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Comic Mono
- Bakary 6y agoThe end result is a lot more pleasant than I expected it to be before clicking. Other than Helvetica and maybe Times New Roman/Calibri, how many other fonts have had a lasting influence on culture?
- Raphmedia 6y agoI'd go with Impact bold for the "meme captions".
- vesinisa 6y agoYup, it's certainly gaining traction as one for the history books from our age. Here's the US president using the font in a meme: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1207508280207011841 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12075082802070118...
- RBerenguel 6y agoI'd add Futura there for sure, and due to "former professional inclinations", Computer Modern.
- WalterGR 6y agoComputer Modern Good call. Everyone who's been to college (especially to study CS? exclusively to study CS?) and read a few papers after 198x is familiar with it.
- xattt 6y agoMyriad and Garamond for Apple copycats.
- jasomill 6y agoAdobe used Myriad as a corporate identity face for nearly a decade before Apple. Garamond has a rather more extensive history, but, suffice it to say that, in terms of typography at least, 1984[1] was not entirely unlike Nineteen Eighty-Four[2]. [1] https://youtu.be/VtvjbmoDx-I?t=54 https://youtu.be/VtvjbmoDx-I?t=54 [2] https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images3/1/1215/25/1949-uk-true-1st-edition-nineteen_1_35bb874f13bafec2f08260639d68106a.jpg https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images3/1/1215/25/1949-uk...
- dangerbird2 6y agoPapyrus for combining Comic Sans' lack of professionalism with Orientalism.
- SwiftyBug 6y agoAlso this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ
- chipotle_coyote 6y agoTrajan, for better or worse, is the Movie Poster Font. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI4shGV1EsM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI4shGV1EsM
- combatentropy 6y agoKirby Ferguson said it first, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t87QKdOJNv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t87QKdOJNv8
- chipotle_coyote 6y agoTrue!
- edm0nd 6y agoTahoma 4 life
- liminal 6y agoSNL did a funny skit on Papyrus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ
- matt-attack 6y agoFor anyone who hasn't watched the above, please watch it. I truly believe it's one of SNL's best pieces of comedy. So incredibly well done.
- aazaa 6y agoThat is funny.
- dundarious 6y agoAnd now it is gone: https://decider.com/2020/03/31/avatar-loses-papyrus-font-disney-plus/ https://decider.com/2020/03/31/avatar-loses-papyrus-font-dis...
- sundarurfriend 6y agoShame. While the new design is not bad, it looks sort of overproduced, which goes against the spirit of the movie. The older one, whatever its source may be, had a sort of raw unpolished elegance to it that that fit in nicely with the movie's theme.
- itronitron 6y agoAt some point in the future Eurostile will have had a lasting influence on culture. >> https://typesetinthefuture.com/2014/11/29/fontspots-eurostile/ https://typesetinthefuture.com/2014/11/29/fontspots-eurostil...
- cratermoon 6y agoWestern "cowboy" fonts come to mind. Wonton, which you have almost certainly seen on an American Chinese restaurant sign or menu. The jersey letter "Varsity" fonts.
- FullyFunctional 6y agoSeconded. I had to tweak the spacing, otherwise on it was too condensed on my Mac but the mono version feels slightly less cartoonish to me and is actually not bad at all. At first glance that only thing that annoyed me was that + and - didn't align perfectly.
- bagacrap 6y agocooper black comes to mind
- sevencolors 6y agoI really don't get the fascination with Comic Sans. I've seen people set their system font on laptop or phone to it. How is it even readable? /end old man rant
- tti 6y agoIrony.
- porphyra 6y agoA lot of what makes Comic Sans so ugly (lack of consistency or uniformity) also happens to make it more legible for people with dyslexia or similar reading disabilities.
- Raphmedia 6y agoDyslexie explains it well in their about pages, https://www.dyslexiefont.com/en/typeface/ https://www.dyslexiefont.com/en/typeface/ I wish the font was free, but there's always https://opendyslexic.org/ https://opendyslexic.org/
- sevencolors 6y agoOh fascinating. It does make sense now. Maybe someone will release a open source version that could be included in systems. Seeing that there are paid versions designed specifically for this
- hinkley 6y agoAll the times I've read along people bashing some 'asshole' who insisted on Comic Sans for everything, now I'm wondering how often the 'asshole' had dyslexia and the other people were the real assholes...
- Sparkle-san 6y agoI think there's a few reasons. It is used a lot in schools because it purportedly is good for students with dyslexia and resembles handwriting. Some use of it can be contributed to irony, but I think for a lot of laymen who don't care or know much about fonts they just think it's neat.
- whateveracct 6y agoLooks like I found my new coding font. This is so great!
- numbsafari 6y agoThis almost has the ‘e’ from my favorite programming font, monofur.
- corytheboyd 6y agoI actually... don’t mind it? What is wrong with me
- HalcyonicStorm 6y agoI'm also here with you. I don't get the issue. I know some fonts are more easily readable than others. I can understand the argument that maybe some fonts cause more strain than others. But there are other commenters who are saying that this font type is evoking emotions from them, particularly negative emotional ones. I don't get it.
- scrozier 6y agoLike music or art, I think that one starts to see, and appreciate, nuances as one learns and experiences more. If you’re drawn to the beauty and nuance of fonts, you start to develop preferences and appreciations for details. If you’re simply utilitarian in your font use (which is perfectly fine, of course), you probably don’t care about much beyond legibility. I find some fonts aesthetically beautiful, and some awful (Comic Sans is in the middle for me, though closer to awful), but I don’t expect others to share my tastes: I like jazz and filling out tax forms, too.
- corytheboyd 6y agoMy hot take is that Hacker News isn’t immune from having an online community status quo, it’s just a different one. The averaged out HN perspective is one of hyperbolic ridicule. And honestly it’s fine! You’ll never have an online community without this effect, or really any community. The same group also generates extremely useful content more often than not, I’m still thankful we have this :)
- pugworthy 6y agoJust keep using it. Haters gonna hate.
- Raphmedia 6y agoFor the Comic lovers, there's also http://comicneue.com/ http://comicneue.com/
- raegis 6y agoDoes it come in mono?
- faitswulff 6y agoIs this as easy for dyslexic people to read as comic sans is?
- Raphmedia 6y agoI think that by standardizing the font, they have removed the possible benefits for people with dyslexia.
- shawnz 6y agoI think I like the base font "Comic Shanns" a little better. I can't really put my finger on the difference though. Thanks for sharing!
- hinkley 6y agoI think it's the kerning, or when we are being funny, 'keming' which is a visual pun (when kerning goes wrong, kerning and keming are homographs). Ironically, the text I had the hardest time reading on their example page was the name of the font itself: Comic Mono has all the letters running together. Unfortunately Comic Shanns doesn't render its own name in the examples that I see, but you can see that the capital C has another pixel between it and the next letter. ETA: Author generated this font via the use of some scripts, which are inline near the bottom. There's a line about target_width in there, I'm curious what happens if you bump that from 510 to 530...
- skunkworks 6y agoMy old coworker Shannon Miwa created it! She's great.
- scotthew 6y agoIf you like this, I also recommend https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans
- fwip 6y agoI use Comic Code - not free, but pretty reasonably priced. http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/tabular-type-foundry/comic-code http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/tabular-type-foundry/comic-code I find that it is pretty readable and makes coding feel less serious - it helps me get into a looser "try it and see if it works" mentality. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/x1b1gac.png https://i.imgur.com/x1b1gac.png
- adrianmonk 6y agoNot really a criticism and just an observation, but you can tell this page was written by a programmer because the section called "What does it look like?" is about what the code looks like, not the font itself. I realize the page's text is in the font, but often there's a sample that shows what all the common characters look like and in different variations (like regular and bold). Which is what I expected when I read that section title.
- mattherman 6y agoI think they were just using the source code as an example of the font since one of the most likely uses of this font is programming.
- pessimizer 6y agoMonospaced fonts are for programmers.
- seanmcdirmid 6y agoWho haven’t experimented with proportional fonts for coding yet.
- _benj 6y agowould you mind expanding on this?
- scentoni 6y agohttps://nickgravgaard.com/elastic-tabstops/ https://nickgravgaard.com/elastic-tabstops/
- seanmcdirmid 6y agoYou don’t even need those these days as most format guidelines (Eg at Google) disallow ascii art.
- dsparkman 6y agoThe ! glyph has some issues. Other than that, I like it.
- cs702 6y agoComic Sans and its descendants are... indestructible. No matter how much some font designers complain about it, and how often they criticize it, Comic Sans keeps coming back, like the Terminator: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Sans#Reception_and_use_in_popular_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Sans#Reception_and_use_i... Among the most incongruous uses of Comic Sans I've seen, a few stand out: * A plaque on a large statue of a historical figure in a public space: https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nacional/region-metropolitana/2018/07/03/critican-monumento-a-pedro-aguirre-cerda-por-utilizacion-de-tipografia-comic-sans.shtml https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nacional/region-metropol... * A letter announcing the creation of new political party in Greece, breaking off with the then-current Prime Minister: https://web.archive.org/web/20151004131442/http://www.volosnow.gr/o-lafazanis-katethese-tin-apochorisi-tou-grammeni-se-comic-sans/ https://web.archive.org/web/20151004131442/http://www.volosn... * A letter to the US Congress from the legal team defending the President against impeachment proceedings: https://www.fastcompany.com/90414127/trumps-old-lawyers-really-really-love-comic-sans https://www.fastcompany.com/90414127/trumps-old-lawyers-real... Thankfully, in these examples the authors chose not to use a different color for each letter!
- nerdponx 6y agoI truly don't understand why. Are people just that sick of Times New Roman and Calibri? It's not like I especially hate Comic Sans, but it seems so wildly inappropriate for all of the uses mentioned above.
- coliveira 6y agoI really prefer CS to Calibri. Calibri is one of the ugliest fonts ever invented.
- vagrantJin 6y agoThis is true. Calibri takes effort to peruse. I confuse letters and words all the time and have to reread after losing context. Comic sans is certainly not the worst font out there.
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- navaati 6y agoMmh, Python 2... The troll goes deep, love it.
- bane 6y agoI once worked with a guy who wrote everything in Comic Sans - despite being counseled about it repeatedly. Fonts set a "tone" to your writing, and while Comic Sans if maybe fine for inviting people to in impromptu office pizza party, it represents yourself poorly in a professional environment. Here's some examples of how inappropriate some of his emails were (all real): - Contract negotiations - HR issues - Announcing the unexpected death of a co-worker - Announcing layoffs on a contract loss It looked ridiculous. It also turns out he was a terrible employee and manager. The two seem to be pretty correlated.
- anigbrowl 6y agoMy favorite inappropriate use case was the death notice of a law partner in a legal newspaper (law firms commonly take out small adverts to announce the arrival or departure of partners). I don't know if this was a terrible failing on the part of the person who bought the ad, or a subtle acknowledgement of the decedent's preferences.
- nescioquid 6y ago> despite being counseled about it repeatedly For me, this makes it farce. Partly because the guy continues to do it after learning it bugs everyone else, and partly because of the earnestness around what fonts someone uses in office emails. My guess is that you were driven to that level of earnestness. What was it like to have a disagreement with this guy about something that mattered (more)?
- bane 6y agoThe best short descriptive word I can come up with is "absurd". It was clearly part of a carefully crafted social image he was trying to portray. It included signing emails with "wise sayings", fortunes, and platitudes like "let your inner light shine the way for others" and other nonsense, long rambling speeches about how we're all each other's brother, and a bizarre need to try to protect the worst performing employees from even minimal levels of accountability. In practice he was pure chaos to work with and never contributed anything meaningful to our work despite having a great looking resume (including stints at some FAANGs and top schools). When cornered about actual technical work he was supposed to be doing he just became annoyingly evasive and tried to redirect the conversation into some kind of drum-circle feelings session. It was like a cheap con-artist, a yoga class, and a fortune cookie had a baby.
- torgard 6y agoI legitimately like it. No joke.
- progre 6y agoMe too. I can see myself using this as a console font.
- alpaca128 6y agoI think due to the monospaced style as well as a relatively small font size it looks a lot more regular and just...less boring than other fonts. I was positively surprised, too.
- loh 6y agoYeah it is strangely easy to look at. Smooth and readable.
- lrossi 6y agoI’ve used this font in all diagrams of my book. Together with svg shape filtering, it achieved a great handwriting look. You can find sample chapters here if curious: https://sw46.github.io/pip-book https://sw46.github.io/pip-book
- lrossi 6y agoHere is a direct link: https://sw46.github.io/pip-book/12.pdf https://sw46.github.io/pip-book/12.pdf
- iakov 6y agoI think it works very well. Round, but uniform, it reminds me of handwriting on old blueprints.
- snotrockets 6y agoAdobe Tekton was made to replicate that handwriting: https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/tekton https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/tekton
- porpoise 6y agoWhen writing my dissertation, I found that changing the font to Comic Sans or Papyrus is an effective way of forcing myself to be self-critical and preventing myself from, for lack of a better phrase, "falling in love" with what I wrote (the "scholarly" classic-looking fonts like Sabon, Garamond, Baskerville tend to have that effect on me)
- ethbr0 6y agoChanging font from Baskerville to Comic Sans is the equivalent of replacing the Queen's English with a New Jersey accent. If the content bears up, you're probably onto something.
- zimpenfish 6y agoYeah, I think this is one of those things that keeps being recommended for writer's block or proofreading to shake you up and give you a fresh perspective.
- ThePadawan 6y agoThis is why Bertrand Meyer formats all his lecture slides this way. See e.g. http://se.inf.ethz.ch/courses/2013a_spring/JavaCSharp/lectures/Lecture_11_A_eiffel_java_Cs.pdf http://se.inf.ethz.ch/courses/2013a_spring/JavaCSharp/lectur... It's readable enough for students to refer back to, but ugly enough that they prefer listening instead of reading along.
- mbo 6y agoSimon Peyton Jones (Haskell committee) also formats all his lecture slides in Comic Sans: https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1bd1ia/spj_and_comic_sans/c95xz0a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1bd1ia/spj_and_com...
- rakoo 6y agoOpenBSD people have "weaponized" Comic Sans by confronting them about font bikeshedding instead of caring about what actually matters: https://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan14-libressl/mgp00025.html https://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan14-libressl/mgp00025.ht...
- xingyzt 6y agoSee also Comic Code: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20533923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20533923
- snotrockets 6y agoI've been using Comic Code for more than a year now. I can't claim any non-placebo improvement, but it is a perfectly good font, not worse than any monospaced font I used before.
- rubyist5eva 6y agothanks I hate it
- nunez 6y agoFinally! The font to use for projects I hate.
- chocological 6y agoThis is great, but I would have preferred it if it was based on Comic Neue[1], a more legible and sane version of the original Comic Sans. [1]: http://comicneue.com/ http://comicneue.com/
- Razengan 6y agoThis is actually quite not bad.
- zaptheimpaler 6y agoomg its.. beautiful.
- nbzso 6y agoKitsch (/kɪtʃ/ KITCH; loanword from German)[a][1] is art or other objects that, generally speaking, appeal to popular rather than "high art" tastes. Such objects are sometimes appreciated in a knowingly ironic or humorous way.[2][3][4] The word was first applied to artwork that was a response to certain divisions of 19th-century art with aesthetics that favored what later art critics would consider to be exaggerated sentimentality and melodrama. Hence, "kitsch art" is closely associated with "sentimental art". Kitsch is also related to the concept of camp, because of its humorous and ironic nature.
- jedberg 6y agoI use Comic Sans for all my messaging apps. It’s the most readable font around. People make fun of me when they see it but whatever.
- cblconfederate 6y agoI find comic sans in general to be very legible. This one doesn't look similar, though
- jancsika 6y agoThere's something very pleasing about the monospacing with this particular font. Font people-- any idea why I would enjoy the aesthetics of the monospaced version so much more than the old variable-width version?
- scrozier 6y agoI totally agree with you. I’m no fan of Comic Sans, but monospaced it’s really quite nice. I think Comic Shanns does things like set all the characters on the baseline, eliminate goofy tilting, etc. The letter shapes themselves are nice.
- Shared404 6y ago> I think Comic Shanns does things like set all the characters on the baseline, eliminate goofy tilting, etc. I think this is the biggest trick. I'm no font expert, but my understanding is that the base of Comic Sans is fine, it's just that there are so many small "errors" [0] that make it a pain to look at. [0] Many of which had perfectly valid reasons for the time.
- Jonnax 6y agoI know I'm in the minority but this actually looks like a fun font. I think I'll set my terminal to it
- tombert 6y agoYou might be in the minority but I'm in the same boat. I just installed this font as a joke for a screenshot to send to a friend in my terminal...but I actually think I'm going to keep it. It's very easy to read, and very "clean" feeling.
- manuelabeledo 6y agoPart of the minority here. It’s refreshing after several years of Monaco, to be honest.
- vonwoodson 6y agoSo many shades of yes! I am dyslexic, and comic sans is one of the few fonts that is eminently readable to me. They’re is dyslexie mono too, which is nice. ( https://www.dyslexiefont.com https://www.dyslexiefont.com )
- tombert 6y agoGenuine question, from a non-dyslexic; does this monospace version of Comic Sans retain the same "easier-for-dyslexic-people" properties as the one that you'd use in a word processor?
- xamde 6y agoHmm, your andecdata is not backed by studies, it seems https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5934461/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5934461/ - the paper concludes, any more or less normal font works for dislexic readers, too. Interletter spacing (but not too mich) and font size help, though.
- meddlepal 6y agoI like Comic Sans. I'm still waiting to run into someone who uses it for their IDE/editor/terminal font.
- Megranium 6y agoWell I use Comic Mono as my terminal and code font, even for live coding performances in front of an audience ...
- sunsetSamurai 6y agooff topic: anybody knows what's the color theme for the code snippets?
- dtinth 6y agoIt is One Dark Pro with modified background color to be darker than usual, to increase the contrast.
- kevas 6y agoIt’s.... beautiful
- timonoko 6y ago"äöåü" do not wörk.
- _trampeltier 6y agoSadly .. the first thing I saw too
- mroche 6y agoComic Shanns (the base of this font) released an update ~12h ago that include a whole bunch of diacritics. If you like Comic Mono, you may wish to run the converter script using the new CShanns release.
- protomyth 6y agoI will say this, using Comic Sans when we sent out Early Childhood material to parents got a much better response than using "formal" fonts. I guess it didn't look like bills, so people actually looked at it.
- needle0 6y agoThis discussion is quite the testament to the incredible influence of Comic Sans when people are raising fuss over it when it’s not even the topic of the thread!
- angry-tempest 6y agoThis is fucking genius. It's like coding in a comic book world.
- garmaine 6y agoNot gonna lie, I like it.
- tsjq 6y agothis is nice. might take take a bit of time to getting used to this (like any other change). how to use this in Pycharm , Notepad, etc in my work computer ?
- strenholme 6y agoIn terms of mono fonts that look like Comic Sans, I am surprised no one has mentioned Fantasque Sans Mono: https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans While not Comic Sans, another Microsoft Web Core font which has been reasonably cloned is Trebuchet MS. Fira is, to my eyes, an open source font which looks similar to Trebuchet MS, and there is the very popular monospace variant Fira Code: https://v-fonts.com/fonts/fira-code https://v-fonts.com/fonts/fira-code https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode Not to mention the original Fira Mono: https://github.com/bBoxType/FiraSans/blob/master/Fira_Mono_3_2/PDF/FiraMono-Medium.otf.pdf https://github.com/bBoxType/FiraSans/blob/master/Fira_Mono_3... for a sample or https://github.com/bBoxType/FiraSans https://github.com/bBoxType/FiraSans to download.
- narag 6y agoThank you. The font mentioned in the article doesn't support Spanish characters, so it's useless to me.
- noisy_boy 6y agoFantasque Sans Mono was my go-to monospace font until Jetbrains Mono came out. I still think it looks quite good for code while not being too comic-y.
- strenholme 6y agoJust gave JetBrains mono a spin. I like the design; a bit plain but pretty readable. I had to go in to FontForge and fix what I felt were some issues with the font: * I prefer a stroke instead of a dot in to 0 (zero) * While JetBrains mono has an alternate form with a 0 stroke, the stroke is too thin. * The smart quotes, such as “” look too much like each other. I edited them to give the font Verdana-style smart quotes (where “ and ‘ point to the left) * The “c” looks too much like “o”. I have opened up the bowl in c so it’s distinct from “o”. * I aggressively subsetted the font to have only English, Spanish, and some basic typography (smart quotes, em dash, bullet, right arrow). This reduces the size, which means I could make it a webfont in the future. * The changes are over at https://github.com/samboy/CaulixtlaFonts/tree/master/MiscFonts/AnnaFonts https://github.com/samboy/CaulixtlaFonts/tree/master/MiscFon... (AnnaTerm is modified Fira Mono; ElsaTerm is modified Jetbrains Mono) These are issues I could quickly patch up in Fontforge, and I do like the font.
- johnnujler 6y agoNever thought I would ever see this during my lifetime. Really well done. Has the quirky feel of Comic Sans, but with the flavor of fixed space mono fonts.
- nextweek2 6y agoAs someone who creates software for the education space, in my experience Comic Sans is picked in schools because it has the 'a' in the shape that you actually write an 'a'. This helps when teaching primary school children. Some schools will got out of their way to buy special fonts but most will default to Comic Sans because it is ubiquitous.
- DrSiemer 6y agoComic Sans has gained a cultural meaning beyond it's design, which is why it's inappropriate for any official publications. Personally I have more fun spotting the "Jokerman" font in public. It is often chosen to display creativity or playfulness by people who appear to lack the skill to expand the Windows font selection.
- whalesalad 6y agoHonestly this isn’t bad. I can see it being particularly useful for code examples or situations where you want code to appear playful or otherwise less stodgy to the user. API documentation and blog posts come to mind. Definitely deserves a run in the editor at the very least.
- Megranium 6y agoI know that it's controversial, but I really feel using Comic Mono for coding reduces cognitive strain ... I've been using it as my main coding font for a while now.
- blululu 6y agoLove this. Once while studying the uses of programming font preferences on Hackernews (http://www.highdimensionalcoconuts.com/Work/FontResearch/programing_fonts.html http://www.highdimensionalcoconuts.com/Work/FontResearch/pro...), I found a single vote for Comic Sans. The motivation: “to remind me to be humble”. I really appreciated the sentiment, though the kerning on Comic Sans makes this a visual nightmare for programming. Having a monospaced variant is a nice feature for programmers.
- nyanpasu64 6y agoI dislike how the font has no italic and renders using an ugly faux italic (the browser makes it oblique with too much slant, and it ends up too far to the right). And the FontForge-bolded version is not significantly bolder than before, which is understandable because Comic Sans is already heavy. The original Comic Sans comes with regular, bold, and in Windows 8.1 and above, italic and bold italic as well.