joe_the_user

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by joe_the_user 5d ago
That and "ordinary" prostitution and "sleeziness" aren't important plus ignoring that Epstein wasn't just a pimp, he was very much a human trafficker, in the sense that he effectively coerced women into continu
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by joe_the_user 5d ago
I once did real events on meetup. It has become utterly worthless and finally terminated my membership. Basically, it's really sad since it was once one of the good things online.
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by joe_the_user 5d ago
Worth noting that nothing that could possibly be called the "The Epstein Files" was released and this is how the situation is understood by the public.
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by joe_the_user 5d ago
This more than some cia/mossad front of blackmailing the powerful with horrific acts done to children. IDK, the CIA/mossad pedophile part seems significant. I don't think ordinary people upset at young girls being exploited
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by joe_the_user 5d ago
The Palmer Raids involved mass detention and deportation without trial. These raids were significant because they happened under Federal authority. US repression certainly involved torture and mass murder previously but mostly done locally
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by joe_the_user 6d ago
I think that version of "religion" is implicit in the texts now available but so are several other less benevolent perspective, notably killer AI is strongly believed to be inevitable via the Terminator series. If more powerful AI
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by joe_the_user 9d ago
Is that what's going on? If these things were conscious, then their creators wouldn't be responsible for their actions? That's the crux of the disagreement? No and the passage of mine you quote says nothing like that.
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by joe_the_user 9d ago
I think there are two parts to the question. One is that assigning machines to the category of conscious as it is usually understood would result in many problematic things (things that would be bad for people and animals fwiw). The other i
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by joe_the_user 10d ago
I'd strongly agree there are no non-contradictory definitions of consciousness among those that commonly appear. But it's a category that, despite these contradiction, hasn't become marginal in the fashion of the aether or th
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by joe_the_user 10d ago
That still is saying we trace things back to a specific responsible party who is considered to have free choice. The question is whether an AI company could "raise" a program that would then count as a full adult - which could the
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by joe_the_user 10d ago
Human moral standards are very weighted towards finding a single entity responsible. It's incredibly strong urge. Among those who believe other should be punished for behaving badly, it's important to say the person is the respons
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by joe_the_user 10d ago
Unless you have something exotic, the randomness that's adding to a computer is a combination of how it's configured combined with a pseudo-random number generator. I assume the system adds entropy to the generator regularly but a
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by joe_the_user 10d ago
The idea that determinism and consciousness are incompatible is deeply intuitive to many people. And many other embrace it - you can trace this back to the debates for and against Calvinism. A lot comes down to the way people parse causatio
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by joe_the_user 10d ago
I suspect it's easier to make the assertion that machines aren't conscious than to dive into the problem of most conceptions of consciousness being non-falsifiable. The thing is, most strong proponents of the term consciousness al
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by joe_the_user 10d ago
The founding father were engaging perpetuating the existing dehumanizing system of slavery, not answering any new questions about new things. The thing about new possibly "person" entities that arise - the case of machine intellig
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by joe_the_user 12d ago
I too have a degree in math and it's easy to see some of what's happening as too much of an emphasis on intellectual chest thumping and to little emphasis on showing why understanding the concepts is useful for everyone. I will sa
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by joe_the_user 13d ago
Well, the new models are certainly better at math and at vulnerability finding than previous models. My guess is that while information that gives human-language-based heuristics to understand the world, coding and so-forth is limited, info
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by joe_the_user 13d ago
Doe not following a moral rule imply not understanding it? In this case, many, maybe most humans are "not intelligent". Human can admit it when what they did wasn't moral and so can LLMs. >> Plenty of humans know "
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by joe_the_user 13d ago
Actually, the whole point of the transformers model is that contexts overlap and any seemingly intelligent system has to be able to handle to overlaps. The context of hacking, cheating and education overlap in human reality. Now, loading a
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by joe_the_user 13d ago
Certain animals, usually social species, have a sense of solidarity, morality and fairness. But even in species where this exists, cheating also happens. Both ethics and unethical behavior is adaptive. Notably, present human society has all
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by joe_the_user 13d ago
I don't see what calling these systems "not intelligent" gets you here. Plenty of humans know "cheating is wrong" but still cheat. We can get these machines to say that what they did was wrong after the fact, what d
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by joe_the_user 13d ago
You are being evaluated on your ability to play chess The thing with these models is that given a term, "measure" - "evaluated", say, they pull in all the associations of it. That is, the associations of student taking
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by joe_the_user 13d ago
The hacking model is the aligned-to-you model, sure. It may not be the aligned to someone else model. But there's the problem. As X many people point out, "alignment to humanity" means nothing 'cause some of humanity wan
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by joe_the_user 13d ago
https://archive.is/w0Osq#selection-5529.0-5529.40
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Anthropic CEO Calls for A.I. Slowdown(nytimes.com)
2 points by joe_the_user 13d ago|1 comments
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by joe_the_user 13d ago
I think you and the parent saying the same thing in different terms. It's very unfortunate that the group who rightly saw AI as a big threat, brought a range of dubious baggage to the discussion. Especially with the "alignment&quo
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by joe_the_user 14d ago
To me it doesn't seem like what AI has destroyed is the ability for mathematicians to develop understanding and share it with each other, but rather it's destroyed the yardstick (solving open problems) that has traditionally been
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by joe_the_user 14d ago
But the point is your original analogy with Baudelaire now just boils down to "both of them were critical" which is quite shallow indeed. It's especially annoying given that many people are making repeat Baudelaire's cri
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by joe_the_user 14d ago
The link you followed when you clicked hasn't a direct link for years, decade afaik (they mangle so they can see what's followed). The page used to show the direct on the search text but now it shows some stand in for it - sometim
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by joe_the_user 15d ago
It's sad given the topic is interesting and significant.

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