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Caffeine boosts problem-solving ability but not creativity, study indicates
- UtMan88 7y agoAt Game Jams I would always start things off with my "2 beers, 2 coffees" method. After the theme was announced, we'd go out and discuss ideas over a few beers (just not enough to get trashed), then, come back, flesh stuff out, get our coffee and go back to work. Worked out pretty well for generating some pretty wild ideas while not making ourselves disfunctional. Drink responsibly.
- ihuman 7y ago> not enough to get trashed But enough to reach the Ballmer Peak? https://xkcd.com/323/ https://xkcd.com/323/
- snarf21 7y agoYeah, just enough to slow your brain down and you slide right into flow.
- squeaky-clean 7y agoWouldn't the Ballmer Peak be pretty trashed? I don't really know how well BAC% correlates to drunkenness but that's almost double the legal limit for driving in the US.
- OJFord 7y agoIt's about 5 'US standard drink's according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content Which at 18ml ethanol each equates to 9 UK 'units', which is about 3 and half pints or ~90% of a bottle of wine. Of course 'trashed' or 'drunkenness' both depend on the person, and are subjective anyway, and the time taken to consume them has a big impact too - necking 4 pints is very different to a bottle over the course of a full evening, for example. But personally no, I don't think I'd program very well in either case.
- nscalf 7y agoWrite drunk, edit buzzed, then?
- vsareto 7y agoBeer code tends to forget about edge cases in my experience, so yeah
- beobab 7y agoI never remember to put comments in when I am beer-coding. Caffeine-code is much easier to follow later.
- kingpiss 7y agoMy weed code is usually really creative but riddled with bugs
- petra 7y agoDoes it help with solving hard problems ?
- mywittyname 7y agoWhen you come back sober, the solutions won't make any sense.
- oh_sigh 7y agoPersonally, weed might help in the creative phase of problem solving, but if it requires working memory weed is a big negative(at least how it affects me)
- chrstphrhrt 7y agoI think including some CBD in there negates the memory issues.
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- Cenk 7y agoThe paper in question: https://citationsy.com/archives/q?doi=10.1016/j.concog.2020.102899 https://citationsy.com/archives/q?doi=10.1016/j.concog.2020....
- orhmeh09 7y agoIt's a pretty poor study, to be honest. The pattern I tend to see on Hacker News with studies is that they go unread beyond the abstract (often not even that when a press release is linked, like here) and people just chime in with their anecdotes that confirm their own personal beliefs.
- MperorM 7y agoAt least they read the abstract! I can't really determine what the right cost/benefit trade-off here. Reading beyond the abstract is rather time consuming and is not something I can afford for every paper.
- RandomInteger4 7y agoIn other news: "Water is Wet"
- tombert 7y agoWhat exactly is the point of these kinds of smartass comments? Even if it were within the realm of common knowledge (which I find debatable), having a study to confirm it could still have value. I personally didn't know that caffeine might be a problem for creativity, so I found the article interesting.
- k__ 7y agoWhat boosts creativity? I sometimes used alcohol for song writing purposes. Are there healthier methods?
- Tade0 7y agoPoverty. My most recent creative streak was when I had to survive a month on 250CHF in Zürich.
- k__ 7y agoHm, I mostly stagnated depressively in front of the TV when I was poor.
- Tade0 7y agoPerhaps you were unemployed as well. I had (have, actually) a job, but due to absolutely hilarious (in hindsight of course) circumstances had to spend most of my money on a room I got via AirBnB. I even started a technical blog: https://wringing.it/ https://wringing.it/ But I may not be poor enough anymore to continue writing it.
- flyGuyOnTheSly 7y agoI always do my best programming when I am dead broke and the wolves are at the door.
- Proziam 7y agoPressure of any kind is my best motivator as well. A serious deadline to hit with significant consequences (the consequences don't even have to be mine necessarily) often gets the best work out of me.
- pmiller2 7y agoPeople get really creative when they have constraints placed on them, in general. Poverty is a pretty strong constraint on a lot of things.
- flyGuyOnTheSly 7y agoI would have thought that problem solving abilities necessitated creativity? If the solution was obvious, where's the problem?
- throwsprtsdy 7y agoAnecdotally, I was recently cramming a lot of "Leetcode medium" questions to prepare for job interviews, and after a couple of weeks, I was drinking Starbuck's coffee and solving those problems like a machine... seriously, like a machine. I found I did get better (or at least much faster) at recognizing subproblems and quickly composing an overall solution, even if none of the steps was particularly creative. After about 3 weeks I had to ditch the coffee, I was getting too addled. (Not a controlled experiment, of course, just conveying my impression of the experience).
- Proziam 7y agoAnother anecdote, but when prepping for any sort of competition I used to be a hard-core caffeine consumer (measurable in grams, instead of mg) and it sometimes led to some weird effects. After a day or two of that level of caffeine intake, I go into an almost trance of productivity and performance. It feels like I'm watching myself do what I need to do, not that I have to 'do it' myself. It's a very strange sensation. It's the same sensation I get when I'm 'in the zone' and competing in something with 100% of my focus on it (emotionally engaged, you might say). I don't get into that state anywhere close to as easy without caffeine. I've been off caffeine for about 4-5 months now and I've noticed a change. My productivity isn't worse in any measurable way, but it feels different. I wish I could describe it in more relatable terms but I have nothing I can really relate it to.
- strikelaserclaw 7y agoI know exactly what you mean. My theory is that getting amped up on caffeine keeps you from getting decent sleep, which means your cortisol/whatever hormones are still kinda high when you wake up, so when you take even more caffeine upon awakening, your body seems to move forwards from a different baseline than when you drink coffee after completely resting. This along with the fact that for me personally, being tired makes me more focused in a very one dimensional way, i can be very immersed in what im doing without ever really questioning if what im doing is even worth doing in the first place.
- RichardHeart 7y agoI think focusing your mind is like focusing a magnifying glass, you can go broad, or narrow, but not both. How far do you go down a path till you switch and try another? I think stimulants increase how far you'll remain engaged on one idea. Related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathfinding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathfinding
- flycaliguy 7y agoAs a graphic designer my advice for people looking to convert a stimulant into divergent thinking fuel is building yourself a framework for developing creative ideas. Not exactly rocket science, but I do see where this article is coming from. Lots of thumbnail drawings and constructive criticism from a teammate is the meat of it. Also... be naturally good at divergent thinking I guess? I love working with people who are naturally divergent. They tell the funniest jokes.
- failrate 7y agoSure, and if you find yourself getting stage fright, you can use something like Brian Eno's Oblique Strategies.
- aganame 7y agoSomeone oughta research the differences between coffee and other caffeinated drinks. My experience says that there are huge differences there.
- travisjungroth 7y agoIt’s the different caffeine dose plus all the other chemicals. L-theanine in green tea, for example. I think I’ve seen some research on the difference between green tea and coffee somewhere.
- aganame 7y agoSure, but the effects of coffee against the digestive system are entirely different from tea. That supposedly has some psychological effects.
- travisjungroth 7y agoOh good point.
- dacohenii 7y agoThank you for linking to the paper. The study measures the effects of regular caffeine users: > Participants were invited to participate if they were between 18-35 years of age, consumed between 1-2 cups of caffeinated beverages per day at least 5 days a week, did not smoke, were native English speakers, and took no psychiatric medications or painkillers on a regular basis. > [...] > Participants were asked to abstain from any caffeinated or alcoholic beverages from 4 pm on the day prior to the session. I recently listened to Michael Pollan's Caffeine [0], which was on Audible's free monthly audiobook list recently. He argues (and I'm inclined to agree) that if you are a daily caffeine consumer, your daily cup of coffee does less in the way of cognitive enhancement, and more in the way of getting you back to your baseline (i.e. preventing caffeine withdrawal). With this in mind, I think the study could be improved by having subjects who started off completely off caffeine for a few weeks. That way, we'd be more certain that the control group isn't going through caffeine withdrawal, and that the effect of caffeine isn't decreased by tolerance. [0] https://www.audible.com/pd/Caffeine-Audiobook/B083MVZ91Y https://www.audible.com/pd/Caffeine-Audiobook/B083MVZ91Y [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22503948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22503948
- olejorgenb 7y agoYeah, seems like a major flaw to tbh. > Typically, the onset of symptoms starts 12 to 24 hours after caffeine cessation, peaks at 20–51 hours, and may last up to two to nine days. > The severity of symptoms vary from individual to individual, and most commonly include a headache, fatigue, decreased energy/activeness, decreased alertness, drowsiness, decreased contentedness, depressed mood, difficulty concentrating, irritability, and feeling foggy/not clearheaded > The incidence or severity of symptoms increased with increases in the daily dose, but abstinence from low doses, such as about one small cup of coffee per day, also produced symptoms of withdrawal. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430790/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430790/
- basq 7y agoI've been doing 'days off' off coffee amd I'm inclined to sleep waaaay more. Like from 8 hours to 14. It can be a massive trade off in productivity. I have to set aside light workloads for those days.
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- WC3w6pXxgGd 7y agoI can tell you this from personal experience. I can do activities with which I'm already familiar quicker, but I am far less creative due to the caffeine anxiety.
- ecoled_ame 7y agoyou gotta smoke a joint with your coffee before work too
- rhombocombus 7y agoIn college we called that the "hippie speedball"
- threauxawei 7y agoWe would take adderall to work and study, and then smoke weed at 3am to go to sleep. Very fun but not very effective (for academic success)
- ecoled_ame 7y agolol
- rhombocombus 7y agoSo do the ADHD meds I take; huge gains in problem solving and execution, not so much in the creativity front. I wonder if this is a general psychological feature of stimulants
- JackRabbitSlim 7y agoI still remember one of the funniest lines from the old movie "Dead Man On Campus": "This is my brothers Ritalin, It's great for staying up and studying just don't try to write an English paper on it"
- s_y_n_t_a_x 7y agoFortunately, delirium sets in during an all-nighter and you can get creativity from that. Not that you should strive for that scenario though.
- overcast 7y agoBob MaloogaLoogaLoogaLoogaLooga. One Malooga, four loogas.
- ff317 7y agoI tend to agree that's a reasonable broad conclusion. However, even among stimulants, there are chemical differences between them, and they might act differently in the body. Also, coffee does contain a lot of other chemicals alongside the caffeine. Biology is never simple! However, you can, in my experience, enhance the creative/lateral-thinking benefits of sleep cycles by adding carefully-timed/dosed caffeine as a stimulant. The basic kinds of patterns I've found to work well go something like: Bang your head on a hard problem to at least partial mental exhaustion, then consume coffee and go take a short nap. The stimulant buzz will slow down the process of falling asleep from exhaustion, and that slowed-down timeline gives you more minutes in that halfway-asleep state with your mind abuzz in lateral creative connections mode. Then you eventually make it into sleep and wake up later refreshed with new ideas.
- navjack27 7y agoIf you have ADHD then no. You can only get possibly near a neurotypical brain.
- jpm_sd 7y agoFor me, caffeine is "focus juice". Makes it possible to care about solving tedious work problems. I can see how the same would apply to writers and artists, who have tons of creative ideas but have a harder time battling through the "war of art" without a little help from our friend Coffea arabica. Creativity tends to flow best standing in the shower, lying in bed, or out for a run or a bike ride.
- tic_tac 7y agoCreativity can really only happen when the mind isn't doing anything in particular. Only then can it wander, and only in wandering can it arrive at novel combinations or alterations of ideas.
- alexfromapex 7y agoWeirdly enough, being tired boosts creativity for me
- annoyingnoob 7y agoFor me, its being relaxed but not necessarily tired. I tend to get a second wind after dinner, at a time when there is no pressure just my personal interest, and I'm more creative during that time.
- Antoninus 7y agoI agree.
- DantesKite 7y agoOn a side note, I really enjoy the taste of coffee. I try not to drink more than one cup a day, but I wonder now about what would happen if I stopped cold turkey. Maybe a couple days reset wouldn’t be such a bad thing.
- panchicore3 7y agoI usually take coffee tolerance breaks, 3 days withdrawal symptoms like headache and 20 days coffee-free, when I come back, it hits better than if I were stayed so it is rewarding.
- lee 7y agoI used to do this too. You know instead of cold-turkey with withdrawal symptoms you can just gradually lower your intake. On the first day or of the break I'll just drink half the amount I normally drink. Then by day 2 I'll drink a third. Probably nicer to ease into it.
- anthony_romeo 7y agoI find weaning off with following a gradual path of half-caf -> decaf* or black tea -> herbal tea helps greatly with withdrawal symptoms. Then staying off caffeine for a few weeks really brings the rush back when I inevitably resume drinking coffee *I should point out that decaf still has a little caffeine in it
- ssully 7y agoI drink a cup of coffee in the morning, maybe have a green tea in the afternoon. I've gone off caffeine and the only negative impact is I just take a little longer to wake up. I am sure everyone's tolerance is different, but I think I would need to start drinking more coffee to feel any kind of withdrawal affects.
- econcon 7y agoNothing changed for me, went from 2 cups to 0 cold turkey. Zero effects.
- adrianmonk 7y agoI guess I never assumed it did. For me, the experience of caffeine is more or less that it just wakes up my brain. Whatever type of thinking I was already capable of or inclined toward when my brain is engaged, it just enables me to actually do it. It is nice to have a more scientific basis to back that up, though.
- Uhhrrr 7y agoLooking at Table 3, it seems like there is a consistent improvement in divergent problem solving, but it's well within the standard deviation for each row. So it may actually help with that and we just need many more data points. The other thing is, for me caffeine results in more ideas bubbling out of my subconscious. This can be great for brainstorming-type creativity or getting unstuck while working on a creative project - but it's like operations research where you're solving the problem by adding another variable. It's not useful for more specific, constrained problems like the "divergent" tasks in the paper.
- tus88 7y agoWhy would it? It would be like saying caffeine boosts your personality or social skills.
- simonsarris 7y agoHa, if true that would confirm Balzac's claim: > Coffee is a great power in my life; I have observed its effects on an epic scale. Coffee roasts your insides. Many people claim coffee inspires them, but, as everybody knows, coffee only makes boring people even more boring. From "The Pleasures and Pains of Coffee, 1830, http://blissbat.net/balzac.html http://blissbat.net/balzac.html
- tmoot 7y agoI'm happy you posted this.
- empath75 7y agopretty much true for any stimulant in my experience.
- kgonza 7y agoNot... Ah, in your experience. I missed that, initially. I meant to write "Not khat," which gives me the best inspiration ever (and a crash that lasts days when I get off of it).
- droopyEyelids 7y agoWhat part of the world are you in where khat is a thing?
- blaser-waffle 7y agoPresumably middle east or north/eastern africa. Then again I'm sure there are plenty of SV hipster types who might be big on it. "forget microdosing, khat is the new path to rockstar programming flow states"
- LoveMortuus 7y agoIs anyone afraid that microdosing might become the next must, if you want to be competitive in the programming fields of industry?
- nwsm 7y agoInteresting study. I wonder what "enhanced problem solving significantly" means? Also first time seeing my alma mater on HN :)
- dartdartdart 7y agoWhat other common ways are there to improve problem solving or creativity?
- dontparticipate 7y agoMarijuana
- fourmyle 7y agoMaybe creativity but at least for me definitely not problem solving. Modafinil on the other hand...
- snvzz 7y ago>modafinil Has an interesting side effect of screwing with threshold of movement, particularly finger movement. I play rhythm games (sifac, llsif, deresute, mirishita...) regularly and tried modafinil. My fingers wouldn't auto-move anymore, and furthermore even if I moved them consciously, it took more effort to do so. At everything else, it puts caffeine to shame, with no tolerance buildup or withdrawal symptoms.
- crb3 7y agoFor creativity, get used to running a fan nearby. If you're like me, your inbuilt pattern-matcher will autocomplete and drag up 'ghost impressions' while you're otherwise occupied. A fan is better than an electronic noise source because its air, and thus its sound, interacts with the surrounding world; instead of being a point-source, it's a better background. For problem solving, dwell on the problem in its domain just before bedtime, and make sure it's the last thing on your mind as you settle down into sleep. Let the subconscious have sole access to your understanding of the problem overnight. Everybody's built different, but these work for me.
- angel_j 7y agoWhy can't problem-solving be a part of creativity?
- vraivroo 7y agoDid you read the article? Convergent vs divergent thinking.
- TACIXAT 7y agoI wonder how they establish a control group. Most people regularly consume caffeine, so this is most likely measuring the effects of caffeine withdrawal, since the control isn't necessarily people who never consume caffeine. I guess you could test on Mormons for this.
- _pastel 7y agoAh, the classic confusion between not finding enough evidence to disprove the null hypothesis, and finding enough evidence to prove the null hypothesis. The caffeinated group outperformed the noncaffeinated on all 5 creativity metrics. The sample size and effect size were too small to prove caffeine caused an improvement. How did that turn into this title?
- olooney 7y agoRight. These results could equally well be interpreted as caffeine have the same effect on both convergent and divergent thinking, but divergent thinking (renamed "creativity" in the title) is harder to measure because it has more variance. If anything, it provides mild evidence in favor of the hypothesis that caffeine improves divergent thinking and calls for further study with a larger control group.
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- rafaelvasco 7y agoOf course. Creativity is not a matter of more brain activity, more synapses etc. It comes from elsewhere. One could say we have two brains, the one that is active while we're awake and the one which activates when we sleep and dream. It is known that some painters deliberately entered in a dream like consciousness state, and from there they took the creativity and inspiration to paint out of the box things;
- SeanFerree 7y agoInteresting. I've never had a problem with this or noticed it. I couldn't ever give up coffee though :)))
- burtonator 7y agoDuh. Marijuana AND caffeine!
- bookofjoe 7y agohttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1053810019303435?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10538...
- durpleDrank 7y agoCarbs > Caffeine
- annoyingnoob 7y agoConsuming copious carbs creates correct code. Though I still prefer caffeine. Hey, why not have both?
- snvzz 7y agoCarbs --> Fattening.
- bookofjoe 7y agoExcerpts from Balzac's 1839 essay 'Traité des Excitants Modernes'('Treatise on Modern Stimulants')": https://www.bookofjoe.com/2020/01/experts-expert-honor%C3%A9-de-balzac-on-how-to-prepare-coffee.html https://www.bookofjoe.com/2020/01/experts-expert-honor%C3%A9...
- csours 7y agoThis is why I drink Irish coffee when I want to solve problems creatively.
- maxhedrome 7y agoThat’s what the weed is for
- pandigital 7y agoErdos[0] certainly felt his creativity was helped by caffeine (and amphetamines). From personal experience, math professors seem to be the most reliable academic users of nicotine and caffeine. I'm skeptical they are all deluding themselves. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s
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- copperx 7y agoFrom my experience, amphetamines make the crazy ideas you've had all along feel actionable. You then put a lot of work on them and they produce fruits. Then you get off amphetamines and you're amazed at how much you accomplished. I still go back to some projects that I did while on Adderall and am in awe of how much I accomplished in a few months on my own, and how many of my ideas that I had simmered in my head for decades were doable once I sat down and worked on them. However, after months of amphetamines I felt like I was a workhorse with no novel ideas or approaches, but still very efficient. I've heard that mathematicians carry a well-tested mental toolset that enable them to solve all kinds of problems. So, perhaps if you have the right toolset and you just need to put work on an problem, amphetamines can work great.
- porknubbins 7y agoI like how you put that “the crazy ideas you’ve had all along feel actionable”. This is the only way I can write anything- with caffeine all the crazy ideas in my head seem worth expressing.
- forkexec 7y agoPsychedelics, and maybe weed, boost creativity. So which class of compound depends if you're writing a novel or painting an album cover, or writing code or solving NP =?= P. Btw, caffeine is an anticholinergic; too many or too much of this class of compounds leads to dementia and other permanent problems. Anecdotal example: ex-stepfather abused diphenhydramine, had a personality change and acted erratically... he eventually gave up, left my semi-disabled mom without any notice, just an email. https://www.healthline.com/health/anticholinergics https://www.healthline.com/health/anticholinergics
- ComputerGuru 7y agoLet’s not compare apples and oranges. Caffeine has been studied much more than diphenhydramine, and diphenhydramine’s senility-inducing behavior is now pretty strongly documented while there’s absolutely no such indication of the same for caffeine.
- 8bitsrule 7y agoSome definitions of these terms are in order, because many aspects of creativity certainly involve problem-solving on a massive scale. 'Inspiration' may not be boosted, but without execution the inspiration isn't realized. Consider e.g. a concert pianist (interpreting a score) or a visual artist (choosing paint, brushstrokes).
- dghughes 7y agoCaffeine combined with L-theanine is supposed to increase focus but I'm not sure about creativity.
- freerootkit 7y agoTrying to problem solve my lack of creativity, guess I need more coffee
- xenonite 7y agoI find the headline misleading regarding the effect on creativity. In fact, no effect was found. Hence: Caffeine boosts problem-solving ability and shows no sign of altered creativity.
- notananthem 7y agoCaffeine: brute force.
- bright-augura 7y agoSo caffeine doesn't improve creativity, but it boosts problem-solving and focus. Wouldn't someone who wants to improve their creativity want both of these?
- rkagerer 7y agoHow do studies like this purport to quantify creativity?
- Razengan 7y agoPersonally, I prefer slowly sipping tea when thinking about how to solve a problem that I haven't figured out yet, and burning through Red Bull when I already know how to do it and it's time to put that solution down in code etc.
- sitkack 7y agoTHC boosts creativity but not problem-solving ability, stoner indicates.
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- chiefalchemist 7y agoStimulants increase focus; it triggers leaning in. Creativity is about de-focusing; leaning back and away.
- yalogin 7y agoHow reliable are these double blind studies? How do they know they are guaranteeing that only caffeine is impacting their abilities at that moment? There could be a ton of other factors that could be playing a part here. Can we be sure that x number of users is enough to remove those extraneous factors? These kind of studies feel very odd.
- michalu 7y agoI own a coffee roaster with eshop and over 100 corporate customers. I love coffee. At the same time, I believe none of the "studies" claiming health benefits of it. One only has to study what it does to your brain to make a sound conclusion. (or read some of those studies and look at the bogus methods they often use) It also affects sleep in a negative way, with poor sleep being at the root of most health problems including cancer ... (lookup stuff on sleep by Matthew Walker) Likewise, I don't know what to think of all the "coffee is good for your heart" studies that surfaced in the past decade. It used to be that coffee was clearly bad for cardiovascular health then with the rise of Starbucks and global markets it became huge business and suddenly studies making ridiculous claims (like "10 cups of coffee a day is fine, science says") started to appear. I can't see how something that unnaturally raises your adrenaline, cortisol and blood pressure (on daily basis for most) can be that great for your heart. Finally, most people drink coffee on empty stomach, something that can easily lead to ulcers or even worse. Caffeine irritates it and high acid doesn't help either (reason why we add milk to coffee - it neutralises the acid) ... I find the rise of the hipster coffee brands pushing highly acidic brewing and roasting methods problematic. But the fact is, nobody is telling you the full truth. Take top 1000 google results for coffee, it's 90% sellers, affiliates and journalists. People either make money from coffee or are addicted to it. I love coffee myself, but I don't believe none of the proclaimed benefits. I consider caffeine a stimulant ... it's good to stay off it and use it's power selectively ... at the right time for the right kind if work, not mindlessly every morning. Finally, I appreciate the cultural aspect ... like hanging out in Viennese style cafe, read something or engage in 'stimulating' conversations.
- pillefitz 7y agoI always daydreamed about roasting and selling coffee online as some kind of side-hustle. Would you mind commenting a bit about your daily life, the amount of time spent / money earned? My oven roasts were quite tasty so far, and I'm not sure what's hindering me from scaling up..
- michalu 7y agoI'm happy to share everything, but short on time to write everything down ... if you like drop me an email on hello () quantitup.com with your Telegram or whatsapp profile or similar where I can send a voice message
- blackrock 7y agoThen smoke some weed, or eat some ‘shrooms with your latte. That seems to randomize and reorganize your brain cells, that you start to think of weird things that you would’ve never thought of otherwise.
- jeyraof 7y agoCaffeine accumulate tiredness continuously. It booms after something small leak happened. It is not "boost" problem solving, but "carry on" from future.
- ozguroz 7y agoTIL , use caffeine to solve the problems and weeds to create new ones :)