslie 6y agoIt's called a Capsule Container, and it's a common replacement for an AABB or Sphere bounding container when representing avatars.
- noetic_techy 6y agoWhy poo poo this? This is what really irks me when people laugh this stuff off and spout off something about Fermi's paradox without even understanding it. Fermi's paradox only asks simply "if statistics say they are everywhere, well then where are they?" What if the answer is simply: "Zooming all around us and we occasionally see one". Period. The rest is assumption. Fermi's paradox does NOT presuppose contact. That is likely a false assumption. It does not presuppose consistent detection also. Why would they make contact anyways? Didn't Hawking point out that contact is a bad idea for lesser advanced cultures throughout history? Wouldn't extreme clandestine scientific activity be the MOST intelligent thing to do, even the most benevolent? Wouldn't extreme evasiveness and covert activity, even active concealment of both your orgin, existence, and intention be the most species-self-preserving if you knew you weren't "alone out there"? If they are sufficiently advanced, what could they possible gain talking to us that cannot simply be deduced from observation alone? When was the last time you parked your Tesla next to an ant hill and demanded to talk to the queen ant? When was the last time you tried to contact an un-contacted tribe deep in the jungle to announce your existence? None of that seems to pan out so we convince ourselves that it cannot be therefore it must not be based on false assumptions. Even if they were sloppy about concealment like we are I don't think we would even be able to pick up a alien TV station if it was emanating from a planet orbiting Alpha Centari. The signal loss is 1/r^2 unless you direct a focused tight beam dedicated to being detected. And what would you want the governments of the world to tell you if they knew? "Yes, they are here. Yes we know some. Yes they are super advanced. No there is nothing we can do about it sorry they run circles our best stuff. Yeah we also heard a rumor they are taking people in the middle of the night and we don't know why. Sleep tight!" ... Think of the lawsuits! I would say black project aircraft is the only viable alternative theory, but how is that not EQUALLY interesting also given the capability described? Why poo poo it? That's what I don't understand. I don't buy mass hallucinations of the same thing over and over. Its just too consistent. "Where's the video"? Go take a video of the full moon with your phone and tell me if its discernible from a can light on a distant black ceiling. Just my 2 cents. Would love the hear the counter argument.
- joubert 6y agoIt sounds like you’re saying “the absence of evidence IS evidence of an advanced alien civilization (because they’d hide)”. Or do I misinterpret?
- machawinka 6y agoWhenever I see this kind of news pulling the attention of a significant number of smart people I ask what terrible reality we don't want to see or try to escape by injecting us UFO heroin.
- sneak 6y agoI saw (mostly heard) a rotorcraft flying really (but plausibly, for human tech) quite fast with absolutely no lights and no Mode B output about 400-500ft over residential areas a few months ago, about 15-20km WSW from Nellis AFB. I don't think it was more than 2-3 meters across, but it was dark and scale was difficult. It was quite loud, I assume internal combustion but don't know what non-hobby-drone electric rotorcraft sound like. It was about 0100. I assume it was a friendly, but who knows? There's all sorts of shit going on in the sky, legal and otherwise. :D
- henearkr 6y agoCould it be a discarded second stage from a satellite launch, reentering with orbital speed?
- ilyas-shah 6y agoHow long they are going make us fool? These theories have been around a long time now and yet there is no concrete evidence supporting them. If extra terrestrial things wants to contact us or confront us, they would have done it long time ago.
- trustdragon 6y agoIt shouldn't be too hard for an interested private citizen of means to set up a grid og drones that automatically land and recharge and constantly record everything, passing it to a computer system that looks for these enormous objects. I'm sure if it was real and if we wanted to we could obtain decisive visual proof in a way where the public was convinced that was not fraudulent. Like why should we be spending millions of dollars on seti when the corresponding search for these kind of things on earth should be a lot cheaper and easier.
- hackerofhacker 6y agoWhen I was young (back to my primary school time), these UFO stuffs really fascinated me. But nowadays, I've lost interests...
- ilaksh 6y agoI assume it's possible to build a drone using ducted fans.
- ph2082 6y agoMore than 2.7 billion people live in India and China. Someone is always up. How come UFO sightings only reported from westerns countries (USA?) mostly?
- koheripbal 6y agoBecause we are testing hypersonic missiles here.
- harriggg 6y agoHere’s my theory that I haven’t seen anyone else mention. Here in California and specifically where I live (Palos Verdes look it up) we have had video sighting of the “jet pack man”. If you don’t know who it is look it up. That thing flies fast. You may be thinking what does this have to do with something that looks like a missile? Keep reading. Jet pack man was first seen flying by LAX and reported by an AA plane. Later, people in my neighborhood have taken videos of him flying past our cliffs (over the water) Going extremely fast. We have all seen videos of the coast guard finding submarines with people smuggling drugs into the US. In my years of growing up in Palos Verdes, we have had multiple submarine like vessels, skiffs, and other odd marine vehicles wash up on our shores due to tough sea conditions with tons of drugs and even some manned by smugglers which were later arrested. The cartel obviously has tons of money, and to me it would make sense that they are going Ariel with smuggling. It gets harder and harder to smuggle on land across our border and same with sea, due to coast guard being more present than ever on coast lines. I guarantee they have some military grade equipment and are attempting to fly under radar to smuggle goods into the US. Maybe this missile like object drops the packages out of the sky with parachutes attached to certain drop points, who knows. I think this is a more realistic scenario than aliens. This incident did happen over New Mexico which is a place in which a lot of cartel activity happens. Let me know what you think.
- AZ-X 6y agoEnergy level is an indicator to UFOs.
- bobmaxup 6y agoIt is hard to imagine how much time this person wasted by speaking 50 words.